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Victims of Soviet deportations of 1939-40 from occupied Poland had been processed by NKVD and sent to concentration camps, labour camps or penal exile in Siberia.The Nazi-Soviet pact of August 1939 effectively ended on 22 June 1941 when the Wehrmacht invaded the USSR. The consequent release of the many thousands of Poles from the Soviet Gulags allowed for the formation of a Polish Army on Soviet soil[5][6] following the signing of the Polish-Russian Military Agreement on August 14, 1941. The first commander, General Michał Tokarzewski, began the task of forming this army in the Soviet town of Totskoye on August 17. The commander chosen by General Władysław Sikorski to ultimately lead the new army, General Władysław Anders, had been just released from the Lubyanka prison in Moscow, on August 4, and did not issue his first orders or announce his appointment as commander until August 22.
This army would grow over the following two years and provide the bulk of the units and troops of the Polish II Corps.
The Polish II Corps was created in 1943 from various units fighting alongside the Allies in all theatres of war. The 3rd Carpathian Division was formed in the Middle East from smaller Polish units fighting in Egypt and Tobruk, as well as the Polish Army in the East that was evacuated from the USSR through the Persian Corridor. Its creation was based on British Army Act of 1940 that allowed the allied units of the exiled government of Poland to be grouped on one theatre of war. However, the British command never agreed to incorporate the exiled Polish Air Force into the Corps. In 1944 the Corps was transferred from Egypt to Italy, where it became an independent part of the British Eighth Army under General Oliver Leese. During 1944-1945 the Corps fought with distinction in the Italian campaign, most notably during the fourth and final Battle of Monte Cassino, the Battle of Ancona during Operation Olive (the fighting on the Gothic Line in September 1944) and the Battle of Bologna during the Allies' final offensive in Italy in March 1945.
In 1944 it numbered about 50,000 soldiers. During the three subsequent battles the Corps suffered heavy losses (in the final stage of the Battle of Monte Cassino even the support units were mobilised and used in combat) and it was suggested to Gen. Anders that he withdraw his units. However, since the Soviet Union broke diplomatic relations with the Polish government and no Poles were allowed out of the USSR, Anders believed that the only source of recruits was ahead - in German POW camps and concentration camps.
By 1945 new units were added composed mostly from freed POWs and Poles forced to join the Wehrmacht, increasing the amount of soldiers to approximately 75,000; approximately 20,000 of them were transferred to other Polish units fighting in the West. After the war the divisions of the Corps were used in Italy until 1946, when they were transported to Britain and demobilised. The total establishment of the Polish Second Corps in 1946 was 103,000. The majority of soldiers remained in exile and settled in Britain. The Corps had a consistently high fighting reputation and was well-regarded by the American and Commonwealth troops they fought alongside.

Composition

In May 1945 the Corps consisted of 55,780 men and approximately 1,500 women from auxiliary services. There was also one bear, named Wojtek. The majority of the forces were composed mostly of Polish citizens who were deported by the NKVD to the Soviet Gulags during the annexation of Eastern Poland (Kresy Wschodnie) in 1939 by the Soviet Union. Following the Operation Barbarossa and the Sikorski-Mayski Agreement many of them were released and allowed to join the Polish Armed Forces in the East being formed in Southern Russia and Kazakhstan. Due to political reasons the Soviet Union soon withdrew support for the creation of a Polish Army on its territory and lowered the supply rate, which forced General Władysław Anders to withdraw his troops to British-held Persia and Iraq. From there the troops were moved to British Mandate of Palestine, where they joined forces with the 3rd Carpathian Division which was composed mostly of Polish soldiers who had managed to escape to French Lebanon through Romania and Hungary after the Polish Defensive War of 1939.
The main bulk of the soldiers were from the eastern voivodeships of pre-war Poland. Although the majority of them were ethnic Poles, there were also members of other nationalities who joined the units of II Corps, most notably Jews, Belarusians and Ukrainians. After being relocated to Palestine, where there was little for the enlisted men to do, many Jewish soldiers of the corps "unofficially" discharged themselves by simply fading into the countryside. Menachem Begin, however, though encouraged to desert by friends of his, refused to remove the uniform until he was officially discharged from the army.


A Polish soldier Master Corporal Emil Czech plays the Hejnał Mariacki in the Monte Cassino monastery ruins.
The armament was as follows:
248 pieces of artillery
288 anti-tank guns
234 anti-aircraft guns
264 tanks
1,241 APCs
440 armoured cars
12,064 cars, Bren carriers and trucks
1 Syrian brown bear Wojtek (soldier bear)

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Re: Polish 2nd Corps
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2013, 01:27:19 pm »
Not again....

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Re: Polish 2nd Corps
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2013, 01:37:53 pm »
Not again....

Just put your head in the dirt you Ostrich.   ;)
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Re: Polish 2nd Corps
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2013, 01:46:47 pm »
What is this exactly?  :-\

No offense, I just don't see what this is about.  ???

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Re: Polish 2nd Corps
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2013, 01:46:57 pm »
1 Syrian brown bear Wojtek (soldier bear)
YAY GO WOTJEK!

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Re: Polish 2nd Corps
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2013, 02:36:16 pm »
1 Syrian brown bear Wojtek (soldier bear)
YAY GO WOTJEK!

Haha!, My name is Wojtek.

What is this exactly?  :-\

No offense, I just don't see what this is about.  ???

Its Information about my Granddad's (May he Rest.In.Peace) Regiment during the Second World War.

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Re: Polish 2nd Corps (My Granddad's Regiment he was in, may he R.I.P)
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2013, 02:50:44 pm »
Ah okay. Just wondering why.   :D

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Re: Polish 2nd Corps (My Granddad's Regiment he was in, may he R.I.P)
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2013, 03:05:34 pm »
Ah okay. Just wondering why.   :D

Okay then  :)

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Re: Polish 2nd Corps (My Granddad's Regiment he was in, may he R.I.P)
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2013, 05:38:59 pm »
Well I ve a book about Monte Cassino, the biggest battle of that corp. And imo more interesting would be thread about that battle where Karpacka and Kresowa opened a road to Rome =]
^.^


About this battle, before first polish assault, Allies, prepared great cannonade.



Thats even funny that some nazis, were going to new positions when more than 1000 cannons started to shoot at them. They send them in great style to St.Peter.



Anyway, after war, soldiers of 2nd corp had to start new live...For most of them that was, hard, cuz allies forgot about them. Polish general who closed 7th German army in Falais(Mont Ormel),  captured the Breda city without losses in the civilian population also Wilhelmshaven(Kriegsmarine base) after war worked as a bartender.


Sosabowski another polish General, become a enemy of UK stuff after, Market Garden, and argue with Montgomery and his generals, when polish gen was pretty sure, that allies can still win that battle if they use more 30thCorp soldiers with his own 1SBS. Anyway, he lost about 40% of his men (bloody covering the retreat)- after war storeman
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Re: Polish 2nd Corps (My Granddad's Regiment he was in, may he R.I.P)
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2013, 12:47:07 am »
STAHP

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Re: Polish 2nd Corps (My Granddad's Regiment he was in, may he R.I.P)
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2013, 01:29:51 am »
Nice.  :)

My great grandparents were miners in Canada. 8) The other ones, I have no clue.   :'(

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Re: Polish 2nd Corps (My Granddad's Regiment he was in, may he R.I.P)
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2013, 08:41:10 am »
Urgh, at least show some sense and remove the footnotes that is evidence that you simply copied it all from wikipedia.

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Re: Polish 2nd Corps (My Granddad's Regiment he was in, may he R.I.P)
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2013, 08:50:30 pm »
Urgh, at least show some sense and remove the footnotes that is evidence that you simply copied it all from wikipedia.

What footnotes?   :D

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Re: Polish 2nd Corps (My Granddad's Regiment he was in, may he R.I.P)
« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2013, 08:58:20 pm »
Urgh, at least show some sense and remove the footnotes that is evidence that you simply copied it all from wikipedia.
What footnotes?   :D
The consequent release of the many thousands of Poles from the Soviet Gulags allowed for the formation of a Polish Army on Soviet soil[5][6]

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Re: Polish 2nd Corps (My Granddad's Regiment he was in, may he R.I.P)
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2013, 12:44:25 pm »

Anyway before we should discuss about this corp look at this picture
Then u can attack this topic, so fiercely if u still want.


Also about photos indeed u should find some...uhm...better ones...
Like for example this one

Monte Cassino, now. Poppies bloomed when polish forces stormed.

Polish soldiers.




Also, before Monte Cassino, when polish soldiers knew that they ll be next, and what happend with elite UKs, French etc. regiments, listened german radio where "Wanda" or another Volksdeutsh  repeated that every polish soldier, who surrender will be free to come back to country. Noone did it.


So, II corp is one of the polish units which fought against Germans. If Hitler would attacked the hell, polish soldiers would fight side by side with devils I guess. Germans fought against, UK so in Italy and Africa II corp fought with great bravery. In fact polish soldiers fought in Russia(Lenino), Germany(Berlin), France(in 1940 and 44), Belgium(44) etc.