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Title: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Duuring on June 18, 2014, 11:38:52 pm
So, today was the first day of Waterloo registration. As some of you might know, and some of you might not, it went disastrous. While I have not seen the document myself, I've heard from several who did that it's a badly written and unclear document, with a variety of stupid questions like 'How will you arrive, and at what hour exactly?'. As if we know that, a year in advance. Registration is individual, as opposed to with a group. Some say it's to scare away 'one-timers', but officials have said this is due to 'safety reasons'., On top of that, the site went down, presumably due to an overload of registration.

What we do know is that the event will be highly guarded - Re-enactors will get an armband that will be scanned before being allowed on to the battlefield. No armband, no entry on to the battlefield. People will also have background-checks run on them; once again, safety reasons. It would seem that a high amount of 'important' folk are going to spectate the battlefield, all of which are either related to some high duke present at the battle and therefor obviously necessary for the event, or politician and royals who suddenly care really much about this period and history in general.

We must arrive at 16 or 17 June, while the event doesn't start until the 18th, with only a 'memorial service'. 19th and 20th are battles and 21st is a parade. As one friend said 'It because means being an unpaid extra for 4 days in the most commercial event ever'.

Several people here already responded, but we have several Waterloo'ers that have not let themselves heard yet; most importantly our favorite Australian Zac - How are guys handling this out there? And in general; your opinions and expectations?
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Vincenzo on June 18, 2014, 11:41:58 pm
I looked through the form and formulated 12 questions of unclear selections or fields where it was not clear what to fill in.

these questions are now send off to the organisation by our groups events organiser.. Will see when reply comes in, and then still have to get the form up again to fill it in.
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Barnesy on June 18, 2014, 11:50:32 pm
I think in all honesty it's looking pretty bullshit right now. Yes it should be a commemoration, but the person in charge of the reenactment really hasn't thought it through, in putting the battles at 8pm on the 2 nights... it means that by the time we're all back in camp, it's going to be around midnight if we get stuck behind the redcoats at their slow pace. That in turn means no noise in camp as per reenactment SOPs, which will lead to a lot of very pissed off reenactors
I think it's been turned into a political event. Yes it's nice that the wiff-waff want to get involved, however, my unit have said it from the start, let the bloody reenactors organise the living history side of things, it would run a lot smoother that way.
Not seen the "individual" sign up yet, but I think thats a load of bollox too. Some might say it's to scare away 'one timers' but units now should've closed recruitment to anyone looking to do waterloo, our unit did in May. If anything, signing up as an individual, rather than as a unit is going to encourage the one timers, and people without units to come along thinking they're Sharpe. Yes safety checks need to be made, however over here in the UK you already have to have a billion safety checks made against you before they even consider giving you a gun license. Why not just keep with what's happened in the past, have unit commanders sign the guys up, and provide the relevant information there. I can see this going badly with one timers getting the nod, but old hands, like myself, potentially missing out because the system is a load of crap.
I'm hoping that this farce gets sorted asap because to make a mockery of the 200th of Waterloo is going to piss a whole lot of people off, just to brown nose with some royals and army bigwigs
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Barnesy on June 18, 2014, 11:52:09 pm
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Yep, its all politic stuff, also the signup thing was because of government wanted it well organized and signed up etc.
Pulled this over from the lets discuss thread, only just saw it

Vince you're right... but when in the past has the government EVER wanted anything to do with waterloo? lol it's stupid!
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: TWking on June 18, 2014, 11:59:04 pm
This is not looking good.
How did Gettysburg 150th(I think; late night = no maths+ no google) go. Did it have all this rubbish?
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: zac on June 19, 2014, 12:01:14 am
its early, and will post more when I wake up fully,i cant even get the page to load,invalid link, but from what ive heard..its shit, and I currently dont know what im gonna do atm....
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Vincenzo on June 19, 2014, 12:04:09 am
its a year before, for instance it was asking for my passport ID, My passport runs out in december this year so i will apply for one like in a few months, having a new passport ID... Ehm, now what?
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: zac on June 19, 2014, 12:07:04 am
Ye, ive been seeing alot of anger on FB, bloody belgians.... ;) :P , this isnt looking to good for Internationals, 7+ years of reenacting,waiting for this event...and Doubtful now be i ....
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Duuring on June 19, 2014, 12:09:30 am
its early, and will post more when I wake up fully,i cant even get the page to load,invalid link, but from what ive heard..its shit, and I currently dont know what im gonna do atm....

Get some tea and get back to us when you're awake.  :P

I would like to point out that there áre re-enactors involved in the organization, re-enactors who deserve the utmost respect (Ron van Dyck, Vince knows who I'm talking about), but they can of course do only that much. The local and Walloon government have been organizing this thing for years and still they a 'meh' job.

Also, ticket prices are trough the roof. 36 Euro for a seat and 16 for standing. And you have to get a ticket for every battle and the bivouac. So where last year you'd pay 9 euro to see everything, in 2015 you will have to pay up at least 30.
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Barnesy on June 19, 2014, 12:12:39 am
Ron organised hoogstraten didn't he?
He did a bloody good job I have to admit. They should let him get on with it and do it properly, not in a way that'll get the events nose well and truly covered in shit from all the brown nosing they're looking to do to the posh twats and politicians who are suddenly interested in this historic occasion
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Duuring on June 19, 2014, 12:13:38 am
Yeah, he did. He's awesome. He has the nickname 'Godfather of Re-enactment', and boy, that one is deserved.
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: zac on June 19, 2014, 12:14:19 am
*tea and biscuit* how did you know ;)

Ye,got him on FB :)

Ye, I can see what they are trying to do I think, but the problem is also with the very idea of individual registration, we do that here, and it hardly works well with under 200 reenactors...And our questions are sensible atleast, from what ive heard on the various FB groups, the registration will  be back up on 23rd, so we will have to see what gets changed etc.

The rego was apparently asking for alot of question that people dont have at the moment, especcially ones that internationals wont know, ye this is looking shit lol...
 
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Vincenzo on June 19, 2014, 12:18:31 am
That organizer is a bloody legend, Hoogstraten best organized event ever.

But yes, this thing is gona be a mess, only reason you will go is because its so big and so many reenactors, but if you will have that much fun, not entirely sure.
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Barnesy on June 19, 2014, 12:21:07 am
*tea and biscuit* how did you know ;)

Ye,got him on FB :)

Ye, I can see what they are trying to do I think, but the problem is also with the very idea of individual registration, we do that here, and it hardly works well with under 200 reenactors...And our questions are sensible atleast, from what ive heard on the various FB groups, the registration will  be back up on 23rd, so we will have to see what gets changed etc.

The rego was apparently asking for alot of question that people dont have at the moment, especcially ones that internationals wont know, ye this is looking shit lol...
From what I hear it's asking travel details etc. I'm sorry but I have no idea when in the day I will be arriving or what time that day I will be going to one of the portaloos to take a shit! Add to that I will have a new shotgun and explosives license so they won't tally up either it bodes well for me.
One thing I didn't comment on was the thing about armbands. They expect us to wear them do they. So all the official photos of the muster into the field will see thousands of reenactors with armbands on. Woop we iz gonna look so cool. Hopefully they look period correct!
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: zac on June 19, 2014, 12:22:24 am
Red with little swastikas?
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Vincenzo on June 19, 2014, 12:23:35 am
We had armbands in Leipzig, they did not show up on photos under your collars.

But they did not check for the armbands at all.
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Barnesy on June 19, 2014, 12:24:27 am
Red with little swastikas?
Oh dear haha if they're asking for when I'm arriving and what time I intend to shit then most likely
That organizer is a bloody legend, Hoogstraten best organized event ever.

But yes, this thing is gona be a mess, only reason you will go is because its so big and so many reenactors, but if you will have that much fun, not entirely sure.
Agreed it ran so well! Sensible times for battles, good living history and good down time. Only downside was space. If one tent had gone up in flames the entire camp was a goner
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Duuring on June 19, 2014, 12:33:25 am
I hope they have one like in Leipzig. You could do those a little higher up your arm, tighten it, and cover it up just fine.
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Mr T on June 19, 2014, 12:55:05 am
Sounds pretty damn shite, you can't trust a Belgian to organize the alphabet let alone a re-enactment event. String em up I say! Vive la Nation!

If they go on like this, 2015 will be a colossal disaster. Especially if the timetable isn't changed, as Barnsey said, a battle at 8pm is ludicrous.
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Duuring on June 19, 2014, 12:57:07 am
I'd be very surprised of they change anything about the time-table. They probably have the tickets printed out already.
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Barnesy on June 19, 2014, 12:58:22 am
Shame. I was planning to be pissed out of my face at 8pm ;)
They better give us shit loads of powder to burn then! And have several powder issue points. One per brigade maybe. Else we will be there all day!
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Duuring on June 19, 2014, 01:05:06 am
Ha. They'll probably just give a minimum due to 'safety' reasons.
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Mr T on June 19, 2014, 01:05:55 am
They'll tell everyone to shave all facial hair for safety reasons
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Barnesy on June 19, 2014, 01:06:44 am
We'll all be shouting bang. Rocket troop will go "wheeeeeeee pop" and cannon will shout "boom"
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Barnesy on June 19, 2014, 01:07:43 am
Ha. They'll probably just give a minimum due to 'safety' reasons.
I remember 2011 my unit ended up with essentially 1.5kg per man per battle. Boy did we burn some powder that weekend!
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Mr T on June 19, 2014, 01:08:31 am
At the order "bayonet au canon" we'll fix feathers instead and tickle each other to death!
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Duuring on June 19, 2014, 01:12:24 am
They'll tell everyone to shave all facial hair for safety reasons

You may hide a bomb in that moustache.

They've been okay with powder issuing previous years, I believe. But so much has changed. Who knows what might happen.
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Mr T on June 19, 2014, 01:14:31 am
I'm sure they'll give out party poppers and fire crackers
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Barnesy on June 19, 2014, 01:17:43 am
What winds me up most is the whole VIP thing. These people really haven't given a shit in the past but it'll be a big PR event for them. I can just imagine it now, David Cameron giving a speech as to how all the British soldiers are an inspiration that should be looked upon by today's younger generations. When to be perfectly frank the young generation generally knows sweet FA about Waterloo and the napoleonic wars in general because emphasis is put too much on the world wars, the Romans and the Tudors in British schools
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: zac on June 19, 2014, 01:18:40 am
We once ran out of ammunition...frogs charged us..we presented, shouted fire, we all shouted BANG, le Poof!! and the french died..the public loved it, and we all couldnt stop laughing....hehe
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Barnesy on June 19, 2014, 01:21:27 am
We once ran out of ammunition...frogs charged us..we presented, shouted fire, we all shouted BANG, le Poof!! and the french died..the public loved it, and we all couldnt stop laughing....hehe
I usually rounds complete. Feel it's a waste of good powder not to lol
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Mr T on June 19, 2014, 01:22:39 am
What winds me up most is the whole VIP thing. These people really haven't given a shit in the past but it'll be a big PR event for them. I can just imagine it now, David Cameron giving a speech as to how all the British soldiers are an inspiration that should be looked upon by today's younger generations. When to be perfectly frank the young generation generally knows sweet FA about Waterloo and the Napoleonic wars in general because emphasis is put too much on the world wars, the Romans and the Tudors in British schools

Very true, its sad how poorly educated people are becoming, I overheard a girl in like year 9 or 10 who thought The Netherlands was the land from Peter Pan....its funny but also, reaaaally worrying :/

Anglo centricity will be through the roof I expect next year from a few people, especially with Cornwell's upcoming book, which I intend to purchase in order to use it slowly as kindling and fuel for the fire!
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Duuring on June 19, 2014, 01:23:37 am
. I can just imagine it now, David Cameron giving a speech as to how all the British soldiers are an inspiration that should be looked upon by today's younger generations.

Yeah, uneducated criminals in a uniform who are drunk 95% of the time, with snobby officers that don't give fucks about them, sure are a great inspiration to us all.  :P


Anglo centricity will be through the roof I expect next year from a few people, especially with Cornwell's upcoming book, which I intend to purchase in order to use it slowly as kindling and fuel for the fire!

Yes! Yes! Mr_T, I cherish these words. Blesss yoouuuu!
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Barnesy on June 19, 2014, 01:25:49 am
. I can just imagine it now, David Cameron giving a speech as to how all the British soldiers are an inspiration that should be looked upon by today's younger generations.

Yeah, uneducated criminals in a uniform who are drunk 95% of the time, with snobby officers that don't give fucks about them, sure are a great inspiration to us all.  :P
The bit about snobby officers who don't give a fuck about the commoners sounds so much like politicians I'm surprised they've not registered to lead the armies haha
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Mr T on June 19, 2014, 01:27:12 am
BORIS JOHNSON AS GENERAL PICTON!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Duuring on June 19, 2014, 01:34:48 am
With that hair? Nah. Don't you have a Naggy old Welshman, hidden somewhere in your parliament?
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Olafson on June 19, 2014, 02:58:24 am
I dont get the battle at 8pm thing.
That sounds horrible. Who would ever do that?

And yeh, I am certain that there will be some stupid high ranking people/politicians/whatever present. That and the organisation being made by people who dont know shit about reenactment probably caused all that security bullshit. Maybe they are scared that someone wants to shoot a politician with a musket, or something.
Or load a cannon with grapeshot...

It is gonna take hours to get everyone on the battlefield, and it is gonna take hours to get everyone off the battlefield. Now, if the battle is at 8pm, that means that you have to eat dinner either really early or really late, and that after the battle you can basically go sleep. That sounds stupid.

About the powder, you never know. If the security really is as bad as it seams to be, I would not be surprised if there is only a minimum of powder available. I guess bringing your own powder, or making your own powder wont be allowed either.

TBH, I am quite scared that a lot of people won't be accepted to the event because of all that stupid background checks and what not. One wrong word in the formula, one thing they do not like and youre out. I am also scared that they will not allow younger people (and/or people who are new to the hobby) in, simply because they are not mature enough (or do not have the experience) and therefore can not be trusted. You know, by law people can only be trusted when they are atleast 18. So it might end up in the experienced guys being accepted and the young guys having to stay home, which is completely retarded.




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Post by: DeoVindice61 on June 19, 2014, 03:15:12 am
Sound like Fascism exist in Europe.  Lemme get America to liberate you for the 3rd time.
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Post by: munky-wunky on June 19, 2014, 05:28:04 am
this is there a link so we could see it?
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Post by: Vorposten on June 19, 2014, 06:42:50 am
Battles at 8pm? Sound like some sort of: Let's do it like the TV does:
From morning to Evening "Reallife" of the soldiers and at 8pm the "Blockbuster" Battle

And If the thing with the registrations is true, they won't get more people on the field than in Leipzig....
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: zac on June 19, 2014, 07:07:34 am
Anyone up for a meetup in france, then invade Belgium? Duuring you can lead the troops from the North in the Netherlands?

Anyway, its odd, because D Division (1st International, Aussie Allied etc) just got themselves registered today,70 people from Downunder all up lol :'( (not including 42nd etc as their in the Highland Brigade)
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Millander on June 19, 2014, 07:12:17 am
This is not looking good.
How did Gettysburg 150th(I think; late night = no maths+ no google) go. Did it have all this rubbish?

Nah man shit was a breez.

btw digging the Civil War Artillery crew on the site.

(https://i.gyazo.com/ac29ad6deca7d78947bc0437fef04dd8.png)
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Post by: DeoVindice61 on June 19, 2014, 07:14:22 am
 ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)    Must.......not..........heckle.........napoleonics.
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: zac on June 19, 2014, 07:14:56 am
Ye, we all noticed that lol
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Vincenzo on June 19, 2014, 07:54:21 am
Don't blame the Napoleonic reenactment scene, the problem is Belgians, Belgians politicians are unable to manage even getting a government after a vote, last time it took them about a year.
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Barnesy on June 19, 2014, 12:03:29 pm
Anyone up for a meetup in france, then invade Belgium? Duuring you can lead the troops from the North in the Netherlands?

Anyway, its odd, because D Division (1st International, Aussie Allied etc) just got themselves registered today,70 people from Downunder all up lol :'( (not including 42nd etc as their in the Highland Brigade)

BIB it's not just highlanders in C Brigade (it's gone correct now, D Div should henceforth be known as D Brigade (brigade smaller than Division after all)). C Brigade also has a fair number of other units that aren't highlanders (although they do make up a large number of the Brigade) Not sure who'll be leading C Bde next year :( General Her Royal Highness Queen Michael Haynes (In joke there) is now in charge of all British Forces at Waterloo so we're currently without commander :( Bring it on though!

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I dont get the battle at 8pm thing.
That sounds horrible. Who would ever do that?
The Belgians obviously! More specifically the Politicians who want it tucked out of the way at night so that they and all the VIPs can have their champagne dinner beforehand
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: zac on June 19, 2014, 12:10:49 pm
The Honourable Mr Michael Haynes should be addressed as His Royal highness in the future ;)
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Post by: Vorposten on June 19, 2014, 12:13:14 pm
(brigade smaller than Division after all)
Luckily we prussians only had Brigades (1 Brigade planned for Waterloo 2015)
All in all we try to form a brigade :D
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Barnesy on June 19, 2014, 12:15:55 pm
Michael Haynes should be addressed as His Royal highness in the future ;)

Noo it's Her Royal Highness! For he is a Queen on many levels :P At hoogstraten I went to get him onto the field during brigade drill. The rifles formed up on either side of the road, with Major of Brigade in the centre of the road ready to salute. As he approached we got the command "Rifles Shoulder arms" and then as he got level "QUEENSGUARD PRESEEEEEEEEEEEEENT ARMS!" the look we got was hilarious. Think Captain Mainwaring's stupid boy look. We can get away with it with Haynesy though seeing as he is our CO
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Post by: joer5835 on June 19, 2014, 12:18:42 pm
The problem is that they can do anything, and people will still come. Because it's bloody fekking Waterloo, who doesn't want to miss Waterloo 1815-2015? Hell, even if we have to sleep in the dirt and eat grass for dinner we would still come, because it's Waterloo.
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Barnesy on June 19, 2014, 12:22:11 pm
(brigade smaller than Division after all)
Luckily we prussians only had Brigades (1 Brigade planned for Waterloo 2015)
All in all we try to form a brigade :D
I think there's currently going to be 4/5 "British" Brigades (Yeah yeah I know it's not just british but my brain isn't fully awake yet) The 3 usual suspects, A,B and C, then as Zac said there's D, and I'm sure I heard somewhere that some of the reeeeeeeeeeally anal british units are forming their own brigade as well
What I'm worried about is the event might just turn into a big queue with each unit waiting it's turn to fire a volley and then going to the back. I'm hoping it'll flow a bit more than that, would be lovely to see the lights go forward as one and form a skirmish screen that stretches from the Lion Mound right across to the Wood by Hougoumont! That was my other slight gripe with Hoogstraten tbh, the battlefield was bloody tiny
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Post by: Vorposten on June 19, 2014, 12:51:25 pm
would be lovely to see the lights go forward as one and form a skirmish screen that stretches from the Lion Mound right across to the Wood by Hougoumont!
You mean like this: ?
big picture of the light in line
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fecho.de%2FGruppen%2FBilder%2F9Franz-02-G.jpg&hash=3b4c977d9d5a0551eb33d92bdf57c7bda96b37ab)
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(https://abload.de/img/856838_3482930767433_bqchg.jpg)

What I'm worried about is the event might just turn into a big queue with each unit waiting it's turn to fire a volley and then going to the back.

I don't know how big a british brigade actually is, but refering to Leizpig, the fight above the bridge was very hard, because 3 brigades were there on a small part of the field, and the frenchies doesn't retreat...
To my mind, the fight on waterloo will be more static.
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Barnesy on June 19, 2014, 12:59:08 pm
The problem is that they can do anything, and people will still come. Because it's bloody fekking Waterloo, who doesn't want to miss Waterloo 1815-2015? Hell, even if we have to sleep in the dirt and eat grass for dinner we would still come, because it's Waterloo.
Veeeeeery true!
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Post by: Mr T on June 19, 2014, 01:19:23 pm
and the frenchies doesn't retreat...

Oi! We were told our brigade was supposed to stay on your side of the river to be cut off when the bridge blew! Your Austrian buddies refused to let us back over to fulfill our part of the script  >:(
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Vorposten on June 19, 2014, 01:29:31 pm
Oi! We were told our brigade was supposed to stay on your side of the river to be cut off when the bridge blew! Your Austrian buddies refused to let us back over to fulfill our part of the script  >:(

It seems the coordination between french and Allied doesn't be that good over the events...
But that are plans: They are correct until the first shoot.  ;D

Hopefully, Waterloo will be better...
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Post by: Barnesy on June 19, 2014, 01:35:22 pm
would be lovely to see the lights go forward as one and form a skirmish screen that stretches from the Lion Mound right across to the Wood by Hougoumont!
You mean like this: ?
big picture of the light in line
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fecho.de%2FGruppen%2FBilder%2F9Franz-02-G.jpg&hash=3b4c977d9d5a0551eb33d92bdf57c7bda96b37ab)
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(https://abload.de/img/856838_3482930767433_bqchg.jpg)

What I'm worried about is the event might just turn into a big queue with each unit waiting it's turn to fire a volley and then going to the back.

I don't know how big a british brigade actually is, but refering to Leizpig, the fight above the bridge was very hard, because 3 brigades were there on a small part of the field, and the frenchies doesn't retreat...
To my mind, the fight on waterloo will be more static.
Exactly like that! unfortunately the some of the rifle regiments in the UK don't want to work together for political reasons..sigh.. so it'll never really happen :(
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Duuring on June 19, 2014, 01:36:38 pm
Zac, if you have been told that your entire brigade has been registered as a group, well, I'm afraid you've been lied too. It's been made very clear to us that that's impossible, and that individual registration is the only way.

The site is also still off, so I don't really understand how you guys could have possible signed up today.
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Barnesy on June 19, 2014, 01:40:48 pm
I think our unit is doing a unit sign up, our QM department will be getting all the details off all of us to make sure none of us miss out. It'll help that I believe the British Camp is being run by our QM department!
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Duuring on June 19, 2014, 01:42:56 pm
You can't do a unit sign up. Well, you could, but that would mean one guy would fill in all the individual registration forms which seems like an unnecessary amount of work.
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Barnesy on June 19, 2014, 01:44:29 pm
You can't do a unit sign up. Well, you could, but that would mean one guy would fill in all the individual registration forms which seems like an unnecessary amount of work.
If the QM department are willing to do that, I'm not complaining! lol
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Duuring on June 19, 2014, 01:45:23 pm
It wouldn't be any less work, only more. You'd still have the give that guy all the information you'd fill in yourself.
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Post by: Barnesy on June 19, 2014, 02:14:40 pm
It wouldn't be any less work, only more. You'd still have the give that guy all the information you'd fill in yourself.
That's true, I think the reasoning behind it is so that the entire unit gets registered, rather than saying here's the link go do it... only for one person to say, I'll do it in a bit and then forgetting to do so
Title: Re: Waterloo 2015 - Well well well...
Post by: Duuring on June 19, 2014, 02:28:29 pm
Then you have lazy members xD
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Post by: Barnesy on June 19, 2014, 03:01:07 pm
Then you have lazy members xD
Haha I think every unit has them!
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Post by: zac on June 19, 2014, 03:26:04 pm
*raises hand*
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Post by: joer5835 on June 19, 2014, 03:50:23 pm
Haven't heard anything from my unit about registering personally either, perhaps some one has too much spare time and is doing it for all of us....?
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Post by: Duuring on June 19, 2014, 03:51:11 pm
Don't think so.

I've seen some people posting on facebook that even if they don't get accepted, they'll still go. Guys, seriously, no, you won't. The freaking Militairy Police is going to secure both the camp and the battle. If you don't sign up, you won't get a armband and you won't be allowed entry on to the battlefield or the camp.
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Post by: joer5835 on June 19, 2014, 03:56:03 pm
Just what the hell, I thought this was supposed to be a hobby you do for fun.
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Post by: Barnesy on June 19, 2014, 04:12:15 pm
It is, until the politicians get involved and make it political

Knew the army would try and jump on the bandwagon...  over here aside from the Soldiers Charity, the army has had very little to do with any of the Peninsular War or Waterloo commemorations, until this. It's frustrating that all of a sudden they're going to be wanting to get their guys in kit (I can honestly see this happening) so they can have a go on the field as well.
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Post by: Duuring on June 19, 2014, 04:13:40 pm
Same here with the cavalry. Suddenly all these military riders who haven't joined a re-enactment in 6 years are coming back for 2015.
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Post by: Barnesy on June 19, 2014, 10:29:52 pm
The only good thing that's coming of it so far is that Haynesy is going to have a pipe and drum band in C Brigade! Cannot wait to be marching behind that
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Post by: munky-wunky on June 20, 2014, 12:03:00 am
if I learned anything from Gettysburg 150th. If your having registration problems then the event itself is gonna be chaotic
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Post by: Devmc99 on June 21, 2014, 05:36:33 am
I have an amazing idea for Waterloo 2015:

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/ekxZkPB.jpg)
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Black Napoleon :D
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Post by: Barnesy on June 22, 2014, 11:32:36 am
They haven't announced who's going to be napoleon or Wellington yet have they?
I've got an idea who Wellington will be. Met him at The Lord Mayors parade last year. Nice guy
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Post by: Mr T on June 22, 2014, 11:50:55 am
Napoleon will likely be Frank Samson I imagine, he's been Napoleon at Leipzig and at all the Bicentenaries in France so far, dunno though.
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Post by: joer5835 on June 22, 2014, 12:13:33 pm
They haven't announced who's going to be napoleon or Wellington yet have they?
I've got an idea who Wellington will be. Met him at The Lord Mayors parade last year. Nice guy

BUT!

Does he have the nose for it?
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Post by: Barnesy on June 22, 2014, 12:18:47 pm
Pretty much, yes
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Post by: zac on June 23, 2014, 02:11:58 pm
Well...registered with  D Division\ First international Corps from Australia for Waterloo and Ligny ...so looks like no Frog next year...British 102nd (NSW Corps) Colonials hurra....  and for Ligny going Pomeranian Landwehr
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Post by: Barnesy on June 23, 2014, 04:53:40 pm
Awesome nice one. I haven't done so yet, although might do later... what sort of stuff does it ask. I'm currently planning what time I'm going to have a shit so if they ask that I can respond... wouldn't want the VIPs needing to go potty when I've got my trousers round my ankles
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Post by: Vorposten on June 23, 2014, 06:18:09 pm
Road to Waterloo
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t31.0-8/10446233_657221074347877_8022524020627940841_o.jpg)
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But, seriously: if this registration thing with only arrival on tuesday/wednesday, than I will go only to Ligny, otherwise I come only to Waterloo :P
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Post by: Vincenzo on June 23, 2014, 09:47:35 pm
Then better start siging up for ligny, cause you have to arrive then.
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Post by: Barnesy on June 23, 2014, 10:14:54 pm
So those who have signed up... what information will I require to register for waterloo?
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Post by: Mr T on June 23, 2014, 10:35:44 pm
The fucking registration is shite, unbelievable. Theres a thing simply saying "Rifle", they asking me if I'm bringing one or using one!?!?


RIFLE WHAT YOU BELGIAN TWAT!?!?
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Post by: Duuring on June 23, 2014, 11:06:59 pm
I'm pretty sure they presume that everybody who uses a rifle brings their own.
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Post by: DeoVindice61 on June 23, 2014, 11:10:40 pm
LOlolololol. Folks in US have it backward. They call our rifles, "muskets".
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Post by: Mr T on June 23, 2014, 11:11:37 pm
Its so poorly done its ridiculous.
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Post by: zac on June 23, 2014, 11:58:42 pm
Yep, wanted Visa it seems to, I dont know exatcly what day im arriving?! :/ and then passport info hurra, Anyway, see what happens
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Post by: Barnesy on June 24, 2014, 12:11:44 am
I plan on arriving at 10.32:47am precisely... Need to check my passport as it expires next year, and my licenses do as well... so the number they want for licenses will be different on the day... ah well
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Post by: Vorposten on June 24, 2014, 06:36:12 am
Then better start siging up for ligny, cause you have to arrive then.
Haven't found any information about program or registration, so I don't have a plan yet :D

Wow, Is the sign in for Waterloo really this bad?
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Post by: zac on June 24, 2014, 06:46:43 am
Ligny can be done as a unit registration, Im in for it

and yep
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Post by: Vorposten on June 24, 2014, 07:10:34 am
Ligny can be done as a unit registration, Im in for it

I've fund the rgistration form and it seems to be very pacient... Besides there are some things in French and I have to think of, why there is Infanterie Linge and Infanterie Garde, but no Light Infantry or Skirmishers????

I would also like to see a propgramm for Ligny: http://www.ligny1815.be/programme.html

I also found the registration form for Waterloo 2015.... Arrival on tuesday, wednesday and Thursday.... But not on Friday????
And what should that be with the time-periods? If I come at 10:01 pm, I can go home because I am to late????

Hmm, I will think of, what I will do... :/
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Post by: Duuring on June 24, 2014, 12:23:14 pm
Remember, it's only a pre-registration. God knows if anything is official. I'm just gonna pick a date at random and fuck them if they complain I'm a day too late or early.
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Post by: Barnesy on June 24, 2014, 01:07:53 pm
Remember, it's only a pre-registration. God knows if anything is official. I'm just gonna pick a date at random and fuck them if they complain I'm a day too late or early.
Exactly, most travel arrangements will be made closer to the time. I have no idea what day I'm going to be travelling (well I kind of do but it's subject to change) and I don't know the registration of the car I'll be in. All I know is that 1. I'll be there at some point, and 2. I'll be leaving at some point
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Post by: Duuring on June 24, 2014, 01:09:51 pm
The Belgian King is coming to watch, apparently.

God damn Farbs. Belgium didn't exist back then! Gaaaaaaaaaaawd.
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Post by: joer5835 on June 24, 2014, 01:21:10 pm
Oh great, he's coming too? That means the camp will be surrounded by 5000 bodyguards just because he's there, great job Belgium.
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Post by: Barnesy on June 24, 2014, 01:26:30 pm
My money will be on Britain sending prince William as the queens representative wouldn't mind that.
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Post by: Wigster600 on June 24, 2014, 01:35:01 pm
The Belgian King is coming to watch, apparently.

God damn Farbs. Belgium didn't exist back then! Gaaaaaaaaaaawd.
Belgium has a king? I know the Netherlands have a royal family but I wasn't aware Belgium did. ???
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Post by: Olafson on June 24, 2014, 02:05:56 pm
Yeh Hitler is coming too.
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Post by: Duuring on June 24, 2014, 02:06:44 pm
The Belgian King is coming to watch, apparently.

God damn Farbs. Belgium didn't exist back then! Gaaaaaaaaaaawd.
Belgium has a king? I know the Netherlands have a royal family but I wasn't aware Belgium did. ???

Yeah. That's why it's called the Kingdom of Belgium, genius  :P They're the Saxen-Coburg dynasty.
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Post by: Wigster600 on June 24, 2014, 04:32:03 pm
The Belgian King is coming to watch, apparently.

God damn Farbs. Belgium didn't exist back then! Gaaaaaaaaaaawd.
Belgium has a king? I know the Netherlands have a royal family but I wasn't aware Belgium did. ???

Yeah. That's why it's called the Kingdom of Belgium, genius  :P They're the Saxen-Coburg dynasty.
Lol, i've never heard it called the Kingdom of Belgium.  :P
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Post by: Barnesy on June 25, 2014, 12:05:51 am
Thought I'd post this in here in case anyone hasn't yet seen it
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An Open Letter to the chairmen of various associations: NA, NAN and NG
Gentlemen,
as a member of the NA, the NAN and the NG and having great concerns about the way some things for Waterloo 200 are handled by the belgian organisation and having heard many similair concerns from future participants from allover Europe I write youthis open Letter as I hope that only the main associations in cooperation can prevaile a failure
1. Campfollowers.
Many groups around the napoleonic reenactment have, although displaying military, female member, socalled "campfollowers". Members that pay their contribution same as the soldiers and doing a great part of the things that are done in a camp. Some even do things during the periods between events, such as sewing , repairing or taking care of the administration of their groups. They have the same rights and same duties within their groups.
Now the number of campfollowers is about to be restricted to 1 to10.
How can a group leave any of their members at home? By what right? Apart from this rule being discriminating, its also extremly injust. I cannot see any person having the right within an association to say: you and you can not come to Waterloo.
I ope you will be able to convince the belgian organizers to find a solution is such a way, that those who came all those years before can still come and add to camplife and the event as before.
2. The Battles
These are planned 2 times , both in the evening. I have the following concerns:
- When the weather is bad, as it has often been in June in Waterloo, it will be dark mch earlier then 22.00
- Many participants from the UK and europeen mainland will arrive the friday, due to work and real life. So they are to go into battle directly after a long drive, putting up tent and hastly making some supper.
- In the earlier events at Waterloo we had the chance of doing manoevering and drill before the battle.Which is important esp when we have new groups or groups that have never worked together earlier. Waterloo 200 we will have many from overseas countries with whome we have either never or hardly ever worked with together. Having the first battle already the friday evening gives the commanders no time at all to have their troups drilled or trained in the planned mix of european and oversees participants.
-What are the reenactors to do on the sunday? AsI fear most will leave, when from the continent, directly after breakfast, as there is nothing more for them to do, not all can afford a monday off, and the amount they maybe get as travell money is not yet clear and I have the experience that those that want to go, will leave. So visitors are confrontated with people carying their kit to the cars, and there is no camplife as promised in the programm.
We al know that the event is a costly one. And a part of the money will come from paying visitors.
Only , as far as many reenactors I speak are concerned, no where in the whole set up of the programm the needs of the reenactors ,who are pro deo actors with their own very expensive equipment, are regarded in the way it should be.
I have the hope that you, as presidents of your associations, in a combined action or meeting with the belgians, can have influence in such a way that matters will take a better course, now that there is still nearly a year tme to set things right.
As tis is an open letter I will post it within my group. Your answers will remain confidential ofcourse,
Kind regards
Donald Meulemans
Gordon Highlanders Grenadier Company
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Post by: Vincenzo on June 25, 2014, 12:19:10 am
So many grammatical and spelling errors, it's not helping much.

Ofcource he is right but he could have explained some things better..

Also arriving on Friday is out of the question anyway, he might aswell not show up then.
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Post by: Colonel Howe on June 25, 2014, 12:39:34 am
#EuroProblems
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Post by: Duuring on June 25, 2014, 02:12:05 am
So many grammatical and spelling errors, it's not helping much.

Ofcource he is right but he could have explained some things better..

Also arriving on Friday is out of the question anyway, he might aswell not show up then.

Don is German/Dutch and probably wrote this pretty quickly.

The message is getting trough, anyway.
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Post by: zac on June 25, 2014, 02:13:46 am
Yep, lets hope it does something :) otherwise we invade belgium...and take the waffles...
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Post by: Duuring on June 25, 2014, 02:15:02 am
WATERLOO FREE STATE!
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Post by: zac on June 25, 2014, 02:26:52 am
^_^ Huehuehue
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Post by: Vincenzo on June 25, 2014, 04:56:31 am
Referendum! Referendum!
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Post by: joer5835 on June 25, 2014, 01:11:26 pm
Anyone else also recieved a complaint email from the NAN?
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Post by: Barnesy on June 25, 2014, 07:28:47 pm
Nope. What's it about?
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Post by: munky-wunky on June 25, 2014, 08:38:29 pm
well well well
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Post by: Vincenzo on June 25, 2014, 09:03:08 pm
Dutch organizations are getting together under our NA (NAN) with their complaints basically, also uniting with the British NA to change the event and its rules, now there is still time.


Of course chances are their voices will not be heard.
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Post by: Duuring on June 25, 2014, 09:09:16 pm
Yeeeaaaah...well...Actually... The NAN and NA bring forward the Prince of Orange and (sadly) more importantly, Wellington, and that will probably hit harder then the fact that several hundred re-enactors might not show up.
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Post by: Barnesy on June 26, 2014, 12:54:10 am
That was part of the point of Don's message too. He sent it to all  of the various Napoleonic Umbrella Organisations in Europe. Together they will be able to lean on the Belgians to make them see sense hopefully!
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Post by: Vincenzo on June 26, 2014, 09:44:13 am
If not, ohwell, f*ck it, I'm gona go and do whatever the f*ck the organisation want, ill even march 10 km during the night if I have to, its f*cking Waterloo 200!
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Post by: Duuring on June 26, 2014, 12:36:52 pm
Jeez, Vince, ranting like that isn't going to do shit.  :P
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Post by: joer5835 on June 26, 2014, 01:01:28 pm
We should just set up camp in some random place and organise our own Waterloo.
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Post by: Olafson on June 26, 2014, 01:02:20 pm
Exactly.

Problem what that is... You will split the communities and both events will end up with half of the people showing up.
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Post by: joer5835 on June 26, 2014, 01:04:02 pm
You didn't just take that seriously, now did you?
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Post by: Duuring on June 26, 2014, 01:13:23 pm
Sarcasm doesn't show too well on the interwebs, dear  :P
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Post by: Mr T on June 26, 2014, 01:24:25 pm
The Italian Napoleonic organisation is also jumpin' on the bandwagon of presenting complaints to the Belgians :D
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Post by: Barnesy on June 26, 2014, 01:29:04 pm
Beat me to it mr t!
Now we need 'murica and Australia to as well
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Post by: Mr T on June 26, 2014, 01:32:06 pm
Is there a French NA all the French units are a part of?
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Post by: Duuring on June 26, 2014, 01:39:30 pm
Nope. Not even close to one.
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Post by: Olafson on June 26, 2014, 01:39:34 pm
Ofc, I took it seriously. We set up a 2nd camp. Next week. In front of the house of the organisations. And we wont go before they change everything we tell them to change!
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Post by: joer5835 on June 26, 2014, 01:53:47 pm
Ofc, I took it seriously. We set up a 2nd camp. Next week. In front of the house of the organisations. And we wont go before they change everything we tell them to change!

I say we fire a salute volley at 2am right in front of their bedroom window.
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Post by: Duuring on June 26, 2014, 02:10:19 pm
"God bless the organisation!"
"What the devil?"
*BOMOBOMBOMBOMBOMBOOOOOOOMMM*
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Post by: Vincenzo on June 26, 2014, 02:50:23 pm
Their belgians.. More like:

Godmiljaar!
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Post by: Barnesy on June 26, 2014, 10:29:35 pm
The NA are onto it in the UK these have just been posted onto the website
http://www.napoleonicassociation.org/downloads/Waterloo200_Update_260614.pdf (http://www.napoleonicassociation.org/downloads/Waterloo200_Update_260614.pdf)
http://www.napoleonicassociation.org/downloads/Waterloo200_Issue_Register_v2.pdf (http://www.napoleonicassociation.org/downloads/Waterloo200_Issue_Register_v2.pdf)
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Post by: joer5835 on July 03, 2014, 04:19:56 pm
My unit just contacted me, we are finally going to register now. Going to be a bit of a hassle considering our unit usses depot muskets, most of us don't have our own.
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Post by: Von_Clausewitz on July 03, 2014, 04:30:07 pm
I'm not a reenactor but i read a few pages ago that a/some pipeband(s) are coming to Waterloo 2015, does anyone have an idea what pipe bands that are (or if they're simply reenactors with pipes)? I'd maybe like to play with some of these pipe bands.
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Post by: Barnesy on July 04, 2014, 12:12:57 am
I'm not a reenactor but i read a few pages ago that a/some pipeband(s) are coming to Waterloo 2015, does anyone have an idea what pipe bands that are (or if they're simply reenactors with pipes)? I'd maybe like to play with some of these pipe bands.

I can't remember what the pipes are, whether it is a specific band or reenactors. All I know is that we've apparently got them for C Brigade :D
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Post by: Barnesy on July 11, 2014, 10:57:31 am
So apparently it turns out that each association will have a huge say in who attends next year. So that's a relief!
Also they've changed the registration AGAIN!!
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Post by: zac on July 11, 2014, 11:04:12 am
In what way?
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Post by: Barnesy on July 11, 2014, 11:08:48 am
I've not seen yet but our QM says that now all the bullshit about time of arrival etc has been taken off. Basically somebody sensible has pointed out to them that people don't know their travel details a year in advance
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Post by: Duuring on July 11, 2014, 12:32:13 pm
So apparently it turns out that each association will have a huge say in who attends next year. So that's a relief!

I can the advantage, but also the disadvantage in that.
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Post by: Barnesy on July 11, 2014, 12:47:56 pm
Agreed. What it will stop is there being lots of individuals just rocking up wanting to be sharpe.
We've been told that we should have nothing to worry about getting in. Haven't heard any news yet about the camp follower bullshit though
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Post by: Vorposten on July 15, 2014, 10:00:02 am
Interesting. I didn't know that there were French, Allies and Prussians.

Or ist allies the common word for Brits?  ???

(page 2 of registration paper)

Seriously, I plan to go. But I will see what will be next year :D
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Post by: joer5835 on July 15, 2014, 01:13:26 pm
Allies is what it says: the allies. Which are British, KGL, Dutch, Belgians, Hannoverians, Nassau, Brunswickers....basically the whole lot that fought under Wellington at Quatre-Bras and Waterloo.
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Post by: Vorposten on July 15, 2014, 01:17:36 pm
Allies is what it says: the allies. Which are British, KGL, Dutch, Belgians, Hannoverians, Nassau, Brunswickers....basically the whole lot that fought under Wellington at Quatre-Bras and Waterloo.
Sure, but In fact why did they divide Allies and Prussians? Or should the Prussian play a big role 2015?  ???
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Post by: joer5835 on July 15, 2014, 01:34:22 pm
The most simplest answers is that the Prussian were a seperate force under Blücher, while the allies refer to all troops under the command of Wellington.
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Post by: Barnesy on July 21, 2014, 11:22:23 pm
Apparently The One Show got in contact with the NA events officer as they'd seen our flashmob we did for one of our members silver wedding... They asked if we could do a flashmob next year at the 200th which would be broadcast... Any guesses what they wanted us to do?
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Post by: TWking on July 22, 2014, 12:19:05 am
Asked you to do it dressed as bananas.  :D
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Post by: Barnesy on July 22, 2014, 12:24:49 am
Close. They wanted us to teach everyone a flash dance to Waterloo -.-
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Post by: TWking on July 22, 2014, 12:14:27 pm
During the battle?
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Post by: Duuring on July 22, 2014, 12:17:21 pm
"Make readyyy....Aiiiiimmmm.......YYYYYYYYYYYMCA lalalalalala YYYYYY M C AAAA"
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Post by: Barnesy on July 22, 2014, 01:13:22 pm
During the battle?
Nah I think it would've been in camp... although during the battle would be fucking hilarious!!!
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Post by: Mr. Kochi on August 23, 2014, 03:40:36 am
Well, I sent in my application to the waterloo 2015 event, but to be honest, I'm very skeptical about the whole thing. I really hope in case this one is rejected, I could try again later on.

To be honest, I think there is a fairly big chance it'll get rejected, considering I'm an Argentinian that never took part in any european reenactments. Even though I'll be attending with a supposedly 'veteran' association that's been attending Waterloo for the past 15 ish years or so.

I take most of the ones here that signed up were accepted already, weren't you?
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Post by: Barnesy on August 23, 2014, 08:52:36 am
Not yet. Still not heard
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Post by: Olafson on August 23, 2014, 01:11:33 pm
Yeah, not yet either.
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Post by: joer5835 on August 23, 2014, 01:40:48 pm
There's a rumor that we have to re-sign up, but this time a unit signs up as a whole instead of everyone individually.

Then again, it's a rumor I heard during a meeting with my unit, don't pin me down on it.
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Post by: Vincenzo on August 23, 2014, 03:24:31 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BT-6kp0ZPC8
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Post by: Olafson on August 25, 2014, 03:42:43 pm
So I found this picture from 1995 reenactment of Waterloo...

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg140.imageshack.us%2Fimg140%2F3396%2Fwaterloo1990024.jpg&hash=f47fdcec7647cbd33210cb48dfcb310b9176b108)
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Is this how lay haye sainte will look like? If so, that is horrible... Especially considering that the real thing is just 1km away, in perfect condition.

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Post by: Vincenzo on August 25, 2014, 04:06:47 pm
Belgium governement, fucking your historical events since 1815.
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Post by: joer5835 on August 25, 2014, 04:12:57 pm
Lets face it, we are going to Waterloo because of the historical value, but it probably wont be the most fun event ever.
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Post by: Mr. Kochi on August 25, 2014, 04:47:58 pm
True.

Say, I was now given some extra info from my unit, which I did not include in my original inscription. Should I sign up again with the extra? (it's quite a lot, btw)
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Post by: Vincenzo on August 25, 2014, 05:04:32 pm
NO, they send you a login details, with that you can alter you shit.
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Post by: Mr. Kochi on August 25, 2014, 05:15:45 pm
They didn't send me anything. Just the email with the "thank you for signing up" thing.
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Post by: Riddlez on August 25, 2014, 07:20:57 pm
Spoiler
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Is that an.... anthill?
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Post by: DeoVindice61 on August 25, 2014, 07:32:02 pm
dat hill tho
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Post by: Mr T on August 25, 2014, 08:05:58 pm
So I found this picture from 1995 reenactment of Waterloo...

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Is this how lay haye sainte will look like? If so, that is horrible... Especially considering that the real thing is just 1km away, in perfect condition.

Better than the crappy "buildings/barricades" we have made over here at some events, all made out of pallets, looks like a gypsy house.
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Post by: Duuring on August 25, 2014, 09:57:59 pm
The hill is the Butte de Lion.
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Post by: DeoVindice61 on August 25, 2014, 11:36:21 pm
butt of the lion?
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Post by: Duuring on August 25, 2014, 11:49:50 pm
Hill.
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Post by: Mr T on August 26, 2014, 12:22:16 am
Or as its called in English, The Lion Mound
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Post by: Duuring on August 26, 2014, 12:29:14 am
Usually it's called 'that fucking ugly thing the Dutch made for which they ruined the battlefield hurhurhur' in English.

It IS fucking ugly though.
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Post by: DeoVindice61 on August 26, 2014, 01:09:17 am
and in America its

The great ass of the lion
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Post by: joer5835 on August 26, 2014, 01:11:02 am
I have a love-hate relationship with that thing. It gives a great view when standing on top, but it does really ruin the landscape though.
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Post by: Duuring on August 26, 2014, 01:12:35 am
It's the world most ignored monument.
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Post by: Olafson on August 26, 2014, 06:54:53 am
So true...
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Post by: Riddlez on August 26, 2014, 10:43:05 am
It's the world most ignored monument.

But Jaysus, the entire place is just to be ignored. It is ugly, badly maintained and generally not very interesing. It has such an awful lot of potential, and they just don't get it out.

That fresco is nice though.
But again, it's liek that city of Spa. Just..... Times of glory past.
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Post by: Duuring on August 26, 2014, 11:48:11 am
Blame the Belgian government for that. Or the Walloon. They allowed Hougoumont to fall into ruins, they didn't give fucks about Gemincourt in Quatre-Bras that's nearly fallen apart.

What I meant with 'ignored' that this massive thing is a very big reminder to everyone 'Look, the Dutch were here'. Yet we're usually forgotten when talking about Waterloo.
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Post by: Mr. Kochi on August 26, 2014, 07:30:04 pm
Yep, and now they developed this "moral necessity" to invest a crapton of money into restoring the damned place. It would have been far cheaper to just maintain Hougoumont and give it a fresh 'coat of paint' every year or so.

But alas, no.
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Post by: Riddlez on August 26, 2014, 10:24:51 pm
Yep, and now they developed this "moral necessity" to invest a crapton of money into restoring the damned place. It would have been far cheaper to just maintain Hougoumont and give it a fresh 'coat of paint' every year or so.

But alas, no.

At least the museum and fresco are becoming more interesting now. Remember not everyone knows what the battle of Waterloo exactly was. I think it's nice.
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Post by: Millander on August 27, 2014, 07:07:02 am
The more I read this thread the more glad I am that both Gewttysburgs were so awesome.
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Post by: TORN on August 28, 2014, 02:31:35 pm
Blame the Belgian government for that. Or the Walloon. They allowed Hougoumont to fall into ruins, they didn't give fucks about Gemincourt in Quatre-Bras that's nearly fallen apart.

Walloon government, the federal one doesnt bother with such affairs.
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Post by: Olafson on August 28, 2014, 04:20:27 pm
True, there is no Belgian Government anyway. Most of the time.
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Post by: TORN on August 28, 2014, 04:30:14 pm
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gargalhando.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F06%2Fvv2taZY.png&hash=8b99a19d1cb6782038067ef33b5f20c4849da0fd)
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Post by: Wigster600 on August 28, 2014, 04:41:59 pm
You kinda forget Blegium's a thing sometimes....
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Post by: Olafson on October 11, 2014, 10:08:30 pm
Does anyone know how big the battlefield is going to be, and where?

Battle of Hougomont, is it going to take place in actual hougomont, or in a paper and wood reconstruction that is probably a 3rd of the size and only looks good to people who are watching the battle?

Same goes for Lay Haye. I heard nassau and kgl are supposed to camp in it. Paper lay haye or the real one? I hope that if they decide to make wooden reconstructions that they atleast make them look good from the inside too. Not just from the outside, so visitors can see it.
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Post by: Vincenzo on October 11, 2014, 11:45:04 pm
I heard through the grapevine that the owner of one of those farms, (La haye?)

Did NOT want any battle inside it, they will make some reconstruction of it in wood I assume.
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Post by: Olafson on October 12, 2014, 12:35:32 am
What about hugo? I knew that about La haye, its private property. But hugo isnt.
Battle around the real Hugo would be so awesome. Battle around the wooden reconstruction of hugo sounds more than lame and boring.
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Post by: Mr T on October 13, 2014, 09:22:40 pm
Wanna know where re-enactors will be hanging out after Waterloo?

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Post by: Mr T on October 23, 2014, 11:50:34 pm
Mark Schneider or Frank Samson as Napoleon at Waterloo, who shall it be?  :o
Thoughts? Opinions anyone?


https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/napoleon-v-napoleon
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Post by: joer5835 on October 23, 2014, 11:54:41 pm
#Schneider2015
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Post by: Vincenzo on October 24, 2014, 09:50:54 am
Samson is on all the posters, it isn't even a competition..

Hell Samson it will be also said an organizer of  the event to me.
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Post by: Olafson on October 24, 2014, 09:57:35 am
Who cares anyway.
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Post by: Mr T on October 26, 2014, 01:13:32 pm
Spoiler
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Post by: Vincenzo on October 26, 2014, 01:14:59 pm
It's already decided ages ago that it is going to be samson. get over it lol
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Post by: zac on October 26, 2014, 08:03:00 pm
#Schneider2015
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Post by: Marceaux on October 26, 2014, 08:21:31 pm
#Schneider2015
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Post by: Mr. Kochi on October 26, 2014, 08:53:07 pm
That moment when I realize FSE stole the laurel wreath from Wikipedia to make the nation selection menus, just like in that picture.

Clever  ::)