Poll

Are the "Oldest Pyramids of the world" that were found in Crimea, the real reason for the War?

Yes! Putin only took Crimea because of the alien pyramids.
13 (61.9%)
Yes! I don't believe that the pyramids were made by aliens, but I do believe that Russia took Crimea because of the incredible cultural treasures hidden inside them.
8 (38.1%)

Total Members Voted: 21

Author Topic: Ukraine  (Read 367471 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline MaxLam

  • Colonel
  • *
  • Posts: 1343
  • Founder of Minisiege, EU_Commander & Mininaval
    • View Profile
    • Napoleonic Wars Public
  • Side: Neutral
Re: Ukraine
« Reply #4545 on: April 09, 2015, 04:06:33 pm »
Quote from: Augy
Even the Revolutionary Insurrectionary Army of Ukraine?
That would be as if Germany recognized the Werwolf as an organization that fought for its independance.  ;D

Offline Suede

  • First Lieutenant
  • *
  • Posts: 210
    • View Profile
  • Side: Confederacy
Re: Ukraine
« Reply #4546 on: April 09, 2015, 04:06:57 pm »
Even the Revolutionary Insurrectionary Army of Ukraine?
There is some Insurrectionary Army of Ukraine in the list, probably it is them.
Also, point e) relates to:
e) insurgency, guerrilla groups that operated in Ukraine in 1917-1930 years and the aim of which was a struggle for obtaining, protection or restoration of independence of Ukraine, including groups of Kholodny Yar, Medvynska Republics, Volyn rebel army;

Offline Suede

  • First Lieutenant
  • *
  • Posts: 210
    • View Profile
  • Side: Confederacy
Re: Ukraine
« Reply #4547 on: April 09, 2015, 04:08:15 pm »
MaxLam, he meant Nestor Makno's army, not that


Offline MaxLam

  • Colonel
  • *
  • Posts: 1343
  • Founder of Minisiege, EU_Commander & Mininaval
    • View Profile
    • Napoleonic Wars Public
  • Side: Neutral
Re: Ukraine
« Reply #4548 on: April 09, 2015, 04:10:08 pm »
What? Makhno fought for the independance of Ukraine?

Offline Augy

  • Major General
  • **
  • Posts: 2970
  • Anarchist. Absurdist. Existentialist. Man. Human.
    • View Profile
    • The Royal Recruits
  • Nick: -[TRR]- Cpt. Augy
  • Side: Neutral
Re: Ukraine
« Reply #4549 on: April 09, 2015, 04:15:03 pm »
The most independent and free ukraine you could ever imagine.
“Ego is a structure that is erected by a neurotic individual who is a member of a neurotic culture against the facts of the matter. And culture, which we put on like an overcoat, is the collectivized consensus about what sort of neurotic behaviors are acceptable.” -Terence McKenna

Offline Duuring

  • Duuring
  • ***
  • Posts: 12357
  • Free at last
    • View Profile
  • Side: Neutral
Re: Ukraine
« Reply #4550 on: April 09, 2015, 04:47:35 pm »
While fighting the states that modern Ukraine sees as its predecessors. Didn't it mostly consist of Russian Anarchists who had fled/emigrated from the increasingly hostile communist Russia anyway?

Offline Turin Turambar

  • Major General
  • **
  • Posts: 3738
    • View Profile
  • Side: Confederacy
Re: Ukraine
« Reply #4551 on: April 09, 2015, 05:11:32 pm »
Today Parliament voted for a law about recognizing organizations that fought for the independence of Ukraine in the twentieth century.

All the people, who were fighting for independence in the military, paramilitary or political organizations, or their struggle were individually, recognized as fighters for independence of Ukraine.

The law provides recognition of organizations such as the Union for the Liberation of Ukraine, Ukrainian Sich Riflemen, UNR, Hetmanate, ZUNR, Ukrainian guerrilla and rebel groups in 1917-1930, Carpathian Sich, UPA, OUN, Sojm of the Carpathian Ukraine, Ukrainian Helsinki Group and so on.

That is very delightful to hear.
des is apsichtdliche Browokazion etzala ferstest du

Offline Duuring

  • Duuring
  • ***
  • Posts: 12357
  • Free at last
    • View Profile
  • Side: Neutral
Re: Ukraine
« Reply #4552 on: April 09, 2015, 09:59:47 pm »

Offline MaxLam

  • Colonel
  • *
  • Posts: 1343
  • Founder of Minisiege, EU_Commander & Mininaval
    • View Profile
    • Napoleonic Wars Public
  • Side: Neutral
Re: Ukraine
« Reply #4553 on: April 09, 2015, 10:18:13 pm »
Wow they guy is saying that Marxist.com "[echoes] the Kremlin’s anti-Ukrainian propaganda"... LMAO, this is a trotskyite website from a well-known trotskyite movement which has member organizations in many countries. This proves in itself the author's complete lack of political culture. I don't know who finances this website, but that's certainly not the Kremlin.

He says that according to Marxism some national movements were objectively progressive ("a capitalist national state provided a better context for development than the old empire" ) and concludes that "these factors should play a similar role today". A ridiculous assumption for there is two things: factors and context. And if the context isn't the same it's obvious that the factors won't play a similar role. Dialectics my friends... Even a child should understand that. Marx must be turning in his grave. ;D
« Last Edit: April 09, 2015, 10:19:46 pm by MaxLam »

Offline Colonel Howe

  • Donator
  • *
  • Posts: 5494
  • There isn't a noose tight enough
    • View Profile
    • People's History Podcast
  • Nick: Noah
  • Side: Neutral
Re: Ukraine
« Reply #4554 on: April 10, 2015, 03:29:58 am »
Ukraine sucks
The Kremlin sucks
Both sides of the political spectrum have double standards

And frankly, the nationalistic drive on both sides in which they call the other the enemy of whatever have you is a sickening repeat

I'm curious to know how many more young men and women will have to die until "democracy" is safe for the world
Fuck off, Nazi scum

Offline Duuring

  • Duuring
  • ***
  • Posts: 12357
  • Free at last
    • View Profile
  • Side: Neutral
Re: Ukraine
« Reply #4555 on: April 10, 2015, 07:37:38 am »
How about... All of them?

Offline Augy

  • Major General
  • **
  • Posts: 2970
  • Anarchist. Absurdist. Existentialist. Man. Human.
    • View Profile
    • The Royal Recruits
  • Nick: -[TRR]- Cpt. Augy
  • Side: Neutral
Re: Ukraine
« Reply #4556 on: April 10, 2015, 11:42:02 am »
“Ego is a structure that is erected by a neurotic individual who is a member of a neurotic culture against the facts of the matter. And culture, which we put on like an overcoat, is the collectivized consensus about what sort of neurotic behaviors are acceptable.” -Terence McKenna

Offline Furrnox

  • Lieutenant General
  • ***
  • Posts: 7984
  • Eternally incorrect, centre-left, asshole.
    • View Profile
  • Side: Neutral
Re: Ukraine
« Reply #4557 on: April 10, 2015, 12:43:07 pm »

Offline Augy

  • Major General
  • **
  • Posts: 2970
  • Anarchist. Absurdist. Existentialist. Man. Human.
    • View Profile
    • The Royal Recruits
  • Nick: -[TRR]- Cpt. Augy
  • Side: Neutral
Re: Ukraine
« Reply #4558 on: April 10, 2015, 01:57:12 pm »


Before that you have to call in the Kindergarten opolcheni
Spoiler
[close]
“Ego is a structure that is erected by a neurotic individual who is a member of a neurotic culture against the facts of the matter. And culture, which we put on like an overcoat, is the collectivized consensus about what sort of neurotic behaviors are acceptable.” -Terence McKenna

Offline Nipplestockings

  • Lieutenant General
  • ***
  • Posts: 8609
    • View Profile
  • Side: Neutral
Re: Ukraine
« Reply #4559 on: April 10, 2015, 02:01:51 pm »
That kid with the helmet and AT grenade looks smug as fuck. Lil' niggas ready to bust some filthy Ukie ass fo sho