NWWC 2018 Suggestions

[Rikkert]

I think it'd be best to do 2 FRA servers, 1 NL, 1 GER.

German servers are of shit quality and besides this all would be a fuck fest between people bitching about servers, The French want the French servers and the Germans the German server etc..
Just make it that you have good French servers which are frequently reset so that no performance issues occur, in terms of the Dutch servers I suppose that is a middle ground never felt any major difference playing on those compared to the French ones

Exactly, having multiple servers will only cause shit tons of whining, shittalking and other cancer about the servers. Settle with one group of solid servers. Which one that is is up to the organizers.

[Herishey]

I think it'd be best to do 2 FRA servers, 1 NL, 1 GER.

German servers are of shit quality and besides this all would be a fuck fest between people bitching about servers, The French want the French servers and the Germans the German server etc..
Just make it that you have good French servers which are frequently reset so that no performance issues occur, in terms of the Dutch servers I suppose that is a middle ground never felt any major difference playing on those compared to the French ones

Exactly, having multiple servers will only cause shit tons of whining, shittalking and other cancer about the servers. Settle with one group of solid servers. Which one that is is up to the organizers.

It's what we've always done, I'd just add a rule to make it if both teams don't agree on a server that is available they by default have to play on a French one.

[pieter]

I think it'd be best to do 2 FRA servers, 1 NL, 1 GER.

German servers are of shit quality and besides this all would be a fuck fest between people bitching about servers, The French want the French servers and the Germans the German server etc..
Just make it that you have good French servers which are frequently reset so that no performance issues occur, in terms of the Dutch servers I suppose that is a middle ground never felt any major difference playing on those compared to the French ones

Exactly, having multiple servers will only cause shit tons of whining, shittalking and other cancer about the servers. Settle with one group of solid servers. Which one that is is up to the organizers.

It's what we've always done, I'd just add a rule to make it if both teams don't agree on a server that is available they by default have to play on a French one.

Okay so everyone ends up playing on the French server

[Rikkert]

I think it'd be best to do 2 FRA servers, 1 NL, 1 GER.

German servers are of shit quality and besides this all would be a fuck fest between people bitching about servers, The French want the French servers and the Germans the German server etc..
Just make it that you have good French servers which are frequently reset so that no performance issues occur, in terms of the Dutch servers I suppose that is a middle ground never felt any major difference playing on those compared to the French ones

Exactly, having multiple servers will only cause shit tons of whining, shittalking and other cancer about the servers. Settle with one group of solid servers. Which one that is is up to the organizers.

It's what we've always done, I'd just add a rule to make it if both teams don't agree on a server that is available they by default have to play on a French one.

Ehh, that rule would fix much. French, Dutch and UK teams could just never agree with the other team, so that they always get a French server by default, which they obviously prefer.

[Herishey]

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I think it'd be best to do 2 FRA servers, 1 NL, 1 GER.

German servers are of shit quality and besides this all would be a fuck fest between people bitching about servers, The French want the French servers and the Germans the German server etc..
Just make it that you have good French servers which are frequently reset so that no performance issues occur, in terms of the Dutch servers I suppose that is a middle ground never felt any major difference playing on those compared to the French ones

Exactly, having multiple servers will only cause shit tons of whining, shittalking and other cancer about the servers. Settle with one group of solid servers. Which one that is is up to the organizers.

It's what we've always done, I'd just add a rule to make it if both teams don't agree on a server that is available they by default have to play on a French one.

Okay so everyone ends up playing on the French server

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Not if both French servers are in use. 

Also I doubt Norway v NL is going to pick France over NL, for example.

[pieter]

Spoiler

I think it'd be best to do 2 FRA servers, 1 NL, 1 GER.

German servers are of shit quality and besides this all would be a fuck fest between people bitching about servers, The French want the French servers and the Germans the German server etc..
Just make it that you have good French servers which are frequently reset so that no performance issues occur, in terms of the Dutch servers I suppose that is a middle ground never felt any major difference playing on those compared to the French ones

Exactly, having multiple servers will only cause shit tons of whining, shittalking and other cancer about the servers. Settle with one group of solid servers. Which one that is is up to the organizers.

It's what we've always done, I'd just add a rule to make it if both teams don't agree on a server that is available they by default have to play on a French one.

Okay so everyone ends up playing on the French server

[close]

Not if both French servers are in use. 

Also I doubt Norway v NL is going to pick France over NL, for example.

Yea that is eventually the bloody issue then is it not instead of everyone being able to play on decent servers from the French, you end up getting fucked in your arse and play on a server you probably didn't want to play in the first place

[AlekoTheGreek]

The difference between a server in Frankfurt, a server in Paris and a server somewhere in Benelux is negligible as long as it is of good quality.

From personal experience, playing from Athens, my ping hardly changes at all in any western European server, including those located in London.
AS LONG as the server is high quality. You should be fine.
I have seen everything from 50 to 90 ping all in Paris hosted servers for example. On bad servers

[Rikkert]

Spoiler

I think it'd be best to do 2 FRA servers, 1 NL, 1 GER.

German servers are of shit quality and besides this all would be a fuck fest between people bitching about servers, The French want the French servers and the Germans the German server etc..
Just make it that you have good French servers which are frequently reset so that no performance issues occur, in terms of the Dutch servers I suppose that is a middle ground never felt any major difference playing on those compared to the French ones

Exactly, having multiple servers will only cause shit tons of whining, shittalking and other cancer about the servers. Settle with one group of solid servers. Which one that is is up to the organizers.

It's what we've always done, I'd just add a rule to make it if both teams don't agree on a server that is available they by default have to play on a French one.

Okay so everyone ends up playing on the French server

[close]

Not if both French servers are in use. 

Also I doubt Norway v NL is going to pick France over NL, for example.

Ofcourse, but that is not where the problem lies. German servers could make a significant difference in a FRA vs CZSK match for example. And that is where France could abuse that rule (not that im saying that they 100% would, but lets be honest)

[Lone]

I suggest Fungus being unbanned on fse.

[Rommel]

The same discussions every season...

[Herishey]

Spoiler

I think it'd be best to do 2 FRA servers, 1 NL, 1 GER.

German servers are of shit quality and besides this all would be a fuck fest between people bitching about servers, The French want the French servers and the Germans the German server etc..
Just make it that you have good French servers which are frequently reset so that no performance issues occur, in terms of the Dutch servers I suppose that is a middle ground never felt any major difference playing on those compared to the French ones

Exactly, having multiple servers will only cause shit tons of whining, shittalking and other cancer about the servers. Settle with one group of solid servers. Which one that is is up to the organizers.

It's what we've always done, I'd just add a rule to make it if both teams don't agree on a server that is available they by default have to play on a French one.

Okay so everyone ends up playing on the French server

[close]

Not if both French servers are in use. 

Also I doubt Norway v NL is going to pick France over NL, for example.

Ofcourse, but that is not where the problem lies. German servers could make a significant difference in a FRA vs CZSK match for example. And that is where France could abuse that rule (not that im saying that they 100% would, but lets be honest)

It's not hard to make a rule that works around that, both teams have to agree on a server, if both teams disagree they have to play on a server that is neither team's 'home' server. E.g. GER v FRA, if neither side agree then they play on NL.

[pieter]

The same discussions every season...

Because it never gets properly resolved every bloody season it's the same because eventually it does happen we have shitty servers outside of France and then the people complain about that again.

For once just accept you ain't gonna have a ping advantage regardless but atleast have a server which has the overall quality so that for everyone atleast the performance is good.

[Rikkert]

Spoiler

I think it'd be best to do 2 FRA servers, 1 NL, 1 GER.

German servers are of shit quality and besides this all would be a fuck fest between people bitching about servers, The French want the French servers and the Germans the German server etc..
Just make it that you have good French servers which are frequently reset so that no performance issues occur, in terms of the Dutch servers I suppose that is a middle ground never felt any major difference playing on those compared to the French ones

Exactly, having multiple servers will only cause shit tons of whining, shittalking and other cancer about the servers. Settle with one group of solid servers. Which one that is is up to the organizers.

It's what we've always done, I'd just add a rule to make it if both teams don't agree on a server that is available they by default have to play on a French one.

Okay so everyone ends up playing on the French server

[close]

Not if both French servers are in use. 

Also I doubt Norway v NL is going to pick France over NL, for example.

Ofcourse, but that is not where the problem lies. German servers could make a significant difference in a FRA vs CZSK match for example. And that is where France could abuse that rule (not that im saying that they 100% would, but lets be honest)

It's not hard to make a rule that works around that, both teams have to agree on a server, if both teams disagree they have to play on a server that is neither team's 'home' server. E.g. GER v FRA, if neither side agree then they play on NL.

Hmm, I think that could still have the same problem, but at least to a lesser degree. Still,  I believe you guys can make it work. Whatever the eventual decision, its nice to see that people can still have a civil discussion on this forum from time to time.

[Herishey]

Spoiler

Spoiler

I think it'd be best to do 2 FRA servers, 1 NL, 1 GER.

German servers are of shit quality and besides this all would be a fuck fest between people bitching about servers, The French want the French servers and the Germans the German server etc..
Just make it that you have good French servers which are frequently reset so that no performance issues occur, in terms of the Dutch servers I suppose that is a middle ground never felt any major difference playing on those compared to the French ones

Exactly, having multiple servers will only cause shit tons of whining, shittalking and other cancer about the servers. Settle with one group of solid servers. Which one that is is up to the organizers.

It's what we've always done, I'd just add a rule to make it if both teams don't agree on a server that is available they by default have to play on a French one.

Okay so everyone ends up playing on the French server

[close]

Not if both French servers are in use. 

Also I doubt Norway v NL is going to pick France over NL, for example.

Ofcourse, but that is not where the problem lies. German servers could make a significant difference in a FRA vs CZSK match for example. And that is where France could abuse that rule (not that im saying that they 100% would, but lets be honest)

It's not hard to make a rule that works around that, both teams have to agree on a server, if both teams disagree they have to play on a server that is neither team's 'home' server. E.g. GER v FRA, if neither side agree then they play on NL.

Hmm, I think that could still have the same problem, but at least to a lesser degree. Still,  I believe you guys can make it work. Whatever the eventual decision, its nice to see that people can still have a civil discussion on this forum from time to time.

[close]

It could still be abused to some extent, but not to the extent of FRA v GER, GER being forced to play on a FRA server.

[Rommel]

The same discussions every season...

Because it never gets properly resolved every bloody season it's the same because eventually it does happen we have shitty servers outside of France and then the people complain about that again.

For once just accept you ain't gonna have a ping advantage regardless but atleast have a server which has the overall quality so that for everyone atleast the performance is good.

last season all servers we used were in france.