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Title: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Shadow on June 22, 2019, 09:40:17 pm
I will give this till 12 am central US on the 26th before i lock in who can run and put up the thread for people to vote in.

Troll apps will not be added, and you must answer all of the questions in the app. Consider this your warning.  I'll try and update the op daily, other mods can update it as well.  Check the stickied threads for help.

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[b]Name:[/b] 
[b]EU or NA?:[/b]
[b]Are you aware that the position of Community Representative is one of trust and confidence, and do you understand you can be punished for breaking that trust?:[/b]
[b]Why should you become CR?:[/b]
[b]What are one or two things you commit to doing as CR this term?[/b]

EU:
Blaze
Spoiler
Name: Blaze
EU or NA?: EU
Are you aware that the position of Community Representative is one of trust and confidence, and do you understand you can be punished for breaking that trust?: Yes
Why should you become CR?: Well, there are a number of reasons on why I want to become a Community Representative.

My first point, which is also my biggest point is to ensure that the members of the forum are getting what they want and that their suggestions and concerns are being acknowledged and are being dealt with, I feel like this is something which really does need some attention, because on multiple occasions I have had various conversations with members from the community regarding great suggestions that they had and how they were not being heard, I want to be the voice for the people I want their messages to be heard by the staff team of this forum.

How would I achieve this? I would become that “Middle-Man” between members of the community and the higher up staff members who make decisions here on the FSE Forums, I would ensure that everything gets passed onto them whether the idea is out of this world! Or a very good idea, I would not be biased to anyone / any side of the community, I would voice both the competitive side and the general side of the community to ensure that everyone gets heard.

My second reason is that I wish to try and gain a new influx of people by trying to create new fun, unique things (new sub-boards and such) that will intrigue old and possibly new members of the community to get engaged with.
Another thing I’d like to achieve is to reduce the amount of toxicity on the forum, in general the community is great but individuals/groups of people are creating scenes and drama which shouldn't tear the community apart which is something I think should be looked into and regarded, which is something I promise to do.

How would I achieve this? I would look into implementing new sub-boards and things of a sort in order to catch more people's attention, one main idea I had was a Give-Away sub-board, now to some this could sound lame however I personally have never seen it done a forums before this board would allow members of the community would be able to do giveaways however to avoid people making multiple accounts and such, certain restrictions would be put into place, for example, you must reach a certain rank or number of hours in order to see the forum. (Of-course this is just an idea.)
I would also assist the current moderation team in enforcing the forums rules, to try and cut down on toxicity and such.

My third reason for me wanting to become a Community Representative is that I have been playing the game for 5 years, I have been on FSE lurking for around 3 years (I had an account beforehand but lost the details) in my time of being here, I have met some wonderful people who have made my experience of this game amazing, some other people who haven't had the best experiences with me, but I say let bygones be bygones I wish to become more engaged with this community and I wish to be a person where people can come to me, to get their opinions expressed and have a very high chance of a definite answer back because I feel that the members of the forum should be heard and that both sides of the forum staff and members should be more engaged into one another.

How would I achieve this? Well, the main way I would achieve this, I would encourage members of the community that want to have their opinions voices or even just want to have a general chat that my forum pms, my steam, and discord are always open for anyone to pop me a message, I love communicating with the community and engaging with them as much as possible making not only their experience but my experience better and creating that better more positive atmosphere.

My fourth and last point, for me wanting to become CR is to again as said above tackle problems on the forums, such as the dying and or dead sub-boards, that either need reviving or revamping in order to gain the community's attention again.

How would I achieve this? The first thing I would do to achieve this is I would do extensive research into the current sub-boards of the forum and see the levels of activity in a certain period of months, after that I would place my suggestions forward to the staff team whether the board wasn’t worth keeping, or whether it was, if the case is that it was worth to keep it I would try and brainstorm ideas as well as take ideas from the community in order to revamp it.

What are one or two things you commit to doing as CR this term? - My first and second points.

In addition to all this
Although I am not as involved in the competitive side of the community and never have been, as previously seen by some great CR candidates (Herishey) he was able to focus his attention a lot into the competitive side of the community (since that is what the forum is majorly built up of) I am willing to give it a go and try and whip up some projects for the competitive side of the community however, doing this alone would be difficult thats why I would need the contributions from the community to come forward with ideas so that these may be looked into further and possibly developed into something bigger.

Thank you for reading and considering me to be your EU Community Representative.
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NA:
Stroke0fd34th
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Name:Godfreid
EU or NA?: NA
Are you aware that the position of Community Representative is one of trust and confidence, and do you understand you can be punished for breaking that trust?: Ye
Why should you become CR?: I've been apart of the community for a long time, I'm very familiar with the various personalities within the community and the issues facing it.
What are one or two things you commit to doing as CR this term?  Promoting/Stimulating competitive and public events, and continuing to encourage crossover between the two
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TheJollyCanadian
Spoiler
Name: TheJollyCanadian
EU or NA?: NA
Are you aware that the position of Community Representative is one of trust and confidence, and do you understand you can be punished for breaking that trust?: Yes
Why should you become CR?: I helped Windflower through his past terms almost acting as a co-CR or what have you, by Being very active on the forums and bringing new suggestions and helping in anyway he saw fit. I am well informed about the community the competitive side(with my past experience in hosting tournaments, helping run the 4v4 league and currently as a ref for NANWL) Casual events side(being a past admin/host for events although I currently have stepped away from that) and in public players side(Those who play on BBG botsurvival or anyother BBG server. and will use this community to my advantage when looking to gain new players).
I also believe I am well liked within the community making it easier to work with others and will be very open to all suggestions from everyone to better this community.
What are one or two things you commit to doing as CR this term? This Term I'd like to make CR less of a one man show and look into electing a Co-CR or a community manager, taking the idea from Dan the man. This would allow for more communication between the community and CR team(if the Co-CR or community manager were to use their connections which the CR may not have) to better the community as a whole.

I will also be continuing Tired's legacy in the BBG community by hosting more events with the BBG community in attempt to gather interest and potentially have the public players of NW(Those who do not go on FSE or join regiements but make a large number of the Player base.) join our side of the community in regiments and also in tournaments. Doing this as well as encouraging more noob friendly Tournaments(like the amateur duel tournament that I hosted) do encourage them to join the more competitive side of NW.
Even if I am not elected as the NA CR I will still be going about this plan and will be more than happy to work alongside whom ever is chosen. If you have any suggestions for events or would be interested in helping going about this just message me on steam.
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Forgotfulking
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Name: Lady Alicia Moraine
EU or NA?: NA
Are you aware that the position of Community Representative is one of trust and confidence, and do you understand you can be punished for breaking that trust?: Yes
Why should you become CR?: My experience with administrative work and organizing which I feel is imperative for anyone who holds the CR Role. I'm much more known in casual and the competitive community. I've run events and tournaments in both and am fairly active on the forums which also will need to be moderated. I believe i'm the best candidate due to my perseverance and my never give up attitude.
What are one or two things you commit to doing as CR this term: Reorganizing and promoting Casual events which of recent have seen a drop in standards and adminship due to 2ndhan departure. My second would be to focus on the competitive community I've been considering doing a Regimental Groupfighting League but may scale it down to a 5v5 league or even maybe 8v8 both to give competitive the jump it needs to be more active and something for the competitive people to be excited about. Also keeping BOB's supremacy of the groupfighting servers would also be one of my priority's.
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Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Blaze on June 22, 2019, 09:58:41 pm
Name: Blaze
EU or NA?: EU
Are you aware that the position of Community Representative is one of trust and confidence, and do you understand you can be punished for breaking that trust?: Yes
Why should you become CR?: Well, there are a number of reasons on why I want to become a Community Representative.

My first point, which is also my biggest point is to ensure that the members of the forum are getting what they want and that their suggestions and concerns are being acknowledged and are being dealt with, I feel like this is something which really does need some attention, because on multiple occasions I have had various conversations with members from the community regarding great suggestions that they had and how they were not being heard, I want to be the voice for the people I want their messages to be heard by the staff team of this forum.

How would I achieve this? I would become that “Middle-Man” between members of the community and the higher up staff members who make decisions here on the FSE Forums, I would ensure that everything gets passed onto them whether the idea is out of this world! Or a very good idea, I would not be biased to anyone / any side of the community, I would voice both the competitive side and the general side of the community to ensure that everyone gets heard.

My second reason is that I wish to try and gain a new influx of people by trying to create new fun, unique things (new sub-boards and such) that will intrigue old and possibly new members of the community to get engaged with.
Another thing I’d like to achieve is to reduce the amount of toxicity on the forum, in general the community is great but individuals/groups of people are creating scenes and drama which shouldn't tear the community apart which is something I think should be looked into and regarded, which is something I promise to do.

How would I achieve this? I would look into implementing new sub-boards and things of a sort in order to catch more people's attention, one main idea I had was a Give-Away sub-board, now to some this could sound lame however I personally have never seen it done a forums before this board would allow members of the community would be able to do giveaways however to avoid people making multiple accounts and such, certain restrictions would be put into place, for example, you must reach a certain rank or number of hours in order to see the forum. (Of-course this is just an idea.)
I would also assist the current moderation team in enforcing the forums rules, to try and cut down on toxicity and such.

My third reason for me wanting to become a Community Representative is that I have been playing the game for 5 years, I have been on FSE lurking for around 3 years (I had an account beforehand but lost the details) in my time of being here, I have met some wonderful people who have made my experience of this game amazing, some other people who haven't had the best experiences with me, but I say let bygones be bygones I wish to become more engaged with this community and I wish to be a person where people can come to me, to get their opinions expressed and have a very high chance of a definite answer back because I feel that the members of the forum should be heard and that both sides of the forum staff and members should be more engaged into one another.

How would I achieve this? Well, the main way I would achieve this, I would encourage members of the community that want to have their opinions voices or even just want to have a general chat that my forum pms, my steam, and discord are always open for anyone to pop me a message, I love communicating with the community and engaging with them as much as possible making not only their experience but my experience better and creating that better more positive atmosphere.

My fourth and last point, for me wanting to become CR is to again as said above tackle problems on the forums, such as the dying and or dead sub-boards, that either need reviving or revamping in order to gain the community's attention again.

How would I achieve this? The first thing I would do to achieve this is I would do extensive research into the current sub-boards of the forum and see the levels of activity in a certain period of months, after that I would place my suggestions forward to the staff team whether the board wasn’t worth keeping, or whether it was, if the case is that it was worth to keep it I would try and brainstorm ideas as well as take ideas from the community in order to revamp it.

What are one or two things you commit to doing as CR this term? - My first and second points.

In addition to all this
Although I am not as involved in the competitive side of the community and never have been, as previously seen by some great CR candidates (Herishey) he was able to focus his attention a lot into the competitive side of the community (since that is what the forum is majorly built up of) I am willing to give it a go and try and whip up some projects for the competitive side of the community however, doing this alone would be difficult thats why I would need the contributions from the community to come forward with ideas so that these may be looked into further and possibly developed into something bigger.

Thank you for reading and considering me to be your EU Community Representative.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on June 22, 2019, 11:26:38 pm
Name: GlukTheWalrus
EU or NA?:  Both
Are you aware that the position of Community Representative is one of trust and confidence, and do you understand you can be punished for breaking that trust?: Yes
Why should you become CR?: Been a community activist for ages. 15thHvB boycott, 63e boycott, probably a few other boycotts. Promoted servers, ran events, hosted tournaments. Also I made this.
What are one or two things you commit to doing as CR this term? Prolonging our inevitable demise. Giving a voice to the community that hasn't been heard in a long time.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Herishey on June 23, 2019, 12:54:45 am
Good luck to whoever applies. Hopefully you can stay active.  ::)
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on June 23, 2019, 12:55:09 am
Good luck to whoever applies. Hopefully you can stay active.  ::)
Smh
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Windflower on June 23, 2019, 04:22:33 am
Good luck to whoever applies. Hopefully you can stay active.  ::)
Who ME?

I had a good run :[
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Stroke0fd34th on June 23, 2019, 05:31:10 am
Name:Godfreid
EU or NA?: NA
Are you aware that the position of Community Representative is one of trust and confidence, and do you understand you can be punished for breaking that trust?: Ye
Why should you become CR?: I've been apart of the community for a long time, I'm very familiar with the various personalities within the community and the issues facing it.
What are one or two things you commit to doing as CR this term?  Promoting/Stimulating competitive and public events, and continuing to encourage crossover between the two
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Superbad on June 23, 2019, 06:13:10 am
EU or NA?:  Both

Y-You're applying for both NA and EU CR?
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Thunderstormer on June 23, 2019, 08:15:13 am
EU or NA?:  Both

Y-You're applying for both NA and EU CR?
It wouldn't be allowed so the App is denied.  I also wouldn't consider them making "this" true either if they are referring to the CR program.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Unitater on June 23, 2019, 05:01:53 pm
Gl to all
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Furrnox on June 23, 2019, 05:04:17 pm
Name: Furrnox
EU or NA?: EU
Are you aware that the position of Community Representative is one of trust and confidence, and do you understand you can be punished for breaking that trust?: Sure

Why should you become CR?:
Do you believe this game is dying and there's nothing we can do about it?
Do you think CR is just an empty title worn by idiots?

Then you're in luck because I'm here to help, I promise too make absolutely zero changes just like
previous CRs and I'll even wear the title so you don't have too.

What are one or two things you commit to doing as CR this term?
Continuing the status quo.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Shadow on June 23, 2019, 07:00:35 pm
Spoiler
Name: Furrnox
EU or NA?: EU
Are you aware that the position of Community Representative is one of trust and confidence, and do you understand you can be punished for breaking that trust?: Sure

Why should you become CR?:
Do you believe this game is dying and there's nothing we can do about it?
Do you think CR is just an empty title worn by idiots?

Then you're in luck because I'm here to help, I promise too make absolutely zero changes just like
previous CRs and I'll even wear the title so you don't have too.

What are one or two things you commit to doing as CR this term?
Continuing the status quo.
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Denied.  See OP for more information.

Thank you.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Furrnox on June 23, 2019, 08:43:51 pm
Troll is subjective.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on June 23, 2019, 08:57:56 pm
Name: GlukTheWalrus
EU or NA?:  NA
Are you aware that the position of Community Representative is one of trust and confidence, and do you understand you can be punished for breaking that trust?: Yes
Why should you become CR?: Been a community activist for ages. 15thHvB boycott, 63e boycott, probably a few other boycotts. Promoted servers, ran events, hosted tournaments. Also, I made this.
What are one or two things you commit to doing as CR this term? Prolonging our inevitable demise. Giving a voice to the community that hasn't been heard in a long time.
EU or NA?:  Both

Y-You're applying for both NA and EU CR?
It wouldn't be allowed so the App is denied.  I also wouldn't consider them making "this" true either if they are referring to the CR program.
It was me and duuring. Can't remember who pitched the idea first but the first convo of CR and how it would work was between me and duuring, so fuck off. Me and duuring were pretty close friends for a while, almost went to the netherlands to hangout with him.

Edit: You're welcome to ask him if you like, if he even remembers. It's not a big deal, but I don't like being accused of lying.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on June 23, 2019, 09:46:12 pm
Most of the people on this forum are comp players, and what I've been saying for YEARS is that comp is only half of this community. The comp side has a tendency to keep with their own, semi-comp and casual regs tend to have a harder time gettin in with the people who run/attend comp events, like you. The problem with comp is that it doesn't draw too many new players to the game, casual does. As silly as this sounds, we STILL, in 2019 are getting new players to the community. What keeps these people around mostly is casual, not comp. What we need is to boost casual attendance, we need Paradox to put NW on sale again (if that's even possible), and we need to hold out long enough until BCoF comes out and then FINALLY we can put this community to rest.

Even tho godfreid is most likely going to win, I think he's too ingrained in the comp community to really even do anything with casual save for having his reg attend one once or twice a week.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Eamon on June 23, 2019, 09:58:56 pm
Most of the people on this forum are comp players, and what I've been saying for YEARS is that comp is only half of this community. The comp side has a tendency to keep with their own, semi-comp and casual regs tend to have a harder time gettin in with the people who run/attend comp events, like you. The problem with comp is that it doesn't draw too many new players to the game, casual does. As silly as this sounds, we STILL, in 2019 are getting new players to the community. What keeps these people around mostly is casual, not comp. What we need is to boost casual attendance, we need Paradox to put NW on sale again (if that's even possible), and we need to hold out long enough until BCoF comes out and then FINALLY we can put this community to rest.

Even tho godfreid is most likely going to win, I think he's too ingrained in the comp community to really even do anything with casual save for having his reg attend one once or twice a week.

Yeah Paradox put NW on sale plz
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: JollyCanadian on June 23, 2019, 10:39:12 pm
Name: TheJollyCanadian
EU or NA?: NA
Are you aware that the position of Community Representative is one of trust and confidence, and do you understand you can be punished for breaking that trust?: Yes
Why should you become CR?: I helped Windflower through his past terms almost acting as a co-CR or what have you, by Being very active on the forums and bringing new suggestions and helping in anyway he saw fit. I am well informed about the community the competitive side(with my past experience in hosting tournaments, helping run the 4v4 league and currently as a ref for NANWL) Casual events side(being a past admin/host for events although I currently have stepped away from that) and in public players side(Those who play on BBG botsurvival or anyother BBG server. and will use this community to my advantage when looking to gain new players).
I also believe I am well liked within the community making it easier to work with others and will be very open to all suggestions from everyone to better this community.
What are one or two things you commit to doing as CR this term? This Term I'd like to make CR less of a one man show and look into electing a Co-CR or a community manager, taking the idea from Dan the man. This would allow for more communication between the community and CR team(if the Co-CR or community manager were to use their connections which the CR may not have) to better the community as a whole.

I will also be continuing Tired's legacy in the BBG community by hosting more events with the BBG community in attempt to gather interest and potentially have the public players of NW(Those who do not go on FSE or join regiements but make a large number of the Player base.) join our side of the community in regiments and also in tournaments. Doing this as well as encouraging more noob friendly Tournaments(like the amateur duel tournament that I hosted) do encourage them to join the more competitive side of NW.
Even if I am not elected as the NA CR I will still be going about this plan and will be more than happy to work alongside whom ever is chosen. If you have any suggestions for events or would be interested in helping going about this just message me on steam.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Bidbig on June 23, 2019, 10:46:47 pm
For Amue as he has forgotten his password to FSE.

Name: Amue
EU or NA?: EU
Are you aware that the position of Community Representative is one of trust and confidence, and do you understand you can be punished for breaking that trust?: yes
Why should you become CR?: I think I am in a good position in this community to solve the problems that have arisen recently. NW has been quite lively lately and I would like to support that.
What are one or two things you commit to doing as CR this term?
I would like to deal with the toxicity on the forums and help out with both competitive and casual events.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: ManiacBullseye on June 23, 2019, 11:01:12 pm
Most of the people on this forum are comp players, and what I've been saying for YEARS is that comp is only half of this community. The comp side has a tendency to keep with their own, semi-comp and casual regs tend to have a harder time gettin in with the people who run/attend comp events, like you. The problem with comp is that it doesn't draw too many new players to the game, casual does. As silly as this sounds, we STILL, in 2019 are getting new players to the community. What keeps these people around mostly is casual, not comp. What we need is to boost casual attendance, we need Paradox to put NW on sale again (if that's even possible), and we need to hold out long enough until BCoF comes out and then FINALLY we can put this community to rest.

Even tho godfreid is most likely going to win, I think he's too ingrained in the comp community to really even do anything with casual save for having his reg attend one once or twice a week.

I second this. A CR coming from the LG, the epitome of "comp only people", wouldn't help the community at all. Jolly for president. "Make BotSurvival Great Again." Jolly supports bringing more kpop to NA regiments, so he's the obvious choice.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Thunderstormer on June 23, 2019, 11:02:32 pm

It was me and duuring. Can't remember who pitched the idea first but the first convo of CR and how it would work was between me and duuring, so fuck off. Me and duuring were pretty close friends for a while, almost went to the netherlands to hangout with him.

Edit: You're welcome to ask him if you like, if he even remembers. It's not a big deal, but I don't like being accused of lying.
IDC enough to bother him, and idc for your attitude.  We had a CR program before duuring was head mod.   The idea of it wasn't new.   Bringing it back, and making it the way it currently is was not just a you and duuring thing.(some similarities with the first CR program)  Many people were involved in bringing it back and many people were involved in making it the way it is.  If you want to say you helped bring it back and form how it is, that is fine but you didn't make it. The CR program has evolved over the years.  It isn't the same one we had when the 2nd version started.  I spent enough time talking about this so i will stop here. 

on another note. paradox does not publish warband anymore.  They were bought out years ago.(for the better imo)    Taleworlds gets to decide if they want the game to be on sale or not.  i would also assume there will be a steam summer sale coming up soon, as they tend to happen around this time of year.   sadly they are not as good as they use to be. 
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: JollyCanadian on June 23, 2019, 11:03:01 pm
Spoiler
Most of the people on this forum are comp players, and what I've been saying for YEARS is that comp is only half of this community. The comp side has a tendency to keep with their own, semi-comp and casual regs tend to have a harder time gettin in with the people who run/attend comp events, like you. The problem with comp is that it doesn't draw too many new players to the game, casual does. As silly as this sounds, we STILL, in 2019 are getting new players to the community. What keeps these people around mostly is casual, not comp. What we need is to boost casual attendance, we need Paradox to put NW on sale again (if that's even possible), and we need to hold out long enough until BCoF comes out and then FINALLY we can put this community to rest.

Even tho godfreid is most likely going to win, I think he's too ingrained in the comp community to really even do anything with casual save for having his reg attend one once or twice a week.
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"Make BotSurvival Great Again."
"Make NW love Kpop girls"
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Thunderstormer on June 23, 2019, 11:08:42 pm
For Amue as he has forgotten his password to FSE.

Name: Amue
EU or NA?: EU
Are you aware that the position of Community Representative is one of trust and confidence, and do you understand you can be punished for breaking that trust?: yes
Why should you become CR?: I think I am in a good position in this community to solve the problems that have arisen recently. NW has been quite lively lately and I would like to support that.
What are one or two things you commit to doing as CR this term?
I would like to deal with the toxicity on the forums and help out with both competitive and casual events.
they have to make their own post.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Herishey on June 24, 2019, 12:12:05 am
Also if Amue doesn't know his own password he isn't going to be a very good CR.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: BabyJesus on June 24, 2019, 12:27:11 am
Gluk comes around to run for cr and then disappears when he loses only to reappear when another CR race is starting
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Eamon on June 24, 2019, 12:30:50 am
Jolly for CR plz
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Stroke0fd34th on June 24, 2019, 12:31:22 am
I second this. A CR coming from the LG, the epitome of "comp only people", wouldn't help the community at all. Jolly for president. "Make BotSurvival Great Again." Jolly supports bringing more kpop to NA regiments, so he's the obvious choice.

Wew. Yes, my many years in the LG bubble has conditioned me to think only about comp. I live, eat, breath and dream of comp. It is my obsession. Thank you for raising this concern.

Most of the people on this forum are comp players, and what I've been saying for YEARS is that comp is only half of this community. The comp side has a tendency to keep with their own, semi-comp and casual regs tend to have a harder time gettin in with the people who run/attend comp events, like you. The problem with comp is that it doesn't draw too many new players to the game, casual does. As silly as this sounds, we STILL, in 2019 are getting new players to the community. What keeps these people around mostly is casual, not comp. What we need is to boost casual attendance, we need Paradox to put NW on sale again (if that's even possible), and we need to hold out long enough until BCoF comes out and then FINALLY we can put this community to rest.

Even tho godfreid is most likely going to win, I think he's too ingrained in the comp community to really even do anything with casual save for having his reg attend one once or twice a week.

I feel like this is a silly attempt to paint me as someone who lives in a comp bubble and doesn't know anything beyond that.

I have a pretty extensive plan for how I'm going to "Promote/Stimulate competitive and public events, and continue to encourage crossover between the two", beyond "Hey guys, let's do a casual event once or twice a week! That'll be enough". Because, I'm not an idiot.

I want to make this game as much fun as I can for both competitive and casual players. I have time, I have a plan, and I want something more for the community as a whole than waiting for fucking BCoF or Bannerlord to kill us.



Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on June 24, 2019, 12:31:48 am
Gluk comes around to run for cr and then disappears when he loses only to reappear when another CR race is starting
what are you talking about, i've been here since before NANWL S9 started.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on June 24, 2019, 12:33:36 am
I second this. A CR coming from the LG, the epitome of "comp only people", wouldn't help the community at all. Jolly for president. "Make BotSurvival Great Again." Jolly supports bringing more kpop to NA regiments, so he's the obvious choice.

Wew. Yes, my many years in the LG bubble has conditioned me to think only about comp. I live, eat, breath and dream of comp. It is my obsession. Thank you for raising this concern.

Most of the people on this forum are comp players, and what I've been saying for YEARS is that comp is only half of this community. The comp side has a tendency to keep with their own, semi-comp and casual regs tend to have a harder time gettin in with the people who run/attend comp events, like you. The problem with comp is that it doesn't draw too many new players to the game, casual does. As silly as this sounds, we STILL, in 2019 are getting new players to the community. What keeps these people around mostly is casual, not comp. What we need is to boost casual attendance, we need Paradox to put NW on sale again (if that's even possible), and we need to hold out long enough until BCoF comes out and then FINALLY we can put this community to rest.

Even tho godfreid is most likely going to win, I think he's too ingrained in the comp community to really even do anything with casual save for having his reg attend one once or twice a week.

I feel like this is a silly attempt to paint me as someone who lives in a comp bubble and doesn't know anything beyond that.

I have a pretty extensive plan for how I'm going to "Promote/Stimulate competitive and public events, and continue to encourage crossover between the two", beyond "Hey guys, let's do a casual event once or twice a week! That'll be enough". Because, I'm not an idiot.

I want to make this game as much fun as I can for both competitive and casual players. I have time, I have a plan, and I want something more for the community as a whole than waiting for fucking BCoF or Bannerlord to kill us.
okay, what is your plan?
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: JollyCanadian on June 24, 2019, 12:34:04 am
I second this. A CR coming from the LG, the epitome of "comp only people", wouldn't help the community at all. Jolly for president. "Make BotSurvival Great Again." Jolly supports bringing more kpop to NA regiments, so he's the obvious choice.

Wew. Yes, my many years in the LG bubble has conditioned me to think only about comp. I live, eat, breath and dream of comp. It is my obsession. Thank you for raising this concern.

Most of the people on this forum are comp players, and what I've been saying for YEARS is that comp is only half of this community. The comp side has a tendency to keep with their own, semi-comp and casual regs tend to have a harder time gettin in with the people who run/attend comp events, like you. The problem with comp is that it doesn't draw too many new players to the game, casual does. As silly as this sounds, we STILL, in 2019 are getting new players to the community. What keeps these people around mostly is casual, not comp. What we need is to boost casual attendance, we need Paradox to put NW on sale again (if that's even possible), and we need to hold out long enough until BCoF comes out and then FINALLY we can put this community to rest.

Even tho godfreid is most likely going to win, I think he's too ingrained in the comp community to really even do anything with casual save for having his reg attend one once or twice a week.

I feel like this is a silly attempt to paint me as someone who lives in a comp bubble and doesn't know anything beyond that.

I have a pretty extensive plan for how I'm going to "Promote/Stimulate competitive and public events, and continue to encourage crossover between the two", beyond "Hey guys, let's do a casual event once or twice a week! That'll be enough". Because, I'm not an idiot.

I want to make this game as much fun as I can for both competitive and casual players. I have time, I have a plan, and I want something more for the community as a whole than waiting for fucking BCoF or Bannerlord to kill us.
Honestly I will defend Godfreid cause he isn't some comp fool and it's pretty lame that gluk comes back for a few months and attacks godfreid like that with nothing to back up his statement.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Risk_ on June 24, 2019, 12:38:36 am
Name: GlukTheWalrus
EU or NA?:  NA
Are you aware that the position of Community Representative is one of trust and confidence, and do you understand you can be punished for breaking that trust?: Yes
Why should you become CR?: Been a community activist for ages. 15thHvB boycott, 63e boycott, probably a few other boycotts. Promoted servers, ran events, hosted tournaments. Also, I made this.
What are one or two things you commit to doing as CR this term? Prolonging our inevitable demise. Giving a voice to the community that hasn't been heard in a long time.
EU or NA?:  Both

Y-You're applying for both NA and EU CR?
It wouldn't be allowed so the App is denied.  I also wouldn't consider them making "this" true either if they are referring to the CR program.
It was me and duuring. Can't remember who pitched the idea first but the first convo of CR and how it would work was between me and duuring, so fuck off. Me and duuring were pretty close friends for a while, almost went to the netherlands to hangout with him.

Edit: You're welcome to ask him if you like, if he even remembers. It's not a big deal, but I don't like being accused of lying.

Gluk, I just wouldn't say "fuck off" to a mod and have a poor attitude with them, not a great start since you will be working with them as CR.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on June 24, 2019, 12:42:48 am
I second this. A CR coming from the LG, the epitome of "comp only people", wouldn't help the community at all. Jolly for president. "Make BotSurvival Great Again." Jolly supports bringing more kpop to NA regiments, so he's the obvious choice.

Wew. Yes, my many years in the LG bubble has conditioned me to think only about comp. I live, eat, breath and dream of comp. It is my obsession. Thank you for raising this concern.

Most of the people on this forum are comp players, and what I've been saying for YEARS is that comp is only half of this community. The comp side has a tendency to keep with their own, semi-comp and casual regs tend to have a harder time gettin in with the people who run/attend comp events, like you. The problem with comp is that it doesn't draw too many new players to the game, casual does. As silly as this sounds, we STILL, in 2019 are getting new players to the community. What keeps these people around mostly is casual, not comp. What we need is to boost casual attendance, we need Paradox to put NW on sale again (if that's even possible), and we need to hold out long enough until BCoF comes out and then FINALLY we can put this community to rest.

Even tho godfreid is most likely going to win, I think he's too ingrained in the comp community to really even do anything with casual save for having his reg attend one once or twice a week.

I feel like this is a silly attempt to paint me as someone who lives in a comp bubble and doesn't know anything beyond that.

I have a pretty extensive plan for how I'm going to "Promote/Stimulate competitive and public events, and continue to encourage crossover between the two", beyond "Hey guys, let's do a casual event once or twice a week! That'll be enough". Because, I'm not an idiot.

I want to make this game as much fun as I can for both competitive and casual players. I have time, I have a plan, and I want something more for the community as a whole than waiting for fucking BCoF or Bannerlord to kill us.
Honestly I will defend Godfreid cause he isn't some comp fool and it's pretty lame that gluk comes back for a few months and attacks godfreid like that with nothing to back up his statement.
I was literally about to post an endorsement of you :'(

It's not that I have nothing to back it up. I'm good friends with midnight who runs several casual events and he said that he's never seen Godfreid in a casual event. I haven't gone recently, but only because we're focused on NANWL.

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Gluk, I just wouldn't say "fuck off" to a mod and have a poor attitude with them, not a great start since you will be working with them as CR.
How do you think I became friends with duuring?
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on June 24, 2019, 12:44:13 am
My criticism of Godfreid aside, I still think Jolly would make for a good CR and I hope he feels the same with me.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: JollyCanadian on June 24, 2019, 12:45:58 am
My criticism of Godfreid aside, I still think Jolly would make for a good mod and I hope he feels the same with me.
I don't fully understand what you mean that this
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on June 24, 2019, 12:47:34 am
My criticism of Godfreid aside, I still think Jolly would make for a good mod and I hope he feels the same with me.
I don't fully understand what you mean that this
CR not mod sorry
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: JollyCanadian on June 24, 2019, 12:50:04 am
My criticism of Godfreid aside, I still think Jolly would make for a good mod and I hope he feels the same with me.
I don't fully understand what you mean that this
CR not mod sorry
If you're asking if I think you'd be a good CR I would say you wouldn't be. Currently your attitude has been negative and very agressive towards everyone since your mod app for NANWL you haven't been the most positive and I think that sort of negativity wouldn't help anyone. That and currently the communities view of you isn't very good from what I've heard and experienced.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Stroke0fd34th on June 24, 2019, 12:50:25 am
I second this. A CR coming from the LG, the epitome of "comp only people", wouldn't help the community at all. Jolly for president. "Make BotSurvival Great Again." Jolly supports bringing more kpop to NA regiments, so he's the obvious choice.

Wew. Yes, my many years in the LG bubble has conditioned me to think only about comp. I live, eat, breath and dream of comp. It is my obsession. Thank you for raising this concern.

Most of the people on this forum are comp players, and what I've been saying for YEARS is that comp is only half of this community. The comp side has a tendency to keep with their own, semi-comp and casual regs tend to have a harder time gettin in with the people who run/attend comp events, like you. The problem with comp is that it doesn't draw too many new players to the game, casual does. As silly as this sounds, we STILL, in 2019 are getting new players to the community. What keeps these people around mostly is casual, not comp. What we need is to boost casual attendance, we need Paradox to put NW on sale again (if that's even possible), and we need to hold out long enough until BCoF comes out and then FINALLY we can put this community to rest.

Even tho godfreid is most likely going to win, I think he's too ingrained in the comp community to really even do anything with casual save for having his reg attend one once or twice a week.

I feel like this is a silly attempt to paint me as someone who lives in a comp bubble and doesn't know anything beyond that.

I have a pretty extensive plan for how I'm going to "Promote/Stimulate competitive and public events, and continue to encourage crossover between the two", beyond "Hey guys, let's do a casual event once or twice a week! That'll be enough". Because, I'm not an idiot.

I want to make this game as much fun as I can for both competitive and casual players. I have time, I have a plan, and I want something more for the community as a whole than waiting for fucking BCoF or Bannerlord to kill us.
Honestly I will defend Godfreid cause he isn't some comp fool and it's pretty lame that gluk comes back for a few months and attacks godfreid like that with nothing to back up his statement.
I was literally about to post an endorsement of you :'(

It's not that I have nothing to back it up. I'm good friends with midnight who runs several casual events and he said that he's never seen Godfreid in a casual event. I haven't gone recently, but only because we're focused on NANWL.

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Gluk, I just wouldn't say "fuck off" to a mod and have a poor attitude with them, not a great start since you will be working with them as CR.
How do you think I became friends with duuring?

I've been to multiple casual events with 1aSvea, 13thFL, even went to a casual event with 6te not too long ago (can ask Raf. We were arty, I merced for a groupfight vs IB right after it). On top of that I brought 3eVolt back briefly to do a casual event. Forgot I also attended a casual event with RSL like a week ago too.

So not only do you not have anything to back that up, you made your entire post based on false information.

Noice.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Risk_ on June 24, 2019, 12:51:19 am
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Gluk, I just wouldn't say "fuck off" to a mod and have a poor attitude with them, not a great start since you will be working with them as CR.
How do you think I became friends with duuring?

Don't know what you are trying to say. If you are implying you that you were an asshole to durring and became friends, you really think that works for everyone? lol. Or if you mean just because you were friends with an old mod doesn't mean you can assume all of them like you already or will, especially when you started that conversation off with Thunder like that.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: JollyCanadian on June 24, 2019, 12:52:33 am
I'd also like to add that just because you were involved with the creation of something doesn't mean you are deserving of that position. Entitlement won't get you anywhere and will only have a negative impact on your image.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on June 24, 2019, 01:03:16 am
I think you're all completely misinterpreting what I've been saying. I'm not trying to attack godfreid, I'm trying to bring up that I think he's too ingrained in the comp community and we haven't seen him do much with casual, his list of casual events isn't very long and more importantly he's never RAN a casual event, which isn't a negative against you exactly, many haven't, but It's more on the point that you're too comp focused. Maybe that could be totally different when you're CR, but from you're history you haven't been and I think in terms of keeping the community alive, comp isn't super important but casual is. I'd like the CR to be someone from casual or semi-comp. It wasn't a personal attack or anything and it wasn't unfounded, I just think that that is important.

I'd also like to add that just because you were involved with the creation of something doesn't mean you are deserving of that position. Entitlement won't get you anywhere and will only have a negative impact on your image.
Sure, if I brought it up the last dozen times I've ran. I never brought it up before because of this reason. I'm not saying that I deserve the position because of it, I'm simply proving that I act on behalf of the community, regardless of whether or not I'm CR and the creation of CR is an example of that.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: JollyCanadian on June 24, 2019, 01:06:14 am
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I'd also like to add that just because you were involved with the creation of something doesn't mean you are deserving of that position. Entitlement won't get you anywhere and will only have a negative impact on your image.
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Sure, if I brought it up the last dozen times I've ran. I never brought it up before because of this reason. I'm not saying that I deserve the position because of it, I'm simply proving that I act on behalf of the community, regardless of whether or not I'm CR and the creation of CR is an example of that.
I get that but it also makes no difference in your run. We're all here to act on behalf of the community otherwise we wouldn't run for CR. There is very little personal gain from it unless we do a good job and further our own positions in the community.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on June 24, 2019, 01:10:10 am
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Gluk, I just wouldn't say "fuck off" to a mod and have a poor attitude with them, not a great start since you will be working with them as CR.
How do you think I became friends with duuring?

Don't know what you are trying to say. If you are implying you that you were an asshole to durring and became friends, you really think that works for everyone? lol. Or if you mean just because you were friends with an old mod doesn't mean you can assume all of them like you already or will, especially when you started that conversation off with Thunder like that.
I wasn't seriously trying to insult thunderstormer, I was just saying that because he's trying to call me a liar which isn't appreciated.

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I'd also like to add that just because you were involved with the creation of something doesn't mean you are deserving of that position. Entitlement won't get you anywhere and will only have a negative impact on your image.
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Sure, if I brought it up the last dozen times I've ran. I never brought it up before because of this reason. I'm not saying that I deserve the position because of it, I'm simply proving that I act on behalf of the community, regardless of whether or not I'm CR and the creation of CR is an example of that.
I get that but it also makes no difference in your run. We're all here to act on behalf of the community otherwise we wouldn't run for CR. There is very little personal gain from it unless we do a good job and further our own positions in the community.
yes and I was showing an example of how I helped the community.


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Currently your attitude has been negative and very agressive towards everyone since your mod app for NANWL you haven't been the most positive and I think that sort of negativity wouldn't help anyone. That and currently the communities view of you isn't very good from what I've heard and experienced.
Side Note for the Memes:
Ya'll should know by now that I'm an aspie and I can't talk to people online without them always thinking that I'm being an asshole to them. None of that is on purpose. It's always the people who know me, know that I'm a cool dude, but everyone who only knows me off the forums thinks that I'm an asshole. I've never had a falling out with someone in this community with people who I actually talked to on a regular basis. My DMs are always open to everyone loves.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Stroke0fd34th on June 24, 2019, 01:21:16 am
I think you're all completely misinterpreting what I've been saying. I'm not trying to attack godfreid, I'm trying to bring up that I think he's too ingrained in the comp community and we haven't seen him do much with casual, his list of casual events isn't very long and more importantly he's never RAN a casual event, which isn't a negative against you exactly, many haven't, but It's more on the point that you're too comp focused. Maybe that could be totally different when you're CR, but from you're history you haven't been and I think in terms of keeping the community alive, comp isn't super important but casual is. I'd like the CR to be someone from casual or semi-comp. It wasn't a personal attack or anything and it wasn't unfounded, I just think that that is important.

Actually, this isn't remotely true, and don't speak on my "history" like you know it.

I ran a casual event back in 2013 (thread is somewhere in the depths of taleworlds), and helped run a few others back then as well.

2012-mid 2014 I did nothing but casual events with the occasional 1v1. 2015-2017 I did a mixture of casual and competitive, I only took a hard stop on casual events during 2018, but have resumed attending them in 2019 when I can.

This is why I mentioned I've been in the community for a long time, because I have, and I have a lot of experience to bring with me, both competitive and casual.

You not knowing what I've done in casual doesn't equate to me not doing anything in casual, much like Midnight having not seen me at casual events doesn't mean I haven't been to them
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on June 24, 2019, 01:29:22 am
The point is, regardless of what you used to do, you're comp focused right now and that's a problem. Basically started in casual but progressively become more into comp. Your list of recent events isn't really enough to change my mind that you're a comp player at heart, which isn't a bad thing... I'm just afraid that you'd be too focused on comp stuff.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: ~NickCole~ on June 24, 2019, 01:31:40 am
Tbh Gluk you were gone for a while and came back sometime this year. Why should we have a CR that isn’t active in the community. Windflower has barely played the game since PSG died but at least he talks to the community every now and then to check up on it & stay somewhat in touch. The casual scene doesn’t need much fixing since people still go to the same boring events every week without much complaints & the people who run the events got rid of the people/regiments who we’re corrupting the events recently (last month or 2).
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Stroke0fd34th on June 24, 2019, 01:40:45 am
The point is, regardless of what you used to do, you're comp focused right now and that's a problem. Basically started in casual but progressively become more into comp. Your list of recent events isn't really enough to change my mind that you're a comp player at heart.

No, the point is you're laughably unqualified to speak on me, and you have nothing to back up the statements you keep making.

Like you saying I'm comp focused right now...based on what? My regular mercing for casual events when I can? My bringing 3eVolt back together for a casual event? You don't talk to me on a regular basis, you have NO IDEA where my focus lies, none. You're  just throwing out a statement you think sounds right and will stick.

I've even probably been to more casual events recently than you have.

I don't care even a little bit about changing your mind, what I care about is not letting myself get misrepresented by someone who doesn't know what he's talking about.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Superbad on June 24, 2019, 01:44:20 am
The point is, regardless of what you used to do, you're comp focused right now and that's a problem. Basically started in casual but progressively become more into comp. Your list of recent events isn't really enough to change my mind that you're a comp player at heart, which isn't a bad thing... I'm just afraid that you'd be too focused on comp stuff.

Everyone, at one point, was just a casual player.

Godfreid has the COMMUNITY as a whole in mind. Not JUST the competitive scene or your precious casual events. Don't try to read his mind, you're not some sort of Jedi.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on June 24, 2019, 01:48:34 am
The point is, regardless of what you used to do, you're comp focused right now and that's a problem. Basically started in casual but progressively become more into comp. Your list of recent events isn't really enough to change my mind that you're a comp player at heart.

No, the point is you're laughably unqualified to speak on me, and you have nothing to back up the statements you keep making.

Like you saying I'm comp focused right now...based on what? My regular mercing for casual events when I can? My bringing 3eVolt back together for a casual event? You don't talk to me on a regular basis, you have NO IDEA where my focus lies, none. You're  just throwing out a statement you think sounds right and will stick.

I've even probably been to more casual events recently than you have.

I don't care even a little bit about changing your mind, what I care about is not letting myself get misrepresented by someone who doesn't know what he's talking about.
agree to disagree, it's not personal.

Tbh Gluk you were gone for a while and came back sometime this year. Why should we have a CR that isn’t active in the community. Windflower has barely played the game since PSG died but at least he talks to the community every now and then to check up on it & stay somewhat in touch. The casual scene doesn’t need much fixing since people still go to the same boring events every week without much complaints & the people who run the events got rid of the people/regiments who we’re corrupting the events recently (last month or 2).
I have no idea what you're talking about.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on June 24, 2019, 01:50:08 am
The point is, regardless of what you used to do, you're comp focused right now and that's a problem. Basically started in casual but progressively become more into comp. Your list of recent events isn't really enough to change my mind that you're a comp player at heart, which isn't a bad thing... I'm just afraid that you'd be too focused on comp stuff.

Everyone, at one point, was just a casual player.

Godfreid has the COMMUNITY as a whole in mind. Not JUST the competitive scene or your precious casual events. Don't try to read his mind, you're not some sort of Jedi.
I'm not saying he wont, i'm saying that based on his history, he's a comp player right now.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Stroke0fd34th on June 24, 2019, 02:00:11 am
The point is, regardless of what you used to do, you're comp focused right now and that's a problem. Basically started in casual but progressively become more into comp. Your list of recent events isn't really enough to change my mind that you're a comp player at heart.

No, the point is you're laughably unqualified to speak on me, and you have nothing to back up the statements you keep making.

Like you saying I'm comp focused right now...based on what? My regular mercing for casual events when I can? My bringing 3eVolt back together for a casual event? You don't talk to me on a regular basis, you have NO IDEA where my focus lies, none. You're  just throwing out a statement you think sounds right and will stick.

I've even probably been to more casual events recently than you have.

I don't care even a little bit about changing your mind, what I care about is not letting myself get misrepresented by someone who doesn't know what he's talking about.
agree to disagree, it's not personal.

No. You've demonstrated that you don't know what you're talking about, so stop making statements regarding me. It's that simple.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: JollyCanadian on June 24, 2019, 02:02:23 am
Time to stop that argument. It's going no where and it isn't making anymore sense.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Stroke0fd34th on June 24, 2019, 02:03:22 am
Time to stop that argument. It's going no were and it isn't making anymore sense.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Tardet on June 24, 2019, 02:15:19 am
This might very well be lost in the above argument related to Gluck and Godfried's candidacies but just pointing that I genuinely appreciate Blaze's admission of not being the most active and knowledgeable community player but still intending to make his best effort on keeping an eye on competitive matters and getting involved with the relevant people. Imo that's a risky move to make when you know that any influential 'competitive' player could make an application and get a large part of the competitive community behind him, which also represents a large part of the people being active on the forums and therefore voting for that election.

The last EU CR was one of the pillars of the NW competitive scene and that it's very unlikely we'll get someone as competent when it comes to competitive matters. It's also worth remembering that the competitive community is rather self-sustainable and that a CR has no real way to stop the most detrimental effect for its health, aka losing players/leaders over the years who do not get replaced. A CR has to be capable of taking care of both communities and while the competitive community might be more demanding in term of 'time' because its members are used to certain standards regarding events, tournaments, regiments and teams, it's not necessarily the one which might be in need of help & new projects the most.

I know Blaze doesn't look like the most obvious candidate, didn't look like one for me at first glance either - especially due to low forum activity as of late - but for the reasons mentioned above I believe he is at least worth being considered for what he is capable to bring.

At the current state of the community especially, it's important to see the bigger picture and not be driven by egotistical reasonings. So long as they don't join the 19th and get disgusted of the competitive side, players starting the game or joining a new regiment now in a casual environment could very well turn out to be great competitive players later on once they grow a desire to push things further and discover another aspect of NW. If they try out competitive now, most won't make it past day 2.

Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: JollyCanadian on June 24, 2019, 02:18:31 am
This might very well be lost in the above argument related to Gluck and Godfried's candidacies but just pointing that I genuinely appreciate Blaze's admission of not being the most active and knowledgeable community player but still intending to make his best effort on keeping an eye on competitive matters and getting involved with the relevant people. Imo that's a risky move to make when you know that any influent 'competitive' player could make an application and get a large part of the competitive community behind him, which also represents a large part of the people being active on the forums and therefore voting for that election.

The last EU CR was one of the pillars of the NW competitive scene and that it's very unlikely we'll get someone as competent when it comes to competitive matters. It's also worth remembering that the competitive community is rather self-sustainable and that a CR has no real way to stop the most detrimental effect for its health, aka losing players/leaders over the years who do not get replaced. A CR has to be capable of taking care of both communities and while the competitive community might be more demanding in term of 'time' because its members are used to certain standards regarding events, tournaments, regiments and teams, it's not necessarily the one which might be in need of help & new projects the most.

I know Blaze doesn't look like the most obvious candidate, didn't look like one for me at first glance either - especially due to low forum activity as of late - but for the reasons mentioned above I believe he is at least worth being considered for what he is capable to bring.

At the current state of the community especially, it's important to see the bigger picture and not be driven by egotistical reasonings. So long as they don't join the 19th and get disgusted of the competitive side, players starting the game or joining a new regiment now in a casual environment could very well turn out to be great competitive players later on once they grow a desire to push things further and discover another aspect of NW. If they try out competitive now, most won't make it past day 2.
+1
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Eamon on June 24, 2019, 02:20:30 am
To be truthful, nobody is qualified fully if the qualifications involve being both active on a competitive and casual level. I personally don't know Godfreids level of activity overall on casual, but his general focus historically in the last year and a half or 2 is competitive. The state of the NA community currently and for as long as I can remember in the last few years has meant that the majority of the player base is casual. Therefore I think what Gluks concerns are is that Godfreid might not represent that majority player base as he feels he might.

That is not to say that Godfreid isn't capable or doesn't have plans to be involved in the casual side a bit more in order to promote the coordination and lessen the gap between comp and casual. I personally would welcome that as the competitive scene is relatively small and everybody could benefit from the casual players being able to approach competitive events and learn more about the higher tier gameplay and enrich their own gameplay experience.
As for the casual side benefits, it is tough to tell, but everybody getting a little bit better and be able to be involved on both sides of the game would make for an interesting community on NA as in the past every regiment had a crack at competitive whilst maintaining their casual events.

Also being honest,  Gluk may have had past experience and was semi active recently with the 1erGren partaking in both casual and competitive, but his own personal activity is not great, so I don't know how he would find the time.

Jolly has had lots of experience in casual and its community and also been involved in the competitive scene and trying to promote casual players involving themselves in it. My own personal vote is Jolly for these reasons,  although saying that I don't know how active he is anymore in game with the recent break of the 15e.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: JollyCanadian on June 24, 2019, 02:24:25 am
Jolly has had lots of experience in casual and its community and also been involved in the competitive scene and trying to promote casual players involving themselves in it. My own personal vote is Jolly for these reasons,  although saying that I don't know how active he is anymore in game with the recent break of the 15e.

I haven't been going to casual events this is true and I'm not too sure if I plan on it. I might be mercing every once in a while. Currently my focus is on the BBG and managing the servers and admins within it. Currently planning on running a fun event for the public players and of course the rest of NW if invited.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: JollyCanadian on June 24, 2019, 02:27:29 am
to add on to that last point.
My focus is more on running and helping organize events for the players not so much playing the game. I do enjoy it but I enjoy giving opportunities for players to enjoy the game in more ways then just pub events and comp 1v1s. Looking into doing capture the flag on a large scale and hopefully other game types like dan's paint ball custom game.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Yvrul on June 24, 2019, 02:27:40 am
Vote for Erik.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: ~NickCole~ on June 24, 2019, 04:15:45 am
Like Tardet said good luck getting casual guys to do competitive after 2 days or even a week. Too many NA regiments are scared to even approach comp stuff nowadays so you have to personally ask players that are somewhat skilled in those regs to encourage them to try it out.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: JollyCanadian on June 24, 2019, 04:32:42 am
Like Tardet said good luck getting casual guys to do competitive after 2 days or even a week. Too many NA regiments are scared to even approach comp stuff nowadays so you have to personally ask players that are somewhat skilled in those regs to encourage them to try it out.
This is the hardest thing that I've faced when trying to get them in. but it's a long game that has to be played. It's not like we all just went into comp right away. A lot of people don't like to take it seriously but so long as it's enjoyable they tend to do comp. Personally I think if you can create a bond with a small group of people and get them involved in friendly tournaments and other things like that they do come around to joining more serious comp.

If nothing else I still think we should as a community or atleast a few individuals attempt to get more people to join if not then make more friendly tournaments OR Continue the tournaments we have. I'm gonna try and get a few tournament hosters together so we may constantly have tournaments under the same name on a regular basis.(This wouldn't act like the tournament group that EU currently has)
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: VetroG on June 24, 2019, 04:48:03 am
I don’t care who you are, but if you host tournaments I can play in with my friends I’ll vote for you.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Golden. on June 24, 2019, 05:02:52 am
This might very well be lost in the above argument related to Gluck and Godfried's candidacies but just pointing that I genuinely appreciate Blaze's admission of not being the most active and knowledgeable community player but still intending to make his best effort on keeping an eye on competitive matters and getting involved with the relevant people. Imo that's a risky move to make when you know that any influent 'competitive' player could make an application and get a large part of the competitive community behind him, which also represents a large part of the people being active on the forums and therefore voting for that election.

The last EU CR was one of the pillars of the NW competitive scene and that it's very unlikely we'll get someone as competent when it comes to competitive matters. It's also worth remembering that the competitive community is rather self-sustainable and that a CR has no real way to stop the most detrimental effect for its health, aka losing players/leaders over the years who do not get replaced. A CR has to be capable of taking care of both communities and while the competitive community might be more demanding in term of 'time' because its members are used to certain standards regarding events, tournaments, regiments and teams, it's not necessarily the one which might be in need of help & new projects the most.

I know Blaze doesn't look like the most obvious candidate, didn't look like one for me at first glance either - especially due to low forum activity as of late - but for the reasons mentioned above I believe he is at least worth being considered for what he is capable to bring.

At the current state of the community especially, it's important to see the bigger picture and not be driven by egotistical reasonings. So long as they don't join the 19th and get disgusted of the competitive side, players starting the game or joining a new regiment now in a casual environment could very well turn out to be great competitive players later on once they grow a desire to push things further and discover another aspect of NW. If they try out competitive now, most won't make it past day 2.

I don't know who Blaze is but I think it would be great to have someone who is willing to bring together the community more and introduce casual and semi-comp players into more of the competitive community. As a heavily competitive based player I think it's a shame that it is in such a bubble of players and it's really hard for a new player or someone who is even quite skilled at the game to get any kind of foothold in the competitive community as i've been through myself and i'm sure others have too. Due to the toxic environment and the ego that surrounds it.

FSE is the only place where you can properly host tournaments and it acts as as the key gateway to the administration of the community so it's important who ever is the CR understands that. I would apply myself but I feel like it's unnecessary as Herishey who is now a junior moderator is very good at organising and helping out with the competitive side and is still very active after all these years, all I would say is that if Blaze or other people who are more in tuned with the casual side want to involve themselves more they should be at the least considerate of the competitive community and the current conventions we have when it comes to tournaments, groupfighting and etc.

I've seen a couple of competitive tournaments being hosted recently namely the "lion tournament" hosted by Tim and the NW championship hosted by Ewoksson both of which from mine and other competitive players opinions have had some odd rules and weird organising and both have not been too tolerant of competitive players signing up namely by grouping us all in one bracket or changing the rules so we can't sign up and etc. I would ask that the new CR would advise newer and more casual oriented players to actually head into the competitive tournament sections and get themselves involved more rather than just hosting some random competitive tournament or just ignoring us completely. I understand it's difficult since how far ahead the competitve scene is in terms of 'skill' but there are still players who make it through 'new gens' and some people are missing out because it's a lot of fun once you are into it. Just my two cents. So there are loads of options which we could take to help widen the competitive scene to all who play the game.

Good luck to all who run.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: [Stryker] on June 24, 2019, 06:26:15 am
In my opinion, I feel like CR needs to be more connected with regimental leaders.  Look at me for example.  I never even knew of the community representative position till earlier this spring, and I've been in this game since 2013.  I asked one of my old leaders from 2016/2017 if he even knew about the position back then, and he told me he didn't (This was the 79thCH, which could nearly get 40 people in their biggest events).  Of course, during this election I pretty much know every candidate who's running on the NA side to some degree, but some regimental leaders don't always get the luxuries of having connections.  When it comes down to it, regimental leaders represent the every day people who play this game.  It doesn't matter how big or small the regiment is, it still has the people that keep this community alive.  The members of regiments have their opinions, and they relay that to the regimental leader.  Want an example?  If members of a regiment don't want to go to an event, the regimental leader will choose not to go to that event.  Depending on circumstance, this could affect the given event, and in turn could affect the part of the community that goes to that event (I'm essentially saying a scenario like this could potentially break events for the community).  In conclusion, my argument is that CR's need to spend a good amount of time connecting with reg leaders to help the community.  The way that the CR connects to those reg leaders is up to the CR, but it is still something that I feel like should be focused on during this election.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: suns on June 24, 2019, 06:52:30 am
what is every candidates plan to 'stimulate competitive/casual' ive only seen jolly really respond in depth with it +1

i guess attending casual events like the average comp player is a point to boost credibility lol ok

I ran a casual event back in 2013 (thread is somewhere in the depths of taleworlds), and helped run a few others back then as well.

uh are you lying or something dude

for one the using search function on taleworlds i can't find the thread you speak of (search function doesn't lie, used keyword "Godfreid" maybe need something else please give)

but two your taleworlds account post history

https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=270509

you have four posts and none of which are OP or host of a casual event (unless you used a separate account for taleworlds then show us otherwise it looks like you made it up)

your forum rank is even "Recruit" which denotes you are not very active on their forum either to point that out (but you've had the account for years)

though you did sign up your reg at the time (Nr48, thread made for it too) for a casual event all i can see.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Stroke0fd34th on June 24, 2019, 07:41:25 am
what is every candidates plan to 'stimulate competitive/casual' ive only seen jolly really respond in depth with it +1

i guess attending casual events like the average comp player is a point to boost credibility lol ok

I ran a casual event back in 2013 (thread is somewhere in the depths of taleworlds), and helped run a few others back then as well.

uh are you lying or something dude

for one the using search function on taleworlds i can't find the thread you speak of (search function doesn't lie, used keyword "Godfreid" maybe need something else please give)

but two your taleworlds account post history

https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=270509

you have four posts and none of which are OP or host of a casual event (unless you used a separate account for taleworlds then show us otherwise it looks like you made it up)

your forum rank is even "Recruit" which denotes you are not very active on their forum either to point that out (but you've had the account for years)

though you did sign up your reg at the time (Nr48, thread made for it too) for a casual event all i can see.

Yeah dude, I'm totally lying, you caught me. Good catch super sleuth.

No, I just misremembered which forum it was hosted on.

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=4308.msg137199#msg137199

https://gyazo.com/753308e8cb4900446610ec101f68e324

It was called Requiem Gaming Linebattles. Held on on Mondays and Wednesdays. Hotfire posted the thread for it, then disappeared for a while so I had to run it cause it was a 98e run event.

and I also helped out with the Life Gaming event though that was primarily by David and MiddleN.

Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: suns on June 24, 2019, 07:49:58 am
can we have more na tournies like the eus upcoming cr

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what is every candidates plan to 'stimulate competitive/casual'
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: VetroG on June 24, 2019, 08:03:49 am
can we have more na tournies like the eus upcoming cr

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what is every candidates plan to 'stimulate competitive/casual'
Yeah, would be nice to do some tournaments again.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Stroke0fd34th on June 24, 2019, 09:00:40 am
can we have more na tournies like the eus upcoming cr

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what is every candidates plan to 'stimulate competitive/casual'

I don't really want to type out the entirety of my plan. I typed out part of it and it took me almost 30 minutes.

But yes, to answer your question, I plan to host some tournaments, and import some tournaments from the EU's (like protect the king, and the sword + bayonet tournaments). I also plan to bring back a refined version of my All-Star tournament and host a new league/event type which should appeal very well to both competitive and casual communities. But I don't want to go into too much detail on that because it would take a while and it's still a WIP.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Blaze on June 24, 2019, 09:38:44 am
This might very well be lost in the above argument related to Gluck and Godfried's candidacies but just pointing that I genuinely appreciate Blaze's admission of not being the most active and knowledgeable community player but still intending to make his best effort on keeping an eye on competitive matters and getting involved with the relevant people. Imo that's a risky move to make when you know that any influent 'competitive' player could make an application and get a large part of the competitive community behind him, which also represents a large part of the people being active on the forums and therefore voting for that election.

Good luck to the rest of the EU and NA candidates and thank you for the support I am receiving I do fully admit my recent activity hasn't been the best, and that my knowledge in the competitive scene is a little "stale" however I feel like previously this role has been the main focus for the competitive community (which is a large proportion of the forums/community) to get a voice and be able to develop the competitive scene, but I feel as if the community has forgotten that there still are regiments that play casually and play the game for fun, as mentioned before a competitive playstyle almost always tends to follow with toxic behaviour, as someone who use to be involved in the competitive scene this is something I witnessed a lot, although my main focus is going to be on the overall community, I am not completely dismissing the idea of what the competitive community wants, as I stated in my application because I haven't been in the competitive scene for a while putting it all down to me on hosting tournaments and passing through what the competitive scene want is going to be a challenge, however it is going to be less of a challenge if I gain the cooperation of the competitive community to bring ideas forward, discuss those ideas and see if we would be able to expand that into something bigger.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Steinmann on June 24, 2019, 11:29:03 am
*snip*
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Theodin on June 24, 2019, 01:01:18 pm
Man just go away Gluk
Glad we have 2 competent CR candidates in Godfriend and Jolly. It’ll be a hard choice but both would be excellent
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: JollyCanadian on June 24, 2019, 04:08:26 pm
Man just go away Gluk
Glad we have 2 competent CR candidates in Godfriend and Jolly. It’ll be a hard choice but both would be excellent
+1  Godfreid and I are gonna work together no matter the out come of this election. We both have ideas for tournaments and different way of achieving our similar goals. I don't see a point of making this a hostile election if it doesn't have to be.
can we have more na tournies like the eus upcoming cr
Like I said in an earlier post I want to do something similar to the EUs by having a group of people willing to host tournaments under the same name so they may be hosted on a regular basis while not excluding anyone from hosting their own tournaments.

An update on my own tournaments. The tierd duel tournament will be put on hold at the moment. At first it was because I couldn't find a day I was free but also the NA side doesn't have a real interest in duel tournaments so I hope to do other tournament types or semi comp fun events (capture the flag and I want to try and do regicide(If anyone has any ideas please contact me about this one))
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: sidney crosby on June 24, 2019, 05:31:31 pm
great 3 more months with a god damn Canadian in charge

btw gluk running on entitlement won’t win you anything, nobody gives a shit I promise!!
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: JollyCanadian on June 24, 2019, 05:39:50 pm
great 3 more months with a god damn Canadian in charge
Canadian's rise up
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: VetroG on June 24, 2019, 05:47:36 pm
The reason people don’t sign up for duel tournaments anymore or tournaments in general really is because it’s the same winners all the time. MATT always wins the duel tournaments... and then you have the stacked LG team sweeping every groupfighting tournament, so you need to space out the players so it’s fair for everyone. I think you guys could try some drafting tournaments possibly like Rex is in his upcoming 5v5 but it’s really stupid to play the same stacked teams over and over.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: sidney crosby on June 24, 2019, 05:49:01 pm
The reason people don’t sign up for duel tournaments anymore or tournaments in general really is because it’s the same winners all the time. MATT always wins the duel tournaments... and then you have the stacked LG team sweeping every group fighting tournament, so you need to space out the players so it’s fair for everyone.
that was the purpose  of the 4v4 draft random 2v2 etc but yea fair point
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: VetroG on June 24, 2019, 05:53:28 pm
The reason people don’t sign up for duel tournaments anymore or tournaments in general really is because it’s the same winners all the time. MATT always wins the duel tournaments... and then you have the stacked LG team sweeping every group fighting tournament, so you need to space out the players so it’s fair for everyone.
that was the purpose  of the 4v4 draft random 2v2 etc but yea fair point
Yeah, I think we just need more.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: JollyCanadian on June 24, 2019, 06:22:30 pm
The reason people don’t sign up for duel tournaments anymore or tournaments in general really is because it’s the same winners all the time. MATT always wins the duel tournaments... and then you have the stacked LG team sweeping every groupfighting tournament, so you need to space out the players so it’s fair for everyone. I think you guys could try some drafting tournaments possibly like Rex is in his upcoming 5v5 but it’s really stupid to play the same stacked team over and over.
You're spot on. I'd like to do a large tournament with multiple tiers. only thing is we'd need 50+ players and time to organize it which I think is very possible. but yeah we do need more variety
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: ~NickCole~ on June 24, 2019, 07:11:48 pm
Tbh the 4v4 draft league was fair until every team(including the top teams) got a chance to pick a good player then it really became unbalanced.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: JollyCanadian on June 24, 2019, 07:36:23 pm
Tbh the 4v4 draft league was fair until every team(including the top teams) got a chance to pick a good player then it really became unbalanced.
That was the first time running it and we did learned a bunch I think we've figured out all of the issues for the 2nd season
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: VetroG on June 24, 2019, 07:39:30 pm
Tbh the 4v4 draft league was fair until every team(including the top teams) got a chance to pick a good player then it really became unbalanced.
That was the first time running it and we did learned a bunch I think we've figured out all of the issues for the 2nd season
When do you plan on hosting the 2nd season?
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on June 24, 2019, 08:06:46 pm
great 3 more months with a god damn Canadian in charge

btw gluk running on entitlement won’t win you anything, nobody gives a shit I promise!!
If I was actually running on entitlement, don't you think I would've mentioned it in the other elections? It was an offhand comment that was kind of a meme/an example of something I actually helped do for the community and look at how long it's lasted.

Vote for me or not, but my point is that throughout the years I have done CONSTANT advocacy for this community and that is something that you cannot deny. I apologize that the intention of my words never seems to carry with what's actually written.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: JollyCanadian on June 24, 2019, 08:11:37 pm
Tbh the 4v4 draft league was fair until every team(including the top teams) got a chance to pick a good player then it really became unbalanced.
That was the first time running it and we did learned a bunch I think we've figured out all of the issues for the 2nd season
When do you plan on hosting the 2nd season?
We haven't fully talked about it yet but personally I'd like to do it in the fall season instead of waiting a whole year to start again.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on June 24, 2019, 08:15:07 pm
I've said for years that people need to stop letting the 63e into their events, put them on a fucking island by themselves. I've said that the 15thHvB is a horrible first entry point for new players. I've said that NA 1 needs to come back and I tried doing work for that. I have tried to my best ability throughout the years to get new players in and keep them here as long as possible, I've essentially been doing the work that was initially envisioned for this role but year after year we get CRs who just want more tournaments and that's not the point of this role... That's why I don't want another comp player to be CR.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on June 24, 2019, 08:24:05 pm
I've said for years that people need to stop letting the 63e into their events, put them on a fucking island by themselves. I've said that the 15thHvB is a horrible first entry point for new players. I've said that NA 1 needs to come back and I tried doing work for that. I have tried to my best ability throughout the years to get new players in and keep them here as long as possible, I've essentially been doing the work that was initially envisioned for this role but year after year we get CRs who just want more tournaments and that's not the point of this role... That's why I don't want another comp player to be CR.
So what exactly are you going to do differently from what you’re doing now with the CR “power”?
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: ~NickCole~ on June 24, 2019, 08:24:34 pm
Bot Survival has been a new entry for NAs the past 3-4 years now. I see where you are coming from about the CR only doing meee tournaments but what needs to be done in the casual scene? The events are ran fine & nobody has been bringing up new event ideas besides LG recently so why care much about it? They legit don’t need any help with anything and seem to run on their own just fine.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: JollyCanadian on June 24, 2019, 08:27:07 pm
I've said for years that people need to stop letting the 63e into their events, put them on a fucking island by themselves. I've said that the 15thHvB is a horrible first entry point for new players. I've said that NA 1 needs to come back and I tried doing work for that. I have tried to my best ability throughout the years to get new players in and keep them here as long as possible, I've essentially been doing the work that was initially envisioned for this role but year after year we get CRs who just want more tournaments and that's not the point of this role... That's why I don't want another comp player to be CR.
Tournaments aren't the main focus of myself or Godfreid. Instead they are a tool that we will be using to gain more players in the FSE community as a whole. Not only will tournaments be hosted but also custom events that are new, more enjoyable and stay away from the more traditional Linebattle/siege events currently in place. Yes comp is a large part of FSE currently but being able to have comp players attend public events/community events(not refering to linebattles) and the casual public side joining in on competitive events aswell and also using FSE or at the very least reading FSE(I encourage regiment leaders to teach their members how to use FSE) to strengthen the community and to make the huge gap that is between the comp and the casual side of NW. Currently I am one of the few in charge of the BBG community who controls many public servers that have 50-100+ players on at a time. we have an active discord with 1057 current members (around 200-400 of them are semi active within the servers) I will be using this platform to host events and to have a direct form of communication with them. which we've done in the past with pubs vs HRE, pubs vs comp players. with turn outs of around 100+ pubs who'd do it again.

It's not all about comp players and tournaments but it's about using these tools to keep the interest in the game for all players at every skill level. This isn't something that one person can do and being CR won't give you a magic tool to have full control over the outcome of certain situations. If we're gonna keep the community alive and popular we do in the end have to work together as a community instead of pointing fingers at each other.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on June 24, 2019, 08:39:10 pm
I've said for years that people need to stop letting the 63e into their events, put them on a fucking island by themselves. I've said that the 15thHvB is a horrible first entry point for new players. I've said that NA 1 needs to come back and I tried doing work for that. I have tried to my best ability throughout the years to get new players in and keep them here as long as possible, I've essentially been doing the work that was initially envisioned for this role but year after year we get CRs who just want more tournaments and that's not the point of this role... That's why I don't want another comp player to be CR.
Tournaments aren't the main focus of myself or Godfreid. Instead they are a tool that we will be using to gain more players in the FSE community as a whole. Not only will tournaments be hosted but also custom events that are new, more enjoyable and stay away from the more traditional Linebattle/siege events currently in place. Yes comp is a large part of FSE currently but being able to have comp players attend public events/community events(not refering to linebattles) and the casual public side joining in on competitive events aswell and also using FSE or at the very least reading FSE(I encourage regiment leaders to teach their members how to use FSE) to strengthen the community and to make the huge gap that is between the comp and the casual side of NW. Currently I am one of the few in charge of the BBG community who controls many public servers that have 50-100+ players on at a time. we have an active discord with 1057 current members (around 200-400 of them are semi active within the servers) I will be using this platform to host events and to have a direct form of communication with them. which we've done in the past with pubs vs HRE, pubs vs comp players. with turn outs of around 100+ pubs who'd do it again.

It's not all about comp players and tournaments but it's about using these tools to keep the interest in the game for all players at every skill level. This isn't something that one person can do and being CR won't give you a magic tool to have full control over the outcome of certain situations. If we're gonna keep the community alive and popular we do in the end have to work together as a community instead of pointing fingers at each other.
Lol Jolly, I'm well aware of you. That's why I said I'd be fine with you as CR.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on June 24, 2019, 08:42:58 pm
I'm withdrawing and putting my support behind Jolly. I'm already too annoyed at people lying to me... not like i'd win anyways.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Moraine on June 24, 2019, 09:06:53 pm
Name: Lady Alicia Moraine
EU or NA?: NA
Are you aware that the position of Community Representative is one of trust and confidence, and do you understand you can be punished for breaking that trust?: Yes
Why should you become CR?: My experience with administrative work and organizing which I feel is imperative for anyone who holds the CR Role. I'm much more known in casual and the competitive community. I've run events and tournaments in both and am fairly active on the forums which also will need to be moderated. I believe i'm the best candidate due to my perseverance and my never give up attitude.
What are one or two things you commit to doing as CR this term: Reorganizing and promoting Casual events which of recent have seen a drop in standards and adminship due to 2ndhan departure. My second would be to focus on the competitive community I've been considering doing a Regimental Groupfighting League but may scale it down to a 5v5 league or even maybe 8v8 both to give competitive the jump it needs to be more active and something for the competitive people to be excited about. Also keeping BOB's supremacy of the groupfighting servers would also be one of my priority's.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: JollyCanadian on June 24, 2019, 09:21:26 pm
Name: Lady Alicia Moraine
EU or NA?: NA
Are you aware that the position of Community Representative is one of trust and confidence, and do you understand you can be punished for breaking that trust?: Yes
Why should you become CR?: My experience with administrative work and organizing which I feel is imperative for anyone who holds the CR Role. I'm much more known in casual and the competitive community. I've run events and tournaments in both and am fairly active on the forums which also will need to be moderated. I believe i'm the best candidate due to my perseverance and my never give up attitude.
What are one or two things you commit to doing as CR this term: Reorganizing and promoting Casual events which of recent have seen a drop in standards and adminship due to 2ndhan departure. My second would be to focus on the competitive community I've been considering doing a Regimental Groupfighting League but may scale it down to a 5v5 league or even maybe 8v8 both to give competitive the jump it needs to be more active and something for the competitive people to be excited about.
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Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Moraine on June 24, 2019, 09:21:58 pm
Name: Lady Alicia Moraine
EU or NA?: NA
Are you aware that the position of Community Representative is one of trust and confidence, and do you understand you can be punished for breaking that trust?: Yes
Why should you become CR?: My experience with administrative work and organizing which I feel is imperative for anyone who holds the CR Role. I'm much more known in casual and the competitive community. I've run events and tournaments in both and am fairly active on the forums which also will need to be moderated. I believe i'm the best candidate due to my perseverance and my never give up attitude.
What are one or two things you commit to doing as CR this term: Reorganizing and promoting Casual events which of recent have seen a drop in standards and adminship due to 2ndhan departure. My second would be to focus on the competitive community I've been considering doing a Regimental Groupfighting League but may scale it down to a 5v5 league or even maybe 8v8 both to give competitive the jump it needs to be more active and something for the competitive people to be excited about.
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6th times the charm
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: VetroG on June 24, 2019, 09:32:23 pm
Name: Lady Alicia Moraine
EU or NA?: NA
Are you aware that the position of Community Representative is one of trust and confidence, and do you understand you can be punished for breaking that trust?: Yes
Why should you become CR?: My experience with administrative work and organizing which I feel is imperative for anyone who holds the CR Role. I'm much more known in casual and the competitive community. I've run events and tournaments in both and am fairly active on the forums which also will need to be moderated. I believe i'm the best candidate due to my perseverance and my never give up attitude.
What are one or two things you commit to doing as CR this term: Reorganizing and promoting Casual events which of recent have seen a drop in standards and adminship due to 2ndhan departure. My second would be to focus on the competitive community I've been considering doing a Regimental Groupfighting League but may scale it down to a 5v5 league or even maybe 8v8 both to give competitive the jump it needs to be more active and something for the competitive people to be excited about.
*Player 3 has entered your channel*
6th times the charm
LOL.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Noorwegian on June 24, 2019, 09:59:15 pm
Good luck to all candidates. Nice to see that there has been some discussion and debate surrounding the CR role, seems like you've for the most part kept it civil.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: JollyCanadian on June 24, 2019, 10:02:00 pm
Good luck to all candidates. Nice to see that there has been some discussion and debate surrounding the CR role, seems like you've for the most part kept it civil.
I agree. No one has seem to have blown up just yet
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Theodin on June 24, 2019, 10:41:04 pm
Unbold that shit rn b
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: suns on June 24, 2019, 10:54:54 pm
Quote
Name: Lady Alicia Moraine

lol.

i like these CR ideas jolly and godfreid have + cohesion

+1
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Risk_ on June 25, 2019, 12:36:08 am
i like these CR ideas jolly and godfreid have + cohesion

+1
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: JollyCanadian on June 25, 2019, 01:07:19 am
i like these CR ideas jolly and godfreid have + cohesion

+1
I also +1 this statement great job Jolly and GotFried
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Theodin on June 25, 2019, 02:13:14 am
continue the tradition of amazing Canadian CR's boys
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: JollyCanadian on June 25, 2019, 04:27:28 am
continue the tradition of amazing Canadian CR's boys
Thanks uncle dad?
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Moraine on June 25, 2019, 12:17:52 pm
lol.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Fartknocker on June 26, 2019, 04:58:19 am
It's tough cause I like all of the candidates, but I think Jolly is the ideal candidate for CR.

Also, I think it would be great to run back the 4v4 league and have tournaments similar to avoid team stacking and creating some diversity. I also would like to see Godfreid's duel league return.

We gotta get the pubs involved with the rest of the community somehow and BBG running some events on their servers would be cool. Advertising BoB and BBG Duel in messages on Bot Survival would be cool if that isn't already being done too.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Thunderstormer on June 26, 2019, 08:17:21 am
Congrats to Blaze for winning.

NA voting is here.

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=42040.0
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: suns on June 26, 2019, 08:19:36 am
i miss the pros vs joes event
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: JollyCanadian on June 26, 2019, 03:18:48 pm
i miss the pros vs joes event
Probably gonna run that again
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Moraine on June 26, 2019, 06:20:37 pm
i miss the pros vs joes event
Probably gonna run that again
Their arent enough for it. You grossly over estimates casuals commitment to competitive events.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Fartknocker on June 26, 2019, 07:39:10 pm
i miss the pros vs joes event
Probably gonna run that again
Their arent enough for it. You grossly over estimates casuals commitment to competitive events.

The two that were done had tons of pubs there tho. Hey if the games too dead to do it then oh well there's always other shit to do too.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Blaze on June 26, 2019, 09:29:01 pm
Best of luck all NA candidates.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: suns on June 26, 2019, 09:53:55 pm
Quote
im not hosting rgl unless i get elected for CR - Lady Alicia Moraine
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Mexican on June 26, 2019, 09:59:28 pm
If you dont want the same ppl winning tournaments, try hosting on different servers.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: suns on June 26, 2019, 10:14:35 pm
dallas.

pings are +/- 10-20 with average being 40-50 range
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: JollyCanadian on June 26, 2019, 10:35:07 pm
i miss the pros vs joes event
Probably gonna run that again
Their arent enough for it. You grossly over estimates casuals commitment to competitive events.
You don't understand that the pubs want to do different events and they're always willing to try new things. There are constant events on bot survival and full invasion. And every event we do within bbg like pros vs Joe's and hunger games (both are competitive) get very high numbers. There's no reason to totally shut down the idea if you don't understand the interests of the real pubs
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Windflower on June 27, 2019, 01:30:13 am
It was me and duuring. Can't remember who pitched the idea first but the first convo of CR and how it would work was between me and duuring, so fuck off. Me and duuring were pretty close friends for a while, almost went to the netherlands to hangout with him.

Edit: You're welcome to ask him if you like, if he even remembers. It's not a big deal, but I don't like being accused of lying.

This post is cringe. Gluk you would not be a good CR if this is how you talk to Thunderstormer lol. You are very very out of touch with FSE and the community. (no offense)
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Fartknocker on June 27, 2019, 01:39:29 am
It was me and duuring. Can't remember who pitched the idea first but the first convo of CR and how it would work was between me and duuring, so fuck off. Me and duuring were pretty close friends for a while, almost went to the netherlands to hangout with him.

Edit: You're welcome to ask him if you like, if he even remembers. It's not a big deal, but I don't like being accused of lying.

This post is cringe. Gluk you would not be a good CR if this is how you talk to Thunderstormer lol. You are very very out of touch with FSE and the community. (offense intended go fuck yourself bitch)

Holy shit Wind relax bro.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Windflower on June 27, 2019, 01:46:10 am
It was me and duuring. Can't remember who pitched the idea first but the first convo of CR and how it would work was between me and duuring, so fuck off. Me and duuring were pretty close friends for a while, almost went to the netherlands to hangout with him.

Edit: You're welcome to ask him if you like, if he even remembers. It's not a big deal, but I don't like being accused of lying.

This post is cringe. Gluk you would not be a good CR if this is how you talk to Thunderstormer lol. You are very very out of touch with FSE and the community. (offense intended go fuck yourself bitch)

Holy shit Wind relax bro.
Spoiler
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/abadf9e42c692aa7be85e6f219634aa0/tenor.gif)
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Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Moraine on June 27, 2019, 02:20:18 am
i miss the pros vs joes event
Probably gonna run that again
Their arent enough for it. You grossly over estimates casuals commitment to competitive events.
You don't understand that the pubs want to do different events and they're always willing to try new things. There are constant events on bot survival and full invasion. And every event we do within bbg like pros vs Joe's and hunger games (both are competitive) get very high numbers. There's no reason to totally shut down the idea if you don't understand the interests of the real pubs
Very much mistaken, I've admined casual events since 2014. The Only thing I've ever seen casuals make up to do different is rulesets and a few campaign events aswell as maps to play on. But largely as you yourself know casuals despise competitive for certain reasons.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Sgt.Winters on June 27, 2019, 02:24:42 am
i miss the pros vs joes event
Probably gonna run that again
Their arent enough for it. You grossly over estimates casuals commitment to competitive events.
You don't understand that the pubs want to do different events and they're always willing to try new things. There are constant events on bot survival and full invasion. And every event we do within bbg like pros vs Joe's and hunger games (both are competitive) get very high numbers. There's no reason to totally shut down the idea if you don't understand the interests of the real pubs
Very much mistaken, I've admined casual events since 2014. The Only thing I've ever seen casuals make up to do different is rulesets and a few campaign events aswell as maps to play on. But largely as you yourself know casuals despise competitive for certain reasons.
Reasoning? Because they are SHIT.
Solution? make them not be SHIT.
Is that possible? Absolutely, positively, truthfully, unreservedly, NO.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: JollyCanadian on June 27, 2019, 02:26:43 am
i miss the pros vs joes event
Probably gonna run that again
Their arent enough for it. You grossly over estimates casuals commitment to competitive events.
You don't understand that the pubs want to do different events and they're always willing to try new things. There are constant events on bot survival and full invasion. And every event we do within bbg like pros vs Joe's and hunger games (both are competitive) get very high numbers. There's no reason to totally shut down the idea if you don't understand the interests of the real pubs
Very much mistaken, I've admined casual events since 2014. The Only thing I've ever seen casuals make up to do different is rulesets and a few campaign events aswell as maps to play on. But largely as you yourself know casuals despise competitive for certain reasons.
I think you're talking about casual regiment players. I'm talking about actual public players.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Glenn on June 27, 2019, 02:28:21 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBPCReCOpAM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG81q39BYJ0


pretty successful events if ya ask me
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: JollyCanadian on June 27, 2019, 02:32:21 am
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBPCReCOpAM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG81q39BYJ0


pretty successful events if ya ask me
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And if you concern is that the pubs won't want to do it constantly. This will not be every week or every other week. it is a once a month time event BUT there are many other events to do as well.
The goal isn't to get pubs to play comp. The goal is to get pubs, casual regiment players, and comp players involved in the same community. The FSE/NW community as a whole.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Mexican on June 27, 2019, 02:34:52 am
pub events and all other non-competitive stuff isn't fun jolly
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: JollyCanadian on June 27, 2019, 02:42:40 am
pub events and all other non-competitive stuff isn't fun jolly
oh oops.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Moraine on June 27, 2019, 02:53:06 am
pub events and all other non-competitive stuff isn't fun jolly
oh oops.
Except thats a dream not reality. Competitive and casual could never mix in the same events. Or atleast a majority we've seen that with casuals reactions to certain regiments like the 93rd a competitive regiment who did nothing but troll casual events and left a very bad taste in a lot of peoples mouths.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Theodin on June 27, 2019, 03:28:13 am
That’s the can-do attitude we love Moraine!
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Moraine on June 27, 2019, 03:34:04 am
That’s the can-do attitude we love Moraine!
Sorry i'm a realist. I don't make false promises like most politicians.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Fartknocker on June 27, 2019, 04:28:17 am
The 63e (a regiment) had the biggest and most successful NA server on the entire game for years. We recruited tons of people because of it, and when we would go there after events and form lines and actually use tactics, the pubs would follow along. We got plenty of recruits this way. When people see players in tags performing well and using teamwork it makes them want to join that group. The Pros vs Joe's event got the pubs hyped to compete against us and it was very successful. This game has been dying for a long time and bringing all the players left together is better than secluding the two remaining sides to this game.

Don't understand why it's such a big deal to want to TRY and bring the pubs into some cool events with us.

Also competitive and casual regiments used to attend the same events all the time lmao. Idk if they still do cause of how dead this game is, but it was never a problem in the past as far as I can remember.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: VetroG on June 27, 2019, 04:38:15 am
The 63e (a regiment) had the biggest and most successful NA server on the entire game for years. We recruited tons of people because of it, and when we would go there after events and form lines and actually use tactics, the pubs would follow along. We got plenty of recruits this way. When people see players in tags performing well and using teamwork it makes them want to join that group. The Pros vs Joe's event got the pubs hyped to compete against us and it was very successful. This game has been dying for a long time and bringing all the players left together is better than secluding the two remaining sides to this game.

Don't understand why it's such a big deal to want to TRY and bring the pubs into some cool events with us.

Also competitive and casual regiments used to attend the same events all the time lmao. Idk if they still do cause of how dead this game is, but it was never a problem in the past as far as I can remember.
You're 100% correct.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: StephanGH on June 27, 2019, 04:43:25 am
Well EU drew the short end of the stick.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Moraine on June 27, 2019, 05:05:16 am
The 63e (a regiment) had the biggest and most successful NA server on the entire game for years. We recruited tons of people because of it, and when we would go there after events and form lines and actually use tactics, the pubs would follow along. We got plenty of recruits this way. When people see players in tags performing well and using teamwork it makes them want to join that group. The Pros vs Joe's event got the pubs hyped to compete against us and it was very successful. This game has been dying for a long time and bringing all the players left together is better than secluding the two remaining sides to this game.

Don't understand why it's such a big deal to want to TRY and bring the pubs into some cool events with us.

Also competitive and casual regiments used to attend the same events all the time lmao. Idk if they still do cause of how dead this game is, but it was never a problem in the past as far as I can remember.
You're 100% correct.
The 63e alienated themselves from both comp and most casual events. They did their own thing which I can respect with their large ass regiment. But thats no longer the case anymore. Your bringing up memories not the facts of now.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Thunderstormer on June 27, 2019, 05:39:05 am
The 63e (a regiment) had the biggest and most successful NA server on the entire game for years. We recruited tons of people because of it, and when we would go there after events and form lines and actually use tactics, the pubs would follow along. We got plenty of recruits this way. When people see players in tags performing well and using teamwork it makes them want to join that group.
The 63e siege server was never the largest or most successful server for years. If you were to say it was one of the more successful servers, i would agree.   It followed a pretty consistent pattern of being active during steam sales, to get all the recruits possible, then die off not too long after the sale ended.  Admins would be rare  and trolls would be constant after the sales ended.  It was pretty obvious its main purpose was to be a giant recruiting platform.  Which is fine.  A lot/most regs used their server for that purpose.  There was a consistent pattern that i seen for years where it was active when new players were in abundance, then died off until the next sale.   It wasn't a consistently populated server.  There were a few times it broke the trend, but it eventually died off. 

On a side note, i hopped into the server a few times after a 63e event ended.  After the event, they would send the regiment into the server.     There would be 10, 20, or even 30 63e members just sitting in spec and not playing.  Many of them asking if they could leave yet.  The 63e used their large numbers to inflate the servers pop, as people like to join servers that are populated to get it going, then most of the reg would leave.  It was pretty effective.  It is a great way to get an empty or near empty server going.  It was a tool that most regs or groups wish they had. 

BBGs bot battle server, and even NA1 are or were the most consistently populated NA servers over the years.(BBGs bot server started in 2015 i think)  BBG is still going strong with several different servers.   NA1 died off 2 or so years ago. 

Im not going to speak for the EU servers, as i generally didn't play on them all that often.

Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: ~NickCole~ on June 27, 2019, 05:42:34 am
pub events and all other non-competitive stuff isn't fun jolly
oh oops.
Except thats a dream not reality. Competitive and casual could never mix in the same events. Or atleast a majority we've seen that with casuals reactions to certain regiments like the 93rd a competitive regiment who did nothing but troll casual events and left a very bad taste in a lot of peoples mouths.
Out of all the trolly comp regs you could of named you said 93rd okay someone salty still. Of course casual regs are gonna have hate towards good comp regs because the comp regs are usually veterans of the game that want to make casual events fun while these pub regs are serious af and sometimes boring. Also the comp regs just shit on everyone in melee which for some reason trigger some casual players.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: VetroG on June 27, 2019, 06:01:43 am
The 93rd weren't even that big of trolls in all honesty. The 93rd was pretty much serious most of the time, and yeah we sparked fun in the same old boring public events shoot, shoot, shoot, all charge you know? And like Nick said of course the smaller/noobier regiments aren't gonna like someone bigger/better than them (not bragging) but it's true. If you aren't gonna recognize anything we've done and just say we trolled at least recognize we brought 25+ every single event we did casual or competitive we helped your event numbers grow and add competition. There were also other regiments who trolled in public events it wasn't just 93rd.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Moraine on June 27, 2019, 06:26:31 am
pub events and all other non-competitive stuff isn't fun jolly
oh oops.
Except thats a dream not reality. Competitive and casual could never mix in the same events. Or atleast a majority we've seen that with casuals reactions to certain regiments like the 93rd a competitive regiment who did nothing but troll casual events and left a very bad taste in a lot of peoples mouths.
Out of all the trolly comp regs you could of named you said 93rd okay someone salty still. Of course casual regs are gonna have hate towards good comp regs because the comp regs are usually veterans of the game that want to make casual events fun while these pub regs are serious af and sometimes boring. Also the comp regs just shit on everyone in melee which for some reason trigger some casual players.
It was the most recent to come to mind I wasnt taking shots.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: ~NickCole~ on June 27, 2019, 06:32:35 am
pub events and all other non-competitive stuff isn't fun jolly
oh oops.
Except thats a dream not reality. Competitive and casual could never mix in the same events. Or atleast a majority we've seen that with casuals reactions to certain regiments like the 93rd a competitive regiment who did nothing but troll casual events and left a very bad taste in a lot of peoples mouths.
Out of all the trolly comp regs you could of named you said 93rd okay someone salty still. Of course casual regs are gonna have hate towards good comp regs because the comp regs are usually veterans of the game that want to make casual events fun while these pub regs are serious af and sometimes boring. Also the comp regs just shit on everyone in melee which for some reason trigger some casual players.
It was the most recent to come to mind I wasnt taking shots.
Understandable but surprised you didn’t say like 13thFL since when Pedro brings people to line battles with them most weeks (or use to play with a group)and troll hella hard. Yes I know that isn’t a real reg but everyone who lets him in their events act like it.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Moraine on June 27, 2019, 06:39:31 am
pub events and all other non-competitive stuff isn't fun jolly
oh oops.
Except thats a dream not reality. Competitive and casual could never mix in the same events. Or atleast a majority we've seen that with casuals reactions to certain regiments like the 93rd a competitive regiment who did nothing but troll casual events and left a very bad taste in a lot of peoples mouths.
Out of all the trolly comp regs you could of named you said 93rd okay someone salty still. Of course casual regs are gonna have hate towards good comp regs because the comp regs are usually veterans of the game that want to make casual events fun while these pub regs are serious af and sometimes boring. Also the comp regs just shit on everyone in melee which for some reason trigger some casual players.
It was the most recent to come to mind I wasnt taking shots.
Understandable but surprised you didn’t say like 13thFL since when Pedro brings people to line battles with them most weeks (or use to play with a group)and troll hella hard. Yes I know that isn’t a real reg but everyone who lets him in their events act like it.
13thFL are ok some days absolute trolls the next but your right
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Blaze on June 27, 2019, 06:49:27 am
Well EU drew the short end of the stick.
Renamed again?  ::)
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: suns on June 27, 2019, 06:51:44 am
uh pros vs joes was successful what
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Fartknocker on June 27, 2019, 07:16:03 am
The 63e (a regiment) had the biggest and most successful NA server on the entire game for years. We recruited tons of people because of it, and when we would go there after events and form lines and actually use tactics, the pubs would follow along. We got plenty of recruits this way. When people see players in tags performing well and using teamwork it makes them want to join that group.
The 63e siege server was never the largest or most successful server for years. If you were to say it was one of the more successful servers, i would agree.   It followed a pretty consistent pattern of being active during steam sales, to get all the recruits possible, then die off not too long after the sale ended.  Admins would be rare  and trolls would be constant after the sales ended.  It was pretty obvious its main purpose was to be a giant recruiting platform.  Which is fine.  A lot/most regs used their server for that purpose.  There was a consistent pattern that i seen for years where it was active when new players were in abundance, then died off until the next sale.   It wasn't a consistently populated server.  There were a few times it broke the trend, but it eventually died off. 

On a side note, i hopped into the server a few times after a 63e event ended.  After the event, they would send the regiment into the server.     There would be 10, 20, or even 30 63e members just sitting in spec and not playing.  Many of them asking if they could leave yet.  The 63e used their large numbers to inflate the servers pop, as people like to join servers that are populated to get it going, then most of the reg would leave.  It was pretty effective.  It is a great way to get an empty or near empty server going.  It was a tool that most regs or groups wish they had. 

BBGs bot battle server, and even NA1 are or were the most consistently populated NA servers over the years.(BBGs bot server started in 2015 i think)  BBG is still going strong with several different servers.   NA1 died off 2 or so years ago. 

Im not going to speak for the EU servers, as i generally didn't play on them all that often.

I know you and NA1 had a great run (and it definitely was pretty dead longer than 2 years ago) but the 63e's siege server was constantly at 180+ players for the first year that I was in the 63e which was 2014-2015. It was continuously populated for a long ass time after that also. I was also using this as an example to show Moraine that what he's been saying is not true.

But as for you saying it would die off after a sale, EVERY server would drop off in population. Also, after our events it was required for us to populate the siege server and there was players that didn't want to be there and they'd sit in spec until we were allowed to leave which was around 15 minutes. A lot of players would stay. We didn't start doing that until the game was starting to really show signs of dying too, so maybe like later in the summer of 2016 or early 2017. Fuck yeah we got a lot of recruits doing it too.

63e moved to another dying/dead game in Holdfast after that anyways.

For the sake of not wanting to deal with any further debate about dead servers, yeah maybe the 63e siege server wasn't the largest or most successful server for years. It definitely was one of the most successful servers in the entire game though.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Blaze on June 27, 2019, 07:27:05 am
Until you were allowed to leave?!
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: suns on June 27, 2019, 07:30:26 am
yeah na1 was dead a lot longer than 2 years ago i remember missing seeing it populated
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Fartknocker on June 27, 2019, 08:06:59 am
Until you were allowed to leave?!

Yeah it was only like 15 minutes and you had the choice to just stay in spectator instead of playing
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Thunderstormer on June 27, 2019, 10:31:06 am

I know you and NA1 had a great run (and it definitely was pretty dead longer than 2 years ago) but the 63e's siege server was constantly at 180+ players for the first year that I was in the 63e which was 2014-2015. It was continuously populated for a long ass time after that also. I was also using this as an example to show Moraine that what he's been saying is not true.

But as for you saying it would die off after a sale, EVERY server would drop off in population. Also, after our events it was required for us to populate the siege server and there was players that didn't want to be there and they'd sit in spec until we were allowed to leave which was around 15 minutes. A lot of players would stay. We didn't start doing that until the game was starting to really show signs of dying too, so maybe like later in the summer of 2016 or early 2017. Fuck yeah we got a lot of recruits doing it too.

63e moved to another dying/dead game in Holdfast after that anyways.

For the sake of not wanting to deal with any further debate about dead servers, yeah maybe the 63e siege server wasn't the largest or most successful server for years. It definitely was one of the most successful servers in the entire game though.
NA1 died off in 2017.  The final nail in the coffin i would say was Jan of 18.  It still got the rare play time since then.  Even had a mini reboot for a few days a month or 2 ago.(some old vets got on, like Deo) 

i do wish i was more aggressive with  improving NA1 after i became senior admin.   took me about 2 months to make mini games along with other admins.(partizani events ftw)  Took me about 10 months before i started map making for it.  Took me a few years(maybe 2.  it was so long ago) before i started  to learn scripting.  people enjoyed my maps for the most part.  People for the most part like my scripts. they included reviving,  god mode, admin privileges, writing when someone TW or TW/killed a friendly horse,  and friendly fire being off at rounds start and end.(plus other minor bug fixes) The latter probably removed most of our admining.  Alt tab tks were practically extinct.  Accidental TWs in spawn were gone.    many of those scripts were eventually found on other servers.  Getty's events being the main one.  Of course later they were added into the patches.  All of these are going to be in BCoF if i haven't already coded them in.    I am not sure if NA1s life span would of been longer or shorter with the above stuff done sooner.   Trouble makers would of been removed sooner, people teamkilled would of been revived.(horses healed)  There were probably a lot of people who were constantly teamkilling/teamwounding that got away with it.  There were some who didn't like the increase of admin knowledge into what was going on.(Like the writing of someone teamwounding)

Eh, i was going to make a response to the other stuff, but it's not important.  I do agree you got a lot of recruits from it.  I remember the new recruit lines you all had that were large.  The 29th use to have some similar sized lines.  I felt bad mowing them down on horseback or melee.   Was a nice way to get a high kill count.

It is a shame about holdfast.  I was hoping they would do well.  Maybe they can turn it around before its too late. 
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Eamon on June 27, 2019, 03:23:53 pm
Battle Cry of Freedom better not fuck me over
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: JollyCanadian on June 27, 2019, 04:45:37 pm
That’s the can-do attitude we love Moraine!
Sorry i'm a realist. I don't make false promises like most politicians.
I'm not promising that it'll work, there's no way to know if it will and if it does how long will it last? I'm not sure.
I'm going to be attempting to get everyone included. I'm not promising more comp players.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Woeski on June 27, 2019, 05:22:19 pm
We're all talking about NW, but anyone here who'd do something with the mods for it? I think it would be great to see some extra effort towards populating certain mods again, even if it's just for 1 weekly event. I'm working on Iron Europe already. I heard North and South & Red and Blue wars could use some extra attention too.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Shrooms on June 27, 2019, 05:33:06 pm
We're all talking about NW, but anyone here who'd do something with the mods for it? I think it would be great to see some extra effort towards populating certain mods again, even if it's just for 1 weekly event. I'm working on Iron Europe already. I heard North and South & Red and Blue wars could use some extra attention too.

I currently host a weekly NA mod event to try and give some of the mods some attention and I know Eu has one too. Nw can barely sustain itself idk how much focus a Cr can have on the pretty dead mods
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Woeski on June 27, 2019, 05:40:04 pm
Well they shouldn't focus on the already dead mods, but those who are building up a bit again.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: JollyCanadian on June 27, 2019, 06:09:08 pm
That's a great point. I got caught up thinking nw as the base game. Different style of events and doing new mods should be a focus. It would be awesome to see iron Europe come back I personally enjoyed it a lot. Shrooms I hope to do a public line for events like yours. Just gotta organize it first!
 
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Piktonss on June 27, 2019, 07:17:11 pm
That's a great point. I got caught up thinking nw as the base game. Different style of events and doing new mods should be a focus. It would be awesome to see iron Europe come back I personally enjoyed it a lot. Shrooms I hope to do a public line for events like yours. Just gotta organize it first!
If you actually want a proper weekly mod event prob in the best interest someone other then shrooms host it. His mod events are basically just 40 people doing whatever they want every round and nothing organized or proper.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Fartknocker on June 27, 2019, 07:56:50 pm
NW vs Zulus

Inject this into my veins
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: suns on June 27, 2019, 09:46:29 pm
yeah we need an nw vs zulus event

only problem now is the rarity of servers for the mod (last time i checked NA servers non-existent)
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: VetroG on June 27, 2019, 09:52:42 pm
And if needed we can always swap over one of our NW servers to the Zulu mod if that's possible.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Theodin on June 27, 2019, 11:02:45 pm
The biggest challenge for every single CR is keeping this community momentum going deep into the term. Everyone talks and acts to support the community for the first half and lose interest after 2 months
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: suns on June 27, 2019, 11:21:45 pm
The biggest challenge for every single CR is keeping this community momentum going deep into the term. Everyone talks and acts to support the community for the first half and lose interest after 2 months

inactivity +1
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: William on June 27, 2019, 11:52:08 pm
The candidate who promises an NA gaming house will receive my vote
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: ~NickCole~ on June 28, 2019, 12:20:28 am
The candidate who promises an NA gaming house will receive my vote
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: JollyCanadian on June 28, 2019, 12:33:21 am
And if needed we can always swap over one of our NW server to the Zulu mod if that's possible.
We have a few empty servers we can use
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Moraine on June 28, 2019, 04:19:33 am
NW Can't sustain itsself and mods.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: suns on June 28, 2019, 05:33:39 am
NW Can't sustain itsself and mods.

uh ok
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: JollyCanadian on June 28, 2019, 06:12:03 am
NW Can't sustain itsself and mods.
I don't know if I understand what you're wanting to get done as CR.
You've just been negative honestly and you don't want to try new things?

Please correct me if I'm wrong and I really don't mean any offense.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Windflower on June 28, 2019, 06:13:28 am
NW Can't sustain itsself and mods.
stop running for CR if you're inclined to be contempt with stagnancy
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Moraine on June 28, 2019, 07:37:06 am
NW Can't sustain itsself and mods.
stop running for CR if you're inclined to be contempt with stagnancy
Lmao. Love to see the gang up on me. Very funny but thats not going to work on me. Your trying old things that don't work. I would love to pull the "Why do you need CR to do any of this jolly" As windflower did to me. Again. Shrooms Modded event is as far as NW doing mods will ever go. Unitater also did a modded event on Wednesdays awhile back but it died eventually due to interest eventually falling in the mods. Wind you didn't do anything for casual events doing your run as CR you did what? A competitive league and tried to get something going with a cavalry league? It's honestly disgraceful how many of you are so disillusional in what you say your gonna do and what your actually able to do.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Windflower on June 28, 2019, 07:56:12 am
NW Can't sustain itsself and mods.
stop running for CR if you're inclined to be contempt with stagnancy
Wind you didn't do anything for casual events doing your run as CR you did what? A competitive league and tried to get something going with a cavalry league? It's honestly disgraceful how many of you are so disillusional in what you say your gonna do and what your actually able to do.
I mean pros vs joes is technically a casual event, I was more focused on getting casual players into competitive because that's where the core of the community resides. I also just wanted to circulate ideas of different events within the community and the cav league thing was something I just threw out and tried to discuss it but ye moved on. It's really weird how bipolar you are though one second you are complimenting me on my term and the next you are talking all this shit.. just relax man you're an adult, also wtf does disillusional mean lmao
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: suns on June 28, 2019, 08:38:20 am
they're not ganging up on you moraine it's blatant negativity in your posts which imply the message "there really is nothing to be done for cr and we're all doomed"
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Blaze on June 28, 2019, 10:04:43 am
NW Can't sustain itsself and mods.
This is honestly rubbish, I’m sorry but if you think this then you need to look at the bigger picture, I’ve planned mod events before and have some really good ideas coming hopefully I will be able to work with the NA CR and get some EU and NA mod events running. 
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: StephanGH on June 28, 2019, 10:21:55 am
Well EU drew the short end of the stick.
Renamed again?  ::)

Disbanded again? ::)

You were a bad candidate to begin with. Now you also left for a month+ and aren't even up to date.

Do you even still play this game?
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Blaze on June 28, 2019, 10:29:09 am
Over the next term I am planning to organize a few mod events back that I played in 2012 that were hosted by regiments from NW, I am free to be contacted by both causal and competitive regiments on whether they want to be involved as well as free to be contacted by casual and competitive players for any ideas they may have!

After the NA election ends I will be posting my term thread.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Woeski on June 28, 2019, 11:50:02 am
NW Can't sustain itsself and mods.
stop running for CR if you're inclined to be contempt with stagnancy
Lmao. Love to see the gang up on me. Very funny but thats not going to work on me. Your trying old things that don't work. I would love to pull the "Why do you need CR to do any of this jolly" As windflower did to me. Again. Shrooms Modded event is as far as NW doing mods will ever go. Unitater also did a modded event on Wednesdays awhile back but it died eventually due to interest eventually falling in the mods. Wind you didn't do anything for casual events doing your run as CR you did what? A competitive league and tried to get something going with a cavalry league? It's honestly disgraceful how many of you are so disillusional in what you say your gonna do and what your actually able to do.

Shrooms isn't the only one hosting mod events, some have done quite well. I am hoster of Iron Europe events, the developers of Red and Blue are also still hosting. These events get above 60 players very often. With some extra effort by a CR we can up these numbers even higher.

Bad thing is just when you do mod-rotation events. I'm not a fan of them, usually the regiments and players who attend don't know how to mod even works, but have no real intention of learning it better as they're only playing it for about an hour. I think events that stick with just one mod can develop a community for that mod which is far better than perhaps larger numbers but only 1 hour in a couple of weeks til the mod is going to be played again. Hope this made sense for someone here.
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: Theodin on June 28, 2019, 12:47:40 pm
NW Can't sustain itsself and mods.
stop running for CR if you're inclined to be contempt with stagnancy
Lmao. Love to see the gang up on me. Very funny but thats not going to work on me. Your trying old things that don't work. I would love to pull the "Why do you need CR to do any of this jolly" As windflower did to me. Again. Shrooms Modded event is as far as NW doing mods will ever go. Unitater also did a modded event on Wednesdays awhile back but it died eventually due to interest eventually falling in the mods. Wind you didn't do anything for casual events doing your run as CR you did what? A competitive league and tried to get something going with a cavalry league? It's honestly disgraceful how many of you are so disillusional in what you say your gonna do and what your actually able to do.
I understand being skeptical of CR promises, but since my terms no CR has promised the moon - instead it’s just been reasonable goals that have for the most part succeeded.
NW and mods are for sure sustainable - I would venture that NW has a stable player base at this point
Title: Re: 16th Election (July-Sept Term) - Candidates and Discussion
Post by: JollyCanadian on June 28, 2019, 01:16:15 pm
NW Can't sustain itsself and mods.
stop running for CR if you're inclined to be contempt with stagnancy
Lmao. Love to see the gang up on me. Very funny but thats not going to work on me. Your trying old things that don't work. I would love to pull the "Why do you need CR to do any of this jolly" As windflower did to me.
I don't need CR to do any of this. I've said multiple times on the thread and off thread to different people that I will try and do these things no matter what happens.
I'm not trying to gang up on you. I'm not trying to attack you. I only saw you shut down others ideas and have a negative attitude towards any ideas and towards Godfreid and I. We didnt promise that more people will join comp or join regiments. I want to try and bring both sides of the community together.

I know it's hard to understand through text because you can't hear my voice but I genuinely wanted you to explore more on the points you made in your initial post for CR, explain your plan in more detail so we can understand what different steps you'll take to try and benefit the whole community.

Windflower and I happened to post at the same time. I haven't talked to the dude in a month