| Cavalry Nations Cup 2014 Champion: Poland Cavalry Nations Cup 2015 Champion: France Cavalry Nations Cup 2016 Champion: United Kingdom |
| (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/41/1476305443-blan.png) | (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hapshack.com%2Fimages%2F0TY4r.png&hash=2c9a019d40ce9d302e7245e9c15866aef976dd7a) | 1. Teams will only be composed of players who have the nationality of their team's country/countries. 2. Teams will be composed of 12 players minimum, 21 players maximum. 3. Teams containing coalitions between countries will only be allowed by the organizers, on the condition that this is the only way for these countries to play due to low numbers. 4. Matches will be allowed to be played with either 8, 10 or 12 players minimum. Captains will decide it when they set their matches up. If both Captains can't agree on a maximum number of players, I will be the one who decides. No more than 12 players allowed on the field per team. 5. If a team doesn't bring enough players, they will play with what they have, but the team they face will still be allowed to have the decided minimum number of men fighting. 6. Teams will have to pick one unit between the following: Hussar, Cuirassier, Dragoon, Lancer, and will have to stick to it throughout the competition. 7. Matches will be 'first to 8'. 8. To win a round, a team has to kill everyone in the enemy team. 9. Picking enemy weapons and horses is allowed, like in a standard 1v1 regimental cavalry fight. Lances however can not be picked up. 10. Behave ! Do not tea-bag, and keep the global chat to a minimum. 11. Listen to the admins and what they say. 12. Matches' organization will be up to the Captains of the teams which have to face each other every week. They have to post a date and hour, and then I will give a referee and server to this match. 13. One officer (the Team Captain or the Vice Captain if the Captain isn't there) per team may be on the field, to lead his men. 14. Shooting is strictly forbidden. If an officer or a ranker is caught firing his pistol, referees will reset the round, and the team of the guilty man will loose one point. 15. Team members and captains alike are asked to remain calm at all time if they are unhappy with any decision a referee or I can make. If they wish to express their discontent they must do it on this FSE thread, and write it politely. No insults or in-game complaints will be accepted. 16. Players must wear the tags they were signed-up with in their team's roster. They may change things in it, but must keep the original name visible. For example: a player signed as Potato can join the servers with the tag "DeadlyPotato", but not "DeadlyBottle". 17. Teams playing as lancers are not allowed to use the couched lance ability of the unit. If a player does it, he will be slain. If it continues, points might be taken off the guilty team. This goes for other classes who might pick a lance on the ground. |
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Match week n°1 - 13/11/17 to 19/11/17 Group A : Italy |1-8| Spain France |8-0| Slavic Countries Free week: Poland Group B : Turkey |1-8| United Kingdom Benelux |8-0| North America Free week: Germanic Countries [close] | Match week n°2 - 20/11/17 to 26/11/17 Group A : France |7-8| Spain Slavic Countries |0-8| Poland Free week: Italy Group B : Benelux |4-8| United Kingdom Turkey |0-8| Germanic Countries Free week: North America [close] | Match week n°3 - 27/11/17 to 03/12/17 Group A : Italy |0-8| France Poland |3-8| Spain Free Week: Slavic Countries Group B : North America |0-8| Germanic Countries Benelux |8-0| Turkey Free week: United Kingdom [close] |
Match week n°4 - 04/12/17 to 10/12/17 Group A : Italy |0-8| Poland Slavic Countries |0-8| Spain Free week: France Group B : United Kingdom |5-8| Germanic Countries Turkey |8-0| North America Free week: Benelux [close] | Match week n°5 - 11/12/17 to 17/12/17 Group A : France |6-8| Poland Italy || Slavic Countries Free week: Spain Group B : United Kingdom |8-0| North America Germanic Countries |8-0| Benelux Free week: Turkey [close] |
Semi Finals - 01/01/18 to 07/01/18 Spain |8-2| United Kingdom Germanic Countries |8-4| Poland [close] |
Final & Bronze Match - 08/01/18 to 14/01/18 Bronze Match Poland |8-6| United Kingdom Final Spain |8-5| Germanic Countries [close] |
| Captain: (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510016922-russie2.jpg) Graf-Maximus Vice-Captain: (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510016926-serbie2.jpg) Grozni 1. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510016922-russie2.jpg) Graf-Maximus 2. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510016926-serbie2.jpg) Grozni 3. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510016929-slovaquie2.jpg) Hokej 4. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510017162-tcheque2.jpg) Achless 5. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510016922-russie2.jpg) Lirp 6. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510016998-estonia-flag.jpg) Chumaizda 7. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510017568-croatie2.jpg) Reri 8. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510016922-russie2.jpg) Ivan 9. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510016926-serbie2.jpg) Kosingas 10. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510017568-croatie2.jpg) Ante 11. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510017574-macedoine2.jpg) Goronek 12. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510016922-russie2.jpg) Iliarkil 13. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510017162-tcheque2.jpg) Hansbach 14. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510017216-ukraine2.jpg) Manka 15. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510016926-serbie2.jpg) MightyPain 16. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510017568-croatie2.jpg) Schweinebauer 17. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510017216-ukraine2.jpg) Wulfstan 18. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421715388-pologne2.jpg) Kokos Tag: ESCT_Name Unit: Hussars | (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/10/1457651499-hussardrusse2.png) | "Napoléon is a torrent which as yet we are unable to stem. Moscow will be the sponge that will suck him dry." - Mikhail Kutuzov, Russian General. |
| Captain: (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420844016-italie2.jpg) Piccolomini Vice-Captain: (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420844016-italie2.jpg) Andrea 1. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420844016-italie2.jpg) Piccolomini 2. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420844016-italie2.jpg) Andrea 3. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420844019-suisse2.jpg) Chri 4. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420844016-italie2.jpg) Counter 5. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420844016-italie2.jpg) Borry 6. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420844016-italie2.jpg) Ruenzi 7. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420844016-italie2.jpg) Ale 8. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420844016-italie2.jpg) Song 9. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420844016-italie2.jpg) Jackintheboz 10. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420844016-italie2.jpg) Doge 11. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420844016-italie2.jpg) Grislimass 12. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420844016-italie2.jpg) Gozzillas 13. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420844016-italie2.jpg) Simone 14. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420844016-italie2.jpg) Davide 15. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420844016-italie2.jpg) Shark 16. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420844016-italie2.jpg) Marco 47 17. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420844016-italie2.jpg) YoloPanda 18. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420844016-italie2.jpg) Frank 19. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420844016-italie2.jpg) Gyo Tag: ITA_Name Unit: Hussars | (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2014/05/1391213697-ussaro-7-reg-gran-arm-2r000-picc-clipped-rev-1.png) | "You did what was impossible !" - General Hollidt to the Italian Horsemen. |
| Captain: (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) Traeeseron Vice-Captain: (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) Victor 1. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) Traeeseron 2. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) Victor 3. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) Aponnk 4. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) Asediado 5. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) Charlini 6. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) DarkLigth 7. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) Dume 8. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) Filipo 9. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) Hispalense 10. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) Luisma 11. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) Moroman 12. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) Nerva 13. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) Pedro 14. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) Piotes 15. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) Ramirez 16. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) SirAlecks 17. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) Sparta 18. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) Termito 19. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) Tuvius 20. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) Wasike Tag: ESP_Name Unit: Lancers | (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422101611-coracero.png) | "Unable to deploy in a defensive formation, the infantry was cut to pieces by the Spanish cavalry." - Battle of Fleurus (1690). |
| Captain: (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421715388-pologne2.jpg) Zahari Vice-Captain: (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421715388-pologne2.jpg) Rastignac 1. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421715388-pologne2.jpg) Zahari 2. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421715388-pologne2.jpg) Rastignac 3. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421715388-pologne2.jpg) Hawer 4. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421715388-pologne2.jpg) Garond 5. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421715388-pologne2.jpg) Matijas 6. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421715388-pologne2.jpg) Ghazi 7. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421715388-pologne2.jpg) Husarion 8. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421715388-pologne2.jpg) Ganczo 9. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421715388-pologne2.jpg) Kamidas 10. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510618058-slovenie2.jpg) Fanest 11. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421715388-pologne2.jpg) Eldar 12. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510017216-ukraine2.jpg) Houston 13. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510017162-tcheque2.jpg) Jokim 14. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421715388-pologne2.jpg) Qner 15. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421715388-pologne2.jpg) Pliskin 16. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421715388-pologne2.jpg) Rivet 17. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421715388-pologne2.jpg) Jeżyk 18. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421715388-pologne2.jpg) Kokosz Tag: POL_Name Unit: Cuirassiers | (https://i.imgur.com/4QOtvwW.png?2) | "For my Poles, nothing is impossible." - Napoléon Ier, Emperor of the French. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/08/1456608510-1421715640-etoilelol2014.png) |
| Captain: (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712597-france2.jpg) Erik Vice-Captain: (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712597-france2.jpg) Sukesa 1. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712597-france2.jpg) Erik 2. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712597-france2.jpg) Sukesa 3. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712597-france2.jpg) Treiz 4. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712597-france2.jpg) Bocom 5. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712597-france2.jpg) Ouranos 6. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712597-france2.jpg) Balian 7. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712597-france2.jpg) Remao 8. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712597-france2.jpg) Enderby 9. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712597-france2.jpg) Odden 10. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510020270-suisse2.jpg) Kazi 11. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712597-france2.jpg) MaxenceIV 12. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712597-france2.jpg) Soartex 13. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712597-france2.jpg) Crea 14. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712597-france2.jpg) Swap 15. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712597-france2.jpg) Delta 16. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712597-france2.jpg) Tulkas 17. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712597-france2.jpg) Leensab 18. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712597-france2.jpg) Kaiser 19. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712597-france2.jpg) Ace 20. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712597-france2.jpg) DeLaBedoyère 21. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712597-france2.jpg) Wolf Tag: FRA_Name Unit: Hussars | (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510019923-interviews1.png) | "Their hooves were shaking the earth. They hit the pavements of the greatest cities of Europe." - Victor Hugo, French poet. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/08/1456608512-1421715640-etoilelol2015.png) |
| Captain: (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853808-belgique2.jpg) Lio Vice-Captain: (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853806-paysbas2.jpg) Clausewitz 1. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853808-belgique2.jpg) Lio 2. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853806-paysbas2.jpg) Clausewitz 3. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853806-paysbas2.jpg) Ciiges 4. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853806-paysbas2.jpg) Frank 5. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853806-paysbas2.jpg) Ghosts 6. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853806-paysbas2.jpg) Kane 7. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853806-paysbas2.jpg) Mkunz 8. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853806-paysbas2.jpg) Northern 9. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853806-paysbas2.jpg) Scoops 10. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853806-paysbas2.jpg) Jan Struyvenzandt 11. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853806-paysbas2.jpg) Gurai 12. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853806-paysbas2.jpg) Maxxxio 13. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853806-paysbas2.jpg) Zulu 14. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853806-paysbas2.jpg) Arjen 15. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853806-paysbas2.jpg) Yorick 16. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853808-belgique2.jpg) FreyrDS 17. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853808-belgique2.jpg) Rhealder 18. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853808-belgique2.jpg) Advide 19. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853808-belgique2.jpg) Gio 20. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853808-belgique2.jpg) Belgian_Fury Tag: BNL_Name Unit: Hussars | (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422055145-belgian-hussar.png) | "They were black devils with silver helmets." - Auguste Cuppens, curate of Loksbergen, about Belgian Carabiniers. "The Dutch cavalry descended the slope and charged, dispersing the French in front of them." - Dutch Cavalry at Waterloo. |
| Captain: (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712586-allemagne2.jpg) Fidje Vice-Captain: (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712586-allemagne2.jpg) Dokletian 1. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712586-allemagne2.jpg) Fidje 2. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712586-allemagne2.jpg) Dokletian 3. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712586-allemagne2.jpg) Thales 4. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712586-allemagne2.jpg) FelgenRalle 5. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712586-allemagne2.jpg) DarkHawk 6. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712586-allemagne2.jpg) Goodest 7. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712586-allemagne2.jpg) Bauer 8. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712586-allemagne2.jpg) DE14HANNES 9. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712586-allemagne2.jpg) Blader 10. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712586-allemagne2.jpg) targeknight 11. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712605-suisse2.jpg) Carlok 12. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712586-allemagne2.jpg) NoahLuemmel 13. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712586-allemagne2.jpg) Felix 14. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712586-allemagne2.jpg) Angel 15. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712586-allemagne2.jpg) Rapez 16. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712586-allemagne2.jpg) Recker 17. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712586-allemagne2.jpg) Tim 18. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712586-allemagne2.jpg) Voland 19. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712605-suisse2.jpg) dan1 20. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712586-allemagne2.jpg) Markra 21. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712586-allemagne2.jpg) Caylor Tag: GER_Name Unit: Hussars | (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422116662-pruss.png) | "They were the butchers of the Prussian Army, their banner was embroidered by the hands of the Queen." - French Général Lasalle about Prussian hussars. |
| Captain: (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712607-turquie2.jpg) Levoro Vice-Captain: (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712607-turquie2.jpg) Gameshero 1. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712607-turquie2.jpg) Levoro 2. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712607-turquie2.jpg) Gameshero 3. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422100795-azerbaijan2.jpg) Caucasian 4. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712607-turquie2.jpg) Emre Kagan 5. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712607-turquie2.jpg) GregorClegane 6. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712607-turquie2.jpg) Suleiman the Magnificent 7. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712607-turquie2.jpg) BatuHan 8. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712607-turquie2.jpg) MaZzZoTci 9. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712607-turquie2.jpg) William Wallace 10. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712607-turquie2.jpg) Atesceken70 11. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712607-turquie2.jpg) Harford 12. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712607-turquie2.jpg) CigulaMurat 13. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712607-turquie2.jpg) S1PAH1 14. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712607-turquie2.jpg) AnatoliaTiger 15. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510016238-chypre.png) Judg3y 16. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712607-turquie2.jpg) Tamerlane 17. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712607-turquie2.jpg) Çömen Yılan 18. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712607-turquie2.jpg) UguroBi 19. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712607-turquie2.jpg) Altarinoglutarkan 20. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712607-turquie2.jpg) ParalyzeR 21. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712607-turquie2.jpg) General Shepherd Tag: TUR_Name Unit: Hussars | (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422115843-turk.png) | "Turks are decent riders: when they charge, they whip the enemy and crush them like a leaf." - Cahiz, Arabian Savant. |
| Captain: (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510019132-usa2.jpg) SillyWilly Vice-Captain: (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510019132-usa2.jpg) Blucher 1. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510019132-usa2.jpg) SillyWilly 2. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510019132-usa2.jpg) Blucher 3. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510019132-usa2.jpg) Public 4. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510019214-canada2.jpg) Inoua 5. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510019214-canada2.jpg) Emperor 6. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510019132-usa2.jpg) Vick 7. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510019132-usa2.jpg) Bardic 8. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510019132-usa2.jpg) Brandon 9. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510019132-usa2.jpg) Lee 10. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510019132-usa2.jpg) Kiri 11. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510019132-usa2.jpg) Hotjoe 12. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510019132-usa2.jpg) Crackjack 13. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510019132-usa2.jpg) Curtis Shuttler 14. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510019132-usa2.jpg) Clean 15. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510019132-usa2.jpg) Akula 16. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510019132-usa2.jpg) Lurvy 17. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510019214-canada2.jpg) Yoshie 18. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510019132-usa2.jpg) Hess 19. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510019132-usa2.jpg) Shalo 20. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/45/2/1510019132-usa2.jpg) ZachAttack 21. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/47/3/1511309810-mexique.jpg) Jossepe Tag: USA_Name Unit: Hussars | (https://i.imgur.com/7avDhMr.png?1) | "Veterans! You have been baptized in fire and blood, and have come out steel." - General Winfield Scott, to the 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment. |
| Captain: (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) Skittles Vice-Captain: (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) Cage 1. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) Skittles 2. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) Cage 3. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) King_Stannis 4. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) Tomas 5. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) Wib 6. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) Spikey 7. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) USE4Life 8. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) Eejit 9. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) Thorny 10. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) Andros 11. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) Narsus 12. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) Hawk 13. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) Herishey 14. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) Karzark 15. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) KingKO 16. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) MrSharkie 17. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) Quack 18. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) Quinn 19. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) Odiin 20. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) Rival Tag: UK_Name Unit: Hussars | (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2014/07/1392074544-17990-cliptped-rev-81.png) | "It was some consolation for us to have been beaten by British Cavalry." - A French prisonner caught by British hussars. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/19/1463002636-etoilelol16.png) |
Germanic Countries Felix : https://steamcommunity.com/id/Felix5557/ Apfelkuchen : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198189220739/ Targeknight : https://steamcommunity.com/id/targeknight Recker : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198076111295/ Blader : https://steamcommunity.com/id/Bladerscrub/ Markra : https://steamcommunity.com/id/Markra/ DE14HANNES : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198162112092 Dokletian : https://steamcommunity.com/id/dokiiiiiiii Thales : https://steamcommunity.com/id/Thaleeees FelgenRalle : https://steamcommunity.com/id/xFailerx Bauer : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198064439350 C@rlok : https://steamcommunity.com/id/Carlok SwissGronkh : www.steamcommunity.com/id/SwissGronkh DarkHawk : https://steamcommunity.com/id/DarkHawkTheGreat/ Heinz Ludwig : https://steamcommunity.com/id/2Lr_Heinz_Ludwig/ Tim0204 : https://steamcommunity.com/id/Tim0204 Goodest : https://steamcommunity.com/id/2Lr_Goodest/ Alexander : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198537472313/ Rapez : https://steamcommunity.com/id/zapperapez Caylor : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198057478621/ Angel : https://steamcommunity.com/id/--Angel--/ Voland : https://steamcommunity.com/id/rommstar [close] | United Kingdom KingKO : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198029595695 Spikey : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198018601729/ King Stannis : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198083874650 Quack : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198208753800/ Rev Jim Jones : https://steamcommunity.com/id/RIMJONES Herishey : https://steamcommunity.com/id/spikecon1 MrAnnoying : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198001780420 Hawk : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198063165227/ ONeil : https://steamcommunity.com/id/sexyboy1106/ Thomas Cadarn : https://steamcommunity.com/id/DCHEIB/ Simon : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198120628258/ Karzark : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198105813955/ Shark : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198161980547/ Narsus : https://steamcommunity.com/id/confirmedweeb/ Shadey : https://steamcommunity.com/id/chickenboona/ [close] | France Delta : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198055606280/ Chuckster : https://steamcommunity.com/id/chuckster58 Soartex : https://steamcommunity.com/id/TRH_Soartex/ MaxenceIV : https://steamcommunity.com/id/maxenceIV/ Zeit : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198077477440/ Gandalf : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198047859426/ SwaP : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198055146033/ Remao : https://steamcommunity.com/id/Remao/ Treiz : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198080094729 Balian : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198068231604/ CokeTail : https://steamcommunity.com/id/CokeTailFRA Bocom : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198027834775 LaPierre : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198015290096/ Kazi : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198112287142/ DeLaBedoyère : https://steamcommunity.com/id/DeLaBedoyere/ Tulkas : https://steamcommunity.com/id/8thKRH_Tulkas/ Squall : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198018729737/ DragonKing : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198403441359/ Tengou : https://steamcommunity.com/id/TF-Tengou/ Alexisse : https://steamcommunity.com/id/alexisselevil/ Maximou : https://steamcommunity.com/id/max44810/ OuRaNos : https://steamcommunity.com/id/9eOuRaNos/ ACE : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198042796675/ Spdede : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198111496051/ Kaiser : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198121420935/ Enderby : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198031332117/ Skarface : https://steamcommunity.com/id/SkarfaceLittleNemo/ Saunier : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198078781248/ Centurion : https://steamcommunity.com/id/2846578856574657845/ EeSpike : https://steamcommunity.com/id/eespike [close] |
Benelux StephanGH : https://steamcommunity.com/id/StephanGH/ Rhealder : https://steamcommunity.com/id/The-Corsair/ Ciiges : https://steamcommunity.com/id/ciiges De Caulaincourt : https://steamcommunity.com/id/decaulaincourt/ FreyrDS : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198109446297/ Jan Struyvenzandt : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198013073868/ PyrosZ : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198050345844/ Gio : https://steamcommunity.com/id/Gio3118/ [close] | Spain Retamar : https://steamcommunity.com/id/chicharero/ Aless : https://steamcommunity.com/id/lordaldiva Lorucas : https://steamcommunity.com/id/Lorucas Victor : https://steamcommunity.com/id/victorcin94/ Wasike : https://steamcommunity.com/id/Wasike MrDixon : https://steamcommunity.com/id/mrdicson Luisma : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198084192830 Joanisi : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198256286414/ Termito : https://steamcommunity.com/id/Termionamo/ Karl Johnson : https://steamcommunity.com/id/karlvonkanarien/ Nova : https://steamcommunity.com/id/xnova3000/ Stalin : https://steamcommunity.com/id/ivilok FeLino : https://steamcommunity.com/id/FeLiino/ [close] | Turkey Caucasian : https://steamcommunity.com/id/caucasianbutcher/ [close] |
Italy Chri : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198099586152/ [close] | Scandinavia SK : https://steamcommunity.com/id/gambinosk Andre : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198079860903/ Danish : https://steamcommunity.com/id/falklands/ [close] |
Ireland TheOldMan : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198074191943/ [close] | Slavic Countries MightyFreakinPaiN : https://steamcommunity.com/id/Firephoenixnr1/ Schweinbauer : https://steamcommunity.com/id/PigMan98/ [close] |
Spain vs France - 24/11 (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/07/1455978509-cooltext1852385575.png)
MATCH PREVIEW
(https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2014/01/1388687276-untitled-2-zpsac23963c.png) Tonight, a match between two of the most popular teams in the Cavalry Nations Cup is going to happen. France is facing Spain in a match that will probably be one of the biggest clashes of group A. Throughout the years, these two nations have always shown great skills, dedication and organization, leading France to a Champion title in 2015, and Spain to a solid bronze medal that same year. This year even seems a little bit more spicy than the previous ones because, if France is sticking to its traditional hussar class, Spain is trying out the lancer class, newly welcomed into the Cavalry Nations Cup. This match promises us to be both tense and extremely entertaining for everyone to watch and enjoy. The players will need to give their very best if they want to triumph. Let us now take a look at the teams, their forces, and what we will need to look out for tonight. For all who want to spectate, feel free to jump on CavNationsCup_1 tonight at 20:30 GMT (British Time).
CONCLUSION Tonight's match will definitely be a match to watch, to take part in, and to be remembered. The first big clash between a powerful Hussar team, and an experienced Lancer team. It will be one of the biggest and toughest fight that Group A has to offer, and both teams will need to be extremely focused, motivated, and at their very best in order to get a win. No matter what the score can be tonight, it is fair to believe that every round will be close. Great skills will be shown by both sides, hard and important decisions might have to be taken by the two captains in order to get the most out of their teams, and the result of this match will greatly influence the other matches to come in Group A. Best of luck to both teams, let it be a cavalry fight to remember. - Many thanks to Tardet for sending me the template's code of this preview. [close] |
Blucher, North American Captain - By Erik - 26/11 (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/07/1455978509-cooltext1852385575.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/11/1458512486-cooltext172692773849804.png) - Interview - Blucher, North America Captain
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Erik, French Captain & Organizer, By Narsus, 29/11 (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/07/1455978509-cooltext1852385575.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/11/1458512486-cooltext172692773849804.png) - Interview - Erik, French Captain Organizer of the 2017 Cavalry Nations Cup
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(https://i.imgur.com/qhmAZXU.gif)(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/kob/images/a/ad/Hussar.png/revision/latest?cb=20091228025228)PolandCaptain: Zahari (https://steamcommunity.com/id/z-h---/)
Vice-Captain: Pliskin (https://steamcommunity.com/id/jadepipe/)
Team members: Zahari, Pliskin, Rastignac,
Ganczo, Kamidas, Jeżyk, Peradius, Husarion, Matijas, Ghazi, lysy890, Dzastinek. and more TBA
Class (Surprise):(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi39.tinypic.com%2Fs1kk9c.png&hash=26f659ffcb593e6f2ffc39716ef3955357de3706)
PS Everyting was discussed with Polish cav community. :)(https://i.imgur.com/8SNHQoH.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/qhmAZXU.gif)(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/kob/images/a/ad/Hussar.png/revision/latest?cb=20091228025228)PolandCaptain: Zahari (https://steamcommunity.com/id/z-h---/)
Vice-Captain: Pliskin (https://steamcommunity.com/id/jadepipe/)
Team members: Zahari, Pliskin, Rastignac,
Ganczo, Kamidas, Jeżyk, Peradius, Husarion, Matijas, Ghazi, lysy890, Dzastinek. and more TBA
Class (Surprise):(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi39.tinypic.com%2Fs1kk9c.png&hash=26f659ffcb593e6f2ffc39716ef3955357de3706)
PS Everyting was discussed with Polish cav community. :)(https://i.imgur.com/8SNHQoH.png)
+1(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/kob/images/a/ad/Hussar.png/revision/latest?cb=20091228025228)PolandProposition of captain: Zahari (https://steamcommunity.com/id/z-h---/)
Proposition of vice-captain: Pliskin (https://steamcommunity.com/id/jadepipe/)
Expected team members: Zahari, Pliskin, Rastignac,
Ganczo, Kamidas, Jeżyk, Peradius, Husarion, Matijas, Ghazi, lysy890, Dzastinek. and more TBA
Class (Surprise):(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi39.tinypic.com%2Fs1kk9c.png&hash=26f659ffcb593e6f2ffc39716ef3955357de3706)
PS Everyting was discussed with Polish cav community. :) Proposition of polish national team
Proposition of polish national team(https://i.imgur.com/8SNHQoH.png)
- Expected Teams so far -
Germanic Countries
France
Poland
Italy
Spain
Turkey
Scandinavia
Benelux
Italy
Czech Republic & Slovakia
Russia & Ukraine
- Expected Teams so far -
Germanic Countries
France
Poland
Italy
Spain
Turkey
Scandinavia
Benelux
Italy
Czech Republic & Slovakia
Russia & Ukraine
Are Italians preparing two teams? :P
#ITALIASTRONK
Are Italians preparing two teams? :P
Application for Team Player,
Your Name: (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flaggenbilder.de%2Fnationalflaggen%2Fschweiz%2Fschweiz-fahne-004-rechteckig-relief-016x16-flaggenbilder.de.gif&hash=7269475093cc20b23e8568b1a2d1f5d5db11ae67) Swissy (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flaggenbilder.de%2Fnationalflaggen%2Fschweiz%2Fschweiz-fahne-004-rechteckig-relief-016x16-flaggenbilder.de.gif&hash=7269475093cc20b23e8568b1a2d1f5d5db11ae67)
Your Steam Name (please give a link): www.steamcommunity.com/id/SwissGronkh
Your Nation: Switzerland
Application for Team Player
Your Name: MrDixon
Your Steam Name (please give a link): https://steamcommunity.com/id/mrdicson (https://steamcommunity.com/id/mrdicson)
Your Nation: Spain
Application for Team Player
Your Name: MrDixon
Your Steam Name (please give a link): https://steamcommunity.com/id/mrdicson (https://steamcommunity.com/id/mrdicson)
Your Nation: Spain
funny
Application for Team Player
Your Name: MrDixon
Your Steam Name (please give a link): https://steamcommunity.com/id/mrdicson (https://steamcommunity.com/id/mrdicson)
Your Nation: Spain
funny
he plays with PlusUltra he understand a bit of spanish also he comes on summer to spain all the years so he is 2/4 of spanish guy xD
So who wants to make an Irish CNC team? Heck we might even be lancers
So who wants to make an Irish CNC team? Heck we might even be lancersAs far as I understood, lancers are not allowed?
Malheureusement that's true :'( ;D ;DSo who wants to make an Irish CNC team? Heck we might even be lancersAs far as I understood, lancers are not allowed?
Application for Team Captain
Your Name: Traeeseron
Your Steam Name (please give a link): https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198016912381/
Your Nation: Spain
Why you should be Captain (a long answer would be better): I led the spanish team in the others Cavalry Nations Cup, getting the 3rd place in 2015. Im well know in the spanish community and have experience leading and organizing a team. Im a veteran warband player and played competitive in native and mercenaries.
Application for Team Captain
Your Name: Traeeseron
Your Steam Name (please give a link): https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198016912381/
Your Nation: Spain
Why you should be Captain (a long answer would be better): I led the spanish team in the others Cavalry Nations Cup, getting the 3rd place in 2015. Im well know in the spanish community and have experience leading and organizing a team. Im a veteran warband player and played competitive in native and mercenaries.
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg-cache.cdn.gaiaonline.com%2F3a99d6c213eadd484c1eea0505ca9259%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fi1369.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag237%2Fkawaiipotatoe%2Fyes_zpsj7h6bsnv.gif&hash=f629e52642b8428887cd7259eef8905eabecb787)Application for Team Captain
Your Name: Traeeseron
Your Steam Name (please give a link): https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198016912381/
Your Nation: Spain
Why you should be Captain (a long answer would be better): I led the spanish team in the others Cavalry Nations Cup, getting the 3rd place in 2015. Im well know in the spanish community and have experience leading and organizing a team. Im a veteran warband player and played competitive in native and mercenaries.
ahu ahu ahu
Application for Team Player,Hit me up im the best
Your Name: Ciiges
Your Steam Name (please give a link): https://steamcommunity.com/id/ciiges
Your Nation: Spain
Application for Team Captain
Your Name: Traeeseron
Your Steam Name (please give a link): https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198016912381/
Your Nation: Spain
Why you should be Captain (a long answer would be better): I led the spanish team in the others Cavalry Nations Cup, getting the 3rd place in 2015. Im well know in the spanish community and have experience leading and organizing a team. Im a veteran warband player and played competitive in native and mercenaries.
Application for Team Player,Hit me up im the best
Your Name: Ciiges
Your Steam Name (please give a link): https://steamcommunity.com/id/ciiges
Your Nation: Spain
Application for Team Player
Your Name: Lorucas
Your Steam Name (please give a link): https://steamcommunity.com/id/Lorucas
Your Nation: España
Application for Team Player
Your Name: Lorucas
Your Steam Name (please give a link): https://steamcommunity.com/id/Lorucas
Your Nation: España
Not u !!! :D
Wont be taking part in it this time but will try and keep up with the results :D
Was just wondering, is there even a benelux team being formed?
However it's safe to say that as a captain, it will be the last.
is my time to shine
Application for Team Player,
Your Name:Alexander
Your Steam Name (please give a link):https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198537472313/
Your Nation:Germany
Application for Team Player,
Your Name: de Caulaincourt
Your Steam Name (please give a link): https://steamcommunity.com/id/decaulaincourt/
Your Nation: Benelux
Application for Team Captain,Emmett , Diarmuid Here! Currently assembling an Irish Lancer team, wanted to get a team together before I posted an application for captain so!
Your Name: Emmet/Irish
Your Steam Name (please give a link): https://steamcommunity.com/id/Evil_Bosco/
Your Nation: Ireland, I do hope for an Irish team to be started up. We have a good following along with a good standard of players.
Why you should be Captain (a long answer would be better): I am a veteran among the cavalry community having lead many a man as an officer in many situations, experience in leadership is least of my worries. After last years victory playing for another nation, The United Kingdom I wish to have a chance at representing my home nation and bringing the lead on that
goal. I feel I can bring many Irish players together as a tightly knit team to bring our full potential out.
I believe this gives me enough experience to prepare a team & turn it into effective force. Irish cavalry in NW is somewhat small but still keeps remarkable potential.
| Your Name: Your Steam Name (please give a link): What would you like to do in the Media Team? (Videos / Videos & Commentaries / Interviews...): |
Let's just make one thing clear: Irish lancer team is only a joke, right?Erik has given me his word that If I can put together a team of Irish players then we may play lancers
Let's just make one thing clear: Irish lancer team is only a joke, right?Erik has given me his word that If I can put together a team of Irish players then we may play lancers
Application for Team Player,
Your Name: Alexisse
Your Steam Name (please give a link): https://steamcommunity.com/id/alexisselevil/
Your Nation: UK
How long untill signups end? Since there is still nobody that applied for BeNeLux captain, I migbt have to do it mysef.
Let's just make one thing clear: Irish lancer team is only a joke, right?Erik has given me his word that If I can put together a team of Irish players then we may play lancers
I wish I was Irish :-\
We'll form our own lancer nation, The Union of Lancer Socialist Republics! LONG LIVE THE ULSRLet's just make one thing clear: Irish lancer team is only a joke, right?Erik has given me his word that If I can put together a team of Irish players then we may play lancers
I wish I was Irish :-\
Erik Le Rouge, Can you formally state to these lads the conditions of our agreement?
Erik Le Rouge, Can you formally state to these lads the conditions of our agreement?
Application for Team Player,
Your Name: Alexisse
Your Steam Name (please give a link): https://steamcommunity.com/id/alexisselevil/
Your Nation: UK
Your profile says you're French? Clarify this please hahaa
Erik Le Rouge, Can you formally state to these lads the conditions of our agreement?
Team Scandinavia; Norden ("the North")
Captain: Rhen [1]
Vice-Captain: Norwegian (https://steamcommunity.com/id/NorwegianVonWettin/) [2] - Contact Norwegian for all matters. If he's unavailable, be patient.
Andros [3], Almqvist [4], Uganda888 [5], Selavantor [6], Noot [7], WarClever [8], Iroulf [9], Stark [10], Bobu [11], Dizaster [12], ...
The reason I'm posting this before we have reached the limit is to show that Scandinavia (or the Nordic countries, rather) will be taking part. Others will be added through editing this post.
Edit: Dizaster [12]
I will post all members here on this forum once the team is made, I sincerely hope you keep your word Erik!Erik Le Rouge, Can you formally state to these lads the conditions of our agreement?
Before anything is decided you should try and make it happen. So far about 4 Irishmen signed up, two of them applying for Captain... I'm not saying it's not gonna happen, if you truly want to make a serious team for the event I hope you'll be able to, but I'm not quite sure there'll be enough men.
I have to remind you that players must have the nationality of their Nation's team. No exception will be allowed. This goes, of course, for every team.Team Scandinavia; Norden ("the North")
Captain: Rhen [1]
Vice-Captain: Norwegian (https://steamcommunity.com/id/NorwegianVonWettin/) [2] - Contact Norwegian for all matters. If he's unavailable, be patient.
Andros [3], Almqvist [4], Uganda888 [5], Selavantor [6], Noot [7], WarClever [8], Iroulf [9], Stark [10], Bobu [11], Dizaster [12], ...
The reason I'm posting this before we have reached the limit is to show that Scandinavia (or the Nordic countries, rather) will be taking part. Others will be added through editing this post.
Edit: Dizaster [12]
I have to tell you the same thing I told the Poles: you cannot post a team like that and expect it to be official. You must first apply for Captain, and if you are chosen (which you are most likely to be Rhen), then you can post your roster and it'll be official and added to the post. Things must be done in order.
This said, I am really happy to see that we will have a Scandinavian team this year! You guys missing last year's CNC was a bit sad, it'll be good to see the Northmen once again.
But please, apply for Captain before anything else is done.
Glenn is blacklisted from the event. He is not allowed to join his country's team, and any reply he posts on this thread will be removed. This decision is due to him sharing a screenshot of a private message I sent him on FSE, which is obviously forbidden by any decent forum's rules, including this one.
This said, I am really happy to see that we will have a Scandinavian team this year! You guys missing last year's CNC was a bit sad, it'll be good to see the Northmen once again.Just a bit guys. Sry. Erik will rig da game
This said, I am really happy to see that we will have a Scandinavian team this year! You guys missing last year's CNC was a bit sad, it'll be good to see the Northmen once again.Just a bit guys. Sry. Erik will rig da game
6. Teams will have to pick one unit between the following: Hussar, Cuirassier, Dragoon, and will have to stick to it throughout the competition.
Goddamn it, Maxim, just say it's only a PROPOSITION.
...you cannot post a team like that and expect it to be official. You must first apply for CaptainEdit: Forgot you Applied for Russia.
...you cannot post a team like that and expect it to be official. You must first apply for Captain
I think it doesn't matter if you applied, Erik hadn't name you a captain officially, so you can't officially post a squad, or at least that's what we were told when we posted ours.
Application for Team Captain
Your Name: Skittles
Your Steam Name (please give a link): https://steamcommunity.com/id/SirSkittles/
Your Nation: United Kingdom
Why you should be Captain (a long answer would be better):
Played cavalry competitively for years, including the year United Kingdom won this competition. So basically put... I am funny, handsome, and everyone pretty much wants to be my friend and stuff soooo, yeah, make me Captain. Make UK great again :)
Glenn is blacklisted from the event. He is not allowed to join his country's team, and any reply he posts on this thread will be removed. This decision is due to him sharing a screenshot of a private message I sent him on FSE, which is obviously forbidden by any decent forum's rules, including this one.
Glenn is blacklisted from the event. He is not allowed to join his country's team, and any reply he posts on this thread will be removed. This decision is due to him sharing a screenshot of a private message I sent him on FSE, which is obviously forbidden by any decent forum's rules, including this one.
K8_Huss = team UK imo
SpoilerApplication for Team Captain
Your Name: Skittles
Your Steam Name (please give a link): https://steamcommunity.com/id/SirSkittles/
Your Nation: United Kingdom
Why you should be Captain (a long answer would be better):
Played cavalry competitively for years, including the year United Kingdom won this competition. So basically put... I am funny, handsome, and everyone pretty much wants to be my friend and stuff soooo, yeah, make me Captain. Make UK great again :)[close]
Not like you got any competition ;D
Application for Team Captain,
Your Name: Ciiges
Your Steam Name (please give a link): steamcommunity.com/id/ciiges
Your Nation: BeNeLux
Why you should be Captain (a long answer would be better): Since nobody else has applied I thought I'd take the initiative. I'm a well respected member of the native community, having been in many good teams and in most having had some form of command over the cavalry. I've participated in many nationcups in native too. I'll be looking to mix the modules a bit by getting some native Benelux guys to apply here aswell. This is my first time actually commanding but It'll be absolutely fine, I have the experience.
The Captain of France is : Erik.
Glenn is blacklisted from the event. He is not allowed to join his country's team, and any reply he posts on this thread will be removed. This decision is due to him sharing a screenshot of a private message I sent him on FSE, which is obviously forbidden by any decent forum's rules, including this one.
(https://i.imgur.com/LFPfMAO.png)
Lol,Caucasian not the captain of the Turkish Team.He will play anyway lel
For Karzark:
Application for Team Player,
Your Name: Karzark
Your Steam Name (please give a link): https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198105813955/ (https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198105813955/)
Your Nation: UK
Y slavic countries has no flag? OH SORRY THERE IS NO COUNTRY LIKE THATtriggered
He will defeat you anyway. In every server, every game. Nation Team captain going to lose random loser player?Y slavic countries has no flag? OH SORRY THERE IS NO COUNTRY LIKE THATtriggered
but you not a captain so hehe,you are a LOSER.
He will defeat you anyway. In every server, every game. Nation Team captain going to lose random loser player?Y slavic countries has no flag? OH SORRY THERE IS NO COUNTRY LIKE THATtriggered
but you not a captain so hehe,you are a LOSER.
(https://i.imgur.com/qhmAZXU.gif)(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/kob/images/a/ad/Hussar.png/revision/latest?cb=20091228025228)PolandCaptain: Zahari (https://steamcommunity.com/id/z-h---/)
Vice-Captain: Pliskin (https://steamcommunity.com/id/jadepipe/)
Team members: Zahari, Pliskin, Rastignac,
Ganczo, Kamidas, Jeżyk, Peradius, Husarion, Matijas, Ghazi, lysy890, Dzastinek. and more TBA
Class (Surprise):(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi39.tinypic.com%2Fs1kk9c.png&hash=26f659ffcb593e6f2ffc39716ef3955357de3706)
PS Everyting was discussed with Polish cav community. :)(https://i.imgur.com/8SNHQoH.png)
Application for Team Player,
Your Name : Harford
Your Steam Name (please give a link): https://steamcommunity.com/id/Subliz
Your Nation : Turkey
The list of players looking to join their nations' teams has been updated. Hope I didn't forget anyone.
Application for Team Player,
Your Name : Harford
Your Steam Name (please give a link): https://steamcommunity.com/id/Subliz
Your Nation : Turkey
Where are all my NA boys at ??? Ez win for us
Dans cette compétition c'est non aux Algériens car tu ne peux pas vérifier l'identité mais les Français non plus finalement
When does it start?
how come your guys' stuff is better-organised, faster and more-inclusive than whatever nations cup shit infantry does, sad sad sad
Germany wins anyways
Cav & Inf
::)Spoilerjk inf sucks[close]
liesGermany wins anyways
Cav & Inf
::)Spoilerjk inf sucks[close]
sad sad sad they lost 8-0 to fra back in 2015 :^)
not this time 8)Germany wins anyways
Cav & Inf
::)Spoilerjk inf sucks[close]
sad sad sad they lost 8-0 to fra back in 2015 :^)
Looks like Benelux is going to have an impressive team!
Can't wait to win this thing.
make asia team too plzzz
how come your guys' stuff is better-organised, faster and more-inclusive than whatever nations cup shit infantry does, sad sad sad
Germany wins anyways
Cav & Inf
::Spoilerjk inf sucks[close]
if im captain nomake asia team too plzzz
I can speak korean does that count?
T'es nul michelle! :-*Germany wins anyways
Cav & Inf
::)Spoilerjk inf sucks[close]
sad sad sad they lost 8-0 to fra back in 2015 :^)
The german team so far:
Class: Hussars
1. Fidje (Captain)
2. Dokletian (Vice Captain)
3. Thales
4. FelgenRalle
5. DarkHawk
6. Goodest
7. Bauer
8. DE14HANNES
9. Blader
10. targeknight
11. Carlok
12. Termi
13. Felix
14. Angel
15. Rapez
16. Recker
17. Tim
More will be added in the future!
The german team so far:
Class: Hussars
1. Fidje (Captain)
2. Dokletian (Vice Captain)
3. Thales
4. FelgenRalle
5. DarkHawk
6. Goodest
7. Bauer
8. DE14HANNES
9. Blader
10. targeknight
11. Carlok
12. Termi
13. Felix
14. Angel
15. Rapez
16. Recker
17. Tim
More will be added in the future!
The german team so far:
Class: Hussars
1. Fidje (Captain)
2. Dokletian (Vice Captain)
3. Thales
4. FelgenRalle
5. DarkHawk
6. Goodest
7. Bauer
8. DE14HANNES
9. Blader
10. targeknight
11. Carlok
12. Termi
13. Felix
14. Angel
15. Rapez
16. Recker
17. Tim
More will be added in the future!
Captains have to wait until after the Captains Meeting to post their teams. I don't want some teams to be announced while some of the Captains are still not named.I just wanted to show that we weren‘t idle the last days as I‘ve got asked about the german team pretty often.
how come your guys' stuff is better-organised, faster and more-inclusive than whatever nations cup shit infantry does, sad sad sadsince evan and hekko the ones to organise inf nations cup were autists
HELLO?!?!?!how come your guys' stuff is better-organised, faster and more-inclusive than whatever nations cup shit infantry does, sad sad sadsince evan and hekko the ones to organise inf nations cup were autists
but yeah this is organised very smoothly im impressed
how come your guys' stuff is better-organised, faster and more-inclusive than whatever nations cup shit infantry does, sad sad sadsince evan and hekko the ones to organise inf nations cup were autists
but yeah this is organised very smoothly im impressed
Application for Team Player. Slavic Team
Your Name: Schweinebauer
Your Steam Name (please give a link): https://steamcommunity.com/id/PigMan98/
Your Nation: Croatia
Pleasant to see this new edition! Good luck everyone ;)
| Application for Team Player Your Name: Your Steam Name (please give a link): Your Nation: | Voland https://steamcommunity.com/id/rommstar Germany |
(https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/43/4/1509053385-5d0664caca193332f24f1e1d656ef19f.png)
The Captain of Ireland is : Irish.
(https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/43/4/1509053385-5d0664caca193332f24f1e1d656ef19f.png)
The Captain of Ireland is : Irish.
WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED HE WOULD BE IRISH EH?
Some K8_Huss for example!
(https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/43/4/1509053385-5d0664caca193332f24f1e1d656ef19f.png)
The Captain of Ireland is : Irish.
WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED HE WOULD BE IRISH EH?
I certainly wouldn't. Is there no Royal officer available to be dispatched from London and take command of the provincial forces?
u nibbers his name is irish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Some K8_Huss for example!
(https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/43/4/1509053385-5d0664caca193332f24f1e1d656ef19f.png)
The Captain of Ireland is : Irish.
WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED HE WOULD BE IRISH EH?
I certainly wouldn't. Is there no Royal officer available to be dispatched from London and take command of the provincial forces?
Some K8_Huss for example!
(https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/43/4/1509053385-5d0664caca193332f24f1e1d656ef19f.png)
The Captain of Ireland is : Irish.
WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED HE WOULD BE IRISH EH?
I certainly wouldn't. Is there no Royal officer available to be dispatched from London and take command of the provincial forces?
Application for Team Player
Your Name: Cr3A
Your Steam Name (please give a link): https://steamcommunity.com/id/whosaiditwasnt/
Your Nation: France
Precisions : Old player of the 8e Huss
Application for Team Player
Your Name: Cr3A
Your Steam Name (please give a link): https://steamcommunity.com/id/whosaiditwasnt/
Your Nation: France
Precisions : Old player of the 8e Huss
u nibbers his name is irish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Some K8_Huss for example!
(https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/43/4/1509053385-5d0664caca193332f24f1e1d656ef19f.png)
The Captain of Ireland is : Irish.
WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED HE WOULD BE IRISH EH?
I certainly wouldn't. Is there no Royal officer available to be dispatched from London and take command of the provincial forces?
u nibbers his name is irish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Some K8_Huss for example!
(https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/43/4/1509053385-5d0664caca193332f24f1e1d656ef19f.png)
The Captain of Ireland is : Irish.
WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED HE WOULD BE IRISH EH?
I certainly wouldn't. Is there no Royal officer available to be dispatched from London and take command of the provincial forces?
You nibbers that's the JOKE
my eyes are weak to high tech memes!!!!!!1!!!!1!!!!!11!!!!u nibbers his name is irish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Some K8_Huss for example!
(https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/43/4/1509053385-5d0664caca193332f24f1e1d656ef19f.png)
The Captain of Ireland is : Irish.
WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED HE WOULD BE IRISH EH?
I certainly wouldn't. Is there no Royal officer available to be dispatched from London and take command of the provincial forces?
You nibbers that's the JOKE
Glad to see another big tournament for the cavalry community. In spring another cnwl please, the cavalry community is still strong in numbers and regiments!
Edit: Good luck with the event Erik, your engagement for the community is still very much appreciated.
Important question:
Will catalans be allowed into the spanish team?
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-NQ1HZqFFRjI%2FT3jJ5mNvK1I%2FAAAAAAAAAGA%2F51kzwhUJeK4%2Fs1600%2Fmexican.jpg&hash=86c0b8a4462efc668d6248ea19a8d8899c4986d0)
Edit²: Application for Referee,
Your Name: Kanade Tachibana
Your Steam Name (please give a link): Wüstenkrieger (https://steamcommunity.com/id/3525934023945802345)
Why you should be Referee: I have a history of beeing referee, or organizing cavalry tournaments and leagues. Much experience, appreciation and neutrality. Also I was a referee in the last CNC edition. I will be active to be contacted for matches and reliable to do so then.
Glad to see another big tournament for the cavalry community. In spring another cnwl please, the cavalry community is still strong in numbers and regiments!
Edit: Good luck with the event Erik, your engagement for the community is still very much appreciated.
Important question:
Will catalans be allowed into the spanish team?
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-NQ1HZqFFRjI%2FT3jJ5mNvK1I%2FAAAAAAAAAGA%2F51kzwhUJeK4%2Fs1600%2Fmexican.jpg&hash=86c0b8a4462efc668d6248ea19a8d8899c4986d0)
Edit²: Application for Referee,
Your Name: Kanade Tachibana
Your Steam Name (please give a link): Wüstenkrieger (https://steamcommunity.com/id/3525934023945802345)
Why you should be Referee: I have a history of beeing referee, or organizing cavalry tournaments and leagues. Much experience, appreciation and neutrality. Also I was a referee in the last CNC edition. I will be active to be contacted for matches and reliable to do so then.
Application for Team CaptainThe captain of Italy is: italian
Your Name: Piccolomini
Your Steam Name (please give a link): you have me
Your Nation: Italy
Why you should be Captain (a long answer would be better): I have a lot of experience in cav, I led Italy in the past two CNCs and have been asked by the Italian community to take up this role again this year.
Application for Team Captainalla fine
Your Name: Piccolomini
Your Steam Name (please give a link): you have me
Your Nation: Italy
Why you should be Captain (a long answer would be better): I have a lot of experience in cav, I led Italy in the past two CNCs and have been asked by the Italian community to take up this role again this year.
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Rule n°6 : The Lancer class is now allowed.
Dont allow lancers, they were banned for a reason. Its just a broken class wich will force every other team to play lancer aswell.
The german team so far:
Class:HussarsLancer
1. Fidje (Captain)
2. Dokletian (Vice Captain)
3. Thales
4. FelgenRalle
5. DarkHawk
6. Goodest
7. Bauer
8. DE14HANNES
9. Blader
10. targeknight
11. Carlok
12. Termi
13. Felix
14. Angel
15. Rapez
16. Recker
17. Tim
More will be added in the future!
Dont allow lancers, they were banned for a reason. Its just a broken class wich will force every other team to play lancer aswell.
What about the fact that we‘ve got another nation because of that tradeoff?Dont allow lancers, they were banned for a reason. Its just a broken class wich will force every other team to play lancer aswell.
+1
What about the fact that we‘ve got another nation because of that tradeoff?Dont allow lancers, they were banned for a reason. Its just a broken class wich will force every other team to play lancer aswell.
+1
It seems like this decision was taken on the base of a democratic election, so it's absolute nonsense to moan about it.
it was a democratic decision, but it doesn't make it any less of a retarded idea.
it was a democratic decision, but it doesn't make it any less of a retarded idea.
The only logical conclusion to draw from this sentence is that the captains are a group of retards.
Hmmm...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWxvipSP0lE
What about the fact that we‘ve got another nation because of that tradeoff?Dont allow lancers, they were banned for a reason. Its just a broken class wich will force every other team to play lancer aswell.
+1
haha, the most problem that our team will need to play against them xD. Just lancers it is campers of the cav,thats all.They will also retreat and this all shit stuff. If lancers will be noobs,we can kill them if not , it will be really hard.What about the fact that we‘ve got another nation because of that tradeoff?Dont allow lancers, they were banned for a reason. Its just a broken class wich will force every other team to play lancer aswell.
+1
So what? Are we gonna break the cav meta just for one nation wich wants to be babysitted? Are we flyng that low, really? I cant just get into my brain how a group of suppossedly veterans of the cavalry community have allowed for lancers to be playable again, after all these years. A class wich is BROKEN in every sense and was banned because it made the rest of the classes useless. It has been proven before years ago and it will be proven again now in this tournament if you dont rethink about that decision.
It wont make the tournament diverse, It wont make the tournament fresh, It wont make the tournament better or more fun in any way. It will make it worse. I cant belive that i have to explain this dumb shit to a bunch of guys who have been playing cavalry for years. You should know this, lancers are just fucking basic, they are broken shit.
Never said I would appreciate the change of the rulebook, I do hate lancers as well (ask literally every Irish player) but I like the thought to face another group of players, doesn‘t matter which class they actually play.
What about the fact that we‘ve got another nation because of that tradeoff?Dont allow lancers, they were banned for a reason. Its just a broken class wich will force every other team to play lancer aswell.
+1
So what? Are we gonna break the cav meta just for one nation wich wants to be babysitted? Are we flyng that low, really? I cant just get into my brain how a group of suppossedly veterans of the cavalry community have allowed for lancers to be playable again, after all these years. A class wich is BROKEN in every sense and was banned because it made the rest of the classes useless. It has been proven before years ago and it will be proven again now in this tournament if you dont rethink about that decision.
It wont make the tournament diverse, It wont make the tournament fresh, It wont make the tournament better or more fun in any way. It will make it worse. I cant belive that i have to explain this dumb shit to a bunch of guys who have been playing cavalry for years. You should know this, lancers are just fucking basic, they are broken shit.
What about the fact that we‘ve got another nation because of that tradeoff?Dont allow lancers, they were banned for a reason. Its just a broken class wich will force every other team to play lancer aswell.
+1
So what? Are we gonna break the cav meta just for one nation wich wants to be babysitted? Are we flyng that low, really? I cant just get into my brain how a group of suppossedly veterans of the cavalry community have allowed for lancers to be playable again, after all these years. A class wich is BROKEN in every sense and was banned because it made the rest of the classes useless. It has been proven before years ago and it will be proven again now in this tournament if you dont rethink about that decision.
It wont make the tournament diverse, It wont make the tournament fresh, It wont make the tournament better or more fun in any way. It will make it worse. I cant belive that i have to explain this dumb shit to a bunch of guys who have been playing cavalry for years. You should know this, lancers are just fucking basic, they are broken shit.
Right first and foremost, every class in this game is balanced. The hussar has more speed and agility, the heavy has a bigger sword and more health at the cost of a slower horse. The lancer has a lance and the couch ability at the cost of a less agile and slower horse than a hussar, not only that the lance cant block an incoming attack. Again people argue that a lancer can just pull out a sabre however by the time i switch from my lance to sabre i'm as good as dead. This "meta" has discriminated against lancers for years, you seem adamantly against lancer and therefore against equality and diversity in the game. By allowing lancer we are re-enfranchising people to the competitive scene again.
Lancers are everytime retreat and play like faggots and campers because it’s the best tactic to win.lancer in a nutshell
HOW DARE YOU UNDERMINE ERIK'S WISDOM IF HE AGREED FOR LANCERS HE MUST HAVE SOMETHNG GENIUS IN MIND AND A THOUSAND REASONS WHICH YOU CAN'T SEE AND COMPREHED BUT ARE OUT THERE NEVERTHELESSKiss me rasti
jk
I'm all for lancers being allowed in CNC, but in same way the dragoons were sometimes allowed in leagues and tournaments, that is - not using their primary weapon (gun, in this case, lance). How about that, haaa? HOW ABOUT THAT?!?!!? BASTARDS
Regardless of all possible arguments for lancers being balanced and fair in competition, the simple facts stand:
a) Irish team, being lancers, will be subjected to ostracism from majority of players
b) even the teams for which Irish team will be relatively easy opponent will treat their match with Ireland as "God, do we have to do it...?"
c) in consequence, torment and nuisance instead of fun for players who face Ireland AND fun stained in bad blood and disaffection coming from colleagues for the Irish players
*point c) not being a problem for Diartmund who seems to love annoying people
Irish fgt here, just here to say we’re gonna fook you smelly tacos especially termito and any ciAwk baby add me on steam
Lancers are everytime retreat and play like faggots and campers because it’s the best tactic to win.That is the tactic of all classes, and is depending on the players, not the class. Just remember the match between Spain and Germany 2 years ago. Some rounds took for ages, unfortunatly because of the playing behaviour of the german team.
Team Turkey Rooster.
Class: Hussars
Captain: (https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)Gameshero
Vice-Captain: (https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)Levoro
Members:
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)1 •Gameshero
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)2 •Levoro
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)3 •Caucasian
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)4 •Delitürk
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)5 •Hanfiri
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)6 •Rumil
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)7 •Kerpit
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)8 •Yeggca
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)9 •Quake
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)10 •Adilhan
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)11 •Atesceken37
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)12 •Erdem
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)13 •LUGER
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)14 • Sonkurt
Total: 14 (I will add another members soon.)
Im from native and I play lancer there 24/7, I barely play sword cav. But I too agree that lancers in a cav v cav tournament in NW shoul NOT be allowed, there are many reasons, main one being reach and couches. Lances are shorter here than in native, but still have more reach and are more manuevreble than swords, making them great for cav v cav. Second point is NW doesnt have shields, now normally for cav v cav this is no problem, for if someone is trying to bumpslash you, you can just dodge and BLOCK the attack, but with a nicely aimed lance you're screwed. The imbalance of the lance is not as major as people here say, but it's big enough to give the edge in a 8v8, 10v10 or 12v12 cav battle in NW.That there are no shields in NW actually is a disadvantage for the lancer.
So half the teams in the tournament won't even have to deal with lancers at all.
Put a good hussar against a good lancer fighting on his lancer horse and with his sword, the hussar shouldn't be frightened one bit. He is slightly quicker and a lot more maneuverable, he should beat him without too many problems.
Whether we like it or not, and I for one do not like it.
Lancers will be here this year. And we can no longer change it. All the captains voted on it and it won.
The only thing we can do now is prepare for lancers, and know how to deal with them. And as Erik said, not too many nations will go lancers asfar as we know.
And I don't think lancers are as OP as everyone here thinks, as Erik also said. They have weak points where you can exploit them, just like other classes do. But they also have the strong points which everyone is hating on... But so do other classes, most hate probably comes from the fact that not many people play it. So people like Diarmuid who are capable at playing lancer and do it alot will own us on CavGF or somewhere else due to him understanding the class, when we have no clue how to deal with it.
Really, I'm sure you can find someone who knows alot about lancers in your teams that can help you understand how to beat them. And most of us won't have to deal with it either way.
Rename the thread "Diarmuid Appreciation Cup" Love you all lads <3
I'm all for lancers being allowed in CNC, but in same way the dragoons were sometimes allowed in leagues and tournaments, that is - not using their primary weapon (gun, in this case, lance). How about that, haaa? HOW ABOUT THAT?!?!!? BASTARDS
Regardless of all possible arguments for lancers being balanced and fair in competition, the simple facts stand:
a) Irish team, being lancers, will be subjected to ostracism from majority of players
b) even the teams for which Irish team will be relatively easy opponent will treat their match with Ireland as "God, do we have to do it...?"
c) in consequence, torment and nuisance instead of fun for players who face Ireland AND fun stained in bad blood and disaffection coming from colleagues for the Irish players
*point c) not being a problem for Diartmund who seems to love annoying people
Team Turkey Rooster.
Class: Hussars
Captain: (https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)Gameshero
Vice-Captain: (https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)Levoro
Members:
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)1 •Gameshero
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)2 •Levoro
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)3 •Caucasian
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)4 •Delitürk
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)5 •Hanfiri
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)6 •Rumil
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)7 •Kerpit
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)8 •Yeggca
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)9 •Quake
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)10 •Adilhan
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)11 •Atesceken37
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)12 •Erdem
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)13 •LUGER
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)14 • Sonkurt
Total: 14 (I will add another members soon.)
Team Turkey Rooster.
Class: Hussars
Captain: (https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)Gameshero
Vice-Captain: (https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)Levoro
Members:
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)1 •Gameshero
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)2 •Levoro
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)3 •Caucasian
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)4 •Delitürk
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)5 •Hanfiri
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)6 •Rumil
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)7 •Kerpit
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)8 •Yeggca
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)9 •Quake
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)10 •Adilhan
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)11 •Atesceken37
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)12 •Erdem
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)13 •LUGER
(https://muh.nevsehir.edu.tr/images/tr.gif)14 • Sonkurt
Total: 14 (I will add another members soon.)
Updated.
The german team so far:
Class:HussarsLancer
1. Fidje (Captain)
2. Dokletian (Vice Captain)
3. Thales
4. FelgenRalle
5. DarkHawk
6. Goodest
7. Bauer
8. DE14HANNES
9. Blader
10. targeknight
11. Carlok
12. Termi
13. Felix
14. Angel
15. Rapez
16. Recker
17. Tim
More will be added in the future!
Dokle dieses Jahr holt ihr das Ding ja ;D
Your Name: Tardet
Your Steam Name: Tardet (https://steamcommunity.com/id/MndBTardet/)
Your Nation: France
Apparently the selections for the French Team are actually over but if you still need a rusty but experienced player, I'm available.
You be nice, Harfy :P
The lancer debate is interesting, if unsurprising. What is surprising is the result of the vote, I fully expected everyone to vote no. Kudos to everyone who voted yes! I look forward to facing you all in the tournament.
As Erik has noted there are checks and balances to each class. Lancers have great reach and couching is a powerful weapon. To counter that, our horses are slower and we do not have the ability to block. Hussars can outrun us, and if they have a numerical superiority, can lock us into a stop and an inevitable death. A good hussar - an actually good hussar - will have no trouble dealing with the best of lancers. There are hussars who destroy me on a daily basis, and while I would only consider myself a half-decent lancer (probably even only half a lancer since I don't couch if I can help it!), I get destroyed on a daily basis by hussars and I've seen it happen to all the great lancers I know.
Instead of screaming about broken classes (c'mon, this is M&B, there are so many things wrong and broken with it we've probably not even gotten to the bottom of that list), play against lancers and learn how to counter them. When I face the best hussars on the field and get annihilated by them every time, I don't bitch about it. I love it when that happens, as frustrating as it can get, because it's the best way for me to learn. When I face a powerful opponent I make that opponent my target as much as I can. The best never complain they're facing a lancer, never cry out the perennial "noob class" or "lancer cancer" insults, they engage with us happily and we get a real fight going.
These are some of the best moments in M&B for me, and I've been playing since alpha .400 of the original, way back in 2002-2003, I think. Sure it's great to see your name at the top of the scoreboard, but it's greater still to face an opponent of equal or greater skill and learn from them. I don't know about lancers being cowards and running away - I know I don't. I always gleefully charge at the opposing team, especially where the knot of enemies are thickest. I suppose the reputation comes from many people new to the game picking the lancer class and being terrible at it. Of the lancers I play with in tournaments, I would call none cowards. I will say that, focusing on enemy lancers whenever they appear, many players with names I don't recognise (and thus, possibly "noobs") do often tend to run away from me, so perhaps there is some truth to the claim... but not for the regulars. Not in the least, not in my experience.
There's a lot of salt in here. I thought for a moment that people might be happy to see some variety brought into the melee tournament, but maybe not. I guess there's nothing that needs to be said that already hasn't. I know a lot of players don't do well against lancers... though this will annoy Diarmuid, I can say there will at least be one lancer who won't use the couch to take you down from your horse (only on grounded opponents when we need to move things along). The reason I expected the vote to go against us is because it's obvious that a lot of people are worried. And... you know what?
They should be :)
What is surprising is the result of the vote, I fully expected everyone to vote no. Kudos to everyone who voted yes!
As Erik has noted there are checks and balances to each class. Lancers have great reach and couching is a powerful weapon. To counter that, our horses are slower and we do not have the ability to block. Hussars can outrun us, and if they have a numerical superiority, can lock us into a stop and an inevitable death.
ok
If I remember correctly, the whole vote to allow lancers presupposed that only Ireland would pick the class and that consequently just having one nation as lancers would not be much of a problem. The actual pros and cons of allowing the class were therefore also not discussed (or at least not thoroughly enough). All the nations have voted so not much can be done, but the voting definitely could have gone better if the ramifications of voting in favor of lancers would have been clearer from the get-go (considering multiple nations are now thinking of becoming lancers).
As someone who has played as a hussar for years, a lancer who is skill-wise on equal footing with a hussar will beat the hussar any day of the week. The reason why the lancer class is favorable to any of the other cavalry classes is the ability to switch to another weapon: had the lancers not have had the saber, it would hardly have been unbalanced. The only minor downside to playing a lancer is the medium horse, but this is overshadowed by the ability to couch lance / play on range / switch to another weapon. Naturally there are also upsides to playing any of the other classes, but they are not as great as that of the lancer - which in turn makes them unbalanced. I'm not saying lancers are easy to play, but they do have an advantage over all the other cavalry classes.
You be nice, Harfy :PYou'll couch god dammit
The lancer debate is interesting, if unsurprising. What is surprising is the result of the vote, I fully expected everyone to vote no. Kudos to everyone who voted yes! I look forward to facing you all in the tournament.
As Erik has noted there are checks and balances to each class. Lancers have great reach and couching is a powerful weapon. To counter that, our horses are slower and we do not have the ability to block. Hussars can outrun us, and if they have a numerical superiority, can lock us into a stop and an inevitable death. A good hussar - an actually good hussar - will have no trouble dealing with the best of lancers. There are hussars who destroy me on a daily basis, and while I would only consider myself a half-decent lancer (probably even only half a lancer since I don't couch if I can help it!), I get destroyed on a daily basis by hussars and I've seen it happen to all the great lancers I know.
Instead of screaming about broken classes (c'mon, this is M&B, there are so many things wrong and broken with it we've probably not even gotten to the bottom of that list), play against lancers and learn how to counter them. When I face the best hussars on the field and get annihilated by them every time, I don't bitch about it. I love it when that happens, as frustrating as it can get, because it's the best way for me to learn. When I face a powerful opponent I make that opponent my target as much as I can. The best never complain they're facing a lancer, never cry out the perennial "noob class" or "lancer cancer" insults, they engage with us happily and we get a real fight going.
These are some of the best moments in M&B for me, and I've been playing since alpha .400 of the original, way back in 2002-2003, I think. Sure it's great to see your name at the top of the scoreboard, but it's greater still to face an opponent of equal or greater skill and learn from them. I don't know about lancers being cowards and running away - I know I don't. I always gleefully charge at the opposing team, especially where the knot of enemies are thickest. I suppose the reputation comes from many people new to the game picking the lancer class and being terrible at it. Of the lancers I play with in tournaments, I would call none cowards. I will say that, focusing on enemy lancers whenever they appear, many players with names I don't recognise (and thus, possibly "noobs") do often tend to run away from me, so perhaps there is some truth to the claim... but not for the regulars. Not in the least, not in my experience.
There's a lot of salt in here. I thought for a moment that people might be happy to see some variety brought into the melee tournament, but maybe not. I guess there's nothing that needs to be said that already hasn't. I know a lot of players don't do well against lancers... though this will annoy Diarmuid, I can say there will at least be one lancer who won't use the couch to take you down from your horse (only on grounded opponents when we need to move things along). The reason I expected the vote to go against us is because it's obvious that a lot of people are worried. And... you know what?
They should be :)
You'll couch god dammit
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Double post, sorry about that.
Here is the map we will be using this year!
I will add it to the main post.
A server is already up: CavNationsCup_1. The pass to join it is : winter
If any team wants to join it to have a training or a friendly match, they may.
The other servers will be up later tonight or tomorrow.
One question: Is the Cpt of Ireland going to play as ranker or as officer because i think this could make an differenceOfficer
Application for Team Player,
Your Name: von~Jungingen
Your Steam Name (please give a link): https://steamcommunity.com/id/von_Jungingen
Your Nation: Ireland
Nice match FRA, very well played!
The german team so far:
Class: Hussars
1. Fidje (Captain)
2. Dokletian (Vice Captain)
3. Thales
4. FelgenRalle
5. DarkHawk
6. Goodest
7. Bauer
8. DE14HANNES
9. Blader
10. targeknight
11. Carlok
12. Termi
13. Felix
14. Angel
15. Rapez
16. Recker
17. Tim
18. Voland
19. dan1
20. R1CHARD
One slot will be added as soon as possible.
Nice match FRA, very well played!edited
The german team so far:
Class: Hussars
1. Fidje (Captain) (German)
2. Dokletian (Vice Captain) (German)
3. Thales (German)
4. FelgenRalle (German)
5. DarkHawk (German)
6. Goodest (German)
7. Bauer (German)
8. DE14HANNES (German)
9. Blader (German)
10. targeknight (German)
11. Carlok (Swiss)
12. Termi (German)
13. Felix (German)
14. Angel (German)
15. Rapez (German)
16. Recker (German)
17. Tim (German)
18. Voland (German)
19. dan1 (Swiss)
20. R1CHARD (German)
One slot will be added as soon as possible.
BeNeLux Roster:SpoilerUnit: Hussar
Captain: StephanGH
Vice-Captain: Clausewitz
1. StephanGH (NL)
2. Clausewitz (NL)
3. Lio (BE)
4. FreyrDS (BE)
5. Rhealder (BE)
6. Caulaincourt (BE)
7. Advide (BE)
8. Gio (BE)
9. Ciiges (NL)
10. Frank (NL)
11. Ghosts (NL)
12. Kane (NL)
13. Calvet (NL)
14. Northern (NL)
15. PyrosZ (NL)
16. Jan_Struyvenzandt (NL)
17. Gurai (NL)
18. Maxxxio (NL)
19. Zulu (NL)
20. Arjen (NL)[close]
No one here to defend Luxembourgs honor :3?
10. Kazi (Swiss)
10. Kazi (Swiss)
pretty sure swiss ppl arent allowed to play for FRA even if they're french speaking, take a look at Eous
American team:
Class: Hussars
Captain: Blucher
Vice-Captain: SillyWilly
1. Blucher (USA)
2. SillyWilly (USA)
3. R1senMadness (USA)
4. Inoua (CAN)
5. Emperor (CAN)
6. Vick(USA)
7. Bardic (USA)
8. Brandon (USA)
9. Ikumi (USA)
10.Kiri (USA)
11.Hotjoe (USA)
12.Virus (USA)
13.Curtis_Shuttler (USA)
14.Clean (USA)
15.Akula (USA)
16.Lurvy (USA)
17.Yoshie (CAN)
18.Bear (USA)
19.HERC (USA)
20.CrackerJack (USA)
21. LouisDeSnow
10. Kazi (Swiss)
pretty sure swiss ppl arent allowed to play for FRA even if they're french speaking, take a look at Eous
American team:
Class: Hussars
Captain: Blucher
Vice-Captain: SillyWilly
1. Blucher (USA)
2. SillyWilly (USA)
3. R1senMadness (USA)
4. Inoua (CAN)
5. Emperor (CAN)
6. Vick(USA)
7. Bardic (USA)
8. Brandon (USA)
9. Ikumi (USA)
10.Kiri (USA)
11.Hotjoe (USA)
12.Virus (USA)
13.Curtis_Shuttler (CAN)
14.Clean (USA)
15.Akula (USA)
16.Lurvy (USA)
17.Yoshie (CAN)
18.Bear (USA)
19.Shalo (USA)
20.CrackJack (USA)
21. Macbeth(USA)
Edited once againNice match FRA, very well played!edited
The german team so far:
Class: Hussars
1. Fidje (Captain) (German)
2. Dokletian (Vice Captain) (German)
3. Thales (German)
4. FelgenRalle (German)
5. DarkHawk (German)
6. Goodest (German)
7. Bauer (German)
8. DE14HANNES (German)
9. Blader (German)
10. targeknight (German)
11. Carlok (Swiss)
12. Termi (German)
13. Felix (German)
14. Angel (German)
15. Rapez (German)
16. Recker (German)
17. Tim (German)
18. Voland (German)
19. dan1 (Swiss)Onetwo slots will be added as soon as possible.
Turkish Team:
Captain: Levoro
Vice-Captain: Gameshero
1. Levoro ( Turkey )
2. Gameshero ( Turkey )
3. Caucasian ( Azerbaijan )
4. DeliTürk ( Turkey )
5. Hz.Hanfiri ( Turkey )
6. Rumil ( Turkey )
7. Kerpit ( Turkey )
8. Quake* ( Turkey )
9. Mr.Adilhan ( Turkey )
10. Atesceken70 ( Turkey )
11. ERDEM ( Turkey )
12. Luger ( Turkey )
13. Sonkurt ( Turkey )
14. AnatoliaTiger/flash ( Turkey )
15. Judg3y ( Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus )
16. Tamerlane ( Turkey )
17. Çömen Yılan ( Turkey )
18. UguroBi ( Turkey )
19. Harford ( Turkey )
Tag: TUR_Name
Unit: Hussars
The list will be edited.
We‘d really like to have a different picture.France has different pic tooSpoiler(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ae/a1/33/aea13373291f2fb6bad9f4ef64d82495.jpg)[close]
has to be white flag ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???We‘d really like to have a different picture.France has different pic tooSpoiler(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ae/a1/33/aea13373291f2fb6bad9f4ef64d82495.jpg)[close]Spoiler(https://i.hizliresim.com/POG3L8.jpg)[close]
No white was Monarchy flag ::)has to be white flag ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???We‘d really like to have a different picture.France has different pic tooSpoiler(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ae/a1/33/aea13373291f2fb6bad9f4ef64d82495.jpg)[close]Spoiler(https://i.hizliresim.com/POG3L8.jpg)[close]
We‘d really like to have a different picture.France has different pic tooSpoiler(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ae/a1/33/aea13373291f2fb6bad9f4ef64d82495.jpg)[close]Spoiler(https://i.hizliresim.com/POG3L8.jpg)[close]
First tournament I've actually been excited for in a while.
Polish pic:Polish quote:Spoiler(https://i0.wp.com/skeptoid.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/nazi-propaganda.jpg)[close]Spoiler(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fizquotes.com%2Fquotes-pictures%2Fquote-their-horse-cavalry-of-which-they-had-twelve-brigades-charged-valiantly-against-the-swarming-winston-churchill-219084.jpg&hash=b2b6284335092842b6f77807373843088e7181d7)[close]
Polish pic:germans win first round?????????????????????????Polish quote:Spoiler(https://i0.wp.com/skeptoid.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/nazi-propaganda.jpg)[close]Spoiler(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fizquotes.com%2Fquotes-pictures%2Fquote-their-horse-cavalry-of-which-they-had-twelve-brigades-charged-valiantly-against-the-swarming-winston-churchill-219084.jpg&hash=b2b6284335092842b6f77807373843088e7181d7)[close]
BeNeLux Roster:SpoilerUnit: Hussar
Captain: StephanGH
Vice-Captain: Clausewitz
1. StephanGH (NL)
2. Clausewitz (NL)
3. Lio (BE)
4. FreyrDS (BE)
5. Rhealder (BE)
6. Caulaincourt (BE)
7. Advide (BE)
8. Gio (BE)
9. Ciiges (NL)
10. Frank (NL)
11. Ghosts (NL)
12. Kane (NL)
13. Calvet (NL)
14. Northern (NL)
15. PyrosZ (NL)
16. Jan_Struyvenzandt (NL)
17. Gurai (NL)
18. Maxxxio (NL)
19. Zulu (NL)
20. Arjen (NL)[close]
No one here to defend Luxembourgs honor :3?
isnt mkunz italian?
cMON that's the coolest quote you could find on North American Cavalry? You got the Turks the sickest quote about whipping and the Ruskis bein the sponge but all you got for Team NA is "they had good cavalry."muricans never had good cavalry ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
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cMON that's the coolest quote you could find on North American Cavalry? You got the Turks the sickest quote about whipping and the Ruskis bein the sponge but all you got for Team NA is "they had good cavalry."
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Much better ;)cMON that's the coolest quote you could find on North American Cavalry? You got the Turks the sickest quote about whipping and the Ruskis bein the sponge but all you got for Team NA is "they had good cavalry."
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ACTUALLY it's pretty funny you come up with that little complaint now, because I have been looking for a better quote for the NA team just today, as I too found this one sucks.
I just changed it! How do you like that new one?
Nice typical EU jokecMON that's the coolest quote you could find on North American Cavalry? You got the Turks the sickest quote about whipping and the Ruskis bein the sponge but all you got for Team NA is "they had good cavalry."muricans never had good cavalry ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
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Bad Pakistani joke,Nice typical EU jokecMON that's the coolest quote you could find on North American Cavalry? You got the Turks the sickest quote about whipping and the Ruskis bein the sponge but all you got for Team NA is "they had good cavalry."muricans never had good cavalry ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
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Small change in our roster. Sorry for this xD
Changes:
Caulaincourt has been removed (Lack of time sadly)
I posted the full thing below for you :/SpoilerCaptain: (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853806-paysbas2.jpg) StephanGH
Vice-Captain: (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853806-paysbas2.jpg) Clausewitz
1. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853806-paysbas2.jpg) StephanGH
2. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853806-paysbas2.jpg) Clausewitz
3. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853806-paysbas2.jpg) Ciiges
4. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853806-paysbas2.jpg) Frank
5. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853806-paysbas2.jpg) Ghosts
6. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853806-paysbas2.jpg) Kane
7. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853806-paysbas2.jpg) Mkunz
8. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853806-paysbas2.jpg) Northern
9. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853806-paysbas2.jpg) PyrosZ
10. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853806-paysbas2.jpg) Jan Struyvenzandt
11. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853806-paysbas2.jpg) Gurai
12. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853806-paysbas2.jpg) Maxxxio
13. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853806-paysbas2.jpg) Zulu
14. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853806-paysbas2.jpg) Arjen
15. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853806-paysbas2.jpg) Yorick
16. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853808-belgique2.jpg) Lio
17. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853808-belgique2.jpg) FreyrDS
18. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853808-belgique2.jpg) Rhealder
19. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853808-belgique2.jpg) Advide
20. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853808-belgique2.jpg) Gio
Tag: BNL_Name
Unit: Hussars[close]
good biryani which murica doesnt hab ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;DBad Pakistani joke,Nice typical EU jokecMON that's the coolest quote you could find on North American Cavalry? You got the Turks the sickest quote about whipping and the Ruskis bein the sponge but all you got for Team NA is "they had good cavalry."muricans never had good cavalry ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
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when has Pakistan ever had good anything
17. Teams playing as lancers are not allowed to use the couched lance ability of the unit. If a player does it, he will be slain. If it continues, points might be taken off the guilty team. This goes for other classes who might pick a lance on the ground.
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After receiving lots of complaining regarding the fact that lancers were allowed into the tournament, I have been looking for a solution to try and make as many people happy as possible.
There was obviously no way I would ever come back on that decision, due to my personal beliefs that it should be allowed, and the fact that it was decided by a Captains vote.
However yesterday I did host another Captains vote, to decide wether lancers should be allowed to use the couched lance ability or not.
Now that all Captains have voted : the result is as follows:
YES, I think we should forbid the couched lance ability = 8 votes / 12
NO, I do not think we should change anything = 4 votes / 12
Therefore, new rule:Quote17. Teams playing are lancers are not allowed to use the couched lance ability of the unit. If a player does it, he will be slain. If it continues, points might be taken off the guilty team.
Thank you for taking good notes of it.
Also, this was decided by a vote between all of the 12 captains. I will remind you that the lancer class was allowed into the tournament by the exact same way, therefore I will apply the same "rules" to what's gonna follow on FSE. You may debate it, but any flaming or drama-filled post will be removed instantly. Keep all discussions polite or refrain from posting.
Hopefully this makes for a more fun and balanced tournament.
So in response to accusations that people don't know how to play against lancer, after lancer having been allowed, the mechanic which people don't know how to counter correctly has now been banned, really makes you think. Just because we've lost a lot of experienced players for this years tournament doesn't mean we can let the entire thing descend into degeneracy.
QuoteSo in response to accusations that people don't know how to play against lancer, after lancer having been allowed, the mechanic which people don't know how to counter correctly has now been banned, really makes you think. Just because we've lost a lot of experienced players for this years tournament doesn't mean we can let the entire thing descend into degeneracy.
It's not a matter of not being able to play against lancers: it's an issue of an already unbalanced class gaining an unfair advantage over the other classes , which do not have these advantages. This way, at the very least, the classes will be somewhat balanced. You can't speak of a fair competition if the odds are tipped in one class' favor from the start. The only argument I've seen raised by lancers thus far is that they haven't encountered hussars who are better them and that therefore the class is not unbalanced, which could easily be the result of a lack of skill on the lancer's part rather than the supposed balance of all the classes. There's too many advantages to playing a lancer in comparison to the other classes, and taking away one of those advantages brings back some much needed balance. Lancers will still be able to use their range and their saber(!), which should be more than enough.
I mean you say that its not that people don't know how to play against it, but if you ask someone like diarmuid about the difference in difficulty facing you for example, and facing someone intimately familiar with the class like myself, he'll tell you that they're very difference, if you can 1v1 diar and beat him with a similar scoreline to mine against him then maybe i'll accept the premise that people actually do know how to play vs lancers
I'd say rather that it was you rather that misunderstood me, in that, my point is that is there are disadvantages to the lancer class, which i take advantage of regularly, the reason we say you don't know how to play against l;ancers is that you don't take advantage of thos openings well enough, if you did, you wouldn't be calling lancers overpoweredI mean you say that its not that people don't know how to play against it, but if you ask someone like diarmuid about the difference in difficulty facing you for example, and facing someone intimately familiar with the class like myself, he'll tell you that they're very difference, if you can 1v1 diar and beat him with a similar scoreline to mine against him then maybe i'll accept the premise that people actually do know how to play vs lancers
You missed the point of my post entirely. Lancers keep pointing the finger to the opposition by saying they simply cannot play against them and that therefore the class should be allowed. Lancers have range, medium maneuverability and speed, the couch lancing ability and the ability to use a sword. Hussars have good maneuverability and speed, but have a very weak horse and very limited range. Heavies only have significant range and the ability to take more hits than other classes, with the major downside being their horse being incredibly slow. The pros and cons of the other classes are balanced, whereas with the lancer no such thing exists. What one particular person experiences does not discredit that.
I can see it now, without the couch and we're facing multiple grounded opponents, the entire thing comes to a halt as we strike and they block, over and over, and we are forced to resort to bumping into them to kill them, which takes time.
I'd say rather that it was you rather that misunderstood me, in that, my point is that is there are disadvantages to the lancer class, which i take advantage of regularly, the reason we say you don't know how to play against l;ancers is that you don't take advantage of thos openings well enough, if you did, you wouldn't be calling lancers overpoweredI mean you say that its not that people don't know how to play against it, but if you ask someone like diarmuid about the difference in difficulty facing you for example, and facing someone intimately familiar with the class like myself, he'll tell you that they're very difference, if you can 1v1 diar and beat him with a similar scoreline to mine against him then maybe i'll accept the premise that people actually do know how to play vs lancers
You missed the point of my post entirely. Lancers keep pointing the finger to the opposition by saying they simply cannot play against them and that therefore the class should be allowed. Lancers have range, medium maneuverability and speed, the couch lancing ability and the ability to use a sword. Hussars have good maneuverability and speed, but have a very weak horse and very limited range. Heavies only have significant range and the ability to take more hits than other classes, with the major downside being their horse being incredibly slow. The pros and cons of the other classes are balanced, whereas with the lancer no such thing exists. What one particular person experiences does not discredit that.
Its hard to make balance changes while not having any cnc match material to go off to see how balanced it is howeverI can see it now, without the couch and we're facing multiple grounded opponents, the entire thing comes to a halt as we strike and they block, over and over, and we are forced to resort to bumping into them to kill them, which takes time.
You're forgetting that you've got the ability to switch to a saber there. If you find yourself in a situation where you have for instance 6 mounted men, facing 7 or 8 enemy dismounted. Then you can have 3 of your men fighting with their lanced, the other 3 using the saber. The combination of two weapons is and always has been extremely deadly on NW.
You guys must remember that this is the first time that the lancer class is allowed at a CNC. Obviously we can't expect things to be 100% perfect from day 1. We are still making changes to try and make things as balanced as possible. I honestly don't believe the lancer class is nerfed by that vote decision to a point of becoming unplayable. All the good lancers I saw on this game used the normal lance hits a lot more than the couched ability.
I understand what you're trying to say, but that relies on the premise that what you are saying is correct, which it isn't... This continued argument of 'the advantages of a lancer outweigh the disadvantages compared to the other classes' has been worn out and holds very little value at this point.I'd say rather that it was you rather that misunderstood me, in that, my point is that is there are disadvantages to the lancer class, which i take advantage of regularly, the reason we say you don't know how to play against l;ancers is that you don't take advantage of thos openings well enough, if you did, you wouldn't be calling lancers overpoweredI mean you say that its not that people don't know how to play against it, but if you ask someone like diarmuid about the difference in difficulty facing you for example, and facing someone intimately familiar with the class like myself, he'll tell you that they're very difference, if you can 1v1 diar and beat him with a similar scoreline to mine against him then maybe i'll accept the premise that people actually do know how to play vs lancers
You missed the point of my post entirely. Lancers keep pointing the finger to the opposition by saying they simply cannot play against them and that therefore the class should be allowed. Lancers have range, medium maneuverability and speed, the couch lancing ability and the ability to use a sword. Hussars have good maneuverability and speed, but have a very weak horse and very limited range. Heavies only have significant range and the ability to take more hits than other classes, with the major downside being their horse being incredibly slow. The pros and cons of the other classes are balanced, whereas with the lancer no such thing exists. What one particular person experiences does not discredit that.
Again, the advantages of a lancer outweigh the disadvantages compared to the other classes. This continued argument of 'people can simply not play against us' has been worn out and holds very little value at this point. If you want to get the last word in be my guest, but at least try to discredit what I said rather than repeating the same point over and over.
I understand what you're trying to say, but that relies on the premise that what you are saying is correct, which it isn't...
You're forgetting that you've got the ability to switch to a saber there. If you find yourself in a situation where you have for instance 6 mounted men, facing 7 or 8 enemy dismounted. Then you can have 3 of your men fighting with their lanced, the other 3 using the saber. The combination of two weapons is and always has been extremely deadly on NW.
You guys must remember that this is the first time that the lancer class is allowed at a CNC. Obviously we can't expect things to be 100% perfect from day 1. We are still making changes to try and make things as balanced as possible. I honestly don't believe the lancer class is nerfed by that vote decision to a point of becoming unplayable. All the good lancers I saw on this game used the normal lance hits a lot more than the couched ability.
firstly, lack of blocking, secondly, you underestimate the disadvantage that the medium horse brings when taken in conjunction with the lack of blocking, furthermore, lances are more difficult to aim than a sword, making things like jump kills something that are much less reliable, furthermore, a soft hit with a lance is much worse than a soft hit with a sword, given the animation time of a lance being heavily weighted towards the beginning, so you have over a second in which you can't do anything once your lance soft hits. Furthermore, you are much less likely to kill a horse in one hit with one hit with a lance, and the areas which do more damage like the head and belly are even more difficult to hit than with a sword when you consider the difficulty of the lance to aim. Furthermore, the lancer being extremely manouverable is a misconception brought about by the fact that the lancer can turn very far with the swing on the left side, which can be avoided by going on the right, and is not effective against multiple opponents since to get that manouverability you have to go quite slowly, and there for the falsely coined "manouverable" style of lancer play is incompatible with a team battle format. In addition, the couch is easier to fight than you think, since couching against a mounted requires sufficient predictive skills that not everyone has, and can also be out-ranged with a well timed swing. If you complain about being couched in the back, consider that you could be killed by a sword swing to the back also. Furthermore, there are effective techniques to deal with a slow couch if you are dismounted, which don't work 100% of the time, but neither does else, I'd even teach it to you to prove it, but that's something that i'm not willing to do prior to cnc since it wouldn't be fair for me to teach people ways to counter the irish team. Is that enough disadvantages for you? Since i seem to be able to get by by exploiting them.QuoteI understand what you're trying to say, but that relies on the premise that what you are saying is correct, which it isn't...
Why is my premise not correct? Are there disadvantages other than the medium horse that apply only to lancers, and if so what are they?
firstly, lack of blocking
secondly, you underestimate the disadvantage that the medium horse brings when taken in conjunction with the lack of blocking
furthermore, a soft hit with a lance is much worse than a soft hit with a sword, given the animation time of a lance being heavily weighted towards the beginning, so you have over a second in which you can't do anything once your lance soft hit
furthermore, lances are more difficult to aim than a sword, making things like jump kills something that are much less reliable
Furthermore, you are much less likely to kill a horse in one hit with one hit with a lance, and the areas which do more damage like the head and belly are even more difficult to hit than with a sword when you consider the difficulty of the lance to aim.
Furthermore, the lancer being extremely manouverable is a misconception brought about by the fact that the lancer can turn very far with the swing on the left side, which can be avoided by going on the right, and is not effective against multiple opponents since to get that manouverability you have to go quite slowly, and there for the falsely coined "manouverable" style of lancer play is incompatible with a team battle format.
In addition, the couch is easier to fight than you think, since couching against a mounted requires sufficient predictive skills that not everyone has, and can also be out-ranged with a well timed swing. If you complain about being couched in the back, consider that you could be killed by a sword swing to the back also. Furthermore, there are effective techniques to deal with a slow couch if you are dismounted, which don't work 100% of the time, but neither does else
Quotefirstly, lack of blocking
The lancer has the saber to do the blocking for him, use it more effectively and this wouldn't be a problem. This is a skill-problem, not an inherent disadvantage of the class.Quotesecondly, you underestimate the disadvantage that the medium horse brings when taken in conjunction with the lack of blocking
This ties in with what I said before: lancers do not lack the ability to block. This is again not an actual disadvantage of the class but rather the misuse of the class. A skilled lancer would not have this problem to the extent that it could be classed as a disadvantage.Quotefurthermore, a soft hit with a lance is much worse than a soft hit with a sword, given the animation time of a lance being heavily weighted towards the beginning, so you have over a second in which you can't do anything once your lance soft hit
This could be a minor downside to the lancer class, but it's relatively insignificant on the larger scale of things when compared to other classes (who also have the same problem with soft hits).Quotefurthermore, lances are more difficult to aim than a sword, making things like jump kills something that are much less reliable
Lances require just as much timing and aiming as any of the other classes, which can all be practiced and again amounts to a lack of skill on your part rather than it being a disadvantage of the lancer class as a whole.QuoteFurthermore, you are much less likely to kill a horse in one hit with one hit with a lance, and the areas which do more damage like the head and belly are even more difficult to hit than with a sword when you consider the difficulty of the lance to aim.
This seems debatable, with enough speed a lancer is easily able to kill a horse with one hit. To add to that, they have the couch lancing ability which kills in one hit. A sword does not kill in one hit in all instances either and require the horseman to get very close to the opponent, whereas the lancer does not have to do this and can just keep jabbing away at a distance.QuoteFurthermore, the lancer being extremely manouverable is a misconception brought about by the fact that the lancer can turn very far with the swing on the left side, which can be avoided by going on the right, and is not effective against multiple opponents since to get that manouverability you have to go quite slowly, and there for the falsely coined "manouverable" style of lancer play is incompatible with a team battle format.
I never claimed that lancers were 'extremely maneuverable', they have decent maneuverability at best. This is actually like you say, one of their downsides.QuoteIn addition, the couch is easier to fight than you think, since couching against a mounted requires sufficient predictive skills that not everyone has, and can also be out-ranged with a well timed swing. If you complain about being couched in the back, consider that you could be killed by a sword swing to the back also. Furthermore, there are effective techniques to deal with a slow couch if you are dismounted, which don't work 100% of the time, but neither does else
Couch lancing alone is not the problem, it is the multitude of options the lancer has to his disposal which makes the class unbalanced. If the lancer did not have the sword, for instance, the couch lancing ability would not be a problem because there would be no way for them to block. Is it relatively easy to fight once you get the hang of it? - Sure, but that does not make it any less unbalanced.
So what this entire essay of yours actually amounts to is misconstruing that which I had already pointed out in a previous post, and also pointing out that lancers require skill to use (just like any other class). Furthermore, that's all I have to say about it. Lots of luck to the lancers this year :-*.
Oh also, "couched lancing alone is not a problem". Well since lancers have been democractically voted to be allowed and what the current discussion regards is the couch, you'll obviously be in favour of allowing couching then?
Quotefurthermore, lances are more difficult to aim than a sword, making things like jump kills something that are much less reliable
Lances require just as much timing and aiming as any of the other classes, which can all be practiced and again amounts to a lack of skill on your part rather than it being a disadvantage of the lancer class as a whole.
So much petty arguing.
Why can't the Irish team just be happy they got their lancers? Lancers have been banned for the last 3 years of this tournament, now we give them a sweetie and they want the whole bag instead.
You've got your long pointy sticks, you could've said thank you to all the voting captains, but instead you choose to argue about it because you haven't got EXACTLY what you want.
P.S: Lancers are overpowered in NW (and any module for that matter), and yes I am experienced as a lancer so you can't play the "YOU DONT KNOW WHAT UR ON ABOUT" card, so just get on with what you've been given like good little boys and girls and stop crying about everything xoxo
So much petty arguing.when ur name is narsus but pic is kaneki, no arslan love ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Why can't the Irish team just be happy they got their lancers? Lancers have been banned for the last 3 years of this tournament, now we give them a sweetie and they want the whole bag instead.
You've got your long pointy sticks, you could've said thank you to all the voting captains, but instead you choose to argue about it because you haven't got EXACTLY what you want.
P.S: Lancers are overpowered in NW (and any module for that matter), and yes I am experienced as a lancer so you can't play the "YOU DONT KNOW WHAT UR ON ABOUT" card, so just get on with what you've been given like good little boys and girls and stop crying about everything xoxo
I wont argue about the lancer as a broken class or not, but if you are going to limit the gameplay of lances let's not allow hussars to take heavy swords, heavies to take ligth horses and every other class from taking lances from the ground because is "too broken".
Allowing lancers and then, nerf them with this new rule doesnt seems to be the rigth way in my opinion.
So much petty arguing.
Why can't the Irish team just be happy they got their lancers? Lancers have been banned for the last 3 years of this tournament, now we give them a sweetie and they want the whole bag instead.
You've got your long pointy sticks, you could've said thank you to all the voting captains, but instead you choose to argue about it because you haven't got EXACTLY what you want.
P.S: Lancers are overpowered in NW (and any module for that matter), and yes I am experienced as a lancer so you can't play the "YOU DONT KNOW WHAT UR ON ABOUT" card, so just get on with what you've been given like good little boys and girls and stop crying about everything xoxo
So much petty arguing.
Why can't the Irish team just be happy they got their lancers? Lancers have been banned for the last 3 years of this tournament, now we give them a sweetie and they want the whole bag instead.
You've got your long pointy sticks, you could've said thank you to all the voting captains, but instead you choose to argue about it because you haven't got EXACTLY what you want.
P.S: Lancers are overpowered in NW (and any module for that matter), and yes I am experienced as a lancer so you can't play the "YOU DONT KNOW WHAT UR ON ABOUT" card, so just get on with what you've been given like good little boys and girls and stop crying about everything xoxo
Oh Dear! Pardon me Narsus, I should thank President Erik Lincoln for freeing us from our bonds, I guess it was greedy of us for wanting us to play the class as the developers intended!
I have experience as admin on linebattles and I'm admin on Cavalry Groupfighting and Cavalry Groupfighting EU.
I have experience as admin on linebattles and I'm admin on Cavalry Groupfighting and Cavalry Groupfighting EU.
you have experience only in contagiar SIDA
I have experience as admin on linebattles and I'm admin on Cavalry Groupfighting and Cavalry Groupfighting EU.
you have experience only in contagiar SIDA
Direct translation is funny but I got what yer trying to say xDSo much petty arguing.
Why can't the Irish team just be happy they got their lancers? Lancers have been banned for the last 3 years of this tournament, now we give them a sweetie and they want the whole bag instead.
You've got your long pointy sticks, you could've said thank you to all the voting captains, but instead you choose to argue about it because you haven't got EXACTLY what you want.
P.S: Lancers are overpowered in NW (and any module for that matter), and yes I am experienced as a lancer so you can't play the "YOU DONT KNOW WHAT UR ON ABOUT" card, so just get on with what you've been given like good little boys and girls and stop crying about everything xoxo
Oh Dear! Pardon me Narsus, I should thank President Erik Lincoln for freeing us from our bonds, I guess it was greedy of us for wanting us to play the class as the developers intended!
Diartmund just calm down and think of that old Irish proverb:SpoilerErik deontais, Erik tógann ar shiúl[close]
I wont argue about the lancer as a broken class or not, but if you are going to limit the gameplay of lances let's not allow hussars to take heavy swords, heavies to take ligth horses and every other class from taking lances from the ground because is "too broken".agreed with that cool guy, just let everyone play with their strengths and weaknesses, every class has their own broken things
Allowing lancers and then, nerf them with this new rule doesnt seems to be the rigth way in my opinion.
Oh Dear! Pardon me Narsus, I should thank President Erik Lincoln for freeing us from our bonds, I guess it was greedy of us for wanting us to play the class as the developers intended!That‘s exactly what I would have done.
Oh Dear! Pardon me Narsus, I should thank President Erik Lincoln for freeing us from our bonds, I guess it was greedy of us for wanting us to play the class as the developers intended!
I don't think it has anything to do with entitlement. Lancers are not banned across the cavalry groupfighting servers or in the tournament we hold on our server - those "obvious reasons" don't seem to apply there. Many more voted for lancers than not, so I also wouldn't agree that nobody but our team and a few others want us there.
Perhaps a compromise may be reached where we agree to couch only mounted or grounded opponents (for reasons of time I think the latter would be better, but apparently not everyone agrees on that), but I'm more of the opinion that we should either be allowed to play, or not. No talk of nerfing us.
Why another tradeoff?
I think Clausewitz has named most of the points why lancers are more than able to keep up with the other classes - even without chouchin‘.
I think one very important point has been forgotten by the most: You guys are not alone. Not in the fight, not against single guys, not against dismounted cavalrymen. There up to 11 teammates who will save you.
In a duel between a lancer as an hussar e.g, the hussar would be more likely to win. But in a groupfight? As Erik has said already, you guys are able to combine two weapons, a sword and a lance. Your team consists of not only lancers but there are some pretty skilled hussars in there as well. In an engagement that combination is mostly impossible to counter when it‘s done well.
And that‘s the lancers‘s strength - not in a duel but in the groupfight.
I wont argue about the lancer as a broken class or not, but if you are going to limit the gameplay of lances let's not allow hussars to take heavy swords, heavies to take ligth horses and every other class from taking lances from the ground because is "too broken".
Allowing lancers and then, nerf them with this new rule doesnt seems to be the rigth way in my opinion.
Yes Clausewitz "the best lancer EU" has shown how lancers are over-powered and more than capable to fight....suuuuuuuuuure budWhy another tradeoff?SpoilerI don't think it has anything to do with entitlement. Lancers are not banned across the cavalry groupfighting servers or in the tournament we hold on our server - those "obvious reasons" don't seem to apply there. Many more voted for lancers than not, so I also wouldn't agree that nobody but our team and a few others want us there.
Perhaps a compromise may be reached where we agree to couch only mounted or grounded opponents (for reasons of time I think the latter would be better, but apparently not everyone agrees on that), but I'm more of the opinion that we should either be allowed to play, or not. No talk of nerfing us.[close]
I think Clausewitz has named most of the points why lancers are more than able to keep up with the other classes - even without chouchin‘.
I think one very important point has been forgotten by the most: You guys are not alone. Not in the fight, not against single guys, not against dismounted cavalrymen. There up to 11 teammates who will save you.
In a duel between a lancer vs a hussar e.g, the hussar would be more likely to win. But in a groupfight? As Erik has said already, you guys are able to combine two weapons, a sword and a lance. Your team consists of not only lancers but there are some pretty skilled hussars in there as well. In an engagement that combination is mostly impossible to counter when it‘s done well.
And that‘s the lancers‘s strength - not in a duel but in the groupfight.
Does anyone want an argument? I'm in for a shit debate where we just insult each other for no reason at all over a game. Who's in?you suckk
Does anyone want an argument? I'm in for a shit debate where we just insult each other for no reason at all over a game. Who's in?
Does anyone want an argument? I'm in for a shit debate where we just insult each other for no reason at all over a game. Who's in?
Shut up idiot
Does anyone want an argument? I'm in for a shit debate where we just insult each other for no reason at all over a game. Who's in?you suckk
And you smell tooSpoilerDoes anyone want an argument? I'm in for a shit debate where we just insult each other for no reason at all over a game. Who's in?Shut up idiot[close]
You starvelling, you eel-skin, you dried neat’s-tongue, you bull’s-pizzle, you stock-fish–O for breath to utter what is like thee!-you tailor’s-yard, you sheath, you bow-case, you vile standing tuck!
OK SORRY
OK SORRY
OK SORRY
U are not welcome Rasti hehe
OK SORRY
U are not welcome Rasti hehe
neither is your SIDA
Yes Clausewitz "the best lancer EU" has shown how lancers are over-powered and more than capable to fight....suuuuuuuuuure budWhy another tradeoff?SpoilerI don't think it has anything to do with entitlement. Lancers are not banned across the cavalry groupfighting servers or in the tournament we hold on our server - those "obvious reasons" don't seem to apply there. Many more voted for lancers than not, so I also wouldn't agree that nobody but our team and a few others want us there.
Perhaps a compromise may be reached where we agree to couch only mounted or grounded opponents (for reasons of time I think the latter would be better, but apparently not everyone agrees on that), but I'm more of the opinion that we should either be allowed to play, or not. No talk of nerfing us.[close]
I think Clausewitz has named most of the points why lancers are more than able to keep up with the other classes - even without chouchin‘.
I think one very important point has been forgotten by the most: You guys are not alone. Not in the fight, not against single guys, not against dismounted cavalrymen. There up to 11 teammates who will save you.
In a duel between a lancer vs a hussar e.g, the hussar would be more likely to win. But in a groupfight? As Erik has said already, you guys are able to combine two weapons, a sword and a lance. Your team consists of not only lancers but there are some pretty skilled hussars in there as well. In an engagement that combination is mostly impossible to counter when it‘s done well.
And that‘s the lancers‘s strength - not in a duel but in the groupfight.
Come on guys be fair to lancers they can block but surely not with lance out, and to change lance to sabre it takes time, so its a pretty big disadvantage and thats why they should be allowed to use couched lance.Well, a non-retarded lancer wouldn‘t leave the group and just run into an enemy and as I said: there are more lancer to protect the stacked one.
Well a non retarded hussar can easily escape from lancer with couched lancewhat‘s the point with stackin‘ then?
Starting a petition to stop anyone whose ever tried to get someone kicked off of a cnc team just because they don't get along from talking about maturity *coughYes Clausewitz "the best lancer EU" has shown how lancers are over-powered and more than capable to fight....suuuuuuuuuure budWhy another tradeoff?SpoilerI don't think it has anything to do with entitlement. Lancers are not banned across the cavalry groupfighting servers or in the tournament we hold on our server - those "obvious reasons" don't seem to apply there. Many more voted for lancers than not, so I also wouldn't agree that nobody but our team and a few others want us there.
Perhaps a compromise may be reached where we agree to couch only mounted or grounded opponents (for reasons of time I think the latter would be better, but apparently not everyone agrees on that), but I'm more of the opinion that we should either be allowed to play, or not. No talk of nerfing us.[close]
I think Clausewitz has named most of the points why lancers are more than able to keep up with the other classes - even without chouchin‘.
I think one very important point has been forgotten by the most: You guys are not alone. Not in the fight, not against single guys, not against dismounted cavalrymen. There up to 11 teammates who will save you.
In a duel between a lancer vs a hussar e.g, the hussar would be more likely to win. But in a groupfight? As Erik has said already, you guys are able to combine two weapons, a sword and a lance. Your team consists of not only lancers but there are some pretty skilled hussars in there as well. In an engagement that combination is mostly impossible to counter when it‘s done well.
And that‘s the lancers‘s strength - not in a duel but in the groupfight.
Nothing of what I said about the pros and cons of lancers has anything to do with how good you have to be to play them. I never claimed to be a half decent lancer, and neither does it matter how good I am at them in order to understand my arguments. Funny that your mate yesterday was preaching about maturity, and yet this is the best you can come up with at this point to discredit what I said in the first place.
Starting a petition to stop anyone whose ever tried to get someone kicked off of a cnc team just because they don't get along from talking about maturity *cough
Starting a petition to stop anyone whose ever tried to get someone kicked off of a cnc team just because they don't get along from talking about maturity *cough
Starting a petition to stop anyone whose ever tried to get someone kicked off of a cnc team just because they don't get along from talking about maturity *cough
Once again... Tomas, what the hell is:QuoteStarting a petition to stop anyone whose ever tried to get someone kicked off of a cnc team just because they don't get along from talking about maturity *cough
Supoosed to even mean.
I'm gonna repeat myself with the, just because you say it doesn't make it true, and the points i've brought forward are actually agreed with by others who are on the same side of the debate as me, but you refuse to conceded even an inch since you diddn't come into the discussion with an open mind, abd would rather just call any valid points brought about by the other side utter rubbish, and i'm beginning to wonder how you even see the keyboard to type ao mich with your head so far up your own arse xxx
Once again... Tomas, what the hell is:QuoteStarting a petition to stop anyone whose ever tried to get someone kicked off of a cnc team just because they don't get along from talking about maturity *cough
Supoosed to even mean.
Bearing in mind clausewitz already implied he knows what I was on about why are you even bringing more attention to it stephan?
I mean i listed a number of valid arguments earlier, as have azhrei diarmuid traersson and zahari, the problem is that certain members of the community respond by calling them rubbish, don't make calls for a polite discussion when its your members that are sabotaging any chance of actually having one
Edit- you'll notice that in clausewitz's attempt to debunk my arguments, he said that some of the difficulties of the lancer class were because i was bad, and called my skill into question, which is where all the mudslinging started
I mean i listed a number of valid arguments earlier, as have azhrei diarmuid traersson and zahari, the problem is that certain members of the community respond by calling them rubbish, don't make calls for a polite discussion when its your members that are sabotaging any chance of actually having one
Edit- you'll notice that in clausewitz's attempt to debunk my arguments, he said that some of the difficulties of the lancer class were because i was bad, and called my skill into question, which is where all the mudslinging started
All these problems and discussions come to allow lancers or not, now I know because Erik did not feel like organizing again a CNC or CNWL :'(
So much petty arguing.
Why can't the Irish team just be happy they got their lancers? Lancers have been banned for the last 3 years of this tournament, now we give them a sweetie and they want the whole bag instead.
You've got your long pointy sticks, you could've said thank you to all the voting captains, but instead you choose to argue about it because you haven't got EXACTLY what you want.
P.S: Lancers are overpowered in NW (and any module for that matter), and yes I am experienced as a lancer so you can't play the "YOU DONT KNOW WHAT UR ON ABOUT" card, so just get on with what you've been given like good little boys and girls and stop crying about everything xoxo
And Harford please
So much petty arguing.
Why can't the Irish team just be happy they got their lancers? Lancers have been banned for the last 3 years of this tournament, now we give them a sweetie and they want the whole bag instead.
You've got your long pointy sticks, you could've said thank you to all the voting captains, but instead you choose to argue about it because you haven't got EXACTLY what you want.
P.S: Lancers are overpowered in NW (and any module for that matter), and yes I am experienced as a lancer so you can't play the "YOU DONT KNOW WHAT UR ON ABOUT" card, so just get on with what you've been given like good little boys and girls and stop crying about everything xoxo
Funny bloke thinks that lancers are op xD, what i learned from this game is that the ~OP~ things are just things some players don`t know how to fight against it. Therefor it is more personal than proven, if lancers are so op why can i still jumpshot a lancer? he has the range but i still win ;).
P.S: Lancers are overpowered in NW (and any module for that matter), and yes I am experienced as a lancer so you can't play the "YOU DONT KNOW WHAT UR ON ABOUT" card, so just get on with what you've been given like good little boys and girls and stop crying about everything xoxo
And Harford please
United Kingdom:
Captain: (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) Skittles
Vice-Captain: (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) Cage
1. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) Skittles
2. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) Cage
3. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) King_Stannis
4. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) Tomas
5. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) Wib
6. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) Spikey
7. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) Rev_Jones
8. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) Eejit
9. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) Thorny
10. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) USE4life
11. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) Narsus
12. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) Hawk
13. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) Herishey
14. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) Karzark
15. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) KingKO
16. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) MrSharkie
17. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) Quack
18. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) Shadey
19. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) Quinn
20. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1422141061-royaumeuni2.jpg) Odiin
Tag: UK_Name
Unit: Hussars
Further changes may be made
Seeing as I haven't been in a reg for a pretty long time now.. who am I shit talking?
If you actually read any of my posts you'd realise that I agree with you??? Like I literally said "just get on with it and stop crying about everything", so once again, your point doesn't even make sense. Also, I meant that I don't want to pay postage and packaging for the medal, therefore wanted to send you money electronically via your bank details.. Sarcasm sorta gets ruined when the receiver doesn't receive as intended. Anyways, I'm not gonna argue and debate over a forum, if you have some kind of issue with me then PM, Johanske
;)
9. Picking enemy weapons and horses is allowed, like in a standard 1v1 regimental cavalry fight. Lances however can not be picked up.
Group A : (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616521-banniereitalie2.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616599-vs.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616467-banniereespagne2.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616481-banniereslaves2.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616599-vs.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616470-bannierefrance2.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616476-bannierepologne2.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616599-vs.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616472-banniereirlande2.png) | (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.akamai.steamusercontent.com%2Fugc%2F434947378300553600%2F651F79A6D82797A57EDA15A14EC68AC848E2AFF2%2F&hash=4bb6f2dfa72b9b5ed6524051a314f18c89e22683) | Group B : (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616485-banniereturquie2.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616599-vs.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616483-banniereuk2.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616479-bannierescan2.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616599-vs.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616465-bannierebosches2.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616462-bannierebenelux2.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616599-vs.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616460-banniereamerique2.png) |
Match: BeNeLux vs North America
Date & Hour: 19.11.17 @ 7.45 CEST (For the Americans: 11.19.17 @ 1.45 EST)
Maximum number of players (8, 10 or 12): 10 Players.
Can't tell whether the British quote is the French actually making fun of how bad they are or how good lmfao.
Hello everyone,In the future though if any Lux players want to play that will then mean they have no team they can play within (as they'll never have enough for their own team) and at least in line regiments I know a few Lux players, in NWWC back in GB/UK we almost never had any Irish or Welsh players in several years but they should still have a nation to play in should someone come about.
It has come to our attention that the Benelux has no Luxembourgians. Which ofcourse needs to have some repercussions.
Their name is in our "Union" called the "BeNeLux" Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg. We find that this is unfair for our good Belgian and Dutch kin fighting on the battlefield, giving their lives for the Benelux, when there are no Luxembourgians doing the same to protect their part of that very union!
Therefor we request that you consider our following question.
We would like to rename ourselves from the Benelux to the Belgium-Netherlands Coalition Short BNC.
Belgium-Netherlands Coalition
Tag: BNC_Name
If you want the honor, fight for the honor!
With kind regards,
StephanGH
Captain of the Belgium-Netherlands Coalition
Add UKR Wulfstun to rosterWulfstan* ^^
Hello everyone,In the future though if any Lux players want to play that will then mean they have no team they can play within (as they'll never have enough for their own team) and at least in line regiments I know a few Lux players, in NWWC back in GB/UK we almost never had any Irish or Welsh players in several years but they should still have a nation to play in should someone come about.
It has come to our attention that the Benelux has no Luxembourgians. Which ofcourse needs to have some repercussions.
Their name is in our "Union" called the "BeNeLux" Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg. We find that this is unfair for our good Belgian and Dutch kin fighting on the battlefield, giving their lives for the Benelux, when there are no Luxembourgians doing the same to protect their part of that very union!
Therefor we request that you consider our following question.
We would like to rename ourselves from the Benelux to the Belgium-Netherlands Coalition Short BNC.
Belgium-Netherlands Coalition
Tag: BNC_Name
If you want the honor, fight for the honor!
With kind regards,
StephanGH
Captain of the Belgium-Netherlands Coalition
Can't tell whether the British quote is the French actually making fun of how bad they are or how good lmfao.
The point is that they are at least consoled by the fact that they were beaten by the British cavalry (As opposed to some other cavalry, which would be embarrassing)
Captain: (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) Traeeseron
Vice-Captain: (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) Victor
1. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) Traeeseron
2. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) Victor
3. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) Aponnk
4. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) Asediado
5. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) Charlini
6. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) DarkLigth
7. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) Dume
8. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) Filipo
9. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) Hispalense
10. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) Luisma
11. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) Moroman
12. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) Nerva
13. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) Pedro
14. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) Piotes
15. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) Ramirez
16. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) SirAlecks
17. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) Sparta
18. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) Termito
19. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) Tuvius
20. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712595-espagne2.jpg) Wasike
Tag: ESP_Name
Unit: Lancers
Felix lancers are not for me :P+REP
Good luck to all nations involved this year. Let it be a fun and competitive one!
Love from Skittles xoxoxoxox
Hello everyone,In the future though if any Lux players want to play that will then mean they have no team they can play within (as they'll never have enough for their own team) and at least in line regiments I know a few Lux players, in NWWC back in GB/UK we almost never had any Irish or Welsh players in several years but they should still have a nation to play in should someone come about.
It has come to our attention that the Benelux has no Luxembourgians. Which ofcourse needs to have some repercussions.
Their name is in our "Union" called the "BeNeLux" Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg. We find that this is unfair for our good Belgian and Dutch kin fighting on the battlefield, giving their lives for the Benelux, when there are no Luxembourgians doing the same to protect their part of that very union!
Therefor we request that you consider our following question.
We would like to rename ourselves from the Benelux to the Belgium-Netherlands Coalition Short BNC.
Belgium-Netherlands Coalition
Tag: BNC_Name
If you want the honor, fight for the honor!
With kind regards,
StephanGH
Captain of the Belgium-Netherlands Coalition
ahu timevery nice avatar harfördTR
ahu timevery nice avatar harfördTR
Therefor we request that you consider our following question.
We would like to rename ourselves from the Benelux to the Belgium-Netherlands Coalition Short BNC.
Belgium-Netherlands Coalition
Tag: BNC_Name
If you want the honor, fight for the honor!
With kind regards,
StephanGH
Captain of the Belgium-Netherlands Coalition
I was watching this post time ago , and reading all the discussion etc . . .
I want to give my opinion about this "tournament/competition" , i am playing since 2013 more less mount and blade and i played so much competitions/tournaments , with inf , cav etc . . . this is the first year that i have "option/oportunity" to play a NWCNC and i think that play with lancers is good like play with hussars , curassiers etc . . . and allow lancers i think that is a good thing . I know that it will be a hard thing and difficult match if u play against them but if we dont have that little bit of difficult it could be easy and bored play always with the same units
For other part i think that Erik is doing a great job hosting this last "Competition" and we need to enjoy that cause those years will be the lasts of the mount and blade , cause i hope that the next year we will be playing Bannerlord " I HOPE THAT" so why not , we need to have a funny competition and funny time playing with our teamates and etc . . .
Sorry if my english is not perfect !!
Therefor we request that you consider our following question.
We would like to rename ourselves from the Benelux to the Belgium-Netherlands Coalition Short BNC.
Belgium-Netherlands Coalition
Tag: BNC_Name
If you want the honor, fight for the honor!
With kind regards,
StephanGH
Captain of the Belgium-Netherlands Coalition
You should do this when it comes to football aswell so the Dutch get to play some World Cups again.
por eso dije que tengo la "oportunidad de intentarlo" . . .I was watching this post time ago , and reading all the discussion etc . . .
I want to give my opinion about this "tournament/competition" , i am playing since 2013 more less mount and blade and i played so much competitions/tournaments , with inf , cav etc . . . this is the first year that i have "option/oportunity" to play a NWCNC and i think that play with lancers is good like play with hussars , curassiers etc . . . and allow lancers i think that is a good thing . I know that it will be a hard thing and difficult match if u play against them but if we dont have that little bit of difficult it could be easy and bored play always with the same units
For other part i think that Erik is doing a great job hosting this last "Competition" and we need to enjoy that cause those years will be the lasts of the mount and blade , cause i hope that the next year we will be playing Bannerlord " I HOPE THAT" so why not , we need to have a funny competition and funny time playing with our teamates and etc . . .
Sorry if my english is not perfect !!
lol no estas en el equipo xd
I was watching this post time ago , and reading all the discussion etc . . .Que C1 mas pro, no?
I want to give my opinion about this "tournament/competition" , i am playing since 2013 more less mount and blade and i played so much competitions/tournaments , with inf , cav etc . . . this is the first year that i have "option/oportunity" to play a NWCNC and i think that play with lancers is good like play with hussars , curassiers etc . . . and allow lancers i think that is a good thing . I know that it will be a hard thing and difficult match if u play against them but if we dont have that little bit of difficult it could be easy and bored play always with the same units
For other part i think that Erik is doing a great job hosting this last "Competition" and we need to enjoy that cause those years will be the lasts of the mount and blade , cause i hope that the next year we will be playing Bannerlord " I HOPE THAT" so why not , we need to have a funny competition and funny time playing with our teamates and etc . . .
Sorry if my english is not perfect !!
va va sigue por fa :DI was watching this post time ago , and reading all the discussion etc . . .Que C1 mas pro, no?
I want to give my opinion about this "tournament/competition" , i am playing since 2013 more less mount and blade and i played so much competitions/tournaments , with inf , cav etc . . . this is the first year that i have "option/oportunity" to play a NWCNC and i think that play with lancers is good like play with hussars , curassiers etc . . . and allow lancers i think that is a good thing . I know that it will be a hard thing and difficult match if u play against them but if we dont have that little bit of difficult it could be easy and bored play always with the same units
For other part i think that Erik is doing a great job hosting this last "Competition" and we need to enjoy that cause those years will be the lasts of the mount and blade , cause i hope that the next year we will be playing Bannerlord " I HOPE THAT" so why not , we need to have a funny competition and funny time playing with our teamates and etc . . .
Sorry if my english is not perfect !!
since 2013 more less . . . !!Ahoj ur only post is for me i am so happy ty :D
Match: Germanic Countries vs Scandinavia
Date & Hour: Thursday, 16.11.2017 - 20:00 CET
Maximum number of players (8, 10 or 12): 10
citizency
Application for Referee:
Your Name: Lorucas
Your Steam Name (please give a link): Me (https://steamcommunity.com/id/Lorucas/)
Why you should be Referee: Idk Erik if you need more referees for the CNC, so I decided to apply. It depends on the schedule of the matches but I think it could be to help. I have experience as admin on linebattles and I'm admin on Cavalry Groupfighting and Cavalry Groupfighting EU.
Match: Germanic Countries vs Scandinavia
Date & Hour: Thursday, 16.11.2017 - 20:00 CET
Maximum number of players (8, 10 or 12): 10
Thanks for posting! Serv & Ref incoming.
Then you should better coordinate with Norwegian. I talked to him and he agreed on them.Match: Germanic Countries vs Scandinavia
Date & Hour: Thursday, 16.11.2017 - 20:00 CET
Maximum number of players (8, 10 or 12): 10
Thanks for posting! Serv & Ref incoming.
We did not agree to these details.
Match: Germanic Countries vs ScandinaviaChange told me by Norwegian.
Date & Hour: Thursday, 16.11.2017 - 20:00 CET
Maximum number of players (8, 10 or 12): 8
Then you should better coordinate with Norwegian. I talked to him and he agreed on them.Match: Germanic Countries vs Scandinavia
Date & Hour: Thursday, 16.11.2017 - 20:00 CET
Maximum number of players (8, 10 or 12): 10
Thanks for posting! Serv & Ref incoming.
We did not agree to these details.
I sent him the stuff I posted on steam and he replied with „Yeah“ and „can we change to 8?“. That‘s pretty clear isn‘t it? Especially 'cause I told him „I will post on FSE then“ .Then you should better coordinate with Norwegian. I talked to him and he agreed on them.Match: Germanic Countries vs Scandinavia
Date & Hour: Thursday, 16.11.2017 - 20:00 CET
Maximum number of players (8, 10 or 12): 10
Thanks for posting! Serv & Ref incoming.
We did not agree to these details.
I communicate perfectly fine with my deputy. He did not agree to them, you just assumed it. Could prove it with logs.
Just not very appreciative of his assumptions. I'd recommend Erik removing it all, nonetheless.
For anyone wondering, I made 100% sure Harford held Turkish citizenship, and he does thanks to his mother. He is therefore allowed to play for Turkey.EXPLAIN THIS HOMOSEXFORD
QuoteJust not very appreciative of his assumptions. I'd recommend Erik removing it all, nonetheless.
Norwegian said yeh. Dok said posting on fse. Clearly norwegian never said dont or something. Its a simple misunderstanding. Nothing to get mad over etc. Just talk it out on steam and get a matchdate that works for both. Jesus christ
Just not very appreciative of his assumptions. I'd recommend Erik removing it all, nonetheless.
For anyone wondering, I made 100% sure Harford held Turkish citizenship, and he does thanks to his mother. He is therefore allowed to play for Turkey.EXPLAIN THIS HOMOSEXFORD
So, the whole "conversation" above was pointless. Thank you for that, Rhen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5530I_pYjbo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwBw_zoue7o
Scandinavia:
Captain: Rhen
Vice-Captain: Norwegian
1. Rhen [NOR]
2. Norwegian [NOR]
3. Andros [NOR]
4. Morten [DEN]
5. Noot [FIN]
6. FeelsLike [DEN]
7. Janne [FIN]
8. Zidius [NOR]
9. Kitteh [DEN]
10. Uganda [DEN]
11. Danish [DEN]
12. Andre [SWE]
Tag: SCA_Name
Unit: Hussars
Forgot to post the draft.
Match: UK v Turkey
Date & Hour: Thursday 16th November at 7pm GMT
Maximum number of players (8, 10 or 12): 12
Match: Germanic Countries vs Scandinavia
Date & Hour: Thursday, 16.11.2017 - 20:00 CET
Maximum number of players (8, 10 or 12): 8
Match: BeNeLux vs North America
Date & Hour: 19.11.17 @ 7.45 CEST (For the Americans: 11.19.17 @ 1.45 EST)
Maximum number of players (8, 10 or 12): 10 Players.
Gg Turkey, I'll have a video up in a few days.
Rasti banned me from the server :'(you deserved it
mad cus bad1!11!1!!Gg Turkey, I'll have a video up in a few days.
dave's channel is way more cool
unsubscribed
gg uk tho!
Rasti banned me from the server :'(you deserved it
Greetings ladies and gentlemen,
It was more difficult than ever to gather a team for Italy. For a community that was never large or very active, especially in Cavalry, with the game and the community as a whole in decline,
it's been a real challenge to get a team together this year.
Yet, we have done again our duty and are glad to present to you the Italian Team for the 2017 CNC!
I thank my Vice Captain Andrea especially for his invaluable help, time and dedication which made this team possible. We hope to be able to get enough players for our matches now :DSpoilerItaly:
Captain: Piccolomini
Vice-Captain: Andrea
1)Piccolomini (Captain)
2)Andrea (Vice-Captain)
3)Chri
4)Counter
5)Borry
6)ruenzi
7)Ale
8)Song
9)Jackintheboz
10)Doge
11)Grislimass
12)Gozzillas
13)Simone
14)Davide
15)shark
16)Marco 47
17)YoloPanda
Tag: ITA_Name
Unit: Hussars[close]
Bear in mind that our team's quality, which was medium in 2015, low in 2016, is even lower this year with about half our members being infantry players, the other only amateurish cav players.
That said, even though we are well aware that our chances against the big teams are zero, we are happy to participate in this event, we hope everyone will have fun and that at least some matches will be close, hard-fought and worthy of some of our glorious past engagements! :)
Greetings ladies and gentlemen,
It was more difficult than ever to gather a team for Italy. For a community that was never large or very active, especially in Cavalry, with the game and the community as a whole in decline,
it's been a real challenge to get a team together this year.
Yet, we have done again our duty and are glad to present to you the Italian Team for the 2017 CNC!
I thank my Vice Captain Andrea especially for his invaluable help, time and dedication which made this team possible. We hope to be able to get enough players for our matches now :DSpoilerItaly:
Captain: Piccolomini
Vice-Captain: Andrea
1)Piccolomini (Captain)
2)Andrea (Vice-Captain)
3)Chri
4)Counter
5)Borry
6)ruenzi
7)Ale
8)Song
9)Jackintheboz
10)Doge
11)Grislimass
12)Gozzillas
13)Simone
14)Davide
15)shark
16)Marco 47
17)YoloPanda
Tag: ITA_Name
Unit: Hussars[close]
Bear in mind that our team's quality, which was medium in 2015, low in 2016, is even lower this year with about half our members being infantry players, the other only amateurish cav players.
That said, even though we are well aware that our chances against the big teams are zero, we are happy to participate in this event, we hope everyone will have fun and that at least some matches will be close, hard-fought and worthy of some of our glorious past engagements! :)
Greetings ladies and gentlemen,
It was more difficult than ever to gather a team for Italy. For a community that was never large or very active, especially in Cavalry, with the game and the community as a whole in decline,
it's been a real challenge to get a team together this year.
Yet, we have done again our duty and are glad to present to you the Italian Team for the 2017 CNC!
I thank my Vice Captain Andrea especially for his invaluable help, time and dedication which made this team possible. We hope to be able to get enough players for our matches now :DSpoilerItaly:
Captain: Piccolomini
Vice-Captain: Andrea
1)Piccolomini (Captain)
2)Andrea (Vice-Captain)
3)Chri
4)Counter
5)Borry
6)ruenzi
7)Ale
8)Song
9)Jackintheboz
10)Doge
11)Grislimass
12)Gozzillas
13)Simone
14)Davide
15)shark
16)Marco 47
17)YoloPanda
Tag: ITA_Name
Unit: Hussars[close]
Bear in mind that our team's quality, which was medium in 2015, low in 2016, is even lower this year with about half our members being infantry players, the other only amateurish cav players.
That said, even though we are well aware that our chances against the big teams are zero, we are happy to participate in this event, we hope everyone will have fun and that at least some matches will be close, hard-fought and worthy of some of our glorious past engagements! :)
Match: Italy vs Spain
Date & Hour: Saturday 18th, 21 GMT / 22 CET
Number of players (8, 10 or 12): 8
1. Blucher
2. SillyWilly
3. Public
4. Inoua
5. Emperor
6. Vick
7. Bardic
8. Brandon
9. Lee
10. Kiri
11. Hotjoe
12. Crackjack
13. Curtis Shuttler
14. Clean
15. Akula
16. Lurvy
17. Yoshie
18. Hess
19. Shalo
20. ZachAttack
21. BlackPrince
Hopefully, the final roster change.
GG Spain! Congratulations. It was a nice match, the better team won.
Btw me and Andrea would like to apologise for that guy from us who said something about the lancers. We do not agree at all with what he said. We are happy that there are lancers nations and hope the tournament will be more interesting this way!
For sure many of us don't know how to play properly versus lancers, it will be interesting to see if other nations have learnt something about how to face them. ;)
very nice sig termito
Who does the graphics etc for the thread?Erik himself, I think.
Who does the graphics etc for the thread?Erik himself, I think.
Match: Poland vs Ireland
Date & Hour: Sunday 19th, 19 GMT / 20 CET
Number of players (8, 10 or 12): 8
GG Poland !Sorry, its our cnc tradition
(That gang bang at the end though was not appreciated)
...BeNeLux |8-0| North America
GG to everyone who played tonight, the BNL certainly showed that they are a strong contender for this Competition. Commiserations to team USA but well fought!
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Match Week n°2
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Captains are asked to announce their matches' dates as following:SpoilerMatch:
Date & Hour:
Minimum number of players (8, 10 or 12):[close]
They will be given a server and referee once this is done.
...BeNeLux |8-0| North America
GG to everyone who played tonight, the BNL certainly showed that they are a strong contender for this Competition. Commiserations to team USA but well fought!
wow you guys beat team NA...
impressive..
;)
You'd be suprised what we beat, it rhymes with beat....BeNeLux |8-0| North America
GG to everyone who played tonight, the BNL certainly showed that they are a strong contender for this Competition. Commiserations to team USA but well fought!
wow you guys beat team NA...
impressive..
;)
Same thing I was wondering, thought it was my eyesight getting even worse but if you open it in another tab, they don't hab transparency :(.Why are some of these images pngs and some are just the forum background color but it's off?Spoiler(https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/07/1455978509-cooltext1852385575.png)
(https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/07/1455978511-cooltext1852425581.png)
Match Week n°2
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Captains are asked to announce their matches' dates as following:SpoilerMatch:
Date & Hour:
Minimum number of players (8, 10 or 12):[close]
They will be given a server and referee once this is done.[close]
Same thing I was wondering, thought it was my eyesight getting even worse but if you open it in another tab, they don't hab transparency :(.Why are some of these images pngs and some are just the forum background color but it's off?Spoiler(https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/07/1455978509-cooltext1852385575.png)
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Match Week n°2
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Captains are asked to announce their matches' dates as following:SpoilerMatch:
Date & Hour:
Minimum number of players (8, 10 or 12):[close]
They will be given a server and referee once this is done.[close]
Match: Turkey vs. Germanic Countries
Date & Hour: 21st of November, 2017, Tuesday 7 pm (19.00) GMT
Minimum number of players (8, 10 or 12): 8
Good luck and have fun!
u can literally use paint to make them transparent thoughSame thing I was wondering, thought it was my eyesight getting even worse but if you open it in another tab, they don't hab transparency :(.Why are some of these images pngs and some are just the forum background color but it's off?Spoiler(https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/07/1455978509-cooltext1852385575.png)
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Match Week n°2
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Captains are asked to announce their matches' dates as following:SpoilerMatch:
Date & Hour:
Minimum number of players (8, 10 or 12):[close]
They will be given a server and referee once this is done.[close]
I ran out of time and means (the software I used to make the pictures stopped being free and I don't feel like putting money into it) to make it properly transparent, so I came with a cheap solution to make it somewhat work on FSE. It's only three team names anyway, the three new teams that joined the tournament this year.
Sorry I'm a bit late but UK v TUR vid;Videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnnv5VMeMnc[close]
Yeah I feel the same every event haha.Sorry I'm a bit late but UK v TUR vid;Videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnnv5VMeMnc[close]
Nothing worse than hearing your own voice, glad I didn't talk through it due to ping issues. Nice video though!
GG Turkey.Videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCX-QaNzmTI&feature=youtu.be[close]
I'm going to go back to lurking
Give me ur Vodka Maximus 8)+1
Oh hello
Match: Slavic Country Team vs Poland
Date & Hour: 26.11.17 (20 CET or 19 00 GMT)
Minimum number of players (8, 10 or 12): 10 (will be fine but i forget to ask Zahari about it)
Match: Slavic Country Team vs Poland
Date & Hour: 26.11.17 (20 CET or 19 00 GMT)
Minimum number of players (8, 10 or 12): 10 (will be fine but i forget to ask Zahari about it)
This match will take place on CavNationsCup_1, and will be refereed by myself. Thank you!
I hope I will be able to write a preview of this match.SpoilerSorry about the double post :-X[close]
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(https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712142-bannierefrance.png) TEAM PRESENTATION France has always been one of the main challengers for the champion title of the Cavalry Nations Cup. The team has reached the final on all three of the previous editions, winning it once in 2015 against the Germanic Countries. But if this can been seen as a sign of success and consistency, the French seem to struggle when it comes to moments as crucial as a final can be. One win, right, but two defeats, against Poland in 2014, and against the United Kingdom in 2016. France is a team that has the potential of being amongst the very best, but tends to be in trouble when it comes to the big game. And be assured, tonight's match against Spain is a big match, and will decide a lot of what happens next in group A. So France will have to learn from its past mistakes, and step up its game in order to try and reach a victory against the Spaniards. In 4 Cavalry Nations Cup, France has been under the command of three Captains: Lubukill, Tardet & Erik. It is not an example of rare stability, and tensions in the French community always made it difficult for all Captains to gather everyone in the same team. Even though it always managed to get good results, the French team has continuously changed throughout the years. This year, the French team is composed of a variety of 7e, 9e and 4e Hussards members forming its core, and has a few members from different (mostly international) cavalry regiments. All of these players have been playing Napoleonic Wars for many years, and can be considered as veterans of the game. However the team itself did not have that much playtime together, and is still rather young. Finding the right chemistry will be a key to this match for France, against a very experienced Spanish side. The French team plays with the Hussar class, as it has done on all previous editions. It is undoubtedly the class that the French players know best, so there was not a lot of discussions as to which class they would pick. An extra threat comes from Spain playing as lancers, which is a class France has not yet encountered in a CNC match. A great element of tension around is match is wether the French will be able to deal with the lancers' advantages and attack them on their weaknesses. | (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.akamai.steamusercontent.com%2Fugc%2F434947378300553600%2F651F79A6D82797A57EDA15A14EC68AC848E2AFF2%2F&hash=4bb6f2dfa72b9b5ed6524051a314f18c89e22683) | (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712144-banniereespagne.png) TEAM PRESENTATION Unlike France, one of Spain's main strength is their consistency in keeping the same (extremely powerful) core of players, and organization. Spain is led by Traeeseron. There is no need to introduce him, as he simply has been the Captain of the team 4 years in a row, from 2014 to 2017. And it is more than fair to say that the Spaniard is blessed with a core of vastly experienced players, on who he always relied to create his Spanish team. Obviously, some changes have happened within the years, but Spain might very well been the team that has seen the same players fight for it on the most occasions. This base of players is composed of veterans of the game, who have been playing it for several years. They have all played Napoleonic Wars in the past, but their recent focus has been put on Native, and other modules such as Mercenaries, in which many of them are considered amongst the very best of all cavalry players. Quite scary, given the fact that competition on Native is organized in a very serious way, with multiples events including large prizes and such things. Any team that has a Spaniard horseman in it, may it be on NW, Native or any other module, can feel blessed by it. Helping Traeeseron is Victor, a NW player who has been a part of a Spanish dragoons regiment, before joining the 4e Hussards in which he became a very important and valued member. He knows cavalry competition on NW, and has taken part in nearly all he could participate in for the past few years. He also is a force that Spain can count on to reach victory. In the three previous editions of the Cavalry Nations Cup, Spain has always been playing as Cuirassiers, as it the class that most of the players liked and knew the most. This year, a radical change happened, since Spain chose to go with the Lancer class. Given the fact that several of their players are from Native, it is fair to say fighting with a lance should not be a problem to them. If Spain manages to use their class to its full capacity, they can be a real and very serious threat to any team facing them. And France is not kept out of it. |
tardet style
In 4 Cavalry Nations Cup, France has been under the command of three Captains: Lubukill, Tardet & Erik
Great match France and a close one.Spain |8-7| FranceIt was, as one of the spectators have remarked, possibly the closest match of this edition so far and might remain so. It started most promising for France, who smoothly won two first rounds, but the Spain managed to stand up to the pressure and finally won 8-7, the final round being played at 7-7 - tense 'till the very end. I hope all the other teams will have equally intense matches in this CNC.
Any videos?
That was actually the most intense match i ever witnessed in CNC history. As Erik said, the biggest weakness of the french are their nerves and the last round was pure thrills even as spectators even more so after 90 minutes. Nontheless the French stood their ground against an unusual type of enemy. A really fat GG for both teams who showed the best they could.Totally agree.
| (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/11/1458490399-interview2.png) | Q. Since some of we Europeans do not know much about the North American community, the first questions will be about it. Can you introduce yourself a little bit? Blucher: I have been playing Napoleonic Wars for two years now. I have spent quite some time in the European community, since I have been a part of The Royal Hussars (TRH), the Nr.9 (a German cavalry regiment), and the 9e Hussards (an international but European one). I am in command of a regiment in the North American community, it is called the Nr.5. My main achievement with it was a third place in the North American Cavalry League. Q. Is cavalry as big a thing as it is here in Europe? Is there a lot of regiments, and what does competition look like there? Blucher: There are about 8 cavalry units in total in North America. Four of them are actual cavalry regiments, and two of them have been around forever: the PLG and the 1LH. Most of the rest is cavalry detachments, that are part of infantry regiments. I personally think it kinda sucks. Regarding competition, it is pretty tough and close between the very best regiments, but the rest has a much lower lever, there is a clear gap. Still, I would say a good European cavalry regiment would have a fair and close match with a regiment like the 1LH if there were to fight with an equal ping. We have a Cavalry League in North America. We had three seasons so far, which went pretty well for the most of it. Q. This is your very first time leading a team in the Cavalry Nations Cup. How does it feel to be the Captain of a team? How do you and your Vice-Captain work together? Blucher: I would say I like it, and I don't like it in the same way. There is a lot of pressure, I feel like I have to give my best in every match. We have a lot of really good players in the team, so I try to be on their level because I don't want them to be wasting their time with a Captain who's not up to expectations. But obviously overall it is a great experience, I get to spend time and play with some of the best North American cavalry players. About my Vice-Captain (SillyWilly), he's in the PLG. PLG and the Nr.5 are kind of rivals, there was a little bit of drama during the NA CNWL. But we both play together in TRH, so we have always been in good terms. He's a guy I really like working with, I feel that we're doing a good job together. Q. The NA team is obviously going to be disadvantaged in an european competition, due to high pings. Do you and your team have an objective you'd want to reach, despite this disadvantage? Blucher: Well I'd say our aim was to get to the semi-finals, but the ping is obviously going to make it difficult for us. We are taking the competition very seriously, and we will try our best at every match. We won against Turkey in a friendly match before the CNC started, so I am confident that, if we play the right way, we can put the european teams in trouble. Q. Is there a match in your group that you are most eager to play? And why? Blucher: Probably the match against the United Kingdom. I know their Vice-Captain (Cage), and I have played with many of their members in the EU communities I have been in. We'll definitely try our best against the Brits. Q. And a match in any group that you are most eager to spectate? Blucher: Probably Benelux vs United Kingdom. I think it'll be one of the closest matches, very tense as well. The result will impact us a lot as well, since Benelux has won against us, if the United Kingdom won this match we'd be somewhat back in the semi-final race. Q. Out of four (including this one) CNCs hosted since 2014, North America has only taken part in two, in 2014 under Peppers, and in 2017 under you. Do you feel proud of being able to get this team back into the tournament? Did you get supported by the big players of the North American community? Blucher: Peppers said that there was a lot of snobbery from some of the European teams, and to be honest I feel the same thing. We're not always considered as we should be, but this is fine by us as we want to show that there are more than capable cavalry players in North America. Some of the biggest NA players did not give us their support, but it was no big deal for me as I prefered to choose players with the lowest pings on EU servers. We're very glad to be back into the competition, even if it's much harder for us due to high pings and diffucult match hours. 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why wouldnt u interview a former winner like meindeed.
im a good guy and cool
cooler than tardet
Blucher: There are about 8 cavalry units in total in North America. Four of them are actual cavalry regiments
Four of them are actual cavalry regiments
actual cavalry
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Hello,
Here can see Qualifying match between Italy vs Spain.Spoilerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7HPC6aJae8&t=255s[close]
Enjoy ;D
PD: Tomorrow or wednesday upload the next France vs Spain.
Unfortunately, I will have to step down as the leader of the NA CNC team. I am proud of what I created and what my team has accomplished. A personal problem has arisen for me and it has nothing to do with anyone in the community. Silly Willy, my vice captain, will take over as captain.
Thank you for reading my message. I wish luck to all of you, especially my team.
Seeya,
Blucher
I will attend a NA match one day and I will carry >:(Looking forward to our match then :)
Blucher: Peppers said that there was a lot of snobbery from some of the European teams, and to be honest I feel the same thing.EU snobs confirmed
| (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/11/1458490399-interview2.png) | Q. First of all, as an experienced player of the community, and organiser of every CNC, how do you feel this year’s cup has been so far in terms of activity, matches and drama, in comparison to the years before this? Erik: In terms of activity, I would say this year’s Cup has been very good. As we all know, the community is slowly becoming less active and the number of people joining regiments and communities is dwindling, but, many veteran and active players showed interest and requested that this tournament run one last time in 2017, and so, my hesitation faded, and I began preparation. Because of this willingness of players, everyone is already very motivated to do their best in every match, and I honestly think that is why the matches have been so good so far. On FSE the thread had already exceeded 40 pages in the first 3 weeks of the tournament, and yet I think last year’s thread stopped just below 40. I think this proves how much the community wanted this tournament and their willingness to participate. About drama, there is drama every year. Maybe there is a little more drama this year, it seems that way, but shit happened, and I dealt with it as efficiently as I thought to do so. I’ve always tried my best to keep these events drama-free, I very much like being in control of what happens and therefore unnecessary drama is simply unwanted to me, and the rest of the team of helpers. As you all know, this year I tried to make some changes to the tournament such as the introduction of Lancers. This obviously caused an uproar with some people, but you can never make everyone happy, so I just aim to make the majority happy. No one is forced to play for their nation, and therefore if they feel so strongly about those changes then they are free to leave as they please. But overall, we’ve seen some really good matches this year, so I honestly think the Cup can be in anyone’s hands. Q. France’s team this year is obviously home to some of the best players in this year’s cup, as Cpt, how do you balance training as a team and letting your players do their own thing, seeing as so many of them are already so experienced? Erik: I’m pretty blessed with some of the best cavalry players this game has to offer in the French team, and I appreciate that. It’s a big pleasure to lead them, no one is here to troll and their mentality was good from the beginning, so the mood of the team is very good. In all honesty, we didn’t do much preparation before the CNC, we did a couple of practice matches against Germany and the United Kingdom, which are 2 of the big contender for this competition, and managed to win both matches, but it was very close. Overall, the team had a rather short but difficult preparation. I actually think this was the right thing to do as I didn’t want the team to be overconfident by beating every team there was before we even started for real, or losing lots of matches and dropping the morale before we started. I believe this short but sweet preparation helped to hone some rusty skills for some of the members but allow them to adopt the right mentality. The team is a mix of 9e, 4e and 7e with a few more guys from other diverse regiments. Getting everyone to know each other and start playing as a team is difficult, but we are getting there, and because of this I am starting to see some good team spirit. On the field, I do speak a lot and give lots of advice to the team, I know they are all seasoned veterans, but I think keeping that communication up is the key to success. They all have their own ways of doing things, their own ways of getting out of certain situations, and as long as it works, they are allowed to do it. It is only when they ignore commands and then get killed because of this that I get bossy. The rule of thumb is: if it works, then keep doing it. I’m very much looking forward to our future matches to see how well we can all work together, I believe we can improve much more. Q. In the FRA v ESP match, ESP had changed their class from the usual Cuirassiers to Lancers. How did you and your team think to oppose this change, and how was this strategy implemented into your real match? Erik: In the end we only had two trainings against lancers before our match with Spain. I asked friendly communities to play as lancer against us, but I do not think this was all that efficient. The people we asked to help us train were not originally lancers, and therefore they were not playing against us with the ferocity that Spain brought to the table. The people we trained against were mainly Hussars and Infantry, so this was to be expected. In the real match, what we tried to do was exploit their weaknesses and avoid their strengths. We had some rounds where we only lose a few men, and the rounds we won were generally by a large margin, but as soon as we gave them the chance to make use of their strengths, they punished us for it. Because of this, it was a very close match. Q. The first two rounds of your match against Spain were quite smooth sailing for France, giving you a 2-0 advantage. Would you say the cause of Spain’s eventual win was because something changed in the way that your team played, or was it simply Spain adapting and improving as the game continued? Erik: I’d say it was probably a bit of both. The match was a continual change of tactics, on both sides I would say. We started off really nicely as you said, but we let them come back. That evidently cost us a lot. It was a series of change, whoever adapted faster won the rounds. It was mostly a 1 round margin between the two teams, but at one point we were losing 5-3. We did manage to pull it back though to 5-5 to get us back in the game, as we knew if they had a big advantage then it was game over for us. Throughout the match I think there was a lot of thinking involved, so from a spectator point of view I think it would have been interesting to see how both France & Spain changed as the match progressed. Q. Your match with ESP was undoubtedly one of the closest ever to happen across the last 4 years of this tournament, how did it feel to play in that match and how did you keep your men motivated when morale was dropping? Erik: Honestly, I think our match against Spain was one of the best matches any CNC has ever had to offer. 15 rounds were played in the end, totalling a playtime of 1.5hours. Were I a spectator in this match, I’m sure I would have enjoyed watching it a lot, however, from a player’s point of view, it was very stressful. I did like the challenge the match had to offer, but I often found myself getting frustrated with my own performance in this match as I genuinely believe I was one of the worst contributors to the match that day. In a team sense, I don’t think we ever once lost morale. We never doubted that we could come back and win this game, so we just tried our best throughout and never gave up on victory. Even when we were two rounds down, as I said before, we managed to pull back through by keeping spirits high. In matches I do tend to listen to what my players have to say and what their opinions are on different situations (even if I do sometimes ignore it), but as I said before I will always advise what I believe to be best, and to be honest, I didn’t have to say anything to them to keep the spirit up. Overall, as a cavalry player that game was very intense but also extremely enjoyable. Q. Last week's match against Spain was the first time France lost a group stage match in CNC history. How do you feel about that? Erik: I do consider our defeat against the Spaniards a failure, but not as a critical one. It sucks a lot to be losing a group stage match, but we do have the benefit of not being out of the competition entirely. I know we have what we need to go far into the tournament, so yes, this defeat is a failure, but it will not kill us. We have to make sure we win all the rest of the matches to qualify for the Semi-Finals, and once we get there, it can become anyone’s match. It doesn’t change anything that we lost, we have exactly the same aims and mentality as at the start of the competition, and I’m sure we will get back on our feet as soon as the next match comes. It’s not as if the defeat was a humiliation, we lost 8-7. If there were two more rounds than we may have won it, we just happened to lose at the 8 round mark. I don’t think it has made anything harder for us as I was expecting tough Semi’s no matter if we came first or second in the group stage. I’m sure all teams once in the Semi-Finals will have a hard time winning. Just to note as well, last year UK lost badly to France in the group stage, it was 8-2, but they ended up beating France in the final with an 8-5 finish. This just proves that a group stage defeat is not a defeat for the whole CNC. Q. Out of all the teams participating, are there any which you are really looking forward to playing, and why? Erik: After our defeat against Spain, I’d say the match we are most looking forward to is against Poland. Poland has always been a tough opposition, and they are playing as Cuirassiers this year again, so we will need to adapt to that class as well. I also have a slight personal thing about beating Poland, because the last time I faced them was in the FRA v POL 2014 final, which we lost under my lead, so I’m really looking forward to a good, challenging revenge match. Beating Poland is probably our ticket to the Semi-Final, so there’s a lot riding on it. We can’t fail again. Q. Similarly, were there any teams that at the very beginning of the tournament you were a bit apprehensive about fighting, and why? Erik: No, none at all. For a simple reason, which is I gave myself and my team a clear aim in the CNC. We are participating to win and so there is no aim below that. Since we all agreed on that mentality, we can’t allow ourselves to be doubtful or pressured about a match. We have to win against every opponent we face eventually to get there anyway, so there’s no point doubting ourselves. If we play the right way, I truly believe we have this, and that’s the only way we can think if we want to win this CNC. Winning this is my last big aim as a member of the community. I had the honour of winning every tournament group-wise there is with the 4e, but I tripped on the last step as Captain of France in 2014. I will not allow that mistake to happen again this year. Sukesa and I both have this Cup as our last goal in this game, seeing as it’s the only title we haven’t won for ourselves, and so I wish for us to win it to finish off my career of Mount & Blade. CNC is probably the hardest thing to win Cavalry-wise, there’s been no finals that are completely one-sided, and we’ve had a different winner every year: Poland, France and UK, and so the thought of winning in such a difficult tournament makes me want it so much more. | (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/47/7/1511652123-0ty4r.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/47/7/1511652123-0ty4r.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/47/7/1511652123-0ty4r.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/47/7/1511652123-0ty4r.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/47/7/1511652123-0ty4r.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/47/7/1511652123-0ty4r.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/47/7/1511652123-0ty4r.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/47/7/1511652123-0ty4r.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/47/7/1511652123-0ty4r.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/47/7/1511652123-0ty4r.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/47/7/1511652123-0ty4r.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/47/7/1511652123-0ty4r.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/47/7/1511652123-0ty4r.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/47/7/1511652123-0ty4r.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/47/7/1511652123-0ty4r.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/47/7/1511652123-0ty4r.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/47/7/1511652123-0ty4r.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/47/7/1511652123-0ty4r.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/47/7/1511652123-0ty4r.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/47/7/1511652123-0ty4r.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/47/7/1511652123-0ty4r.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/47/7/1511652123-0ty4r.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/47/7/1511652123-0ty4r.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/11/1458489887-interviews1.png) |
Match: Italy vs Ireland
Date & Hour: Friday 1st, 20.15 GMT / 21,15 CET
Number of players (8, 10 or 12): 8
Match: Ireland vs Slavic Countries Team
Date & Hour: Sunday 03/12, at 19:00 GMT.
Minimum number of players (8, 10 or 12): 8.
| (https://www.pianocat.de/wp-content/themes/learning2/img/patreon/pusheen-sir_cropped.png) | Q. Welcum Cage: (https://i.imgur.com/hHrpLuE.png) Q. Now, as we all know, UK is the famous winner of previous CNC. Does it influence your ambitions or do you feel a negative pressure of proving worthy successors? Cage: Winning CNC last year naturally puts an expectation by both ourselves and other nations to perform well; the standard was set high last year. I think every UK player, including myself, is motivated to achieve the ambition of performing to an equal, if not higher, standard. Saying that, at no point have I felt that the success of the previous team has put a negative pressure on us to perform to the standard of last year. Our ethos is largely to perform well as a team and to play as well as we can. That way we can assure ourselves that our ambitions will be met. Q. The 2017 teams seems to be quite different from 2016, with only several key players being back. Where does the new wave of British players come from? Cage: The team is indeed very different from last year, to the extent that most players have never competed in a CNC. Whilst the British cavalry community has seen many great players become inactive, there has been somewhat of a resurgence of new life through many international regiments competing at a high level, some of which are relatively new. Many of these players, including myself, just started playing cavalry just before and during the last CNC, with some even later. This is an exciting prospect as it has created a team of players, many of which have not been tested to a competitive standard of this level, really anything could happen because of that. Q. There was some debate about choosing a captain for UK team, as I remember, and you were considered to be THE captain candidate at one point. How did you reach the final conclusion and how goes your cooperation with Skittles? Cage: There was some debate for the UK captaincy, that is no lie. As the only Brit leading a competitive regiment at the time, I felt I was somewhat qualified to give the UK team the leadership it deserved, especially since no one had jumped the gun to immediately apply. Considering that, I felt that the Captain should have experience of the CNC to really be able to enrich newcomers to the tournament about what to expect. So, I was not really that sure what would be best for the team. Whilst thinking this over, as many of you know, Glenn applied for the captaincy yet that flared up and settled back down fast with still no captain (it was the first time I thought that vice-captain under a more experienced player would be a more suitable compromise). Still later then, Skittles applied for the Captaincy and we quickly agreed amongst each other that a partnership between us to would be ideal with our current roles. Since then, the co-operation between us has been extremely beneficial towards helping the team, allowing us to bring together players from many different areas of the community. We have both since fulfilled leading and organisational roles, with every decision being made with agreement between us both; this has worked out well for the team so far, and will hopefully continue to do so. Q. UK in a confederate country. How diverse is your team, do you have many non-English players or has the Yorkshire dominated you? Cage: The Q. Out of all the teams participating, are there any which you are really looking forward to playing, and why? Cage: It would be a huge lie to say I wasn’t looking forward to playing the French. They have always been at the very top of the CNC scene, and this has not changed in the slightest this year. Before the CNC started, we had a friendly with them. Although we lost 8-6, this highlighted to us how competitive and close our match would be (if we get the chance). To add to that, if we do face them it would be in the semis or finals, so the stakes and the nerves would be high. I cannot possibly leave out the Germans either. Their roster this year is very sharp so we really must bring our a-game to a team that will 100% bring theirs. The UK has not faced them very many times over the course of the CNC throughout its years so anything could happen in that regard. Q. Any other thoughts on CNC you’d like to share? Cage: This tournament is very good in bringing some life into this community. Some say the competitive edge is dying, yet this brings a relief, perhaps an addition, to that, at least for a few months. Many exciting matches are coming up which I cannot wait to play in or watch, the ESP vs FRA game I feel was a testament to the quality of matches to come, and I’m sure it won’t disappoint. | (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/47/7/1511652123-0ty4r.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/47/7/1511652123-0ty4r.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/47/7/1511652123-0ty4r.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/47/7/1511652123-0ty4r.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/47/7/1511652123-0ty4r.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/47/7/1511652123-0ty4r.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/47/7/1511652123-0ty4r.png) (https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/57/f1/b6/57f1b6597c81f063c9b75bab6dd4541f.jpg) |
I am giving my organizing rights and responsabilities to Rastignac for the time I will be away.
The lancers are no longer allowed and Spain is disqualified from the competition for using them.
And team monaco is formed under my leadership
The Irish team has dropped out.:o
And team monaco is formed under my leadership
Co-Captain of tem monaco, ready for duty
cool interviews tho, loving it
The Irish team has dropped out..-.
And team monaco is formed under my leadership
Co-Captain of tem monaco, ready for duty
cool interviews tho, loving it
Harford Cav Company aylmao more like not existing
The Irish team has dropped out.
The Irish team has dropped out.
As a temporary head of CNC, I'd like to make an official statement about this:
OK
The Irish team has dropped out.
As a temporary head of CNC, I'd like to make an official statement about this:
OK
The Irish team has dropped out.
As a temporary head of CNC, I'd like to make an official statement about this:
OK
as temporary co head of cnc, i'd like to remove rastignac from the temporary organization of the cnc
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best intervierw so farnice englishford!
sry tardet yknow how the medias are!!!!!!!!!!!!! its not what i said!!! diffamation!!
best intervierw so far
sry tardet yknow how the medias are!!!!!!!!!!!!! its not what i said!!! diffamation!!
Rasti what is going on? Why nobody informed about kicking teams? Just wtf? Give official post about this thing! For example i have match versus Ireland and what now? Probably CNC is going to the hell.AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Rasti what is going on? Why nobody informed about kicking teams? Just wtf? Give official post about this thing! For example i have match versus Ireland and what now? Probably CNC is going to the hell.
Match: UK v BNL
Date & Hour: Saturday 02 December (7.30pm GMT) *tonight*
Minimum number of players (8, 10 or 12): 8
The lancers are no longer allowed and Spain is disqualified from the competition for using them.
The lancers are no longer allowed and Spain is disqualified from the competition for using them.
what about this?
The lancers are no longer allowed and Spain is disqualified from the competition for using them.
what about this?
The lancers are no longer allowed and Spain is disqualified from the competition for using them.
what about this?
it was a joke
[...] than sry, I can not say anything... :o
Match: North America vs Germanic Countries
Date & Hour: Sunday, 3.12.2017, 20:00 CET
Minimum number of players (8, 10 or 12): 8
UK |8-4| Benelux
A match of equality and tensity not entirely reflected in the final score. Despite initial problems, Benelux proves to be a sharp and serious opponent. Congratulations to both parties.
I am back so Rastignac is fired (https://static.tumblr.com/cdd9612ac6451bd0bd3c40715d7680d6/vx83wzu/UzAnq8kv9/tumblr_static_tumblr_static_8sdqrdkw36skcg888gckko0oc_640.jpg)
Group A : (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616521-banniereitalie2.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616599-vs.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616476-bannierepologne2.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616481-banniereslaves2.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616599-vs.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616467-banniereespagne2.png) Free week: (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616470-bannierefrance2.png) | (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.akamai.steamusercontent.com%2Fugc%2F434947378300553600%2F651F79A6D82797A57EDA15A14EC68AC848E2AFF2%2F&hash=4bb6f2dfa72b9b5ed6524051a314f18c89e22683) | Group B : (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616483-banniereuk2.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616599-vs.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616465-bannierebosches2.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616485-banniereturquie2.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616599-vs.png) (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616460-banniereamerique2.png) Free week: (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616462-bannierebenelux2.png) |
Really want to see GER vs UK :DMe, too.
As far as I was informed the american team has left the competetion as well?
Really want to see GER vs UK :DMe, too.
Match: Poland vs Spain
Date & Hour: Tuesday, 5.12.2017, 20:00 CET
Minimum number of players (8, 10 or 12): 8
Hello,
Change in the Turkish line-up!
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guess what the fleuron of the french cavalry plays for turkey!!!!!
12. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421715388-pologne2.jpg) Kamidas
13. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510618058-slovenie2.jpg) Fanest
14. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421715388-pologne2.jpg) Eldar
15. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421715388-pologne2.jpg) Kamidas
12. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421715388-pologne2.jpg) Kamidas
13. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510618058-slovenie2.jpg) Fanest
14. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421715388-pologne2.jpg) Eldar
15. (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421715388-pologne2.jpg) Kamidas
Change in our roster:
Remove Kamidas for tippling instead of attending matches. Kamidas, however, is staying.
Match: Turkey vs. BENELUX
Date & Hour: 5th of December 2017 Tuesday & 19.00 (7 pm) GMT
Minimum number of players (8, 10 or 12): 8
Hello again,Match: Turkey vs. BENELUX
Date & Hour: 5th of December 2017 Tuesday & 19.00 (7 pm) GMT
Minimum number of players (8, 10 or 12): 8
This match has been postponed to the following date:
Date & Hour: 6th of December 2017 Wednesday & 19.00 (7 pm) GMT
Have a good evening!
Good job everyone. Please remove me from team Poland, I wish everyone good luck.
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(https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420853808-bannierebenelux.png) TEAM PRESENTATION Benelux has always been a great team of the Cavalry Nations Cup. Throughout the years it always managed to perform extremely well, and face the very best teams the tournament had to offer, giving them either a really hard time, or a good beating. And there's a simple reason to that: Belgium and the Netherlands hold an impressive amount of incredibly skilled cavalry players. They did in the past, and they still do today despite the departure of some of their most important players like Martastik and Felix, who respectively led Belgium and the Netherlands in 2014, before it was put together in 2015, as Team Benelux. However this year, Benelux did not have it all easy. The team had troubles organizing itself, and saw tensions rise within its ranks. Tensions that ended rather badly and forced the team to a change of leadership, about two weeks ago. This time of transition cost a lot of time and efforts to all the team members involved, and it has resulted in Lio taking the head of the team, helped by Clausewitz as his Vice-Captain. The latter has always been an important figure of the Benelux team. He was Martastik's Vice-Captain in 2015, and he led the team in 2016, with Lio as his Vice-Captain. So these two know each other, and they know how to work together. It took them some days to re-organize the team and lead it out of this short crysis. Now it is fair to say that Benelux has a solid core of players and a more than capable duet to lead it to its upcoming challenges. Benelux only played two matches so far. They managed to get an 8-0 victory against North America, and were defeated 4 to 8 against reigning champions United Kingdom, in a match that was particularly tense and enjoyable, with the British players congratulating their opponents several times. Despite that loss Benelux still holds solid chances of qualifying to the semi-finals of the Cavalry Nations Cup, and the team they will probably have to challenge for that qualification is Team Germanic Countries. However before this crucial match happens, Benelux must make sure they don't drop precious points on the way, and this challenge starts tonight, against Turkey. | (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.akamai.steamusercontent.com%2Fugc%2F434947378300553600%2F651F79A6D82797A57EDA15A14EC68AC848E2AFF2%2F&hash=4bb6f2dfa72b9b5ed6524051a314f18c89e22683) | (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712152-banniereturquie.png) TEAM PRESENTATION Turkey has a very large and active community on Native, it is known, however it was never quite the same thing on Napoleonic Wars. But even if it is a rather small community on this module of the game, Turkey has participated in the 2015, 2016 and now 2017 editions of the Cavalry Nations Cup, making it a well-known and respected challenger of the competition. Even though it all happened quite smoothly, Turkey also witnessed a change withing its leadership this year. After the original Captain of the team (Gameshero) left that position, Turkey was without a leader for some time. Levoro joined in and changed that, taking the head of the team with his former Captain acting as second in command. Levoro was the Captain of Turkey in 2015, but was not a part of Caucasian's team in 2016, since he was on a break from the game. However his return did some good to the Turkish team, as a lot of changes came with it. The new Captain did not hesitate to make many changes in his roster, removing inactive players to welcome new, more motivated members. Changes within the Turkish team were still happening just a few days ago. If this might be the signs of an unstable team, with Levoro you can be sure that it's just a way to motivate the players to do their best and earn their spot in the Turkish line-up. Historically, Turkey never managed to go past the group stage. This year they were unfortunate and had to face two extremely strong opponents in their first two matches, resulting in a 1-8 defeat to the United Kingdom, and a 0-8 defeat to the Germanic Countries, and leaving Turkey with little if no chances to reach the semi-finals. Does that mean they are going to give up and play their last two matches without caring? Certainly not. Turkey always was one of the most motivated and involved teams of the tournament, showing excellent spirit and fair-play attitude every single time. We must all expect them to continue with that spirit and try to punch Benelux as hard as they can. And that's the spirit we all want to see for this match. Turkey is gifted with a couple of insanely strong individuals. It would be the fair thing to do to mention Caucasian and Franco-Turksih player Harford, who both played in various Cavalry Napoleonic Wars League matches, and even finals, with the 4e and 5e Hussards. Players like them are used to competitive cavalry matches and hard challenges. They will be ready to face Benelux tonight, and give them a hard time on the field. |
Franco-Turksih player Harfordnani kore
"And there's a simple reason to that: Belgium and the Netherlands hold an impressive amount of incredibly skilled cavalry players. They did in the past, and they still do today despite the departure of some of their most important players like Martastik and Felix, who respectively led Belgium and the Netherlands in 2014, before it was put together in 2015, as Team Benelux."
:')
Well that went just a tad worse than I had expected. x)
Good game BENELUX :D
gg Benelux
"turquey" ???? bigue son of eux bitch
im interested to take the jobHave a break, have a kebab
im interested to take the job
Match: Germanic Countries vs United Kingdom
Date & Hour: Tonight - 20:00 CET
Minimum number of players (8, 10 or 12): 10
Good luck lads!
I'm scared. :(Match: Germanic Countries vs United Kingdom
Date & Hour: Tonight - 20:00 CET
Minimum number of players (8, 10 or 12): 10
Good luck lads!
Looking forward to this one! Hopefully it does not run into the Arsenal match ;)
Looking forward to this one! Hopefully it does not run into the Arsenal match ;)
Looking forward to this one! Hopefully it does not run into the Arsenal match ;)
Wouldn't want to miss the clash of the century that is Arsenal B against BATE Borisov in an unforgettable Europa League match up.
Match: Germanic Countries vs United Kingdom
Date & Hour: Tonight - 20:00 CET
Minimum number of players (8, 10 or 12): 10
Good luck lads!
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(https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616483-banniereuk2.png) TEAM PRESENTATION 1. Last year's champions 2. Cool accents to be honest 3. Bad food 4. Arsenal Also Hawk is in it | (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.akamai.steamusercontent.com%2Fugc%2F434947378300553600%2F651F79A6D82797A57EDA15A14EC68AC848E2AFF2%2F&hash=4bb6f2dfa72b9b5ed6524051a314f18c89e22683) | (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616465-bannierebosches2.png) TEAM PRESENTATION https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myaEnLlg7uc |
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Ahhhhhhh
big match
two of the best teams ever to compete in the Cavalry Nations Cup
refereed by a cool Turk
CavNationsCup_1
starts in 1 hour
;(
TEAM PRESENTATION
1. Last year's champions
2. Cool accents to be honest
3. Bad food
4. Arsenal
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TEAM PRESENTATION
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myaEnLlg7uc
CONCLUSION
Don't miss it yeah?- Thank you for reading. I guess
4. Arsenal
4. Arsenal
refereed by a cool Turk
Also Hawk is in it
Germanic Countries|8-5| United Kingdom
Well, to tell you how close the match was, let me note that it started at 7 PM GMT and ended at 8.46 PM GMT. I thank both teams for their patience in certain breaks and times.
Great sportsmanship was observed, a clean, wonderful match added to the community's list of events.
*_*
Good stuff Germany!
*_*
Good stuff Germany!
deutsche qualität bruder
most intense match I've ever played gf allHuge GG to UK :-*
Oh and by the way, the 32GB (!) of video material should be uploaded still this week.most intense match I've ever played gf allHuge GG to UK :-*
Loved especially the large tactical aspect of the match!
6:4 Melee 4vs3 (the rounds end was an melee on foot)
Match: Poland vs Italy
Date & Hour: Tuesday, 10.12.2017, 21:15 CET
Minimum number of players (8, 10 or 12): 8
dab on that CNC
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I'll just say that I know my guys and how they play, we are better with lancers as we are used to play with them since we started playing warband years ago. Also, we were tired of playing heavy cavalry against hussars, wich is the most used class in CNC and wanted to give them a little surprise. If anyone still consider it as dirty advantage for Spain, well, they had the same chance to pick lancer as their class in this edition. Q. Some Spanish players were quite displeased with your class choice. How have you dealt with it? T: I must say that not a single decission was made on my own, the class choice was made by asking every spanish team player and explaining the situation in the first contact meeting we had like 1 month ago. Almost every veteran player agreed on playing as lancers and only 3-4 were really defending to play as heavy/hussars. To solve this we did some tests to show them that we were more prepared to face big teams with lancers and with the exception of two players the whole team accepted this point of view. From there we've been cooperating as a team and showing good performances in every match. Q. It’s no secret that some key players in Spanish team came from other Warband modules and are not active members of NW cavalry community. Since most of us know nothing about them, would you introduce some of them? T: The only new player you may be talking about is Charlini, he is a great and veteran infantry player from native module and is performing pretty well to be his first NW cavalry tournament. The other key players like Dume and SirAlecks are well known in the native community aswell but they are veterans of NW and played the previous editions of CNC so they are not new at all in this competition. Q. Whatever happens at this point, Spain can feel safe about leaving the group stage. Among the teams you might face in semi-finals, who would you be afraid of the most? T: We are not afraid of facing any team, we are looking forward to play more hard matches, like the one we played against France. Was a very close match, tense untill the last moment. Q. You have participared, as a captain, in all previous CNCs. Being one of the veterans, share with us your favourite anecdote/memory from the previous editions. T: If I had to choose only one it would be the "flag thiefs" in CNC 2015. In that year we started playing with new "tactics" and using the flag to mark places to figth around and more stuff. In the beginning it worked well so the enemy teams started sending guys to take our flag and drop it far away from us, forcing me to change the commands and tactics. Was very funny to watch a lot of hussars triying to take our flag in the middle of a round. Q. What is your favourite song by Enrique Iglesias and why? T: No doubt, Bailando. Great memories from the summer of the year that song was released. Q. Any other thoughts on CNC you’d like to share? T: Not too much, we are happy to be allowed to play this CNC as lancers, and Im glad to play with my lads one last time in this community. 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lol why is NA even in this? that's like almost 200 ping for most of the West Coast NA. They should Host half the rounds in an NA server and Half the rounds in an EU server when playing against the NA team to make it fair lol
lol why is NA even in this? that's like almost 200 ping for most of the West Coast NA. They should Host half the rounds in an NA server and Half the rounds in an EU server when playing against the NA team to make it fair lol
Match: Slavic Countries vs Spain
Date & Hour: Sunday, 10.12.2017, 19:00 CET
Minimum number of players (8, 10 or 12): 8
Erik, you´re fired!Poland 8-0 ItalyGG, Italy came close to winning a round several times but we managed. The match was refereed, by mutual agreement and Erik's approval, by myself, due to our planned referee not showing up.
Yes, we just worked out that in Erik's magical world it's tuesday today, hence the misunderstanding.
Match: Poland vs Italy
Date & Hour: Tuesday, 10.12.2017, 21:15 CET
Minimum number of players (8, 10 or 12): 8
Date & Hour: Tuesday, 10.12.2017, 21:15 CET
Tuesday
I wish you would stop making ridiculous excuses and take the responsibility for your errors instead of blaming others. Not kind of beheaviour I'd expect from you, I'm really disappointed here.
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What about the NA‘s?
Is there an offical team again?
I wish you would stop making ridiculous excuses and take the responsibility for your errors instead of blaming others. Not kind of beheaviour I'd expect from you, I'm really disappointed here.
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Match: UK v NAfrench, or polish Saturday?
Date & Hour: Saturday 16th December 7pm (GMT)
Minimum number of players (8, 10 or 12): 8
Changes in POL roster:
Removing: Tomato, Filson, Pliskin, Cygan
Adding: NOBODY
Sorry, we just poor bois from poor country with no active cavalry scene, we recruited some dirty hobos on our way here but they won't even serve us as cannon fodders so now we remove them
Match: UK v NA
Date & Hour: Saturday 16th December 7pm (GMT)
Minimum number of players (8, 10 or 12): 8
Match: North America vs Turkey
Date & Hour: 18th of December 2017 Monday & 19:00 (7 PM) GMT
Minimum number of players (8, 10 or 12): 8
Match: Poland vs Italy
Date & Hour: 17th of December 2017 Sunday at 19:00 (7 PM) CET
Minimum number of players (8, 10 or 12): 8
Add pls to east slavic team Pliskin [UKR]Sure, I adopted him, he is true ukr
also switch me back to france aswell please xxXDxDdDDDD
Anyone from BNL there atm?
Clausewitz is gone 'till 20th (I think) and Lio‘s afk since beginning of the week.
Anyone from BNL there atm?
Clausewitz is gone 'till 20th (I think) and Lio‘s afk since beginning of the week.
Anyone from BNL there atm?
Clausewitz is gone 'till 20th (I think) and Lio‘s afk since beginning of the week.
I told you I won't have a PC to my disposal until at least the 20th since I'm at my dorm (hence why I said you should contact Lio about it). I have an incredibly busy week coming up with exams for university, so NW is not one of my priorities right now. With Lio being absent at the moment, I doubt this match will happen this week. Our match will most likely have to be played next week (during the weekend more likely than not) if all goes according to plan.
Anyone from BNL there atm?
Clausewitz is gone 'till 20th (I think) and Lio‘s afk since beginning of the week.
I told you I won't have a PC to my disposal until at least the 20th since I'm at my dorm (hence why I said you should contact Lio about it). I have an incredibly busy week coming up with exams for university, so NW is not one of my priorities right now. With Lio being absent at the moment, I doubt this match will happen this week. Our match will most likely have to be played next week (during the weekend more likely than not) if all goes according to plan.
Disqualified
Anyone from BNL there atm?
Clausewitz is gone 'till 20th (I think) and Lio‘s afk since beginning of the week.
I told you I won't have a PC to my disposal until at least the 20th since I'm at my dorm (hence why I said you should contact Lio about it). I have an incredibly busy week coming up with exams for university, so NW is not one of my priorities right now. With Lio being absent at the moment, I doubt this match will happen this week. Our match will most likely have to be played next week (during the weekend more likely than not) if all goes according to plan.
Disqualified
That's it for us then, pack it in boys. The BNL will withdraw from the competition etcetc.
Poland has some problems with people lately, they lost a few members, why do they have to put up 10 players minimum?
Poland has some problems with people lately, they lost a few members, why do they have to put up 10 players minimum?
PILNUJ WŁASNEGO INTERESU... NIE PODOBA MI SIĘ TWOJA GĘBA
I'm polish, can I join?
I'm polish, can I join?
Rasti..!!!
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(https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421712142-bannierefrance.png) TEAM PRESENTATION With their gaze firmly on this year’s title, France will aim to console their final losses in 2014 and 2016, by first overcoming perhaps their most important match yet. As most know, France has reached the finals on all three previous editions of the tournament, winning in 2015. Although France are seen as a team to struggle in high-stakes matches, they, clearly, have the potential to perform outstandingly, but must do so in this crucial moment to solidify their place in the final four. Tomorrow’s match is certainly one of those high-stakes matches, deciding the position of group A and its semi-final contenders. You all know about the French team: its players, its Captains and its regiments, so I won’t dwell on that. All teams have strengths and weaknesses and here are a few of France’s. Strengths: 1. France boasts having one of the most active communities, harbouring easily some of the most experienced, competitive and skilled players in the game, players which are very experienced also with the teamwork aspect rather than just independent skill. Overall, this gives France a huge advantage to build a team that from the start will challenge the top spot. 2. Furthermore, France has always had experienced leadership, and this year is no different, being led by Erik who has regimental and international leadership experience of several years. No doubt a huge benefit for especially tough matches. Weaknesses: 1. With a team of as high prestige as France, weaknesses are hard to come by, but by no means excluded. The French team is comprised of players from all parts of the French and international communities. Therefore, it has always been a challenge for the Captains to gather everyone and to get them to work together the best they can. As a result, the team working aspect of the team could suffer, yet all players are determined to set aside tensions to play well together. 2. 🐙 Rastignac: FRA weaknesess: TELNITZ NOT IN THE TEM | (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.akamai.steamusercontent.com%2Fugc%2F434947378300553600%2F651F79A6D82797A57EDA15A14EC68AC848E2AFF2%2F&hash=4bb6f2dfa72b9b5ed6524051a314f18c89e22683) | (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/04/1421715386-bannierepologne.png) TEAM PRESENTATION Poland also have their gazes on the top spots this year. To reclaim their glory of 2014, first they must face one of the strongest teams in the tournament. This year’s Polish team is comprised of a new captain, but certainly no new player. Zahari has years’ experience with the game, most recently leading the 10ph to be one of the top regiments in the game. He will aim to use this experience to enrich the performance of Poland. Poland, as a whole, is made up of a variety of players, the core of it being ex-10ph members, some having 1 year and some having 4 years’ experience, dating back to their victory in 2014. Poland therefore is no easy opposition, especially with their incredibly charismatic and skilled player Rastignac, which makes them clear favourites to win. Strengths: 1. Poland has always found huge success with their class. After initially trialling out as hussars, they finally chose cuirassiers which has provided them much success in the past. With a huge chunk of players being from the 10ph, they are already well-drilled in terms of formation, offense and defence which will provide huge challenge for any team they face. In addition to this, the Polish players (bar a few) already have deep familiarity with each other, this surely makes the teamplay required for formations a little easier to manage and thrive from. Weaknesses: 1. If isolated, the cuirassier is always outclassed, regardless of the player. The class and indeed the players are weak alone and will be picked off one by one if the team is not careful. Poland will try and use team-orientated movement to prevent their weaknesses being exposed and capitalised upon. |
Very nice and well written preview Cage, thanks a bunch for that!
Not as good as the UK v GER preview, but still enjoyable :P
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Yes, you can join, absolutely!
Changes in POL roster:
Removing: Tomato, Filson, Pliskin, Cygan, Lorucas
Adding: NOBODY
ReallyPoland|8-6| France
They've just been better ;D ;D ;DReallyPoland|8-6| France
Poland|8-6| France
Match: Benelux vs Germanic Countries
Date & Hour: Thursday - 21.12, 20:00 CET
Minimum number of players (8, 10 or 12): 8
Please remove Termi from the german roster.
Merci.
Please add:
12. NoahLuemmel
Match: Benelux vs Germanic Countries
Date & Hour: Thursday - 21.12, 20:00 CET
Minimum number of players (8, 10 or 12): 8
Please remove Termi from the german roster.
Merci.
Please add:
12. NoahLuemmel
Respect most nations have it, some clearly don`t.
I guess rule 10 can`t be applied by some, sad to see the last CNC go like this.
Respect most nations have it, some clearly don`t.Excuse me?
I guess rule 10 can`t be applied by some, sad to see the last CNC go like this.
Merry Christmas <3Spoiler(https://hugelolcdn.com/i/487674.png)[close]
Merry Christmas hope Santa Claus dont bring u coal!!!!But coal is a valuable commodity, you can use it to heat your house ;D
Heheheheheheeh ;D ;D
But coal is a valuable commodity, you can use it to heat your house ;D
Group A: 1st Place: (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616467-banniereespagne2.png) 2nd Place: (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616476-bannierepologne2.png) | (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.akamai.steamusercontent.com%2Fugc%2F434947378300553600%2F651F79A6D82797A57EDA15A14EC68AC848E2AFF2%2F&hash=4bb6f2dfa72b9b5ed6524051a314f18c89e22683) | Group B: 1st Place: (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616465-bannierebosches2.png) 2nd Place: (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616483-banniereuk2.png) |
Match: Poland vs Germanic Countries
Date & Hour: Sunday, 7.1 - 20:00 CET.
Minimum number of players (10 or 12): 10
Best of luck!
Is it too late to sign up with an Icelandic cav team?! 8)
Is it too late to sign up with an Icelandic cav team?! 8)No, welcome to the semi-finals.
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(https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616465-bannierebosches2.png) TEAM PRESENTATION The Germanic Countries finished first of their group, beating everyone on the way. In a group they shared with Benelux and the United Kingdom, this simple fact already tells a lot. This team is composed of extremely strong, experienced and motivated players. Everything you need to go far in a competition, really. The team is led by experienced officers, who have made a habit of tense and competitive cavalry matches over the years. These leading figures belong to the Nr.6, which is a regiment that is amongst the very best cavalry units of this community. They have been playing and leading 1v1 matches for years, they will know what to do tonight on the field, we can be sure of that. The Germans have managed to beat reigning champions United Kingdom 8 to 5 in the group stage, and that was probably their biggest achievement so far in the tournament. Tonight against Poland, they migth be put in trouble by the fact that they'll be facing heavy cavalry. They will need to adjust to that, and do it fast. If they don't, it might cost them precious rounds, and hurt them later in the match. However as I said these players are experienced and they know what they do when they get on the field. Their main strength, to me, would be their ability to use a very aggressive playstyle when they need to, while staying able to switch to a more defensive attitude. Their teamplay sure is on point, and they follow their leader's commands with no major issues, we've seen this in the videos they have uploaded. If the Germanic Coutries manage to overcome the challenge of a different class facing them tonight, and play as strong as they used us to, then they will be a real threat to this Polish team. | (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.akamai.steamusercontent.com%2Fugc%2F434947378300553600%2F651F79A6D82797A57EDA15A14EC68AC848E2AFF2%2F&hash=4bb6f2dfa72b9b5ed6524051a314f18c89e22683) | (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616476-bannierepologne2.png) TEAM PRESENTATION Poland also made it out of the group stage, finishing second to Spain. Their defeat to Spain in the lancer vs cuirassier clash was a quite heavy one, but the team sure did manage to land back on its feet, get back to work, and this led them to eventually beating France, and winning their ticket to the semi-final. Beating France obviously was Poland's biggest achievement in this Cavalry Nations Cup so far, and it should be inspiring for the Poles, since the Germanic Countries play the hussar class in a rather similar way to the French. However a match is never the same twice, and Poland will need to come with a strong will and a couple of good ideas to beat the Germans tonight. Poland play as a heavy cavalry unit, and they give sense to this class in the game, by staying very close to each other, and helping each other out a lot. They know they are slower, they know it is harder for them to move, so they don't put their whole strategy on moving fast. Simple as that. But as simple as it might seem, staying together as one strong unit in the cavalry game is far from easy. It asks a lot of focus and attention to the players. The Poles, just like the Germans, need to be at 100% tonight. But winning this semi-final is a goal they can really achieve. Poland was the first team to win a Cavalry Nations Cup, in 2014, and they never reached the final again ever since. So God knows what would happen if they did a second time. Poland is a ressourceful and dedicated team. They will get on the field tonight with a plan, and a strong will to beat the Germans. If they manage to use their heavy cavalry unit's advantages, and forbid the Germans to pick up their heavy swords (giving them an important power), then victory will be within their reach. |
Changes in POL roster:
Adding Jeżyk
And Kokosz pls
Changes in POL roster:
Adding Jeżyk
Done
GG Germany :) well playedOh my god, what a game!
Match: United Kingdom vs SpainGL ;)
Date & Hour: Tuesday 9th @ 9:00PM GMT
Minimum number of players (10 or 12): 10
inb4 germans loose to spain in final
Can you join Spain for the finals Pls?inb4 germans loose to spain in final
Wir haben unsere Bildschirme erst ab der 3. Runde angemacht ;) das war die Taktik.
Match: United Kingdom vs SpainShame it's such a late time. :(
Date & Hour: Tuesday 9th @ 9:00PM GMT
Minimum number of players (10 or 12): 10
Match: United Kingdom vs Spain
Date & Hour: Tuesday 9th @ 9:00PM GMT
Minimum number of players (10 or 12): 10
Match: United Kingdom vs SpainShame it's such a late time. :(
Date & Hour: Tuesday 9th @ 9:00PM GMT
Minimum number of players (10 or 12): 10
If I am able to attend I'll try to record it.
Wir haben unsere Bildschirme erst ab der 3. Runde angemacht ;) das war die Taktik.
Wow Hannes im internationalen Board, deutsch schreiben xd
Das schaffst auch nur du :p
pscht ::)Wir haben unsere Bildschirme erst ab der 3. Runde angemacht ;) das war die Taktik.
Wow Hannes im internationalen Board, deutsch schreiben xd
Das schaffst auch nur du :p
War vill Absicht ;)
Match: United Kingdom vs Spain
Date & Hour: Tuesday 9th @ 9:00PM GMT
Minimum number of players (10 or 12): 10
Match: United Kingdom vs Spain
Date & Hour: Tuesday 9th @ 9:00PM GMT
Minimum number of players (10 or 12): 10
This match will take place on CavNationsCup_1, and will be refereed by Rastignac (POL). Good luck to both teams!
Match: United Kingdom vs Spain
Date & Hour: Tuesday 9th @ 9:00PM GMT
Minimum number of players (10 or 12): 10
This match will take place on CavNationsCup_1, and will be refereed by Rastignac (POL). Good luck to both teams!
i dont like rasti prob he is going to rig the results.
Match: United Kingdom vs Spain
Date & Hour: Tuesday 9th @ 9:00PM GMT
Minimum number of players (10 or 12): 10
If Spain wins, Gibraltar comes back home!xD let's just solve all conflicts in M&B
Video of the Semi-Final match Poland vs Germanic Countries;Spoilerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSRATfTr_-0[close]
What are you doing with that TAB button? It's epileptic how you rapidly switch the scoreboard on and off all the freaking time xDyea sorry, but it's because we have the rule that the dead ones switch out and not many are recognizing that rule tbh, so I'm watching for deaths and spectators etc.
Video of the Semi-Final match Poland vs Germanic Countries;Spoilerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSRATfTr_-0[close]
Thanks a lot for the video! I'll make sure to watch it when I find the time
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(https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616483-banniereuk2.png) TEAM PRESENTATION The United Kingdom team might very well be one of the most, if not the most ressourceful team of the history of the Cavalry Nations Cup. Losing quite heavily to France in last year's group stage did not stop them from taking their revenge and beating the French team in the final match. So one thing is certain, never consider the Brits beaten in advance. This year's reigning champions qualified to the final stage of the tournament, finishing second of their group after losing to the Germanic Countries, who secured their ticket to the final just a few days ago against Poland. The British rely on a core of extremely experienced and skilled players, who have all won many titles in various cavalry competitions in the past. Added to these experienced and leading figures are several relatively new players, who have shown excellent skills and a strong will to achieve great things on this game lately. Many players whose names we did not know much about before the competition have proved they could be counted on in this Cavalry Nations Cup, and it only makes us more eager to see them play tonight. UK's ressourcefulness will be put to a test tonight against Spain, since the British players will be facing lancers. If they can adapt the way they play to this different opposition, they will be more than able to get a good result and win the match. However that won't be easy for them, and it is more than safe to assume that they won't win every round tonight. If they do manage to keep calm, focused and motivated when they lose rounds, then they might get the advantage. Matches are won on skills as much as morale and endurance, and it is a thing that Skittles and Cage, UK's captain and vice-captain, know well. These two have been doing a great job leading the team so far, both of them being leading figures in successful hussar regiments. No doubt they will put all of their efforts in this match tonight. Also Hawk is in it | (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.akamai.steamusercontent.com%2Fugc%2F434947378300553600%2F651F79A6D82797A57EDA15A14EC68AC848E2AFF2%2F&hash=4bb6f2dfa72b9b5ed6524051a314f18c89e22683) | (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616467-banniereespagne2.png) TEAM PRESENTATION Spain has undoubtedly been one of the strongest teams this year. After picking the lancer class, the Spaniards have had excellent results, beating France in an extremely close match, then winning against Poland to secure their first place in Group A. After all these victories, it is fair to assume that the Spanish team can be confident, and sure of its strength. The Spaniards are all experienced players of the game. Traeeseron is leading the team for the fourth time in a row, Spain was never led by any other captain, and that's no surprise since he's always been doing a quality work with his team. This year he is helped by his vice-captain Victor, who has won silverware with the 4e Hussards and knows how to play those kind of long competitions. This pair will be leading Spain to a very tough match against UK tonight. If Spain won, they would participate in their first ever final, against the Germanic Countries. Obviously all the players want to achieve that, and even more. Spain's best achievement in the Cavalry Nations Cup was a third place, in 2015. This year however, they really seem to have what it takes to lift the title. Their chances really are equal to the other teams. So if they manage to perform as well as they did against France, then they can put the British team in trouble, and win the match. For that they will need to use all the advantages that the lancer class offers, without letting the Brits counter them. They can also rely on a couple of extremely skilled players who have clearly been killing machines since the competition has started. If the Spaniards come motivated, well organised, and these killing machines are in shape, then we must all be ready for a great show. |
Also Hawk is in it
I have started a Gérard Depardieu trend on FSE and I am both happy and scared about itdon't be scared, best memes around
I have started a Gérard Depardieu trend on FSE and I am both happy and scared about ityou should definitly worry about it,
I have started a Gérard Depardieu trend on FSE and I am both happy and scared about itdon't be scared, best memes around
you should definitly worry about it,RémiERIK LE ROUGE.
how OP lancers are compared to hussars.
Eh, debatable.
Eh, debatable.
Debatable, but not to be debated, not here again. This controversy was given more than enough spotlight at the early stage, and seeing that nothing will be changed at this point, it's useless to bring it back. It is place for Depardieu's nudes, not negative emotions.
inb4 germans loose to spain in final
inb4 germans loose to spain in final
u saw it here first
inb4 germans loose to spain in final
u saw it here first
Short video from UK v Spain;Videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBMBgbIdHe0[close]
Match: United Kingdom vs Poland
Date & Hour: Tuesday 16th @ 19:30 GMT
Minimum number of players (10 or 12): 10
Match: Germanic Countries vs Spain
Date & Hour: Saturday 13.01.18 - 20:30 CET.
Minimum number of players (10 or 12): 10
Best of luck, spaniards!
Match: Germanic Countries vs SpainDate and time changed, sorry for the inconvenience.
Date & Hour: Sunday 14.01.18 - 18:00 CET.
Minimum number of players (10 or 12): 10
Best of luck, spaniards!
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(https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616465-bannierebosches2.png) TEAM PRESENTATION Introducing the teams over and over again is quite pointless, so we'll try and focus more on what both teams will need to do if they want to win the Champions Title tonight. The Germanic Countries are without a doubt one of the teams will the most quality in it. Both individually and collectively. During the semi-final against Poland however, they did seem to struggle a lot when it came to facing a different class (cuirassiers). That led them to losing three rounds in a row at the start of the match. Tonight the Germans will be facing lancers. They absolutely need to keep this match in their hands at the start of the match, otherwise they could lose the few rounds that would make the difference later. In other words, they can't let themselves a time of adaptation, they need to start winning rounds at the very start of the match. When they were 0-3 down against Poland, the Germans suddenly "woke up". As soon a they did, they turned into an absolute killing machine, and managed to win seven rounds in a row, before losing one more, then scoring the 8th round that won them the match (8-4 final score). If the Germanic Countries want to win the Cavalry Nations Cup tonight, they quite simply need to turn on the killing maching from round 1 to the very end of the match. They also musn't let Spain make a good use of their light horses, and try their best to avoid the deadly lances. This German team has character and a lot of will. Many teams would have just given up when they were 0-3 down, and even fewer if not none at all would have managed to win seven rounds in a row after that. Finals are oftenly won on motivation and dedication. The Germans sure have the quality they need to win tonight, so if their motivation stays at 100% throughout the whole thing, we could really see the Germanic Countires win it all tonight. | (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.akamai.steamusercontent.com%2Fugc%2F434947378300553600%2F651F79A6D82797A57EDA15A14EC68AC848E2AFF2%2F&hash=4bb6f2dfa72b9b5ed6524051a314f18c89e22683) | (https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/46/2/1510616467-banniereespagne2.png) TEAM PRESENTATION Spain was dominant in almost all of their matches so far. The only time they were truly put in trouble was against France, when the score was 7-7 and the match was in anyone's hands. However that evening it's the Spaniards that won the match, and this has to mean something. Spain has always been a skilled and deadly team in the Cavalry Nations Cup. However in the past editions, they usually got on the field against big teams, gave them more than a run for their money, then lost the match "with honours". This year is different, this year Spain wins these matches. That's the one tiny but crucial difference, they have what it takes to take down any team that faces them this year, and they make an excellent use of the lancer class, combining the strength of a heavy cavalry unit, and the maneuverability of a light cavalry unit. They dominated the United Kingdom throughout the whole semi-final, leading the match 7-0 at one point. We all pretty much knew who would win the match at this point, however Spain lost two rounds in a row to the Brits before finally scoring the 8th and qualifying to the final. This must be a lesson to the Spaniards, if they take the lead against the Germans tonight, they musn't give their opponent a single chance to come back (Poland did, and we know how it ended). Spain really has a good chance to be crowned champions tonight, but for that they will need to keep the match in hands until the end. |
they musn't give their opponent a single chance to come back (Poland did, and we know how it ended).
they musn't give their opponent a single chance to come back (Poland did, and we know how it ended).
I agree allowing your opponents a comeback is crucial mistake, best example of which was to be seen in FRA vs POL, when France lost after leading 5-1, I think their captains should receive a CNC Darwin Award.
Expect people screaming and insulting each other, maybe even some monkey noises, thats the spanish way.
inb4 germans loose to spain in final
Thank you all so much for allowing lancers. Thank you (in person) Diramuid for your great efford to make lancers a playable class. Seriously dude you can go fuck yourself.
I hope that we all learned our lesson to not allow lancers ever again or everyone is going to be playing lancer in the next cncs to come. Good luck to UK and Poland for the bronze match, good thing is: you don't have to face off against lancers.
They are somewhat imballanced if the player knows what he's doing. What would you say if I got a team here consisting of: Myself, SirAlecks, Peter, Shema, axL, Dume, Trebron, Sikick, Sir_Arthur and Relax to play lancers here? Its impossible but my point is, if a few competent lanceplayers come together here, its easy to outplay all the hussars because you have speed, range and manuevrebilaty on your side. Herefor lancers are imballanced and should be restrained from the tourny.
And Kanade, Im talking about competent not idiotic lancers who dont just run into somewhere with their eyes shut, but can target pick nicely. The shield thing I was referring to was about dismounted cav.
Thank you all so much for allowing lancers. Thank you (in person) Diramuid for your great efford to make lancers a playable class. Seriously dude you can go fuck yourself.
I hope that we all learned our lesson to not allow lancers ever again or everyone is going to be playing lancer in the next cncs to come. Good luck to UK and Poland for the bronze match, good thing is: you don't have to face off against lancers.
Good job Spain tho you played well.
Thank you all so much for allowing lancers. Thank you (in person) Diramuid for your great efford to make lancers a playable class. Seriously dude you can go fuck yourself.
I hope that we all learned our lesson to not allow lancers ever again or everyone is going to be playing lancer in the next cncs to come. Good luck to UK and Poland for the bronze match, good thing is: you don't have to face off against lancers.
Good job Spain tho you played well.
Thank you all so much for allowing lancers. Thank you (in person) Diramuid for your great efford to make lancers a playable class. Seriously dude you can go fuck yourself.
I hope that we all learned our lesson to not allow lancers ever again or everyone is going to be playing lancer in the next cncs to come. Good luck to UK and Poland for the bronze match, good thing is: you don't have to face off against lancers.
Good job Spain tho you played well.
There is a reason why lancers are not allowed, you can't do shit against them. UK, Fra and Ger loosing to mostly fucking no-names. The people that play every god damn day on CavGF, the best of the best, getting fucked by some monkeys with sticks. Atleast let us pick up the lances to fix the unbalanced range, but no. Spain won by choosing a OP troop class for groupmatches. Allowing Lancers was the biggest mistake in the history of the CNC. Fuck Irland and Fuck this god damn rulesetting. Fuck this shit. I'm out. The last CNC, the worst CNC. Erik you fucked up. I'm so god damn salty.
There is a reason why lancers are not allowed, you can't do shit against them.
Explanation:
Spain: no - names (in NW ofc)
Ger, UK, Fra: some of the best cav players in the game (in NW ofc)
didnt really seem like UK and Ger were some of the best seeing as poland gave us a way harder time than they did
Explanation:
Spain: no - names (in NW ofc)
Ger, UK, Fra: some of the best cav players in the game (in NW ofc)
I don't wanna reduce myself to his level, but I wouldn't be so sure about your sources for "known" players, also, if we are monkeys with sticks, why didn't you bring up a tactic to counter it? Poland did it, and despite the results it was one of the hardest matches we had, easily harder than this one because they actually used their brains. France did it, and if it wouldn't have been for individual mistakes and great plays from some of our players (nothing you can control, really) they would've most likely had it. But hey, good job at abusing your class advantages... oh wait.hahahaha lets go bro
PS: Might wanna try a module with a higher skill-cap next time before spouting such bold and stupid "arguments". Anyway, ggs, it was a good match nonetheless let's not fuck it up with those comments.
I don't wanna reduce myself to his level, but I wouldn't be so sure about your sources for "known" players, also, if we are monkeys with sticks, why didn't you bring up a tactic to counter it? Poland did it, and despite the results it was one of the hardest matches we had, easily harder than this one because they actually used their brains. France did it, and if it wouldn't have been for individual mistakes and great plays from some of our players (nothing you can control, really) they would've most likely had it. But hey, good job at abusing your class advantages... oh wait.hahahaha lets go bro
PS: Might wanna try a module with a higher skill-cap next time before spouting such bold and stupid "arguments". Anyway, ggs, it was a good match nonetheless let's not fuck it up with those comments.
calling cavplayers like dume and alecks who top the ultimate competitive scene nonames is so fucking funny
Thank you all so much for allowing lancers. Thank you (in person) Diramuid for your great efford to make lancers a playable class. Seriously dude you can go fuck yourself.
I hope that we all learned our lesson to not allow lancers ever again or everyone is going to be playing lancer in the next cncs to come. Good luck to UK and Poland for the bronze match, good thing is: you don't have to face off against lancers.
Good job Spain tho you played well.
Thank you all so much for allowing lancers. Thank you (in person) Diramuid for your great efford to make lancers a playable class. Seriously dude you can go fuck yourself.
I hope that we all learned our lesson to not allow lancers ever again or everyone is going to be playing lancer in the next cncs to come. Good luck to UK and Poland for the bronze match, good thing is: you don't have to face off against lancers.
Good job Spain tho you played well.
How is that bad tho? Almost every country uses hussars, only a few outliers go for heavy so I don't know the problem with every country using the same class.
well it appears that even in NW they are better
alright loser, enjoy silver
alright loser, enjoy silver
Also, yes, there is a big difference between native and NW cavalry, that‘s why Spain has never been successful in the last editions, playing as cuirassiers.
what i find funny is how you guys have no problems when hussars are the strongest unit and everybody chooses it except for spain and poland but when lancers are introduced you stick to hussars instead of adapting and then complain
why is it ok for hussars to be the strongest class by a wide margin and to everybody play them but it is wrong for lancers
if you truly were better you would've won with any class, half our team doesnt even play the game daily and when we do we play other mods and usually not cav at all and you still lost , but you still blame the lancers
Literally, I am laughing hard right now. Please don‘t try to make native cav not as dumb and modest as it is.
what i find funny is how you guys have no problems when hussars are the strongest unit and everybody chooses it except for spain and poland but when lancers are introduced you stick to hussars instead of adapting and then complain
why is it ok for hussars to be the strongest class by a wide margin and to everybody play them but it is wrong for lancers
if you truly were better you would've won with any class, half our team doesnt even play the game daily and when we do we play other mods and usually not cav at all and you still lost , but you still blame the lancers
You just stated why we blame lancers. Good job boy.
probably should work on your teamwork and stop blaming other classes heheYou mean all nations? Ow ok.
Germany made one out of it by being salty after losing to better playersJust stop.
Germany made one out of it by being salty after losing to better players
Germany made one out of it by being salty after losing to better players
And why the fuck do you have to stick your nose into things that you have nothing to do with. If I remember correctly you lost quite hard to team GER while playing as a hussar.
I don't know? I only played one match and that was vs Turkey?
Germany made one out of it by being salty after losing to better players
what? you are contradicting yourself in that sentence you wrote?I don't know? I only played one match and that was vs Turkey?
Well then, even fewer reasons to stick your nose into this.
I don't know? I only played one match and that was vs Turkey?Germany made one out of it by being salty after losing to better players
And why the fuck do you have to stick your nose into things that you have nothing to do with. If I remember correctly you lost quite hard to team GER while playing as a hussar.
can you not see that is the most contradictory sentence ever made btw?
Germany made one out of it by being salty after losing to better players
And why the fuck do you have to stick your nose into things that you have nothing to do with. If I remember correctly you lost quite hard to team GER while playing as a hussar.
Please show me the ones with 6688 hours only lancer playtime in warband my dude. And yeah either you are right Alecks or your friend piotes is. You choose because you two are talking about the same but stating completely different things, so one of you is talking shit.
what? you are contradicting yourself in that sentence you wrote?I don't know? I only played one match and that was vs Turkey?
Well then, even fewer reasons to stick your nose into this.
what? you are contradicting yourself in that sentence you wrote?I don't know? I only played one match and that was vs Turkey?
Well then, even fewer reasons to stick your nose into this.
Honestly Ciiges just fuck off back to native pal.
Why?Please show me the ones with 6688 hours only lancer playtime in warband my dude. And yeah either you are right Alecks or your friend piotes is. You choose because you two are talking about the same but stating completely different things, so one of you is talking shit.
The difference that you seem to not understand that both Piotes and myself are saying basically the same. Yes, Lancers are strong, specially against Hussars that can't adapt, and therefore if played correctly you have an advantage if the opponent is unprepared and now you complain about it instead of having picked said class if it was so easy and OP in the first place. Either you pick it, or you adapt to it. Not hard to really understand mate.
Please show me the ones with 6688 hours only lancer playtime in warband my dude. And yeah either you are right Alecks or your friend piotes is. You choose because you two are talking about the same but stating completely different things, so one of you is talking shit.
The difference that you seem to not understand that both Piotes and myself are saying basically the same. Yes, Lancers are strong, specially against Hussars that can't adapt, and therefore if played correctly you have an advantage if the opponent is unprepared and now you complain about it instead of having picked said class if it was so easy and OP in the first place. Either you pick it, or you adapt to it so that you still have the upper hand. Not hard to really understand mate.
Why?Please show me the ones with 6688 hours only lancer playtime in warband my dude. And yeah either you are right Alecks or your friend piotes is. You choose because you two are talking about the same but stating completely different things, so one of you is talking shit.
The difference that you seem to not understand that both Piotes and myself are saying basically the same. Yes, Lancers are strong, specially against Hussars that can't adapt, and therefore if played correctly you have an advantage if the opponent is unprepared and now you complain about it instead of having picked said class if it was so easy and OP in the first place. Either you pick it, or you adapt to it. Not hard to really understand mate.
Because if one is different from everyone else, the majority has to adjust?
And yes, you guys basically said the exact difference.
what? you are contradicting yourself in that sentence you wrote?I don't know? I only played one match and that was vs Turkey?
Well then, even fewer reasons to stick your nose into this.
Honestly Ciiges just fuck off back to native pal.
1) Not ur "pal"
2) I can and will stay here because I enjoy NW.
3) Don't be scared, next match I'll play you, I'll go easy on you!
the fact that I can top 3 modules and you just sit here crying after losing to my native team is just funny
HAHAHAHAAHAHAH
I love german salt
I'd like to hear Harford's balanced opinion on this
HAHAHAHAAHAHAH
I love german salt
Und ich schäme mich dafür das du deutsch bist.
1) I'll continue to call you "pal" pal
2) Well good for you buddy
3) Great, play hussar and you'll lose pal
the fact that you sit here and feel cool about "topping (who?) in 3 modules (which?) and I sit there having to deal with your bullshit and retarded behavior is just funny, also I can't remember seing you play for spain.
Durch den Salz werden wir btw auch nicht als Gewinner der CNC hervorgehen
Durch den Salz werden wir btw auch nicht als Gewinner der CNC hervorgehen
Ich meinte es ernst Felix.
Durch den Salz werden wir btw auch nicht als Gewinner der CNC hervorgehen
Ich meinte es ernst Felix.
Durch den Salz werden wir btw auch nicht als Gewinner der CNC hervorgehen
Ich meinte es ernst Felix.
wer bist du eig
Targeknight salty because he's bad, that's made my day
who said you had to? nobody. You feel obliged to do that because you can turn your anger about losing elsewhere.Who told you to comment every post? Mhm.
Targeknight salty because he's bad, that's made my day
who said you had to? nobody. You feel obliged to do that because you can turn your anger about losing elsewhere.Who told you to comment every post? Mhm.
You guys are partly right, of course we were angry. Of course we shared it. Of course some didn‘t act that well.
I‘m a bit frustrated, because I didn‘t want us to look like bad losers. We just wanted to point out, that it was the wrong choice. We never attacked Spain, because, like I‘ve said we highly respect the people we were playing with, but not the class.
And now, let‘s all cut this argument right here and let‘s look forward to the bronze match!
who said you had to? nobody. You feel obliged to do that because you can turn your anger about losing elsewhere.Who told you to comment every post? Mhm.
You guys are partly right, of course we were angry. Of course we shared it. Of course some didn‘t act that well.
I‘m a bit frustrated, because I didn‘t want us to look like bad losers. We just wanted to point out, that it was the wrong choice. We never attacked Spain, because, like I‘ve said we highly respect the people we were playing with, but not the class.
And now, let‘s all cut this argument right here and let‘s look forward to the bronze match!
who said you had to? nobody. You feel obliged to do that because you can turn your anger about losing elsewhere.Who told you to comment every post? Mhm.
I‘m a bit frustrated, because I didn‘t want us to look like bad losers. We just wanted to point out, that it was the wrong choice. We never attacked Spain, because, like I‘ve said we highly respect the people we were playing with, but not the class.
And now, let‘s all cut this argument right here and let‘s look forward to the bronze match!
Am 4. Mai 1771
Wie froh bin ich, daß ich weg bin! Bester Freund, was ist das Herz des Menschen! Dich zu verlassen, den ich so liebe, von dem ich unzertrennlich war, und froh zu sein! Ich weiß, du verzeihst mir's. Waren nicht meine übrigen Verbindungen recht ausgesucht vom Schicksal, um ein Herz wie das meine zu ängstigen? Die arme Leonore! Und doch war ich unschuldig. Konnt' ich dafür, daß, während die eigensinnigen Reize ihrer Schwester mir eine angenehme Unterhaltung verschafften, daß eine Leidenschaft in dem armen Herzen sich bildete? Und doch – bin ich ganz unschuldig? Hab' ich nicht ihre Empfindungen genährt? Hab' ich mich nicht an den ganz wahren Ausdrücken der Natur, die uns so oft zu lachen machten, so wenig lächerlich sie waren, selbst ergetzt? Hab' ich nicht – o was ist der Mensch, daß er über sich klagen darf! Ich will, lieber Freund, ich verspreche dir's, ich will mich bessern, will nicht mehr ein bißchen Übel, das uns das Schicksal vorlegt, wiederkäuen, wie ich's immer getan habe; ich will das Gegenwärtige genießen, und das Vergangene soll mir vergangen sein. Gewiß, du hast recht, Bester, der Schmerzen wären minder unter den Menschen, wenn sie nicht – Gott weiß, warum sie so gemacht sind! – mit so viel Emsigkeit der Einbildungskraft sich beschäftigten, die Erinnerungen des vergangenen Übels zurückzurufen, eher als eine gleichgültige Gegenwart zu ertragen.
Du bist so gut, meiner Mutter zu sagen, daß ich ihr Geschäft bestens betreiben und ihr ehstens Nachricht davon geben werde. Ich habe meine Tante gesprochen und bei weitem das böse Weib nicht gefunden, das man bei uns aus ihr macht. Sie ist eine muntere, heftige Frau von dem besten Herzen. Ich erklärte ihr meiner Mutter Beschwerden über den zurückgehaltenen Erbschaftsanteil; sie sagte mir ihre Gründe, Ursachen und die Bedingungen, unter welchen sie bereit wäre, alles herauszugeben, und mehr als wir verlangten – kurz, ich mag jetzt nichts davon schreiben, sage meiner Mutter, es werde alles gut gehen. Und ich habe, mein Lieber, wieder bei diesem kleinen Geschäft gefunden, daß Mißverständnisse und Trägheit vielleicht mehr Irrungen in der Welt machen als List und Bosheit. Wenigstens sind die beiden letzteren gewiß seltener.
Übrigens befinde ich mich hier gar wohl. Die Einsamkeit ist meinem Herzen köstlicher Balsam in dieser paradiesischen Gegend, und diese Jahreszeit der Jugend wärmt mit aller Fülle mein oft schauderndes Herz. Jeder Baum, jede Hecke ist ein Strauß von Blüten, und man möchte zum Maienkäfer werden, um in dem Meer von Wohlgerüchen herumschweben und alle seine Nahrung darin finden zu können.
Die Stadt selbst ist unangenehm, dagegen rings umher eine unaussprechliche Schönheit der Natur. Das bewog den verstorbenen Grafen von M., einen Garten auf einem der Hügel anzulegen, die mit der schönsten Mannigfaltigkeit sich kreuzen und die lieblichsten Täler bilden. Der Garten ist einfach, und man fühlt gleich bei dem Eintritte, daß nicht ein wissenschaftlicher Gärtner, sondern ein fühlendes Herz den Plan gezeichnet, das seiner selbst hier genießen wollte. Schon manche Träne hab' ich dem Abgeschiedenen in dem verfallenen Kabinettchen geweint, das sein Lieblingsplätzchen war und auch meines ist. Bald werde ich Herr vom Garten sein; der Gärtner ist mir zugetan, nur seit den paar Tagen, und er wird sich nicht übel dabei befinden.
Am 10. Mai
Eine wunderbare Heiterkeit hat meine ganze Seele eingenommen, gleich den süßen Frühlingsmorgen, die ich mit ganzem Herzen genieße. Ich bin allein und freue mich meines Lebens in dieser Gegend, die für solche Seelen geschaffen ist wie die meine. Ich bin so glücklich, mein Bester, so ganz in dem Gefühle von ruhigem Dasein versunken, daß meine Kunst darunter leidet. Ich könnte jetzt nicht zeichnen, nicht einen Strich, und bin nie ein größerer Maler gewesen als in diesen Augenblicken. Wenn das liebe Tal um mich dampft, und die hohe Sonne an der Oberfläche der undurchdringlichen Finsternis meines Waldes ruht, und nur einzelne Strahlen sich in das innere Heiligtum stehlen, ich dann im hohen Grase am fallenden Bache liege, und näher an der Erde tausend mannigfaltige Gräschen mir merkwürdig werden; wenn ich das Wimmeln der kleinen Welt zwischen Halmen, die unzähligen, unergründlichen Gestalten der Würmchen, der Mückchen näher an meinem Herzen fühle, und fühle die Gegenwart des Allmächtigen, der uns nach seinem Bilde schuf, das Wehen des Alliebenden, der uns in ewiger Wonne schwebend trägt und erhält; mein Freund! Wenn's dann um meine Augen dämmert, und die Welt um mich her und der Himmel ganz in meiner Seele ruhn wie die Gestalt einer Geliebten – dann sehne ich mich oft und denke : ach könntest du das wieder ausdrücken, könntest du dem Papiere das einhauchen, was so voll, so warm in dir lebt, daß es würde der Spiegel deiner Seele, wie deine Seele ist der Spiegel des unendlichen Gottes! – mein Freund – aber ich gehe darüber zugrunde, ich erliege unter der Gewalt der Herrlichkeit dieser Erscheinungen.
Ich weiß nicht, ob täuschende Geister um diese Gegend schweben, oder ob die warme, himmlische Phantasie in meinem Herzen ist, die mir alles rings umher so paradisisch macht. Das ist gleich vor dem Orte ein Brunnen, ein Brunnen, an den ich gebannt bin wie Melusine mit ihren Schwestern. – Du gehst einen kleinen Hügel hinunter und findest dich vor einem Gewölbe, da wohl zwanzig Stufen hinabgehen, wo unten das klarste Wasser aus Marmorfelsen quillt. Die kleine Mauer, die oben umher die Einfassung macht, die hohen Bäume, die den Platz rings umher bedecken, die Kühle des Orts; das hat alles so was Anzügliches, was Schauerliches. Es vergeht kein Tag, daß ich nicht eine Stunde da sitze. Da kommen die Mädchen aus der Stadt und holen Wasser, das harmloseste Geschäft und das nötigste, das ehemals die Töchter der Könige selbst verrichteten. Wenn ich da sitze, so lebt die patriarchalische Idee so lebhaft um mich, wie sie, alle die Altväter, am Brunnen Bekanntschaft machen und freien, und wie um die Brunnen und Quellen wohltätige Geister schweben. O der muß nie nach einer schweren Sommertagswanderung sich an des Brunnens Kühle gelabt haben, der das nicht mitempfinden kann.
Am 13. Mai
Du fragst, ob du mir meine Bücher schicken sollst? – lieber, ich bitte dich um Gottes willen, laß mir sie vom Halse! Ich will nicht mehr geleitet, ermuntert, angefeuert sein, braust dieses Herz doch genug aus sich selbst; ich brauche Wiegengesang, und den habe ich in seiner Fülle gefunden in meinem Homer. Wie oft lull' ich mein empörtes Blut zur Ruhe, denn so ungleich, so unstet hast du nichts gesehn als dieses Herz. Lieber! Brauch' ich dir das zu sagen, der du so oft die Last getragen hast, mich vom Kummer zur Ausschweifung und von süßer Melancholie zur verderblichen Leidenschaft übergehen zu sehn? Auch halte ich mein Herzchen wie ein krankes Kind; jeder Wille wird ihm gestattet. Sage das nicht weiter; es gibt Leute, die mir es verübeln würden.
Am 15. Mai
Die geringen Leute des Ortes kennen mich schon und lieben mich, besonders die Kinder. Eine traurige Bemerkung hab' ich gemacht. Wie ich im Anfange mich zu ihnen gesellte, sie freundschaftlich fragte über dies und das, glaubten einige, ich wollte ihrer spotten, und fertigten mich wohl gar grob ab. Ich ließ mich das nicht verdrießen; nur fühlte ich, was ich schon oft bemerkt habe, auf das lebhafteste : Leute von einigem Stande werden sich immer in kalter Entfernung vom gemeinen Volke halten, als glaubten sie durch Annäherung zu verlieren; und dann gibt's Flüchtlinge und üble Spaßvögel, die sich herabzulassen scheinen, um ihren Übermut dem armen Volke desto empfindlicher zu machen.
Ich weiß wohl, daß wir nicht gleich sind, noch sein können; aber ich halte dafür, daß der, der nötig zu haben glaubt, vom so genannten Pöbel sich zu entfernen, um den Respekt zu erhalten, ebenso tadelhaft ist als ein Feiger, der sich vor seinem Feinde verbirgt, weil er zu unterliegen fürchtet.
Letzthin kam ich zum Brunnen und fand ein junges Dienstmädchen, das ihr Gefäß auf die unterste Treppe gesetzt hatte und sich umsah, ob keine Kamerädin kommen wollte, ihr es auf den Kopf zu helfen. Ich stieg hinunter und sah sie an. – »Soll ich Ihr helfen, Jungfer?« sagte ich. – sie ward rot über und über. – »O nein, Herr!« sagte sie. – »Ohne Umstände«. – sie legte ihren Kringen zurecht, und ich half ihr. Sie dankte und stieg hinauf.
Den 17. Mai
Ich habe allerlei Bekanntschaft gemacht, Gesellschaft habe ich noch keine gefunden. Ich weiß nicht, was ich Anzügliches für die Menschen haben muß; es mögen mich ihrer so viele und hängen sich an mich, und da tut mir's weh, wenn unser Weg nur eine kleine Strecke miteinander geht. Wenn du fragst, wie die Leute hier sind, muß ich dir sagen: wie überall! Es ist ein einförmiges Ding um das Menschengeschlecht. Die meisten verarbeiten den größten Teil der Zeit, um zu leben, und das bißchen, das ihnen von Freiheit übrig bleibt, ängstigt sie so, daß sie alle Mittel aufsuchen, um es los zu werden. O Bestimmung des Menschen!
Aber eine recht gute Art Volks! Wenn ich mich manchmal vergesse, manchmal mit ihnen die Freuden genieße, die den Menschen noch gewährt sind, an einem artig besetzten Tisch mit aller Offen- und Treuherzigkeit sich herumzuspaßen, eine Spazierfahrt, einen Tanz zur rechten Zeit anzuordnen, und dergleichen, das tut eine ganz gute Wirkung auf mich; nur muß mir nicht einfallen, daß noch so viele andere Kräfte in mir ruhen, die alle ungenutzt vermodern und die ich sorgfältig verbergen muß. Ach das engt das ganze Herz so ein. – Und doch! Mißverstanden zu werden, ist das Schicksal von unsereinem.
Ach, daß die Freundin meiner Jugend dahin ist, ach, daß ich sie je gekannt habe! – ich würde sagen: du bist ein Tor! Du suchst, was hienieden nicht zu finden ist! Aber ich habe sie gehabt, ich habe das Herz gefühlt, die große Seele, in deren Gegenwart ich mir schien mehr zu sein, als ich war, weil ich alles war, was ich sein konnte. Guter Gott! Blieb da eine einzige Kraft meiner Seele ungenutzt? Konnt' ich nicht vor ihr das ganze wunderbare Gefühl entwickeln, mit dem mein Herz die Natur umfaßt? War unser Umgang nicht ein ewiges Weben von der feinsten Empfindung, dem schärfsten Witze, dessen Modifikationen, bis zur Unart, alle mit dem Stempel des Genies bezeichnet waren? Und nun! – ach ihre Jahre, die sie voraus hatte, führten sie früher ans Grab als mich. Nie werde ich sie vergessen, nie ihren festen Sinn und ihre göttliche Duldung.
Vor wenig Tagen traf ich einen jungen V. an, einen offnen Jungen, mit einer gar glücklichen Gesichtsbildung. Er kommt erst von Akademien dünkt sich eben nicht weise, aber glaubt doch, er wisse mehr als andere. Auch war er fleißig, wie ich an allerlei spüre, kurz, er hat hübsche Kenntnisse. Da er hörte, daß ich viel zeichnete und Griechisch könnte (zwei Meteore hierzulande), wandte er sich an mich und kramte viel Wissens aus, von Batteux bis zu Wood, von de Piles zu Winckelmann, und versicherte mich, er habe Sulzers Theorie, den ersten Teil, ganz durchgelesen und besitze ein Manuskript von Heynen über das Studium der Antike. Ich ließ das gut sein.
Noch gar einen braven Mann habe ich kennen lernen, den fürstlichen Amtmann, einen offenen, treuherzigen Menschen. Man sagt, es soll eine Seelenfreude sein, ihn unter seinen Kindern zu sehen, deren er neun hat; besonders macht man viel Wesens von seiner ältesten Tochter. Er hat mich zu sich gebeten, und ich will ihn ehster Tage besuchen. Er wohnt auf einem fürstlichen Jagdhofe, anderthalb Stunden von hier, wohin er nach dem Tode seiner Frau zu ziehen die Erlaubnis erhielt, da ihm der Aufenthalt hier in der Stadt und im Amthause zu weh tat.
Sonst sind mir einige verzerrte Originale in den Weg gelaufen, an denen alles unausstehlich ist, am unerträglichsten Freundschaftsbezeigungen.
Leb' wohl! Der Brief wird dir recht sein, er ist ganz historisch.
Am 22. Mai
Daß das Leben des Menschen nur ein Traum sei, ist manchem schon so vorgekommen, und auch mit mir zieht dieses Gefühl immer herum. Wenn ich die Einschränkung ansehe, in welcher die tätigen und forschenden Kräfte des Menschen eingesperrt sind; wenn ich sehe, wie alle Wirksamkeit dahinaus läuft, sich die Befriedigung von Bedürfnissen zu verschaffen, die wieder keinen Zweck haben, als unsere arme Existenz zu verlängern, und dann, daß alle Beruhigung über gewisse Punkte des Nachforschens nur eine träumende Regignation ist, da man sich die Wände, zwischen denen man gefangen sitzt, mit bunten Gestalten und lichten Aussichten bemalt – das alles, Wilhelm, macht mich stumm. Ich kehre in mich selbst zurück, und finde eine Welt! Wieder mehr in Ahnung und dunkler Begier als in Darstellung und lebendiger Kraft. Und da schwimmt alles vor meinen Sinnen, und ich lächle dann so träumend weiter in die Welt.
Daß die Kinder nicht wissen, warum sie wollen, darin sind alle hochgelahrten Schul- und Hofmeister einig; daß aber auch Erwachsene gleich Kindern auf diesem Erdboden herumtaumeln und wie jene nicht wissen, woher sie kommen und wohin sie gehen, ebensowenig nach wahren Zwecken handeln, ebenso durch Biskuit und Kuchen und Birkenreiser regiert werden: das will niemand gern glauben, und mich dünkt, man kann es mit Händen greifen.
Ich gestehe dir gern, denn ich weiß, was du mir hierauf sagen möchtest, daß diejenigen die Glücklichsten sind, die gleich den Kindern in den Tag hinein leben, ihre Puppen herumschleppen, aus- und anziehen und mit großem Respekt um die Schublade umherschleichen, wo Mama das Zuckerbrot hineingeschlossen hat, und, wenn sie das gewünschte endlich erhaschen, es mit vollen Backen verzehren und rufen: »mehr!« – das sind glückliche Geschöpfe. Auch denen ist's wohl, die ihren Lumpenbeschäftigungen oder wohl gar ihren Leidenschaften prächtige Titel geben und sie dem Menschengeschlechte als Riesenoperationen zu dessen Heil und Wohlfahrt anschreiben. – Wohl dem, der so sein kann! Wer aber in seiner Demut erkennt, wo das alles hinausläuft, wer da sieht, wie artig jeder Bürger, dem es wohl ist, sein Gärtchen zum Paradiese zuzustutzen weiß, und wie unverdrossen auch der Unglückliche unter der Bürde seinen Weg fortkeucht, und alle gleich interessiert sind, das Licht dieser Sonne noch eine Minute länger zu sehn – ja, der ist still und bildet auch seine Welt aus sich selbst und ist auch glücklich, weil er ein Mensch ist. Und dann, so eingeschränkt er ist, hält er doch immer im Herzen das süße Gefühl der Freiheit, und daß er diesen Kerker verlassen kann, wann er will.
Am 26. Mai
Du kennst von alters her meine Art, mich anzubauen, mir irgend an einem vertraulichen Orte ein Hüttchen aufzuschlagen und da mit aller Einschränkung zu herbergen. Auch hier habe ich wieder ein Plätzchen angetroffen, das mich angezogen hat.
Ungefähr eine Stunde von der Stadt liegt ein Ort, den sie Wahlheim [Fußnote] nennen. Die Lage an einem Hügel ist sehr interessant, und wenn man oben auf dem Fußpfade zum Dorf herausgeht, übersieht man auf einmal das ganze Tal. Eine gute Wirtin, die gefällig und munter in ihrem Alter ist, schenkt Wein, Bier, Kaffee; und was über alles geht, sind zwei Linden, die mit ihren ausgebreiteten Ästen den kleinen Platz vor der Kirche bedecken, der ringsum mit Bauerhäusern, Scheunen und Höfen eingeschlossen ist. So vertraulich, so heimlich hab' ich nicht leicht ein Plätzchen gefunden, und dahin lass' ich mein Tischchen aus dem Wirtshause bringen und meinen Stuhl, trinke meinen Kaffee da und lese meinen Homer. Das erstenmal, als ich durch einen Zufall an einem schönen Nachmittage unter die Linden kam, fand ich das Plätzchen so einsam. Es war alles im Felde; nur ein Knabe von ungefähr vier Jahren saß an der Erde und hielt ein anderes, etwa halbjähriges, vor ihm zwischen seinen Füßen sitzendes Kind mit beiden Armen wider seine Brust, so daß er ihm zu einer Art von Sessel diente und ungeachtet der Munterkeit, womit er aus seinen schwarzen Augen herumschaute, ganz ruhig saß. Mich vergnügte der Anblick: ich setzte mich auf einen Pflug, der gegenüber stand, und zeichnete die brüderliche Stellung mit vielem Ergetzen. Ich fügte den nächsten Zaun, ein Scheunentor und einige gebrochene Wagenräder bei, alles, wie es hinter einander stand, und fand nach Verlauf einer Stunde, daß ich eine wohlgeordnete, sehr interessante Zeichnung verfertiget hatte, ohne das mindeste von dem Meinen hinzuzutun. Das bestärkte mich in meinem Vorsatze, mich künftig allein an die Natur zu halten. Sie allein ist unendlich reich, und sie allein bildet den großen Künstler. Man kann zum Vorteile der Regeln viel sagen, ungefähr was man zum Lobe der bürgerlichen Gesellschaft sagen kann. Ein Mensch, der sich nach ihnen bildet, wird nie etwas Abgeschmacktes und Schlechtes hervorbringen, wie einer, der sich durch Gesetze und Wohlstand modeln läßt, nie ein unerträglicher Nachbar, nie ein merkwürdiger Bösewicht werden kann; dagegen wird aber auch alle Regel, man rede was man wolle, das wahre Gefühl von Natur und den wahren Ausdruck derselben zerstören! Sag' du: ›das ist zu hart! Sie schränkt nur ein, beschneidet die geilen Reben‹ etc. – guter Freund, soll ich dir ein Gleichnis geben? Es ist damit wie mit der Liebe. Ein junges Herz hängt ganz an einem Mädchen, bringt alle Stunden seines Tages bei ihr zu, verschwendet alle seine Kräfte, all sein Vermögen, um ihr jeden Augenblick auszudrücken, daß er sich ganz ihr hingibt. Und da käme ein Philister, ein Mann, der in einem öffentlichen Amte steht, und sagte zu ihm: ›feiner junger Herr! Lieben ist menschlich, nur müßt Ihr menschlich lieben! Teilet Eure Stunden ein, die einen zur Arbeit, und die Erholungsstunden widmet Eurem Mädchen. Berechnet Euer Vermögen, und was Euch von Eurer Notdurft übrig bleibt, davon verwehr' ich Euch nicht, ihr ein Geschenk, nur nicht zu oft, zu machen, etwa zu ihrem Geburts- und Namenstage etc. – folgt der Mensch, so gibt's einen brauchbaren jungen Menschen, und ich will selbst jedem Fürsten raten, ihn in ein Kollegium zu setzen; nur mit seiner Liebe ist's am Ende und, wenn er ein Künstler ist, mit seiner Kunst. O meine Freunde! Warum der Strom des Genies so selten ausbricht, so selten in hohen Fluten hereinbraust und eure staunende Seele erschüttert? – liebe Freunde, da wohnen die gelassenen Herren auf beiden Seiten des Ufers, denen ihre Gartenhäuschen, Tulpenbeete und Krautfelder zugrunde gehen würden, die daher in Zeiten mit Dämmen und Ableiten der künftig drohenden Gefahr abzuwehren wissen.‹
Am 27. Mai
Ich bin, wie ich sehe, in Verzückung, Gleichnisse und Deklamation verfallen und habe darüber vergessen, dir auszuerzählen, was mit den Kindern weiter geworden ist. Ich saß, ganz in malerische Empfindung vertieft, die dir mein gestriges Blatt sehr zerstückt darlegt, auf meinem Pfluge wohl zwei Stunden. Da kommt gegen Abend eine junge Frau auf die Kinder los, die sich indes nicht gerührt hatten, mit einem Körbchen am Arm und ruft von weitem: »Philipps, du bist recht brav«. – Sie grüßte mich, ich dankte ihr, stand auf, trat näher hin und fragte sie, ob sie Mutter von den Kindern wäre? Sie bejahte es, und indem sie dem ältesten einen halben Weck gab, nahm sie das kleine auf und küßte es mit aller mütterlichen Liebe. – »ich habe«, sagte sie, »meinem Philipps das Kleine zu halten gegeben und bin mit meinem Ältesten in die Stadt gegangen, um weiß Brot zu holen und Zucker und ein irden Breipfännchen«. – Ich sah das alles in dem Korbe, dessen Deckel abgefallen war. – »Ich will meinem Hans (das war der Name des Jüngsten) ein Süppchen kochen zum Abende; der lose Vogel, der Große, hat mir gestern das Pfännchen zerbrochen, als er sich mit Philippsen um die Scharre des Breis zankte«. – ich fragte nach dem Ältesten, und sie hatte mir kaum gesagt, daß er sich auf der Wiese mit ein paar Gänsen herumjage, als er gesprungen kam und dem Zweiten eine Haselgerte mitbrachte. Ich unterhielt mich weiter mit dem Weibe und erfuhr, daß sie des Schulmeisters Tochter sei, und daß ihr Mann eine Reise in die Schweiz gemacht habe, um die Erbschaft eines Vetters zu holen. – »Sie haben ihn drum betriegen wollen«, sagte sie,« und ihm auf seine Briefe nicht geantwortet; da ist er selbst hineingegangen. Wenn ihm nur kein Unglück widerfahren ist, ich höre nichts von ihm«. – Es ward mir schwer, mich von dem Weibe los zu machen, gab jedem der Kinder einen Kreuzer, und auch fürs jüngste gab ich ihr einen, ihm einen Weck zur Suppe mitzubringen, wenn sie in die Stadt ginge, und so schieden wir von einander.
Ich sage dir, mein Schatz, wenn meine Sinne gar nicht mehr halten wollen, so lindert all den Tumult der Anblick eines solchen Geschöpfs, das in glücklicher Gelassenheit den engen Kreis seines Daseins hingeht, von einem Tage zum andern sich durchhilft, die Blätter abfallen sieht und nichts dabei denkt, als daß der Winter kommt.
Seit der Zeit bin ich oft draußen. Die Kinder sind ganz an mich gewöhnt, sie kriegen Zucker, wenn ich Kaffee trinke, und teilen das Butterbrot und die saure Milch mit mir des Abends. Sonntags fehlt ihnen der Kreuzer nie, und wenn ich nicht nach der Betstunde da bin, so hat die Wirtin Ordre, ihn auszuzahlen.
Sie sind vertraut, erzählen mir allerhand, und besonders ergetze ich mich an ihren Leidenschaften und simpeln Ausbrüchen des Begehrens, wenn mehr Kinder aus dem Dorfe sich versammeln.
Viele Mühe hat mich's gekostet, der Mutter ihre Besorgnis zu nehmen, sie möchten den Herrn inkommodieren.
Am 30. Mai
Was ich dir neulich von der Malerei sagte, gilt gewiß auch von der Dichtkunst; es ist nur, daß man das Vortreffliche erkenne und es auszusprechen wage, und das ist freilich mit wenigem viel gesagt. Ich habe heute eine Szene gehabt, die, rein abgeschrieben, die schönste Idylle von der Welt gäbe; doch was soll Dichtung, Szene und Idylle? Muß es denn immer gebosselt sein, wenn wir teil an einer Naturerscheinung nehmen sollen?
Wenn du auf diesen Eingang viel Hohes und Vornehmes erwartest, so bist du wieder übel betrogen; es ist nichts als ein Bauerbursch, der mich zu dieser lebhaften Teilnehmung hingerissen hat. Ich werde, wie gewöhnlich, schlecht erzählen, und du wirst mich, wie gewöhnlich, denk' ich, übertrieben finden; es ist wieder Wahlheim, und immer Wahlheim, das diese Seltenheiten hervorbringt.
Es war eine Gesellschaft draußen unter den Linden, Kaffee zu trinken. Weil sie mir nicht ganz anstand, so blieb ich unter einem Vorwande zurück.
Ein Bauerbursch kam aus einem benachbarten Hause und beschäftigte sich, an dem Pfluge, den ich neulich gezeichnet hatte, etwas zurecht zu machen. Da mir sein Wesen gefiel, redete ich ihn an, fragte nach seinen Umständen, wir waren bald bekannt und, wie mir's gewöhnlich mit dieser Art Leuten geht, bald vertraut. Er erzählte mir, daß er bei einer Witwe in Diensten sei und von ihr gar wohl gehalten werde. Er sprach so vieles von ihr und lobte sie dergestalt, daß ich bald merken konnte, er sei ihr mit Leib und Seele zugetan. Sie sei nicht mehr jung, sagte er, sie sei von ihrem ersten Mann übel gehalten worden, wolle nicht mehr heiraten, und aus seiner Erzählung leuchtete so merklich hervor, wie schön, wie reizend sie für ihn sei, wie sehr er wünschte, daß sie ihn wählen möchte, um das Andenken der Fehler ihres ersten Mannes auszulöschen, daß ich Wort für Wort wiederholen müßte, um dir die reine Neigung, die Liebe und Treue dieses Menschen anschaulich zu machen. Ja, ich müßte die Gabe des größten Dichters besitzen, um dir zugleich den Ausdruck seiner Gebärden, die Harmonie seiner Stimme, das heimliche Feuer seiner Blicke lebendig darstellen zu können. Nein, es sprechen keine Worte die Zartheit aus, die in seinem ganzen Wesen und Ausdruck war; es ist alles nur plump, was ich wieder vorbringen könnte. Besonders rührte mich, wie er fürchtete, ich möchte über sein Verhältnis zu ihr ungleich denken und an ihrer guten Aufführung zweifeln. Wie reizend es war, wenn er von ihrer Gestalt, von ihrem Körper sprach, der ihn ohne jugendliche Reize gewaltsam an sich zog und fesselte, kann ich mir nur in meiner innersten Seele wiederholen. Ich hab' in meinem Leben die dringende Begierde und das heiße, sehnliche Verlangen nicht in dieser Reinheit gesehen, ja wohl kann ich sagen, in dieser Reinheit nicht gedacht und geträumt. Schelte mich nicht, wenn ich dir sage, daß bei der Erinnerung dieser Unschuld und Wahrheit mir die innerste Seele glüht, und daß mich das Bild dieser Treue und Zärtlichkeit überall verfolgt, und daß ich, wie selbst davon entzündet, lechze und schmachte.
Ich will nun suchen, auch sie ehstens zu sehn, oder vielmehr, wenn ich's recht bedenke, ich will's vermeiden. Es ist besser, ich sehe sie durch die Augen ihres Liebhabers; vielleicht erscheint sie mir vor meinen eigenen Augen nicht so, wie sie jetzt vor mir steht, und warum soll ich mir das schöne Bild verderben?
Am 16. Junius
Warum ich dir nicht schreibe? – Fragst du das und bist doch auch der Gelehrten einer. Du solltest raten, daß ich mich wohl befinde, und zwar – kurz und gut, ich habe eine Bekanntschaft gemacht, die mein Herz näher angeht. Ich habe – ich weiß nicht.
Dir in der Ordnung zu erzählen, wie's zugegangen ist, daß ich eins der liebenswürdigsten Geschöpfe habe kennen lernen, wird schwer halten. Ich bin vergnügt und glücklich, und also kein guter Historienschreiber.
Einen Engel! – Pfui! Das sagt jeder von der Seinigen, nicht wahr? Und doch bin ich nicht imstande, dir zu sagen, wie sie vollkommen ist, warum sie vollkommen ist; genug, sie hat allen meinen Sinn gefangengenommen.
So viel Einfalt bei so viel Verstand, so viel Güte bei so viel Festigkeit, und die Ruhe der Seele bei dem wahren Leben und der Tätigkeit.
– Das ist alles garstiges Gewäsch, was ich da von ihr sage, leidige Abstraktionen, die nicht einen Zug ihres Selbst ausdrücken. Ein andermal – nein, nicht ein andermal, jetzt gleich will ich dir's erzählen. Tu' ich's jetzt nicht, so geschäh' es niemals. Denn, unter uns, seit ich angefangen habe zu schreiben, war ich schon dreimal im Begriffe, die Feder niederzulegen, mein Pferd satteln zu lassen und hinauszureiten. Und doch schwur ich mir heute früh, nicht hinauszureiten, und gehe doch alle Augenblick' ans Fenster, zu sehen, wie hoch die Sonne noch steht.
– Ich hab's nicht überwinden können, ich mußte zu ihr hinaus. Da bin ich wieder, Wilhelm, will mein Butterbrot zu Nacht essen und dir schreiben. Welch eine Wonne das für meine Seele ist, sie in dem Kreise der lieben, muntern Kinder, ihrer acht Geschwister, zu sehen!
– Wenn ich so fortfahre, wirst du am Ende so klug sein wie am Anfange. Höre denn, ich will mich zwingen, ins Detail zu gehen.
Ich schrieb dir neulich, wie ich den Amtmann S. habe kennen lernen, und wie er mich gebeten habe, ihn bald in seiner Einsiedelei oder vielmehr seinem kleinen Königreiche zu besuchen. Ich vernachlässigte das, und wäre vielleicht nie hingekommen, hätte mir der Zufall nicht den Schatz entdeckt, der in der stillen Gegend verborgen liegt.
Unsere jungen Leute hatten einen Ball auf dem Lande angestellt, zu dem ich mich denn auch willig finden ließ. Ich bot einem hiesigen guten, schönen, übrigens unbedeutenden Mädchen die Hand, und es wurde ausgemacht, daß ich eine Kutsche nehmen, mit meiner Tänzerin und ihrer Base nach dem Orte der Lustbarkeit hinausfahren und auf dem Wege Charlotten S. mitnehmen sollte. – »Sie werden ein schönes Frauenzimmer kennenlernen«, sagte meine Gesellschafterin, da wir durch den weiten, ausgehauenen Wald nach dem Jagdhause fuhren. – »Nehmen Sie sich in acht«, versetzte die Base, »daß Sie sich nicht verlieben!« – »Wieso?« sagte ich. – »Sie ist schon vergeben«, antwortete jene, »an einen sehr braven Mann, der weggereist ist, seine Sachen in Ordnung zu bringen, weil sein Vater gestorben ist, und sich um eine ansehnliche Versorgung zu bewerben«. – Die Nachricht war mir ziemlich gleichgültig.
Die Sonne war noch eine Viertelstunde vom Gebirge, als wir vor dem Hoftore anfuhren. Es war sehr schwül, und die Frauenzimmer äußerten ihre Besorgnis wegen eines Gewitters, das sich in weißgrauen, dumpfichten Wölkchen rings am Horizonte zusammenzuziehen schien. Ich täuschte ihre Furcht mit anmaßlicher Wetterkunde, ob mir gleich selbst zu ahnen anfing, unsere Lustbarkeit werde einen Stoß leiden.
Ich war ausgestiegen, und eine Magd, die ans Tor kam, bat uns, einen Augenblick zu verziehen, Mamsell Lottchen würde gleich kommen. Ich ging durch den Hof nach dem wohlgebauten Hause, und da ich die vorliegenden Treppen hinaufgestiegen war und in die Tür trat, fiel mir das reizendste Schauspiel in die Augen, das ich je gesehen habe. in dem Vorsaale wimmelten sechs Kinder von eilf zu zwei Jahren um ein Mädchen von schöner Gestalt, mittlerer Größe, die ein simples weißes Kleid, mit blaßroten Schleifen an Arm und Brust, anhatte. Sie hielt ein schwarzes Brot und schnitt ihren Kleinen rings herum jedem sein Stück nach Proportion ihres Alters und Appetits ab, gab's jedem mit solcher Freundlichkeit, und jedes rief so ungekünstelt sein »danke!«, indem es mit den kleinen Händchen lange in die Höhe gereicht hatte, ehe es noch abgeschnitten war, und nun mit seinem Abendbrote vergnügt entweder wegsprang, oder nach seinem stillern Charakter gelassen davonging nach dem Hoftore zu, um die Fremden und die Kutsche zu sehen, darin ihre Lotte wegfahren sollte. – »Ich bitte um Vergebung«, sagte sie, »daß ich Sie hereinbemühe und die Frauenzimmer warten lasse. Über dem Anziehen und allerlei Bestellungen fürs Haus in meiner Abwesenheit habe ich vergessen, meinen Kindern ihr Vesperbrot zu geben, und sie wollen von niemanden Brot geschnitten haben als von mir«.
Ich machte ihr ein unbedeutendes Kompliment, meine ganze Seele ruhte auf der Gestalt, dem Tone, dem Betragen, und ich hatte eben Zeit, mich von der Überraschung zu erholen, als sie in die Stube lief, ihre Handschuhe und den Fächer zu holen. Die Kleinen sahen mich in einiger Entfernung so von der Seite an, und ich ging auf das jüngste los, das ein Kind von der glücklichsten Gesichtsbildung war. Es zog sich zurück, als eben Lotte zur Türe herauskam und sagte: »Louis, gib dem Herrn Vetter eine Hand«. – das tat der Knabe sehr freimütig, und ich konnte mich nicht enthalten, ihn, ungeachtet seines kleinen Rotznäschens, herzlich zu küssen.
»Vetter?« sagte ich, indem ich ihr die Hand reichte, »glauben Sie, daß ich des Glücks wert sei, mit Ihnen verwandt zu sein?« – »O«, sagte sie mit einem leichtfertigen Lächeln, »unsere Vetterschaft ist sehr weitläufig, und es wäre mir leid, wenn Sie der schlimmste drunter sein sollten.« – Im Gehen gab sie Sophien, der ältesten Schwester nach ihr, einem Mädchen von ungefähr eilf Jahren, den Auftrag, wohl auf die Kinder acht zu haben und den Papa zu grüßen, wenn er vom Spazierritte nach Hause käme. Den Kleinen sagte sie, sie sollten ihrer Schwester Sophie folgen, als wenn sie's selber wäre, das denn auch einige ausdrücklich versprachen. Eine kleine, naseweise Blondine aber, von ungefähr sechs Jahren, sagte: »du bist's doch nicht, Lottchen, wir haben dich doch lieber«. – die zwei ältesten Knaben waren hinten auf die Kutsche geklettert, und auf mein Vorbitten erlaubte sie ihnen, bis vor den Wald mitzufahren, wenn sie versprächen, sich nicht zu necken und sich recht festzuhalten.
Wir hatten uns kaum zurecht gesetzt, die Frauenzimmer sich bewillkommt, wechselsweise über den Anzug, vorzüglich über die Hüte ihre Anmerkungen gemacht und die Gesellschaft, die man erwartete, gehörig durchgezogen, als Lotte den Kutscher halten und ihre Brüder herabsteigen ließ, die noch einmal ihre Hand zu küssen begehrten, das denn der älteste mit aller Zärtlichkeit, die dem Alter von fünfzehn Jahren eigen sein kann, der andere mit viel Heftigkeit und Leichtsinn tat. Sie ließ die Kleinen noch einmal grüßen, und wir fuhren weiter.
Die Base fragte, ob sie mit dem Buche fertig wäre, das sie ihr neulich geschickt hätte. – »nein«, sagte Lotte,« es gefällt mir nicht, Sie können's wiederhaben. Das vorige war auch nicht besser«. – Ich erstaunte, als ich fragte, was es für Bücher wären, und sie mir antwortete: [Fußnote] – ich fand so viel Charakter in allem, was sie sagte, ich sah mit jedem Wort neue Reize, neue Strahlen des Geistes aus ihren Gesichtszügen hervorbrechen, die sich nach und nach vergnügt zu entfalten schienen, weil sie an mir fühlte, daß ich sie verstand.
»Wie ich jünger war«, sagte sie, »liebte ich nichts so sehr als Romane. Weiß Gott, wie wohl mir's war, wenn ich mich Sonntags in so ein Eckchen setzen und mit ganzem Herzen an dem Glück und Unstern einer Miß Jonny teilnehmen konnte. Ich leugne auch nicht, daß die Art noch einige Reize für mich hat. Doch da ich so selten an ein Buch komme, so muß es auch recht nach meinem Geschmack sein. Und der Autor ist mir der liebste, in dem ich meine Welt wiederfinde, bei dem es zugeht wie um mich, und dessen Geschichte mir doch so interessant und herzlich wird als mein eigen häuslich Leben, das freilich kein Paradies, aber doch im ganzen eine Quelle umsäglicher Glückseligkeit ist«.
Ich bemühte mich, meine Bewegungen über diese Worte zu verbergen. Das ging freilich nicht weit: denn da ich sie mit solcher Wahrheit im Vorbeigehen vom Landpriester von Wakefield, vom – [Fußnote] reden hörte, kam ich ganz außer mich, sagte ihr alles, was ich mußte, und bemerkte erst nach einiger Zeit, da Lotte das Gespräch an die anderen wendete, daß diese die Zeit über mit offenen Augen, als säßen sie nicht da, dagesessen hatten. Die Base sah mich mehr als einmal mit einem spöttischen Näschen an, daran mir aber nichts gelegen war.
Das Gespräch fiel aufs Vergnügen am Tanze. – »wenn diese Leidenschaft ein Fehler ist,« sagte Lotte, »so gestehe ich Ihnen gern, ich weiß mir nichts übers Tanzen. Und wenn ich was im Kopfe habe und mir auf meinem verstimmten Klavier einen Contretanz vortrommle, so ist alles wieder gut«.
Wie ich mich unter dem Gespäche in den schwarzen Augen weidete – wie die lebendigen Lippen und die frischen, muntern Wangen meine ganze Seele anzogen – wie ich, in den herrlichen Sinn ihrer Rede ganz versunken, oft gar die Worte nicht hörte, mit denen sie sich ausdrückte – davon hast du eine Vorstellung, weil du mich kennst. Kurz, ich stieg aus dem Wagen wie ein Träumender, als wir vor dem Lusthause stille hielten, und war so in Träumen rings in der dämmernden Welt verloren, daß ich auf die Musik kaum achtete, die uns von dem erleuchteten Saal herunter entgegenschallte.
Die zwei Herren Audran und ein gewisser N. N. – wer behält alle die Namen –, die der Base und Lottens Tänzer waren, empfingen uns am Schlage, bemächtigten sich ihrer Frauenzimmer, und ich führte das meinige hinauf.
Wir schlangen uns in Menuetts um einander herum; ich forderte ein Frauenzimmer nach dem andern auf, und just die unleidlichsten konnten nicht dazu kommen, einem die Hand zu reichen und ein Ende zu machen. Lotte und ihr Tänzer fingen einen Englischen an, und wie wohl mir's war, als sie auch in der Reihe die Figur mit uns anfing, magst du fühlen. Tanzen muß man sie sehen! Siehst du, sie ist so mit ganzem Herzen und mit ganzer Seele dabei, ihr ganzer Körper eine Harmonie, so sorglos, so unbefangen, als wenn das eigentlich alles wäre, als wenn sie sonst nichts dächte, nichts empfände; und in dem Augenblicke gewiß schwindet alles andere vor ihr.
Ich bat sie um den zweiten Contretanz; sie sagte mit den dritten zu, und mit der liebenswürdigsten Freimütigkeit von der Welt versicherte sie mir, daß sie herzlich gern deutsch tanze. – »Es ist hier so Mode, »fuhr sie fort, »daß jedes Paar, das zusammen gehört, beim Deutschen zusammenbleibt, und mein Chapeau walzt schlecht und dankt mir's, wenn ich ihm die Arbeit erlasse. Ihr Frauenzimmer kann's auch nicht und mag nicht, und ich habe im Englischen gesehen, daß Sie gut walzen; wenn Sie nun mein sein wollen fürs Deutsche, so gehen Sie und bitten sich's von meinem Herrn aus, und ich will zu Ihrer Dame gehen«. – ich gab ihr die Hand darauf, und wir machten aus, daß ihr Tänzer inzwischen meine Tänzerin unterhalten sollte.
Nun ging's an, und wir ergetzten uns eine Weile an manigfaltigen Schlingungen der Arme. Mit welchem Reize, mit welcher Flüchtigkeit bewegte sie sich! Und da wir nun gar ans Walzen kamen und wie die Sphären um einander herumrollten, ging's freilich anfangs, weil's die wenigsten können, ein bißchen bunt durcheinander. Wir waren klug und ließen sie austoben, und als die Ungeschicktesten den Plan geräumt hatten, fielen wir ein und hielten mit noch einem Paare, mit Audran und seiner Tänzerin, wacker aus. Nie ist mir's so leicht vom Flecke gegangen. Ich war kein Mensch mehr. Das liebenswürdigste Geschöpf in den Armen zu haben und mit ihr herumzufliegen wie Wetter, daß alles rings umher verging, und – Wilhelm, um ehrlich zu sein, tat ich aber doch den Schwur, daß ein Mädchen, das ich liebte, auf das ich Ansprüche hätte, mir nie mit einem andern walzen sollte als mit mir, und wenn ich drüber zugrunde gehen müßte. Du verstehst mich!
Wir machten einige Touren gehend im Saale, um zu verschnaufen. Dann setzte sie sich, und die Orangen, die ich beiseite gebracht hatte, die nun die einzigen noch übrigen waren, taten vortreffliche Wirkung, nur daß mir mit jedem Schnittchen, das sie einer unbescheidenen Nachbarin ehrenhalben zuteilte, ein Stich durchs Herz ging.
Beim dritten englischen Tanz waren wir das zweite Paar. Wie wir die Reihe durchtanzten und ich, weiß Gott mit wieviel Wonne, an ihrem Arm und Auge hing, das voll vom wahrsten Ausdruck des offensten, reinsten Vergnügens war, kommen wir an eine Frau, die mit wegen ihrer liebenswürdigen Miene auf einem nicht mehr ganz jungen Gesichte merkwürdig gewesen war. Sie sieht Lotten lächelnd an, hebt einen drohenden Finger auf und nennt den Namen Albert zweimal im Vorbeifliegen mit viel Bedeutung.
»Wer ist Albert?« sagte ich zu Lotten, »wenn's nicht Vermessenheit ist zu fragen«. – Sie war im Begriff zu antworten, als wir uns scheiden mußten, um die große Achte zu machen, und mich dünkte einiges Nachdenken auf ihrer Stirn zu sehen, als wir so vor einander vorbeikreuzten. – »Was soll ich's Ihnen leugnen,« sagte sie, indem sie mir die Hand zur Promenade bot. »Albert ist ein braver Mensch, dem ich so gut als verlobt bin«. – nun war mir das nichts Neues (denn die Mädchen hatten mir's auf dem Wege gesagt) und war mir doch so ganz neu, weil ich es noch nicht im Verhältnis auf sie, die mir in so wenig Augenblicken so wert geworden war, gedacht hatte. Genug, ich verwirrte mich, vergaß mich und kam zwischen das unrechte Paar hinein, daß alles drunter und drüber ging und Lottens ganze Gegenwart und Zerren und Ziehen nötig war, um es schnell wieder in Ordnung zu bringen.
Der Tanz war noch nicht zu Ende, als die Blitze, die wir schon lange am Horizonte leuchten gesehn und die ich immer für Wetterkühlen ausgegeben hatte, viel stärker zu werden anfingen und der Donner die Musik überstimmte. Drei Frauenzimmer liefen aus der Reihe, denen ihre Herren folgten; die Unordnung wurde allgemein, und die Musik hörte auf. Es ist natürlich, wenn uns ein Unglück oder etwas Schreckliches im Vergnügen überrascht, daß es stärkere Eindrücke auf uns macht als sonst, teils wegen des Gegensatzes, der sich so lebhaft empfinden läßt, teils und noch mehr, weil unsere Sinne einmal der Fühlbarkeit geöffnet sind und also desto schneller einen Eindruck annehmen. Diesen Ursachen muß ich die wunderbaren Grimassen zuschreiben, in die ich mehrere Frauenzimmer ausbrechen sah. Die klügste setzte sich in eine Ecke, mit dem Rücken gegen vor ihr nieder und verbarg den Kopf in der ersten Schoß. Eine dritte schob sich zwischen beide hinein und umfaßte ihre Schwesterchen mit tausend Tränen. Einige wollten nach Hause; andere, die noch weniger wußten, was sie taten, hatten nicht so viel Besinnungskraft, den Keckheiten unserer jungen Schlucker zu steuern, die sehr beschäftigt zu sein schienen, alle die ängstlichen Gebete, die dem Himmel bestimmt waren, von den Lippen der schönen Bedrängten wegzufangen. Einige unserer Herren hatten sich hinabbegeben, um ein Pfeifchen in Ruhe zu rauchen; und die übrige Gesellschaft schlug es nicht aus, als die Wirtin auf den klugen Einfall kam, uns ein Zimmer anzuweisen, das Läden und Vorhänge hätte. Kaum waren wir da angelangt, als Lotte beschäftigt war, einen Kreis von Stühlen zu stellen und, als sich die Gesellschaft auf ihre Bitte gesetzt hatte, den Vortrag zu einem Spiele zu tun.
Ich sah manchen, der in Hoffnung auf ein saftiges Pfand sein Mäulchen spitzte und seine Glieder reckte. – »Wir spielen Zählens!« sagte sie«. Nun gebt acht! Ich geh' im Kreise herum von der Rechten zur Linken, und so zählt ihr auch rings herum, jeder die Zahl, die an ihn kommt, und das muß gehen wie ein Lauffeuer, und wer stockt oder sich irrt, kriegt eine Ohrfeige, und so bis tausend«. – nun war das lustig anzusehen: sie ging mit ausgestrecktem Arm im Kreise herum. »Eins«, fing der erste an, der Nachbar »zwei«, »drei« der folgende, und so fort. Dann fing sie an, geschwinder zu gehen, immer geschwinder; da versah's einer: Patsch! Eine Ohrfeige, und über das Gelächter der folgende auch: Patsch! Und immer geschwinder. Ich selbst kriegte zwei Maulschellen und glaubte mit innigem Vergnügen zu bemerken, daß sie stärker seien, als sie den übrigen zuzumessen pflegte. Ein allgemeines Gelächter und Geschwärm endigte das Spiel, ehe noch das Tausend ausgezählt war. Die Vertrautesten zogen einander beiseite, das Gewitter war vorüber, und ich folgte Lotten in den Saal. Unterwegs sagte sie: »über die Ohrfeigen haben sie Wetter und alles vergessen!« – ich konnte ihr nichts antworten. – »ich war«, fuhr sie fort, »eine der Furchtsamsten, und indem ich mich herzhaft stellte, um den andern Mut zu geben, bin ich mutig geworden«. – Wir traten ans Fenster. Es donnerte abseitwärts, und der herrliche Regen säuselte auf das Land, und der erquickendste Wohlgeruch stieg in aller Fülle einer warmen Luft zu uns auf. Sie stand auf ihren Ellenbogen gestützt, ihr Blick durchdrang die Gegend; sie sah gen Himmel und auf mich, ich sah ihr Auge tränenvoll, sie legte ihre Hand auf die meinige und sagte: »Klopstock!« – Ich erinnerte mich sogleich der herrlichen Ode, die ihr in Gedanken lag, und versank in dem Strome von Empfindungen, den sie in dieser Losung über mich ausgoß. Ich ertrug's nicht, neigte mich auf ihre Hand und küßte sie unter den wonnevollsten Tränen. Und sah nach ihrem Auge wieder – Edler! Hättest du deine Vergötterung in diesem Blicke gesehen, und möcht' ich nun deinen so oft entweihten Namen nie wieder nennen hören!
Am 19. Junius
Wo ich neulich mit meiner Erzählung geblieben bin, weiß ich nicht mehr; das weiß ich, daß es zwei Uhr des Nachts war, als ich zu Bette kam, und daß, wenn ich dir hätte vorschwatzen können, statt zu schreiben, ich dich vielleicht bis an den Morgen aufgehalten hätte.
Was auf unserer Hereinfahrt vom Balle geschehen ist, habe ich noch nicht erzählt, habe auch heute keinen Tag dazu.
Es war der herrlichste Sonnenaufgang. Der tröpfelnde Wald und das erfrischte Feld umher! Unsere Gesellschafterinnen nickten ein. Sie fragte mich, ob ich nicht auch von der Partie sein wollte; ihretwegen sollt' ich unbekümmert sein. – »So lange ich diese Augen offen sehe«, sagte ich und sah sie fest an,« so lange hat's keine Gefahr«. – Und wir haben beide ausgehalten bis an ihr Tor, da ihr die Magd leise aufmachte und auf ihr Fragen versicherte, daß Vater und Kleine wohl seien und alle noch schliefen. Da verließ ich sie mit der Bitte, sie selbigen Tags noch sehen zu dürfen; sie gestand mir's zu, und ich bin gekommen – und seit der Zeit können Sonne, Mond und Sterne geruhig ihre Wirtschaft treiben, ich weiß weder daß Tag noch daß Nacht ist, und die ganze Welt verliert sich um mich her.
Am 21. Junius
Ich lebe so glückliche Tage, wie sie Gott seinen Heiligen ausspart; und mit mir mag werden was will, so darf ich nicht sagen, daß ich die Freuden, die reinsten Freuden des Lebens nicht genossen habe. – du kennst mein Wahlheim; dort bin ich völlig etabliert, von da habe ich nur eine halbe Stunde zu Lotten, dort fühl' ich mich selbst und alles Glück, das dem Menschen gegeben ist.
Hätt' ich gedacht, als ich mir Wahlheim zum Zwecke meiner Spaziergänge wählte, daß es so nahe am Himmel läge! Wie oft habe ich das Jagdhaus, das nun alle meine Wünsche einschließt, auf meinen weiten Wanderungen, bald vom Berge, bald von der Ebne über den Fluß gesehn!
Lieber Wilhelm, ich habe allerlei nachgedacht, über die Begier im Menschen, sich auszubreiten, neue Entdeckungen zu machen, herumzuschweifen; und dann wieder über den inneren Trieb, sich der Einschränkung willig zu ergeben, in dem Gleise der Gewohnheit so hinzufahren und sich weder um Rechts noch um Links zu bekümmern.
Es ist wunderbar: wie ich hierher kam und vom Hügel in das schöne Tal schaute, wie es mich rings umher anzog. – dort das Wäldchen! – ach könntest du dich in seine Schatten mischen! – dort die Spitze des Berges! – ach könntest du von da die weite Gegend überschauen! – die in einander geketteten Hügel und vertraulichen Täler! – o könnte ich mich in ihnen verlieren! – ich eilte hin, und kehrte zurück, und hatte nicht gefunden, was ich hoffte. O es ist mit der Ferne wie mit der Zukunft! Ein großes dämmerndes Ganze ruht vor unserer Seele, unsere Empfindung verschwimmt darin wie unser Auge, und wir sehnen uns, ach! Unser ganzes Wesen hinzugeben, uns mit aller Wonne eines einzigen, großen, herrlichen Gefühls ausfüllen zu lassen. – und ach! Wenn wir hinzueilen, wenn das Dort nun Hier wird, ist alles vor wie nach, und wir stehen in unserer Armut, in unserer Eingeschränktheit, und unsere Seele lechzt nach entschlüpftem Labsale.
So sehnt sich der unruhigste Vagabund zuletzt wieder nach seinem Vaterlande und findet in seiner Hütte, an der Brust seiner Gattin, in dem Kreise seiner Kinder, in den Geschäften zu ihrer Erhaltung die Wonne, die er in der weiten Welt vergebens suchte.
Wenn ich des Morgens mit Sonnenaufgange hinausgehe nach meinem Wahlheim und dort im Wirtsgarten mir meine Zuckererbsen selbst pflücke, mich hinsetze, sie abfädne und dazwischen in meinem Homer lese; wenn ich in der kleinen Küche mir einen Topf wähle, mir Butter aussteche, Schoten ans Feuer stelle, zudecke und mich dazusetze, sie manchmal umzuschütteln: da fühl' ich so lebhaft, wie die übermütigen Freier der Penelope Ochsen und Schweine schlachten, zerlegen und braten. Es ist nichts, das mich so mit einer stillen, wahren Empfindung ausfüllte als die Züge patriarchalischen Lebens, die ich, Gott sei Dank, ohne Affektation in meine Lebensart verweben kann.
Wie wohl ist mir's, daß mein Herz die simple, harmlose Wonne des Menschen fühlen kann, der ein Krauthaupt auf seinen Tisch bringt, das er selbst gezogen, und nun nicht den Kohl allein, sondern all die guten Tage, den schönen Morgen, da er ihn pflanzte, die lieblichen Abende, da er ihn begoß, und da er an dem fortschreitenden Wachstum seine Freude hatte, alle in einem Augenblicke wieder mitgenießt.
Am 29. Junius
Vorgestern kam der Medikus hier aus der Stadt hinaus zum Amtmann und fand mich auf der Erde unter Lottens Kindern, wie einige auf mir herumkrabbelten, andere mich neckten, und wie ich sie kitzelte und ein großes Geschrei mit ihnen erregte. Der Doktor, der eine sehr dogmatische Drahtpuppe ist, unterm Reden seine Manschetten in Falten legt und einen Kräusel ohne Ende herauszupft, fand dieses unter der Würde eines gescheiten Menschen; das merkte ich an seiner Nase. Ich ließ mich aber in nichts stören, ließ ihn sehr vernünftige Sachen abhandeln und baute den Kindern ihre Kartenhäuser wieder, die sie zerschlagen hatten. Auch ging er darauf in der Stadt herum und beklagte, des Amtmanns Kinder wären so schon ungezogen genug, der Werther verderbe sie nun völlig.
Ja, lieber Wilhelm, meinem Herzen sind die Kinder am nächsten auf der Erde. Wenn ich ihnen zusehe und in dem kleinen Dinge die Keime aller Tugenden, aller Kräfte sehe, die sie einmal so nötig brauchen werden; wenn ich in dem Eigensinne künftige Standhaftigkeit und Festigkeit des Charakters, in dem Mutwillen guten Humor und Leichtigkeit, über die Gefahren der Welt hinzuschlüpfen, erblicke, alles so unverdorben, so ganz! – immer, immer wiederhole ich dann die goldenen Worte des Lehrers der Menschen: »wenn ihr nicht werdet wie eines von diesen!« und nun, mein Bester, sie, die unseresgleichen sind, die wir als unsere Muster ansehen sollten, behandeln wir als Untertanen. Sie sollen keinen Willen haben! – haben wir denn keinen? Und wo liegt das Vorrecht? – weil wir älter sind und gescheiter! – guter Gott von deinem Himmel, alte Kinder siehst du und junge Kinder, und nichts weiter; und an welchen du mehr Freude hast, das hat dein Sohn schon lange verkündigt. Aber sie glauben an ihn und hören ihn nicht – das ist auch was Altes! – und bilden ihre Kinder nach sich und – Adieu, Wilhelm! Ich mag darüber nicht weiter radotieren.
Am 1. Julius
Was Lotte einem Kranken sein muß, fühl' ich an meinem eigenen Herzen, das übler dran ist als manches, das auf dem Siechbette verschmachtet. Sie wird einige Tage in der Stadt bei einer rechtschaffnen Frau zubringen, die sich nach der Aussage der Ärzte ihrem Ende naht und in diesen letzten Augenblicken Lotten um sich haben will. Ich war vorige Woche mir ihr, den Pfarrer von St. zu besuchen; ein Örtchen, das eine Stunde seitwärts im Gebirge liegt. Wir kamen gegen vier dahin. Lotte hatte ihre zweite Schwester mitgenommen. Als wir in den mit zwei hohen Nußbäumen überschatteten Pfarrhof traten, saß der gute alte Mann auf einer Bank vor der Haustür, und da er Lotten sah, ward er wie neu belebt, vergaß seinen Knotenstock und wagte sich auf, ihr entgegen. Sie lief hin zu ihm, nötigte ihn sich niederzulassen, indem sie sich zu ihm setzte, brachte viele Grüße von ihrem Vater, herzte seinen garstigen, schmutzigen jüngsten Buben, das Quakelchen seines Alters. Du hättest sie sehen sollen, wie sie den Alten beschäftigte, wie sie ihre Stimme erhob, um seinen halb tauben Ohren vernehmlich zu werden, wie sie ihm von jungen, robusten Leuten erzählte, die unvermutet gestorben wären, von der Vortrefflichkeit des Karlsbades, und wie sie seinen Entschluß lobte, künftigen Sommer hinzugehen, wie sie fand, daß er viel besser aussähe, viel munterer sei als das letztemal, da sie ihn gesehn. – ich hatte indes der Frau Pfarrerin meine Höflichkeiten gemacht. Der Alte wurde ganz munter, und da ich nicht umhin konnte, die schönen Nußbäume zu loben, die uns so lieblich beschatteten, fing er an, uns, wiewohl mit einiger Beschwerlichkeit, die Geschichte davon zu geben. – »den alten«, sagte er,« wissen wir nicht, wer den gepflanzt hat; einige sagen dieser, andere jener Pfarrer. Der jüngere aber dort hinten ist so alt als meine Frau, im Oktober funfzig Jahr. Ihr Vater pflanzte ihn des Morgens, als sie gegen Abend geboren wurde. Er war mein Vorfahr im Amt, und wie lieb ihm der Baum war, ist nicht zu sagen; mir ist er's gewiß nicht weniger. Meine Frau saß darunter auf einem Balken und strickte, da ich vor siebenundzwanzig Jahren als ein armer Student zum erstenmale hier in den Hof kam«. – Lotte fragte nach seiner Tochter; es hieß, sie sei mit Herrn Schmidt auf die Wiese hinaus zu den Arbeitern, und der Alte fuhr in seiner Erzählung fort: wie sein Vorfahr ihn liebgewonnen und die Tochter dazu, und wie er erst sein Vikar und dann sein Nachfolger geworden. Die Geschichte war nicht lange zu Ende, als die Jungfer Pfarrerin mit dem sogenannten Herrn Schmidt durch den Garten herkam: sie bewillkommte Lotten mit herzlicher Wärme, und ich muß sagen, sie gefiel mir nicht übel; eine rasche, wohlgewachsene Brünette, die einen die kurze Zeit über auf dem Lande wohl unterhalten hätte. Ihr Liebhaber (denn als solchen stellte sich Herr Schmidt gleich dar), ein feiner, doch stiller Mensch, der sich nicht in unsere Gespräche mischen wollte, ob ihn gleich Lotte immer hereinzog. Was mich am meisten betrübte, war, daß ich an seinen Gesichtszügen zu bemerken schien, es sei mehr Eigensinn und übler Humor als Eingeschränktheit des Verstandes, der ihn sich mitzuteilen hinderte. In der Folge ward dies leider nur zu deutlich; denn als Friederike beim Spazierengehen mit Lotten und gelegentlich auch mit mir ging, wurde des Herrn Angesicht, das ohnedies einer bräunlichen Farbe war, so sichtlich verdunkelt, daß es Zeit war, daß Lotte mich beim Ärmel zupfte und mir zu verstehn gab, daß ich mit Friederiken zu artig getan. Nun verdrießt mich nichts mehr, als wenn die Menschen einander plagen, am meisten, wenn junge Leute in der Blüte des Lebens, da sie am offensten für alle Freuden sein könnten, einander die paar guten Tage mit Fratzen verderben und nur erst zu spät das Unersetzliche ihrer Verschwendung einsehen. Mich wurmte das, und ich konnte nicht umhin, da wir gegen Abend in den Pfarrhof zurückkehrten und an einem Tische Milch aßen und das Gespräch auf Freude und Leid der Welt sich wendete, den Faden zu ergreifen und recht herzlich gegen die üble Laune zu reden. – »wir Menschen beklagen uns oft«, fing ich an, »daß der guten Tage so wenig sind und der schlimmen so viel, und, wie mich dünkt, meist mit Unrecht. Wenn wir immer ein offenes Herz hätten, das Gute zu genießen, das uns Gott für jeden Tag bereitet, wir würden alsdann auch Kraft genug haben, das Übel zu tragen, wenn es kommt«. – »Wir haben aber unser Gemüt nicht in unserer Gewalt«, versetzte die Pfarrerin, »wie viel hängt vom Körper ab! Wenn einem nicht wohl ist, ist's einem überall nicht recht«. – Ich gestand ihr das ein. – »Wir wollen es also«, fuhr ich fort,« als eine Krankheit ansehen und fragen, ob dafür kein Mittel ist?« – »Das läßt sich hören«, sagte Lotte, »ich glaube wenigstens, daß viel von uns abhängt. Ich weiß es an mir. Wenn mich etwas neckt und mich verdrießlich machen will, spring' ich auf und sing' ein paar Contretänze den Garten auf und ab, gleich ist's weg«. – »das war's, was ich sagen wollte,« versetzte ich, »es ist mit der üblen Laune völlig wie mit der Trägheit, denn es ist eine Art von Trägheit. Unsere Natur hängt sehr dahin, und doch, wenn wir nur einmal die Kraft haben, uns zu ermannen, geht uns die Arbeit frisch von der Hand, und wir finden in der Tätigkeit ein wahres Vergnügen«. – Friederike war sehr aufmerksam, und der junge Mensch wandte mir ein, daß man nicht Herr über sich selbst sei und am wenigsten über seine Empfindungen gebieten könne. – »es ist hier die Frage von einer unangenehmen Empfindung«, versetzte ich, »die doch jedermann gerne los ist; und niemand weiß, wie weit seine Kräfte gehen, bis er sie versucht hat. Gewiß, wer krank ist, wird bei allen Ärzten herumfragen, und die größten Resignationen, die bittersten Arzeneien wird er nicht abweisen, um seine gewünschte Gesundheit zu erhalten«. – ich bemerkte, daß der ehrliche Alte sein Gehör anstrengte, um an unserm Diskurse teilzunehmen, ich erhob die Stimme, indem ich die Rede gegen ihn wandte«. Man predigt gegen so viele Laster«, sagte ich, »ich habe noch nie gehört, daß man gegen die üble Laune vom Predigtstuhle [Fußnote] gearbeitet hätte. – »Das müßten die Stadtpfarrer tun«, sagte er, »die Bauern haben keinen bösen Humor; doch könnte es auch zuweilen nicht schaden, es wäre eine Lektion für seine Frau wenigstens und für den Herrn Amtmann«. – Die Gesellschaft lachte, und er herzlich mit, bis er in einen Husten verfiel, der unsern Diskurs eine Zeitlang unterbrach; darauf denn der junge Mensch wieder das Wort nahm: »Sie nannten den bösen Humor ein Laster; mich deucht, das ist übertrieben«. – »Mit nichten«, gab ich zur Antwort, »wenn das, womit man sich selbst und seinem Nächsten schadet, diesen Namen verdient. Ist es nicht genug, daß wir einander nicht glücklich machen können, müssen wir auch noch einander das Vergnügen rauben, das jedes Herz sich noch manchmal selbst gewähren kann? Und nennen Sie mir den Menschen, der übler Laune ist und so brav dabei, sie zu verbergen, sie allein zu tragen, ohne die Freude um sich her zu zerstören! Oder ist sie nicht vielmehr ein innerer Unmut über unsere eigene Unwürdigkeit, ein Mißfallen an uns selbst, das immer mit einem Neide verknüpft ist, der durch eine törichte Eitelkeit aufgehetzt wird? Wir sehen glückliche Menschen, die wir nicht glücklich machen, und das ist unerträglich«. – Lotte lächelte mich an, da sie die Bewegung sah, mit der ich redete, und eine Träne in Friederikens Auge spornte mich fortzufahren. – »Wehe denen«, sagte ich, »die sich der Gewalt bedienen, die sie über ein Herz haben, um ihm die einfachen Freuden zu rauben, die aus ihm selbst hervorkeimen. Alle Geschenke, alle Gefälligkeiten der Welt ersetzen nicht einen Augenblick Vergnügen an sich selbst, den uns eine neidische Unbehaglichkeit unsers Tyrannen vergällt hat«.
Mein ganzes Herz war voll in diesem Augenblicke; die Erinnerung so manches Vergangenen drängte sich an meine Seele, und die Tränen kamen mir in die Augen.
»Wer sich das nur täglich sagte«, rief ich aus,« du vermagst nichts auf deine Freunde, als ihnen ihre Freuden zu lassen und ihr Glück zu vermehren, indem du es mit ihnen genießest. Vermagst du, wenn ihre innere Seele von einer ängstigenden Leidenschaft gequält, vom Kummer zerrüttet ist, ihnen einen Tropfen Linderung zu geben?
Und wenn die letzte, bangste Krankheit dann über das Geschöpf herfällt, das du in blühenden Tagen untergraben hast, und sie nun daliegt in dem erbärmlichsten Ermatten, das Auge gefühllos gen Himmel sieht, der Todesschweiß auf der blassen Stirne abwechselt, und du vor dem Bette stehst wie ein Verdammter, in dem innigsten Gefühl, daß du nichts vermagst mit deinem ganzen Vermögen, und die Angst dich inwendig krampft, daß du alles hingeben möchtest, dem untergehenden Geschöpfe einen Tropfen Stärkung, einen Funken Mut einflößen zu können«.
Die Erinnerung einer solchen Szene, wobei ich gegenwärtig war, fiel mit ganzer Gewalt bei diesen Worten über mich. Ich nahm das Schnupftuch vor die Augen und verließ die Gesellschaft, und nur Lottens Stimme, die mir rief, wir wollten fort, brachte mich zu mir selbst. Und wie sie mich auf dem Wege schalt über den zu warmen Anteil an allem, und daß ich drüber zugrunde gehen würde! Daß ich mich schonen sollte! – O der Engel! Um deinetwillen muß ich leben!
Am 6. Julius
Sie ist immer um ihre sterbende Freundin, und ist immer dieselbe, immer das gegenwärtige, holde Geschöpf, das, wo sie hinsieht, Schmerzen lindert und Glückliche macht. Sie ging gestern abend mit Marianen und dem kleinen Malchen spazieren, ich wußte es und traf sie an, und wir gingen zusammen. Nach einem Wege von anderthalb Stunden kamen wir gegen die Stadt zurück, an den Brunnen, der mir so wert und nun tausendmal werter ist. Lotte setzte sich aufs Mäuerchen, wir standen vor ihr. Ich sah umher, ach, und die Zeit, da mein Herz so allein war, lebte wieder vor mir auf. – »Lieber Brunnen«, sagte ich, »seither hab' ich nicht mehr an deiner Kühle geruht, hab' in eilendem Vorübergehn dich manchmal nicht angesehn«. – Ich blickte hinab und sah, daß Malchen mit einem Glase Wasser sehr beschäftigt heraufstieg. – Ich sah Lotten an und fühlte alles, was ich an ihr habe. Indem kommt Malchen mit einem Glase. Mariane wollt' es ihr abnehmen: »nein!« rief das Kind mit dem süßesten Ausdrucke,« nein, Lottchen, du sollst zuerst trinken!« – ich ward über die Wahrheit, über die Güte, womit sie das ausrief, so entzückt, daß ich meine Empfindung mit nichts ausdrücken konnte, als ich nahm das Kind von der Erde und küßte es lebhaft, das sogleich zu schreien und zu weinen anfing. – »Sie haben übel getan«, sagte Lotte. – Ich war betroffen. – »komm, Malchen, »fuhr sie fort, indem sie es bei der Hand nahm und die Stufen hinabführte, »da wasche dich aus der frischen Quelle geschwind, geschwind, da tut's nichts«. – Wie ich so dastand und zusah, mit welcher Emsigkeit das Kleine seinen nassen Händchen die Backen rieb, mit welchem Glauben, daß durch die Wunderquelle alle Verunreinigung abgespült und die Schmach abgetan würde, einen häßlichen Bart zu kriegen; wie Lotte sagte: »es ist genug!« und das Kind doch immer eifrig fortwusch, als wenn Viel mehr täte als Wenig – ich sage dir, Wilhelm, ich habe mit mehr Respekt nie einer Taufhandlung beigewohnt; und als Lotte heraufkam, hätte ich mich gern vor ihr niedergeworfen wie vor einem Propheten, der die Schulden einer Nation weggeweiht hat.
Des Abends konnte ich nicht umhin, in der Freude meines Herzens den Vorfall einem Manne zu erzählen, dem ich Menschensinn zutraute, weil er Verstand hat; aber wie kam ich an! Er sagte, das sei sehr übel von Lotten gewesen; man solle den Kindern nichts weis machen; dergleichen gebe zu unzähligen Irrtümern und Aberglauben Anlaß, wovor man die Kinder frühzeitig bewahren müsse. – nun fiel mir ein, daß der Mann vor acht Tagen hatte taufen lassen, drum ließ ich's vorbeigehen und blieb in meinem Herzen der Wahrheit getreu: wir sollen es mit den Kindern machen wie Gott mit uns, der uns am glücklichsten macht, wenn er uns in freundlichem Wahne so hintaumeln läßt.
Am 8. Julius
Was man ein Kind ist! Was man nach so einem Blicke geizt! Was man ein Kind ist! – Wir waren nach Wahlheim gegangen. Die Frauenzimmer fuhren hinaus, und während unserer Spaziergänge glaubte ich in Lottens schwarzen Augen – ich bin ein Tor, verzeih mir's! Du solltest sie sehen, diese Augen. – Daß ich kurz bin (denn die Augen fallen mir zu vor Schlaf): siehe, die Frauenzimmer stiegen ein, da standen um die Kutsche der junge W., Selstadt und Audran und ich. Da ward aus dem Schlage geplaudert mit den Kerlchen, die freilich leicht und lüftig genug waren. – ich suchte Lottens Augen: ach, sie gingen von einem zum andern! Aber auf mich! Mich! Mich! Der ganz allein auf sie resigniert dastand, fielen sie nicht! – Mein Herz sagte ihr tausend Adieu! Und sie sah mich nicht! Die Kutsche fuhr vorbei, und eine Träne stand mir im Auge. Ich sah ihr nach und sah Lottens Kopfputz sich zum Schlage herauslehnen, und sie wandte sich um zu sehen, ach! Nach mir? – Lieber! In dieser Ungewißheit schwebe ich; das ist mein Trost: vielleicht hat sie sich nach mir umgesehen! Vielleicht! – Gute Nacht! O, was ich ein Kind bin!
Am 10. Julius
Die alberne Figur, die ich mache, wenn in Gesellschaft von ihr gesprochen wird, solltest du sehen! Wenn man mich nun gar fragt, wie sie mir gefällt? – gefällt! Das Wort hasse ich auf den Tod. Was muß das für ein Mensch sein, dem Lotte gefällt, dem sie nicht alle Sinne, alle Empfindungen ausfüllt! Gefällt! Das Wort hasse ich auf den Tod. Was muß das für ein Mensch sein, dem Lotte gefällt, dem sie nicht alle Sinne, alle Empfindungen ausfüllt! Gefällt! Neulich fragte mich einer, wie mir Ossian gefiele!
Am 11. Julius
Frau M. ist sehr schlecht; ich bete für ihr Leben, weil ich mit Lotten dulde. Ich sehe sie selten bei einer Freundin, und heute hat sie mir einen wunderbaren Vorfall erzählt. – der alte M. ist ein geiziger, rangiger Filz, der seine Frau im Leben was Rechts geplagt und eingeschränkt hat; doch hat sich die Frau immer durchzuhelfen gewußt. Vor wenigen Tagen, als der Arzt ihr das Leben abgesprochen hatte, ließ sie ihren Mann kommen (Lotte war im Zimmer) und redete ihn also an: »Ich muß dir eine Sache gestehen, die nach meinem Tode Verwirrung und Verdruß machen könnte. Ich habe bisher die Haushaltung geführt, so ordentlich und sparsam als möglich; allein du wirst mir verzeihen, daß ich dich diese dreißig Jahre her hintergangen habe. Du bestimmtest im Anfange unserer Heirat ein Geringes für die Bestreitung der Küche und anderer häuslichen Ausgaben. Als unsere Haushaltung stärker wurde, unser Gewerbe größer, warst du nicht zu bewegen, mein Wochengeld nach dem Verhältnisse zu vermehren; kurz, du weißt, daß du in den Zeiten, da sie am größten war, verlangtest, ich solle mit sieben Gulden die Woche auskommen.
Die habe ich denn ohne Widerrede genommen und mir den Überschuß wöchentlich aus der Losung geholt, da niemand vermutete, daß die Frau die Kasse bestehlen würde. Ich habe nichts verschwendet und wäre auch, ohne es zu bekennen, getrost der Ewigkeit entgegengegangen, wenn nicht diejenige, die nach mir das Hauswesen zu führen hat, sich nicht zu helfen wissen würde, und du doch immer darauf bestehen könntest, deine erste Frau sei damit ausgekommen«.
Ich redete mit Lotten über die unglaubliche Verblendung des Menschensinns, daß einer nicht argwohnen soll, dahinter müsse was anders stecken, wenn eins mit sieben Gulden hinreicht, wo man den Aufwand vielleicht um zweimal so viel sieht. Aber ich habe selbst Leute gekannt, die des Propheten ewiges Ölkrüglein ohne Verwunderung in ihrem Hause angenommen hätten.
Am 13. Julius
Nein, ich betrüge mich nicht! Ich lese in ihren schwarzen Augen wahre Teilnehmung an mir und meinem Schicksal. Ja ich fühle, und darin darf ich meinem Herzen trauen, daß sie – o darf ich, kann ich den Himmel in diesen Worten aussprechen? – daß sie mich liebt!
Mich liebt! – und wie wert ich mir selbst werde, wie ich – dir darf ich's wohl sagen, du hast Sinn für so etwas – wie ich mich selbst anbete, seitdem sie mich liebt!
Ob das Vermessenheit ist oder Gefühl des wahren Verhältnisses? – ich kenne den Menschen nicht, von dem ich etwas in Lottens Herzen fürchtete. Und doch – wenn sie von ihrem Bräutigam spricht, mit solcher Wärme, solcher Liebe von ihm spricht – da ist mir's wie einem, der aller seiner Ehren und Würden entsetzt und dem der Degen genommen wird.
Am 16. Julius
Ach wie mir das durch alle Adern läuft, wenn mein Finger unversehens den ihrigen berührt, wenn unsere Füße sich unter dem Tische begegnen! Ich ziehe zurück wie vom Feuer, und eine geheime Kraft zieht mich wieder vorwärts – mir wird's so schwindelig vor allen Sinnen. – O! Und ihre Unschuld, ihre unbefangene Seele fühlt nicht, wie sehr mich die kleinen Vertraulichkeiten peinigen. Wenn sie gar im Gespräch ihre Hand auf die meinige legt und im Interesse der Unterredung näher zu mir rückt, daß der himmlische Atem ihres Mundes meine Lippen erreichen kann: – ich glaube zu versinken, wie vom Wetter gerührt. – und, Wilhelm! Wenn ich mich jemals unterstehe, diesen Himmel, dieses Vertrauen –! Du verstehst mich. Nein, mein Herz ist so verderbt nicht! Schwach! Schwach genug! – und ist das nicht Verderben?
– sie ist mir heilig. Alle Begier schweigt in ihrer Gegenwart. Ich weiß nie, wie mir ist, wenn ich bei ihr bin; es ist, als wenn die Seele sich mir in allen Nerven umkehrte. – sie hat eine Melodie, die sie auf dem Klaviere spielet mit der Kraft eines Engels, so simpel und so geistvoll! Es ist ihr Leiblied, und mich stellt es von aller Pein, Verwirrung und Grillen her, wenn sie nur die erste Note davon greift.
Kein Wort von der Zauberkraft der alten Musik ist mir unwahrscheinlich. Wie mich der einfache Gesang angreift! Und wie sie ihn anzubringen weiß, oft zur Zeit, wo ich mir eine Kugel vor den Kopf schießen möchte! Die Irrung und Finsternis meiner Seele zerstreut sich, und ich atme wieder freier.
Am 18. Julius
Wilhelm, was ist unserem Herzen die Welt ohne Liebe! Was eine Zauberlaterne ist ohne Licht! Kaum bringst du das Lämpchen hinein, so scheinen dir die buntesten Bilder an deine weiße Wand! Und wenn's nichts wäre als das, als vorübergehende Phantome, so macht's doch immer unser Glück, wenn wir wie frische Jungen davor stehen und uns über die Wundererscheinungen entzücken. Heute konnte ich nicht zu Lotten, eine unvermeidliche Gesellschaft hielt mich ab. Was war zu tun? Ich schickte meinen Diener hinaus, nur um einen Menschen um mich zu haben, der ihr heute nahe gekommen wäre. Mit welcher Ungeduld ich ihn erwartete, mit welcher Freude ich ihn wiedersah! Ich hätte ihn gern beim Kopfe genommen und geküßt, wenn ich mich nicht geschämt hätte.
Man erzählt von dem Bononischen Steine, daß er, wenn man ihn in die Sonne legt, ihre Strahlen anzieht und eine Weile bei Nacht leuchtet. So war mir's mit dem Burschen. Das Gefühl, daß ihre Augen auf seinem Gesichte, seinen Backen, seinen Rockknöpfen und dem Kragen am Surtout geruht hatten, machte mir das alles so heilig, so wert! Ich hätte in dem Augenblick den Jungen nicht um tausend Taler gegeben. Es war mir so wohl in seiner Gegenwart. – bewahre dich Gott, daß du darüber lachest. Wilhelm, sind das Phantome, wenn es uns wohl ist?
Den 19. Julius
»Ich werde sie sehen!« ruf' ich morgens aus, wenn ich mich ermuntere und mit aller Heiterkeit der schönen Sonne entgegenblicke; »ich werde sie sehen!« und da habe ich für den ganzen Tag keinen Wunsch weiter. Alles, alles verschlingt sich in dieser Aussicht.
Den 20. Julius
Eure Idee will noch nicht die meinige werden, daß ich mit dem Gesandten nach *** gehen soll. Ich liebe die Subordination nicht sehr, und wir wissen alle, daß der Mann noch dazu ein widriger Mensch ist. Meine Mutter möchte mich gern in Aktivität haben, sagst du, das hat mich zu lachen gemacht. Bin ich jetzt nicht auch aktiv, und ist's im Grunde nicht einerlei, ob ich Erbsen zähle oder Linsen? Alles in der Welt läuft doch auf eine Lumperei hinaus, und ein Mensch, der um anderer willen, ohne daß es seine eigene Leidenschaft, sein eigenes Bedürfnis ist, sich um Geld oder Ehre oder sonst was abarbeitet, ist immer ein Tor.
Am 24. Julius
Da dir so sehr daran gelegen ist, daß ich mein Zeichnen nicht vernachlässige, möchte ich lieber die ganze Sache übergehen als dir sagen, daß zeither wenig getan wird.
Noch nie war ich glücklicher, noch nie war meine Empfindung an der Natur, bis aufs Steinchen, aufs Gräschen herunter, voller und inniger, und doch – ich weiß nicht, wie ich mich ausdrücken soll, meine vorstellende Kraft ist so schwach, alles schwimmt und schwankt so vor meiner Seele, daß ich keinen Umriß packen kann; aber ich bilde mir ein, wenn ich Ton hätte oder Wachs, so wollte ich's wohl herausbilden. Ich werde auch Ton nehmen, wenn's länger währt, und kneten, uns sollten's Kuchen werden!
Lottens Porträt habe ich dreimal angefangen, und habe mich dreimal prostituiert; das mich um so mehr verdrießt, weil ich vor einiger Zeit sehr glücklich im Treffen war. Darauf habe ich denn ihren Schattenriß gemacht, und damit soll mir g'nügen.
Am 26. Julius
Ja, liebe Lotte, ich will alles besorgen und bestellen; geben Sie mir nur mehr Aufträge, nur recht oft. Um eins bitte ich Sie: keinen Sand mehr auf die Zettelchen, die Sie mir schreiben. Heute führte ich es schnell nach der Lippe, und die Zähne knisterten mir.
Am 26. Julius
Ich habe mir schon manchmal vorgenommen, sie nicht so oft zu sehn. Ja wer das halten könnte! Alle Tage unterlieg' ich der Versuchung und verspreche mir heilig: morgen willst du einmal wegbleiben. Und wenn der Morgen kommt, finde ich doch wieder eine unwiderstehliche Ursache, und ehe ich mich's versehe, bin ich bei ihr. Entweder sie hat des Abends gesagt: »Sie kommen doch morgen?« – wer könnte da wegbleiben? Oder sie gibt mir einen Auftrag, und ich finde schicklich, ihr selbst die Antwort zu bringen; oder der Tag ist gar zu schön, ich gehe nach Wahlheim, und wenn ich nun da bin, ist's nur noch eine halbe Stunde zu ihr! – ich bin zu nah in der Atmosphäre – zuck! So bin ich dort. Meine Großmutter hatte ein Märchen vom Magnetenberg: die Schiffe, die zu nahe kamen, wurden auf einmal alles Eisenwerks beraubt, die Nägel flogen dem Berge zu, und die armen Elenden scheiterten zwischen den übereinander stürzenden Brettern.
Am 30. Julius
Albert ist angekommen, und ich werde gehen; und wenn er der beste, der edelste Mensch wäre, unter den ich mich in jeder Betrachtung zu stellen bereit wäre, so wär's unerträglich, ihn vor meinem Angesicht im Besitz so vieler Vollkommenheit zu sehen. – Besitz! – genug, Wilhelm, der Bräutigam ist da! Ein braver, lieber Mann, dem man gut sein muß. Glücklicherweise war ich nicht beim Empfange! Das hätte mir das Herz zerrissen. Auch ist er so ehrlich und hat Lotten in meiner Gegenwart noch nicht ein einzigmal geküßt. Das lohn' ihm Gott! Um des Respekts willen, den er vor dem Mädchen hat, muß ich ihn lieben. Er will mir wohl, und ich vermute, das ist Lottens Werk mehr als seiner eigenen Empfindung; denn darin sind die Weiber fein und haben recht; wenn sie zwei Verehrer in gutem Vernehmen mit einander erhalten können, ist der Vorteil immer ihr, so selten es auch angeht.
Indes kann ich Alberten meine Achtung nicht versagen. Seine gelassene Außenseite sticht gegen die Unruhe meines Charakters sehr lebhaft ab, die sich nicht verbergen läßt. Er hat viel Gefühl und weiß, was er an Lotten hat. Er scheint wenig üble Laune zu haben, und du weißt, das ist die Sünde, die ich ärger hasse am Menschen als alle andre.
Er hält mich für einen Menschen von Sinn; und meine Anhänglichkeit zu Lotten, meine warme Freude, die ich an allen ihren Handlungen habe, vermehrt seinen Triumph, und er liebt sie nur desto mehr. Ob er sie nicht einmal mit keiner Eifersüchtelei peinigt, das lasse ich dahingestellt sein, wenigstens würd' ich an seinem Platz nicht ganz sicher vor diesem Teufel bleiben.
Dem sei nun wie ihm wolle, meine Freude, bei Lotten zu sein, ist hin. Soll ich das Torheit nennen oder Verblendung? – was braucht's Namen! Erzählt die Sache an sich! – ich wußte alles, was ich jetzt weiß, ehe Albert kam; ich wußte, daß ich keine Prätension an sie zu machen hatte, machte auch keine – das heißt, insofern es möglich ist, bei so viel Liebenswürdigkeit nicht zu begehren – und jetzt macht der Fratze große Augen, da der andere nun wirklich kommt und ihm das Mädchen wegnimmt.
Ich beiße die Zähne auf einander und spott über mein Elend, und spottete derer doppelt und dreifach, die sagen könnten, ich sollte mich resignieren, und weil es nun einmal nicht anders sein könnte. – schafft mir diese Strohmänner vom Halse! – ich laufe in den Wäldern herum, und wenn ich zu Lotten komme, und Albert bei ihr sitzt im Gärtchen unter der Laube, und ich nicht weiter kann, so bin ich ausgelassen närrisch und fange viel Possen, viel verwirrtes Zeug an. – »um Gottes willen«, sagte mir Lotte heut, »ich bitte Sie, keine Szene wie die von gestern abend! Sie sind fürchterlich, wenn Sie so lustig sind«. – Unter uns, ich passe die Zeit ab, wenn er zu tun hat; wutsch! Bin ich drauß, und da ist mir's immer wohl, wenn ich sie allein finde.
Am 8. August
Ich bitte dich, lieber Wilhelm, es war gewiß nicht auf dich geredet, wenn ich die Menschen unerträglich schalt, die von uns Ergebung in unvermeidliche Schicksale fordern. Ich dachte wahrlich nicht daran, daß du von ähnlicher Meinung sein könntest. Und im Grunde hast du recht. Nur eins, mein Bester! In der Welt ist es sehr selten mit dem Entweder-Oder getan; die Empfindungen und Handlungsweisen schattieren sich so mannigfaltig, als Abfälle zwischen einer Habichts- und Stumpfnase sind.
Du wirst mir also nicht übelnehmen, wenn ich dir dein ganzes Argument einräume und mich doch zwischen dem Entweder-Oder durchzustehlen suche.
Entweder, sagst du, hast du Hoffnung auf Lotten, oder du hast keine. Gut, im ersten Fall suche sie durchzutreiben, suche die Erfüllung deiner Wünsche zu umfassen: im anderen Fall ermanne dich und suche einer elenden Empfindung los zu werden, die alle deine Kräfte verzehren muß. – Bester! Das ist wohl gesagt, und – bald gesagt.
Und kannst du von dem Unglücklichen, dessen Leben unter einer schleichenden Krankheit unaufhaltsam allmählich abstirbt, kannst du von ihm verlangen, er solle durch einen Dolchstoß der Qual auf einmal ein Ende machen? Und raubt das Übel, das ihm die Kräfte verzehrt, ihm nicht auch zugleich den Mut, sich davon zu befreien?
Zwar könntest du mir mit einem verwandten Gleichnisse antworten: wer ließe sich nicht lieber den Arm abnehmen, als daß er durch Zaudern und Zagen sein Leben aufs Spiel setzte? – Ich weiß nicht! – Und wir wollen uns nicht in Gleichnissen herumbeißen. Genug – ja, Wilhelm, ich habe manchmal so einen Augenblick aufspringenden, abschüttelnden Muts, und da – wenn ich nur wüßte wohin, ich ginge wohl.
Am 8. August
Abends
Mein Tagebuch, das ich seit einiger Zeit vernachlässiget, fiel mir heut wieder in die Hände, und ich bin erstaunt, wie ich so wissentlich in das alles, Schritt vor Schritt, hineingegangen bin! Wie ich über meinen Zustand immer so klar gesehen und doch gehandelt habe wie ein Kind, jetzt noch so klar sehe, und es noch keinen Anschein zur Besserung hat.
Am 10. August
Ich könnte das beste, glücklichste Leben führen, wenn ich nicht ein Tor wäre. So schöne Umstände vereinigen sich nicht leicht, eines Menschen Seele zu ergetzen, als die sind, in denen ich mich jetzt befinde. Ach so gewiß ist's, daß unser Herz allein sein Glück macht. – ein Glied der liebenswürdigen Familie zu sein, von dem Alten geliebt zu werden wie ein Sohn, von den Kleinen wie ein Vater, und von Lotten! – dann der ehrliche Albert, der durch keine launische Unart mein Glück stört; der mich mit herzlicher Freundschaft umfaßt; dem ich nach Lotten das Liebste auf der Welt bin! – Wilhelm, es ist eine Freude, uns zu hören, wenn wir spazierengehen und uns einander von Lotten unterhalten: es ist in der Welt nichts Lächerlichers erfunden worden als dieses Verhältnis, und doch kommen mir oft darüber die Tränen in die Augen.
Wenn er mir von ihrer rechtschaffenen Mutter erzählt: wie sie auf ihrem Todbette Lotten ihr Haus und ihre Kinder übergeben und ihm Lotten anbefohlen habe, wie seit der Zeit ein ganz anderer Geist Lotten belebt habe, wie sie, in der Sorge für ihre Wirtschaft und in dem Ernste, eine wahre Mutter geworden, wie kein Augenblick ihrer Zeit ohne tätige Liebe, ohne Arbeit verstrichen, und dennoch ihre Munterkeit, ihr leichter Sinn sie nie dabei verlassen habe. – Ich gehe so neben ihm hin und pflücke Blumen am Wege, füge sie sehr sorgfältig in einen Strauß und – werfe sie in den vorüberfließenden Strom und sehe ihnen nach, wie sie leise hinunterwallen. – Ich weiß nicht, ob ich dir geschrieben habe, daß Albert hier bleiben und ein Amt mit einem artigen Auskommen vom Hofe erhalten wird, wo er sehr beliebt ist. In Ordnung und Emsigkeit in Geschäften habe ich wenig seinesgleichen gesehen.
Am 12. August
Gewiß, Albert ist der beste Mensch unter dem Himmel. Ich habe gestern eine wunderbare Szene mit ihm gehabt. Ich kam zu ihm, um Abschied von ihm zu nehmen; denn mich wandelte die Lust an, ins Gebirge zu reiten, von woher ich dir auch jetzt schreibe, und wie ich in der Stube auf und ab gehe, fallen mir seine Pistolen in die Augen. – »Borge mir die Pistolen«, sagte ich, »zu meiner Reise«. – »Meinetwegen«, sagte er, »wenn du dir die Mühe nehmen willst, sie zu laden; bei mir hängen sie nur pro forma«. – Ich nahm eine herunter, und er fuhr fort: »seit mir meine Vorsicht einen so unartigen Streich gespielt hat, mag ich mit dem Zeuge nichts mehr zu tun haben«. – Ich war neugierig, die Geschichte zu wissen. – »Ich hielt mich«, erzählte er, »wohl ein Vierteljahr auf dem Lande bei einem Freunde auf, hatte ein paar Terzerolen ungeladen und schlief ruhig. Einmal an einem regnichten Nachmittage, da ich müßig sitze, weiß ich nicht, wie mir einfällt: wir könnten überfallen werden, wir könnten die Terzerolen nötig haben und könnten – du weißt ja, wie das ist. – ich gab sie dem Bedienten, sie zu putzen und zu laden; und der dahlt mit den Mädchen, will sie schrecken, und Gott weiß wie, das Gewehr geht los, da der Ladstock noch drin steckt, und schießt den Ladstock einem Mädchen zur Maus herein an der rechten Hand und zerschlägt ihr den Daumen. Da hatte ich das Lamentieren, und die Kur zu bezahlen obendrein, und seit der Zeit lass' ich alles Gewehr ungeladen. Lieber Schatz, was ist Vorsicht? Die Gefahr läßt sich nicht auslernen! Zwar. – Nun weißt du, daß ich den Menschen sehr lieb habe bis auf seine Zwar; denn versteht sich's nicht von selbst, daß jeder allgemeine Satz Ausnahmen leidet? Aber so rechtfertig ist der Mensch! Wenn er glaubt, etwas Übereiltes, Allgemeines, Halbwahres gesagt zu haben, so hört er dir nicht auf zu limitieren, zu modifizieren und ab- und zuzutun, bis zuletzt gar nichts mehr an der Sache ist.
Und bei diesem Anlaß kam er sehr tief in Text: ich hörte endlich gar nicht weiter auf ihn, verfiel in Grillen, und mit einer auffahrenden Gebärde drückte ich mir die Mündung der Pistole übers rechte Aug' an die Stirn. – »Pfui!« sagte Albert, indem er mir die Pistole herabzog, »was soll das?« – »Sie ist nicht geladen«, sagte ich. – »Und auch so, was soll's?« versetzte er ungeduldig. »Ich kann mir nicht vorstellen, wie ein Mensch so töricht sein kann, sich zu erschießen; der bloße Gedanke erregt mir Widerwillen«.
»Daß ihr Menschen«, rief ich aus, »um von einer Sache zu reden, gleich sprechen müßt: ›das ist töricht, das ist klug, das ist gut, das ist bös!‹ und was will das alles heißen? Habt ihr deswegen die innern Verhältnisse einer Handlung erforscht? Wißt ihr mit Bestimmtheit die Ursachen zu entwickeln, warum sie geschah, warum sie geschehen mußte? Hättet ihr das, ihr würdet nicht so eilfertig mit euren Urteilen sein«. »Du wirst mir zugeben«, sagte Albert, »daß gewisse Handlungen lasterhaft bleiben, sie mögen geschehen, aus welchem Beweggrunde sie wollen«. Ich zuckte die Achseln und gab's ihm zu. – »Doch, mein Lieber«, fuhr ich fort, »finden sich auch hier einige Ausnahmen. Es ist wahr, der Diebstahl ist ein Laster: aber der Mensch, der, um sich und die Seinigen vom gegenwärtigen Hungertode zu erretten, auf Raub ausgeht, verdient der Mitleiden oder Strafe? Wer hebt den ersten Stein auf gegen den Ehemann, der im gerechten Zorne sein untreues Weib und ihren nichtswürdigen Verführer aufopfert? Gegen das Mädchen, das in einer wonnevollen Stunde sich in den unaufhaltsamen Freuden der Liebe verliert? Unsere Gesetze selbst, diese kaltblütigen Pedanten, lassen sich rühren und halten ihre Strafe zurück«.
»Das ist ganz was anders«, versetzte Albert, »weil ein Mensch, den seine Leidenschaften hinreißen, alle Besinnungskraft verliert und als ein Trunkener, als ein Wahnsinniger angesehen wird«. »Ach ihr vernünftigen Leute!« rief ich lächelnd aus. »Leidenschaft! Trunkenheit! Wahnsinn! Ihr steht so gelassen, so ohne Teilnehmung da, ihr sittlichen Menschen, scheltet den Trinker, verabscheut den Unsinnigen, geht vorbei wie der Priester und dankt Gott wie der Pharisäer, daß er euch nicht gemacht hat wie einen von diesen. Ich bin mehr als einmal trunken gewesen, meine Leidenschaften waren nie weit vom Wahnsinn, und beides reut mich nicht: denn ich habe in einem Maße begreifen lernen, wie man alle außerordentlichen Menschen, die etwas Großes, etwas Unmöglichscheinendes wirkten, von jeher für Trunkene und Wahnsinnige ausschreiten mußte. Aber auch im gemeinen Leben ist's unerträglich, fast einem jeden bei halbweg einer freien, edlen, unerwarteten Tat nachrufen zu hören: ›der Mensch ist trunken, der ist närrisch!‹ Schämt euch, ihr Nüchternen! Schämt euch, ihr Weisen!« »Das sind nun wieder von deinen Grillen«, sagte Albert, »du überspannst alles und hast wenigstens hier gewiß unrecht, daß du den Selbstmord, wovon jetzt die Rede ist, mit großen Handlungen vergleichst: da man es doch für nichts anders als eine Schwäche halten kann. Denn freilich ist es leichter zu sterben, als ein qualvolles Leben standhaft zu ertragen«. Ich war im Begriff abzubrechen; denn kein Argument bringt mich so aus der Fessung, als wenn einer mit einem unbedeutenden Gemeinspruche angezogen kommt, wenn ich aus ganzem Herzen rede.
Doch faßte ich mich, weil ich's schon oft gehört und mich öfter darüber geärgert hatte, und versetzte ihm mit einiger Lebhaftigkeit: »Du nennst das Schwäche? Ich bitte dich, laß dich vom Anscheine nicht verführen. Ein Volk, das unter dem unerträglichen Joch eines Tyrannen seufzt, darfst du das schwach heißen, wenn es endlich aufgärt und seine Ketten zerreißt? Ein Mensch, der über dem Schrecken, daß Feuer sein Haus ergriffen hat, alle Kräfte gespannt fühlt und mit Leichtigkeit Lasten wegträgt, die er bei ruhigem Sinne kaum bewegen kann; einer, der in der Wut der Beleidigung es mit sechsen aufnimmt und sie überwältig, sind die schwach zu nennen? Und, mein Guter, wenn Anstrengung Stärke ist, warum soll die Überspannung das Gegenteil sein?« – Albert sah mich an und sagte: »nimm mir's nicht übel, die Beispiele, die du gibst, scheinen hieher gar nicht zu gehören«. – »Es mag sein«, sagte ich, »man hat mir schon öfters vorgeworfen, daß meine Kombinationsart manchmal an Radotage grenze. Laßt uns denn sehen, ob wir uns auf eine andere Weise vorstellen können, wie dem Menschen zu Mute sein mag, der sich entschließt, die sonst angenehme Bürde des Lebens abzuwerfen. Denn nur insofern wir mitempfinden, haben wir die Ehre, von einer Sache zu reden«.
»Die menschliche Natur«, fuhr ich fort, »hat ihre Grenzen: sie kann Freude, Leid, Schmerzen bis auf einen gewissen Grad ertragen und geht zugrunde, sobald der überstiegen ist. Hier ist also nicht die Frage, ob einer schwach oder stark ist, sondern ob er das Maß seines Leidens ausdauern kann, es mag nun moralisch oder körperlich sein. Und ich finde es ebenso wunderbar zu sagen, der Mensch ist feige, der sich das Leben nimmt, als es ungehörig wäre, den einen Feigen zu nennen, der an einem bösartigen Fieber stirbt«.
»Paradox! Sehr paradox!« rief Albert aus. – »Nicht so sehr, als du denkst«, versetzte ich. »Du gibst mir zu, wir nennen das eine Krankheit zum Tode, wodurch die Natur so angegriffen wird, daß teils ihre Kräfte verzehrt, teils so außer Wirkung gesetzt werden, daß sie sich nicht wieder aufzuhelfen, durch keine glückliche Revolution den gewöhnlichen Umlauf des Lebens wieder herzustellen fähig ist.
Nun, mein Lieber, laß uns das auf den Geist anwenden. Sich den Menschen an in seiner Eingeschränktheit, wie Eindrücke auf ihn wirken, Ideen sich bei ihm festsetzen, bis endlich eine wachsende Leidenschaft ihn aller ruhigen Sinneskraft beraubt und ihn zugrunde richtet.
Vergebens, daß der gelassene, vernünftige Mensch den Zustand Unglücklichen übersieht, vergebens, daß er ihm zuredet! Ebenso wie ein Gesunder, der am Bette des Kranken steht, ihm von seinen Kräften nicht das geringste einflößen kann«.
Alberten war das zu allgemein gesprochen. Ich erinnerte ihn an ein Mädchen, das man vor weniger Zeit im Wasser tot gefunden, und wiederholte ihm ihre Geschichte. – »Ein gutes, junges Geschöpf, das in dem engen Kreise häuslicher Beschäftigungen, wöchentlicher bestimmter Arbeit herangewachsen war, das weiter keine Aussicht von Vergnügen kannte, als etwa Sonntags in einem nach und nach zusammengeschafften Putz mit ihresgleichen um die Stadt spazierenzugehen, vielleicht alle hohen Feste einmal zu tanzen und übrigens mit aller Lebhaftigkeit des herzlichsten Anteils manche Stunde über den Anlaß eines Gezänkes, einer übeln Nachrede mit einer Nachbarin zu verplaudern – deren feurige Natur fühlt nun endlich innigere Bedürfnisse, die durch die Schmeicheleien der Männer vermehrt werden; ihre vorigen Freuden werden ihr nach und nach unschmackhaft, bis sie endlich einen Menschen antrifft, zu dem ein unbekanntes Gefühl sie unwiderstehlich hinreißt, auf den sie nun alle ihre Hoffnungen wirft, die Welt rings um sich vergißt, nichts hört, nichts sieht, nichts fühlt als ihn, den Einzigen, sich nur sehnt nach ihm, dem Einzigen. Durch die leeren Vergnügungen einer unbeständigen Eitelkeit nicht verdorben, zieht ihr Verlangen gerade nach dem Zweck, sie will die Seinige werden, sie will in ewiger Verbindung all das Glück antreffen, das ihr mangelt, die Vereinigung aller Freuden genießen, nach denen sie sich sehnte. Wiederholtes Versprechen, das ihr die Gewißheit aller Hoffnungen versiegelt, kühne Liebkosungen, die ihre Begierden vermehren, umfangen ganz ihre Seele; sie schwebt in einem dumpfen Bewußtsein, in einem Vorgefühl aller Freuden, sie ist bis auf den höchsten Grad gespannt, sie streckt endlich ihre Arme aus, all ihre Wünsche zu umfassen – und ihr Geliebter verläßt sie. – Erstarrt, ohne Sinne steht sie vor einem Abgrunde; alles ist Finsternis um sie her, keine Aussicht, kein Trost, keine Ahnung! Denn der hat sie verlassen, in dem sie allein ihr Dasein fühlte. Sie sieht nicht die weite Welt, die vor ihr liegt, nicht die vielen, die ihr de Verlust ersetzen könnten, sie fühlt sich allein, verlassen von aller Welt, – und blind, in die Enge gepreßt von der entsetzlichen Not ihres Herzens, stürzt sie sich hinunter, um in einem rings umfangenden Tode alle ihre Qualen zu ersticken. – Sieh, Albert, das ist die Geschichte so manches Menschen! Und sag', ist das nicht der Fall der Krankheit? Die Natur findet keinen Ausweg aus dem Labyrinthe der verworrenen und widersprechenden Kräfte, und der Mensch muß sterben. Wehe dem, der zusehen und sagen könnte: ›die Törin! Hätte sie gewartet, hätte sie die Zeit wirken lassen, die Verzweifelung würde sich schon gelegt, es würde sich schon ein anderer sie zu trösten vorgefunden haben.‹ – Das ist eben, als wenn einer sagte: ›der Tor, stirbt am Fieber! Hätte er gewartet, bis seine Kräfte sich erholt, seine Säfte sich verbessert, der Tumult seines Blutes sich gelegt hätten: alles wäre gut gegangen, und er lebte bis auf den heutigen Tag!‹«
Albert, dem die Vergleichung noch nicht anschaulich war, wandte noch einiges ein, und unter andern: ich hätte nur von einem einfältigen Mädchen gesprochen; wie aber ein Mensch von Verstande, der nicht so eingeschränkt sei, der mehr Verhältnisse übersehe, zu entschuldigen sein möchte, könne er nicht begreifen. – »Mein Freund«, rief ich aus, »der Mensch ist Mensch, und das bißchen Verstand, das einer haben mag, kommt wenig oder nicht in Anschlag, wenn Leidenschaft wütet und die Grenzen der Menschheit einen drängen. Vielmehr – ein andermal davon«, sagte ich und griff nach meinem Hute. O mir war das Herz so voll – und wir gingen auseinander, ohne einander verstanden zu haben. Wie denn auf dieser Welt keiner leicht den andern versteht.
Am 15. August
Es ist doch gewiß, daß in der Welt den Menschen nichts notwendig macht als die Liebe. Ich fühl's an Lotten, daß sie mich ungern verlöre, und die Kinder haben keinen andern Begriff, als daß ich immer morgen wiederkommen würde. Heute war ich hinausgegangen, Lottens Klavier zu stimmen, ich konnte aber nicht dazu kommen, denn die Kleinen verfolgten mich um ein Märchen, und Lotte sagte selbst, ich sollte ihnen den Willen tun. Ich schnitt ihnen das Abendbrot, das sie nun fast so gern von mir als von Lotten annehmen, und erzählte ihnen das Hauptstückchen von der Prinzessin, die von Händen bedient wird. Ich lerne viel dabei, das versichre ich dich, und ich bin erstaunt, was es auf sie für Eindrücke macht. Weil ich manchmal einen Inzidentpunkt erfinden muß, den ich beim zweitenmal vergesse, sagen sie gleich, das vorigemal wär' es anders gewesen, so daß ich mich jetzt übe, sie unveränderlich in einem singenden Silbenfall an einem Schnürchen weg zu rezitieren. Ich habe daraus gelernt, wie ein Autor durch eine zweite, veränderte Ausgabe seiner Geschichte, und wenn ie poetisch noch so besser geworden wäre, notwendig seinem Buche schaden muß. Der erste Eindruck findet uns willig, und der Mensch ist gemacht, daß man ihn das Abenteuerlichste überreden kann; das haftet aber auch gleich so fest, und wehe dem, der es wieder auskratzen und austilgen will!
Am 18. August
Mußte denn das so sein, daß das, was des Menschen Glückseligkeit macht, wieder die Quelle seines Elendes würde?
Das volle, warme Gefühl meines Herzens an der lebendigen Natur, das mich mit so vieler Wonne überströmte, das rings umher die Welt mir zu einem Paradiese schuf, wird mir jetzt zu einem unerträglichen Peiniger, zu einem quälenden Geist, der mich auf allen Wegen verfolgt. Wenn ich sonst vom Felsen über den Fluß bis zu jenen Hügeln das fruchtbare Tal überschaute und alles um mich her keimen und quellen sah; wenn ich jene Berge, vom Fuße bis auf zum Gipfel, mit hohen, dichten Bäumen bekleidet, jene Täler in ihren mannigfaltigen Krümmungen von den lieblichsten Wäldern beschattet sah, und der sanfte Fluß zwischen den lispelnden Rohren dahingleitete und die lieben Wolken abspiegelte, die der sanfte Abendwind am Himmel herüberwiegte; wenn ich dann die Vögel um mich den Wald beleben hörte, und die Millionen Mückenschwärme im letzten roten Strahle der Sonne mutig tanzten, und ihr letzter zuckender Blick den summenden Käfer aus seinem Grase befreite, und das Schwirren und Weben um mich her mich auf den Boden aufmerksam machte, und das Moos, das meinem harten Felsen seine Nahrung abzwingt, und das Geniste, das den dürren Sandhügel hinunter wächst, mir das innere, glühende, heilige Leben der Natur eröffnete: wie faßte ich das alles in mein warmes Herz, fühlte mich in der überfließenden Fülle wie vergöttert, und die herrlichen Gestalten der unendlichen Welt bewegten sich allbelebend in meiner Seele. Ungeheure Berge umgaben mich, Abgründe lagen vor mir, und Wetterbäche stürzten herunter, die Flüsse strömten unter mir, und Wald und Gebirg erklang; und ich sah sie wirken und schaffen ineinander in den Tiefen der Erde, alle die unergründlichen Kräfte; und nun über der Erde und unter dem Himmel wimmeln die Geschlechter der mannigfaltigen Geschöpfe. Ales, alles bevölkert mit tausendfachen Gestalten; und die Menschen dann sich in Häuslein zusammen sichern und sich annisten und herrschen in ihrem Sinne über die weite Welt! Armer Tor! Der du alles so gering achtest, weil du so klein bist. – vom unzugänglichen Gebirge über die Einöde, die kein Fuß betrat, bis ans Ende des unbekannten Ozeans weht der Geist des Ewigschaffenden und freut sich jedes Staubes, der ihn vernimmt und lebt. – ach damals, wie oft habe ich mich mit Fittichen eines Kranichs, der über mich hin flog, zu dem Ufer des ungemessenen Meeres gesehnt, aus dem schäumenden Becher des Unendlichen jene schwellende Lebenswonne zu trinken und nur einen Augenblick in der eingeschränkten Kraft meines Busens einen Tropfen der Seligkeit des Wesens zu fühlen, das alles in sich und durch sich hervorbringt.
Bruder, nur die Erinnerung jener Stunden macht mir wohl. Selbst diese Anstrengung, jene unsäglichen Gelüste zurückzurufen, wieder auszusprechen, hebt meine Seele über sich selbst und läßt mich dann das Bange des Zustandes doppelt empfinden, der mich jetzt umgibt.
Es hat sich vor meiner Seele wie ein Vorhang weggezogen, und der Schauplatz des unendlichen Lebens verwandelt sich vor mir in den Abgrund des ewig offenen Grabes. Kannst du sagen: Das ist! Da alles vorübergeht? Da alles mit der Wetterschnelle vorüberrollt, so selten die ganze Kraft seines Daseins ausdauert, ach, in den Strom fortgerissen, untergetaucht und an Felsen zerschmettert wird? Da ist kein Augenblick, der nicht dich verzehrte und die Deinigen um dich her, kein Augenblick, da du nicht ein Zerstörer bist, sein mußt; der harmloseste Spaziergang kostet tausend armen Würmchen das Leben, es zerrüttet ein Fußtritt die mühseligen Gebäude der Ameisen und stampft eine kleine Welt in ein schmähliches Grab. Ha! Nicht die große, seltne Not der Welt, diese Fluten, die eure Dörfer wegspülen, diese Erdbeben, die eure Städte verschlingen, rühren mich; mir untergräbt das Herz die verzehrende Kraft, die in dem All der Natur verborgen liegt; die nichts gebildet hat, das nicht seinen Nachbar, nicht sich selbst zerstörte. Und so taumle ich beängstigt. Himmel und Erde und ihre webenden Kräfte um mich her: ich sehe nichts als ein ewig verschlingendes, ewig wiederkäuendes Ungeheuer.
Am 21. August
Umsonst strecke ich meine Arme nach ihr aus, morgens, wenn ich von schweren Träumen aufdämmere, vergebens suche ich sie nachts in meinem Bette, wenn mich ein glücklicher, unschuldiger Traum getäuscht hat, als säß' ich neben ihr auf der Wiese und hielt' ihre Hand und deckte sie mit tausend Küssen. Ach, wenn ich dann noch halb im Taumel des Schlafes nach ihr tappe und drüber mich ermuntere – ein Strom von Tränen bricht aus meinem gepreßten Herzen, und ich weine trostlos einer finstern Zukunft entgegen.
Am 22. August
Es ist ein Unglück, Wilhelm, meine tätigen Kräfte sind zu einer unruhigen Lässigkeit verstimmt, ich kann nicht müßig sein und kann doch auch nichts tun. Ich habe keine Vorstellungskraft, kein Gefühl an der Natur, und die Bücher ekeln mich an. Wenn wir uns selbst fehlen, fehlt uns doch alles. Ich schwöre dir, manchmal wünschte ich, ein Tagelöhner zu sein, um nur des Morgens beim Erwachen eine Aussicht auf den künftigen Tag, einen Drang, eine Hoffnung zu haben. Oft beneide ich Alberten, den ich über die Ohren in Akten begraben sehe, und bilde mir ein, mir wäre wohl, wenn ich an seiner Stelle wäre! Schon etlichemal ist mir's so aufgefahren, ich wollte dir schreiben und dem Minister, um die Stelle bei der Gesandtschaft anzuhalten, die, wie du versicherst, mir nicht versagt werden würde. Ich glaube es selbst. Der Minister liebt mich seit langer Zeit, hatte lange mir angelegen, ich sollte mich irgendeinem Geschäfte widmen; und eine Stunde ist mir's auch wohl drum zu tun. Hernach, wenn ich wieder dran denke und mir die Fabel vom Pferde einfällt, das, seiner Freiheit ungeduldig, sich Sattel und Zeug auflegen läßt und zuschanden geritten wird – ich weiß nicht, was ich soll. – und, mein Lieber! Ist nicht vielleicht das Sehnen in mir nach Veränderung des Zustands eine innere, unbehagliche Ungeduld, die mich überallhin verfolgen wird?
Am 28. August
Es ist wahr, wenn meine Krankheit zu heilen wäre, so würden diese Menschen es tun. Heute ist mein Geburtstag, und in aller Frühe empfange ich ein Päckchen von Alberten. Mir fällt beim Eröffnen sogleich eine der blaßroten Schleifen in die Augen, die Lotte vor hatte, als ich sie kennen lernte, und um die ich sie seither etlichemal gebeten hatte. Es waren zwei Büchelchen in Duodez dabei, der kleine Wetsteinische Homer, eine Ausgabe, nach der ich so oft verlangt, um mich auf dem Spaziergange mit dem Ernestischen nicht zu schleppen. Sieh! So kommen sie meinen Wünschen zuvor, so suchen sie alle die kleinen Gefälligkeiten der Freundschaft auf, die tausendmal werter sind als jene blendenden Geschenke, wodurch uns die Eitelkeit des Gebers erniedrigt. Ich küsse diese Schleife tausendmal, und mit jedem Atemzuge schlürfe ich die Erinnerung jener Seligkeiten ein, mit denen mich jene wenigen, glücklichen, unwiederbringlichen Tage überfüllten. Wilhelm, es ist so, und ich murre nicht, die Blüten des Lebens sind nur Erscheinungen! Wie viele gehn vorüber, ohne eine Spur hinter sich zu lassen, wie wenige setzen Frucht an, und wie wenige dieser Früchte werden reif! Und doch sind deren noch genug da; und doch – o mein Bruder! – können wir gereifte Früchte vernachlässigen, verachten, ungenossen verfaulen lassen?
Lebe wohl! Es ist ein herrlicher Sommer; ich sitze oft auf den Obstbäumen in Lottens Baumstück mit dem Obstbrecher, der langen Stange, und hole die Birnen aus dem Gipfel. Sie steht unten und nimmt sie ab, wenn ich sie ihr herunterlasse.
Am 30. August
Unglücklicher! Bist du nicht ein Tor? Betriegst du dich nicht selbst? Was soll diese tobende, endlose Leidenschaft? Ich habe kein Gebet mehr als an sie; meiner Einbildungskraft erscheint keine andere Gestalt als die ihrige, und alles in der Welt um mich her sehe ich nur im Verhältnisse mit ihr. Und das macht mir denn so manche glückliche Stunde – bis ich mich wieder von ihr losreißen muß! Ach Wilhelm! Wozu mich mein Herz oft drängt! – wenn ich bei ihr gesessen bin, zwei, drei Stunden, und mich an ihrer Gestalt, an ihrem Betragen, an dem himmlischen Ausdruck ihrer Worte geweidet habe, und nun nach und nach alle meine Sinne aufgespannt werden, mir es düster vor den Augen wird, ich kaum noch höre, und es mich an die Gurgel faßt wie ein Meuchelmörder, dann mein Herz in wilden Schlägen den bedrängten Sinnen Luft zu machen sucht und ihre Verwirrung nur vermehrt – Wilhelm, ich weiß oft nicht, ob ich auf der Welt bin! Und – wenn nicht manchmal die Wehmut das Übergewicht nimmt und Lotte mir den elenden Trost erlaubt, auf ihrer Hand meine Beklemmung auszuweinen, – so muß ich fort, muß hinaus, und schweife dann weit im Felde umher; einen jähen Berg zu klettern ist dann meine Freude, durch einen unwegsamen Wald einen Pfad durchzuarbeiten, durch die Hecken, die mich verletzen, durch die Dornen, die mich zerreißen! Da wird mir's etwas besser! Etwas! Und wenn ich vor Müdigkeit und Durst manchmal unterwegs liegen bleibe, manchmal in der tiefen Nacht, wenn der hohe Vollmond über mir steht, im einsamen Walde auf einen krumm gewachsenen Baum mich setze, um meinen verwundeten Sohlen nur einige Linderung zu verschaffen, und dann in einer ermattenden Ruhe in dem Dämmerschein hinschlummre! O Wilhelm! Die einsame Wohnung einer Zelle, das härene Gewand und der Stachelgürtel wären Labsale, nach denen meine Seele schmachtet. Adieu! Ich sehe dieses Elendes kein Ende als das Grab.
Am 3. September
Ich muß fort! Ich danke dir, Wilhelm, daß du meinen wankenden Entschluß bestimmt hast. Schon vierzehn Tage gehe ich mit dem Gedanken um, sie zu verlassen. Ich muß fort. Sie ist wieder in der Stadt bei einer Freundin. Und Albert – und – ich muß fort!
Am 10. September
Das war eine Nacht! Wilhelm! Nun überstehe ich alles. Ich werde sie nicht wiedersehn! O daß ich nicht an deinen Hals fliegen, dir mit tausend Tränen und Entzückungen ausdrücken kann, mein Bester, die Empfindungen, die mein Herz bestürmen. Hier sitze ich und schnappe nach Luft, suche mich zu beruhigen, erwarte den Morgen, und mit Sonnenaufgang sind die Pferde bestellt.
Ach, sie schläft ruhig und denkt nicht, daß sie mich nie wieder sehen wird. Ich habe mich losgerissen, bin stark genug gewesen, in einem Gespräch von zwei Stunden mein Vorhaben nicht zu verraten. Und Gott, welch ein Gespräch!
Albert hatte mir versprochen, gleich nach dem Nachtessen mit Lotten im Garten zu sein. Ich stand auf der Terrasse unter den hohen Kastanienbäumen und sah der Sonne nach, die mir nun zum letztenmale über dem lieblichen Tale, über dem sanften Fluß unterging. So oft hatte ich hier gestanden mit ihr und eben dem herrlichen Schauspiele zugesehen, und nun – ich ging in der Allee auf und ab, die mir so lieb war; ein geheimer sympathetischer Zug hatte mich hier so oft gehalten, ehe ich noch Lotten kannte, und wie freuten wir uns, als wir im Anfang unserer Bekanntschaft die wechselseitige Neigung zu diesem Plätzchen entdeckten, das wahrhaftig eins von den romantischsten ist, die ich von der Kunst hervorgebracht gesehen habe.
Erst hast du zwischen den Kastanienbäumen die weite Aussicht – Ach, ich erinnere mich, ich habe dir, denk' ich, schon viel davon geschrieben, wie hohe Buchenwände einen endlich einschließen und durch ein daranstoßendes Boskett die Allee immer düsterer wird, bis zuletzt alles sich in ein geschlossenes Plätzchen endigt, das alle Schauer der Einsamkeit umschweben. Ich fühle es noch, wie heimlich mir's ward, als ich zum erstenmale an einem hohen Mittage hineintrat; ich ahnete ganz leise, was für ein Schauplatz das noch werden sollte von Seligkeit und Schmerz.
Ich hatte mich etwa eine halbe Stunde in den schmachtenden, süßen Gedanken des Abscheidens, des Wiedersehens geweidet, als ich sie die Terrasse heraufsteigen hörte. Ich lief ihnen entgegen, mit einem Schauer faßte ich ihre Hand und küßte sie. Wir waren eben heraufgetreten, als der Mond hinter dem buschigen Hügel aufging; wir redeten mancherlei und kamen unvermerkt dem düstern Kabinette näher. Lotte trat hinein und setzte sich, Albert neben sie, ich auch; doch meine Unruhe ließ mich nicht lange sitzen; ich stand auf, trat vor sie, ging auf und ab, setzte mich wieder: es war ein ängstlicher Zustand. Sie machte uns aufmerksam auf die schöne Wirkung des Mondenlichtes, das am Ende der Buchenwände die ganze Terrasse vor uns erleuchtete: ein herrlicher Anblick, der um so viel frappanter war, weil uns rings eine tiefe Dämmerung einschloß. Wir waren still, und sie fing nach einer Weile an: »niemals gehe ich im Mondenlichte spazieren, niemals, daß mir nicht der Gedanke an meine Verstorbenen begegnete, daß nicht das Gefühl von Tod, von Zukunft über mich käme«. »Wir werden sein!« fuhr sie mit der Stimme des herrlichsten Gefühls fort; »aber, Werther, sollen wir uns wieder finden? Wieder erkennen? Was ahnen Sie? Was sagen Sie?«
»Lotte«, sagte ich, indem ich ihr die Hand reichte und mir die Augen voll Tränen wurden, »wir werden uns wiedersehn! Hier und dort wiedersehn!« – ich konnte nicht weiter reden – Wilhelm, mußte sie mich das fragen, da ich diesen ängstlichen Abschied im Herzen hatte!
»Und ob die lieben Abgeschiednen von uns wissen«, fuhr sie fort, »ob sie fühlen, wann's uns wohl geht, daß wir mit warmer Liebe uns ihrer erinnern? O! Die Gestalt meiner Mutter schwebt immer um mich, wenn ich am stillen Abend unter ihren Kindern, unter meinen Kindern sitze und sie um mich versammelt sind, wie sie um sie versammelt waren. Wenn ich dann mit einer sehnenden Träne gen Himmel sehe und wünsche, daß sie hereinschauen könnte einen Augenblick, wie ich mein Wort halte, das ich ihr in der des Todes gab: die Mutter ihrer Kinder zu sein. Mit welcher Empfindung rufe ich aus: ›verzeihe mir's, Teuerste, wenn ich ihnen nicht bin, was du ihnen warst. Ach! Tue ich doch alles, was ich kann; sind sie doch gekleidet, genährt, ach, und, was mehr ist als das alles, gepflegt und geliebt. Könntest du unsere Eintracht sehen, liebe Heilige! Du würdest mit dem heißesten Danke den Gott verherrlichen, den du mit den letzten, bittersten Tränen um die Wohlfahrt deiner Kinder batest.‹«
– Sie sagte das! O Wilhelm, wer kann wiederholen, was sie sagte! Wie kann der kalte, tote Buchstabe diese himmlische Blüte des Geistes darstellen! Albert fiel ihr sanft in die Rede: »es greift zu stark an, liebe Lotte! Ich weiß, Ihre Seele hängt sehr nach diesen Ideen, aber ich bitte Sie«. – »O Albert«, sagte sie, »ich weiß, du vergissest nicht die Abende, da wir zusammensaßen an dem kleinen, runden Tischchen, wenn der Papa verreist war, und wir die Kleinen schlafen geschickt hatten. Du hattest oft ein gutes Buch und kannst so selten dazu, etwas zu lesen – war der Umgang dieser herrlichen Seele nicht mehr als alles? Die schöne, sanfte, muntere und immer tätige Frau! Gott kennt meine Tränen, mit denen ich mich oft in meinem Bette vor ihn hinwarf: er möchte mich ihr gleich machen«.
»Lotte!« rief ich aus, indem ich mich vor sie hinwarf, ihre Hand nahm und mit tausend Tränen netzte, »Lotte! Der Segen Gottes ruht über dir und der Geist deiner Mutter!« »Wenn Sie sie gekannt hätten«, sagte sie, indem sie mir die Hand drückte, – »sie war wert, von Ihnen gekannt zu sein!« – ich glaubte zu vergehen.
Nie war ein größeres, stolzeres Wort über mich ausgesprochen worden – und sie fuhr fort: »und diese Frau mußte in der Blüte ihrer Jahre dahin, da ihr jüngster Sohn nicht sechs Monate alt war! Ihre Krankheit dauerte nicht lange; sie war ruhig, hingegeben, nur ihre Kinder taten ihr weh, besonders das kleine. Wie es gegen das Ende ging und sie zu mir sagte: ›bringe mir sie herauf!‹ und wie ich sie hereinführte, die kleinen, die nicht wußten, und die ältesten, die ohne Sinne waren, wie sie ums Bette standen, und wie sie die Hände aufhob und über sie betete, und sie küßte nach einander und sie wegschickte und zu mir sagte: ›sei ihre Mutter!‹ – Ich gab ihr die Hand drauf! – ›Du versprichst viel, meine Tochter', sagte sie, ›das Herz einer Mutter und das Aug' einer Mutter. Ich habe oft an deinen dankbaren Tränen gesehen, daß du fühlst, was das sei. Habe es für deine Geschwister, und für deinen Vater die Treue und den Gehorsam einer Frau. Du wirst ihn trösten.‹ – Sie fragte nach ihm, er war ausgegangen, um uns den unerträglichen Kummer zu verbergen, den er fühlte, der Mann war ganz zerrissen.
Albert, du warst im Zimmer. Sie hörte jemand gehn und fragte und forderte dich zu sich, und wie sie dich ansah und mich, mit dem getrösteten, ruhigen Blicke, daß wir glücklich sein, zusammen glücklich sein würden«. – Albert fiel ihr um den Hals und küßte sie und rief: »wir sind es! Wir werden es sein!« – der ruhige Albert war ganz aus seiner Fassung, und ich wußte nichts von mir selber. »Werther«, fing sie an, »und diese Frau sollte dahin sein! Gott! Wenn ich manchmal denke, wie man das Liebste seines Lebens wegtragen läßt, und niemand als die Kinder das so scharf fühlt, die sich noch lange beklagten, die schwarzen Männer hätten die Mama weggetragen! »sie stand auf, und ich ward erweckt und erschüttert, blieb sitzen und hielt ihre Hand. – »Wir wollen fort«, sagte sie, »es wird Zeit«. – Sie wollte ihre Hand zurückziehen, und ich hielt sie fester. – »wir werden uns wieder sehen« rief ich, »wir werden uns finden, unter allen Gestalten werden wir uns erkennen. Ich gehe«, fuhr ich fort, »ich gehe willig, und doch, wenn ich sagen sollte auf ewig, ich würde es nicht aushalten. Leb' wohl, Lotte! Leb' wohl, Albert! Wir sehn uns wieder«. – »Morgen, denke ich«, versetzte sie scherzend. – Ich fühlte das Morgen! Ach, sie wußte nicht, als sie ihre Hand aus der meinen zog – Sie gingen die Allee hinaus, ich stand, sah ihnen nach im Mondscheine und warf mich an die Erde und weinte mich aus und sprang auf und lief auf die Terrasse hervor und sah noch dort unten im Schatten der hohen Lindenbäume ihr weißes Kleid nach der Gartentür schimmern, ich streckte meine Arme aus, und es verschwand.
wtfffffff is that how you treat meStop! You have violated the law. Pay the court a fine or serve your sentence. Your stolen goods are now forfeit.
ALSO MISTER WINDFLOWER REFRAIN FROM PUTTING MY THING INTO SPOILERS THX!!!
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Video from the final:Nice video, man!Spoiler[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu7EIhLG8O8[/youtube][close]
ggwp
gl to both teams in bronze match
So much salt here holy fuckIt escalated quickly and we apologize for that.
At all a pointless discussion.So much salt here holy fuckIt escalated quickly and we apologize for that.
Lancers are OP, everyone knows it ...Poor excuse. As Lurvy said, EU-players are simply not used to play against lancers.
To be honest just put it into perspective of native. If you play on native as cav and you had to choose between having light armour, courser and a scimitar or having medium armour, a hunter, a scimitar and a lance then what would you pick?Lancers are OP, everyone knows it ...Poor excuse. As Lurvy said, EU-players are simply not used to play against lancers.
Lancers are OP, everyone knows it ...Poor excuse. As Lurvy said, EU-players are simply not used to play against lancers.
Disagree. One example would be on CavGF fighting against MrAnnoying, he's probably the best heavy (at least who i find the most diffifuclt to beat) who still plays the game semi-regularly and he could kick my arse 9 times out of 10, as well as most other "good" hussars.
What you have to remember, Spain, is that a lot of your players aren't usually heavies (in previous years), and often before CNC you would have hussars training as heavies to get ready for the match. That inexperience I'd say is why you lost in the other editions, not that hussars are stronger than them, because that is definitely not true
Especially the matches against the 2eDLG and Les were ... "enjoyable".Lancers are OP, everyone knows it ...Poor excuse. As Lurvy said, EU-players are simply not used to play against lancers.
Posh, you and I were in the Nr5 and we both know how disgusting is play against lancers, but in my opinion the problem is in the stupid lances, that weapon should be ilegal ::)
Playing heavy cav vs hussars in CavGF it's completely different than a real match. Facing an enemy faster than you, in a giant map, can turn frustrating. Chasing 1-2 mounted hussars with heavy swords than are only runing away and making rounds last for 25 mins it's not funny either when you are riding a really slow horse.
Especially the matches against the 2eDLG and Les were ... "enjoyable".Lancers are OP, everyone knows it ...Poor excuse. As Lurvy said, EU-players are simply not used to play against lancers.
Posh, you and I were in the Nr5 and we both know how disgusting is play against lancers, but in my opinion the problem is in the stupid lances, that weapon should be ilegal ::)
But if you and I can kill lancers with a 130 ping, then it should be possible for *random national team* as well.
Especially the matches against the 2eDLG and Les were ... "enjoyable".Lancers are OP, everyone knows it ...Poor excuse. As Lurvy said, EU-players are simply not used to play against lancers.
Posh, you and I were in the Nr5 and we both know how disgusting is play against lancers, but in my opinion the problem is in the stupid lances, that weapon should be ilegal ::)
But if you and I can kill lancers with a 130 ping, then it should be possible for *random national team* as well.
Buff i hate so much the lancers haha
a circle of everlasting heavies forever following each other on top of a hill, is not funny either. play well win well
a circle of everlasting heavies forever following each other on top of a hill, is not funny either. play well win well
That wasnt funny for us either tbh, we just got forced to play that way or get killed from any direction because of the hussar speed.
Im not gonna lie, before the lancer vote we decided to pick hussars this year.
Hussars can kill heavy horse in 1 hit too :( and what is really frustrating, he can 1 hit me in the chest :( where is my armor? XDDI don't want to say anything, but you're a few hours late.
But lets keep this thread clear. We can talk about that stuff on steam :P
My bad :( dont hurt me pls :-XHussars can kill heavy horse in 1 hit too :( and what is really frustrating, he can 1 hit me in the chest :( where is my armor? XDDI don't want to say anything, but you're a few hours late.
But lets keep this thread clear. We can talk about that stuff on steam :PSpoiler( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)[close]
Anyone recorded the match for 3rd place?I have the footage but forgot to save my mic's audio, so I can upload it if people want me to?
BTW, GG to UK, schön gemacht, a tough match indeed. Also thanks to Erik for organizing CNC, very enjoyable tournament, would be perfect if not for the lancers #blamediarmuid
Anyone recorded the match for 3rd place?I have the footage but forgot to save my mic's audio, so I can upload it if people want me to?
BTW, GG to UK, schön gemacht, a tough match indeed. Also thanks to Erik for organizing CNC, very enjoyable tournament, would be perfect if not for the lancers #blamediarmuid
Anyone recorded the match for 3rd place?I have the footage but forgot to save my mic's audio, so I can upload it if people want me to?
BTW, GG to UK, schön gemacht, a tough match indeed. Also thanks to Erik for organizing CNC, very enjoyable tournament, would be perfect if not for the lancers #blamediarmuid
It'll probably take me a few days as I'm rather busy atm but I'll get the footage edited and uploaded as soon as I can.Anyone recorded the match for 3rd place?I have the footage but forgot to save my mic's audio, so I can upload it if people want me to?
BTW, GG to UK, schön gemacht, a tough match indeed. Also thanks to Erik for organizing CNC, very enjoyable tournament, would be perfect if not for the lancers #blamediarmuid
Sure, go ahead :)
I want to personally say a massive thank you to Erik for hosting the CNC this year. I think everyone can agree there was a lot more shit slinging this year than usual, another person may have run out of patience and called it quits but he kept it all running.
Whether this was the last CNC of NW or not I feel it’s been an enjoyment and a privilege to take part and I thank everyone who decided to join their nations team and helped make it a very enjoyable contest. GG.
-Hawk (amateur hussar of the 4e)
Thanks to Remi for organising this edition and handling all the mess it involved almost single-handedly. It took enormous effort and that effort is appreciated.
This tournament caused some tensions between us, but now that it's positively over, we can be tender gay lovers once again and keep nagivating the cloudless skies of love and pleasure.
Xoxo
Gj and thank you Erik
I didn't really participate actively this tournament, but I have to give props to the way you ran the tournament, Erik.
Thank you for hosting and taking so much effort in always trying to improve the CNC!
Most say that it has been an awesome one and I think that‘s what counts the most.
Edit: Probably we can use this thread to actually communicate about the future of the cav community!
It'll probably take me a few days as I'm rather busy atm but I'll get the footage edited and uploaded as soon as I can.
Dokle I love you too <3Shh not in public!
So, what do we all want next? A duel tournament, a 2v2 tournament, maybe even a new CNWL?
So, what do we all want next? A duel tournament, a 2v2 tournament, maybe even a new CNWL?
Btw, since I‘ve got many questions regardings Pickup Parties, I‘ll definitly try to improve it and organize them on a regular basis. I think the 159 group members are a good start!
There is a reason why lancers were not allowed, you can't do shit against them. UK, Fra and Ger loosing to mostly fucking no-names. The people that play every god damn day on CavGF, the best of the best, getting fucked by some monkeys with sticks. Atleast let us pick up the lances to fix the unbalanced range, but no. Spain won by choosing a OP troop class for groupmatches. Allowing Lancers was the biggest mistake in the history of the CNC. Fuck Irland and Fuck this god damn rulesetting. Fuck this shit. I'm out. The last CNC, the worst CNC. Erik you fucked up. I'm so god damn salty.
Cavalry Pickup Parties ? ???A project (https://steamcommunity.com/groups/NWCavPP) I've started, before I had not enough time to actually carry it on.
Cavalry Pickup Parties ? ???
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I have no voice in this, not since I left the Irish team, but fuck it.There is a reason why lancers were not allowed, you can't do shit against them. UK, Fra and Ger loosing to mostly fucking no-names. The people that play every god damn day on CavGF, the best of the best, getting fucked by some monkeys with sticks. Atleast let us pick up the lances to fix the unbalanced range, but no. Spain won by choosing a OP troop class for groupmatches. Allowing Lancers was the biggest mistake in the history of the CNC. Fuck Irland and Fuck this god damn rulesetting. Fuck this shit. I'm out. The last CNC, the worst CNC. Erik you fucked up. I'm so god damn salty.
This isn't a surprising attitude. Lancers get hated on every day because some people don't know how to deal with them - it's no wonder there are no lancer regiments or groups as Erik said, because anyone who plays long enough as a lancer knows they're going to get insulted and shit on by every salty hussar out there. It's funny you mention the best of the best on CavGF shockingly losing to lancers when you know that there are a few regular lancers who play there and who usually do quite well - in all humility I include myself in that number. You can't with a straight face tell me that most hussars have no experience of lancers, don't see the regulars (like myself, Diarmuid, Naoscaire, Michi/Ironfist, etc.) doing somewhat well for ourselves in the game.
I have always said it and I always will - the best hussars will always destroy the best lancers. This has always been the case for me and all of the other regular lancers I know. When people like MrAnnoying, Caucasian, Odden and so many others I couldn't possibly name come on I know I'm in for an extremely tough fight, and more likely than not I'm going to lose. I don't rage when this happens, because as I have always believed, playing against those who are better than you is the best way to get... well, better. I've seen it happen to my opponents - people who used to have trouble against me now know how to very effectively deal with me. I'm finding my lance is getting successfully blocked more and more as time goes by, especially in the last year.
Are lancers OP? We know what the general consensus is, so it's a moot question really, but fuck it, I'll address it. I've always seen it as each class having it's own advantages and disadvantages. I'm sure it's as annoying to a hussar to play against me as it is annoying for me to play against a heavy, or indeed a hussar who uses his speed to stay away from my significant reach. The lance is a powerful weapon with a hell of a thrust, but it's also slower to move and you have no ability to defend yourself other than to stay on the attack. You cannot block. If your back is exposed, you'd better hope your slower turn and slow thrust behind you will sort out the enemy for you. A good strategy for a hussar or group of hussars especially against a lancer or lancers is to stop them. A stopped lancer is a dead lancer, 90% of the time. The hussar's sabre is faster than our lance and they are able to attack from many more angles. They, of course, can block with it. Other than the couch attack, the sabre can quite effectively block the lance.
Couching. Couching is the big issue when it comes to lancers. I don't do it myself (which you'd think would send less hate my way, but no) but as it's an integral part of the class I am against removing it, too. A compromise I would be happy with (but which other lancers wouldn't be) is to remove the couch but give the lancer's horse the same speed as a hussar's, but sadly that doesn't seem to be in the cards from FSE. Of course couching is an unblockable attack but again, hussars can just outrun it. Even dismounted and on the ground, I see people avoiding couches quite easily. Perhaps I should not be talking about this, as the only lancer I know in all these years to not use the couch. When it comes to the couch, we know there was a vote passed that forbade couching, to make things "fairer" from the hussar and heavy's perspectives.
I said it here before - either lancers are allowed to play as they, or they should not be allowed at all. Not being allowed to play would certainly please many (and annoy the few lancers in the community) but at least you wouldn't have stupid, shit statements like the above about monkeys with sticks (classy statement, Fidje. I know you're angry as you said, but I would usually expect much better of you - not that this means anything to you). I'm sad to see that people feel the need to stoop to insults, but then that's just what lancers deal with the vast majority of their time in the game.
It's incorrect to say that people don't deal with lancers in the game or even just in tournaments - CavGF's own tournament may be small but you know there is a lancer team in there. And there are a few of us scattered here and there playing in this server or that server. I think it would be better and more correct to say that many people don't know how to deal with lancers, which is the truth as I see it, coming from my daily experiences in the game. It's unfortunate that Erik has had to deal with so much drama over this...
...but then as we all know drama is what the M&B community loves best.
Congratulations to Spain (wish I could have faced you guys on the Irish team!) and to Germany as well for getting to the final.
Most of your examples were about CavGF fighting, and it's extremely different in a 12v12 fight. I don't really want to relaunch the debate again, most of it has already been said by pro and anti-lancers. But as I already said, nobody denies the fact that there are people in this community who play as lancers. But that's on cavGF. There is no organized structure, like a regiment we could do 1v1s against, which would push us to train hard against groups of lancers etc.
You do have fair points, not denying it. But there already have been 4 or 5 pages of debating/arguing about that, I'm not sure it's quite necessary to restart it all.
What some of the German team players said after the match was said in a state of anger, an anger I can understand, it's never pleasing to lose a match, even more a final. I'm not giving them an excuse, but there is no need to keep reminding them that they went too far. It happens to people, and most of them apologized anyway.
Found a photorelation of the Spaniards celebrating their CNC victory, in the Spanish press:
https://elpais.com/elpais/2018/01/17/album/1516188849_578849.html
Found a photorelation of the Spaniards celebrating their CNC victory, in the Spanish press:
https://elpais.com/elpais/2018/01/17/album/1516188849_578849.html
Finally got a chance to upload the UK v Poland match;Videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Entg2NTM6zo[close]
Voilà sans moi vous avez perdu..(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b6/9e/b3/b69eb3c26e45daffdc0f49a222c3a99e--g%C3%A9rard-depardieu-sigourney-weaver.jpg)