| (https://i.imgur.com/jQnOEAr.png) | NORTH AMERICAN RANKINGS | (https://i.imgur.com/jQnOEAr.png) |
CURRENT MELEE(BY GODFREID) Spoiler 93 - AsianP 90 - Bill 90 - Russianfury 90 - Godfreid 90 - MATT 90 - Suns 89 - DJ 89 - Havoc 88 - Nickcole 88 - Yoshie 88 - Krastinov 88 - Sanders 88 - Fireboy 88 - Hellomoto 88 - KnightofStJohn 87 - Rune 87 – Anthony 87 - Shinto 87 - Puppytron 87 - Maniac 87 - Rafael 87 - Yoloswag 87 - Sleek 86 - Jetch 86 - Theodin 86 - Maccle 86 - Jaax 85 - Fartknocker 85 - Jetch 85 – Jorge 85 - AP0CALYPS3 85 - Maple 85 - Montoy 85 - Vetro 85 - Unitater 84 - Winters 84 - Pinoy 84 - Oatmeal 83 - Tizoc 83 - Bob 83 - Pedro 83 - Marksman 83 - Wall 83 - Fox 83 - Risk 83 - DrunkenSpartan 83 - BabyJesus 83 - Charles 83 - Jakester 83 - Zen 83 - Dodge 83 - Horse 82 - Trigo 82 - Min 82 - Midnight 82 - Dom 82 - Curtis 82 - EasternFox 82 - Amiranger 81 - Ghostrider 81 - Badger 81 - Hawkince 81 - Dan 81 - Anakin 81 - Vander 80 - Jamzzz 80 - Wiki 80 - Purplish 80 - Piktons 80 - Whalefish 80 - ForsakenWolf 80 - Goku 80 - Cytiuz 80 - Epix 80 - Moraine [close] |
ALL TIME MELEE __________________________________Spoiler
89 Pointblankv 89 Colonys22 89 Bill^ 89 SilentMan 89 Mang 89 RussianFury^ 89 Kovy^ 88 Achillles 88 Pinoy 88 Alexander 88 Serpenta 88 Hellomoto^ 88 DJOverJoy^ 87 Tico 87 DarthJezus 87 Sleek 87 Vortex 87 DragonPuff 87 Zzethv 86 Emo Celestia 86 Puppytron 86 Blade 86 Runepykz^ 86 Moose^ 86 Cade^ 86 Ghostv 85 Skinny 85 Maccle 85 Anthony^ 85 Rogelio 85 Psycho 85 Breachesv 85 Rafael^ 85 Fireboy^ 85 Knight of St. John^ 85 Krastinov^ 84 Mathias 84 Steven 84 Padre Suns 84 Chev 84 Slick 84 Sanders^ 84 Theodin^ 83 Scopes 83 Saltyy 83 Fallout 83 Zorkothv 83 Waste^ 82 Xeroth 82 FancyPants 82 Monty 82 Redrum 82 Rico 82 ZachAttack 82 Yoshie^ 82 Rere [close] | ALL TIME LEADERS (UPDATED) __________________________________Spoiler Elite Tier 93 (https://i.imgur.com/Ufj5CEf.png) (2ndQF/12thES) Tico/Breaches 92 (https://i.imgur.com/Ufj5CEf.png) (63e) Karth/Zen 91 (https://i.imgur.com/Ufj5CEf.png) (3eVolt/79th) AsianP 90 (https://i.imgur.com/Ufj5CEf.png) (41st) Maple High Tier 88 (https://i.imgur.com/Ufj5CEf.png) (71st) CheeseyPants 88 (https://i.imgur.com/Ufj5CEf.png) (5th/75th) Alexander/Chantakey 86 (https://i.imgur.com/Ufj5CEf.png) (1stFKI) Millander 85 (https://i.imgur.com/Ufj5CEf.png) (54th) Stox 85 (https://i.imgur.com/Ufj5CEf.png) (7y/7thRF) Zorkoth 84 (https://i.imgur.com/Ufj5CEf.png) (58e) Lawbringer 83 (https://i.imgur.com/Ufj5CEf.png) (various) Ody 82 (https://i.imgur.com/5Rx45s4.png) (4th/98e) Godfried 80 (https://i.imgur.com/Ufj5CEf.png) (PSG) KnightOfStJohn Medium Tier 79 (https://i.imgur.com/Ufj5CEf.png) (9y) Darth/MackCW 78 (https://i.imgur.com/Ufj5CEf.png) (22e) Praetorian 78 (https://i.imgur.com/Ufj5CEf.png) (92nd) Littlefield 78 (https://i.imgur.com/Ufj5CEf.png) (45e) DJOverJoy 78 (https://i.imgur.com/Ufj5CEf.png) (12e) DrByeBye 78 (https://i.imgur.com/Ufj5CEf.png) (USMC) CommissarJDF 78 (https://i.imgur.com/5Rx45s4.png) (8th) Jorge 78 (https://i.imgur.com/Ufj5CEf.png) (3DM) FancyPants 77 (https://i.imgur.com/Ufj5CEf.png) (9teLieb) Fritz 77 (https://i.imgur.com/Ufj5CEf.png) (45e) Nappy 76 (https://i.imgur.com/Ufj5CEf.png) (63e) Offizer 76 (https://i.imgur.com/Ufj5CEf.png) (40th) Locust 76 (https://i.imgur.com/Ufj5CEf.png) (Nr37) Waste 75 (https://i.imgur.com/Ufj5CEf.png) (Nr7) Deadeye 75 (https://i.imgur.com/Ufj5CEf.png) (4th) Nico 75 (https://i.imgur.com/Ufj5CEf.png) (111e) Marceaux 75 (https://i.imgur.com/Ufj5CEf.png) (87th) Potus 75 (https://i.imgur.com/5Rx45s4.png) (PSG) Windflower 75 (https://i.imgur.com/Ufj5CEf.png) (3eVolt) Nova Poison 74 (https://i.imgur.com/Ufj5CEf.png) (14th) Wardop/Deg 74 (https://i.imgur.com/Ufj5CEf.png) (27th) Newkirk 74 (https://i.imgur.com/Ufj5CEf.png) (79th) Armystrong Reasoning Karth/Offizer They are not the greatest regiment of all time in terms of skill, but I'd say their leaders might be. Even with low melee skill the 63e can dominate other regiments as the leaders pretty excellent tactically. [close] Tico/Breaches These guys held the spot of best regiment for at least 3 years straight. However they always have had some of the best meleers in the game, so we don't know what the regiment might have been like with less skilled melee. Because of that they are slightly below Karth/Offizer. [close] AsianP Old school leader known universally, every regiment he leads will compete for top 3 regiments, and has held top 1 most notably during the 79th days. Has always had some of the best melee players in the game, so like Tico+Breaches, I put Asian below Karth. [close] Grimsight Lead only contending regiment against the 12th during their reign. Pioneered some new tactics that you see used in every 1v1 these days. [close] CheeseyPants Cheesey lead his regiment to be the top regiment for a short period of time and won Season 3 NWL. However things slowed down after some key melee players went inactive/left. [close] Lawbringer Lawbringer created a very serious contending regiment, springing up almost out of no where. They did well under his leadership, I would note that they had some very very good melee players to rely on however (Many of their regulars came from a native clan) [close] Alexander Won the TNWL with some great leading. Would have to see them reign longer to be higher on this list though. [close] Stox Stox wasn't very interested in competitive linebattle, it was more Locust & DrBYeByes doing. Regardless they did quite well in 1v1s. Note that they did have a huge amount of players to choose from for their 1v1s. [close] Millander One of the great leaders of the early days of NW, and lead the guys who created the 9y. However there wasn't as much of a focus on 1v1s so we can't know how he would do these days. [close] Ody Through all the hate he gets, hes a decent leader. Crutched on melee during some periods though. [close] [close] [close] |
REGIMENT HALL OF FAME ____________________________________________Spoiler
Competitive Record: Unknown Key Players DragonPuff Redrum Steven Trophy Case (https://cdn2.iconfinder.com/data/icons/ledicons/trophy.png) x1 Groupfighting Tournaments (https://cdn2.iconfinder.com/data/icons/ledicons/trophy.png) NWL Season 2 League 1 (https://cdn2.iconfinder.com/data/icons/ledicons/trophy.png) NWL Season 4 League 1 (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ficons.iconarchive.com%2Ficons%2Fled24.de%2Fled%2F16%2Ftrophy-silver-icon.png&hash=74a982e4467562c9c302b6f23d674033e6c42eec) NWL Season 1 League 1 (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ficons.iconarchive.com%2Ficons%2Fled24.de%2Fled%2F16%2Ftrophy-silver-icon.png&hash=74a982e4467562c9c302b6f23d674033e6c42eec) NWL Season 3 League 1
Competitive Record: 173 Victories - 19 Defeats - 4 Ties Key Players RussianFury Jackie Blade Trophy Case (https://cdn2.iconfinder.com/data/icons/ledicons/trophy.png) NWL Season 3 League 1 (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ficons.iconarchive.com%2Ficons%2Fled24.de%2Fled%2F16%2Ftrophy-silver-icon.png&hash=74a982e4467562c9c302b6f23d674033e6c42eec) NWL Season 4 League 1
Competitive Record: Unknown Key Players Point Blank AP0CALYPS3 Lithios
Competitive Record: Unknown Key Players Coconut Darth Jezus Ramzey Other Incarnations 21ème Régiment d'Infanterie de Ligne(Later) 15ème Voltigeurs de la Garde Imperiale(Later) [close] |
I barely had any part of the making of this list FYI
where the F WORD is gtaman
where the F WORD is gtaman
where the F WORD is gtaman
Godfreid can’t groupfightGodfried is as good of a groupfighter as Maple is.
Has anyone actually seen Russian duel?
If you really want to break things down in terms of groupfights, I can find you some pretty impressive RussianFury statistics the level of which haven’t been attained since Jackie’s mad carries of the 12th and 71st.I love statistics
he lost to Kovy in Mack’s tournament back in 2016. There doesn’t seem to be that many duel tournaments in the past 2 years and godfreid didn’t even sign up for all of them. But we already know he is a great duelist so it doesn’t really matter. The real question is can he groupfight?Has anyone actually seen Russian duel?
Here's the recent 3v3 that russian lost to godfreid https://challonge.com/mrwveffx . I don't think godfreid has lost a duel tournament in the past 2 years lol.
And here's russian losing first round to suns https://challonge.com/ogmudbone60
Exposed
I love you, dad.If you really want to break things down in terms of groupfights, I can find you some pretty impressive RussianFury statistics the level of which haven’t been attained since Jackie’s mad carries of the 12th and 71st.I love statistics
If you really want to break things down in terms of groupfights, I can find you some pretty impressive RussianFury statistics the level of which haven’t been attained since Jackie’s mad carries of the 12th and 71st.
Has anyone actually seen Russian duel?We ft7'd like 3 years ago. He wasn't bad at all. Have not seen him recently tho, maybe in some tournaments that I do not remember. I feel like if he did go out and duel he would be alright at it, but it seems he doesn't like to ft7 anymore.
Russian's been carrying his regiments long before the 45e, and long afterwards. To dispute that is to be either delusional or unaware.If you really want to break things down in terms of groupfights, I can find you some pretty impressive RussianFury statistics the level of which haven’t been attained since Jackie’s mad carries of the 12th and 71st.
Godfreid at one point had like a 60+ win streak in ft7s.
Russian depended on the 45e to carry his reg against the 3eVolt. Nuff said
Russian's been carrying his regiments long before the 45e, and long afterwards. To dispute that is to be either delusional or unaware.If you really want to break things down in terms of groupfights, I can find you some pretty impressive RussianFury statistics the level of which haven’t been attained since Jackie’s mad carries of the 12th and 71st.
Godfreid at one point had like a 60+ win streak in ft7s.
Russian depended on the 45e to carry his reg against the 3eVolt. Nuff said
and yet Russian top fragged and top frags with and without them. ??? You wanna see some screens or what?Russian's been carrying his regiments long before the 45e, and long afterwards. To dispute that is to be either delusional or unaware.If you really want to break things down in terms of groupfights, I can find you some pretty impressive RussianFury statistics the level of which haven’t been attained since Jackie’s mad carries of the 12th and 71st.
Godfreid at one point had like a 60+ win streak in ft7s.
Russian depended on the 45e to carry his reg against the 3eVolt. Nuff said
The 45e carried LG/Russian against the 3eVolt.
In the podcast russian even says so himself that he needed them.
This is all extremely subjective. But for leading, I'd be interested if you gave 10 crappy noobs with one leader, and 10 crappy noobs with another, and did a 1v1, who would win? Not that I'm not biased, but Irish always had pretty bad skill-wise overall groups, yet he could win mid-leagues and even beat some tier1 regs once in awhile in a non-league 1v1.
This is all extremely subjective. But for leading, I'd be interested if you gave 10 crappy noobs with one leader, and 10 crappy noobs with another, and did a 1v1, who would win? Not that I'm not biased, but CommissarJDF always had pretty bad skill-wise overall groups, yet he could win mid-leagues and even beat some tier1 regs once in awhile in a non-league 1v1.I'd say Karth, Asian, Tico, Alexander, and JDF are the best pure leaders. Karth and JDF for what their teams lacked skill wise they made up for with great leading. Also they led the two biggest regiments in NW for a while if you want to factor in running a regiment also and not just pure leading in 1v1s.
Where the LG atright, we went 15-0 in 1v1's after the merge hehe
JDF is the best of all time. End of discussion.JDF must be a weird acronym for Karth.
and yet Russian top fragged and top frags with and without them. ??? You wanna see some screens or what?Russian's been carrying his regiments long before the 45e, and long afterwards. To dispute that is to be either delusional or unaware.If you really want to break things down in terms of groupfights, I can find you some pretty impressive RussianFury statistics the level of which haven’t been attained since Jackie’s mad carries of the 12th and 71st.
Godfreid at one point had like a 60+ win streak in ft7s.
Russian depended on the 45e to carry his reg against the 3eVolt. Nuff said
The 45e carried LG/Russian against the 3eVolt.
In the podcast russian even says so himself that he needed them.
godfreid. cant. groupfight. well.
He can only perform well in small tournament team matches, like 2v2 or 3v3 but actual 15+ player matches and he doesn't compare to players like Russian.
You can play your turtle game all you want and think you're a god but group fighting will always matter more than dueling
godfreid. cant. groupfight. well.
He can only perform well in small tournament team matches, like 2v2 or 3v3 but actual 15+ player matches and he doesn't compare to players like Russian.
You can play your turtle game all you want and think you're a god but group fighting will always matter more than dueling
And I am now better than you at gf'ing. Any thing else to say overrated Noob?
List almost as inflated as Ap0c's cholesterol levels. You are out of your mind if you think Sleek is a better meleer all-time than me, especially considering I 7-3ed him recently. Furthermore, Matt has no right to be above me since I 7-3ed him twice recently as well. This list is absurd.
List almost as inflated as Ap0c's cholesterol levels. You are out of your mind if you think Sleek is a better meleer all-time than me, especially considering I 7-3ed him recently. Furthermore, Matt has no right to be above me since I 7-3ed him twice recently as well. This list is absurd.
Matts getting medically discharged from the Army for being a pussy so he joined the NW army instead 8) ::) ;)List almost as inflated as Ap0c's cholesterol levels. You are out of your mind if you think Sleek is a better meleer all-time than me, especially considering I 7-3ed him recently. Furthermore, Matt has no right to be above me since I 7-3ed him twice recently as well. This list is absurd.
You 7-3d me about a month ago before I changed my fps to 200 and I instantly got 10x better. You were afraid to ft7 me last night and back up your shit talk, no surprise there.
Also I outfragged you with our gf vs the 71st and I also dropped 40 last night. Please stfu and just ft7 me so I can 7-2 you.
Has anyone actually seen Russian duel?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-4wghukC7w&t=3s
MATT definitely deserves to be on the all time list but making him the same rating as Ghost is crazy.idk how he got higher than me ive been good since 2012 and the dudes only been playing for like a week the current rating makes sense but the all time is really dumb xD
move suns and matt down since i beat them both in a ft7 yesterday
thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah it's nothing against his skill, it's just he still the new guy on the block so to speak.MATT definitely deserves to be on the all time list but making him the same rating as Ghost is crazy.idk how he got higher than me ive been good since 2012 and the dudes only been playing for like a week the current rating makes sense but the all time is really dumb xD
Yeah it's nothing against his skill, it's just he still the new guy on the block so to speak.MATT definitely deserves to be on the all time list but making him the same rating as Ghost is crazy.idk how he got higher than me ive been good since 2012 and the dudes only been playing for like a week the current rating makes sense but the all time is really dumb xD
realistically if he is put on the all time it should be 82 even though many of those players deserve to be on the all time much more than himYeah it's nothing against his skill, it's just he still the new guy on the block so to speak.MATT definitely deserves to be on the all time list but making him the same rating as Ghost is crazy.idk how he got higher than me ive been good since 2012 and the dudes only been playing for like a week the current rating makes sense but the all time is really dumb xD
Everything turns into a dick measuring contest with you, like holy fuckYeah it's nothing against his skill, it's just he still the new guy on the block so to speak.MATT definitely deserves to be on the all time list but making him the same rating as Ghost is crazy.idk how he got higher than me ive been good since 2012 and the dudes only been playing for like a week the current rating makes sense but the all time is really dumb xD
MATT's been here for over a year now, i havent seen you playing consistently since 2012 tf u mean
I really do not care about the current melee list as I see it as just a salt machine and everyone's way to meme someone else. I only get really upset about the all-time melee list as I see it as whoever is there helping creating the list absolutely overrates certain individuals.SpoilerWhile i'm hear I may as well "critique" this new edition to the all-time list. How in the living hell was Godfreid moved from an 86-92 while I only moved by 1 point myself. People like Ghost who absoulte is 10x times better than Godfreid who I can actually see in a groupfight making a difference is someone who should be back at the top. When I see people such as Godfreid and Maple I literally laugh at them and tell two people to duel them and they are useless for the entire round. Just because getting some kills by backstabbing doesn't mean it's entirely skilless, rather, the ability to get in that position is more impressive than actually killing the person. For the past 3 years as some may agree with me I was able to dominate the entire spectrum of groupfighting and linebattle groupfighting. Enemy teams would call me out where I was or me getting shot in linebattles because of the type of impact I was able to create. I've never seen Godfreid or Maple come anywhere close to the level people like Breaches, Ghost, Zorkoth, and now myself. I don't know where this emphasis on dueling ever came from. As from what I remember in 2012-2014 no one gave a flying fuck about your ft7 score against someone else. They only cared if you were able to make a bigger impact in events. Now looking at the current melee list I see why i'm a 90. Also don't I at least get a spotlight in the leading portion of this list? I mean, I think I've proved myself being able to lead capably (without stacks). Look at NWL S7 or even right now.
I will end it with this question. What do you use more in linebattles, regimental groupfights, groupfighting tournaments, and dueling tournaments? Well two of them already say which one you do use. I'll make it easier saying it's linebattles as well.[close]
SpoilerI really do not care about the current melee list as I see it as just a salt machine and everyone's way to meme someone else. I only get really upset about the all-time melee list as I see it as whoever is there helping creating the list absolutely overrates certain individuals.SpoilerWhile i'm hear I may as well "critique" this new edition to the all-time list. How in the living hell was Godfreid moved from an 86-92 while I only moved by 1 point myself. People like Ghost who absoulte is 10x times better than Godfreid who I can actually see in a groupfight making a difference is someone who should be back at the top. When I see people such as Godfreid and Maple I literally laugh at them and tell two people to duel them and they are useless for the entire round. Just because getting some kills by backstabbing doesn't mean it's entirely skilless, rather, the ability to get in that position is more impressive than actually killing the person. For the past 3 years as some may agree with me I was able to dominate the entire spectrum of groupfighting and linebattle groupfighting. Enemy teams would call me out where I was or me getting shot in linebattles because of the type of impact I was able to create. I've never seen Godfreid or Maple come anywhere close to the level people like Breaches, Ghost, Zorkoth, and now myself. I don't know where this emphasis on dueling ever came from. As from what I remember in 2012-2014 no one gave a flying fuck about your ft7 score against someone else. They only cared if you were able to make a bigger impact in events. Now looking at the current melee list I see why i'm a 90. Also don't I at least get a spotlight in the leading portion of this list? I mean, I think I've proved myself being able to lead capably (without stacks). Look at NWL S7 or even right now.
I will end it with this question. What do you use more in linebattles, regimental groupfights, groupfighting tournaments, and dueling tournaments? Well two of them already say which one you do use. I'll make it easier saying it's linebattles as well.[close][close]
The difference between us is, over the years, I've enjoyed successes in both groupfighting and dueling tournaments often times without the level of a stack I see with your teams (Literally, Liquid, Dan and I only lost 5-7 to you, waste and Yoshie), while you've only ever had success in groupfighting side. There are a plethora of examples of me having a high impact in 1v1's and groupfights over the years, and regiments I've played for have also benefitted greatly from my contributions, but your attempt at lowballing me is amusing. That tactic you've mentioned has very rarely ever been used against me, and has never actually worked against me. The only time I spend a significant amount of time away from the main melee is when I have 2-4 people on me, as it allows me to waste their time, giving my own team a chance to press their number advantages elsewhere.
I actually usually do very well KD wise in groupfights and much more so in 1v1's (especially when I'm not an officer), but I also usually get overshadowed by players like Asian (for good reason).
Everything turns into a dick measuring contest with you, like holy fuckYeah it's nothing against his skill, it's just he still the new guy on the block so to speak.MATT definitely deserves to be on the all time list but making him the same rating as Ghost is crazy.idk how he got higher than me ive been good since 2012 and the dudes only been playing for like a week the current rating makes sense but the all time is really dumb xD
MATT's been here for over a year now, i havent seen you playing consistently since 2012 tf u mean
Godfreid I love you but I think you greatly overestimate your impact in groupfights
Godfreid I love you but I think you greatly overestimate your impact in groupfights
I mean, if you talk about how things currently are, sure. But over the last few years? Not at all. Anyone from the 1er/3eVolt would say I was definitely a key player.
yep 4th rank speaking hereGodfreid I love you but I think you greatly overestimate your impact in groupfights
I mean, if you talk about how things currently are, sure. But over the last few years? Not at all. Anyone from the 1er/3eVolt would say I was definitely a key player.
yeah yep he was, 3eVolt CplFoP speaking here
Bruce Lee can confirm that godfreid was the carry in the 4th with Tammo at times.Godfreid I love you but I think you greatly overestimate your impact in groupfights
I mean, if you talk about how things currently are, sure. But over the last few years? Not at all. Anyone from the 1er/3eVolt or the 4th/98th would say I was definitely a key player.
Moving pb down lol
I really do not care about the current melee list as I see it as just a salt machine and everyone's way to meme someone else. I only get really upset about the all-time melee list as I see it as whoever is there helping creating the list absolutely overrates certain individuals.SpoilerWhile i'm hear I may as well "critique" this new edition to the all-time list. How in the living hell was Godfreid moved from an 86-92 while I only moved by 1 point myself. People like Ghost who absoulte is 10x times better than Godfreid who I can actually see in a groupfight making a difference is someone who should be back at the top. When I see people such as Godfreid and Maple I literally laugh at them and tell two people to duel them and they are useless for the entire round. Just because getting some kills by backstabbing doesn't mean it's entirely skilless, rather, the ability to get in that position is more impressive than actually killing the person. For the past 3 years as some may agree with me I was able to dominate the entire spectrum of groupfighting and linebattle groupfighting. Enemy teams would call me out where I was or me getting shot in linebattles because of the type of impact I was able to create. I've never seen Godfreid or Maple come anywhere close to the level people like Breaches, Ghost, Zorkoth, and now myself. I don't know where this emphasis on dueling ever came from. As from what I remember in 2012-2014 no one gave a flying fuck about your ft7 score against someone else. They only cared if you were able to make a bigger impact in events. Now looking at the current melee list I see why i'm a 90. Also don't I at least get a spotlight in the leading portion of this list? I mean, I think I've proved myself being able to lead capably (without stacks). Look at NWL S7 or even right now.
I will end it with this question. What do you use more in linebattles, regimental groupfights, groupfighting tournaments, and dueling tournaments? Well two of them already say which one you do use. I'll make it easier saying it's linebattles as well.[close]
Name this player:
• dominant in his sector of melee for two+ years
• undisputed and often consensus #1 in that sector
• level of consistency and success that can only be matched by legends such as Ghost and Jackie
• competent and impactful in the other melee field, but so incredibly good at the one that a 90+ rating is well deserved
Who am I talking about?
Maple and Russian. If we’re talking about overall well-roundedness, they’re both speciality players in the high 80’s. But since you’ve moved another comparable, Godfried, up, and moved Maple up past other significant legends, it blows my mind that you’re underselling Russian as well.
It’s like you’ve been gone for 2 years and didn’t see someone carry himself to NA’s top 5 all time groupfighters in an era of parity
Owait you were gone
This is all extremely subjective. But for leading, I'd be interested if you gave 10 crappy noobs with one leader, and 10 crappy noobs with another, and did a 1v1, who would win? Not that I'm not biased, but CommissarJDF always had pretty bad skill-wise overall groups, yet he could win mid-leagues and even beat some tier1 regs once in awhile in a non-league 1v1.
godfreid. cant. groupfight. well.
He can only perform well in small tournament team matches, like 2v2 or 3v3 but actual 15+ player matches and he doesn't compare to players like Russian.
You can play your turtle game all you want and think you're a god but group fighting will always matter more than dueling
Bill, Kovy, Suns, Russian are being underrated on the all-time list.
Will updates be made daily like farts or will it stay how it is? Btw good list
Jesus Christ you animalsWelcome to the world of lists my friend.
I go to sleep expecting one or two pages and I wake up to 6 pages
And I only got like 6 hours of sleep
One sec as I go through this shit
Not all sectors are equal and not all years are equal. Change my mind.If you mean groupfighting and dueling aren't worth rating equally, then why derive worth from it in the first place? If it's less equal than dueling is, than there is no excuse for Godfried to not be in the top 5 on this list, you are not in the top 5, Achilles and Havoc should go way up, and Tammo shouldn't be one under Jackie, he should be the same score. But clearly you're taking groupfighting into account, which means you have some sort of arbitrary percentage that it factors into scores. Either way, not giving groupfighting and dueling equal worth is both A) a personal choice, for sure not a consensus or agreed upon point, which means that your list is, as tired said, extremely subjective and rather devoid of empricial legitmacy.
QuoteNot all sectors are equal and not all years are equal. Change my mind.If you mean groupfighting and dueling aren't worth rating equally, then why derive worth from it in the first place? If it's less equal than dueling is, than there is no excuse for Godfried to not be in the top 5 on this list, you are not in the top 5, Achilles and Havoc should go way up, and Tammo shouldn't be one under Jackie, he should be the same score. But clearly you're taking groupfighting into account, which means you have some sort of arbitrary percentage that it factors into scores. Either way, not giving groupfighting and dueling equal worth is both A) a personal choice, for sure not a consensus or agreed upon point, which means that your list is, as tired said, extremely subjective and rather devoid of empricial legitmacy.
For the years thing, of course not all years are equal. But, even though PointBlank and Maple never faced at peaks, you have Maple rated above him, which, if used in a groupfighting context, is comparable to Lithios and Havoc at thier peaks. In fact, you seem to era adjust towards the last few years, rather than the first few, which makes it even more remarkable that Russian is rated as low as he is.
Either way, your list has dubious criteria and seems to be excessively personal. I mean, 2/3 of you put yourselves up significantly, which is a red flag.
Then your list has no legitimacy if you straight up don’t value groupfighting as much as dueling. I guess we shouldn’t do group fights or 1v1s guys, apparently dueling is much more important. Fun fun!
I wasn’t there in your peak. Where were you in Russian’s?
So will updates with rankings be made daily or is this official?
APOC U FAT FUCK WHERE IS THE LG ON THIS LIST U DUMB WHIPPER SNAPPER
LG is a poor mans 18th.APOC U FAT FUCK WHERE IS THE LG ON THIS LIST U DUMB WHIPPER SNAPPER
in the dumpster
Then your list has no legitimacy if you straight up don’t value groupfighting as much as dueling. I guess we shouldn’t do group fights or 1v1s guys, apparently dueling is much more important. Fun fun!
I wasn’t there in your peak. Where were you in Russian’s?
Theodin I am gonna warn you now cause I love you but you are getting this close to triggering me.
I will proceed to administer the hands again just like the previous post if you don't stop shilling for Russian.
He got a bump to 89. He is just under the very best players the game has ever seen despite the fact that he essentially has 0 dueling success. I might not value groupfighting as much as dueling, but if thats not seeing it as pretty dang valuable I don't know what is.
I don't get your 'all or nothing attitude' here. I don't think dueling and groupfighting are equally valuable in determining player skill for sure. But to say some snide shit like 'Oh lul I guess we shouldn't do 1v1s or groupfights' as a result? You are just being absolutely absurd. All the players in the 90s have success at BOTH, with the top player being the most successful at BOTH. Theres a meme that Godfreid can't groupfight, but you can't deny he has won Groupfighting tournaments and has performed well in groupfights. He has had success at BOTH. Can Russian say the same? Not really. Hes beaten a few good people in FT7s and hes a good duelist for sure, but not enough to put him over the line.
Now this is gonna be the end of the story or the next post is gonna be an essay.
alright well dad told me not to argue so have fun with your incredibly flawed and personal list
I just want to say it's a bit ridiculous to think that after a two year hiatus you think your analysis is accurate in any remote way.
but I still love you
why isnt 98e on the list we beat 60eTalk to me when you beat the 1eKM kiddo
it's a bit ridiculous to think that after a two year hiatus you think your analysis is accurate in any remote way.
you mean godfreid and maple?it's a bit ridiculous to think that after a two year hiatus you think your analysis is accurate in any remote way.
Maybe its like I, who have pretty extensive knowledge of players from 2012-2016, actually talked to people and perhaps had several people who had a good idea of what happened these past two years and could fill the gap in my knowledge sitting in a Teamspeak channel with me to help me form an educated opinion, along with having one of them literally make a current list right in front of me, which I would just copy and paste that exact list onto this thread and then source him as its author.
But you know, maybe this list is just far too personal and flawed.
you mean godfreid and maple?it's a bit ridiculous to think that after a two year hiatus you think your analysis is accurate in any remote way.
Maybe its like I, who have pretty extensive knowledge of players from 2012-2016, actually talked to people and perhaps had several people who had a good idea of what happened these past two years and could fill the gap in my knowledge sitting in a Teamspeak channel with me to help me form an educated opinion, along with having one of them literally make a current list right in front of me, which I would just copy and paste that exact list onto this thread and then source him as its author.
But you know, maybe this list is just far too personal and flawed.
you mean godfreid and maple?it's a bit ridiculous to think that after a two year hiatus you think your analysis is accurate in any remote way.
Maybe its like I, who have pretty extensive knowledge of players from 2012-2016, actually talked to people and perhaps had several people who had a good idea of what happened these past two years and could fill the gap in my knowledge sitting in a Teamspeak channel with me to help me form an educated opinion, along with having one of them literally make a current list right in front of me, which I would just copy and paste that exact list onto this thread and then source him as its author.
But you know, maybe this list is just far too personal and flawed.
No I mean Pointblank and GTAman
You've got 3 duel supremacists, you're all using the same philosophyit's a bit ridiculous to think that after a two year hiatus you think your analysis is accurate in any remote way.
Maybe its like I, who have pretty extensive knowledge of players from 2012-2016, actually talked to people and perhaps had several people who had a good idea of what happened these past two years and could fill the gap in my knowledge sitting in a Teamspeak channel with me to help me form an educated opinion, along with having one of them literally make a current list right in front of me, which I would just copy and paste that exact list onto this thread and then source him as its author.
But you know, maybe this list is just far too personal and flawed.
You've got 3 duel supremacists, you're all using the same philosophyit's a bit ridiculous to think that after a two year hiatus you think your analysis is accurate in any remote way.
Maybe its like I, who have pretty extensive knowledge of players from 2012-2016, actually talked to people and perhaps had several people who had a good idea of what happened these past two years and could fill the gap in my knowledge sitting in a Teamspeak channel with me to help me form an educated opinion, along with having one of them literally make a current list right in front of me, which I would just copy and paste that exact list onto this thread and then source him as its author.
But you know, maybe this list is just far too personal and flawed.
D I V E R S I T Y O F I D E A S
yea, that's my point dawg. Duel centric lists = flawed lists. You're never going to find consensus in the community whether groupfighting or dueling is more important, so anyone that foists one over the other and rates people on that assumption will always come out with bizarre lists that value duelists higher than groupfighters. Hence why Maple is 90+ and Russian isn't.You've got 3 duel supremacists, you're all using the same philosophyit's a bit ridiculous to think that after a two year hiatus you think your analysis is accurate in any remote way.
Maybe its like I, who have pretty extensive knowledge of players from 2012-2016, actually talked to people and perhaps had several people who had a good idea of what happened these past two years and could fill the gap in my knowledge sitting in a Teamspeak channel with me to help me form an educated opinion, along with having one of them literally make a current list right in front of me, which I would just copy and paste that exact list onto this thread and then source him as its author.
But you know, maybe this list is just far too personal and flawed.
D I V E R S I T Y O F I D E A S
Dueling is raw individual skill and literally nothing else. Groupfighting has alot more than just individual skill in play. Why should I value groupfighting more than dueling on a list about individual skill? That makes 0 sense.
yea, that's my point dawg. Duel centric lists = flawed lists. You're never going to find consensus in the community whether groupfighting or dueling is more important, so anyone that foists one over the other and rates people on that assumption will always come out with bizarre lists that value duelists higher than groupfighters. Hence why Maple is 90+ and Russian isn't.You've got 3 duel supremacists, you're all using the same philosophyit's a bit ridiculous to think that after a two year hiatus you think your analysis is accurate in any remote way.
Maybe its like I, who have pretty extensive knowledge of players from 2012-2016, actually talked to people and perhaps had several people who had a good idea of what happened these past two years and could fill the gap in my knowledge sitting in a Teamspeak channel with me to help me form an educated opinion, along with having one of them literally make a current list right in front of me, which I would just copy and paste that exact list onto this thread and then source him as its author.
But you know, maybe this list is just far too personal and flawed.
D I V E R S I T Y O F I D E A S
Dueling is raw individual skill and literally nothing else. Groupfighting has alot more than just individual skill in play. Why should I value groupfighting more than dueling on a list about individual skill? That makes 0 sense.
But again, dad says I need to stop arguing. Instead, convince me that Ghost is somehow not a 90.
Wow Zork took a heavy hit. Guess being the best fister in history wasn't enough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luy4K3ZBZK8
Players who win duel tournaments tend to find the most success at both groupfighting and dueling historically for a reason.This has not been the case for a long time. A player like Fireboy doesn't win duel tournaments, but is a force in groupfighting. Same with Russian, same with DJ, it was like that with PJ, and Krastinov, and a plethora of others. Sure, lots of times good duelists do fairly well in groupfighting, but the correlation is for sure not the 1 to 1 you present it as.
If you put the 5 most stacked 'Duelists' into a tournament together on a 5v5 team, I would vote them as the favorites to win over the 5 best 'Groupfighters'.Wanna test this statement?
Not only that, its hard to even objectively say who is a better groupfighter. Like for example, I wanted to know who was a better groupfighter between Asian and Russian. How the hell would I find out?This is like the argument that there isn't "styles" in NW. To tell who the better groupfighter is is as complicated as telling who the better duelist is - if the skill disparity is small, FT7's will just traded, close, or just not matter. Am I better than BabyJ, who's currently 3-1 against me? Or do the contrasting styles mean skill disparty isn't easy to figure out at all?
There are way too many factors outside of just an individual to account for.Which should mean your analysis of the problem should be more in depth rather than dismiss it entirely. It's not like groupfighting is voodoo magic; the same couple names are tossed around as the best groupfighters right now and all-time, so why should they be moved down so easily?
You are smarter than this.*insert link to book here*
So yeah, I will invite the 'duel supremecists' to help me workshop out an accurate and objective list, because the 'groupfighting supremecists' are just objectively wrong.I mean, the usage of objective and subjective are sketchy here, but I often find it's hard to assert that something is objectively true if your argument is that a certain subset of subjectivists argue that their subjective argument is actually objective. It's almost like things are more complex than simply saying "you're objectively wrong".
Theodin sucks for the amount of hours he has on the game, his word should honestly have little valueyou mean all theo does is make high IQ plays most people cant?
How can you assert that gf'ing requires:
Technical skill
Ability to read opponents weaknesses
Footwork and timing
Positioning within the fight
Team Play
Consistency - fragging wise and decision-making wise
When all you do is hold a down stab, updown people, and sidestep spam. That is you theodin. That is all you do. After 3k hours on the game, and like 6 years, that is all you are still able to do. "those who can't do, teach" has never been more apparent than with you
Theodin sucks for the amount of hours he has on the game, his word should honestly have little valueyou mean all theo does is make high IQ plays most people cant?
How can you assert that gf'ing requires:
Technical skill
Ability to read opponents weaknesses
Footwork and timing
Positioning within the fight
Team Play
Consistency - fragging wise and decision-making wise
When all you do is hold a down stab, updown people, and sidestep spam. That is you theodin. That is all you do. After 3k hours on the game, and like 6 years, that is all you are still able to do. "those who can't do, teach" has never been more apparent than with you
This has not been the case for a long time. A player like Fireboy doesn't win duel tournaments, but is a force in groupfighting. Same with Russian, same with DJ, it was like that with PJ, and Krastinov, and a plethora of others. Sure, lots of times good duelists do fairly well in groupfighting, but the correlation is for sure not the 1 to 1 you present it as.
Wanna test this statement?
This is like the argument that there isn't "styles" in NW. To tell who the better groupfighter is is as complicated as telling who the better duelist is - if the skill disparity is small, FT7's will just traded, close, or just not matter. Am I better than BabyJ, who's currently 3-1 against me? Or do the contrasting styles mean skill disparty isn't easy to figure out at all?
The criteria to figure out who's better at groupfighting is the same as the dueling criteria, but just more points added:
- Technical skill
- Ability to read opponents weaknesses
- Footwork and timing
- Positioning within the fight
- Team Play
- Consistency - fragging wise and decision-making wise
Which should mean your analysis of the problem should be more in depth rather than dismiss it entirely. It's not like groupfighting is voodoo magic; the same couple names are tossed around as the best groupfighters right now and all-time, so why should they be moved down so easily?
*insert link to book here*
I mean, the usage of objective and subjective are sketchy here, but I often find it's hard to assert that something is objectively true if your argument is that a certain subset of subjectivists argue that their subjective argument is actually objective. It's almost like things are more complex than simply saying "you're objectively wrong".
Godfreid I love you but I think you greatly overestimate your impact in groupfights
I mean, if you talk about how things currently are, sure. But over the last few years? Not at all. Anyone from the 1er/3eVolt would say I was definitely a key player.
yeah yep he was, 3eVolt CplFoP speaking here
I block sometimes
the only thing that can tilt me is the fact that godfreid beat me in a duel tourney when I was up 6-0
fuck you godfreid you autoblocking sCUM!
Godfreid I love you but I think you greatly overestimate your impact in groupfights
I mean, if you talk about how things currently are, sure. But over the last few years? Not at all. Anyone from the 1er/3eVolt would say I was definitely a key player.
yeah yep he was, 3eVolt CplFoP speaking here
....By default? I never thought Godfreid was that key in GFs.
I block sometimes
the only thing that can tilt me is the fact that godfreid beat me in a duel tourney when I was up 6-0
fuck you godfreid you autoblocking sCUM!
lolGodfreid I love you but I think you greatly overestimate your impact in groupfights
I mean, if you talk about how things currently are, sure. But over the last few years? Not at all. Anyone from the 1er/3eVolt would say I was definitely a key player.
yeah yep he was, 3eVolt CplFoP speaking here
....By default? I never thought Godfreid was that key in GFs.
The other 99% of 1er/3e disagrees with you, but ok.
SpoilerI block sometimes
the only thing that can tilt me is the fact that godfreid beat me in a duel tourney when I was up 6-0
fuck you godfreid you autoblocking sCUM!
lolGodfreid I love you but I think you greatly overestimate your impact in groupfights
I mean, if you talk about how things currently are, sure. But over the last few years? Not at all. Anyone from the 1er/3eVolt would say I was definitely a key player.
yeah yep he was, 3eVolt CplFoP speaking here
....By default? I never thought Godfreid was that key in GFs.
The other 99% of 1er/3e disagrees with you, but ok.[close]
key s keyer away from the gf until hes the last one then loses the 1v3 yes
Anyone can become a good duelist if they just play duel a lot. Though people that gf a lot still tend to get stuck at the same level.My IQ isn't high enough to understand your statement.
You don't have to think at all when dueling you can mindlessly do it and still be good. Groupfighting you have to think about if you want to be good.
Look at MATT, he sucked at everything, then he spent hours everyday only dueling and he challenged people constantly to duels...he got really good at dueling no surprise there. He still wasn't a top groupfighter when I left though.
Morale of this really random story that doesn't really mean anything, anyone can become a good duelist if they just practice a lot, to become a good groupfighter you don't need to practice a lot (though it helps) you just need to learn what is smart and what isn't which is tough. That's why a lot of the times, in my experience at least, when you come back after not playing for awhile you'll be pretty good, then you'll get comfortable and you'll start to do worse. You need to always be thinking in groupfights, you can't just mindlessly run around and expect to do good
Does any of what I just said make sense? I have no idea and I don't care to proof read it, also i havent played in 5 months so wtf do I knowt
Put LG on the list
Anyone can become a good duelist if they just play duel a lot. Though people that gf a lot still tend to get stuck at the same level.
You don't have to think at all when dueling you can mindlessly do it and still be good. Groupfighting you have to think about if you want to be good.
Look at MATT, he sucked at everything, then he spent hours everyday only dueling and he challenged people constantly to duels...he got really good at dueling no surprise there. He still wasn't a top groupfighter when I left though.
Morale of this really random story that doesn't really mean anything, anyone can become a good duelist if they just practice a lot, to become a good groupfighter you don't need to practice a lot (though it helps) you just need to learn what is smart and what isn't which is tough. That's why a lot of the times, in my experience at least, when you come back after not playing for awhile you'll be pretty good, then you'll get comfortable and you'll start to do worse. You need to always be thinking in groupfights, you can't just mindlessly run around and expect to do good
Does any of what I just said make sense? I have no idea and I don't care to proof read it, also i havent played in 5 months so wtf do I knowt
Put LG on the list
Duelists = Melo, AI, Charles BarkleyDuelists = Kaepernick, Newton, Wentz, Wilson
Groupfighters = Lebron, Shaq, Kobe, MJ, Jason Kidd
Can I get a hockey translation pleaseDuelists = Melo, AI, Charles BarkleyDuelists = Kaepernick, Newton, Wentz, Wilson
Groupfighters = Lebron, Shaq, Kobe, MJ, Jason Kidd
Groupfighters = Rodgers, Manning, Brady, Big Ben
Duelists = Ovechkin, Seguin, Eric StaalCan I get a hockey translation pleaseDuelists = Melo, AI, Charles BarkleyDuelists = Kaepernick, Newton, Wentz, Wilson
Groupfighters = Lebron, Shaq, Kobe, MJ, Jason Kidd
Groupfighters = Rodgers, Manning, Brady, Big Ben
Anyone can become a good duelist if they just play duel a lot. Though people that gf a lot still tend to get stuck at the same level.holy fuk that’s actually what happens to me all the time.
You don't have to think at all when dueling you can mindlessly do it and still be good. Groupfighting you have to think about if you want to be good.
Look at MATT, he sucked at everything, then he spent hours everyday only dueling and he challenged people constantly to duels...he got really good at dueling no surprise there. He still wasn't a top groupfighter when I left though.
Morale of this really random story that doesn't really mean anything, anyone can become a good duelist if they just practice a lot, to become a good groupfighter you don't need to practice a lot (though it helps) you just need to learn what is smart and what isn't which is tough. That's why a lot of the times, in my experience at least, when you come back after not playing for awhile you'll be pretty good, then you'll get comfortable and you'll start to do worse. You need to always be thinking in groupfights, you can't just mindlessly run around and expect to do good
Does any of what I just said make sense? I have no idea and I don't care to proof read it, also i havent played in 5 months so wtf do I knowt
Put LG on the list
Roger that ghost dogAnyone can become a good duelist if they just play duel a lot. Though people that gf a lot still tend to get stuck at the same level.
You don't have to think at all when dueling you can mindlessly do it and still be good. Groupfighting you have to think about if you want to be good.
Look at MATT, he sucked at everything, then he spent hours everyday only dueling and he challenged people constantly to duels...he got really good at dueling no surprise there. He still wasn't a top groupfighter when I left though.
Morale of this really random story that doesn't really mean anything, anyone can become a good duelist if they just practice a lot, to become a good groupfighter you don't need to practice a lot (though it helps) you just need to learn what is smart and what isn't which is tough. That's why a lot of the times, in my experience at least, when you come back after not playing for awhile you'll be pretty good, then you'll get comfortable and you'll start to do worse. You need to always be thinking in groupfights, you can't just mindlessly run around and expect to do good
Does any of what I just said make sense? I have no idea and I don't care to proof read it, also i havent played in 5 months so wtf do I knowt
Put LG on the list
Waste I changed my fps from 60 to 200 and now I'm considered a Carry. Literally the day I changed my fps from 60 to 200 I went 35-19 so groupfighting is all FPS kk.
One track players vs well rounded, skilled game changers? GotchaDuelists = Ovechkin, Seguin, Eric StaalCan I get a hockey translation pleaseDuelists = Melo, AI, Charles BarkleyDuelists = Kaepernick, Newton, Wentz, Wilson
Groupfighters = Lebron, Shaq, Kobe, MJ, Jason Kidd
Groupfighters = Rodgers, Manning, Brady, Big Ben
Groupfighters = Crosby, Kane, Toews, Malkin, Kopitar, Datsyuk
theo when we gonna do that 2v2 im actually interested to see how it goesOne track players vs well rounded, skilled game changers? GotchaDuelists = Ovechkin, Seguin, Eric StaalCan I get a hockey translation pleaseDuelists = Melo, AI, Charles BarkleyDuelists = Kaepernick, Newton, Wentz, Wilson
Groupfighters = Lebron, Shaq, Kobe, MJ, Jason Kidd
Groupfighters = Rodgers, Manning, Brady, Big Ben
Groupfighters = Crosby, Kane, Toews, Malkin, Kopitar, Datsyuk
Anyone can become a good duelist if they just play duel a lot. Though people that gf a lot still tend to get stuck at the same level.
You don't have to think at all when dueling you can mindlessly do it and still be good. Groupfighting you have to think about if you want to be good.
Look at MATT, he sucked at everything, then he spent hours everyday only dueling and he challenged people constantly to duels...he got really good at dueling no surprise there. He still wasn't a top groupfighter when I left though.
Morale of this really random story that doesn't really mean anything, anyone can become a good duelist if they just practice a lot, to become a good groupfighter you don't need to practice a lot (though it helps) you just need to learn what is smart and what isn't which is tough. That's why a lot of the times, in my experience at least, when you come back after not playing for awhile you'll be pretty good, then you'll get comfortable and you'll start to do worse. You need to always be thinking in groupfights, you can't just mindlessly run around and expect to do good
Does any of what I just said make sense? I have no idea and I don't care to proof read it, also i havent played in 5 months so wtf do I knowt
Add LG
See that’s our fundamental difference
There’s a lot of little things that happen quickly that is descion-making, but you either don’t see them or prefer to be holistic
you guys are cute
I want a picture.you guys are cute
Hell yes we r
Thank you for bringing this thread back to NA apoc now I have daily material to read
I want a picture.you guys are cute
Hell yes we r
Nicole should be 97 at least btw, and bump up sanders too thx, good list tho 8):((((((((((( what about me dady
I want a picture.you guys are cute
Hell yes we r
One sec
I feel bad for russian, to give him the praise and recognition he deserves I'm gunna make my own list.Please use your mic next time we're in ts together. I want to hear that beautiful Floridan surfer boy voice.
Best Ragers NA, featuring russian at a 98 overall
I feel bad for russian, to give him the praise and recognition he deserves I'm gunna make my own list.Please use your mic next time we're in ts together. I want to hear that beautiful Floridan surfer boy voice.
Best Ragers NA, featuring russian at a 98 overall
in an EU list you'd be insanely high but ive never actually seen u play on NA soz :( maybe 94 to be humbleNicole should be 97 at least btw, and bump up sanders too thx, good list tho 8):((((((((((( what about me dady
What's wrong with wanting to listen to another mans voice?I feel bad for russian, to give him the praise and recognition he deserves I'm gunna make my own list.Please use your mic next time we're in ts together. I want to hear that beautiful Floridan surfer boy voice.
Best Ragers NA, featuring russian at a 98 overall
Motherfucker you are G A Y
I want a picture.you guys are cute
Hell yes we r
I want a picture.you guys are cute
Hell yes we r
One sec
Since you wanted a picture:Spoiler(https://i.gyazo.com/52e50c12638f14fa9c3eab8575b37d34.png)[close]
trying to roast me for my voice lmao 89 ratedWhat's wrong with wanting to listen to another mans voice?I feel bad for russian, to give him the praise and recognition he deserves I'm gunna make my own list.Please use your mic next time we're in ts together. I want to hear that beautiful Floridan surfer boy voice.
Best Ragers NA, featuring russian at a 98 overall
Motherfucker you are G A Y
Apoc youve yet to win one single duel tournament so how in the flying fuck do you consider yourself one of the best duelists with Jackie and tammo?
Bill beat asianp and godfreid both last week in ft7s and is the better gf why is he not in first spot....Oh thats right your all biased cuz you dont like him
Apoc youve yet to win one single duel tournament so how in the flying fuck do you consider yourself one of the best duelists with Jackie and tammo?Uh oh looks like Prince William made a new account
Bill beat asianp and godfreid both last week in ft7s and is the better gfer why is he not in first spot....Oh thats right youre all biased cuz you dont like him
Apoc youve yet to win one single duel tournament so how in the flying fuck do you consider yourself one of the best duelists with Jackie and tammo?
Bill beat asianp and godfreid both last week in ft7s and is the better gfer why is he not in first spot....Oh thats right youre all biased cuz you dont like him
Hey Ap0c, when I said I wanted a picture. I meant one like Jackie and everyone in the 90s or above. Not a picture of yourself :p.
I'd like to point out that Russianfury admitted in a podcast with Anthony that he NEEDED me to beat the 3eVolt in league, what does that say about my melee skill and on the all time list when I was REQUIRED to beat a regiment because of my abilities?Not just you! DONT FORGET THE OTHER 45E SLAVES U LED!!!!!!
Apoc youve yet to win one single duel tournament so how in the flying fuck do you consider yourself one of the best duelists with Jackie and tammo?
Bill beat asianp and godfreid both last week in ft7s and is the better gf why is he not in first spot....Oh thats right your all biased cuz you dont like him
Hey Bill
I've won a duel tournament and I have beaten quite a few people in the 90s, including people I have kept above myself, quite a few times.
Grats on your first duel tournament win when I was out of town visiting family, which I promptly returned from and beat you twice the day after.
Nicole should be 97 at least btw, and bump up sanders too thx, good list tho 8)Thanks dad. ;D
Apoc youve yet to win one single duel tournament so how in the flying fuck do you consider yourself one of the best duelists with Jackie and tammo?
Bill beat asianp and godfreid both last week in ft7s and is the better gf why is he not in first spot....Oh thats right your all biased cuz you dont like him
Hey Bill
I've won a duel tournament and I have beaten quite a few people in the 90s, including people I have kept above myself, quite a few times.
Grats on your first duel tournament win when I was out of town visiting family, which I promptly returned from and beat you twice the day after.
you lost to Bill the past 3 times 7-5 7-2 7-1
He basically made you quit the game
and you have never won a duel tournament in your 5-6 years of playing quit lying or show proof
you have never ever won a duel tournament.Apoc youve yet to win one single duel tournament so how in the flying fuck do you consider yourself one of the best duelists with Jackie and tammo?
Bill beat asianp and godfreid both last week in ft7s and is the better gf why is he not in first spot....Oh thats right your all biased cuz you dont like him
Hey Bill
I've won a duel tournament and I have beaten quite a few people in the 90s, including people I have kept above myself, quite a few times.
Grats on your first duel tournament win when I was out of town visiting family, which I promptly returned from and beat you twice the day after.
you lost to Bill the past 3 times 7-5 7-2 7-1
He basically made you quit the game
and you have never won a duel tournament in your 5-6 years of playing quit lying or show proof
Its almost like I had stopped playing actively and was winding down to quit the game or something. I believe I have won a tournament, granted I don't care enough about arguing with you to go and find shit. It's not like it'll change you from being who you are.
I beat Russian 7-3 and AsianP 7-6to be fair i had to leave the duel since my girlfriend was downstairs and needed me to let her in so i sped it up
Put LG on the list
I beat Russian 7-3 and AsianP 7-6
Put LG on the list
I beat Russian 7-3 and AsianP 7-6
Put LG on the list
I am 3e slayer bow downI beat Russian 7-3 and AsianP 7-6to be fair i had to leave the duel since my girlfriend was downstairs and needed me to let her in so i sped it up
Put LG on the list
also ill like to thank the PEDs for getting me where Im at.
No i will not do a piss test
I beat Russian 7-3 and AsianP 7-6
Put LG on the list
Russianfury and Waste vs AsianP and Godfreid 2v2. If Russian and Waste win LG should get a spot on the list, because reasons.
Gimme 4-5 monthsI beat Russian 7-3 and AsianP 7-6
Put LG on the list
Russianfury and Waste vs AsianP and Godfreid 2v2. If Russian and Waste win LG should get a spot on the list, because reasons.
Honestly if russianfury and waste beat AsianP and Godfreid, Russianfury can have his 90. Ill throw that in.
I'm not going to be here in 4 months lolGimme 4-5 monthsI beat Russian 7-3 and AsianP 7-6
Put LG on the list
Russianfury and Waste vs AsianP and Godfreid 2v2. If Russian and Waste win LG should get a spot on the list, because reasons.
Honestly if russianfury and waste beat AsianP and Godfreid, Russianfury can have his 90. Ill throw that in.
Well I'm not here now so i guess we're out of luckI'm not going to be here in 4 months lolGimme 4-5 monthsI beat Russian 7-3 and AsianP 7-6
Put LG on the list
Russianfury and Waste vs AsianP and Godfreid 2v2. If Russian and Waste win LG should get a spot on the list, because reasons.
Honestly if russianfury and waste beat AsianP and Godfreid, Russianfury can have his 90. Ill throw that in.
Smh I still come back here trying to compete with people who have thousands more hours on the game than me, consistent lower ping, better equipment, and consistent fps. Hell I don't even get 200 fps, fuck I get 90-170 and don't even have a mousepad. Am tempted to quitLock your fps...I hear the greatest player of all time BillTheButcher locks his at 60
Well I'm not here now so i guess we're out of luckI'm not going to be here in 4 months lolGimme 4-5 monthsI beat Russian 7-3 and AsianP 7-6
Put LG on the list
Russianfury and Waste vs AsianP and Godfreid 2v2. If Russian and Waste win LG should get a spot on the list, because reasons.
Honestly if russianfury and waste beat AsianP and Godfreid, Russianfury can have his 90. Ill throw that in.
YEAH IT WOULDWell I'm not here now so i guess we're out of luckI'm not going to be here in 4 months lolGimme 4-5 monthsI beat Russian 7-3 and AsianP 7-6
Put LG on the list
Russianfury and Waste vs AsianP and Godfreid 2v2. If Russian and Waste win LG should get a spot on the list, because reasons.
Honestly if russianfury and waste beat AsianP and Godfreid, Russianfury can have his 90. Ill throw that in.
Would appear so.
YEAH IT WOULDWell I'm not here now so i guess we're out of luckI'm not going to be here in 4 months lolGimme 4-5 monthsI beat Russian 7-3 and AsianP 7-6
Put LG on the list
Russianfury and Waste vs AsianP and Godfreid 2v2. If Russian and Waste win LG should get a spot on the list, because reasons.
Honestly if russianfury and waste beat AsianP and Godfreid, Russianfury can have his 90. Ill throw that in.
Would appear so.
Smh I still come back here trying to compete with people who have thousands more hours on the game than me, consistent lower ping, better equipment, and consistent fps. Hell I don't even get 200 fps, fuck I get 90-170 and don't even have a mousepad. Am tempted to quitLock your fps...I hear the greatest player of all time BillTheButcher locks his at 60
YEAH IT WOULDWell I'm not here now so i guess we're out of luckI'm not going to be here in 4 months lolGimme 4-5 monthsI beat Russian 7-3 and AsianP 7-6
Put LG on the list
Russianfury and Waste vs AsianP and Godfreid 2v2. If Russian and Waste win LG should get a spot on the list, because reasons.
Honestly if russianfury and waste beat AsianP and Godfreid, Russianfury can have his 90. Ill throw that in.
Would appear so.
Indeed it would
Wanna forget about the past and be friends :-*YEAH IT WOULDWell I'm not here now so i guess we're out of luckI'm not going to be here in 4 months lolGimme 4-5 monthsI beat Russian 7-3 and AsianP 7-6
Put LG on the list
Russianfury and Waste vs AsianP and Godfreid 2v2. If Russian and Waste win LG should get a spot on the list, because reasons.
Honestly if russianfury and waste beat AsianP and Godfreid, Russianfury can have his 90. Ill throw that in.
Would appear so.
Indeed it would
Smh I still come back here trying to compete with people who have thousands more hours on the game than me, consistent lower ping, better equipment, and consistent fps. Hell I don't even get 200 fps, fuck I get 90-170 and don't even have a mousepad. Am tempted to quit
14 pages on the first day of release; and they say NW is dead
97- Bill
93 - Kovy
92 - Asianp
91 - DJ
90 - Suns
88 - Havoc
85 - Anthony
85 - Russian
82 - Nickcole
82- Yoshie
more accurate.for current (past year)
Wheres kovy on the list, is he not on it because hes black?
Smh I still come back here trying to compete with people who have thousands more hours on the game than me, consistent lower ping, better equipment, and consistent fps. Hell I don't even get 200 fps, fuck I get 90-170 and don't even have a mousepad. Am tempted to quitI've been told a lot by experienced players that you should have your game capped at 150fps otherwise you get more animation glitches and you can't really tell the difference anyway... seems to be a very common opinion, if this helps you at all.... haha
Where is USMC in the regiment list. Sure they might not have won a lot of tournaments, but the impact they had in the game alongside regiments like 63e, is undeniable
That's what EU trash players say because their brains can't handle fast movements and feintsAnimation glitches = feints... Nice one
That's what EU trash players say because their brains can't handle fast movements and feintsAnimation glitches = feints... Nice one
I saw Pedro the other day like 26-4 on EU GF was hilarious these eus trying to block his feints just couldn't doit
floridan surfer boy LOLOL hickfury
Suns making abuse jokes? Questionable
Suns making abuse jokes? Questionable
theo abuse is never funny. no one who plays nw has a daddy who loved them. matt's dad hated him so much he refused to buy him a decent pc and let him join the army for four months or something. suns dad hated him so much he named him wang. your dad hated you so much he broke your right mouse button and now all you can do is down attack. leave their personal lives out of this, bullying is never right
Suns making abuse jokes? Questionable
theo abuse is never funny. no one who plays nw has a daddy who loved them. matt's dad hated him so much he refused to buy him a decent pc and let him join the army for four months or something. suns dad hated him so much he named him wang. your dad hated you so much he broke your right mouse button and now all you can do is down attack. leave their personal lives out of this, bullying is never right
Why does this guy keep talking about me lmao I'm just living in his head rent free boyo
Never talk about me like that again you alcoholic hick.Suns making abuse jokes? Questionable
theo abuse is never funny. no one who plays nw has a daddy who loved them. matt's dad hated him so much he refused to buy him a decent pc and let him join the army for four months or something. suns dad hated him so much he named him wang. your dad hated you so much he broke your right mouse button and now all you can do is down attack. leave their personal lives out of this, bullying is never right
Where is USMC in the regiment list. Sure they might not have won a lot of tournaments, but the impact they had in the game alongside regiments like 63e, is undeniable
Where was asianp’s “elite” leading in napl when he let vortex lead?? Also LG #1 all time not even a debate
Can we all just agree Karth was the best line leader? I don't think it's even that close. Heil Karth.
Can we all just agree Karth was the best line leader? I don't think it's even that close. Heil Karth.Grimsight-Lead only contending regiment against the 12th during their reign. Pioneered some new tactics that you see used in every 1v1 these days.
It's almost like he led no-names to NWL titles and all sorts of 1v1 wins. Oh wait, that is pretty much exactly what he did. He also is also the pioneer of "hill camping" and positioning for shooting. Reverse line....... go! Right on top of that hill and let the easy shots ensue. Heil Karth.Can we all just agree Karth was the best line leader? I don't think it's even that close. Heil Karth.
No.
Begone filthy newgen, none of that is true. Just because the rest of the community memes on 63e for using that strat when it isn't necessary doesn't mean he pioneered it.It's almost like he led no-names to NWL titles and all sorts of 1v1 wins. Oh wait, that is pretty much exactly what he did. He also is also the pioneer of "hill camping" and positioning for shooting. Reverse line....... go! Right on top of that hill and let the easy shots ensue. Heil Karth.Can we all just agree Karth was the best line leader? I don't think it's even that close. Heil Karth.
No.
the 63e indoctrinated this one wellIt's almost like he led no-names to NWL titles and all sorts of 1v1 wins. Oh wait, that is pretty much exactly what he did. He also is also the pioneer of "hill camping" and positioning for shooting. Reverse line....... go! Right on top of that hill and let the easy shots ensue. Heil Karth.Can we all just agree Karth was the best line leader? I don't think it's even that close. Heil Karth.
No.
Where was asianp’s “elite” leading in napl when he let vortex lead?? Also LG #1 all time not even a debate
Where was asianp’s “elite” leading in napl when he let vortex lead?? Also LG #1 all time not even a debate
Can we all just agree Karth was the best line leader? I don't think it's even that close. Heil Karth.I 2-0'd karth in leading rec lines. I'm better obviously.
I mean this is also another reason the 63e is so great. And when we won those NWL's I think our most well known player was either Krastinov or Steven so idk who else was relevant there. We had the 71st join us for an NWL season but it's a debate over who won that shit. 1v1s I still think Karth is the best but in terms of running a regiment Karth is easily on top. The USMC are the only reg that can come close in that regard. Heil Karth.Begone filthy newgen, none of that is true. Just because the rest of the community memes on 63e for using that strat when it isn't necessary doesn't mean he pioneered it.It's almost like he led no-names to NWL titles and all sorts of 1v1 wins. Oh wait, that is pretty much exactly what he did. He also is also the pioneer of "hill camping" and positioning for shooting. Reverse line....... go! Right on top of that hill and let the easy shots ensue. Heil Karth.Can we all just agree Karth was the best line leader? I don't think it's even that close. Heil Karth.
No.
When he led 63e to NWL titles, it wasn't with a regiment full of no-names, and the 63e's 1v1 record is nothing compared to the 12th's, if the 12th would've stayed around as long as 63e did, 63e wouldn't have won any of those titles.
Tico or Breaches>Karth
84e Damien 6-4'd Karth when he had the 63e Grd line compared to 84e rankers.84e OP
Damien outled Karth in 2015 :/
I mean this is also another reason the 63e is so great. And when we won those NWL's I think our most well known player was either Krastinov or Steven so idk who else was relevant there. We had the 71st join us for an NWL season but it's a debate over who won that shit. 1v1s I still think Karth is the best but in terms of running a regiment Karth is easily on top. The USMC are the only reg that can come close in that regard. Heil Karth.Begone filthy newgen, none of that is true. Just because the rest of the community memes on 63e for using that strat when it isn't necessary doesn't mean he pioneered it.It's almost like he led no-names to NWL titles and all sorts of 1v1 wins. Oh wait, that is pretty much exactly what he did. He also is also the pioneer of "hill camping" and positioning for shooting. Reverse line....... go! Right on top of that hill and let the easy shots ensue. Heil Karth.Can we all just agree Karth was the best line leader? I don't think it's even that close. Heil Karth.
No.
When he led 63e to NWL titles, it wasn't with a regiment full of no-names, and the 63e's 1v1 record is nothing compared to the 12th's, if the 12th would've stayed around as long as 63e did, 63e wouldn't have won any of those titles.
Tico or Breaches>Karth
Breaches was the real man behind the 12th. Tico was just a frontI mean this is also another reason the 63e is so great. And when we won those NWL's I think our most well known player was either Krastinov or Steven so idk who else was relevant there. We had the 71st join us for an NWL season but it's a debate over who won that shit. 1v1s I still think Karth is the best but in terms of running a regiment Karth is easily on top. The USMC are the only reg that can come close in that regard. Heil Karth.Begone filthy newgen, none of that is true. Just because the rest of the community memes on 63e for using that strat when it isn't necessary doesn't mean he pioneered it.It's almost like he led no-names to NWL titles and all sorts of 1v1 wins. Oh wait, that is pretty much exactly what he did. He also is also the pioneer of "hill camping" and positioning for shooting. Reverse line....... go! Right on top of that hill and let the easy shots ensue. Heil Karth.Can we all just agree Karth was the best line leader? I don't think it's even that close. Heil Karth.
No.
When he led 63e to NWL titles, it wasn't with a regiment full of no-names, and the 63e's 1v1 record is nothing compared to the 12th's, if the 12th would've stayed around as long as 63e did, 63e wouldn't have won any of those titles.
Tico or Breaches>Karth
1v1's, no. 12th were way better
3eVolt were way better.
What you highlighted only means the circumstances in Karths life allowed him to keep spending time on NW and the circumstances in Tico's didn't.
I mean this is also another reason the 63e is so great. And when we won those NWL's I think our most well known player was either Krastinov or Steven so idk who else was relevant there. We had the 71st join us for an NWL season but it's a debate over who won that shit. 1v1s I still think Karth is the best but in terms of running a regiment Karth is easily on top. The USMC are the only reg that can come close in that regard. Heil Karth.Begone filthy newgen, none of that is true. Just because the rest of the community memes on 63e for using that strat when it isn't necessary doesn't mean he pioneered it.It's almost like he led no-names to NWL titles and all sorts of 1v1 wins. Oh wait, that is pretty much exactly what he did. He also is also the pioneer of "hill camping" and positioning for shooting. Reverse line....... go! Right on top of that hill and let the easy shots ensue. Heil Karth.Can we all just agree Karth was the best line leader? I don't think it's even that close. Heil Karth.
No.
When he led 63e to NWL titles, it wasn't with a regiment full of no-names, and the 63e's 1v1 record is nothing compared to the 12th's, if the 12th would've stayed around as long as 63e did, 63e wouldn't have won any of those titles.
Tico or Breaches>Karth
Lol the thing with the 63e, is screw the 12th being better than them, even the 18th were better than them. I remember when the 18th beat the 63e Grd like 8-2 or something like that.18th was ass
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4f/Marvel%27s_The_Avengers_logo.svg/2000px-Marvel%27s_The_Avengers_logo.svg.png)
Napoleonic WarRoster
Steam of Leader: Apaukolypse (https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198028933820)
(https://image.ibb.co/kNivLd/ezgif_5_6fd239c71a.gif)
(https://image.ibb.co/hoDFmJ/ezgif_5_233943b3ed.gif)
(https://image.ibb.co/k4CVLd/ezgif_5_a24c8e649f.gif)
(https://image.ibb.co/mQTciy/ezgif_5_c9b7f27749.gif)
(https://image.ibb.co/cCP2Ld/ezgif_1_804b825631.gif)
Rotation/Sub: Shinto[close]
The best duelists in the game have never failed to win groupfighting tournaments.
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi0.kym-cdn.com%2Fentries%2Ficons%2Fmobile%2F000%2F016%2F729%2Flarge.jpg&hash=92911d1998a605e99546d0e7b6b84fd0a7850dc5)Spoiler(https://i.imgur.com/Wu91uw1.png)[close]
But you lost straight afterwards. As well we nearly came back from a 1-6 deficit.(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi0.kym-cdn.com%2Fentries%2Ficons%2Fmobile%2F000%2F016%2F729%2Flarge.jpg&hash=92911d1998a605e99546d0e7b6b84fd0a7850dc5)Spoiler(https://i.imgur.com/Wu91uw1.png)[close]
But you lost straight afterwards. As well we nearly came back from a 1-6 deficit.(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi0.kym-cdn.com%2Fentries%2Ficons%2Fmobile%2F000%2F016%2F729%2Flarge.jpg&hash=92911d1998a605e99546d0e7b6b84fd0a7850dc5)Spoiler(https://i.imgur.com/Wu91uw1.png)[close]
But you lost straight afterwards. As well we nearly came back from a 1-6 deficit.(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi0.kym-cdn.com%2Fentries%2Ficons%2Fmobile%2F000%2F016%2F729%2Flarge.jpg&hash=92911d1998a605e99546d0e7b6b84fd0a7850dc5)Spoiler(https://i.imgur.com/Wu91uw1.png)[close]
and lol?
never failed;D
Quotenever failed;D
you still had 2 90 overalls and couldnt win smhQuotenever failed;D
That doesn't mean they win every single groupfight tournament lol, just that they have won them.
Let's also not pretend Maple and Apoc are in top form either lol
really makes you thinkyou still had 2 90 overalls and couldnt win smhQuotenever failed;D
That doesn't mean they win every single groupfight tournament lol, just that they have won them.
Let's also not pretend Maple and Apoc are in top form either lol
you still had 2 90 overalls and couldnt win smhQuotenever failed;D
That doesn't mean they win every single groupfight tournament lol, just that they have won them.
Let's also not pretend Maple and Apoc are in top form either lol
Spoiler(https://i.gyazo.com/2b4a5d62b6fdc69c7faadbb53178c8a4.png)
(https://i.gyazo.com/9a6a847162af31aa821f0b0c6fdda752.png)
(https://i.gyazo.com/a2c36969848567613e0a2fe9cffec662.png)[close](https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi0.kym-cdn.com%2Fentries%2Ficons%2Fmobile%2F000%2F021%2F464%2F14608107_1180665285312703_1558693314_n.jpg&hash=2dc21b3b22475641f62288efe7d681bd7e65b63a)Spoiler(https://i.gyazo.com/bd7db51ea0f312cffcb7d9eb81250b7e.png)[close]
one team has 2 90s, 2 85s (in 90's all time), and an 87
another team has 3 87s, an 85, and an 83
which team wins?
one team has 2 90s, 2 85s (both in 90's all time), and an 87
another team has 3 87s, an 85, and an 83
which team wins?
contrasting styles mean skill disparity isn't easy to figure out at allBut lists are always right ;D
if apoc and maple our so rusty how are they 85s?one team has 2 90s, 2 85s (in 90's all time), and an 87
another team has 3 87s, an 85, and an 83
which team wins?
2 of our players also don't play the game much anymore and are rusty.
Yeah we did bad in a 5v5, maybe we just aren't good at small group fighting, but me maple and godfreid carry in reg groupfights
if apoc and maple our so rusty how are they 85s?one team has 2 90s, 2 85s (in 90's all time), and an 87
another team has 3 87s, an 85, and an 83
which team wins?
2 of our players also don't play the game much anymore and are rusty.
Yeah we did bad in a 5v5, maybe we just aren't good at small group fighting, but me maple and godfreid carry in reg groupfights
if apoc and maple our so rusty how are they 85s?one team has 2 90s, 2 85s (in 90's all time), and an 87
another team has 3 87s, an 85, and an 83
which team wins?
2 of our players also don't play the game much anymore and are rusty.
Yeah we did bad in a 5v5, maybe we just aren't good at small group fighting, but me maple and godfreid carry in reg groupfights
our team was just Maniac hard carrying with rune being a good performer
Spoiler(https://i.gyazo.com/2b4a5d62b6fdc69c7faadbb53178c8a4.png)
(https://i.gyazo.com/9a6a847162af31aa821f0b0c6fdda752.png)
(https://i.gyazo.com/a2c36969848567613e0a2fe9cffec662.png)[close](https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi0.kym-cdn.com%2Fentries%2Ficons%2Fmobile%2F000%2F021%2F464%2F14608107_1180665285312703_1558693314_n.jpg&hash=2dc21b3b22475641f62288efe7d681bd7e65b63a)Spoiler(https://i.gyazo.com/bd7db51ea0f312cffcb7d9eb81250b7e.png)[close]
Atleast we can both agree that maniac should be higherif apoc and maple our so rusty how are they 85s?one team has 2 90s, 2 85s (in 90's all time), and an 87
another team has 3 87s, an 85, and an 83
which team wins?
2 of our players also don't play the game much anymore and are rusty.
Yeah we did bad in a 5v5, maybe we just aren't good at small group fighting, but me maple and godfreid carry in reg groupfights
our team was just Maniac hard carrying with rune being a good performer
You guys beat us in a 5v5. The two 90s did there part in the 5v5 as well as we also regularly beat all of you in ft7s and outfrag you in groupfights. That's why we are rated what we are and you are rated what you are. But maniac does deserve to be higher on the list.
Atleast we can both agree that maniac should be higherif apoc and maple our so rusty how are they 85s?one team has 2 90s, 2 85s (in 90's all time), and an 87
another team has 3 87s, an 85, and an 83
which team wins?
2 of our players also don't play the game much anymore and are rusty.
Yeah we did bad in a 5v5, maybe we just aren't good at small group fighting, but me maple and godfreid carry in reg groupfights
our team was just Maniac hard carrying with rune being a good performer
You guys beat us in a 5v5. The two 90s did there part in the 5v5 as well as we also regularly beat all of you in ft7s and outfrag you in groupfights. That's why we are rated what we are and you are rated what you are. But maniac does deserve to be higher on the list.
Atleast we can both agree that maniac should be higherif apoc and maple our so rusty how are they 85s?one team has 2 90s, 2 85s (in 90's all time), and an 87
another team has 3 87s, an 85, and an 83
which team wins?
2 of our players also don't play the game much anymore and are rusty.
Yeah we did bad in a 5v5, maybe we just aren't good at small group fighting, but me maple and godfreid carry in reg groupfights
our team was just Maniac hard carrying with rune being a good performer
You guys beat us in a 5v5. The two 90s did there part in the 5v5 as well as we also regularly beat all of you in ft7s and outfrag you in groupfights. That's why we are rated what we are and you are rated what you are. But maniac does deserve to be higher on the list.
Alright with your infinite wisdom tell me what my current rating should be babyj
Slowly but surely weebs are taking over the world.
Slowly but surely weebs are taking over the world.
maybe if u guys were better at gfing then u could more easily explain why you think u are good at gfing
maybe if u guys were better at gfing then u could more easily explain why you think u are good at gfing
smh ft7 me in runescape you dirty whore
maybe if u guys were better at gfing then u could more easily explain why you think u are good at gfing
smh ft7 me in runescape you dirty whore
ill take you up on that if u mean 2007scape
maybe if u guys were better at gfing then u could more easily explain why you think u are good at gfing
smh ft7 me in runescape you dirty whore
ill take you up on that if u mean 2007scape
Nah sadly i kept playing the original game even though it turned into utter shit. Still waiting for my rs classic activation code though v_v
you won the discussion round, apoc, but I won the meme round.
I can tell that the leaders list hasn't been touched since the last list made by godfried(?)
I can tell that the leaders list hasn't been touched since the last list made by godfried(?)
Grimsight
I can tell that the leaders list hasn't been touched since the last list made by godfried(?)
Grimsight
Last NWL
same we doing Max pking? Pure? What we doing I'll easily beat any of you infact, I'm maxed on my HCIM and my Ironman and my main come on kids lets gomaybe if u guys were better at gfing then u could more easily explain why you think u are good at gfing
smh ft7 me in runescape you dirty whore
ill take you up on that if u mean 2007scape
I can tell that the leaders list hasn't been touched since the last list made by godfried(?)
Why put up the leaders list if no effort was put into that partwhy do you care about a leader list
Why put up the leaders list if no effort was put into that part
Why put up the leaders list if no effort was put into that part
The bants dried up. I know I cracked down really hard on people proposing changes, but I don't want to come off like I am not listening. I have made a few changes below the 90s that people have brought up that I thought were fair, its just there have been some notable changes that people haven't agreed with yet haven't brought up any points to me that I thought were good enough to get me to change my perspective. So to stir up some more healthy bant I will go over the process and what I did to Grimsight's old list to justify myself or let people rage at my reasoning.
So it started off with me dragging Maple and Godfreid into a TS. I asked Godfreid to make me a current melee list, cause I wouldn't have any idea what I was doing with one, and I told Maple to help me out with the under 90s while I just worked around with the forum shit (seriously, having to edit Grimsight's list and changing the pictures and tables and shit is a bigger pain than it looks). While they did that, I would just propose changes to the above 90s and they would thumbs up or down it and we would talk about it.
I went down Grimsight's list in the 90s, proposed each and every change in front of Maple and Godfreid, and we had a discussion on each. Originally I wanted to move down Zzeth, Breaches, Zorkoth, and Ghost, as they were way too overinflated on the old list:
- Zzeth's biggest achievements were basically being Jackie's teammate. I remain of the opinion his 2v2 team could have worked just like it did with anyone above 80 in his place. Not to say hes not a good player in his own right (hes like what, 87 now?), but lets just say his trophy rack is inflated by 2v2 tournaments that he himself would host. A good groupfighter, but not much else. Not 90s quality.
- Breaches was similar. A good groupfighter but he never absolutely carried groupfights. He was great with teamwork though and had great awareness though, so he stays on the list, just not in the 90s.
- Zorkoth was way overrated. His biggest strength was being unpredictable as hell, with him weaving in a stun chamber when youd least expect it, along with some good groupfighting. Also not 90s. Think RitZ had too much hand in that, along with many of the over 90s in the old list.
- Ghost was a great player, and he didn't fall far, but he never really stood out a whole lot, in part due to being in the 12th.
A few people got moved around in the 90s but not moved out:
- I nerfed Jackie and Tammo a point, because I see a 100 player as absolutely unbeatable at their peak/year of player, and I felt 97 and 96 were awfully close. 96 and 95 are still pretty close, but it feels just a tad bit more accurate to me.
- I felt like Asian has always been good throughout the entirety of NW. He was good when I started playing the game, hes added stuff to his arsenal as the games gone on, and hes far from washed up now. I think that deserved a reward of a couple points so I gave him the 94. If he fixed his shit when it came to tournaments, I might have even gave him the 95.
- I felt Ritz was a couple points too high. The whole old above 90s list was made with RitZ having the biggest say in the matter, and RitZ was doing really well at the time. I think in hindsight he had a very heavy reliance on turkish kicks, which was something alot of the better players in the community didn't really have to deal with a whole lot, and also doesn't take a whole lot of skill or practice. Thats not to say I don't think hes a great player, and I would say a 92 reflects him pretty well.
- Lithios was good, but I think a 93 reflects him better. Thats basically it.
- Pointblank was a great player, but I think a 93 was too high. Its hard to really justify the super high spot he had on the list when most players nowadays only know him BECAUSE of the list, or through other players explaining who he was, or through that one 2v2 video. I don't think this one is too much up for debate because I will put my foot down that nobody knows better at how good PB is better than I do, not even PB himself. I would only really accept an equally credible source to really debate him up or down.
- Coconut got moved down a point to sit at 90. I think this is a better reflection, because Coconut has always been a great player, but I think he was a very quiet player who didn't really go to many tournaments or do a whole lot of FT7s (to my knowledge).
- I decided Maples dominance at his peak was good enough to put him as a 93. I know this one is a controversial one with Maple listed as an author, but believe me, it wasn't him that suggested it. Having seen Maples peak, I know how good he is, and this is an all time list, not a "If you didn't play before 2015, get out" list. While before 2015 was the most competition in the games history, and the best players were far from washed up, playing over 1000 hours a year, I would say it would be wrong to not recognize a truly good player, who I think could have competed back then. So I proposed it, and no real objections were brought up, so it stayed. If you think its wrong, debate me, but I just hope those who are trying to imply he bumped himself are just memeing, cause he didn't.
So with the aforementioned people out of the 90s, and the remaining ones readjusted, it seemed a little bit too small so I started spitballing names for people to take some spots.
- Havoc was a pretty easy choice to make as I felt like he was pretty underrated on the last list, even at 88. So he was the first to get bumped into the 90s. I am currently thinking if 91 is too low for him, but I will have to think on that some more.
- Godfreid was moved up because he has turned into quite the formidable duelist and, as I said, while there is a meme that he can't groupfight, I would say that's not true. While there is a case for saying that Godfreid isn't as good at groupfighting as he is at dueling, to say he isn't a good group fighter, I would say, isn't true. I would say he has done enough to deserve a spot in the 90s, and thus I proposed it (again, not Godfreid himself). His original spot was at 91, but Maple said he could maybe go a point higher, and I decided "Sure, why not?". So that is where he is now. Godfreid at no point said anything during that discussion.
On to the honorable mentions, because there were a couples names tossed around to rise into the 90s, but at the end didn't make the cut.
- Jokes aside, Bill's name was considered being at a 90. But the thing was, it was hard to say what exactly made Bill deserving. He has won a tourny here and there, but I don't think he was ever dominant enough to hold a spot, nor is there anything about his game that is truly noteworthy. His blocking is very good, and he plays very carefully. That's about it. It's enough to make a good player, but is it good enough to justify a 90? Me and Maple think not. There was actually some debate on this one, though, as Godfreid disagreed with the final decision. There wasn't really a way to compromise on the matter, and 2 out of 3 votes said "Nay", so he went no higher than 89.
- The next to be considered was Russian. He has been a solid player for a very long time. I vaguely remember a very talented RussianFury back in the 38e, long before the 71st. Its just it was hard to justify a spot for him in the 90s without the dueling success. I know I have argued long and hard on this thread about "Dueling vs. Groupfighting in determining placement on the list", but his spot at 89 is almost solely thanks to his groupfighting success. I would say that is valuing groupfighting, though for some reason, others would disagree. I will be straightforward and honest that yes, I do value dueling more, but even if I did value them equally, it would just be hard to put someone in the 90s without success in the part of the game with the most reliance on the individual. So while he did get an upgrade from his spot on Grimsight's list, he fell shy of 90.
Besides that, the under 90 list is I would say an eternal WIP, so I won't really go over the changes I made. Its harder to be accurate the lower you go, because there are way more players along with the players themselves being less consistent or well known. I am listening though, so if there is a fair change propose, odds are I will actually implement it.
Current list is solely made by Godfreid and nobody else, me and Maple had no hand in it, and I don't see a whole lot of people having issue with it so I won't really touch on that.Why put up the leaders list if no effort was put into that part
Effort was put into it, just not by me. It was made by Grimsight, not me, as I have said. The only change I did was move Grimsight down a couple points. I was around to help teach a 3eVolt_SoD_Grimsight how to block, and I was in his regiment when he was in charge, and I don't think he has had near the impact on the game he thinks he has. I think the tier I put him in reflects him better.
But by effort, I assume you mean "Why include it if you aren't gonna change it?". Well, I will be honest, the reason why is ever so intertwined with why I got rid of the current regiment's list and why no regiments have been added to the all time list; there haven't really been any new 'great' leaders in the community. Bandwagoning is basically an art form in NA, and the most dominant regiments this past year or two (from what I have heard) can basically just be boiled down to concentrated stacks of skilled players, with some of the most dominant ones basically already being on the list, such as the newer incarnations of the 71st and 3e. I mean, if you disagree and feel like someone deserves a shout, go for it, but odds are the way the list is now is probably the way it will stay, not because im unwilling to listen, its just I don't think we are ever gonna have another Karth or AsianP or Breaches. So for now, I am gonna include that list to honor the greatest leaders the game will probably ever have. [/list]
shut up you had gtaman
im gonna practice blocking for half a week, turtle some duels and win purely because of patience (thats the meta right) and then get my easy 95 rating.
why didnt i think of that in the first place, who cares about yawning on multiple ppl in tense gf matches when u can be the best statue known to man, ur all so smart
im gonna practice blocking for half a week, turtle some duels and win purely because of patience (thats the meta right) and then get my easy 95 rating.
why didnt i think of that in the first place, who cares about yawning on multiple ppl in tense gf matches when u can be the best statue known to man, ur all so smart
Someone seems upset they can't chamber like I can
im gonna practice blocking for half a week, turtle some duels and win purely because of patience (thats the meta right) and then get my easy 95 rating.
why didnt i think of that in the first place, who cares about yawning on multiple ppl in tense gf matches when u can be the best statue known to man, ur all so smart
Someone seems upset they can't chamber like I can
im positive that i shit on you in duels purely from just holding a stab and releasing it just as you let go of your block, or by footlancing you
im gonna practice blocking for half a week, turtle some duels and win purely because of patience (thats the meta right) and then get my easy 95 rating.
why didnt i think of that in the first place, who cares about yawning on multiple ppl in tense gf matches when u can be the best statue known to man, ur all so smart
Someone seems upset they can't chamber like I can
im positive that i shit on you in duels purely from just holding a stab and releasing it just as you let go of your block, or by footlancing you
How bout you prove it in a ft7, oh wait you never will cuz you know you will lose sigh
Yoshie on the all time list? That's highly debatable
6te was favorite to win NWL along with 93rd. Not sure why people keep tossing their win over 91st as some big accomplishment when the 91st was on a losing streak in groupfights. They could barely scrap a win over the 15e.
Older players who only played 2012-2013 are overrated and shouldn’t be on the top tier of all time list. Players that played back then and through the generations are beyond better than them. Do we need to look bl the 12th Captains vs 9y 2v2? That is some of the worse groupfighting i seen. Any 2v2 team from 2016-2018 could beat them with ease.
Bill has been dominating for 2-3 years. Kovy has been dominating for 2 years, Russian has been dominating for 2 years and Suns has been dominating for a year.SpoilerI got your bants Apoc don’t worry.[close]
SpoilerBut wait, yo boy is back[close]
All time leading list could use an update. For sure, but if it was me. I'd move AsianP above Karth/Zen, I won't comment on Breaches/Tico, but from what every 12th player says, Tico never led. Apoc was being far too kind to his fellow old gen Grimsight, the original Lawbringer. Grim should be down in the mid 80's. Millander, Stox, Zorkoth have no place on a all time competitive leading list. Godfreid should be bump down to a 81. Knightofsaintjohn is a well deserve 87 one of the best leaders I ever seen. Alexander should be a 86. It's criminal to have CheeseyPants outside the 90's especially after his TNWL win. Russian/Waste as a combo should be a 87 reasonably (i'd personally think a 90). PurplePanda/Windflower as a combo should be a 82 you could argue for even a 84 if people wanted (only regiment to be a contender in every league they joined without a melee carry).
Everyone below 80 should just be removed. People like Marceaux, CommissarJDF, Nappy and Irish deserve to be on the list, but where? Probably in the high 70's low 80's.
Why do people that are bad at the game voice their opinions
Haha I'll ask Maple why exactly he was put on the listYoshie on the all time list? That's highly debatable
I refer you to Maple
I don't even know who he is
Can't believe I got knocked down from a 86 to 83 in the all time list.You already told Bill you cheat...If you arent anymore thats good but doesnt take from the fact that you s key the entire time in ft7s...but your gfing has improved a lot
No one in this game has ever gotten as good as I have in such few hours.
Even bill said "I just don't get how someone with that many hours is beating everyone let's be real sun's he's cheating" 8)
- Jokes aside, Bill's name was considered being at a 90. But the thing was, it was hard to say what exactly made Bill deserving. He has won a tourny here and there, but I don't think he was ever dominant enough to hold a spot, nor is there anything about his game that is truly noteworthy. His blocking is very good, and he plays very carefully. That's about it. It's enough to make a good player, but is it good enough to justify a 90? Me and Maple think not. There was actually some debate on this one, though, as Godfreid disagreed with the final decision. There wasn't really a way to compromise on the matter, and 2 out of 3 votes said "Nay", so he went no higher than 89.
As pointless as my quest for importance in this shitfest is,
I deserve some form of half assed recognition for the 6teSLR winning the last NWL beating the 91st who have had much better players then ours, most of our line are not on any melee lists and are the unsung heroes of any regiment, and we finished that season unbeaten and beat large melee stacks as we have in the past. Unofficially we have beaten many regiments including LG and 71st and 63e which took 2 hours but we did it without many known community names and we have been a recognisable force in the community in the last 2 years at least, sure it's disbanded now but I feel like with the logic behind the placement of people like karth etc. We beat much better melee regiments with tactics and not with sheer melee prowess. We reached the heights of 60 people a night when I had the time to do events all week and we were a good community that was always the butt of a joke in Nr4 71st or whoever the fuck else because of my personal decisions and behaviour as the leader. So to have this list up and to say there are no other great leaders is ignorant and I'm sure the USMC would agree that people like JDF for the same sort of accomplishments would be on said list. Google the 6teSLR and check our rise from shit to not so shit and judge for yourself
Can't believe I got knocked down from a 86 to 83 in the all time list.You already told Bill you cheat...If you arent anymore thats good but doesnt take from the fact that you s key the entire time in ft7s...but your gfing has improved a lot
No one in this game has ever gotten as good as I have in such few hours.
Even bill said "I just don't get how someone with that many hours is beating everyone let's be real sun's he's cheating" 8)
I heard he beat havoc 4 out of 5 ft7s... beat you like 15-20 and kovy in around 30 ft7sCan't believe I got knocked down from a 86 to 83 in the all time list.You already told Bill you cheat...If you arent anymore thats good but doesnt take from the fact that you s key the entire time in ft7s...but your gfing has improved a lot
No one in this game has ever gotten as good as I have in such few hours.
Even bill said "I just don't get how someone with that many hours is beating everyone let's be real sun's he's cheating" 8)
The guy that got 7-0d by havoc and kovy multiple times thinks that people will care about what he has to say. Wow
As pointless as my quest for importance in this shitfest is,
I deserve some form of half assed recognition for the 6teSLR winning the last NWL beating the 91st who have had much better players then ours, most of our line are not on any melee lists and are the unsung heroes of any regiment, and we finished that season unbeaten and beat large melee stacks as we have in the past. Unofficially we have beaten many regiments including LG and 71st and 63e which took 2 hours but we did it without many known community names and we have been a recognisable force in the community in the last 2 years at least, sure it's disbanded now but I feel like with the logic behind the placement of people like karth etc. We beat much better melee regiments with tactics and not with sheer melee prowess. We reached the heights of 60 people a night when I had the time to do events all week and we were a good community that was always the butt of a joke in Nr4 71st or whoever the fuck else because of my personal decisions and behaviour as the leader. So to have this list up and to say there are no other great leaders is ignorant and I'm sure the USMC would agree that people like JDF for the same sort of accomplishments would be on said list. Google the 6teSLR and check our rise from shit to not so shit and judge for yourself
I can't speak for all your incarnations, but from an outsider's perspective, your last one was an okay regiment with a decent leader and a great strategy. Not the greatest, not the worst. I watched most of your matches in the last NWL, and as well as you did your success was always in part due to one outside variable being in your favor. The Nr4 had the worst strategy on the planet (run into the bullets even though we know we can't shoot for shit!), and DJ and Rafael seemed notably overconfident going into the match. Their loss seemed as much due to underestimating their opponent as anything the 6te actually did. You did beat the 93rd, which featured the most melee stacked lineup of any regiment of 2018. But the 93rd members almost without exception did not want to be there to play HillCamp: Irish Edition for an hour or more, and actively looked for excuses to drop (a few people 'had to go to dinner', a few people who had sworn up and down they could attend the match suddenly 'couldn't make it', and after it was apparent we would lose Havoc, Wiki, and a few others just disappeared). I don't know if Nick Cole is actually a bad leader, or if it was just nerves, but he wasn't able to inspire his regiment before that match, persuade them to do their best during it, or hold them together after. And he was never able to take advantage of any opportunity that presented itself to him during that match. So does making the game such a chore to play for your opponent that they would rather go watch a movie with their girlfriend (or fap to anime) make you one of the greatest leaders of all time? Hell if I know, but I think you know the answer to that one. And lastly, you did have a very well-rounded and well-earned victory over the 91st. But the 91st was a beleaguered retirement home of former 3e Volt friends looking more towards having a good time than dominating North America. I don't know if it was the "dead dad" thing or if the game just got less interesting, but there was a marked point during the last NAPL where the 3eVolt slowly started caring less about NW, and they've never recovered since. The AsianP I met then was an unstoppable, adderal chugging steam engine who probably woke up in the middle of the night with flashbacks to the battle of Waterloo. The AsianP I know now is a nice, friendly guy who smokes too much weed and likes his bird. Less extreme versions of the same transition can be said for most of his regiment. The 6te never beat *that* 3eVolt, instead it's as if you went into an old folk's home full of WW2 veterans and shot the place up with an uzi. And you know what? Those old dementia-ridden fucks still put 4 rounds on you.
NWL aside you had a good regiment and a good community. I don't think you give enough credit to people like Midnight and Yoshie though, they seemed to have been fairly instrumental in "your" success. I don't know and don't want to know about your intra-reg politics or your poaching, so I won't comment on those. And lastly without any real purpose the 6te broke up and faded away. Maybe this is just my opinion, but there was plenty to stick around for. You could have become a more skilled version of the 15e or a small competitive regiment or a retirement home of friends that just liked to hang out. Disbanding can't really be held against you though, from what I heard your work schedule was fairly punitive and didn't give you much time for NW. So to sum it up, you're a good leader who beat Team Overconfident, Team IDontWannaBeHere, and Team Who Gives a Fuck for an NWL title, and had the most stable regiment of its time. But you're not Karth, or Breaches, or AsianP, or even Lawbringer.
Godfreid definitely deserves his right ful spot, he has won huge duel tournaments and done crazy shit like coming back from down 6-0 to beat the best overall player in the game"asianp" to win orcs huge tournament. He's also beat the best gfers before like in Nick's recent 3v3 tournament. Godfreid can do it all on top of his practically unstoppable dueling skills.
I really don't get why people underrate him
Lawbringer used Banned players like King Bill who top fragged and carried them to the victory in that final match vs 63edid he now?
Godfreid definitely deserves his right ful spot, he has won huge duel tournaments and done crazy shit like coming back from down 6-0 to beat the best overall player in the game"asianp" to win orcs huge tournament. He's also beat the best gfers before like in Nick's recent 3v3 tournament. Godfreid can do it all on top of his practically unstoppable dueling skills.
I really don't get why people underrate him
Godfreid is cheeks.
I dont know if you even remember playing in that match spartan, but it was not a campfest, not by us at least.SpoilerAs pointless as my quest for importance in this shitfest is,
I deserve some form of half assed recognition for the 6teSLR winning the last NWL beating the 91st who have had much better players then ours, most of our line are not on any melee lists and are the unsung heroes of any regiment, and we finished that season unbeaten and beat large melee stacks as we have in the past. Unofficially we have beaten many regiments including LG and 71st and 63e which took 2 hours but we did it without many known community names and we have been a recognisable force in the community in the last 2 years at least, sure it's disbanded now but I feel like with the logic behind the placement of people like karth etc. We beat much better melee regiments with tactics and not with sheer melee prowess. We reached the heights of 60 people a night when I had the time to do events all week and we were a good community that was always the butt of a joke in Nr4 71st or whoever the fuck else because of my personal decisions and behaviour as the leader. So to have this list up and to say there are no other great leaders is ignorant and I'm sure the USMC would agree that people like JDF for the same sort of accomplishments would be on said list. Google the 6teSLR and check our rise from shit to not so shit and judge for yourself
I can't speak for all your incarnations, but from an outsider's perspective, your last one was an okay regiment with a decent leader and a great strategy. Not the greatest, not the worst. I watched most of your matches in the last NWL, and as well as you did your success was always in part due to one outside variable being in your favor. The Nr4 had the worst strategy on the planet (run into the bullets even though we know we can't shoot for shit!), and DJ and Rafael seemed notably overconfident going into the match. Their loss seemed as much due to underestimating their opponent as anything the 6te actually did. You did beat the 93rd, which featured the most melee stacked lineup of any regiment of 2018. But the 93rd members almost without exception did not want to be there to play HillCamp: Irish Edition for an hour or more, and actively looked for excuses to drop (a few people 'had to go to dinner', a few people who had sworn up and down they could attend the match suddenly 'couldn't make it', and after it was apparent we would lose Havoc, Wiki, and a few others just disappeared). I don't know if Nick Cole is actually a bad leader, or if it was just nerves, but he wasn't able to inspire his regiment before that match, persuade them to do their best during it, or hold them together after. And he was never able to take advantage of any opportunity that presented itself to him during that match. So does making the game such a chore to play for your opponent that they would rather go watch a movie with their girlfriend (or fap to anime) make you one of the greatest leaders of all time? Hell if I know, but I think you know the answer to that one. And lastly, you did have a very well-rounded and well-earned victory over the 91st. But the 91st was a beleaguered retirement home of former 3e Volt friends looking more towards having a good time than dominating North America. I don't know if it was the "dead dad" thing or if the game just got less interesting, but there was a marked point during the last NAPL where the 3eVolt slowly started caring less about NW, and they've never recovered since. The AsianP I met then was an unstoppable, adderal chugging steam engine who probably woke up in the middle of the night with flashbacks to the battle of Waterloo. The AsianP I know now is a nice, friendly guy who smokes too much weed and likes his bird. Less extreme versions of the same transition can be said for most of his regiment. The 6te never beat *that* 3eVolt, instead it's as if you went into an old folk's home full of WW2 veterans and shot the place up with an uzi. And you know what? Those old dementia-ridden fucks still put 4 rounds on you.
NWL aside you had a good regiment and a good community. I don't think you give enough credit to people like Midnight and Yoshie though, they seemed to have been fairly instrumental in "your" success. I don't know and don't want to know about your intra-reg politics or your poaching, so I won't comment on those. And lastly without any real purpose the 6te broke up and faded away. Maybe this is just my opinion, but there was plenty to stick around for. You could have become a more skilled version of the 15e or a small competitive regiment or a retirement home of friends that just liked to hang out. Disbanding can't really be held against you though, from what I heard your work schedule was fairly punitive and didn't give you much time for NW. So to sum it up, you're a good leader who beat Team Overconfident, Team IDontWannaBeHere, and Team Who Gives a Fuck for an NWL title, and had the most stable regiment of its time. But you're not Karth, or Breaches, or AsianP, or even Lawbringer.[close]
Lawbringer had a stacked regiment and from what i hear even his NWL victory is still under debate for using mercs.
Godfreid definitely deserves his right ful spot, he has won huge duel tournaments and done crazy shit like coming back from down 6-0 to beat the best overall player in the game"asianp" to win orcs huge tournament. He's also beat the best gfers before like in Nick's recent 3v3 tournament. Godfreid can do it all on top of his practically unstoppable dueling skills.
I really don't get why people underrate him
Godfreid is cheeks.
You go negative on Bob gf. Lol.
If king bill wasnt there when he was supposed to be banned from NWL 58e wouldnt have tied 63e and won the NWL
If king bill wasnt there when he was supposed to be banned from NWL 58e wouldnt have tied 63e and won the NWL
If king bill wasnt there when he was supposed to be banned from NWL 58e wouldnt have tied 63e and won the NWL
alright that’s one too many of bill’s ego strokes.
MODERATOR THIS IS BILL ON ANOTHER ACCOUNT
Lawbringer used Banned players like King Bill who top fragged and carried them to the victory in that final match vs 63eRight, I played for Law too :)
Seems like matts trying to kiss the ass of his regiment leaders...Oh man i remember the days when he kissed King Bills ass until bill told kovy Matt told him he autoblocked then kovy told everyone. And matts hated bill ever since
Godfreid wins both duel tournaments and gf'ing tournaments, as well as asianp, they are both the best in the game overall and deserve the highest ratings, now someone like maniac, who is probably the best gfer in the game right now,and has dominated for a long time even on shitty regs and not super stacked reg, can only win gf'ing tournaments and wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell at a duel tournament.
It's silly how insecure all these gfers are, because they can't duel they play it down and act like dueling has no skill requirement, and try to weight it 5 percent, while the good duelists are honest and fair in their ratings and weigh the two skills pretty evenly
I'll do it for free bbSeems like matts trying to kiss the ass of his regiment leaders...Oh man i remember the days when he kissed King Bills ass until bill told kovy Matt told him he autoblocked then kovy told everyone. And matts hated bill ever since
how much to get my couch upstairs?
Another thing I've noticed about duelists they are the chillest people in the game. I don't think I've ever heard asianp or godfreid rage at the top of their lungs at one of their players for missing a backstab. Gfers always have a scapegoat when they die to protect their egos.Right, I don't rage. Im the coolest kid that plays this game!
Another thing I've noticed about duelists they are the chillest people in the game. I don't think I've ever heard asianp or godfreid rage at the top of their lungs at one of their players for missing a backstab. Gfers always have a scapegoat when they die to protect their egos.
Why does bill talk in third person, is he the only one who cares about himself??I am not bill but I did hear he 7-0d you last week with extreme ease
SpoilerBut wait, yo boy is back[close]
All time leading list could use an update. For sure, but if it was me. I'd move AsianP above Karth/Zen, I won't comment on Breaches/Tico, but from what every 12th player says, Tico never led. Apoc was being far too kind to his fellow old gen Grimsight, the original Lawbringer. Grim should be down in the mid 80's. Millander, Stox, Zorkoth have no place on a all time competitive leading list. Godfreid should be bump down to a 81. Knightofsaintjohn is a well deserve 87 one of the best leaders I ever seen. Alexander should be a 86. It's criminal to have CheeseyPants outside the 90's especially after his TNWL win. Russian/Waste as a combo should be a 87 reasonably (i'd personally think a 90). PurplePanda/Windflower as a combo should be a 82 you could argue for even a 84 if people wanted (only regiment to be a contender in every league they joined without a melee carry).
Everyone below 80 should just be removed. People like Marceaux, CommissarJDF, Nappy and Irish deserve to be on the list, but where? Probably in the high 70's low 80's.
stop trying to back talk lawbringer and get over yourselfLawbringer used Banned players like King Bill who top fragged and carried them to the victory in that final match vs 63edid he now?
63e Won Season 5 lelelelelelelelelstop trying to back lawbringer and get over yourselfLawbringer used Banned players like King Bill who top fragged and carried them to the victory in that final match vs 63edid he now?
since you list makers are dishonest biased cowards lets see asianp russian or godfreid come ft7 bill...oh wait russian is a scared little sissy and bill beat asianp and godfreid last week
What about the 5 straight duels 7-1 7-2 7-2 7-5 7-6 Bill beat you in before that and the 15-20 other ones before that?since you list makers are dishonest biased cowards lets see asianp russian or godfreid come ft7 bill...oh wait russian is a scared little sissy and bill beat asianp and godfreid last week
What about my 7-5 on u from last week
As pointless as my quest for importance in this shitfest is,
I deserve some form of half assed recognition for the 6teSLR winning the last NWL beating the 91st who have had much better players then ours, most of our line are not on any melee lists and are the unsung heroes of any regiment, and we finished that season unbeaten and beat large melee stacks as we have in the past. Unofficially we have beaten many regiments including LG and 71st and 63e which took 2 hours but we did it without many known community names and we have been a recognisable force in the community in the last 2 years at least, sure it's disbanded now but I feel like with the logic behind the placement of people like karth etc. We beat much better melee regiments with tactics and not with sheer melee prowess. We reached the heights of 60 people a night when I had the time to do events all week and we were a good community that was always the butt of a joke in Nr4 71st or whoever the fuck else because of my personal decisions and behaviour as the leader. So to have this list up and to say there are no other great leaders is ignorant and I'm sure the USMC would agree that people like JDF for the same sort of accomplishments would be on said list. Google the 6teSLR and check our rise from shit to not so shit and judge for yourself
I can't speak for all your incarnations, but from an outsider's perspective, your last one was an okay regiment with a decent leader and a great strategy. Not the greatest, not the worst. I watched most of your matches in the last NWL, and as well as you did your success was always in part due to one outside variable being in your favor. The Nr4 had the worst strategy on the planet (run into the bullets even though we know we can't shoot for shit!), and DJ and Rafael seemed notably overconfident going into the match. Their loss seemed as much due to underestimating their opponent as anything the 6te actually did. You did beat the 93rd, which featured the most melee stacked lineup of any regiment of 2018. But the 93rd members almost without exception did not want to be there to play HillCamp: Irish Edition for an hour or more, and actively looked for excuses to drop (a few people 'had to go to dinner', a few people who had sworn up and down they could attend the match suddenly 'couldn't make it', and after it was apparent we would lose Havoc, Wiki, and a few others just disappeared). I don't know if Nick Cole is actually a bad leader, or if it was just nerves, but he wasn't able to inspire his regiment before that match, persuade them to do their best during it, or hold them together after. And he was never able to take advantage of any opportunity that presented itself to him during that match. So does making the game such a chore to play for your opponent that they would rather go watch a movie with their girlfriend (or fap to anime) make you one of the greatest leaders of all time? Hell if I know, but I think you know the answer to that one. And lastly, you did have a very well-rounded and well-earned victory over the 91st. But the 91st was a beleaguered retirement home of former 3e Volt friends looking more towards having a good time than dominating North America. I don't know if it was the "dead dad" thing or if the game just got less interesting, but there was a marked point during the last NAPL where the 3eVolt slowly started caring less about NW, and they've never recovered since. The AsianP I met then was an unstoppable, adderal chugging steam engine who probably woke up in the middle of the night with flashbacks to the battle of Waterloo. The AsianP I know now is a nice, friendly guy who smokes too much weed and likes his bird. Less extreme versions of the same transition can be said for most of his regiment. The 6te never beat *that* 3eVolt, instead it's as if you went into an old folk's home full of WW2 veterans and shot the place up with an uzi. And you know what? Those old dementia-ridden fucks still put 4 rounds on you.
NWL aside you had a good regiment and a good community. I don't think you give enough credit to people like Midnight and Yoshie though, they seemed to have been fairly instrumental in "your" success. I don't know and don't want to know about your intra-reg politics or your poaching, so I won't comment on those. And lastly without any real purpose the 6te broke up and faded away. Maybe this is just my opinion, but there was plenty to stick around for. You could have become a more skilled version of the 15e or a small competitive regiment or a retirement home of friends that just liked to hang out. Disbanding can't really be held against you though, from what I heard your work schedule was fairly punitive and didn't give you much time for NW. So to sum it up, you're a good leader who beat Team Overconfident, Team IDontWannaBeHere, and Team Who Gives a Fuck for an NWL title, and had the most stable regiment of its time. But you're not Karth, or Breaches, or AsianP, or even Lawbringer.
I dont know if you even remember playing in that match spartan, but it was not a campfest, not by us at least.
Lawbringer had a stacked regiment and from what i hear even his NWL victory is still under debate for using mercs.
"The 6te never beat *that* 3eVolt, instead it's as if you went into an old folk's home full of WW2 veterans and shot the place up with an uzi. And you know what? Those old dementia-ridden fucks still put 4 rounds on you."
Can I please use this in my signature, this is the greatest thing I've ever read.
"The 6te never beat *that* 3eVolt, instead it's as if you went into an old folk's home full of WW2 veterans and shot the place up with an uzi. And you know what? Those old dementia-ridden fucks still put 4 rounds on you."
Can I please use this in my signature, this is the greatest thing I've ever read.
What about the 5 straight duels 7-1 7-2 7-2 7-5 7-6 Bill beat you in before that and the 15-20 other ones before that?since you list makers are dishonest biased cowards lets see asianp russian or godfreid come ft7 bill...oh wait russian is a scared little sissy and bill beat asianp and godfreid last week
What about my 7-5 on u from last week
If i do recall correctly
When people duel you its more of a chase than a duel considering you s key the entire time
>attempts to plug for 41stif your 41st gets a spot, so does mine blakester
>semi-relevant in the late stage of the game's community
>jakester starter pack
ay french canadian boi is good at chambersHaha I'll ask Maple why exactly he was put on the listYoshie on the all time list? That's highly debatable
I refer you to Maple
I don't even know who he is
We missed Sanders??>attempts to plug for 41stif your 41st gets a spot, so does mine blakester
>semi-relevant in the late stage of the game's community
>jakester starter packay french canadian boi is good at chambersHaha I'll ask Maple why exactly he was put on the listYoshie on the all time list? That's highly debatable
I refer you to Maple
I don't even know who he is
the only thing highly debatable is you not being on there.
LeroyNo one knows Leroy sadly Winters. :'(
LeroyUSMC SSgt right?
Touche Maple>attempts to plug for 41stif your 41st gets a spot, so does mine blakester
>semi-relevant in the late stage of the game's community
>jakester starter packay french canadian boi is good at chambersHaha I'll ask Maple why exactly he was put on the listYoshie on the all time list? That's highly debatable
I refer you to Maple
I don't even know who he isSpoilerthe only thing highly debatable is you not being on there.[close]
https://gyazo.com/648ec7f4453a8316c17934712e25ea1dSuns steven hasnt played in like 2 years man...
i 10-0'd steven does this count for anything?
Bill told me to post this
https://i.gyazo.com/1aa90eb62b82b9d24971f7a54f6ff4f8.png
Dueling requires so much more skill than gf'ing than does.
Dueling is Mental Stamina + Timing + Footwork + Strategy, it really is difficult because you have to have the mental strength to focus for a long time, block crazy feints(kovy,pedro), pay attention closely to footwork, and chamber which is hard when someone holds and mixes up the timings wildly(havoc)
Most the noobs in this game say all dueling is S key and Stun, which its not, you just don't understand how the game works, and have piss poor footwork. I FT7d one of the best gf'ers in the game recently, someone who practically never ft7s, not gunna say who, I beat them 7-2, and they complained to me how I had no skill because all I was doing was stunning. Well, said player would throw the same bait feint combo like 70 percent the time it was his turn to attack, and he'd move in the same direction everytime, how do you not expect me to stun you when you do that.
today i learned that mount and blade warband was a turn base game like civ 5 thanks for ur teachingsDueling requires so much more skill than gf'ing than does.
Dueling is Mental Stamina + Timing + Footwork + Strategy, it really is difficult because you have to have the mental strength to focus for a long time, block crazy feints(kovy,pedro), pay attention closely to footwork, and chamber which is hard when someone holds and mixes up the timings wildly(havoc)
Most the noobs in this game say all dueling is S key and Stun, which its not, you just don't understand how the game works, and have piss poor footwork. I FT7d one of the best gf'ers in the game recently, someone who practically never ft7s, not gunna say who, I beat them 7-2, and they complained to me how I had no skill because all I was doing was stunning. Well, said player would throw the same bait feint combo like 70 percent the time it was his turn to attack, and he'd move in the same direction everytime, how do you not expect me to stun you when you do that.
Strategy? Literally all you have to do in duelling is to punish your opponent's mistakes and misplays and not make mistakes yourself.
today i learned that mount and blade warband was a turn base game like civ 5 thanks for ur teachingsDueling requires so much more skill than gf'ing than does.
Dueling is Mental Stamina + Timing + Footwork + Strategy, it really is difficult because you have to have the mental strength to focus for a long time, block crazy feints(kovy,pedro), pay attention closely to footwork, and chamber which is hard when someone holds and mixes up the timings wildly(havoc)
Most the noobs in this game say all dueling is S key and Stun, which its not, you just don't understand how the game works, and have piss poor footwork. I FT7d one of the best gf'ers in the game recently, someone who practically never ft7s, not gunna say who, I beat them 7-2, and they complained to me how I had no skill because all I was doing was stunning. Well, said player would throw the same bait feint combo like 70 percent the time it was his turn to attack, and he'd move in the same direction everytime, how do you not expect me to stun you when you do that.
Strategy? Literally all you have to do in duelling is to punish your opponent's mistakes and misplays and not make mistakes yourself.
dueling on EU is nonexistent, you have no say
dueling on EU is nonexistent, you have no say
I have every say!
dueling on EU is nonexistent, you have no say
I have every say!
EU and anime.... no
SpoilerBut wait, yo boy is back[close]
All time leading list could use an update. For sure, but if it was me. I'd move AsianP above Karth/Zen, I won't comment on Breaches/Tico, but from what every 12th player says, Tico never led. Apoc was being far too kind to his fellow old gen Grimsight, the original Lawbringer. Grim should be down in the mid 80's. Millander, Stox, Zorkoth have no place on a all time competitive leading list. Godfreid should be bump down to a 81. Knightofsaintjohn is a well deserve 87 one of the best leaders I ever seen. Alexander should be a 86. It's criminal to have CheeseyPants outside the 90's especially after his TNWL win. Russian/Waste as a combo should be a 87 reasonably (i'd personally think a 90). PurplePanda/Windflower as a combo should be a 82 you could argue for even a 84 if people wanted (only regiment to be a contender in every league they joined without a melee carry).
Everyone below 80 should just be removed. People like Marceaux, CommissarJDF, Nappy and Irish deserve to be on the list, but where? Probably in the high 70's low 80's.
If Russian and waste are a 90 then Irish is a 99
Wins NWL with bunchofpoachedcarries.exeFtfy
Shit shit
Ok lads
Wins NWL with bunchofpoachedcarries.exeFtfy
Shit shit
Ok lads
You already know dawg
The 6te dinkleberry dunked on all yo asses in its latest iteration give Irish at least some credit6te 6 - 4 LG lmao
Refused to ever play us again :(The 6te dinkleberry dunked on all yo asses in its latest iteration give Irish at least some credit6te 6 - 4 LG lmao
If I was leading 91st vs 6teSLR we would have won.Have you ever been in a 1 hour round? Nuh uh. He's gonna just outlast your pathetic-cardio body
I've been outleading noobs like Irish who run away for an hour since before most of you bought NW.
If you go back to the video, I was in spectator for 50 minutes of that round xoxoIf I was leading 91st vs 6teSLR we would have won.Have you ever been in a 1 hour round? Nuh uh. He's gonna just outlast your pathetic-cardio body
I've been outleading noobs like Irish who run away for an hour since before most of you bought NW.
Only 50? Disgusting. You are not a true witness to The Round.If you go back to the video, I was in spectator for 50 minutes of that round xoxoIf I was leading 91st vs 6teSLR we would have won.Have you ever been in a 1 hour round? Nuh uh. He's gonna just outlast your pathetic-cardio body
I've been outleading noobs like Irish who run away for an hour since before most of you bought NW.
I WAS WAITING TO PLAY MEH NWFL MATCH FAM
Only 50? Disgusting. You are not a true witness to The Round.If you go back to the video, I was in spectator for 50 minutes of that round xoxoIf I was leading 91st vs 6teSLR we would have won.Have you ever been in a 1 hour round? Nuh uh. He's gonna just outlast your pathetic-cardio body
I've been outleading noobs like Irish who run away for an hour since before most of you bought NW.
I WAS WAITING TO PLAY MEH NWFL MATCH FAM
Sadly the match didn't count :'(Refused to ever play us again :(The 6te dinkleberry dunked on all yo asses in its latest iteration give Irish at least some credit6te 6 - 4 LG lmao
Sorry dad.Only 50? Disgusting. You are not a true witness to The Round.If you go back to the video, I was in spectator for 50 minutes of that round xoxoIf I was leading 91st vs 6teSLR we would have won.Have you ever been in a 1 hour round? Nuh uh. He's gonna just outlast your pathetic-cardio body
I've been outleading noobs like Irish who run away for an hour since before most of you bought NW.
I WAS WAITING TO PLAY MEH NWFL MATCH FAM
Even tried to poach me!
Even tried to poach me!
Obviously none of you were apart of the 3 hour 1v1 of Nr37 vs MoskovGren
Luckily I have never been poached
Obviously none of you were apart of the 3 hour 1v1 of Nr37 vs MoskovGren
did this actually happen, 3 hours
Did you ref that?Obviously none of you were apart of the 3 hour 1v1 of Nr37 vs MoskovGren
did this actually happen, 3 hours
Ody in a nutshell
I remember that horrific match and it was actually 2 hours and 30 minutes. That's why there is a hill camping timer.Did you ref that?Obviously none of you were apart of the 3 hour 1v1 of Nr37 vs MoskovGren
did this actually happen, 3 hours
Ody in a nutshell
For all the haters out there
https://imgur.com/a/UStXXhW 8)
2 tks
For all the haters out thereNice.
https://imgur.com/a/UStXXhW 8)
2 tks
For all the haters out there
https://imgur.com/a/UStXXhW 8)
2 tks
lol look at your comp
For all the haters out thereHow did you manage to get such low quality screenshots in 2018, teach me.
https://imgur.com/a/UStXXhW 8)
2 tks
For all the haters out therenoice
https://imgur.com/a/UStXXhW 8)
2 tks
yes sir captain sirSpoilerFor all the haters out therenoice
https://imgur.com/a/UStXXhW 8)
2 tks[close]
Don't let this distract you from the fact that Vetro reached Colonel on FSE in a little over a year.
Wait a second.No you!
That's my rank.
You complete animal.
Vetro is just a sweaty forum warrior so he refreshes every 5 seconds with an auto refresher just to see if someone is talking shit about him tbhOooof
Vetro is just a sweaty forum warrior so he refreshes every 5 seconds with an auto refresher just to see if someone is talking shit about him tbhThis man tsktsk INTRODUCED me to this amazing tool such as the refresher...
because you cried to me about the Holdfast forum ranks not going up by posts, and you wanted to look like the best forum user and be a high rank really quicklyVetro is just a sweaty forum warrior so he refreshes every 5 seconds with an auto refresher just to see if someone is talking shit about him tbhThis man tsktsk INTRODUCED me to this amazing tool such as the refresher...
Disgustingbecause you cried to me about the Holdfast forum ranks not going up by posts, and you wanted to look like the best forum user and be a high rank really quicklyVetro is just a sweaty forum warrior so he refreshes every 5 seconds with an auto refresher just to see if someone is talking shit about him tbhThis man tsktsk INTRODUCED me to this amazing tool such as the refresher...
also did you just admit to using an auto refresher on FSE ::) :o
because you cried to me about the Holdfast forum ranks not going up by posts, and you wanted to look like the best forum user and be a high rank really quicklyVetro is just a sweaty forum warrior so he refreshes every 5 seconds with an auto refresher just to see if someone is talking shit about him tbhThis man tsktsk INTRODUCED me to this amazing tool such as the refresher...
also did you just admit to using an auto refresher on FSE ::) :o
Someone ban himbecause you cried to me about the Holdfast forum ranks not going up by posts, and you wanted to look like the best forum user and be a high rank really quicklyVetro is just a sweaty forum warrior so he refreshes every 5 seconds with an auto refresher just to see if someone is talking shit about him tbhThis man tsktsk INTRODUCED me to this amazing tool such as the refresher...
also did you just admit to using an auto refresher on FSE ::) :o
LOL !
Dan has google alerts set for his nameThis is my job
YesDan has google alerts set for his nameThis is my job
From now on ur all time rank will be determined in HoI4 matches.
From now on ur all time rank will be determined in HoI4 matches.
Alright, then I should be a 99 for my France strat.
From now on ur all time rank will be determined in HoI4 matches.
Alright, then I should be a 99 for my France strat.
Funny you mention that
Russian just did the same strat and cucked the shit out of me
I'd fuck all of you as the soviet union or germany. Fuck it'd beat you all as italyFrom now on ur all time rank will be determined in HoI4 matches.
Alright, then I should be a 99 for my France strat.
Funny you mention that
Russian just did the same strat and cucked the shit out of me
LOL rip
I'd fuck all of you as the soviet union or germany. Fuck it'd beat you all as italyFrom now on ur all time rank will be determined in HoI4 matches.
Alright, then I should be a 99 for my France strat.
Funny you mention that
Russian just did the same strat and cucked the shit out of me
LOL rip
How bout we play a less gay game like roblox football, I’ll take Apoc’s ankles in game then his spot on the all time list
I play old school and would rek all uHow bout we play a less gay game like roblox football, I’ll take Apoc’s ankles in game then his spot on the all time list
Roblox is an old meme
How bout we play a real game like Old School Runescape or Speedrunners
I play old school and would rek all uHow bout we play a less gay game like roblox football, I’ll take Apoc’s ankles in game then his spot on the all time list
Roblox is an old meme
How bout we play a real game like Old School Runescape or Speedrunners
How does it feel that the very old school classic runescape closes soon? Called your local suicide prevention link yet????
speedrunners is actually damn goodI play old school and would rek all uHow bout we play a less gay game like roblox football, I’ll take Apoc’s ankles in game then his spot on the all time list
Roblox is an old meme
How bout we play a real game like Old School Runescape or Speedrunners
Yeah? Lets go right now.
What did I miss?
Tagpro Tournament >
63e Tagpro vs 98e Tagpro lets do thisTagpro Tournament >
Fuck Tagpro. Its not happening.
How about 63e SMITE vs. 98e SMITE
Go fetch Squirts and maybe itll be interesting.
How about 63e SMITE vs. 98e SMITE
Go fetch Squirts and maybe itll be interesting.
Squirts is the only non Asian to play that shit game in the 63e as far as I know. Other than him idk anyone else that does so gg you guys win this round. Tagpro next.
The 45e reigns superior in non mount and blade games, give us a week to practice and we’ll beat you in anything
oh good its a shitshow of shitposting garbage video games
The 45e reigns superior in non mount and blade games, give us a week to practice and we’ll beat you in anything
challenge accepted, see you in smite.
The 45e reigns superior in non mount and blade games, give us a week to practice and we’ll beat you in anything
challenge accepted, see you in smite.
sounds good, our home field match will be in tagpro
Attention NW Community:
I formally renounce my allegiance to the OG 45e and its constituents. I now exist solely as a pawn of Godfreid. As such, I pledge my allegiance to the 98e and Godfreid, if he chooses to accept.
Since the 45e is basically the 63e now, Karth is on their side. Beware.
The 45e reigns superior in non mount and blade games, give us a week to practice and we’ll beat you in anything
No one is beating the Waste, Boob and Russian trifecta at Civ 5.kovy bill and i could annihilate you anyday
No one is beating the Waste, Boob and Russian trifecta at Civ 5.1v1 us At War
7-4 vs Suns, nickcole spec'dCan confirm!!
AtWar @LGOk kid just wait until I get my laptop next week
I have four spare copies of Railroad Tycoon 2 if somebody wants to tryhard on that.yes pls i miss 2009 tycoon nostalgia
Where's the civ 5 option
Are you still accepting hot takes on your list?
put civ 5 in there
Why would I put Civ 5 and not Civ 6?are u saying runescape is eternal???
Its 2018, get with the times.
Why would I put Civ 5 and not Civ 6?Cause Civ 6 is ass?
Its 2018, get with the times.
Why would I put Civ 5 and not Civ 6?are u saying runescape is eternal???
Its 2018, get with the times.
Why would I put Civ 5 and not Civ 6?Cause Civ 6 is ass?
Its 2018, get with the times.
Why would I put Civ 5 and not Civ 6?Cause Civ 6 is ass?
Its 2018, get with the times.
unfortunately, like no one is going to vote for smite :-\They fear my crappy Susano jungle strats
Where is Crusader Kings 2 or Men of War Assault Squad 2 (Robz mod)?
Where is Crusader Kings 2 or Men of War Assault Squad 2 (Robz mod)?
Don't own Men of War
Crusader Kings 2 wouldn't make much sense lol.
Where is Crusader Kings 2 or Men of War Assault Squad 2 (Robz mod)?
Don't own Men of War
Crusader Kings 2 wouldn't make much sense lol.
if you vote 2007 runescape your paypal will become 2 dollars richer
if you vote 2007 runescape your paypal will become 2 dollars richer
saying civ 6 is better than civ shows you're a normie who never truly loved civ
As a man who has put countless hours into civ 3, 4, and 5 I can say 5 is the best. 6 is a good game don't get me wrong but it changes too much for me to like it. If they would have just improved on some things in civ 5 I would have been much happier.
Also I bet LG could win in AOE also
Spoiler(https://i.gyazo.com/54c972280434f0e3b3f181182acd5841.png)[close]
godfreid and shinto unite vs russian and his idiot
We have a secret weapon in the LGAs a man who has put countless hours into civ 3, 4, and 5 I can say 5 is the best. 6 is a good game don't get me wrong but it changes too much for me to like it. If they would have just improved on some things in civ 5 I would have been much happier.
Also I bet LG could win in AOE also
You forget the AoE battles of the 7NA TS you meme
this all time list is retarded, literally if you were good in 2k13, youre put on. but the average meleer at this time, would beat the fuck out of the average 2k13 meleer. Apoc literally said it in his recent video that all they did was block and feint.
My hot take is coming soon Theo, be patient. All will be resolved because AP0C has to respecC my opinion as a fellow old genI await this take with hope that some seriously strange ratings will be addressed
It's Colony guys get it right. But yea agreed 89.
It's Colony guys get it right. But yea agreed 89.
If we wanna get specific its Colonys
Smfh, I was told a new gen was trashing talking old gen. So here I come to give the young buck some support... and what do I find? With his filthy mouth he dares to disrespect Psycho?
How can I support someone who trash talks a member of the Marins? The greatest arty guard regiment in NW history, Psycho not only was a Marins, but he taught the 2FA, the second greatest arty regiment how to defend their arty piece.
(https://dreamgifs5.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/untitled-29.gif)
Colonies is an autoblocker take him off
Marins were the OG Arty Gods, going all the way back to MM. If you ever go to a pub linebattle people type gg when a noob gets 3 kills with 1 arty shot. Back in my day it took 12-20 people getting killed by 1 cannon to get a GG which the Marins did on a consistent basis, were also good at howies and mortars when they came to NW.People have also learned not to run in a straight line at Arty like Monty used to do
Waste remember when you poached me from the PSG and made me join the Nr37 🤦♂️.Remember when you left like 11 times to make Nr11 and stuff. But you always came back <3
Waste remember when you poached me from the PSG and made me join the Nr37 🤦♂️.
The thing was people always played what was most effective at the time. I can guarantee you that if the upstab was still the same speed it was, people would still mainly use blocking and feinting. Know why? For starters it'd be much riskier to chamber. Seriously, If you want a good experience of what NW was like, go play With Fire and Sword and try to 1v1 people with a Spear. It's basically just like the bayonet in NW on steroids, and I guarantee you anyone who thinks that someone who can only block and feint really well is not good will probably have their ass kicked.You cant make an all time list and base it off it was at the time like this, it's a very shallow pool, but in things like mma otw okay since there's 5 million people vs 40 people in this list. And most of these people were awful anyways
Besides melee speed, I know alot of newgens who don't even know what a double x is, cause that shit got patched out. I also guarantee that if that was still around, It'd be a different game. Blocking and feinting used to be an art because it was hard, which is something that just isn't true today.
What I said on the podcast was back in ye olden days, it was all people did, because it was the best way to do things. The fact remains it's alot harder and riskier to have a stun reliant meta like today in a world with much faster stabs and much, much better feints. Even block chambering wasn't a thing because the stun on attacks just wasn't what it is today.
The thing was people always played what was most effective at the time. I can guarantee you that if the upstab was still the same speed it was, people would still mainly use blocking and feinting. Know why? For starters it'd be much riskier to chamber. Seriously, If you want a good experience of what NW was like, go play With Fire and Sword and try to 1v1 people with a Spear. It's basically just like the bayonet in NW on steroids, and I guarantee you anyone who thinks that someone who can only block and feint really well is not good will probably have their ass kicked.You cant make an all time list and base it off it was at the time like this, it's a very shallow pool, but in things like mma otw okay since there's 5 million people vs 40 people in this list. And most of these people were awful anyways
Besides melee speed, I know alot of newgens who don't even know what a double x is, cause that shit got patched out. I also guarantee that if that was still around, It'd be a different game. Blocking and feinting used to be an art because it was hard, which is something that just isn't true today.
What I said on the podcast was back in ye olden days, it was all people did, because it was the best way to do things. The fact remains it's alot harder and riskier to have a stun reliant meta like today in a world with much faster stabs and much, much better feints. Even block chambering wasn't a thing because the stun on attacks just wasn't what it is today.
Let me get this through your rotting poor excuse of a body, these people fucking sucked played the game for a year maybe 2 max, that ain't shit to base off of, they would like as you said, rely upon one fucking thing, once that shit was able to be countered or patched, these nerds fell off, or just dissapeared.The thing was people always played what was most effective at the time. I can guarantee you that if the upstab was still the same speed it was, people would still mainly use blocking and feinting. Know why? For starters it'd be much riskier to chamber. Seriously, If you want a good experience of what NW was like, go play With Fire and Sword and try to 1v1 people with a Spear. It's basically just like the bayonet in NW on steroids, and I guarantee you anyone who thinks that someone who can only block and feint really well is not good will probably have their ass kicked.You cant make an all time list and base it off it was at the time like this, it's a very shallow pool, but in things like mma otw okay since there's 5 million people vs 40 people in this list. And most of these people were awful anyways
Besides melee speed, I know alot of newgens who don't even know what a double x is, cause that shit got patched out. I also guarantee that if that was still around, It'd be a different game. Blocking and feinting used to be an art because it was hard, which is something that just isn't true today.
What I said on the podcast was back in ye olden days, it was all people did, because it was the best way to do things. The fact remains it's alot harder and riskier to have a stun reliant meta like today in a world with much faster stabs and much, much better feints. Even block chambering wasn't a thing because the stun on attacks just wasn't what it is today.
Why the hell not can't I make an all time list and take into account the mechanics of the game back then?
Alot of the players I see now would get their asses handed to them back in 2012-2013. They would see a double x and die immediately because they wouldn't know what the hell hit them, or they would try to chamber upstabs and just get rekt. On the flip side, alot of players who were good back then are still good, assuming they have played actively enough to not lose their mechanics, because there are less mechanics now, not more.
An all time list is about recognizing skill, thats literally it. I don't what retarded logic you are trying to advance but seriously, I invite you to go do my test on With FIre and Sword. Go duel someone good with spears then get back to me on whatever the hell it is you are thinking.
Remember when loyalty was a thingIt seems I'm the only loyal player in NW. Heil Karth.
Wait nvm it never was
"these newgens are terrible because they would totally die to something that they've never fought before that was patched out of the game!!!!" - Ap0c
retard logic
It really is though. Seriously, if they added a patch tommorrow that straight up removed the up stab, so the game was literally only downstabs, that wouldn't detract from the skill of the players who had played the game up until that point when suddenly nobody could kill anybody. That would change the game and the performance of those players, but not their skill.You're an idiot, people don't rely on the upstab it's not there only attack retard, but as I was saying earlier there "skill" lasted for maybe a year until everyone figured out how to counter it, then they were shot a perfect example is you now, relied upon block chambering, now your playing and you're about as good as a windows 95 , slow af and outdated.
Hey apoc are we still playing the hoi4 game?
I mean, I never 'relied' upon block-chambering. Ever. I was considered really good long before I even really started using it all that much.We did but we weren't sure if you wanted to keep playing.
I would say the reason I am not that good anymore maybe has something to do with going 2 entire years without playing the game, coming back, and still barely playing.
I didn't think the need to practice and keep your game in top shape was such a complicated and foreign concept to you but hey, if you were sharp in the head at all, I probably would have heard of you before now.Hey apoc are we still playing the hoi4 game?
I dunno, did you guys stop? I just got off to go to bed.
I mean, I never 'relied' upon block-chambering. Ever. I was considered really good long before I even really started using it all that much.The only reason I've ever heard of you was from that fat ass tiny chat pic. And yeah if u plan on coming back to a game at all and plan on being in an all time list you better be fucking good.
I would say the reason I am not that good anymore maybe has something to do with going 2 entire years without playing the game, coming back, and still barely playing.
I didn't think the need to practice and keep your game in top shape was such a complicated and foreign concept to you but hey, if you were sharp in the head at all, I probably would have heard of you before now.Hey apoc are we still playing the hoi4 game?
I dunno, did you guys stop? I just got off to go to bed.
I only did that once xD and I joined 39th cuz I was finished with my job in the LG!!Waste remember when you poached me from the PSG and made me join the Nr37 🤦♂️.Remember when you left like 11 times to make Nr11 and stuff. But you always came back <3
I only ask a couple of 39th people that I recruited into 39th not any original 39th!Waste remember when you poached me from the PSG and made me join the Nr37 🤦♂️.
NickCole remember when you poached Dodge’s entire Holdfast regiment and made them join the 93rd
I mean, I never 'relied' upon block-chambering. Ever. I was considered really good long before I even really started using it all that much.The only reason I've ever heard of you was from that fat ass tiny chat pic. And yeah if u plan on coming back to a game at all and plan on being in an all time list you better be fucking good.
I would say the reason I am not that good anymore maybe has something to do with going 2 entire years without playing the game, coming back, and still barely playing.
I didn't think the need to practice and keep your game in top shape was such a complicated and foreign concept to you but hey, if you were sharp in the head at all, I probably would have heard of you before now.Hey apoc are we still playing the hoi4 game?
I dunno, did you guys stop? I just got off to go to bed.
Sigh old gens made this list so they could feel relevant, but yet again an old gen admits defeat to the superior new gen, buh-bye rust bucket.I mean, I never 'relied' upon block-chambering. Ever. I was considered really good long before I even really started using it all that much.The only reason I've ever heard of you was from that fat ass tiny chat pic. And yeah if u plan on coming back to a game at all and plan on being in an all time list you better be fucking good.
I would say the reason I am not that good anymore maybe has something to do with going 2 entire years without playing the game, coming back, and still barely playing.
I didn't think the need to practice and keep your game in top shape was such a complicated and foreign concept to you but hey, if you were sharp in the head at all, I probably would have heard of you before now.Hey apoc are we still playing the hoi4 game?
I dunno, did you guys stop? I just got off to go to bed.
I was on it way before I made this thread. This list was made in 2015, and I did not change anything about where I was.
>admits defeat
? The hell are you on about?
Ah well. I'm not autistic enough to understand you.
I also literally made this thread to put some new people on it who weren't old gens, along with bumping alot of old gens down a few points. Only old gens to get a raise was Asian and Havoc really, and they are relevant right now.
Apoc is wack
>admits defeat
? The hell are you on about?
Ah well. I'm not autistic enough to understand you.
I also literally made this thread to put some new people on it who weren't old gens, along with bumping alot of old gens down a few points. Only old gens to get a raise was Asian and Havoc really, and they are relevant right now.
I deserve a raise u cuck
please do a smite tournament
if you want some real melee how about u go to the gym and take up boxing
Let me get this through your rotting poor excuse of a body, these people fucking sucked played the game for a year maybe 2 max, that ain't shit to base off of, they would like as you said, rely upon one fucking thing, once that shit was able to be countered or patched, these nerds fell off, or just dissapeared.
"these newgens are terrible because they would totally die to something that they've never fought before that was patched out of the game!!!!" - Ap0c
retard logic
this all time list is retarded, literally if you were good in 2k13, youre put on. but the average meleer at this time, would beat the fuck out of the average 2k13 meleer. Apoc literally said it in his recent video that all they did was block and feint.u can't even block 4 attack directions why are u talking
I can’t either :(this all time list is retarded, literally if you were good in 2k13, youre put on. but the average meleer at this time, would beat the fuck out of the average 2k13 meleer. Apoc literally said it in his recent video that all they did was block and feint.u can't even block 4 attack directions why are u talking
has it been enough time for there to be old gens, new gens and new new gens?Yes.
https://youtu.be/1WyfHhHWX_MInclude 63e but leave me out? I'm only the guy known for being in the 63e... smh
a remake of one of the classic 9y videos featuring the 98e and guests (63e, 87th, aef, 71st, others)
https://youtu.be/1WyfHhHWX_M
a remake of one of the classic 9y videos featuring the 98e and guests (63e, 87th, aef, 71st, others)
ifukin killed MK blake fk u mk blake i dont know who u are but ez 7-0 on my recordhttps://youtu.be/1WyfHhHWX_M
a remake of one of the classic 9y videos featuring the 98e and guests (63e, 87th, aef, 71st, others)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDYBL70eReo
-Moved Grimsight down in all time leaders. Yeah, you heard me Grim. Come back to FSE and fight me on it.
All time leading list could use an update. For sure, but if it was me. I'd move AsianP above Karth/Zen, I won't comment on Breaches/Tico, but from what every 12th player says, Tico never led. Apoc was being far too kind to his fellow old gen Grimsight, the original Lawbringer. Grim should be down in the mid 80's. Millander, Stox, Zorkoth have no place on a all time competitive leading list. Godfreid should be bump down to a 81. Knightofsaintjohn is a well deserve 87 one of the best leaders I ever seen. Alexander should be a 86. It's criminal to have CheeseyPants outside the 90's especially after his TNWL win. Russian/Waste as a combo should be a 87 reasonably (i'd personally think a 90). PurplePanda/Windflower as a combo should be a 82 you could argue for even a 84 if people wanted (only regiment to be a contender in every league they joined without a melee carry).
Grim didnt u die
i hate old gens like grim
old gens are lame
funny how everyone comes back when I comeback and start dominating the game.
they've come to see the one and the only, grimsight,kovyjack,chantakey PJ, here to watch the best ever do his thing
aint no one has better gf'ing IQ than I do, put me on the good team ill top frag, put me on the trash team, ill still top frag, EVERYTIME
consistency motherfucker
gunna have to agree with sleek on that one, even though hes a shitter that goes negative 9 out of 10 times in groupfights, and depends on me to carry his reg, old gens have the gayest styles that are dependent on range spamming and sidestepping
funny how everyone comes back when I comeback and start dominating the game.
they've come to see the one and the only, grimsight,kovyjack,chantakey PJ, here to watch the best ever do his thing
aint no one has better gf'ing IQ than I do, put me on the good team ill top frag, put me on the trash team, ill still top frag, EVERYTIME
consistency motherfucker
i made matt the homerun king run back home "im gonna quit the game gl everybody!" after i exposed him for hacking LOLOL
gunna have to agree with sleek on that one, even though hes a shitter that goes negative 9 out of 10 times in groupfights, and depends on me to carry his reg, old gens have the gayest styles that are dependent on range spamming and sidestepping
catch this ft7 try beating me sometime LMAOOOOOOOO
funny how everyone comes back when I comeback and start dominating the game.
they've come to see the one and the only, grimsight,kovyjack,chantakey PJ, here to watch the best ever do his thing
aint no one has better gf'ing IQ than I do, put me on the good team ill top frag, put me on the trash team, ill still top frag, EVERYTIME
consistency motherfucker
i made matt the homerun king run back home "im gonna quit the game gl everybody!" after i exposed him for hacking LOLOL
I'm sorry suns the 7-1,7-1,7-2,7-6 and outfragging you in every gf in the past month has made you salty.
Let me play the worlds smallest violin for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAlTOfl9F2w
mane its some funny shit, since getting my underrated spot of 90 people have been dickriding me constantly on bob groupfight, NW celebrity baby thats what happens when you are just the best ever people cant stop thinking about you i guessI knew one day this meme would be useful.
Check this shit out
https://challonge.com/ticoissogood
https://challonge.com/napoleonicwars1v1nadueltourney
https://challonge.com/Meleetourny
AP0C, I'm here to make a complaint about Godfreid. he isn't going to finish the current melee list and never will. punish him for eternity
voilen
AP0C, I'm here to make a complaint about Godfreid. he isn't going to finish the current melee list and never will. punish him for eternity
I had to look up what absolute unit meant. I'm not sure you're complimenting my skill in the game or just calling me fat.Absolute
Check this shit out
https://challonge.com/ticoissogood
https://challonge.com/napoleonicwars1v1nadueltourney
https://challonge.com/Meleetourny
Check this shit outAnd we’re still underselling Ghost even though that looks like dueling results to me
https://challonge.com/ticoissogood
https://challonge.com/napoleonicwars1v1nadueltourney
https://challonge.com/Meleetourny
Check this shit out
https://challonge.com/ticoissogood
https://challonge.com/napoleonicwars1v1nadueltourney
https://challonge.com/Meleetourny
HAVOC's HOT TAKE:ALL TIME MELEE
(reasoning in spoilers)SpoilerJackieChan – 95Tammo – 94SpoilerJackie is the best player to touch this game in NA mostly because his knowledge of dueling vastly surpassed everyone else’s when he came here from EU. Us NA plebs had been dicking around with stuns and feints and were good, but there was no understanding of it. We started to really master the game mechanics shortly after Jackie came and taught most of us. I remember facing him in the 3rd duel tournament and he was hitting me with stun kicks and block chambers, a tactic I hadn’t seen anyone really utilize extensively up until that point. This tournament was retarded and was only ft4, and I ended up losing 3-4. Maybe given more time I would have beaten Jackie in a ft7, but for someone I’d never dueled before he was really fucking good. Unfortunately, I left the game shortly after Jackie came to NA so I never truly got to compare myself to him, but I think it would have been an interesting matchup. Anyways, Jackie has raw talent and high game IQ. He dominated the game longer than anybody else and definitely deserves the top spot.[close]AsianP – 93SpoilerTammo was my best bud in the 2nd QF. We were constantly dueling each other, coming up with new moves, and going back and forth over who was better than the other. Tammo was a fantastic groupfighter, though we threw in that one 2v2 tournament, and one of the best duelists in the game. In our public linebattles with the 2nd QF I remember Tammo throwing down massive clutches against the noobs who had no idea how to block. Those were the days… Tammo dominated the game alongside Jackie and was an all around great dude to be around. He deserves the second spot.[close]RitZ - 91SpoilerAsianP has maintained a high level of consistency throughout his NW career. He’s always been a great groupfighter, a great duelist, and a great leader. In the old gen days he didn’t achieve a whole lot of success, and for that I would dock him a point from a 94 to a 93. Nevertheless, he’s undoubtedly a phenomenal player now. Or at least a year ago when he still played somewhat consistently.[close]Russianfury – 91SpoilerRitZ (a.k.a. Zach a.k.a. Big Z) is definitely on par with AsianP in how long he’s played and how much better he’s gotten since the beginning. I remember I was super surprised at how good Zach had gotten when I came back to the game because he was such a scrub when I left. From what I’ve witnessed, his dueling skills are pretty good and he’s one of the best stun kickers in the game. His game knowledge is some of the best I’ve ever seen (on par with Godfreid, Jackie, AsianP).[close]Godfreid – 91SpoilerRussian is the opposite of Godfreid. He has the highest groupfighting IQ of any player I’ve played with in my career. He has dominated the modern groupfighting scene longer than anyone else that still plays. As a duelist he is somewhere below peak Pinoy near Runepkyz and above Waste. As much as I make fun of him for not being able to, he can chamber and he can stun kick. He’s also got some pretty great feints. He’s also one of the best leaders in 1v1s I’ve ever played with - near Breaches. He and Waste deserve a spot in the top 90s for all-time leading.[close]Havoc -SpoilerGodfreid is hands down the best duelist I’ve faced in the game. He has dominated consistently in dueling longer than anyone else. His knowledge of the game is extremely high and he might have the highest game IQ of anyone I’ve talked to mostly because he actually thinks about it and tests mechanics. The reason I would take points away from Godfreid is because his groupfighting skill lags behind his dueling skill. Godfreid rarely top frags, but to be fair frags are definitely not everything in a groupfight. He is still a good asset to have in groupfight as a support player. His strengths are pulling one side and surviving because he plays so defensively, but against an intelligent team, he will get locked down. What I’ve witnessed directly from watching Godfreid groupfight is that he is on par with players like Sleek or Theodin.[close]Ghost – 91SpoilerThe people can decide what to make of me.[close]Billthebutcher – 91SpoilerGhost was moving up in the game in 2013 and obviously has since become one of the best players in the game through consistent playing. I never saw him at his peak, but I have a good idea based on his trajectory between when I last played with him in 2013 and when I last played with him when he came back for a bit in 2017. Really high game IQ and immense skill at the game after so much time played.[close]Lithios – 90SpoilerBill from the segment of his prime that I’ve witnessed is a phenomenal fragger in groupfights and a really strong duelist. He has extremely good upstab footlances, fantastic quick up-down feints, and really effective block chambers. However, he can’t clutch for his life and his skill diminishes as soon as you put someone who knows how to block footlances in his way or his teammates die. Moreover, Bill’s skill in the game has diminished and from my perspective his dominance was in part due to the lower skill of the community he played against. Nevertheless, Bill deserves a spot in the top 90s due to that level of dominance he showed for a period of time.[close]Pointblank – 89SpoilerLithios was one of the best groupfighters I faced in my time. He was extremely dominant and mastered the art of clutching 1v2s, 1v3s, and 1v4s. His dueling was also pretty strong, but again he never found a whole lot of success in that arena. I am pretty sure he won some tournaments with the 9y or 1stFKI crew but I may be misremembering. His career was also somewhat short-lived. Had he played longer, he would be way up there.[close]Maple - 89SpoilerPointblank is very similar in ability to Lithios. I remember him being a serious contender in duel tourney's but he never found success. He was a great groupfighter but not as good as someone like Lithios.[close]Suns - 89SpoilerI wasn’t around when Maple started playing. When I first came back to the game, Maple was the first guy to I trained with to get back into dueling. I think I missed Maple’s peak and I’ve only really witnessed his decline as I was beating him in ft7s on day one I got back. His groupfighting skills are good at times, and poor at others. He’s a fairly good mid-player when he’s hot, but most other times he’s too much of a duel hero to make an impact. Because I presumably haven’t seen him at his peak, I rate him an 89.[close]Yoshie – 88SpoilerReally good duelist. Great stun kicks and swing stabs. Strong downstab groupfighter. I’d say he has fallen off recently and doesn’t match his previous skill level from about 8 months ago when he was at the top of his game. I’d rate him an 88 if not for his previous performance level.[close]Colonys22 - 88SpoilerI don’t know why Yoshie is so underrated on this list. Yes he is a new gen but he's pretty damn good for one. He’s got a really high groupfighting IQ and is sweaty enough to study EU groupfight videos. He’s had some massive carries I’ve only seen players like Bill, Russian, and AsianP put up. He’s also a pretty decent duelist. Definitely better than Waste and maybe on par with someone like Runepkyz.[close]Kovy - 88SpoilerColonys was one of the youngest players to be good at the game back in the day. He was useful to have on a groupfighting team, but never a carry until more recent times. He won a duel tournament that no one showed up to, but he was never a phenomenal duelist, and he is much better with a sword. His duel skill is similar to a player like Mathias, Runepkyz, or Waste (on Waste’s good days).[close]DjOverjoy – 88SpoilerKovy is a really strong duelist and a great groupfighter. He’s near Runepkyz in groupfighting skill and slightly better in dueling skill than a player like NickCole.[close]Pinoy – 88SpoilerDj is a great groupfighter, on par with players like Kovy and Pinoy. His holds and camera-play are really effective at getting players to miss their blocks. Great teammate to work with and smart groupfighting mind. I’d be tempted to push him to an 89 but his dueling skill is slightly below Kovy and Pinoy’s from their primes.[close]Hellomoto – 88SpoilerPinoy was one of the best groupfighters in the game at a certain point, but he’s since lost it quite a bit. He was a pretty strong duelist last time I played against him but he rarely duels anymore. Really close to Maple in duel skill and slightly better than Runepkyz.[close]Achilles - 87SpoilerI’d definitely say Moto is on par with a player like Coconut. Maybe slightly better. He’s got really good stun chambers at least when I throw him an easy stab. He’s a pain in the ass when I face him in groupfights and a really good teammate. Definitely has the ability to be a really dominant player if he was a tryhard.[close]Coconut – 87SpoilerHe was a pretty decent groupfighter from what little I saw. He’s probably near Coconut.[close]Runepkyz – 87SpoilerCoconut joined the 12th and was a good player. He was on a lot of 12th groupfighting teams and got a lot of groupfighting titles to his name because of that, however he was never a carry. He never had much dueling success from the tournaments I’ve looked at. Perhaps he improved in ability in 2014- but I never saw it.[close]Rafael – 87SpoilerReally good gfer and decent duelist. Ever so slightly lower in skill than someone like Hellomoto.[close]Anthony – 87SpoilerRaf is a really strong player and a great patient duelist. His stuns and swing stabs are really strong. He’s an impactful groupfighter at moments where he’s hot. He is similar to Suns in that his skill level has diminished as he plays less.[close]Silentman – 87SpoilerAnthony is a really good duelist from what I’ve experienced in the short span of time I played with him. He’s also a good groupfighter but blocks way too much.[close]Serpenta – 87SpoilerIf Silentman is on this list then Bot should be too. Silentman was a fantastic groupfighter on public servers, though he never really participated in competitive tournaments. He is a relic of what the community used to be like back in 2012-2013, where even the randoms were really fucking good at the game. His career was short-lived and quiet. (He was good but you can’t rate him that high lol)[close]Tico – 87SpoilerSerpenta was really OP for a really short period of time.[close]Mathias – 87SpoilerTico has always been a good player. He’s a strong duelist with good stun chambers. Very similar in skill to a player like Hellomoto.[close]Breaches - 87SpoilerI’d saw he’s very similar in skill level to Coconut. I believe he won one of those empty duel tournaments as well. I’d rate him the same as Coconut.[close]Vortex – 86SpoilerBreaches was really good at the leading aspect but never that outstanding at the game except when he was 2v2ing with Zorkoth. Phenomenal teamwork in that scenario.[close]Sleek - 86SpoilerSolid all-around player.[close]Puppytron - 86SpoilerBlocking a lot can only get you so far[close]Zorkoth – 86SpoilerPretty good but would be much better if he ever tried.[close]Fireboy – 85SpoilerHe was pretty good, cmon guys. At least as good as someone like Puppytron.[close]Steven – 84SpoilerDefinitely on par with a player like Rafael in group fighting but as a duelist he is not good.[close]Maccle – 83SpoilerReally good feint chambers. I don’t hear much about 63e players. Maybe he’d be better if he played with the other kids.[close]Who- 83SpoilerGets carried all the time.[close]Monty – 83SpoilerBased on everything I saw I’d give him an 83. Maybe he got better.[close]SpoilerThe guy who got me to play this game… I’d bump him up at least a bit. He didn’t play that long but as a duelist he was pretty well known for his Michael J. Fox feints. Back when feinting was much more effective he was a pretty strong duelist. We didn’t groupfight much back then and I can’t remember much about 1v1 frags so that’s all I got.[close][close]
PLAYERS I CAN'T RATE:SpoilerAP0CALYPS3MangSpoilerI don't really remember if AP0C won any tournaments in the old gen days. And after that I have no idea because I never played with him beyond 2013. He was definitely a player that I found challenging to face in duels at times, but I’d say when last I saw him, he was more on par with 2013 Ghost before he made it to the 2nd duel tournament finals against me. For example, if I’m thinking of how he matched up against players in 2013 I’d put him somewhere near AsianP and Colonys when they weren't in their prime yet.[close]AlexanderSpoilerI never played with him. Apparently he had low ping.[close]DarthJezus –SpoilerI never played with him.[close]DragonPuffSpoilerNot much I can think of. Similar to Coconut but with a shorter career. Can’t think of a rating.[close]Zzethh –SpoilerI don’t know him.[close]Emo CelestiaSpoilerOne of my favorite people in the 12th. I never saw him play after he came to US so I won’t give him a rating but he was absolute garbage before that <3. Pedro is immensely better with his ping than Zzethh was with his.[close]BladeSpoilerI maybe saw him twice ever. Apparently he has ridiculous feints, but I never saw anything that stood out. I can’t give him a rating.[close]MooseSpoilerNever played with him outside of Nord Invasion, so can’t give him a rating.[close]SkinnySpoilerI don't know him.[close]RogelioSpoilerHeard of him, but never played with him.[close]PsychoSpoilerI’ve never actually played with him. Only when Jackie played in his spot in the duel tournament.[close]ChevSpoilerSame opinion about him as DarthJezus.[close]SlickSpoilerI don’t know him.[close]ScopesSpoilerI don’t know him.[close]SaltyySpoilerI feel like I should know him but I don’t. Is this the guy with the deep voice?[close]FalloutSpoilerHe never stood out skill-wise when I played with him and I missed everything after that so I really don’t know.[close]MATTSpoilerI don’t know him.[close]XerothSpoilerMATT’s been putting in a weirdly high amount of hours when no one else is. Accordingly, he's currently one of the best duelists in this dead game. He's working his way up to be a strong groupfighter. He’s got a lot to learn still about groupfigthing but he’s a pretty decent teammate to work with because all he does is upstab so up-downs are pretty straight-forward. He’s got some controversy surrounding him so I’ll hold off on rating him.[close]FancyPantsSpoilerIdk[close]RedrumSpoilerIdk[close]RicoSpoilerIdk[close]ZachAttackSpoilerHe was pretty decent at times a far as I remember.[close]RereSpoilerIdk[close]SpoilerI don’t remember how good he was but I’d guess he was decent.[close][close]
PLAYERS THAT SHOULD BE ADDED:SpoilerKrastinov – 88
KnightofStJohn – 88
Sanders – 88
Maniac – 87 (docked points for not dueling)
NickCole - 86
Runepkyz – 86
Cade – 86
Dom13 - 85[close]
No one remembers papa waste
How many 'top' players actually cheated? I feel like it's way higher then taken for granted.
I beat Matt 7-3.
Thanks for looking at my booklet! I made it to help the AEF. Note it’s not all the way done more slides on da way.I beat Matt 7-3.
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/14Z4YwjuC_wTr44_mtyQyiq3_AJc65lzxpN3fV4yI10Y/edit#slide=id.g3
PLAYERS THAT SHOULD BE ADDED:havic you are way too kind to some of these players imoSpoilerKrastinov – 88
KnightofStJohn – 87
Sanders – 88
Maniac – 87 (docked points for not dueling)
NickCole - 86
Runepkyz – 86
Cade – 86
Dom13 - 85
Waste - 85[close]
QuotePLAYERS THAT SHOULD BE ADDED:havic you are way too kind to some of these players imoSpoilerKrastinov – 88
KnightofStJohn – 87
Sanders – 88
Maniac – 87 (docked points for not dueling)
NickCole - 86
Runepkyz – 86
Cade – 86
Dom13 - 85
Waste - 85[close]
QuotePLAYERS THAT SHOULD BE ADDED:havic you are way too kind to some of these players imoSpoilerKrastinov – 88
KnightofStJohn – 87
Sanders – 88
Maniac – 87 (docked points for not dueling)
NickCole - 86
Runepkyz – 86
Cade – 86
Dom13 - 85
Waste - 85[close]
such as
QuotePLAYERS THAT SHOULD BE ADDED:havic you are way too kind to some of these players imoSpoilerKrastinov – 88
KnightofStJohn – 87
Sanders – 88
Maniac – 87 (docked points for not dueling)
NickCole - 86
Runepkyz – 86
Cade – 86
Dom13 - 85
Waste - 85[close]
such as
Such as your garbage ass. Peasant.
That is actually a pretty nice looking melee guide. 87th as a similar one but way longer for new recruits that is really handy on how to play the game. Also why tf is Rico still on this All-Time list? He was barely good at all.Thanks for looking at my booklet! I made it to help the AEF. Note it’s not all the way done more slides on da way.I beat Matt 7-3.
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/14Z4YwjuC_wTr44_mtyQyiq3_AJc65lzxpN3fV4yI10Y/edit#slide=id.g3
Rico was one of my autistic children. Don't disrespect the kid. He was banned from the 63e faster than anyone I've ever seen.That is actually a pretty nice looking melee guide. 87th as a similar one but way longer for new recruits that is really handy on how to play the game. Also why tf is Rico still on this All-Time list? He was barely good at all.Thanks for looking at my booklet! I made it to help the AEF. Note it’s not all the way done more slides on da way.I beat Matt 7-3.
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/14Z4YwjuC_wTr44_mtyQyiq3_AJc65lzxpN3fV4yI10Y/edit#slide=id.g3
QuotePLAYERS THAT SHOULD BE ADDED:havic you are way too kind to some of these players imoSpoilerKrastinov – 88
KnightofStJohn – 87
Sanders – 88
Maniac – 87 (docked points for not dueling)
NickCole - 86
Runepkyz – 86
Cade – 86
Dom13 - 85
Waste - 85[close]
such as
Such as your garbage ass. Peasant.
QuotePLAYERS THAT SHOULD BE ADDED:havic you are way too kind to some of these players imoSpoilerKrastinov – 88
KnightofStJohn – 87
Sanders – 88
Maniac – 87 (docked points for not dueling)
NickCole - 86
Runepkyz – 86
Cade – 86
Dom13 - 85
Waste - 85[close]
such as
Such as your garbage ass. Peasant.
Fuck below krastinoob and maniac, now I have to come play againNo one remembers papa waste
Fixed. Stop being a forum warrior and come play idiot
(https://i.gyazo.com/14a99add548b5b7d255b85bbaf793049.png)Fuck below krastinoob and maniac, now I have to come play againNo one remembers papa waste
Fixed. Stop being a forum warrior and come play idiot
The world will come to understand my true power, I Waste destroyer of regiments, winner of tournaments, and slayer of men
Me after being gone for 3 months. I'm just a natural born NW prodigy what can I sayDo you mean you 3 months ago?Spoiler(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2435760853724296738/411961A13AF118B1B27F2CA5EC8F1C82B228BC01/)[close]
Nope I was home for 4 days between bootcamp and MCTMe after being gone for 3 months. I'm just a natural born NW prodigy what can I sayDo you mean you 3 months ago?Spoiler(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2435760853724296738/411961A13AF118B1B27F2CA5EC8F1C82B228BC01/)[close]
Come on havoc.... Lithios and Pointblank both below Bill on your all time list, tragedyBill had a much longer reign of dominance and many more tournament wins. He's also a very good player and I consider him on par skill-wise with Lithios and PB. PB had less skill in dueling than Bill for certain and Lithios didn't participate in many duel tournaments as far as I recall. One he did participate in he lost to Ghost before Ghost was even in his prime. I think the rating is accurate. Had Lithios and PB continued playing longer they would be much higher up as I mentioned in my explanation for Lithios' rating at least.
I know the get carried all the time thing is a meme but honestly havoc is really unqualified to rate me considering that he literally wasn't playing the game during my prime and the entire time he has been back ive had less than 5ish hours on mab in the past two weeks. Also is you talk to players who have actually played with me in tournaments such as pinoy or tammo or anyone else on fkmyass teams they will tell you that I carry more than i get carried.
HAVOC's HOT TAKE:ALL TIME MELEE
(reasoning in spoilers)SpoilerJackieChan – 95Tammo – 94SpoilerJackie is the best player to touch this game in NA mostly because his knowledge of dueling vastly surpassed everyone else’s when he came here from EU. Us NA plebs had been dicking around with stuns and feints and were good, but there was no understanding of it. We started to really master the game mechanics shortly after Jackie came and taught most of us. I remember facing him in the 3rd duel tournament and he was hitting me with stun kicks and block chambers, a tactic I hadn’t seen anyone really utilize extensively up until that point. This tournament was retarded and was only ft4, and I ended up losing 3-4. Maybe given more time I would have beaten Jackie in a ft7, but for someone I’d never dueled before he was really fucking good. Unfortunately, I left the game shortly after Jackie came to NA so I never truly got to compare myself to him, but I think it would have been an interesting matchup. Anyways, Jackie has raw talent and high game IQ. He dominated the game longer than anybody else and definitely deserves the top spot.[close]AsianP – 93SpoilerTammo was my best bud in the 2nd QF. We were constantly dueling each other, coming up with new moves, and going back and forth over who was better than the other. Tammo was a fantastic groupfighter, though we threw in that one 2v2 tournament, and one of the best duelists in the game. In our public linebattles with the 2nd QF I remember Tammo throwing down massive clutches against the noobs who had no idea how to block. Those were the days… Tammo dominated the game alongside Jackie and was an all around great dude to be around. He deserves the second spot.[close]RitZ - 91SpoilerAsianP has maintained a high level of consistency throughout his NW career. He’s always been a great groupfighter, a great duelist, and a great leader. In the old gen days he didn’t achieve a whole lot of success, and for that I would dock him a point from a 94 to a 93. Nevertheless, he’s undoubtedly a phenomenal player now. Or at least a year ago when he still played somewhat consistently.[close]Russianfury – 91SpoilerRitZ (a.k.a. Zach a.k.a. Big Z) is definitely on par with AsianP in how long he’s played and how much better he’s gotten since the beginning. I remember I was super surprised at how good Zach had gotten when I came back to the game because he was such a scrub when I left. From what I’ve witnessed, his dueling skills are pretty good and he’s one of the best stun kickers in the game. His game knowledge is some of the best I’ve ever seen (on par with Godfreid, Jackie, AsianP).[close]Godfreid – 91SpoilerRussian is the opposite of Godfreid. He has the highest groupfighting IQ of any player I’ve played with in my career. He has dominated the modern groupfighting scene longer than anyone else that still plays. As a duelist he is somewhere below peak Pinoy near Runepkyz and above Waste. As much as I make fun of him for not being able to, he can chamber and he can stun kick. He’s also got some pretty great feints. He’s also one of the best leaders in 1v1s I’ve ever played with - near Breaches. He and Waste deserve a spot in the top 90s for all-time leading.[close]Havoc -SpoilerGodfreid is hands down the best duelist I’ve faced in the game. He has dominated consistently in dueling longer than anyone else. His knowledge of the game is extremely high and he might have the highest game IQ of anyone I’ve talked to mostly because he actually thinks about it and tests mechanics. The reason I would take points away from Godfreid is because his groupfighting skill lags behind his dueling skill. Godfreid rarely top frags, but to be fair frags are definitely not everything in a groupfight. He is still a good asset to have in groupfight as a support player. His strengths are pulling one side and surviving because he plays so defensively, but against an intelligent team, he will get locked down. What I’ve witnessed directly from watching Godfreid groupfight is that he is on par with players like Sleek or Theodin.[close]Ghost – 91SpoilerThe people can decide what to make of me.[close]Billthebutcher – 91SpoilerGhost was moving up in the game in 2013 and obviously has since become one of the best players in the game through consistent playing. I never saw him at his peak, but I have a good idea based on his trajectory between when I last played with him in 2013 and when I last played with him when he came back for a bit in 2017. Really high game IQ and immense skill at the game after so much time played.[close]Lithios – 90SpoilerBill from the segment of his prime that I’ve witnessed is a phenomenal fragger in groupfights and a really strong duelist. He has extremely good upstab footlances, fantastic quick up-down feints, and really effective block chambers. However, he can’t clutch for his life and his skill diminishes as soon as you put someone who knows how to block footlances in his way or his teammates die. Moreover, Bill’s skill in the game has diminished and from my perspective his dominance was in part due to the lower skill of the community he played against. Nevertheless, Bill deserves a spot in the top 90s due to that level of dominance he showed for a period of time.[close]Pointblank – 89SpoilerLithios was one of the best groupfighters I faced in my time. He was extremely dominant and mastered the art of clutching 1v2s, 1v3s, and 1v4s. His dueling was also pretty strong, but again he never found a whole lot of success in that arena. I am pretty sure he won some tournaments with the 9y or 1stFKI crew but I may be misremembering. His career was also somewhat short-lived. Had he played longer, he would be way up there.[close]Maple - 89SpoilerPointblank is very similar in ability to Lithios. I remember him being a serious contender in duel tourney's but he never found success. He was a great groupfighter but not as good as someone like Lithios.[close]Suns - 88SpoilerI wasn’t around when Maple started playing. When I first came back to the game, Maple was the first guy to I trained with to get back into dueling. I think I missed Maple’s peak and I’ve only really witnessed his decline as I was beating him in ft7s on day one I got back. His groupfighting skills are good at times, and poor at others. He’s a fairly good mid-player when he’s hot, but most other times he’s too much of a duel hero to make an impact. Because I presumably haven’t seen him at his peak, I rate him an 89.[close]Yoshie – 88SpoilerReally good duelist. Great stun kicks and swing stabs. Strong downstab groupfighter. I’d say he has fallen off recently and doesn’t match his previous skill level from about 8 months ago when he was at the top of his game. I’d rate him an 88 if not for his previous performance level.[close]Colonys22 - 88SpoilerI don’t know why Yoshie is so underrated on this list. Yes he is a new gen but he's pretty damn good for one. He’s got a really high groupfighting IQ and is sweaty enough to study EU groupfight videos. He’s had some massive carries I’ve only seen players like Bill, Russian, and AsianP put up. He’s also a pretty decent duelist. Definitely better than Waste and maybe on par with someone like Runepkyz.[close]Kovy - 88SpoilerColonys was one of the youngest players to be good at the game back in the day. He was useful to have on a groupfighting team, but never a carry until more recent times. He won a duel tournament that no one showed up to, but he was never a phenomenal duelist, and he is much better with a sword. His duel skill is similar to a player like Mathias, Runepkyz, or Waste (on Waste’s good days).[close]DjOverjoy – 88SpoilerKovy is a really strong duelist and a great groupfighter. He’s near Runepkyz in groupfighting skill and slightly better in dueling skill than a player like NickCole.[close]Pinoy – 88SpoilerDj is a great groupfighter, on par with players like Kovy and Pinoy. His holds and camera-play are really effective at getting players to miss their blocks. Great teammate to work with and smart groupfighting mind. I’d be tempted to push him to an 89 but his dueling skill is slightly below Kovy and Pinoy’s from their primes.[close]Coconut – 87SpoilerPinoy was one of the best groupfighters in the game at a certain point, but he’s since lost it quite a bit. He was a pretty strong duelist last time I played against him but he rarely duels anymore. Really close to Maple in duel skill and slightly better than Runepkyz.[close]Rafael – 87SpoilerCoconut joined the 12th and was a good player. He was on a lot of 12th groupfighting teams and got a lot of groupfighting titles to his name because of that, however he was never a carry. He never had much dueling success from the tournaments I’ve looked at. Perhaps he improved in ability in 2014- but I never saw it.
"He was a genius at the game. Knew it better than anyone else" - Theodin[close]Hellomoto – 87SpoilerRaf is a really strong player and a great patient duelist. His stuns and swing stabs are really strong. He’s an impactful groupfighter at moments where he’s hot. He is similar to Suns in that his skill level has diminished as he plays less.[close]Achilles - 86SpoilerI’d definitely say Moto is on par with a player like Coconut. Maybe slightly better. He’s got really good stun chambers at least when I throw him an easy stab. He’s a pain in the ass when I face him in groupfights and a really good teammate. Definitely has the ability to be a really dominant player if he was a tryhard.[close]Runepkyz – 86SpoilerHe was a pretty decent groupfighter from what little I saw. He’s probably near Coconut.[close]Mathias – 86SpoilerReally good gfer and decent duelist. Ever so slightly lower in skill than someone like Hellomoto.[close]Breaches - 86SpoilerI’d saw he’s very similar in skill level to Coconut. I believe he won one of those empty duel tournaments as well. I’d rate him the same as Coconut.[close]Fireboy – 86SpoilerBreaches was really good at the leading aspect but never that outstanding at the game except when he was 2v2ing with Zorkoth. Phenomenal teamwork in that scenario.[close]Tico – 86SpoilerDefinitely on par with a player like Rafael in group fighting but as a duelist he is not good.[close]Puppytron - 86SpoilerTico has always been a good player. He’s a strong duelist with good stun chambers. Very similar in skill to a player like Hellomoto.[close]Zorkoth – 86SpoilerPretty good but would be much better if he ever tried.[close]Vortex – 85SpoilerHe was pretty good, cmon guys. At least as good as someone like Puppytron.[close]Sleek - 85SpoilerSolid all-around player.[close]Anthony – 85SpoilerBlocking a lot can only get you so far[close]Silentman – 85SpoilerAnthony is a really good duelist from what I’ve experienced in the short span of time I played with him. He’s also a good groupfighter but blocks way too much.[close]Serpenta – 85SpoilerIf Silentman is on this list then Bot should be too. Silentman was a fantastic groupfighter on public servers, though he never really participated in competitive tournaments. He is a relic of what the community used to be like back in 2012-2013, where even the randoms were really fucking good at the game. His career was short-lived and quiet. (He was good but you can’t rate him that high lol)[close]Steven – 84SpoilerSerpenta was really OP for a really short period of time.[close]Maccle – 83SpoilerReally good feint chambers. I don’t hear much about 63e players. Maybe he’d be better if he played with the other kids.[close]Who- 83SpoilerGets carried all the time.[close]Monty – 83SpoilerBased on everything I saw I’d give him an 83. Maybe he got better.[close]SpoilerThe guy who got me to play this game… I’d bump him up at least a bit. He didn’t play that long but as a duelist he was pretty well known for his Michael J. Fox feints. Back when feinting was much more effective he was a pretty strong duelist. We didn’t groupfight much back then and I can’t remember much about 1v1 frags so that’s all I got.[close][close]
PLAYERS I CAN'T RATE:SpoilerAP0CALYPS3MangSpoilerI don't really remember if AP0C won any tournaments in the old gen days. And after that I have no idea because I never played with him beyond 2013. He was definitely a player that I found challenging to face in duels at times, but I’d say when last I saw him, he was more on par with 2013 Ghost before he made it to the 2nd duel tournament finals against me. For example, if I’m thinking of how he matched up against players in 2013 I’d put him somewhere near AsianP and Colonys when they weren't in their prime yet.[close]AlexanderSpoilerI never played with him. Apparently he had low ping.[close]DarthJezusSpoilerI never played with him.[close]DragonPuffSpoilerNot much I can think of. Similar to Coconut but with a shorter career. Can’t think of a rating.[close]ZzethhSpoilerI don’t know him.[close]Emo CelestiaSpoilerOne of my favorite people in the 12th. I never saw him play after he came to US so I won’t give him a rating but he was absolute garbage before that <3. Pedro is immensely better with his ping than Zzethh was with his.[close]BladeSpoilerI maybe saw him twice ever. Apparently he has ridiculous feints, but I never saw anything that stood out. I can’t give him a rating.[close]MooseSpoilerNever played with him outside of Nord Invasion, so can’t give him a rating.[close]SkinnySpoilerI don't know him.[close]RogelioSpoilerHeard of him, but never played with him.[close]PsychoSpoilerI’ve never actually played with him. Only when Jackie played in his spot in the duel tournament.[close]ChevSpoilerSame opinion about him as DarthJezus.[close]SlickSpoilerI don’t know him.[close]ScopesSpoilerI don’t know him.[close]SaltyySpoilerI feel like I should know him but I don’t. Is this the guy with the deep voice?[close]FalloutSpoilerHe never stood out skill-wise when I played with him and I missed everything after that so I really don’t know.[close]MATTSpoilerI don’t know him.[close]XerothSpoilerMATT’s been putting in a weirdly high amount of hours when no one else is. Accordingly, he's currently one of the best duelists in this dead game. He's working his way up to be a strong groupfighter. He’s got a lot to learn still about groupfigthing but he’s a pretty decent teammate to work with because all he does is upstab so up-downs are pretty straight-forward. He’s got some controversy surrounding him so I’ll hold off on rating him.[close]FancyPantsSpoilerIdk[close]RedrumSpoilerIdk[close]RicoSpoilerIdk[close]ZachAttackSpoilerHe was pretty decent at times a far as I remember.[close]RereSpoilerIdk[close]SpoilerI don’t remember how good he was but I’d guess he was decent.[close][close]
PLAYERS THAT SHOULD BE ADDED:SpoilerKrastinov – 88
KnightofStJohn – 87
Sanders – 87
Maniac – 87 (docked points for not dueling)
NickCole - 86
Cade – 86
Dom13 - 85
Waste - 85
Theodin - 85[close]
give this mans a medal.SpoilerHAVOC's HOT TAKE:ALL TIME MELEE
(reasoning in spoilers)SpoilerJackieChan – 95Tammo – 94SpoilerJackie is the best player to touch this game in NA mostly because his knowledge of dueling vastly surpassed everyone else’s when he came here from EU. Us NA plebs had been dicking around with stuns and feints and were good, but there was no understanding of it. We started to really master the game mechanics shortly after Jackie came and taught most of us. I remember facing him in the 3rd duel tournament and he was hitting me with stun kicks and block chambers, a tactic I hadn’t seen anyone really utilize extensively up until that point. This tournament was retarded and was only ft4, and I ended up losing 3-4. Maybe given more time I would have beaten Jackie in a ft7, but for someone I’d never dueled before he was really fucking good. Unfortunately, I left the game shortly after Jackie came to NA so I never truly got to compare myself to him, but I think it would have been an interesting matchup. Anyways, Jackie has raw talent and high game IQ. He dominated the game longer than anybody else and definitely deserves the top spot.[close]AsianP – 93SpoilerTammo was my best bud in the 2nd QF. We were constantly dueling each other, coming up with new moves, and going back and forth over who was better than the other. Tammo was a fantastic groupfighter, though we threw in that one 2v2 tournament, and one of the best duelists in the game. In our public linebattles with the 2nd QF I remember Tammo throwing down massive clutches against the noobs who had no idea how to block. Those were the days… Tammo dominated the game alongside Jackie and was an all around great dude to be around. He deserves the second spot.[close]RitZ - 91SpoilerAsianP has maintained a high level of consistency throughout his NW career. He’s always been a great groupfighter, a great duelist, and a great leader. In the old gen days he didn’t achieve a whole lot of success, and for that I would dock him a point from a 94 to a 93. Nevertheless, he’s undoubtedly a phenomenal player now. Or at least a year ago when he still played somewhat consistently.[close]Russianfury – 91SpoilerRitZ (a.k.a. Zach a.k.a. Big Z) is definitely on par with AsianP in how long he’s played and how much better he’s gotten since the beginning. I remember I was super surprised at how good Zach had gotten when I came back to the game because he was such a scrub when I left. From what I’ve witnessed, his dueling skills are pretty good and he’s one of the best stun kickers in the game. His game knowledge is some of the best I’ve ever seen (on par with Godfreid, Jackie, AsianP).[close]Godfreid – 91SpoilerRussian is the opposite of Godfreid. He has the highest groupfighting IQ of any player I’ve played with in my career. He has dominated the modern groupfighting scene longer than anyone else that still plays. As a duelist he is somewhere below peak Pinoy near Runepkyz and above Waste. As much as I make fun of him for not being able to, he can chamber and he can stun kick. He’s also got some pretty great feints. He’s also one of the best leaders in 1v1s I’ve ever played with - near Breaches. He and Waste deserve a spot in the top 90s for all-time leading.[close]Havoc -SpoilerGodfreid is hands down the best duelist I’ve faced in the game. He has dominated consistently in dueling longer than anyone else. His knowledge of the game is extremely high and he might have the highest game IQ of anyone I’ve talked to mostly because he actually thinks about it and tests mechanics. The reason I would take points away from Godfreid is because his groupfighting skill lags behind his dueling skill. Godfreid rarely top frags, but to be fair frags are definitely not everything in a groupfight. He is still a good asset to have in groupfight as a support player. His strengths are pulling one side and surviving because he plays so defensively, but against an intelligent team, he will get locked down. What I’ve witnessed directly from watching Godfreid groupfight is that he is on par with players like Sleek or Theodin.[close]Ghost – 91SpoilerThe people can decide what to make of me.[close]Billthebutcher – 91SpoilerGhost was moving up in the game in 2013 and obviously has since become one of the best players in the game through consistent playing. I never saw him at his peak, but I have a good idea based on his trajectory between when I last played with him in 2013 and when I last played with him when he came back for a bit in 2017. Really high game IQ and immense skill at the game after so much time played.[close]Lithios – 90SpoilerBill from the segment of his prime that I’ve witnessed is a phenomenal fragger in groupfights and a really strong duelist. He has extremely good upstab footlances, fantastic quick up-down feints, and really effective block chambers. However, he can’t clutch for his life and his skill diminishes as soon as you put someone who knows how to block footlances in his way or his teammates die. Moreover, Bill’s skill in the game has diminished and from my perspective his dominance was in part due to the lower skill of the community he played against. Nevertheless, Bill deserves a spot in the top 90s due to that level of dominance he showed for a period of time.[close]Pointblank – 89SpoilerLithios was one of the best groupfighters I faced in my time. He was extremely dominant and mastered the art of clutching 1v2s, 1v3s, and 1v4s. His dueling was also pretty strong, but again he never found a whole lot of success in that arena. I am pretty sure he won some tournaments with the 9y or 1stFKI crew but I may be misremembering. His career was also somewhat short-lived. Had he played longer, he would be way up there.[close]Maple - 89SpoilerPointblank is very similar in ability to Lithios. I remember him being a serious contender in duel tourney's but he never found success. He was a great groupfighter but not as good as someone like Lithios.[close]Suns - 88SpoilerI wasn’t around when Maple started playing. When I first came back to the game, Maple was the first guy to I trained with to get back into dueling. I think I missed Maple’s peak and I’ve only really witnessed his decline as I was beating him in ft7s on day one I got back. His groupfighting skills are good at times, and poor at others. He’s a fairly good mid-player when he’s hot, but most other times he’s too much of a duel hero to make an impact. Because I presumably haven’t seen him at his peak, I rate him an 89.[close]Yoshie – 88SpoilerReally good duelist. Great stun kicks and swing stabs. Strong downstab groupfighter. I’d say he has fallen off recently and doesn’t match his previous skill level from about 8 months ago when he was at the top of his game. I’d rate him an 88 if not for his previous performance level.[close]Colonys22 - 88SpoilerI don’t know why Yoshie is so underrated on this list. Yes he is a new gen but he's pretty damn good for one. He’s got a really high groupfighting IQ and is sweaty enough to study EU groupfight videos. He’s had some massive carries I’ve only seen players like Bill, Russian, and AsianP put up. He’s also a pretty decent duelist. Definitely better than Waste and maybe on par with someone like Runepkyz.[close]Kovy - 88SpoilerColonys was one of the youngest players to be good at the game back in the day. He was useful to have on a groupfighting team, but never a carry until more recent times. He won a duel tournament that no one showed up to, but he was never a phenomenal duelist, and he is much better with a sword. His duel skill is similar to a player like Mathias, Runepkyz, or Waste (on Waste’s good days).[close]DjOverjoy – 88SpoilerKovy is a really strong duelist and a great groupfighter. He’s near Runepkyz in groupfighting skill and slightly better in dueling skill than a player like NickCole.[close]Pinoy – 88SpoilerDj is a great groupfighter, on par with players like Kovy and Pinoy. His holds and camera-play are really effective at getting players to miss their blocks. Great teammate to work with and smart groupfighting mind. I’d be tempted to push him to an 89 but his dueling skill is slightly below Kovy and Pinoy’s from their primes.[close]Coconut – 87SpoilerPinoy was one of the best groupfighters in the game at a certain point, but he’s since lost it quite a bit. He was a pretty strong duelist last time I played against him but he rarely duels anymore. Really close to Maple in duel skill and slightly better than Runepkyz.[close]Rafael – 87SpoilerCoconut joined the 12th and was a good player. He was on a lot of 12th groupfighting teams and got a lot of groupfighting titles to his name because of that, however he was never a carry. He never had much dueling success from the tournaments I’ve looked at. Perhaps he improved in ability in 2014- but I never saw it.
"He was a genius at the game. Knew it better than anyone else" - Theodin[close]Hellomoto – 87SpoilerRaf is a really strong player and a great patient duelist. His stuns and swing stabs are really strong. He’s an impactful groupfighter at moments where he’s hot. He is similar to Suns in that his skill level has diminished as he plays less.[close]Achilles - 86SpoilerI’d definitely say Moto is on par with a player like Coconut. Maybe slightly better. He’s got really good stun chambers at least when I throw him an easy stab. He’s a pain in the ass when I face him in groupfights and a really good teammate. Definitely has the ability to be a really dominant player if he was a tryhard.[close]Runepkyz – 86SpoilerHe was a pretty decent groupfighter from what little I saw. He’s probably near Coconut.[close]Mathias – 86SpoilerReally good gfer and decent duelist. Ever so slightly lower in skill than someone like Hellomoto.[close]Breaches - 86SpoilerI’d saw he’s very similar in skill level to Coconut. I believe he won one of those empty duel tournaments as well. I’d rate him the same as Coconut.[close]Fireboy – 86SpoilerBreaches was really good at the leading aspect but never that outstanding at the game except when he was 2v2ing with Zorkoth. Phenomenal teamwork in that scenario.[close]Tico – 86SpoilerDefinitely on par with a player like Rafael in group fighting but as a duelist he is not good.[close]Puppytron - 86SpoilerTico has always been a good player. He’s a strong duelist with good stun chambers. Very similar in skill to a player like Hellomoto.[close]Zorkoth – 86SpoilerPretty good but would be much better if he ever tried.[close]Vortex – 85SpoilerHe was pretty good, cmon guys. At least as good as someone like Puppytron.[close]Sleek - 85SpoilerSolid all-around player.[close]Anthony – 85SpoilerBlocking a lot can only get you so far[close]Silentman – 85SpoilerAnthony is a really good duelist from what I’ve experienced in the short span of time I played with him. He’s also a good groupfighter but blocks way too much.[close]Serpenta – 85SpoilerIf Silentman is on this list then Bot should be too. Silentman was a fantastic groupfighter on public servers, though he never really participated in competitive tournaments. He is a relic of what the community used to be like back in 2012-2013, where even the randoms were really fucking good at the game. His career was short-lived and quiet. (He was good but you can’t rate him that high lol)[close]Steven – 84SpoilerSerpenta was really OP for a really short period of time.[close]Maccle – 83SpoilerReally good feint chambers. I don’t hear much about 63e players. Maybe he’d be better if he played with the other kids.[close]Who- 83SpoilerGets carried all the time.[close]Monty – 83SpoilerBased on everything I saw I’d give him an 83. Maybe he got better.[close]SpoilerThe guy who got me to play this game… I’d bump him up at least a bit. He didn’t play that long but as a duelist he was pretty well known for his Michael J. Fox feints. Back when feinting was much more effective he was a pretty strong duelist. We didn’t groupfight much back then and I can’t remember much about 1v1 frags so that’s all I got.[close][close]
PLAYERS I CAN'T RATE:SpoilerAP0CALYPS3MangSpoilerI don't really remember if AP0C won any tournaments in the old gen days. And after that I have no idea because I never played with him beyond 2013. He was definitely a player that I found challenging to face in duels at times, but I’d say when last I saw him, he was more on par with 2013 Ghost before he made it to the 2nd duel tournament finals against me. For example, if I’m thinking of how he matched up against players in 2013 I’d put him somewhere near AsianP and Colonys when they weren't in their prime yet.[close]AlexanderSpoilerI never played with him. Apparently he had low ping.[close]DarthJezusSpoilerI never played with him.[close]DragonPuffSpoilerNot much I can think of. Similar to Coconut but with a shorter career. Can’t think of a rating.[close]ZzethhSpoilerI don’t know him.[close]Emo CelestiaSpoilerOne of my favorite people in the 12th. I never saw him play after he came to US so I won’t give him a rating but he was absolute garbage before that <3. Pedro is immensely better with his ping than Zzethh was with his.[close]BladeSpoilerI maybe saw him twice ever. Apparently he has ridiculous feints, but I never saw anything that stood out. I can’t give him a rating.[close]MooseSpoilerNever played with him outside of Nord Invasion, so can’t give him a rating.[close]SkinnySpoilerI don't know him.[close]RogelioSpoilerHeard of him, but never played with him.[close]PsychoSpoilerI’ve never actually played with him. Only when Jackie played in his spot in the duel tournament.[close]ChevSpoilerSame opinion about him as DarthJezus.[close]SlickSpoilerI don’t know him.[close]ScopesSpoilerI don’t know him.[close]SaltyySpoilerI feel like I should know him but I don’t. Is this the guy with the deep voice?[close]FalloutSpoilerHe never stood out skill-wise when I played with him and I missed everything after that so I really don’t know.[close]MATTSpoilerI don’t know him.[close]XerothSpoilerMATT’s been putting in a weirdly high amount of hours when no one else is. Accordingly, he's currently one of the best duelists in this dead game. He's working his way up to be a strong groupfighter. He’s got a lot to learn still about groupfigthing but he’s a pretty decent teammate to work with because all he does is upstab so up-downs are pretty straight-forward. He’s got some controversy surrounding him so I’ll hold off on rating him.[close]FancyPantsSpoilerIdk[close]RedrumSpoilerIdk[close]RicoSpoilerIdk[close]ZachAttackSpoilerHe was pretty decent at times a far as I remember.[close]RereSpoilerIdk[close]SpoilerI don’t remember how good he was but I’d guess he was decent.[close][close]
PLAYERS THAT SHOULD BE ADDED:SpoilerKrastinov – 88
KnightofStJohn – 87
Sanders – 87
Maniac – 87 (docked points for not dueling)
NickCole - 86
Cade – 86
Dom13 - 85
Waste - 85
Theodin - 85[close][close]
give this mans a medal.SpoilerHAVOC's HOT TAKE:ALL TIME MELEE
(reasoning in spoilers)SpoilerJackieChan – 95Tammo – 94SpoilerJackie is the best player to touch this game in NA mostly because his knowledge of dueling vastly surpassed everyone else’s when he came here from EU. Us NA plebs had been dicking around with stuns and feints and were good, but there was no understanding of it. We started to really master the game mechanics shortly after Jackie came and taught most of us. I remember facing him in the 3rd duel tournament and he was hitting me with stun kicks and block chambers, a tactic I hadn’t seen anyone really utilize extensively up until that point. This tournament was retarded and was only ft4, and I ended up losing 3-4. Maybe given more time I would have beaten Jackie in a ft7, but for someone I’d never dueled before he was really fucking good. Unfortunately, I left the game shortly after Jackie came to NA so I never truly got to compare myself to him, but I think it would have been an interesting matchup. Anyways, Jackie has raw talent and high game IQ. He dominated the game longer than anybody else and definitely deserves the top spot.[close]AsianP – 93SpoilerTammo was my best bud in the 2nd QF. We were constantly dueling each other, coming up with new moves, and going back and forth over who was better than the other. Tammo was a fantastic groupfighter, though we threw in that one 2v2 tournament, and one of the best duelists in the game. In our public linebattles with the 2nd QF I remember Tammo throwing down massive clutches against the noobs who had no idea how to block. Those were the days… Tammo dominated the game alongside Jackie and was an all around great dude to be around. He deserves the second spot.[close]RitZ - 91SpoilerAsianP has maintained a high level of consistency throughout his NW career. He’s always been a great groupfighter, a great duelist, and a great leader. In the old gen days he didn’t achieve a whole lot of success, and for that I would dock him a point from a 94 to a 93. Nevertheless, he’s undoubtedly a phenomenal player now. Or at least a year ago when he still played somewhat consistently.[close]Russianfury – 91SpoilerRitZ (a.k.a. Zach a.k.a. Big Z) is definitely on par with AsianP in how long he’s played and how much better he’s gotten since the beginning. I remember I was super surprised at how good Zach had gotten when I came back to the game because he was such a scrub when I left. From what I’ve witnessed, his dueling skills are pretty good and he’s one of the best stun kickers in the game. His game knowledge is some of the best I’ve ever seen (on par with Godfreid, Jackie, AsianP).[close]Godfreid – 91SpoilerRussian is the opposite of Godfreid. He has the highest groupfighting IQ of any player I’ve played with in my career. He has dominated the modern groupfighting scene longer than anyone else that still plays. As a duelist he is somewhere below peak Pinoy near Runepkyz and above Waste. As much as I make fun of him for not being able to, he can chamber and he can stun kick. He’s also got some pretty great feints. He’s also one of the best leaders in 1v1s I’ve ever played with - near Breaches. He and Waste deserve a spot in the top 90s for all-time leading.[close]Havoc -SpoilerGodfreid is hands down the best duelist I’ve faced in the game. He has dominated consistently in dueling longer than anyone else. His knowledge of the game is extremely high and he might have the highest game IQ of anyone I’ve talked to mostly because he actually thinks about it and tests mechanics. The reason I would take points away from Godfreid is because his groupfighting skill lags behind his dueling skill. Godfreid rarely top frags, but to be fair frags are definitely not everything in a groupfight. He is still a good asset to have in groupfight as a support player. His strengths are pulling one side and surviving because he plays so defensively, but against an intelligent team, he will get locked down. What I’ve witnessed directly from watching Godfreid groupfight is that he is on par with players like Sleek or Theodin.[close]Ghost – 91SpoilerThe people can decide what to make of me.[close]Billthebutcher – 91SpoilerGhost was moving up in the game in 2013 and obviously has since become one of the best players in the game through consistent playing. I never saw him at his peak, but I have a good idea based on his trajectory between when I last played with him in 2013 and when I last played with him when he came back for a bit in 2017. Really high game IQ and immense skill at the game after so much time played.[close]Lithios – 90SpoilerBill from the segment of his prime that I’ve witnessed is a phenomenal fragger in groupfights and a really strong duelist. He has extremely good upstab footlances, fantastic quick up-down feints, and really effective block chambers. However, he can’t clutch for his life and his skill diminishes as soon as you put someone who knows how to block footlances in his way or his teammates die. Moreover, Bill’s skill in the game has diminished and from my perspective his dominance was in part due to the lower skill of the community he played against. Nevertheless, Bill deserves a spot in the top 90s due to that level of dominance he showed for a period of time.[close]Pointblank – 89SpoilerLithios was one of the best groupfighters I faced in my time. He was extremely dominant and mastered the art of clutching 1v2s, 1v3s, and 1v4s. His dueling was also pretty strong, but again he never found a whole lot of success in that arena. I am pretty sure he won some tournaments with the 9y or 1stFKI crew but I may be misremembering. His career was also somewhat short-lived. Had he played longer, he would be way up there.[close]Maple - 89SpoilerPointblank is very similar in ability to Lithios. I remember him being a serious contender in duel tourney's but he never found success. He was a great groupfighter but not as good as someone like Lithios.[close]Suns - 88SpoilerI wasn’t around when Maple started playing. When I first came back to the game, Maple was the first guy to I trained with to get back into dueling. I think I missed Maple’s peak and I’ve only really witnessed his decline as I was beating him in ft7s on day one I got back. His groupfighting skills are good at times, and poor at others. He’s a fairly good mid-player when he’s hot, but most other times he’s too much of a duel hero to make an impact. Because I presumably haven’t seen him at his peak, I rate him an 89.[close]Yoshie – 88SpoilerReally good duelist. Great stun kicks and swing stabs. Strong downstab groupfighter. I’d say he has fallen off recently and doesn’t match his previous skill level from about 8 months ago when he was at the top of his game. I’d rate him an 88 if not for his previous performance level.[close]Colonys22 - 88SpoilerI don’t know why Yoshie is so underrated on this list. Yes he is a new gen but he's pretty damn good for one. He’s got a really high groupfighting IQ and is sweaty enough to study EU groupfight videos. He’s had some massive carries I’ve only seen players like Bill, Russian, and AsianP put up. He’s also a pretty decent duelist. Definitely better than Waste and maybe on par with someone like Runepkyz.[close]Kovy - 88SpoilerColonys was one of the youngest players to be good at the game back in the day. He was useful to have on a groupfighting team, but never a carry until more recent times. He won a duel tournament that no one showed up to, but he was never a phenomenal duelist, and he is much better with a sword. His duel skill is similar to a player like Mathias, Runepkyz, or Waste (on Waste’s good days).[close]DjOverjoy – 88SpoilerKovy is a really strong duelist and a great groupfighter. He’s near Runepkyz in groupfighting skill and slightly better in dueling skill than a player like NickCole.[close]Pinoy – 88SpoilerDj is a great groupfighter, on par with players like Kovy and Pinoy. His holds and camera-play are really effective at getting players to miss their blocks. Great teammate to work with and smart groupfighting mind. I’d be tempted to push him to an 89 but his dueling skill is slightly below Kovy and Pinoy’s from their primes.[close]Coconut – 87SpoilerPinoy was one of the best groupfighters in the game at a certain point, but he’s since lost it quite a bit. He was a pretty strong duelist last time I played against him but he rarely duels anymore. Really close to Maple in duel skill and slightly better than Runepkyz.[close]Rafael – 87SpoilerCoconut joined the 12th and was a good player. He was on a lot of 12th groupfighting teams and got a lot of groupfighting titles to his name because of that, however he was never a carry. He never had much dueling success from the tournaments I’ve looked at. Perhaps he improved in ability in 2014- but I never saw it.
"He was a genius at the game. Knew it better than anyone else" - Theodin[close]Hellomoto – 87SpoilerRaf is a really strong player and a great patient duelist. His stuns and swing stabs are really strong. He’s an impactful groupfighter at moments where he’s hot. He is similar to Suns in that his skill level has diminished as he plays less.[close]Achilles - 86SpoilerI’d definitely say Moto is on par with a player like Coconut. Maybe slightly better. He’s got really good stun chambers at least when I throw him an easy stab. He’s a pain in the ass when I face him in groupfights and a really good teammate. Definitely has the ability to be a really dominant player if he was a tryhard.[close]Runepkyz – 86SpoilerHe was a pretty decent groupfighter from what little I saw. He’s probably near Coconut.[close]Mathias – 86SpoilerReally good gfer and decent duelist. Ever so slightly lower in skill than someone like Hellomoto.[close]Breaches - 86SpoilerI’d saw he’s very similar in skill level to Coconut. I believe he won one of those empty duel tournaments as well. I’d rate him the same as Coconut.[close]Fireboy – 86SpoilerBreaches was really good at the leading aspect but never that outstanding at the game except when he was 2v2ing with Zorkoth. Phenomenal teamwork in that scenario.[close]Tico – 86SpoilerDefinitely on par with a player like Rafael in group fighting but as a duelist he is not good.[close]Puppytron - 86SpoilerTico has always been a good player. He’s a strong duelist with good stun chambers. Very similar in skill to a player like Hellomoto.[close]Zorkoth – 86SpoilerPretty good but would be much better if he ever tried.[close]Vortex – 85SpoilerHe was pretty good, cmon guys. At least as good as someone like Puppytron.[close]Sleek - 85SpoilerSolid all-around player.[close]Anthony – 85SpoilerBlocking a lot can only get you so far[close]Silentman – 85SpoilerAnthony is a really good duelist from what I’ve experienced in the short span of time I played with him. He’s also a good groupfighter but blocks way too much.[close]Serpenta – 85SpoilerIf Silentman is on this list then Bot should be too. Silentman was a fantastic groupfighter on public servers, though he never really participated in competitive tournaments. He is a relic of what the community used to be like back in 2012-2013, where even the randoms were really fucking good at the game. His career was short-lived and quiet. (He was good but you can’t rate him that high lol)[close]Steven – 84SpoilerSerpenta was really OP for a really short period of time.[close]Maccle – 83SpoilerReally good feint chambers. I don’t hear much about 63e players. Maybe he’d be better if he played with the other kids.[close]Who- 83SpoilerGets carried all the time.[close]Monty – 83SpoilerBased on everything I saw I’d give him an 83. Maybe he got better.[close]SpoilerThe guy who got me to play this game… I’d bump him up at least a bit. He didn’t play that long but as a duelist he was pretty well known for his Michael J. Fox feints. Back when feinting was much more effective he was a pretty strong duelist. We didn’t groupfight much back then and I can’t remember much about 1v1 frags so that’s all I got.[close][close]
PLAYERS I CAN'T RATE:SpoilerAP0CALYPS3MangSpoilerI don't really remember if AP0C won any tournaments in the old gen days. And after that I have no idea because I never played with him beyond 2013. He was definitely a player that I found challenging to face in duels at times, but I’d say when last I saw him, he was more on par with 2013 Ghost before he made it to the 2nd duel tournament finals against me. For example, if I’m thinking of how he matched up against players in 2013 I’d put him somewhere near AsianP and Colonys when they weren't in their prime yet.[close]AlexanderSpoilerI never played with him. Apparently he had low ping.[close]DarthJezusSpoilerI never played with him.[close]DragonPuffSpoilerNot much I can think of. Similar to Coconut but with a shorter career. Can’t think of a rating.[close]ZzethhSpoilerI don’t know him.[close]Emo CelestiaSpoilerOne of my favorite people in the 12th. I never saw him play after he came to US so I won’t give him a rating but he was absolute garbage before that <3. Pedro is immensely better with his ping than Zzethh was with his.[close]BladeSpoilerI maybe saw him twice ever. Apparently he has ridiculous feints, but I never saw anything that stood out. I can’t give him a rating.[close]MooseSpoilerNever played with him outside of Nord Invasion, so can’t give him a rating.[close]SkinnySpoilerI don't know him.[close]RogelioSpoilerHeard of him, but never played with him.[close]PsychoSpoilerI’ve never actually played with him. Only when Jackie played in his spot in the duel tournament.[close]ChevSpoilerSame opinion about him as DarthJezus.[close]SlickSpoilerI don’t know him.[close]ScopesSpoilerI don’t know him.[close]SaltyySpoilerI feel like I should know him but I don’t. Is this the guy with the deep voice?[close]FalloutSpoilerHe never stood out skill-wise when I played with him and I missed everything after that so I really don’t know.[close]MATTSpoilerI don’t know him.[close]XerothSpoilerMATT’s been putting in a weirdly high amount of hours when no one else is. Accordingly, he's currently one of the best duelists in this dead game. He's working his way up to be a strong groupfighter. He’s got a lot to learn still about groupfigthing but he’s a pretty decent teammate to work with because all he does is upstab so up-downs are pretty straight-forward. He’s got some controversy surrounding him so I’ll hold off on rating him.[close]FancyPantsSpoilerIdk[close]RedrumSpoilerIdk[close]RicoSpoilerIdk[close]ZachAttackSpoilerHe was pretty decent at times a far as I remember.[close]RereSpoilerIdk[close]SpoilerI don’t remember how good he was but I’d guess he was decent.[close][close]
PLAYERS THAT SHOULD BE ADDED:SpoilerKrastinov – 88
KnightofStJohn – 87
Sanders – 87
Maniac – 87 (docked points for not dueling)
NickCole - 86
Cade – 86
Dom13 - 85
Waste - 85
Theodin - 85[close][close]
- Doesn't underrate Ghost
- Bumps Apoc down
- Recognizes Russian's achievements
- Doesn't overly value dueling
Spoiler(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi0.kym-cdn.com%2Fphotos%2Fimages%2Ffacebook%2F001%2F323%2F085%2F7fd.jpg&hash=0bcb7dff236792015ee006c154b7e22fe3b565e1)[close]
when was maccles prime i remember when pinoy 7-4'd hm or something on youtube and i 7-2'd many times in 3e during fkmyassThat was in 2013 LOL, I remember that shit. Ody used me as his prizeboy back then lmao. I wasn't even supposed to ft7 him, it was a big misunderstanding.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1qQJTlGD9YSVm5QWS1YVlo4NVk/edit?pli=1when was maccles prime i remember when pinoy 7-4'd hm or something on youtube and i 7-2'd many times in 3e during fkmyassThat was in 2013 LOL, I remember that shit. Ody used me as his prizeboy back then lmao. I wasn't even supposed to ft7 him, it was a big misunderstanding.
when was maccles prime i remember when pinoy 7-4'd hm or something on youtube and i 7-2'd many times in 3e during fkmyassi mean I 7-0d suns MANY times and i was fop in 3e for like 6 months during my prime while u were in the reg so idk what ur talking about funny how if people lie to themselves enough they tend to think its the truth
when was maccles prime i remember when pinoy 7-4'd hm or something on youtube and i 7-2'd many times in 3e during fkmyassi mean I 7-0d suns MANY times and i was fop in 3e for like 6 months during my prime while u were in the reg so idk what ur talking about funny how if people lie to themselves enough they tend to think its the truth
Also, ive never been a duelest ive always been a groupfighter and i dont think random ft7's mean a lot but w/e but i guess you and your like 2 tourny 3rd places in groupfights thinks dueling is worth more because its the only thing you're half decent at :/
Suns goes through keyboards like I go through reforms
Memeshacks
When you see people worse than you on the all-time list :'(remove fancypants for killershark wth
Suns goes through keyboards like I go through reforms*claps*
i wonder what the best leader match ups wereeeeeefake news
i just reinstalled MnB :o
Remember, if we can crowdfund over 3 million (or enough for a large house and food, production costs, etc), we can have a LAN final to determine who are the best NW players and best leaders and also make a kickass reality gaming show.Yeah why haven't you hosted that yet
My house could maybe fit 4 people and the wifi can't even support me by myself.Remember, if we can crowdfund over 3 million (or enough for a large house and food, production costs, etc), we can have a LAN final to determine who are the best NW players and best leaders and also make a kickass reality gaming show.Yeah why haven't you hosted that yet
Will took all his youtube money and left NW :-\ LG got scammed by him!square up
Also, Russian/Waste > any other leading combo.
What he saidWill took all his youtube money and left NW :-\ LG got scammed by him!Thats better
Also, Alexander/Chantakey > any other leading combo.
Will took all his youtube money and left NW :-\ LG got scammed by him!square up
Also, Russian/Waste > any other leading combo.
will needs to stop vlogging while driving
My house could maybe fit 4 people and the wifi can't even support me by myself.Remember, if we can crowdfund over 3 million (or enough for a large house and food, production costs, etc), we can have a LAN final to determine who are the best NW players and best leaders and also make a kickass reality gaming show.Yeah why haven't you hosted that yet
Someone go find some investors or a TV network to host this.
My house could maybe fit 4 people and the wifi can't even support me by myself.Remember, if we can crowdfund over 3 million (or enough for a large house and food, production costs, etc), we can have a LAN final to determine who are the best NW players and best leaders and also make a kickass reality gaming show.Yeah why haven't you hosted that yet
Someone go find some investors or a TV network to host this.
I'll contact my uncle David Rothschild to fund this
What he saidWill took all his youtube money and left NW :-\ LG got scammed by him!Thats better
Also, Alexander/Chantakey > any other leading combo.
Wow NickCole, just wow </3What he saidWill took all his youtube money and left NW :-\ LG got scammed by him!Thats better
Also, Alexander/Chantakey > any other leading combo.
Sorry I was in the 5th before Nr37 so memezWow NickCole, just wow </3What he saidWill took all his youtube money and left NW :-\ LG got scammed by him!Thats better
Also, Alexander/Chantakey > any other leading combo.
Will took all his youtube money and left NW :-\ LG got scammed by him!
Also, Russian/Waste > any other leading combo.
We'll take them all on!I wish they were all still around especially the first pair but they aren’t doggie
cheesey/blade>everyone else
cheesey/freeman>everyone else
Aw fuck you’re right, Freeman was the king
Karth/Zen/Offizer > Anyone and you guys are lying if you think it's anyone else. Heil Karth.Offizer was not a good leader
He might've been lacking compared to Karth and Zen but he was still alright. Plus his cav stuff was fun as fuck.Karth/Zen/Offizer > Anyone and you guys are lying if you think it's anyone else. Heil Karth.Offizer was not a good leader
Hugonaut/Sixgun/Augustus > Y'all fuckers
You're all forgetting about the Waste/Lawbringer/AsianP/Pinkerton combo
I will always take 5arge/JD/Thurne over any of these accolade-ridden 1v1 teams.
There's nothing wrong with sending your regiment to melee, pulling half of it out of the melee, reforming a line, and then shooting back into the melee. That's a 400IQ playHugonaut/Sixgun/Augustus > Y'all fuckers
Hugo taught his Men how to shoot like marksmen
But not much else lol.
iirc 29th were infamous for being basically the equivalent of Movie Grunts when it came to Melee.
There's nothing wrong with sending your regiment to melee, pulling half of it out of the melee, reforming a line, and then shooting back into the melee. That's a 400IQ playHugonaut/Sixgun/Augustus > Y'all fuckers
Hugo taught his Men how to shoot like marksmen
But not much else lol.
iirc 29th were infamous for being basically the equivalent of Movie Grunts when it came to Melee.
I remember 3eVolt doing that to the 1stEPG in the first 1v1 I ever did.There's nothing wrong with sending your regiment to melee, pulling half of it out of the melee, reforming a line, and then shooting back into the melee. That's a 400IQ playHugonaut/Sixgun/Augustus > Y'all fuckers
Hugo taught his Men how to shoot like marksmen
But not much else lol.
iirc 29th were infamous for being basically the equivalent of Movie Grunts when it came to Melee.
Don't get me wrong, Hugo was a great leader for what he was able to do with such a large regiment but look at Karth on the flip side; He also had a large regiment but made it way more competitive then Hugo ever did with the 29th.There's nothing wrong with sending your regiment to melee, pulling half of it out of the melee, reforming a line, and then shooting back into the melee. That's a 400IQ playHugonaut/Sixgun/Augustus > Y'all fuckers
Hugo taught his Men how to shoot like marksmen
But not much else lol.
iirc 29th were infamous for being basically the equivalent of Movie Grunts when it came to Melee.
IV Korps always held the 29th in high regards as one of the best regiments to fight along with during our early days.
Mad respect to Hugo and company always, but he was a public event leader. Different than a competitive 1v1 leader. Both take skills and isn't easy to do.
P I O N E E R I N G T A C T I C SI remember 3eVolt doing that to the 1stEPG in the first 1v1 I ever did.There's nothing wrong with sending your regiment to melee, pulling half of it out of the melee, reforming a line, and then shooting back into the melee. That's a 400IQ playHugonaut/Sixgun/Augustus > Y'all fuckers
Hugo taught his Men how to shoot like marksmen
But not much else lol.
iirc 29th were infamous for being basically the equivalent of Movie Grunts when it came to Melee.
"Shock Troopers"
He might've been lacking compared to Karth and Zen but he was still alright. Plus his cav stuff was fun as fuck.Karth/Zen/Offizer > Anyone and you guys are lying if you think it's anyone else. Heil Karth.Offizer was not a good leader
SpoilerHe might've been lacking compared to Karth and Zen but he was still alright. Plus his cav stuff was fun as fuck.Karth/Zen/Offizer > Anyone and you guys are lying if you think it's anyone else. Heil Karth.Offizer was not a good leader[close]
Cavalry was the only good aspect!
Some say he only comes out once a year to feed on NW salt.SpoilerHe might've been lacking compared to Karth and Zen but he was still alright. Plus his cav stuff was fun as fuck.Karth/Zen/Offizer > Anyone and you guys are lying if you think it's anyone else. Heil Karth.Offizer was not a good leader[close]
Cavalry was the only good aspect!
A rare offizer sighting
Wardop/Deg/Ramelon
P I O N E E R I N G T A C T I C S
ay fuck u maynP I O N E E R I N G T A C T I C S
My highest honor in NW is sitting in the same team speak as that great pioneer of tactics all day, playing random games that weren't NW and randomly going up a few channels to soundboard them. (Or later Windflower and his PShitreG, when they moved into the teamspeak).
Windflower should be 91 at leastWindflower/KOSJ + Windflower/Panda, the greatest backdoor leader of all time
why am i not in leaders listJakester's 41st >
not even the greatest leader or even 2nd greatest in the 7NA TSi will take that 3rd place humbly
why am i not in leaders listJakester's 41st >
why am i not in leaders list
The 45e reigns superior in non mount and blade games, give us a week to practice and we’ll beat you in anything
challenge accepted, see you in smite.
sounds good, our home field match will be in tagpro
alright, see u in a week.
Just wanna say my boy maccle deserves the number one spot.How much did he pay you?
Just wanna say my boy maccle deserves the number one spot.I thought Tammo got lost and devoured by his girl, never to return
the list has forgotten my autistic melee D::DD:::
I have had this idea since 2015 and talked about it in the past with people, thought I finally throw it out here.https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=36009.0
Would people be interested in a NW tournament with a native style? Officers, infantry, cavalry and shooting allowed? A 7v7, 6v6, 5v5 maybe? There are some maps that are already made from FSE that could be used probably.
This would be NA though you mongrolI have had this idea since 2015 and talked about it in the past with people, thought I finally throw it out here.https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=36009.0
Would people be interested in a NW tournament with a native style? Officers, infantry, cavalry and shooting allowed? A 7v7, 6v6, 5v5 maybe? There are some maps that are already made from FSE that could be used probably.
I have had this idea since 2015 and talked about it in the past with people, thought I finally throw it out here.https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=36009.0
Would people be interested in a NW tournament with a native style? Officers, infantry, cavalry and shooting allowed? A 7v7, 6v6, 5v5 maybe? There are some maps that are already made from FSE that could be used probably.
I have had this idea since 2015 and talked about it in the past with people, thought I finally throw it out here.Did one in EU NW. Concept doesn't work that well unless there's an objective, otherwise teams can just camp
Would people be interested in a NW tournament with a native style? Officers, infantry, cavalry and shooting allowed? A 7v7, 6v6, 5v5 maybe? There are some maps that are already made from FSE that could be used probably.
I have had this idea since 2015 and talked about it in the past with people, thought I finally throw it out here.Did one in EU NW. Concept doesn't work that well unless there's an objective, otherwise teams can just camp
Would people be interested in a NW tournament with a native style? Officers, infantry, cavalry and shooting allowed? A 7v7, 6v6, 5v5 maybe? There are some maps that are already made from FSE that could be used probably.
Just wanna say my boy maccle deserves the number one spot.what a smart man
I have had this idea since 2015 and talked about it in the past with people, thought I finally throw it out here.Did one in EU NW. Concept doesn't work that well unless there's an objective, otherwise teams can just camp
Would people be interested in a NW tournament with a native style? Officers, infantry, cavalry and shooting allowed? A 7v7, 6v6, 5v5 maybe? There are some maps that are already made from FSE that could be used probably.
Yeah. The only game mode would be Battle I guess? I still think it could work with the right rules. Plus it be another easy win for the LG.
Consider me salty ;)
Spoiler(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/922555643935921070/8A2CBAABF5B7B1994DB075CF76854605946B204B/)[close]
When you carry Apoc's reg and he still only has you as a 83 all time
Postscript: The Problem with ListsSpoilerWhy lists are always going to be flawed: a breakdown
Another day, another list that people find flaws in. Perhaps the most consistent aspect of melee lists is the varied nature of rankings - and the disagreement that will always come with it. The most likely scenario, then is not that we merely need to find the right rankings, or assuming that there is a “right” rankings. Instead, it’s that melee lists will always be controversial and flawed for at least 5 reasons:
1. The impact of a frag
2. The intangibles - IQ, teamplay, communication
3. External stressors
4. Technical limitations
5. Lack of statistics beyond KD’s
Frag impact: It is often, but not always the case, that first picks in groupfights are important and impactful frags. It is often the case, too, that getting two kills in a 1v5 but losing the clutch is not an example of useful or impactful frags. As well, fragging fluctuates based upon where you are in the groupfight, who you’re with, and the quality of the opposite team. Importantly, none of these are factored into groupfighting rankings! How much of anyone’s kills are impactful? If that question can’t be answered, then the only quantifiable variable that can be taken into account is itself not even as solid of a measure of rating as it often is taken as.
How do you measure someone’s groupfighting IQ against another person? How do you rank teamplay between players? How important is the quality of communication impactful or measureable? None of these factors are (yet!) measurable, and yet supposedly are taken into account when discussing rating. One of groupfighting’s most important tenants, awareness, is not something that you can measure or statistically analyze in any meaningful way, so to assign a number to someone’s groupfighting skill without being able to assign a number to someone's groupfighting awareness is deeply problematic.
Ever had cold fingers or stress affect gameplay? How about being yelled at by a family member? If the effect on performance in more commonplace activities can’t be accurately measured by scientists, how is it even remotely possible to have any sense on how external stressors affect NW gameplay? It seems like a significant variable to control for, but since it can’t even be calculated, it certainly can’t be controlled for.
There has been many documented cases of increased fps or a better computer having a positive on gameplay, but there has also been cases of players overcoming technical limitation. So, how much does this variable factor into melee rankings? I certainly can’t tell you.
Often people gripe about the possibility of assists being calculated in NW. That highlights an important problem - only two statistics are measured by the game: kills and deaths. Somehow list makers extrapolate many different statistics (usefulness, tactics, etc) from a game that only calculates kills and deaths. Perhaps a reason why lists vary between people is that they all use different criteria, and none of them have an agreed upon statistical footing. Until stats like KAST, RWS or something to that affect are able to calculated in NW, getting a picture of a players impact is going to be purely a personal opinion.
In conclusion, lists are bunk, and we really should stop this charade that lists are realistic in any way.[close]
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=34981.new#new
Everyone should just do their own top 10 whatever and post it in one mega thread.
Postscript: The Problem with ListsSpoilerWhy lists are always going to be flawed: a breakdown
Another day, another list that people find flaws in. Perhaps the most consistent aspect of melee lists is the varied nature of rankings - and the disagreement that will always come with it. The most likely scenario, then is not that we merely need to find the right rankings, or assuming that there is a “right” rankings. Instead, it’s that melee lists will always be controversial and flawed for at least 5 reasons:
1. The impact of a frag
2. The intangibles - IQ, teamplay, communication
3. External stressors
4. Technical limitations
5. Lack of statistics beyond KD’s
Frag impact: It is often, but not always the case, that first picks in groupfights are important and impactful frags. It is often the case, too, that getting two kills in a 1v5 but losing the clutch is not an example of useful or impactful frags. As well, fragging fluctuates based upon where you are in the groupfight, who you’re with, and the quality of the opposite team. Importantly, none of these are factored into groupfighting rankings! How much of anyone’s kills are impactful? If that question can’t be answered, then the only quantifiable variable that can be taken into account is itself not even as solid of a measure of rating as it often is taken as.
How do you measure someone’s groupfighting IQ against another person? How do you rank teamplay between players? How important is the quality of communication impactful or measureable? None of these factors are (yet!) measurable, and yet supposedly are taken into account when discussing rating. One of groupfighting’s most important tenants, awareness, is not something that you can measure or statistically analyze in any meaningful way, so to assign a number to someone’s groupfighting skill without being able to assign a number to someone's groupfighting awareness is deeply problematic.
Ever had cold fingers or stress affect gameplay? How about being yelled at by a family member? If the effect on performance in more commonplace activities can’t be accurately measured by scientists, how is it even remotely possible to have any sense on how external stressors affect NW gameplay? It seems like a significant variable to control for, but since it can’t even be calculated, it certainly can’t be controlled for.
There has been many documented cases of increased fps or a better computer having a positive on gameplay, but there has also been cases of players overcoming technical limitation. So, how much does this variable factor into melee rankings? I certainly can’t tell you.
Often people gripe about the possibility of assists being calculated in NW. That highlights an important problem - only two statistics are measured by the game: kills and deaths. Somehow list makers extrapolate many different statistics (usefulness, tactics, etc) from a game that only calculates kills and deaths. Perhaps a reason why lists vary between people is that they all use different criteria, and none of them have an agreed upon statistical footing. Until stats like KAST, RWS or something to that affect are able to calculated in NW, getting a picture of a players impact is going to be purely a personal opinion.
In conclusion, lists are bunk, and we really should stop this charade that lists are realistic in any way.[close]
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=34981.new#new
Actually, there are way more precise ways to measure and rate melee.Spoiler(https://i.imgur.com/Q3sQJTy.png)[close]
Can't say I agree with your conclusion though. Lists are opinion-based. I dunno why you feel this is anything new, and I don't know why you feel like they should be disbanded because of it.
You don't get a prize for being on a list. They aren't tournaments. They aren't even really popularity contests. They are just opinion. That is their purpose.
The only mistake people are making is taking them too seriously.
Consider me salty ;)I say his name and he appears :O
All-Time Regiments1. 12th (L2 S1 NANWL Champs - 33 Victories - 2 Defeats)
2. 71st (S3 L1 Chamption, S2 L1 TNWL Champion - 200 Victories - 22 Defeats - 5 Ties)
3. 3eVolt (S6 L1 Champion, NARGL Champion - 181 Victories - 25 Defeats - 6 Ties)
4. 63e (S2, S4, & S6 L1 NANWL Champion - 3 NANWL League 1 wins speaks for itself)
5. 9y (Never Won a League - Unknown)
6. LG (S7 L1 NANWL Champion, S2 NAPL Champion - 61 Victories - 14 Defeats - 4 Ties)
7. 58e/91st (S5 L1 NANWL Champion, NWPC Champion - 42 Victories - 10 Defeats - 7 Ties)
8. 5th/75th (S2 L2 NANWL Champion, S1 L1 TNWL Champion - 71 - 22 Defeats - 4 Ties)
9. PSG (S6 L2 NANWL Champion - Unknown)
10. 45e (Never Won a League - 95 Victories - 36 Defeats - 6 Ties)[close]ReasonsThis is my list for current top 10 NA and all time. Current is pretty obvious right now and all time for me was based on championships, record, regiment record vs another top 10 regiment, regiment's melee skill ,and how long they were dominant. USMC would be number 10 since they did win two league 2 titles in NWL. However, I give the edge to 45e because their record vs USMC in 1v1s is 5-1 (The one loss was against USMC for L2 title) & was a way better melee regiment then the USMC. Although 63e has 3 NANWL titles, both 71st and 3eVolt has a better record reg vs reg over the 63e.
12th - I don't think I need to say much for everyone to agree this was the best NA regiment of all time.
71st - It was a tight race with 3eVolt & 63e but I gave 71st the edge because of their 1v1 record & GF record vs 63e is simply better.
3eVolt - Well deserve 3rd spot for their long run of dominance over the years.
63e - 3 NANWL League 1 titles is impressive and Karth 1v1 leadership help them win a lot of 1v1s.
9y - Since they didn't last long and never won a league I put them at the 5th spot but I also recongize their amazing melee abilities.
LG - I put LG over the 58e/91st because if we compare primes for both regiment LG simply had a better roster (because of 45e guys) and 58e didn't have much competition to go against during their run compare to the LG vs 3eVolt rivalry.
58e/91st - When they were around at first weren't that great but quicker rose to become the best regiment during its run until losing a close 9-8 lose against 71st in the TNWL S2 L1 playoffs.
5th/75th - Great leadership by the due of Alex/Chan and great teamwork helped this group become one of the best regiments in NA history. Also known for the #underdogs meme & Alex great speech got them the victory when down 5-6 to the 18th.
PSG - This group took a long time to become good but they manage to finally become good and beat USMC for a League 2 title. KOSJ was a great leader that help PSG during its prime tied the 3eVolt after they just finish winning NANWL S6 L1.
45e - Although they never won any leagues, this group was still hard to beat in melee and lead by the duo of Nappy & DJ.[close]
I mean, okay, they’re opinions, but the very nature of a numbered list is that it’s a baseless opinion. It’s a meaningless slap of a number to a players name, so all lists are merely unfounded opinions. It’s bizarre that people with competent logic put any kind of stock or argument into lists when the nature of it is illogical.Postscript: The Problem with ListsSpoilerWhy lists are always going to be flawed: a breakdown
Another day, another list that people find flaws in. Perhaps the most consistent aspect of melee lists is the varied nature of rankings - and the disagreement that will always come with it. The most likely scenario, then is not that we merely need to find the right rankings, or assuming that there is a “right” rankings. Instead, it’s that melee lists will always be controversial and flawed for at least 5 reasons:
1. The impact of a frag
2. The intangibles - IQ, teamplay, communication
3. External stressors
4. Technical limitations
5. Lack of statistics beyond KD’s
Frag impact: It is often, but not always the case, that first picks in groupfights are important and impactful frags. It is often the case, too, that getting two kills in a 1v5 but losing the clutch is not an example of useful or impactful frags. As well, fragging fluctuates based upon where you are in the groupfight, who you’re with, and the quality of the opposite team. Importantly, none of these are factored into groupfighting rankings! How much of anyone’s kills are impactful? If that question can’t be answered, then the only quantifiable variable that can be taken into account is itself not even as solid of a measure of rating as it often is taken as.
How do you measure someone’s groupfighting IQ against another person? How do you rank teamplay between players? How important is the quality of communication impactful or measureable? None of these factors are (yet!) measurable, and yet supposedly are taken into account when discussing rating. One of groupfighting’s most important tenants, awareness, is not something that you can measure or statistically analyze in any meaningful way, so to assign a number to someone’s groupfighting skill without being able to assign a number to someone's groupfighting awareness is deeply problematic.
Ever had cold fingers or stress affect gameplay? How about being yelled at by a family member? If the effect on performance in more commonplace activities can’t be accurately measured by scientists, how is it even remotely possible to have any sense on how external stressors affect NW gameplay? It seems like a significant variable to control for, but since it can’t even be calculated, it certainly can’t be controlled for.
There has been many documented cases of increased fps or a better computer having a positive on gameplay, but there has also been cases of players overcoming technical limitation. So, how much does this variable factor into melee rankings? I certainly can’t tell you.
Often people gripe about the possibility of assists being calculated in NW. That highlights an important problem - only two statistics are measured by the game: kills and deaths. Somehow list makers extrapolate many different statistics (usefulness, tactics, etc) from a game that only calculates kills and deaths. Perhaps a reason why lists vary between people is that they all use different criteria, and none of them have an agreed upon statistical footing. Until stats like KAST, RWS or something to that affect are able to calculated in NW, getting a picture of a players impact is going to be purely a personal opinion.
In conclusion, lists are bunk, and we really should stop this charade that lists are realistic in any way.[close]
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=34981.new#new
Actually, there are way more precise ways to measure and rate melee.Spoiler(https://i.imgur.com/Q3sQJTy.png)[close]
Can't say I agree with your conclusion though. Lists are opinion-based. I dunno why you feel this is anything new, and I don't know why you feel like they should be disbanded because of it.
You don't get a prize for being on a list. They aren't tournaments. They aren't even really popularity contests. They are just opinion. That is their purpose.
The only mistake people are making is taking them too seriously.
HRE are no way above the 15e in terms of groupfighting maybe, But in 1v1s I'd argue that jolly and Uni or even Gelnn and Uni Duo would easily beat the HRE 8-2 or 9-1
Still salty.May the revolution begin
No 29th=fake list
LG's record is 80-6-16 gosh nickcole it's in the teamspeakkkkI don’t have the ts anymore my bad. Moraine 15e needs to prove to me that they are better than HRE. Theo for a top 10 regiment list you can at least use record (a little bit), how regiment played against other top 10 regiments, how many 1v1s they won against the best regiments at the time, leagues won, and etc. Compared to melee lists when everyone wants to just base it on a ft7 or how many kills someone can get in 1 match.
HRE are no way above the 15e in terms of groupfighting maybe, But in 1v1s I'd argue that jolly and Uni or even Gelnn and Uni Duo would easily beat the HRE 8-2 or 9-1
I mean, okay, they’re opinions, but the very nature of a numbered list is that it’s a baseless opinion.
It’s a meaningless slap of a number to a players name
so all lists are merely unfounded opinions.
It’s bizarre that people with competent logic put any kind of stock or argument into lists when the nature of it is illogical.
The only mistake people are making is making mistaken lists in the first place
So what's your criteria and how is measured? and how do you control for other variables?
Your criteria is so deeply flawed, so building a list off of that is really meaningless and inconsequential. Nor is it a good representation of melee, neither.So what's your criteria and how is measured? and how do you control for other variables?
Whats my criteria? My criteria is how good I think a player is. How is it measured? By how good I think a player is on a scale of 1-100.
How do I control for other variables? By playing for a really long time.
I didn't think it was that complicated of a concept.
Your criteria is so deeply flawed, so building a list off of that is really meaningless and inconsequential. Nor is it a good representation of melee, neither.So what's your criteria and how is measured? and how do you control for other variables?
Whats my criteria? My criteria is how good I think a player is. How is it measured? By how good I think a player is on a scale of 1-100.
How do I control for other variables? By playing for a really long time.
I didn't think it was that complicated of a concept.
See, melee is complicated, so your criteria should have some complexity in it, but as you said yourself, you don't think its a complicated concept
more BANTER
less BANTERmore BANTER
your birds are gay
less BANTERmore BANTER
your birds are gay
more BANTER
your birds are gay
LG Tournament Wins: (These were the ones that had a full LG line up. There are more placing for teams with members of LG, but didn't count them)literally all of these are irrelevant imo since they wernt considered regimental tournaments.
Gold - 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, 5v5x2, 7v7
Silver - 4v4x2
Bronze - 3v3
i also dont understand why grimsight originally counted duel tournaments. that is literally just individual skillI made the lists when regiment loyalty was more of a thing, so when one of your members won a tournament you wanted to rep it
all this "IQ" talk real puts into perspective how the NW community real overrates their own ability LOL
like bruh you're blocking and attacking w 2 directions, a fking monkey could learn how to do that in a couple days (look at MATT for instance). it doesn't take "iq" it takes time and practice
its not that hard to figure out what somebody is going to do next in a duel, the hard part is having the mechanics to counter them
oh and gfing is just a bunch of retards feinting until one of them gets caught out
all this "IQ" talk real puts into perspective how the NW community real overrates their own ability LOL
like bruh you're blocking and attacking w 2 directions, a fking monkey could learn how to do that in a couple days (look at MATT for instance). it doesn't take "iq" it takes time and practice
its not that hard to figure out what somebody is going to do next in a duel, the hard part is having the mechanics to counter them
oh and gfing is just a bunch of retards feinting until one of them gets caught out
all this "IQ" talk real puts into perspective how the NW community real overrates their own ability LOL
like bruh you're blocking and attacking w 2 directions, a fking monkey could learn how to do that in a couple days (look at MATT for instance). it doesn't take "iq" it takes time and practice
its not that hard to figure out what somebody is going to do next in a duel, the hard part is having the mechanics to counter them
oh and gfing is just a bunch of retards feinting until one of them gets caught out
Quotei also dont understand why grimsight originally counted duel tournaments. that is literally just individual skillI made the lists when regiment loyalty was more of a thing, so when one of your members won a tournament you wanted to rep it
Russian should be on the all time leader list, but I have no memory of his leading so I can't comment on his placement
By the way the regiment hall of fame was never supposed to be a one and done thing. I intended for that to see more regiments inducted over time. would be cool to see a new regiment in there.
Pinoy and maccle lul. watch these masterful duelists footlance and not block
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1qQJTlGD9YSVm5QWS1YVlo4NVk/edit?pli=1
not really... maybe for noobs who just learned how to chamberPinoy and maccle lul. watch these masterful duelists footlance and not block
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1qQJTlGD9YSVm5QWS1YVlo4NVk/edit?pli=1
THAT was melee back then, holy fuck lmaooooooooo
LG is a combination of the 71st, 45e, native players & Nr37 pretty much.Quotei also dont understand why grimsight originally counted duel tournaments. that is literally just individual skillI made the lists when regiment loyalty was more of a thing, so when one of your members won a tournament you wanted to rep it
Russian should be on the all time leader list, but I have no memory of his leading so I can't comment on his placement
By the way the regiment hall of fame was never supposed to be a one and done thing. I intended for that to see more regiments inducted over time. would be cool to see a new regiment in there.
I dunno. I think adding a regiment into the list is the same as saying "This regiment can compete with every other regiment on the list". I'll actually consider adding the LG, but I really need to pose an honest question: Could the LG do that? Could they take rounds off the 9y? The 71st? Or maybe even the 12th? If I see enough people saying they can, fuck it, sure. But for now, I have my doubts. I think those regiments were in a tier of their own. But if the community really thinks otherwise....
As for leaders, I dunno. I will have to think about that some more.
What is actually going on:
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm5.staticflickr.com%2F4024%2F4398996944_2429cc74cd.jpg&hash=6a129ec2aef998e4ec42d1109fec0d37e507093a)
Quotei also dont understand why grimsight originally counted duel tournaments. that is literally just individual skillI made the lists when regiment loyalty was more of a thing, so when one of your members won a tournament you wanted to rep it
Russian should be on the all time leader list, but I have no memory of his leading so I can't comment on his placement
By the way the regiment hall of fame was never supposed to be a one and done thing. I intended for that to see more regiments inducted over time. would be cool to see a new regiment in there.
I dunno. I think adding a regiment into the list is the same as saying "This regiment can compete with every other regiment on the list". I'll actually consider adding the LG, but I really need to pose an honest question: Could the LG do that? Could they take rounds off the 9y? The 71st? Or maybe even the 12th? If I see enough people saying they can, fuck it, sure. But for now, I have my doubts. I think those regiments were in a tier of their own. But if the community really thinks otherwise....
As for leaders, I dunno. I will have to think about that some more.
But where is GTAMAN on the list?
That's the real question we should be asking here.
IN FACT the 58e was renamed from Nr37 aswell so put there stuff down for me alsoYou practically fathered the entire meta.
Im telling you man look at all the top regiments this game has seen and there's one thing the same in them allIN FACT the 58e was renamed from Nr37 aswell so put there stuff down for me alsoYou practically fathered the entire meta.
you wernt around for the LG. They literally trashed everyone including the 3eQuotei also dont understand why grimsight originally counted duel tournaments. that is literally just individual skillI made the lists when regiment loyalty was more of a thing, so when one of your members won a tournament you wanted to rep it
Russian should be on the all time leader list, but I have no memory of his leading so I can't comment on his placement
By the way the regiment hall of fame was never supposed to be a one and done thing. I intended for that to see more regiments inducted over time. would be cool to see a new regiment in there.
I dunno. I think adding a regiment into the list is the same as saying "This regiment can compete with every other regiment on the list". I'll actually consider adding the LG, but I really need to pose an honest question: Could the LG do that? Could they take rounds off the 9y? The 71st? Or maybe even the 12th? If I see enough people saying they can, fuck it, sure. But for now, I have my doubts. I think those regiments were in a tier of their own. But if the community really thinks otherwise....
As for leaders, I dunno. I will have to think about that some more.
you wernt around for the LG. They literally trashed everyone including the 3eQuotei also dont understand why grimsight originally counted duel tournaments. that is literally just individual skillI made the lists when regiment loyalty was more of a thing, so when one of your members won a tournament you wanted to rep it
Russian should be on the all time leader list, but I have no memory of his leading so I can't comment on his placement
By the way the regiment hall of fame was never supposed to be a one and done thing. I intended for that to see more regiments inducted over time. would be cool to see a new regiment in there.
I dunno. I think adding a regiment into the list is the same as saying "This regiment can compete with every other regiment on the list". I'll actually consider adding the LG, but I really need to pose an honest question: Could the LG do that? Could they take rounds off the 9y? The 71st? Or maybe even the 12th? If I see enough people saying they can, fuck it, sure. But for now, I have my doubts. I think those regiments were in a tier of their own. But if the community really thinks otherwise....
As for leaders, I dunno. I will have to think about that some more.
all this "IQ" talk real puts into perspective how the NW community real overrates their own ability LOLI mean if you want to see talent but no IQ for the game just look at what J.R. Smith did lmao.
like bruh you're blocking and attacking w 2 directions, a fking monkey could learn how to do that in a couple days (look at MATT for instance). it doesn't take "iq" it takes time and practice
its not that hard to figure out what somebody is going to do next in a duel, the hard part is having the mechanics to counter them
oh and gfing is just a bunch of retards feinting until one of them gets caught out
Wouldn't say they trashed us. More like ya'll managed to break even with us.you wernt around for the LG. They literally trashed everyone including the 3eQuotei also dont understand why grimsight originally counted duel tournaments. that is literally just individual skillI made the lists when regiment loyalty was more of a thing, so when one of your members won a tournament you wanted to rep it
Russian should be on the all time leader list, but I have no memory of his leading so I can't comment on his placement
By the way the regiment hall of fame was never supposed to be a one and done thing. I intended for that to see more regiments inducted over time. would be cool to see a new regiment in there.
I dunno. I think adding a regiment into the list is the same as saying "This regiment can compete with every other regiment on the list". I'll actually consider adding the LG, but I really need to pose an honest question: Could the LG do that? Could they take rounds off the 9y? The 71st? Or maybe even the 12th? If I see enough people saying they can, fuck it, sure. But for now, I have my doubts. I think those regiments were in a tier of their own. But if the community really thinks otherwise....
As for leaders, I dunno. I will have to think about that some more.
should be noted i didnt play during that time eitherWouldn't say they trashed us. More like ya'll managed to break even with us.you wernt around for the LG. They literally trashed everyone including the 3eQuotei also dont understand why grimsight originally counted duel tournaments. that is literally just individual skillI made the lists when regiment loyalty was more of a thing, so when one of your members won a tournament you wanted to rep it
Russian should be on the all time leader list, but I have no memory of his leading so I can't comment on his placement
By the way the regiment hall of fame was never supposed to be a one and done thing. I intended for that to see more regiments inducted over time. would be cool to see a new regiment in there.
I dunno. I think adding a regiment into the list is the same as saying "This regiment can compete with every other regiment on the list". I'll actually consider adding the LG, but I really need to pose an honest question: Could the LG do that? Could they take rounds off the 9y? The 71st? Or maybe even the 12th? If I see enough people saying they can, fuck it, sure. But for now, I have my doubts. I think those regiments were in a tier of their own. But if the community really thinks otherwise....
As for leaders, I dunno. I will have to think about that some more.
smhshould be noted i didnt play during that time eitherWouldn't say they trashed us. More like ya'll managed to break even with us.you wernt around for the LG. They literally trashed everyone including the 3eQuotei also dont understand why grimsight originally counted duel tournaments. that is literally just individual skillI made the lists when regiment loyalty was more of a thing, so when one of your members won a tournament you wanted to rep it
Russian should be on the all time leader list, but I have no memory of his leading so I can't comment on his placement
By the way the regiment hall of fame was never supposed to be a one and done thing. I intended for that to see more regiments inducted over time. would be cool to see a new regiment in there.
I dunno. I think adding a regiment into the list is the same as saying "This regiment can compete with every other regiment on the list". I'll actually consider adding the LG, but I really need to pose an honest question: Could the LG do that? Could they take rounds off the 9y? The 71st? Or maybe even the 12th? If I see enough people saying they can, fuck it, sure. But for now, I have my doubts. I think those regiments were in a tier of their own. But if the community really thinks otherwise....
As for leaders, I dunno. I will have to think about that some more.
napl was ugly, seeing the most stacked reg in nw history get demolishedyou shoulda seen 58e the second time around xd
You act like I'm some sort of 95 rated duelist. Everyone knows I'm more of a gfer but whatever you say homie.
napl was ugly, seeing the most stacked reg in nw history get demolishedfor real man.
once 45e joined LG 3e would get smacked no lie i was thereI did my job, in and out the battlefield ;)
I can confirm Pinoy was the MVP of the LGonce 45e joined LG 3e would get smacked no lie i was thereI did my job, in and out the battlefield ;)
Wheres my 90 rated hoe 8) :-*I can confirm Pinoy was the MVP of the LGonce 45e joined LG 3e would get smacked no lie i was thereI did my job, in and out the battlefield ;)
12th was good but 2nd qf should be top NA all time, 71-2 beats 33-2
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1061/1924/products/Thinking_Face_Emoji_large.png?v=1480481060)
I dunno. I think adding a regiment into the list is the same as saying "This regiment can compete with every other regiment on the list". I'll actually consider adding the LG, but I really need to pose an honest question: Could the LG do that? Could they take rounds off the 9y? The 71st? Or maybe even the 12th? If I see enough people saying they can, fuck it, sure. But for now, I have my doubts. I think those regiments were in a tier of their own. But if the community really thinks otherwise....
As for leaders, I dunno. I will have to think about that some more.
12th was good but 2nd qf should be top NA all time, 71-2 beats 33-2
gtaman at least an 82 on all timeagreed. these list creators are biased af and wont recognize his skill
I dunno. I think adding a regiment into the list is the same as saying "This regiment can compete with every other regiment on the list". I'll actually consider adding the LG, but I really need to pose an honest question: Could the LG do that? Could they take rounds off the 9y? The 71st? Or maybe even the 12th? If I see enough people saying they can, fuck it, sure. But for now, I have my doubts. I think those regiments were in a tier of their own. But if the community really thinks otherwise....
As for leaders, I dunno. I will have to think about that some more.
Also forgot to mention that the LG was just a bandwagon of toxic trolls whereas 12th etc. weren't.
Also forgot to mention that the LG was just a bandwagon of toxic trolls whereas 12th etc. weren't.
Also forgot to mention that the LG was just a bandwagon of toxic trolls whereas 12th etc. weren't.We were the nicest human beings, what you talkin about?
Also forgot to mention that the LG was just a bandwagon of toxic trolls whereas 12th etc. weren't.:-X
There is tw0 different eras of the LG (could go 3 if you wanted, before Russian joined). NANWL S7/RGL and NAPL S2, when the 45e guys merged in. I don't recall the LG being massive trolls during the first era when I was in the regiment, but I stopped played after the RGL league.before russian joined? i still have the roster sent to me from waste for season 1 of NAPL when they first formed. russian was on it
Airraider and Dante_Fuast all time melee list.
Reform 22e and I can guarantee Prae would smash the comp scene into the dirt with his ELITE STRATS.5-0 vs Ody #PraeBetterThanOdy
Also forgot to mention that the LG was just a bandwagon of toxic trolls whereas 12th etc. weren't.Sounds like you never fully experienced the 45e or 5th if you’re calling the LG really trolly. Plus the 12th were trolly, it was just more contained and not as open as a lot of other groups.
Rip wherner and killersharkThat groupfight was probably the biggest reason I started going on groupfighting servers 24/7 lol. Then a few months later when I was actually pretty decent is when I joined the 12th. Coconut changed my NW career :o
yeah I think I left the fki like 2 days after that groupfight. All the 9y left the FKI... no more good meleers left for me to improve with. If your leagues above everyone around you, you can't improve. I joined the 12th to be with the best so that I could learn from the best. also no one from 9y invited me so i was a bit saltyy :PRip wherner and killersharkThat groupfight was probably the biggest reason I started going on groupfighting servers 24/7 lol. Then a few months later when I was actually pretty decent is when I joined the 12th. Coconut changed my NW career :o
Airraider and Dante_Fuast all time melee list.
Airraider and Dante_Fuast all time melee list.
Airraider and Dante_Fuast all time melee list.
For doing what?
I carried Nr37 for Wastee smh.SpoilerI got 60 kills in the USMC vs 6te gf! :DDD !!!
here's my resume for waste for all time meleeSpoilerRegimental Groupfighting Leauge Second Place - Leib Grenadiers
NANWL Season 7 League 1 Champion - Leib Grenadiers
NAPL Season 1 Second Place - Leib Grenadiers
NANWL Season 3 League 2 Champion - Nr.37
TNWL Season 2 League 1 Champion - 71st
NAPL Season 3 Chamapion - Leib Grenadiers
Gluks First Duel Tournament - 1st Place
Maccles Second 2v2 Tournament - 1st Place
Liquids 4v4 Tournament - 1st Place
Dan's Ultimate Gfing Tournament Part IV - 1st Place
NA All-Star Competition - 1st Place
Orcaryo's 7v7 Tournament - 1st Place
NickColes 4v4 Tournament - 2nd Place
Lawbringers 3v3 Tournament - 1st Place
NA Gold 5v5 Groupfighting League Season 2 - 1st Place
TNWL All Star Groupfight Participant
Also gotten 2nd/3rd in a couple of those weekly duel tournaments but those don't matter much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq7B44odQ00[close][close]
That there is the ONLY reason why the LG is being held back from making the all time regiment list as I've been reading through the previous pages.
That part is mostly for others that may influence your decision. As well it not having universal support from everyone.That there is the ONLY reason why the LG is being held back from making the all time regiment list as I've been reading through the previous pages.
I don't remember saying anything about the drama.
Dan the Chef, greatest hacker ever
Airraider and Dante_Fuast all time melee list.
For doing what?
Well then, seeing as I haven't really seen any nay-sayers, with the worst I have seen being people on the fence about it, go ahead and draft me up their entry and I will put it in.
So if anyone has a problem with that, speak now or forever hold your peace.
I may also adjust all time players a little bit. I think I did Ghost an injustice in hindsight, as well as I might go through Havocs list and see what I like.
yea when orcaryo called vortex’s house with Russian and waste both laughing in the teamspeak.LOL
darn 45e
yea when orcaryo called vortex’s house with Russian and waste both laughing in the teamspeak.Still was wrong, but it was funny in the moment.
darn 45e
yea when orcaryo called vortex’s house with Russian and waste both laughing in the teamspeak.not to mention waste said vortex deserved the doxxing :thinking:
darn 45e
Well then, seeing as I haven't really seen any nay-sayers, with the worst I have seen being people on the fence about it, go ahead and draft me up their entry and I will put it in.
So if anyone has a problem with that, speak now or forever hold your peace.
I may also adjust all time players a little bit. I think I did Ghost an injustice in hindsight, as well as I might go through Havocs list and see what I like.
I do object, I'm just trying to politely word it in my post that I've been in the process of making lol.
That is cool to see that me and nappy's all-time leaders list is still being used! :Dso thats why hes ranked so high :o
lol victimfury acting like he didn't need us to win, greatest army in nw history baby.At least I admit when i'm wrong compared to you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIsaw2XIjRI&t=42s
Also russian sorry bud you did not invent running at people in a flank or revolutionize leading+1
Also russian sorry bud you did not invent running at people in a flank or revolutionize leadingI never meant that, but I never seen a lot of regiments use those tactics until I did. And I never saw leaders reversed the line while flanking back to their rear officer.
well I was never in the wrong, I told Asian to change his steam as soon as it happened.lol victimfury acting like he didn't need us to win, greatest army in nw history baby.At least I admit when i'm wrong compared to you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIsaw2XIjRI&t=42s
Skewing my words, what I have told people is that what happened to Vortex was largely because of his actions.I mean, I have the logs right here. "Vortex is a massive piece of shit who deserved every part of it." There, not skewing your words now. Happy?
Anyways if anyone wants to speak to me about my life view's, philosophies, how all this drama started from my perspective and what I did to stop it please do PM me and we can have a calm nice chat.
7 Months later the NW drama club is still rolling baby
I like how you're saying I used the 45e as the scapegoat but they were LITERALLY THE REASON for all of that drama.well I was never in the wrong, I told Asian to change his steam as soon as it happened.lol victimfury acting like he didn't need us to win, greatest army in nw history baby.At least I admit when i'm wrong compared to you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIsaw2XIjRI&t=42s
Yea but that novel you wrote on the previous page shows you’re still not admiting your wrongs. You still scapegoat the 45e when everyone knows you were an enabler.
Since there is a lot of debate about the LG being a top contender for the all time regiments list I may as well put my input. As well Waste and I's leading.
I felt as though I did revolutionized some aspects of leading within linebattles. Before I joined the Neo-Nr37 (the baby cradle of the LG), I was experimenting and was very new to leading from the front. I've had plenty of experience from doing it from the back from previous regiments such as Ody's regiments and most notably the 71st. One of the aspects of linebattles that I felt that I help make the meta of 1v1 leading is the flank straight into the enemy and reform on the back of the officer. I never remember any leaders really using that as their mainstream tactic, not even the 3eVolt. It was a mixture of Cheesy's aggressive leading with Ody's "left flank" and "right flank" stuff that Cheesey never used. This greatly helped out maneuvered enemy lines for the most part and did especially well against the stronger regiments during the time of the LG. I began to see over the months the exact same tactics that I described many regiments that I faced before began to use them. They will of course say "No I didn't learn them from you" but in all honesty I don't remember doing those type of line movements before.
As well for another thing I was relatively successful for not being one of the hill camping leaders. I only hill camped if the enemy did or I was just outmatched in melee (which was rare). While some of the leaders in the elite tier and high tier had to use tactics of shooting across the map and wheeling on a hill and claiming it "requires leading skills," which is absolutely false. When I face people who could truly lead in close combat I respect those leaders such as Cheesey and scorn those who did like Karth. I've lost many rounds while doing this but gained the respect of my members not wasting their time and trying to make 1v1's as fun as possible as they should be. Not a game of who has no life and doesn't have to wake up tomorrow.
Now here is the reason why the LG should be on the all time regimental list. It was the regiment to beat during 2017. I felt as though we were the main drive of the competitive community and I do remember the 3eVolt saying to me before that the only reason why they stayed was because we put up such a fight. With impressive groupfighting and individual skill we won NANWL S7 and really only lost NAPL S1 because we got cheated out of it when the 6te disbanded. We came in 2nd place in NARGL (which it was either us or the 3e), but put up a fight until the end. Through literally sweat and tears Waste and I held the regiment together through the summer as we came back and forth from winning and losing in either Linebattles or groupfights against the 3eVolt. By the end, I proved we were a regiment to be remembered. Whether or not if you liked it or not, the LG was one of the best regiments in NW, even before the merger between us and the 45e.
Since I did mention that I think a lot of 3eVolt members have been waiting for me to address the "super drama" that we had between our regiments. I'll tell the "whole story" from our side and if people want to argue back with me about this on FSE you're wasting your time. Sometime in early July in the middle of the night Waste and I have gotten a message from the 85e (45e name at the time due to Nappy leaving the regiment) asking whether or not we wanted them to merge into us. If anything guys, Waste was probably the best at saying we shouldn't have never done it being the only Nay vote out of the three of us (Myself, Yoshie, and Waste). I think I said this on my podcast but I'll say it again since people are misusing my words, at the time the 3eVolt just had better players and were gaining more from how I saw it not from their side. So if I turned down those 85e guys my biggest fear was some of them joining the 3e for not letting them in. Which the 3eVolt probably would've loved to gain the adavantage even taking in 3-5 of those players. So that's my reasoning for letting them in and I'll explain the drama part. Apparently some night later within that week Chantakey, that little shit, came on and started to escalate shit against the 3e after we beat them in that big 35v35 gf. He began looking up people's facebook profiles and began to shitpost. It didn't help that the 45e guys (Pinoy being the biggest) and others loved doing this kind of stuff, began to also jump in. If I did kick out those guys, they probably would've only made things worse probably harassing even more of you guys, having them in my regiment at least gave me some le way with them. I do feel awfully sorry for the pain that Asianp and Vortex got within that time because before all that shit the 3eVolt and the LG had a friendly rivalry and we played a lot of games together before July of 2018. But what I did kept my regiment together and if I did anything drastic as to kick all of those guys it would've made it only worse for everyone.
That there is the ONLY reason why the LG is being held back from making the all time regiment list as I've been reading through the previous pages.
Nothing I do now will ever change what happened in the past, if anything, I would have never let in the 45e guys if I knew what they were going to do. I won't be surprised if I get messaged saying "YOU'RE A TRAITOR TO THE CAUSE" or whatever the fuck you guys did in the past. Everyone that did participate in that should just feel ashamed. Making jokes in teamspeak were enough but doing it just to harass others is just fucking wrong.
Now that I've gotten that part out of the way I'll give my final assessment on the LG. I was proud of nearly every member that joined and gained and respected many as some of our friendships online still continue to today. Our skill was only matched by the regiments that are currently on the all time regimental list and in all reality if we could clone the exact person and put them in both regiments we could take the 71st and below. The Old 3eVolt and the 12th were just too good from how I remember it but I feel confident about beating everyone else. Take this post with a grain of salt and if you do respond about the drama part of the LG I will just ignore you as that is now in the past and we should all move on.
P.S. If you were to include the LG, by all means also include the 58e. Even though I still hate them to today they were still a great regiment to face while I was in the 71st.
Also I hate Civ 6 as a game but it does have the best title music of all the civ games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQYN2P3E06s
yea when orcaryo called vortex’s house with Russian and waste both laughing in the teamspeak.Still was wrong, but it was funny in the moment.
darn 45e
Skewing my words, what I have told people is that what happened to Vortex was largely because of his actions.
Anyways if anyone wants to speak to me about my life view's, philosophies, how all this drama started from my perspective and what I did to stop it please do PM me and we can have a calm nice chat.
7 Months later the NW drama club is still rolling baby
As “one of the 45e” that joined the LG, I do believe it was mostly certain members from the former 45e that caused the issue. However, there was no one from either side that did much to try to stop it. I of course did not partake in anything, but did not be the voice of reason either. Pretty much everyone that knew about it had some of the blame
You're leaving out the part where I then explained what I meant by that.Skewing my words, what I have told people is that what happened to Vortex was largely because of his actions.I mean, I have the logs right here. "Vortex is a massive piece of shit who deserved every part of it." There, not skewing your words now. Happy?
Anyways if anyone wants to speak to me about my life view's, philosophies, how all this drama started from my perspective and what I did to stop it please do PM me and we can have a calm nice chat.
7 Months later the NW drama club is still rolling baby
please do PM me
-snip-I talked to AsianP personally about that message. Don't talk about things you don't understand.
russian you would sit in the channel on the daily and those memes were commonplace and you didnt do shit i was there the whole time LOOOOOL
where waste @?
-snip-
would anyone like to play some minecraft
Hi Asian,
I understand that you might completely disregard everything tI say here but I need to say it. I really am sorry for everything that has happened in regards to you, vortex, the 3eVolt and LG. What started as small jokes with the 45e guys just running around saying dead dad to random people turned into something totally out of control when they found out about you. It's completely messed up and most of them have come to understand that but some still can't wrap their heads around it. When this first happened I'll be honest with you we didn't know how to handle it. We didn't think it was such a big deal and didn't realize if would escalate so much. It should have ended immediately but it took us time to figure out what needed to be done. We did stop it for the most part, we got the message through to our members that it's unacceptable and they have respected that rather than a few occasions where someone did it anonymously like with Vetro. We worked together on that and found out it was him, I hoped that would show that we truly were making an effort to stop it. Next came the things with vortex which is where I do take back one thing I said where he deserved it. He did not deserve it but I understand why it happened. It's still unacceptable for my regiment and me to allow it to happen though and I'm very sorry. I don't expect us to ever do events or play games like we used to again but I hate to know people think poorly of me. And yes I know I said I don't care what people think about me and that's partially true, I don't care what people think about me unless they are someone I respect. You, Godfreid, Krastinov, Risk and the rest of the 3eVolt other than two individuals I do very much respect and I don't want you thinking poorly of me. I have interesting views on situations and i say things for a reason, though sometimes I don't think of the consquences. We all make mistakes and I made some big ones lately but I am not a scumbag, a narcissist, or a terrible person. I don't know some of the pain you know but I would never go to the level of personal attacks and I will not allow such things. I hope I am able to earn back even a small amount of your respect with this. There were some other things I will probably think to say and maybe we can have a real conversation about them one day. This drama isn't helping anyone and I'm disgusted that I allowed myself to become stuck in it. Finally if you do respond to this or you don't I want you to know that I might share this with some people so that they can see what I think aswell.
Thanks and I'm sincerely sorry,
Wastee
Since there is a lot of debate about the 45e being a top contender for the alltime regiments list I may as well put my input. As well Nappy and I’s leading.
I felt as though I did revolutionized some aspects of leading within linebattles. Before I joined the LG, I was experimenting and was very experienced to leading from the front. I've had plenty of experience from doing it from the back from previous regiments such as Alexander's regiments and most notably the 5th/75th. One of the aspects of linebattles that I felt that I help make the meta of 1v1 leading is the flank straight into the enemy and reform on the back of the officer. I never remember any leaders really using that as their mainstream tactic, not even the 3eVolt or LG. It was a mixture of Alexander's aggressive leading with Chantakey's autism that Alexander never used. This greatly helped out-maneuver enemy lines for the most part and did especially well against the stronger regiments during the time of the 45e. I began to see over the months the exact same tactics that I described many regiments that I faced before began to use them. They will of course say "No I didn't learn them from you" but in all honesty I don't remember doing those type of line movements before.
As well for another thing I was relatively successful for not being one of the hill camping leaders. I only hill camped if the enemy did or I was just outmatched in melee (which was rare). While some of the leaders in the elite tier and high tier had to use tactics of shooting across the map and wheeling on a hill and claiming it "requires leading skills," which is absolutely false. When I face people who could truly lead in close combat I respect those leaders such as Alexander and scorn those who did like Karth. I've lost many rounds while doing this but gained the respect of my members not wasting their time and trying to make 1v1's as fun as possible as they should be. Not a game of who has no life and doesn't have to wake up tomorrow.
Now here is the reason why the 45e should be on the all time regimental list. It was the regiment to beat during its peak. I felt as though we were the main drive of the competitive community and I do remember the 3eVolt saying to me before that the only reason why they stayed was because we put up such a fight. With impressive groupfighting and individual skill we won many leagues and really only lost 1v1s because we got cheated out of it by hill-camping. We came in 2nd place in NANWL S7 (which it was either us or the 3e), but put up a fight until the end. Through literally sweat and tears Nappy and I held the regiment together through the summer as we came back from destroying in either Linebattles or groupfights against the 3eVolt. By the end, I proved we were a regiment to be remembered. Whether or not if you liked it or not, the 45e was one of the best regiments in NW, even before the merger between us and the LG.
Since I did mention that I think a lot of 3eVolt members have been waiting for me to address the "super drama" that we had between our regiments. I'll tell the "whole story" from our side and if people want to argue back with me about this on FSE you're wasting your time. Sometime in early July in the middle of the night Raf and I have gotten a message from the LG asking whether or not we wanted them to merge into us. I think I said this on my podcast with Hawkince, but I'll say it again since people are misusing my words, at the time the 3eVolt just had better players and were gaining more from how I saw it not from their side. So if I turned down those LG guys my biggest fear was being autistic. The 3eVolt probably would've loved to gain the adavantage in slapping Russian’s weak leading. So that's my reasoning for merging. Apparently some night later within that week Chantakey, that little shit, came on and started to escalate shit against the 3e after we beat them in that big 35v35 gf. He began looking up people's facebook profiles and began to shitpost. It didn't help that the Russian and Waste were in teamspeak condoning it. If we did leave the LG the 3eVolt would have won league hands down, and since Godfried is a nerd I didn’t want that to happen. I do feel awfully sorry for the pain that Asianp and Vortex got within that time because before all that shit the 3eVolt and the 45e had a friendly rivalr, even though we destroyed them every time in groupfights. But what I did kept my regiment together and if I did anything drastic as to leave it would've made it only worse for everyone.
That there is the ONLY reason why the 45e is being held back from making the all time regiment list as I've been reading through the previous pages.
Nothing I do now will ever change what happened in the past, if anything, I would have merged with the LG if I knew what they were going to do. I won't be surprised if I get messaged saying "YOU'RE A TRAITOR TO THE CAUSE" or whatever the fuck you guys did in the past. Everyone that did participate in that should just feel ashamed. Making jokes in teamspeak were enough but doing it just to harass others is just fucking wrong xD.
Now that I've gotten that part out of the way I'll give my final assessment on the 45e. I was proud of nearly every member that joined and gained and respected many as some of our friendships online still continue to today. Our skill was only matched by the regiments that are currently on the all time regimental list and in all reality if we could clone the exact person and put them in both regiments we could take the 71st and below. The Old 3eVolt and the 12th were dogshit from how I remember it and I feel confident about beating everyone else. Take this post with a grain of salt and if you do respond about the drama part of the 45e I will just ignore you as that is now in the past and we should all move on.
P.S. If you were to include the 45e, by all means also include the LG. Even though I still hate them to today they were still a great regiment to face while we carried them to a league win.
Ok, your so-called explanation was complete and utter horseshit, and emphasized what a despicable and degenerate human you are.You're leaving out the part where I then explained what I meant by that.Skewing my words, what I have told people is that what happened to Vortex was largely because of his actions.I mean, I have the logs right here. "Vortex is a massive piece of shit who deserved every part of it." There, not skewing your words now. Happy?
Anyways if anyone wants to speak to me about my life view's, philosophies, how all this drama started from my perspective and what I did to stop it please do PM me and we can have a calm nice chat.
7 Months later the NW drama club is still rolling baby
Alsoplease do PM me
Trying to cause more problems is worthless, the whole reason I got mad at you in the first place was because I thought I was explaining my personal views to you, I even said that they were my Personal Views. You then used it as reasons to cause more problems between LG and 3eVolt.
Oh, sorry I didn’t mean it that way. By both sides I meant the 45e side and the LG side. I don’t blame the 3e at allAs “one of the 45e” that joined the LG, I do believe it was mostly certain members from the former 45e that caused the issue. However, there was no one from either side that did much to try to stop it. I of course did not partake in anything, but did not be the voice of reason either. Pretty much everyone that knew about it had some of the blame
We did. We talked to Russian and Waste several times to try to end it.
I think you got em allOk, your so-called explanation was complete and utter horseshit, and emphasized what a despicable and degenerate human you are.You're leaving out the part where I then explained what I meant by that.Skewing my words, what I have told people is that what happened to Vortex was largely because of his actions.I mean, I have the logs right here. "Vortex is a massive piece of shit who deserved every part of it." There, not skewing your words now. Happy?
Anyways if anyone wants to speak to me about my life view's, philosophies, how all this drama started from my perspective and what I did to stop it please do PM me and we can have a calm nice chat.
7 Months later the NW drama club is still rolling baby
Alsoplease do PM me
Trying to cause more problems is worthless, the whole reason I got mad at you in the first place was because I thought I was explaining my personal views to you, I even said that they were my Personal Views. You then used it as reasons to cause more problems between LG and 3eVolt.
Let's see your explanation here: "if you are an asshole you shouldn't think that you're not gonna get hit back, even if it's super low."
I asked you why Vortex supposedly deserved to be doxxed, harassed, and berated by you and members of your regiment. Your response was "vortex is a massive piece of shit."
The only reason I spread it around to my friends was due to the unnerving nature of your statement. I felt the need to show how you truly felt about these things. You're a complete retard if you actually think I was just doing it "to cause more problems between LG and 3eVolt." I love my bb RussianFury, and I hate community drama (except when its memey), especially to this extent. I NEVER said that these views reflect the opinions of the LG. I even included the bit about your "personal opinions" within the screenshots. Perhaps if you weren't such a "waste" of oxygen and had an IQ above 50 you could comprehend this.
Have I let everything in there, or am I missing out other bits where you act like a troglodyte?
Well I appreciate those in the 3evolt coming to my Asian and Vortex's defense now. It's too little to late. A lot of the 3eVolt at the time didn't care about us being bullied only a select few helped us especially me because it was affecting my mental health by my suicidal attempt being made public and being harassed about it. Really the only people who cared were Godfreid and Asian but everyone else to a very extent didn't do anything to help being in the regiment, hell some of them even memed along with the LG, About a failed suicide attempt. If anyone has a right to have a problem about it It's me Asian and Vortex, But I don't see Asian posting because he probably got over it like I did. So don't you dare take the moral high ground when it had nothing to do with anyone else but the 3 of us. You're not trying to help me asian or vortex, you're making a convenience of bullying support your reason for not giving LG a spot on a list.idk if this is directed towards me or not, but I recall trying to help you and saying those memes were fucked up. In addition, I've argued against this since the get-go lol.
Let's try to stay civil please.You've already done more than Windflower with that simple post. You have my vote for the next election
Do you have a raging hard on for me CluelessWill? I see you sneak dissing me quite frequently and I find it odd. You have a hard time talking to or liking a person who doesn't take anyone's shit? Do you need to vent your feelings to me in Teamspeak CluelessWill?Let's try to stay civil please.You've already done more than Windflower with that simple post. You have my vote for the next election
But Pickle is the anti-Christ, Satan, Hitler and a rapist guys. Apoc said so!
Community rep is off, and so are the gloves.Do you have a raging hard on for me CluelessWill? I see you sneak dissing me quite frequently and I find it odd. You have a hard time talking to or liking a person who doesn't take anyone's shit? Do you need to vent your feelings to me in Teamspeak CluelessWill?Let's try to stay civil please.You've already done more than Windflower with that simple post. You have my vote for the next election
Windflower out here memeing negroes
So he’s merely Mussolini, thenBut Pickle is the anti-Christ, Satan, Hitler and a rapist guys. Apoc said so!
Not so much anymore because he unlocked the thread.
Still without a word to me though.
First off you disappeared for like half your CR tenure so that's what I was making fun of you for. Second, you consistently talked shit about the LG both in and out of game and that is extremely annoying. Attempting to justify why people wouldn't join the shitty 30th and then crying when we beat you every linebattle was both laughable and highlighted how prone your character was to deflecting for how bad your regiment was for how we got good so fast. Maybe you should up your charisma trait so people would actually want to join a regiment you make instead of crying wolf on why others are so good. Finally I also would never want to waste the precious oxygen on this planet by trying to talk to you so no need.Do you have a raging hard on for me CluelessWill? I see you sneak dissing me quite frequently and I find it odd. You have a hard time talking to or liking a person who doesn't take anyone's shit? Do you need to vent your feelings to me in Teamspeak CluelessWill?Let's try to stay civil please.You've already done more than Windflower with that simple post. You have my vote for the next election
I was gone for 2 weeks lol. And of course I always talked shit the LG were the most toxic regiment in the game. I never really cared about people not wanting to join the 30th lol I was satisfied with the members Panda and I had because it made it even more satisfying when we beat and tied regiments with much better players. You guys "getting better fast" hmmmmmmmmmm, for sure not a bandwagon or steroid in the form of the 45e.. When the LG was in S1 in NAPL we were on an even level. The LG surpassed us ye but we still competed and were top 3-5 pretty much always in that shithole of a meta 2017 was. The truth is that the LG has been scared its entire career, and you wouldn't talk to me in ts because you're scared tooFirst off you disappeared for like half your CR tenure so that's what I was making fun of you for. Second, you consistently talked shit about the LG both in and out of game and that is extremely annoying. Attempting to justify why people wouldn't join the shitty 30th and then crying when we beat you every linebattle was both laughable and highlighted how prone your character was to deflecting for how bad your regiment was for how we got good so fast. Maybe you should up your charisma trait so people would actually want to join a regiment you make instead of crying wolf on why others are so good. Finally I also would never want to waste the precious oxygen on this planet by trying to talk to you so no need.Do you have a raging hard on for me CluelessWill? I see you sneak dissing me quite frequently and I find it odd. You have a hard time talking to or liking a person who doesn't take anyone's shit? Do you need to vent your feelings to me in Teamspeak CluelessWill?Let's try to stay civil please.You've already done more than Windflower with that simple post. You have my vote for the next election
This is extremely petty
Ahh yes, we were toxic. I suppose toxic was the best way of you trying to figure out an argument as to why you lost so often.I was gone for 2 weeks lol. And of course I always talked shit the LG were the most toxic regiment in the game. I never really cared about people not wanting to join the 30th lol I was satisfied with the members Panda and I had because it made it even more satisfying when we beat and tied regiments with much better players. You guys "getting better fast" hmmmmmmmmmm, for sure not a bandwagon or steroid in the form of the 45e.. When the LG was in S1 in NAPL we were on an even level. The LG surpassed us ye but we still competed and were top 3-5 pretty much always in that shithole of a meta 2017 was. The truth is that the LG has been scared its entire career, and you wouldn't talk to me in ts because you're scared tooFirst off you disappeared for like half your CR tenure so that's what I was making fun of you for. Second, you consistently talked shit about the LG both in and out of game and that is extremely annoying. Attempting to justify why people wouldn't join the shitty 30th and then crying when we beat you every linebattle was both laughable and highlighted how prone your character was to deflecting for how bad your regiment was for how we got good so fast. Maybe you should up your charisma trait so people would actually want to join a regiment you make instead of crying wolf on why others are so good. Finally I also would never want to waste the precious oxygen on this planet by trying to talk to you so no need.Do you have a raging hard on for me CluelessWill? I see you sneak dissing me quite frequently and I find it odd. You have a hard time talking to or liking a person who doesn't take anyone's shit? Do you need to vent your feelings to me in Teamspeak CluelessWill?Let's try to stay civil please.You've already done more than Windflower with that simple post. You have my vote for the next electionb*tch.;D
:o ???I was gone for 2 weeks lol. And of course I always talked shit the LG were the most toxic regiment in the game. I never really cared about people not wanting to join the 30th lol I was satisfied with the members Panda and I had because it made it even more satisfying when we beat and tied regiments with much better players. You guys "getting better fast" hmmmmmmmmmm, for sure not a bandwagon or steroid in the form of the 45e.. When the LG was in S1 in NAPL we were on an even level. The LG surpassed us ye but we still competed and were top 3-5 pretty much always in that shithole of a meta 2017 was. The truth is that the LG has been scared its entire career, and you wouldn't talk to me in ts because you're scared tooFirst off you disappeared for like half your CR tenure so that's what I was making fun of you for. Second, you consistently talked shit about the LG both in and out of game and that is extremely annoying. Attempting to justify why people wouldn't join the shitty 30th and then crying when we beat you every linebattle was both laughable and highlighted how prone your character was to deflecting for how bad your regiment was for how we got good so fast. Maybe you should up your charisma trait so people would actually want to join a regiment you make instead of crying wolf on why others are so good. Finally I also would never want to waste the precious oxygen on this planet by trying to talk to you so no need.Do you have a raging hard on for me CluelessWill? I see you sneak dissing me quite frequently and I find it odd. You have a hard time talking to or liking a person who doesn't take anyone's shit? Do you need to vent your feelings to me in Teamspeak CluelessWill?Let's try to stay civil please.You've already done more than Windflower with that simple post. You have my vote for the next electionb*tch.;D
I mean thats not what i said but okay lol. That's weird coming from a loyal 63e pawn. I mean this is why leaders have been subpar, avoiding melee is heavily frowned upon even when the odds are stacked against you. I dont really know what argument you mean like tf are you on about fabricating and spouting shit? And yeah I cared that there were only 2 regiments with the majority of the competitive community in it but I never cared to have those members especially in that capacity as I am a moral god and have always been against the way of the bandwagon. Plus our melee was pretty decent for a time and I'm not ashamed of it at all. Maybe we fell off a little bit at the ending times of our existence but the community was a bit more balanced then and we still managed because of how bad leaders were still. The only thing I'll gloat about is winning NAPL twice. ;) So I'd say we've been 1st 2nd 3rd 4th best at some point yanno? I can say I wasn't a hoe and hopped straight to your regiments rival aka the best regiment in the game, seems fishyy Willy.Ahh yes, we were toxic. I suppose toxic was the best way of you trying to figure out an argument as to why you lost so often.SpoilerI was gone for 2 weeks lol. And of course I always talked shit the LG were the most toxic regiment in the game. I never really cared about people not wanting to join the 30th lol I was satisfied with the members Panda and I had because it made it even more satisfying when we beat and tied regiments with much better players. You guys "getting better fast" hmmmmmmmmmm, for sure not a bandwagon or steroid in the form of the 45e.. When the LG was in S1 in NAPL we were on an even level. The LG surpassed us ye but we still competed and were top 3-5 pretty much always in that shithole of a meta 2017 was. The truth is that the LG has been scared its entire career, and you wouldn't talk to me in ts because you're scared tooFirst off you disappeared for like half your CR tenure so that's what I was making fun of you for. Second, you consistently talked shit about the LG both in and out of game and that is extremely annoying. Attempting to justify why people wouldn't join the shitty 30th and then crying when we beat you every linebattle was both laughable and highlighted how prone your character was to deflecting for how bad your regiment was for how we got good so fast. Maybe you should up your charisma trait so people would actually want to join a regiment you make instead of crying wolf on why others are so good. Finally I also would never want to waste the precious oxygen on this planet by trying to talk to you so no need.Do you have a raging hard on for me CluelessWill? I see you sneak dissing me quite frequently and I find it odd. You have a hard time talking to or liking a person who doesn't take anyone's shit? Do you need to vent your feelings to me in Teamspeak CluelessWill?Let's try to stay civil please.You've already done more than Windflower with that simple post. You have my vote for the next electionb*tch.;D[close]
BUT MUH DISCIPLINE, THE 30TH IS SO DISCIPLINED, YEAH BOYS LETS RUN AWAY BOYS, OH YEAH BOYS LETS SHOW EM OUR DISCIPLINE AGAINST THEIR TOXICITY
That's honestly one of the most pathetic arguments I've heard and that's coming from me. Anyways, go on and tell me that you weren't jealous that actually good players joined the LG and 3e while no namers joined your regiment and consequently made sure it never accomplished anything if melee was involved. BANDWAGONARGUMENT.EXE
Also, if you couldn't be top 3 or 5 in a time period where there.. only like 6 regiments (maybe?) around then I'd feel bad for you, but go ahead and gloat about being number 3 with no chance of ever becoming number 2, yet alone number 1. That's like bragging about being the 3rd strongest man in a room with two well built blokes on one side and 3 inbred paraplegics with you being 5 foot tall and trying to use your strict bedtime as some sort of leverage in a fight. I would call you a bitch but that would be an insult to the word. ;D
Ahh yes, calling me a 63e pawn despite the fact that I left the 63e so I could learn from better players rather then be stuck with the same skill ceiling of the 63e. My time in the 12th, 3e and 2te taught me a lot and I'm forever grateful to have been able to meet such great people who were infinitely better than me in melee and had different perspectives of LB's. It helped me learn a lot about melee and actually help others as well from that knowledge. As a matter of fact I met some great friends from those regiments and can say that Who-, Mack, Salty, Tico, etc. were some amazing people. Good observation Flowerboy. I suppose that if I had kept myself in the lower tier regiments then I'd be just as bad as you because I'd never know what winning was like.I mean thats not what i said but okay lol. That's weird coming from a loyal 63e pawn. I mean this is why leaders have been subpar, avoiding melee is heavily frowned upon even when the odds are stacked against you. I dont really know what argument you mean like tf are you on about fabricating and spouting shit? And yeah I cared that there were only 2 regiments with the majority of the competitive community in it but I never cared to have those members especially in that capacity as I am a moral god and have always been against the way of the bandwagon. Plus our melee was pretty decent for a time and I'm not ashamed of it at all. Maybe we fell off a little bit at the ending times of our existence but the community was a bit more balanced then and we still managed because of how bad leaders were still. The only thing I'll gloat about is winning NAPL twice. ;) So I'd say we've been 1st 2nd 3rd 4th best at some point yanno? I can say I wasn't a hoe and hopped straight to your regiments rival aka the best regiment in the game, seems fishyy Willy.Ahh yes, we were toxic. I suppose toxic was the best way of you trying to figure out an argument as to why you lost so often.SpoilerI was gone for 2 weeks lol. And of course I always talked shit the LG were the most toxic regiment in the game. I never really cared about people not wanting to join the 30th lol I was satisfied with the members Panda and I had because it made it even more satisfying when we beat and tied regiments with much better players. You guys "getting better fast" hmmmmmmmmmm, for sure not a bandwagon or steroid in the form of the 45e.. When the LG was in S1 in NAPL we were on an even level. The LG surpassed us ye but we still competed and were top 3-5 pretty much always in that shithole of a meta 2017 was. The truth is that the LG has been scared its entire career, and you wouldn't talk to me in ts because you're scared tooFirst off you disappeared for like half your CR tenure so that's what I was making fun of you for. Second, you consistently talked shit about the LG both in and out of game and that is extremely annoying. Attempting to justify why people wouldn't join the shitty 30th and then crying when we beat you every linebattle was both laughable and highlighted how prone your character was to deflecting for how bad your regiment was for how we got good so fast. Maybe you should up your charisma trait so people would actually want to join a regiment you make instead of crying wolf on why others are so good. Finally I also would never want to waste the precious oxygen on this planet by trying to talk to you so no need.Do you have a raging hard on for me CluelessWill? I see you sneak dissing me quite frequently and I find it odd. You have a hard time talking to or liking a person who doesn't take anyone's shit? Do you need to vent your feelings to me in Teamspeak CluelessWill?Let's try to stay civil please.You've already done more than Windflower with that simple post. You have my vote for the next electionb*tch.;D[close]
BUT MUH DISCIPLINE, THE 30TH IS SO DISCIPLINED, YEAH BOYS LETS RUN AWAY BOYS, OH YEAH BOYS LETS SHOW EM OUR DISCIPLINE AGAINST THEIR TOXICITY
That's honestly one of the most pathetic arguments I've heard and that's coming from me. Anyways, go on and tell me that you weren't jealous that actually good players joined the LG and 3e while no namers joined your regiment and consequently made sure it never accomplished anything if melee was involved. BANDWAGONARGUMENT.EXE
Also, if you couldn't be top 3 or 5 in a time period where there.. only like 6 regiments (maybe?) around then I'd feel bad for you, but go ahead and gloat about being number 3 with no chance of ever becoming number 2, yet alone number 1. That's like bragging about being the 3rd strongest man in a room with two well built blokes on one side and 3 inbred paraplegics with you being 5 foot tall and trying to use your strict bedtime as some sort of leverage in a fight. I would call you a bitch but that would be an insult to the word. ;D
Ahh yes, calling me a 63e pawn despite the fact that I left the 63e so I could learn from better players rather then be stuck with the same skill ceiling of the 63e. My time in the 12th, 3e and 2te taught me a lot and I'm forever grateful to have been able to meet such great people who were infinitely better than me in melee and had different perspectives of LB's. It helped me learn a lot about melee and actually help others as well from that knowledge. As a matter of fact I met some great friends from those regiments and can say that Who-, Mack, Salty, Tico, etc. were some amazing people. Good observation Flowerboy. I suppose that if I had kept myself in the lower tier regiments then I'd be just as bad as you because I'd never know what winning was like.I mean thats not what i said but okay lol. That's weird coming from a loyal 63e pawn. I mean this is why leaders have been subpar, avoiding melee is heavily frowned upon even when the odds are stacked against you. I dont really know what argument you mean like tf are you on about fabricating and spouting shit? And yeah I cared that there were only 2 regiments with the majority of the competitive community in it but I never cared to have those members especially in that capacity as I am a moral god and have always been against the way of the bandwagon. Plus our melee was pretty decent for a time and I'm not ashamed of it at all. Maybe we fell off a little bit at the ending times of our existence but the community was a bit more balanced then and we still managed because of how bad leaders were still. The only thing I'll gloat about is winning NAPL twice. ;) So I'd say we've been 1st 2nd 3rd 4th best at some point yanno? I can say I wasn't a hoe and hopped straight to your regiments rival aka the best regiment in the game, seems fishyy Willy.Ahh yes, we were toxic. I suppose toxic was the best way of you trying to figure out an argument as to why you lost so often.SpoilerI was gone for 2 weeks lol. And of course I always talked shit the LG were the most toxic regiment in the game. I never really cared about people not wanting to join the 30th lol I was satisfied with the members Panda and I had because it made it even more satisfying when we beat and tied regiments with much better players. You guys "getting better fast" hmmmmmmmmmm, for sure not a bandwagon or steroid in the form of the 45e.. When the LG was in S1 in NAPL we were on an even level. The LG surpassed us ye but we still competed and were top 3-5 pretty much always in that shithole of a meta 2017 was. The truth is that the LG has been scared its entire career, and you wouldn't talk to me in ts because you're scared tooFirst off you disappeared for like half your CR tenure so that's what I was making fun of you for. Second, you consistently talked shit about the LG both in and out of game and that is extremely annoying. Attempting to justify why people wouldn't join the shitty 30th and then crying when we beat you every linebattle was both laughable and highlighted how prone your character was to deflecting for how bad your regiment was for how we got good so fast. Maybe you should up your charisma trait so people would actually want to join a regiment you make instead of crying wolf on why others are so good. Finally I also would never want to waste the precious oxygen on this planet by trying to talk to you so no need.Do you have a raging hard on for me CluelessWill? I see you sneak dissing me quite frequently and I find it odd. You have a hard time talking to or liking a person who doesn't take anyone's shit? Do you need to vent your feelings to me in Teamspeak CluelessWill?Let's try to stay civil please.You've already done more than Windflower with that simple post. You have my vote for the next electionb*tch.;D[close]
BUT MUH DISCIPLINE, THE 30TH IS SO DISCIPLINED, YEAH BOYS LETS RUN AWAY BOYS, OH YEAH BOYS LETS SHOW EM OUR DISCIPLINE AGAINST THEIR TOXICITY
That's honestly one of the most pathetic arguments I've heard and that's coming from me. Anyways, go on and tell me that you weren't jealous that actually good players joined the LG and 3e while no namers joined your regiment and consequently made sure it never accomplished anything if melee was involved. BANDWAGONARGUMENT.EXE
Also, if you couldn't be top 3 or 5 in a time period where there.. only like 6 regiments (maybe?) around then I'd feel bad for you, but go ahead and gloat about being number 3 with no chance of ever becoming number 2, yet alone number 1. That's like bragging about being the 3rd strongest man in a room with two well built blokes on one side and 3 inbred paraplegics with you being 5 foot tall and trying to use your strict bedtime as some sort of leverage in a fight. I would call you a bitch but that would be an insult to the word. ;D
Additionally, winning NAPL's is no big feat considering the state of competition and general exhaustion of the scene when you won. It would explain why you never won any of the starting NWL's when the competition was actually something. Beating shit regiments and then getting a few narrow, usually controversial wins, on top regiments to secure a victory sure is something to brag about. If these victories were landslide melee wins then sure I'd be impressed that you developed your rankers into good players, but usually it came down to hill camping, being forced to move, then going back to the same hill after we try to engage. That's not Erwin Rommel level at all.
lol nice you had a good time bud but ur prime was in the 63e. Did you learn all that from all those players only to end up a worse player and leader than I? If winning anything in that era isnt impressive then you can go ahead and disregard the LGs achievements too considering the state of competition and the general exhaustion of the scene they won in. I never won any of the starting NWLs because I never left my shitty regiment that I started out with (31e). I left the 54th on purpose to join a specifically bad and small regiment. Its where I met KOSJ and Emo and made friendships and never felt the need to leave and join a better regiment because I was a loyal nibba and wanted to win and climb the ranks and get better as a player, I wasnt really the leader of the regiment. Plus with that whole 30th shabang was Pandas leading too but it still wasn't hillcamping. In fact the video we tied the LG you guys got frustrated and started hillcamping US. It's easy to fall on the whole hillcamp thing because you arent getting into a groupfight every round but cmon Billiam. You aren't capable of even making half as a succesful regiment as the 30th so sit the fuck down.Ahh yes, calling me a 63e pawn despite the fact that I left the 63e so I could learn from better players rather then be stuck with the same skill ceiling of the 63e. My time in the 12th, 3e and 2te taught me a lot and I'm forever grateful to have been able to meet such great people who were infinitely better than me in melee and had different perspectives of LB's. It helped me learn a lot about melee and actually help others as well from that knowledge. As a matter of fact I met some great friends from those regiments and can say that Who-, Mack, Salty, Tico, etc. were some amazing people. Good observation Flowerboy. I suppose that if I had kept myself in the lower tier regiments then I'd be just as bad as you because I'd never know what winning was like.I mean thats not what i said but okay lol. That's weird coming from a loyal 63e pawn. I mean this is why leaders have been subpar, avoiding melee is heavily frowned upon even when the odds are stacked against you. I dont really know what argument you mean like tf are you on about fabricating and spouting shit? And yeah I cared that there were only 2 regiments with the majority of the competitive community in it but I never cared to have those members especially in that capacity as I am a moral god and have always been against the way of the bandwagon. Plus our melee was pretty decent for a time and I'm not ashamed of it at all. Maybe we fell off a little bit at the ending times of our existence but the community was a bit more balanced then and we still managed because of how bad leaders were still. The only thing I'll gloat about is winning NAPL twice. ;) So I'd say we've been 1st 2nd 3rd 4th best at some point yanno? I can say I wasn't a hoe and hopped straight to your regiments rival aka the best regiment in the game, seems fishyy Willy.Ahh yes, we were toxic. I suppose toxic was the best way of you trying to figure out an argument as to why you lost so often.SpoilerI was gone for 2 weeks lol. And of course I always talked shit the LG were the most toxic regiment in the game. I never really cared about people not wanting to join the 30th lol I was satisfied with the members Panda and I had because it made it even more satisfying when we beat and tied regiments with much better players. You guys "getting better fast" hmmmmmmmmmm, for sure not a bandwagon or steroid in the form of the 45e.. When the LG was in S1 in NAPL we were on an even level. The LG surpassed us ye but we still competed and were top 3-5 pretty much always in that shithole of a meta 2017 was. The truth is that the LG has been scared its entire career, and you wouldn't talk to me in ts because you're scared tooFirst off you disappeared for like half your CR tenure so that's what I was making fun of you for. Second, you consistently talked shit about the LG both in and out of game and that is extremely annoying. Attempting to justify why people wouldn't join the shitty 30th and then crying when we beat you every linebattle was both laughable and highlighted how prone your character was to deflecting for how bad your regiment was for how we got good so fast. Maybe you should up your charisma trait so people would actually want to join a regiment you make instead of crying wolf on why others are so good. Finally I also would never want to waste the precious oxygen on this planet by trying to talk to you so no need.Do you have a raging hard on for me CluelessWill? I see you sneak dissing me quite frequently and I find it odd. You have a hard time talking to or liking a person who doesn't take anyone's shit? Do you need to vent your feelings to me in Teamspeak CluelessWill?Let's try to stay civil please.You've already done more than Windflower with that simple post. You have my vote for the next electionb*tch.;D[close]
BUT MUH DISCIPLINE, THE 30TH IS SO DISCIPLINED, YEAH BOYS LETS RUN AWAY BOYS, OH YEAH BOYS LETS SHOW EM OUR DISCIPLINE AGAINST THEIR TOXICITY
That's honestly one of the most pathetic arguments I've heard and that's coming from me. Anyways, go on and tell me that you weren't jealous that actually good players joined the LG and 3e while no namers joined your regiment and consequently made sure it never accomplished anything if melee was involved. BANDWAGONARGUMENT.EXE
Also, if you couldn't be top 3 or 5 in a time period where there.. only like 6 regiments (maybe?) around then I'd feel bad for you, but go ahead and gloat about being number 3 with no chance of ever becoming number 2, yet alone number 1. That's like bragging about being the 3rd strongest man in a room with two well built blokes on one side and 3 inbred paraplegics with you being 5 foot tall and trying to use your strict bedtime as some sort of leverage in a fight. I would call you a bitch but that would be an insult to the word. ;D
Additionally, winning NAPL's is no big feat considering the state of competition and general exhaustion of the scene when you won. It would explain why you never won any of the starting NWL's when the competition was actually something. Beating shit regiments and then getting a few narrow, usually controversial wins, on top regiments to secure a victory sure is something to brag about. If these victories were landslide melee wins then sure I'd be impressed that you developed your rankers into good players, but usually it came down to hill camping, being forced to move, then going back to the same hill after we try to engage. That's not Erwin Rommel level at all.
why don’t u guys just ft7
Spoilers and paragraphsOver 10,000 posts and time as CR and you can’t even separate paragraphs, sad
Please
why don’t u guys just ft7
Will makes better youtube videos, there discussion settled.
Uhhhh Windy I don’t know where you get the idea that you were somehow a better player than Will(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpixel.nymag.com%2Fimgs%2Fdaily%2Fvulture%2F2015%2Fgifs%2Fleo-toast-9.w529.h352.gif&hash=00263cc3f2ef4f0f11253c96e377e67bdbe83792)
AlsoSpoilers and paragraphsOver 10,000 posts and time as CR and you can’t even separate paragraphs, sad
Please
lol nice you had a good time bud but ur prime was in the 63e. Did you learn all that from all those players only to end up a worse player and leader than I? If winning anything in that era isnt impressive then you can go ahead and disregard the LGs achievements too considering the state of competition and the general exhaustion of the scene they won in. I never won any of the starting NWLs because I never left my shitty regiment that I started out with (31e). I left the 54th on purpose to join a specifically bad and small regiment. Its where I met KOSJ and Emo and made friendships and never felt the need to leave and join a better regiment because I was a loyal nibba and wanted to win and climb the ranks and get better as a player, I wasnt really the leader of the regiment. Plus with that whole 30th shabang was Pandas leading too but it still wasn't hillcamping. In fact the video we tied the LG you guys got frustrated and started hillcamping US. It's easy to fall on the whole hillcamp thing because you arent getting into a groupfight every round but cmon Billiam. You aren't capable of even making half as a succesful regiment as the 30th so sit the fuck down.Ahh yes, calling me a 63e pawn despite the fact that I left the 63e so I could learn from better players rather then be stuck with the same skill ceiling of the 63e. My time in the 12th, 3e and 2te taught me a lot and I'm forever grateful to have been able to meet such great people who were infinitely better than me in melee and had different perspectives of LB's. It helped me learn a lot about melee and actually help others as well from that knowledge. As a matter of fact I met some great friends from those regiments and can say that Who-, Mack, Salty, Tico, etc. were some amazing people. Good observation Flowerboy. I suppose that if I had kept myself in the lower tier regiments then I'd be just as bad as you because I'd never know what winning was like.I mean thats not what i said but okay lol. That's weird coming from a loyal 63e pawn. I mean this is why leaders have been subpar, avoiding melee is heavily frowned upon even when the odds are stacked against you. I dont really know what argument you mean like tf are you on about fabricating and spouting shit? And yeah I cared that there were only 2 regiments with the majority of the competitive community in it but I never cared to have those members especially in that capacity as I am a moral god and have always been against the way of the bandwagon. Plus our melee was pretty decent for a time and I'm not ashamed of it at all. Maybe we fell off a little bit at the ending times of our existence but the community was a bit more balanced then and we still managed because of how bad leaders were still. The only thing I'll gloat about is winning NAPL twice. ;) So I'd say we've been 1st 2nd 3rd 4th best at some point yanno? I can say I wasn't a hoe and hopped straight to your regiments rival aka the best regiment in the game, seems fishyy Willy.Ahh yes, we were toxic. I suppose toxic was the best way of you trying to figure out an argument as to why you lost so often.SpoilerI was gone for 2 weeks lol. And of course I always talked shit the LG were the most toxic regiment in the game. I never really cared about people not wanting to join the 30th lol I was satisfied with the members Panda and I had because it made it even more satisfying when we beat and tied regiments with much better players. You guys "getting better fast" hmmmmmmmmmm, for sure not a bandwagon or steroid in the form of the 45e.. When the LG was in S1 in NAPL we were on an even level. The LG surpassed us ye but we still competed and were top 3-5 pretty much always in that shithole of a meta 2017 was. The truth is that the LG has been scared its entire career, and you wouldn't talk to me in ts because you're scared tooFirst off you disappeared for like half your CR tenure so that's what I was making fun of you for. Second, you consistently talked shit about the LG both in and out of game and that is extremely annoying. Attempting to justify why people wouldn't join the shitty 30th and then crying when we beat you every linebattle was both laughable and highlighted how prone your character was to deflecting for how bad your regiment was for how we got good so fast. Maybe you should up your charisma trait so people would actually want to join a regiment you make instead of crying wolf on why others are so good. Finally I also would never want to waste the precious oxygen on this planet by trying to talk to you so no need.Do you have a raging hard on for me CluelessWill? I see you sneak dissing me quite frequently and I find it odd. You have a hard time talking to or liking a person who doesn't take anyone's shit? Do you need to vent your feelings to me in Teamspeak CluelessWill?Let's try to stay civil please.You've already done more than Windflower with that simple post. You have my vote for the next electionb*tch.;D[close]
BUT MUH DISCIPLINE, THE 30TH IS SO DISCIPLINED, YEAH BOYS LETS RUN AWAY BOYS, OH YEAH BOYS LETS SHOW EM OUR DISCIPLINE AGAINST THEIR TOXICITY
That's honestly one of the most pathetic arguments I've heard and that's coming from me. Anyways, go on and tell me that you weren't jealous that actually good players joined the LG and 3e while no namers joined your regiment and consequently made sure it never accomplished anything if melee was involved. BANDWAGONARGUMENT.EXE
Also, if you couldn't be top 3 or 5 in a time period where there.. only like 6 regiments (maybe?) around then I'd feel bad for you, but go ahead and gloat about being number 3 with no chance of ever becoming number 2, yet alone number 1. That's like bragging about being the 3rd strongest man in a room with two well built blokes on one side and 3 inbred paraplegics with you being 5 foot tall and trying to use your strict bedtime as some sort of leverage in a fight. I would call you a bitch but that would be an insult to the word. ;D
Additionally, winning NAPL's is no big feat considering the state of competition and general exhaustion of the scene when you won. It would explain why you never won any of the starting NWL's when the competition was actually something. Beating shit regiments and then getting a few narrow, usually controversial wins, on top regiments to secure a victory sure is something to brag about. If these victories were landslide melee wins then sure I'd be impressed that you developed your rankers into good players, but usually it came down to hill camping, being forced to move, then going back to the same hill after we try to engage. That's not Erwin Rommel level at all.
Will still didn’t address my point I don’t like shots being taken at the regiment that brought you to relevancy smh :-XCan't bite the hand that feeds you but can you go to a new hand and get fed from them instead.
5th was better than both regs anyways
Y’all over here gettin’ handed relevancy while I made my own relevancy 8)Will still didn’t address my point I don’t like shots being taken at the regiment that brought you to relevancy smh :-XCan't bite the hand that feeds you but can you go to a new hand and get fed from them instead.
Welcome back to some quality banter. Tonight we have a treat, William takes on the Windflower, in a no-holds barred match...BUT WHATS THIS?! OUT OF NOWHERE, GRIMSIGHT GOES IN WITH A CHAIR, AND WILLIAM IS DOWN! I REPEAT, WILLIAM IS DOWN!We have to make it a hell in a cell so no one can interfere
Y’all over here gettin’ handed relevancy while I made my own relevancy 8)Will still didn’t address my point I don’t like shots being taken at the regiment that brought you to relevancy smh :-XCan't bite the hand that feeds you but can you go to a new hand and get fed from them instead.
Y’all over here gettin’ handed relevancy while I made my own relevancy 8)Will still didn’t address my point I don’t like shots being taken at the regiment that brought you to relevancy smh :-XCan't bite the hand that feeds you but can you go to a new hand and get fed from them instead.
Boi your point is invalid because I was relevant when I was a pub with no reg all the way back in 2012/13 hell there was a whole steam group to ban me with like 500+ members at its peak.
(https://imgur.com/rrDP7H7.png)
Junedragon was the best CR
Y’all over here gettin’ handed relevancy while I made my own relevancy 8)Will still didn’t address my point I don’t like shots being taken at the regiment that brought you to relevancy smh :-XCan't bite the hand that feeds you but can you go to a new hand and get fed from them instead.
Boi your point is invalid because I was relevant when I was a pub with no reg all the way back in 2012/13 hell there was a whole steam group to ban me with like 500+ members at its peak.
more like you were in the reddit
fake news
(https://imgur.com/rrDP7H7.png)
(https://imgur.com/rrDP7H7.png)hahahahahahhahahahaha holy fuck im done
You tell him big boy!hahahahahahhahahahaha holy fuck im doneSpoiler
???????????????????????????????????????????????:o ???I was gone for 2 weeks lol. And of course I always talked shit the LG were the most toxic regiment in the game. I never really cared about people not wanting to join the 30th lol I was satisfied with the members Panda and I had because it made it even more satisfying when we beat and tied regiments with much better players. You guys "getting better fast" hmmmmmmmmmm, for sure not a bandwagon or steroid in the form of the 45e.. When the LG was in S1 in NAPL we were on an even level. The LG surpassed us ye but we still competed and were top 3-5 pretty much always in that shithole of a meta 2017 was. The truth is that the LG has been scared its entire career, and you wouldn't talk to me in ts because you're scared tooFirst off you disappeared for like half your CR tenure so that's what I was making fun of you for. Second, you consistently talked shit about the LG both in and out of game and that is extremely annoying. Attempting to justify why people wouldn't join the shitty 30th and then crying when we beat you every linebattle was both laughable and highlighted how prone your character was to deflecting for how bad your regiment was for how we got good so fast. Maybe you should up your charisma trait so people would actually want to join a regiment you make instead of crying wolf on why others are so good. Finally I also would never want to waste the precious oxygen on this planet by trying to talk to you so no need.Do you have a raging hard on for me CluelessWill? I see you sneak dissing me quite frequently and I find it odd. You have a hard time talking to or liking a person who doesn't take anyone's shit? Do you need to vent your feelings to me in Teamspeak CluelessWill?Let's try to stay civil please.You've already done more than Windflower with that simple post. You have my vote for the next electionb*tch.;D
This was a big post
My meme was done entirely to satirize this thread where rather then people actually trying to make a statement with supporting evidence people they instead just use personal insults and think that wins an argument. Either way I don't really get much from Grim's meme besides recycled stereotypes that people who vaguely care about their sentences are somehow fedora cringelords. The best attack in there is that I'm a 63e groupie but that's the most low testosterone insult out there that I'm frankly disappointed. I didn't realize that me ranking him so low on my list would have such a profound effect on his ego considering the whole point of it was to trigger people.This was a big post
I mean.
You are talking alot about 'actually thinking and making arguments', but like...you kind of brought out the memes first.
I'm just saying.
edit: Also, weren't you insulting Windflower just a page or so prior?
as I am a moral god
as I am a moral god
we now observe the moral god ranting like a child on the forums he used to keep in check. a rare sight, please disable the flash on your camera so as not to spook him.
oh shit i spooked himu ok
Update list when¿¿
Ahahaha this was qualityYou tell him big boy!hahahahahahhahahahaha holy fuck im doneSpoiler
(https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/7VDC1qFg2tOwW9WyeymK5u8tc_jDgKn0rCUR-E9QY5Q/https/img.fireden.net/v/image/1510/02/1510026912606.jpg?width=400&height=233)
had to import members into your regiment to beat the 3e because you were scared of them xd bantzExcccuseee youuu
tfYea that was absolute quality but my final standings are
did you not even see Grimsight's post Theodin?
??? ???QuoteAhahaha this was qualityYou tell him big boy!hahahahahahhahahahaha holy fuck im doneSpoiler
(https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/7VDC1qFg2tOwW9WyeymK5u8tc_jDgKn0rCUR-E9QY5Q/https/img.fireden.net/v/image/1510/02/1510026912606.jpg?width=400&height=233)
I think we can all agree Windflower takes the biggest loss out of this banter triangle
this windflower kid has to not only get carried in nw but also in meme banter
sad
I can live with thattfYea that was absolute quality but my final standings are
did you not even see Grimsight's post Theodin?
Grimsight, with the one hit punch
Clueless, with the two quality memes
Windflower
this windflower kid has to not only get carried in nw but also in meme banterstfu I will fucking lazer you with alien eyes and explode your fuckin head
sad
Someone’s salty he lost a meme war to two people??? ???QuoteAhahaha this was qualityYou tell him big boy!hahahahahahhahahahaha holy fuck im doneSpoiler
(https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/7VDC1qFg2tOwW9WyeymK5u8tc_jDgKn0rCUR-E9QY5Q/https/img.fireden.net/v/image/1510/02/1510026912606.jpg?width=400&height=233)
I think we can all agree Windflower takes the biggest loss out of this banter triangle
No points made or quality memes
Heavy bias and salt detected
tfYea that was absolute quality but my final standings are
did you not even see Grimsight's post Theodin?
Grimsight, with the one hit punch
Clueless, with the two quality memes
Windflower
I meanGrimsight gave Will a L size 8. William gave Wind an L size 5. Windflower handed out 0 L's and just looked angery.
I don't know why you guys are thinking William gave Windflower a bigger L by posting some stock meme than Grimsight posting a well-crafted and original meme on William.
But, alright. I rate it at Grimsight, Windflower, then William. Windflower being in the middle just because Grimsight demolished William.
The best attack in there is that I'm a 63e groupie but that's the most low testosterone insult out there that I'm frankly disappointed.
The best attack in there is that I'm a 63e groupie but that's the most low testosterone insult out there that I'm frankly disappointed.
HAHAHAHA holy shit "low test" coming from king soy himself
I'm not here to provide a "well thought argument", I'm just here to point out how insanely smug and masturbatory you are. I skim through your posts and my brain goes numb. All your "arguments" are thick skulled and poorly thought out. I don't want to get bogged down with someone who mistakenly thinks themselves a genius. LE 6/10 POST, DISAPPOINTING, NOT A CIVIL GENTLEMAN'S ARGUMENT.
Say my name three times in the mirror and see what happens. I don't take bait, I AM INVOKED, and proceed to send your goblin ass back to the nether realm where you belong
By all means continue roleplaying like this is debate class. I await your 6 paragraph reply. Make sure to run it by your English teacher first
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q0NsZy5iUI
Spoiler
Sorry I just have to say that grim is a platinum tier shit poster. God bless
Update list when¿¿
So, I am dead on US_1, and the respawn time is ridiculous so I decided, WHY NOT TALK ABOUT MELEE ON THE FORUMS?! Except...What am I gonna talk about?
Well, I am gonna talk about pretty much everything besides blocking in melee!
OK lets get to the most basic trick, Feinting
Now feinting is the pub-stomping gift from the gods, it will get your bayonet into that mediocre blockers body in no time. All ya gotta do is right click to cancel your attack then left click to get it up again. This will allow you to change your directions REALLY fast if done right. This will allow you to kill most low level- medium level blockers. HOWEVER, like all things, feinting is best done in moderation, which brings me to the counter of feinting. You are always gonna encounter that one guy who doesn't know the meaning of the word moderation, hes gonna be spammin all over the place. At first you are gonna be like "Gee golly, he sure likes feinting, and I dont know how to stop him!" then, you are gonna realize that you are not playing Final Fantasy and you can attack out of turn. Feinting has a key flaw- it slows down the initial attack. This opens the gate way for the quick minded person to sneak an attack in while he is feinting, and if he is feinting non-stop, you dont even have to guess when his next feint is gonna be.
Now, the next trick, Chambers
One day, you are gonna be having a swell time on US_1 or EU_1 or wherever you play, and you are gonna be approaching ye old n00b when suddenly, the unexpected happened! He somehow blocked your attack without even blocking at all! This is called a chamber, where you just simply block an attack, with an attack. Given a little luck, people can pull of a chamber unintentionally, all they have to do is happen to attack in the same direction as you at the right time. However if you do not wanna rely on luck alone, learning to chamber can be quite simple. All you have to do is attack the same direction as your opponent right as he finishes readying his attack (this can vary for the down and the up stab), and boom, you blocked his attack and your attack is on its way towards his now unguarded body (chambers have a stun effect on them making them really difficult to block). Just how do you block the perfect weapon that is the chamber? You cant feint around it unless he decides to pull his chamber back, because the chamber would get to you before you finished the feint in the form of a regular attack, so just how do you counter it? Simple, you screw up the timing. In chambering, timing is everything, so if you want to throw off a chamber, you simply hold your attack back abit, then let go once you see him trying for the chamber. However, if this does not seem to work for you, there is always the option to chamber his chamber (Yeah, its possible, and really really fun).
Now lets get to the last trick and probably the trickiest for most, Kicking
More often than not, your E key has sat there lonely next to your overused WASD keys for a very long time, because whenever you have tried kicking, it has been in a fist fight. However, what if I told you, that you can kick someone using a weapon while yourself is using a weapon? This is where we come to the main use of kicking- to stun the other guy so he cant react. Lets say that you find that one guy with 21932132391 tournament wins and hes the best NA, EU, AUS, Asia, Venus, Mars or wherever he is, and he blocks every single goddang attack you throw at him from chambers to feints to anything, this is where the kicks come in. A kick can stun (and slightly damage) an enemy close to you and leave him wide open for a freebie attack to the face (often resulting in a one way ticket to visit Napoleon way down there). You are probably thinking this is the best possible thing ever because you can now beat those brick-wall-of-a-blocker people that you couldnt before. You would be wrong. Kicking is probably the most dangerous thing to do besides chambering because it does two things; 1. It leaves you open to down stabs (you cannot downblock while kicking) and 2. You cannot move for a brief second or so (this is especially dangerous in groupfighting situations). Kicking takes ALOT of practice, even more so than chambering, and you are probably going to need to try out kicking some low skilled players before you move on to kicking the more experienced BA fighters that you may find in tournaments and so on.
Forgot to add this earlier, so because someone asked (and I am bored again) I am gonna add Holding and Spinning!
So lets get to Holding
Eventually you are gonna encounter some people who do not even use their right mouse button and prefer to just chamber the living !@#$ out of you. How are you gonna get an attack past his addiction to chambering? Again, screw up the timing. People may say that chambering is just blocking with the left mouse button, but thats a lie, because the difference between the two is that blocks are able to block an attack past one millisecond. So, all you gotta do is make sure they miss that timing. You can do this with a hold. Just simply hold down your left mouse button until they try the chamber, then stab them in the face when they do. However, holding is not exclusive to people who chamber. You may encounter a speedy guy who fights like lightning. Usually, these people find the pace of the battle and tune themselves to it, to make it easier to know when to focus on attacking/defending. You can get rid of these guys with the ultimate pace changing weapon, the hold. All you gotta do is make sure that you dont get hit while holding, because this brings me to my next thing, the counter to holding. Just like feinting, holding slows down your attack, and can sometimes lose your chance to attack. Also, if the person can opt to ignore to defend a hold if he sees it coming and just go with a down attack (up attacks are way too slow to catch someone holding off guard) and quickly turn your choice to hold against you
GROUPFIGHTING TIME! Lets get to Spinning
Sometimes, you may find yourself fighting more than one guy, or a guy may get behind you and thinks you dont see him, for this, you use the spin. The spin is simple, just turn around while attacking super fast to try and turn the hunter (the guy behind you) into the prey. The best way to pull off a successful spin is to try and convince the enemy that you want to spin on that you do not see him. The best way to do this is to either use the - key (if in combat) to get a better view of everything near you or the ~ key (if not in combat) to take a quick look around you. Once you do this, there are three ways to pull off a good spin move; 1. Do not hold your attack, make a sudden turn while attacking and try to aim for the end of the attack to be in the guys face 2. Act like you are approaching a melee fight trying to aid an ally, prepare your attack, then quickly turn around on your opponent while he goes for an easy kill 3. Act like you are making the mistake of holding your attack, then quickly feint as you turn around (Not usually the best way to do it). ALWAYS SPIN ON THE GUY WHO DOESNT EXPECT IT! It is by far the easiest way to get kills if you spin on the guy who does not expect it! Also, spinning is not only a good tool against infantry, it is the best thing to use against cavalry. Rule 1 of Cavalry: Never charge from the front (unless you are a highly skilled lancer). this means that Cavalry almost exclusively go for your rear, which makes acting like you do not see them excellent bait for all forms of melee cav. The cav will see you acting oblivious, and start trying to creep up on you (you can watch them using the ~ key, or if you are pro, just listen to the sound of their hooves) and when they are almost on you, getting ready for their usual easy kill, you suddenly turn around, stab the horse (killing the horse is usually your best bet, because killing the rider is tougher than killing the horse, and if you kill the horse, the rider will be left without a getaway ride and will be momentarily defenseless on the ground) then finish off the defenseless rider.
K SO REVIEW
Feinting= Good vs. Low/Moderately skilled players
Drawback: Requires a little bit of time to do and can give up your attack.
Counter: Spam/double stab
Chambering= Good vs. All Players
Drawback: Its either you miss or you dont: if you hit the chamber, you have a high possibility to kill your opponent, if you dont, pray that you will survive.
Counter: Holds/counter-chambers
Kicks: Good vs. Better Players (Not usually worth the risk of taking down anyone but a good player that is a threat to you)
Drawback: Leaves you vulnerable for a brief second or so to downstabs or other enemies than the one you are kicking.
Counter: None really, however if you notice a guy kicking alot, you could spam down attacks, or try and keep your distance by going backwards or make the fight move sideways, not back and forth. Most of the time you are gonna have to rely on the kick missing, which they usually do unless you are hugging the man.
Holds: Good vs. Chamberholics/Speed-Demons
Drawback: Same as the chamber, you are open to spams and can possibly lose your chance to attack.
Counter: Spam/Kicks
Spinning: Good vs. Low-Medium Skilled players and Cavalry
Drawbacks: you leave your back open for a very short amount of time
Counter: Spam (People can keep going forward right into the middle of your spin, screw you up, and stab you instead of blocking)
The best attack in there is that I'm a 63e groupie but that's the most low testosterone insult out there that I'm frankly disappointed.
HAHAHAHA holy shit "low test" coming from king soy himself
I'm not here to provide a "well thought argument", I'm just here to point out how insanely smug and masturbatory you are. I skim through your posts and my brain goes numb. All your "arguments" are thick skulled and poorly thought out. I don't want to get bogged down with someone who mistakenly thinks themselves a genius. LE 6/10 POST, DISAPPOINTING, NOT A CIVIL GENTLEMAN'S ARGUMENT.
Say my name three times in the mirror and see what happens. I don't take bait, I AM INVOKED, and proceed to send your goblin ass back to the nether realm where you belong
By all means continue roleplaying like this is debate class. I await your 6 paragraph reply. Make sure to run it by your English teacher first
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q0NsZy5iUI
The best attack in there is that I'm a 63e groupie but that's the most low testosterone insult out there that I'm frankly disappointed.
HAHAHAHA holy shit "low test" coming from king soy himself
I'm not here to provide a "well thought argument", I'm just here to point out how insanely smug and masturbatory you are. I skim through your posts and my brain goes numb. All your "arguments" are thick skulled and poorly thought out. I don't want to get bogged down with someone who mistakenly thinks themselves a genius. LE 6/10 POST, DISAPPOINTING, NOT A CIVIL GENTLEMAN'S ARGUMENT.
Say my name three times in the mirror and see what happens. I don't take bait, I AM INVOKED, and proceed to send your goblin ass back to the nether realm where you belong
By all means continue roleplaying like this is debate class. I await your 6 paragraph reply. Make sure to run it by your English teacher first
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q0NsZy5iUI
(https://i.imgur.com/fK2ChFM.jpg?1)
The best attack in there is that I'm a 63e groupie but that's the most low testosterone insult out there that I'm frankly disappointed.
HAHAHAHA holy shit "low test" coming from king soy himself
I'm not here to provide a "well thought argument", I'm just here to point out how insanely smug and masturbatory you are. I skim through your posts and my brain goes numb. All your "arguments" are thick skulled and poorly thought out. I don't want to get bogged down with someone who mistakenly thinks themselves a genius. LE 6/10 POST, DISAPPOINTING, NOT A CIVIL GENTLEMAN'S ARGUMENT.
Say my name three times in the mirror and see what happens. I don't take bait, I AM INVOKED, and proceed to send your goblin ass back to the nether realm where you belong
By all means continue roleplaying like this is debate class. I await your 6 paragraph reply. Make sure to run it by your English teacher first
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q0NsZy5iUI
Grimsight's meme even had an easter egg.
63e was also in the garbage.
(https://i.imgur.com/2r1YpuP.png)
l a y e r s
#RIPWillGrimsight's meme even had an easter egg.
63e was also in the garbage.
(https://i.imgur.com/2r1YpuP.png)
l a y e r s
LOLOLOLOL
Grimsight's meme even had an easter egg.Thought I was the only one that saw that disrespect.
63e was also in the garbage.
(https://i.imgur.com/2r1YpuP.png)
l a y e r s
We need Grimsight back in the community for quality memes #RecruitGrimsight2018
Did you know that the LG is the 2nd best regiment of all time? That includes EU regiments too.The prophet has spoken
Dombot has risenDid you know that the LG is the 2nd best regiment of all time? That includes EU regiments too.The prophet has spoken
Dombot has risenDid you know that the LG is the 2nd best regiment of all time? That includes EU regiments too.The prophet has spoken
Stacked regiments don't count
First of all, Havoc you don't know shit about NW, cause you didn't put me on that list you weak ass bitch. Second of all, Matt you are still a pussy, you will always be a pussy, you will always be known as the lame who copied my whole shit talking, style, etc. Nobody wants a fake ass copy, when the real thing was 10000x better than you so just shut up and be happy that you are even mentioned by the GOAT.
Everybody in NW, knows I'm the best Duelist at 600 hours ever in NW history. That is a fact, no one can dispute it. I beat everybody there is to beat, and I was neck and neck with Godfried, Bill The Butcher, PRIME KovyJack, Prime Pinoy etc. I was a that level at 600 hours, and absolutely destroying everybody that was in my hour range all the way up to 1500 hours. When another pussy made that NW list, he didn't put me on it either, and he put "waste" lol GTFO that boi is a scrub! I destroyed Waste 7-0, 3 times in a row, and then I beat Maccle, and all these other bums, and they refused to put me as a 87 and higher even though, 600 hour Dante is at minimum a 91 just for his accomplishments and skill. So If you won't rank me up, even when I have evidence I beat all these bums, I don't care about what you think. Prime Dante at 600 hours, was the GOAT, ask all these legends they will vouch for me. Bill saw what I did to Kovyjack, and Pinoy saw what I did to everybody else. I'm also the best shit talker in NW history. Best S key in NW history, best DEFENSIVE duelist in NW history. If at 600 hours I did so much, imagine what I would do at 2000 hours? I was untouchable at 600 hours, barely got hit, and I also had elite countering skills and chambering skills that people don't master until they play 1500 hours or more. That is why I'm the GOAT, because I'm the best talent NW has ever seen. Yes Godfried, Bill, Maple, Pinoy are all legends, and I think the following 12th players: Breaches, Zorkov, Zzehth are always overlooked even though they were really really good in their primes. Those guys are all legends in my eyes, but never get the credit. Matt you are still a nobody in this game, and anybody that questions my legacy doesn't know what they are talking about. Dante is a legend, Dante is King, Dante is the GOAT, Dante is the most talented player hour for hour in NW history, and the only reason why he isn't on his list, is because you are salty, but it's okay because Matt's tears will quench your thirst!
Accomplishments of Dante:
- #1 Best Defensive fighter of NW (Won the award 3 times)
- #1 Best Duelist of NW (Won the award 5 times)
- Undisputed best Duelist of NW at 600-800 hours
- NW record for most hits landed at 43% and for most hits defended at 98% average in all the First-To-Seven duels.
- Creator of Team A1pha Male, the Greatest Training Group in NW History with notable duelists such as, Jackie Chan, Tammo, AsianP, Maple, Pinoy, Kovyjack, Pedro, and Mexicant.
- Voted as the #3 on the top 10 NW Players of all time on FSE Forums.
- Retired numerous NW players after beating them, such as Theodin and Pedro.
- Deemed by many NW Greats as the best player ever hour for hour.
- Most famous player in NW
- One of the few recruited in the 12th by Blood, and led by Tico.
Dante is the undisputed king of NW at the 600-800 hour time frame, and has beat numerous legends in the game along with outclassing almost all the 2,000 hour players. No one has come even close to Dante's skill level for his hours and he's also one of the most famous in NW.
Dante is currently retired, but is still a respected legend that still honors NW with his presence.
What other great players say about the King: *ALL REAL QUOTES
"After me, Dante is the best player to ever play the game" - Jackie Chan
"I think we all can admit that Dante was excellent as a duelist" - Nappy
"Defensive skills were insane, unbeatable when he was in his prime" - Emo Celestia
"He talked alot of shit but he was better than me when we dueled" - Dj Overjoy
"Dante is the best player at the 600-800 hour range NW has ever seen" - Pinoy
"You are the most underrated duelist that beat many top duelists" - Swift
"You are my best student and a rare talent in this game" - Maple
"I don't think many can dispute the fact that you were so good in your hour range, in fact I don't think of any players that did what you did in that period" - Godfried
"Straight up beast" - Slovahkiin
"Talks alot of shit but can back it up" - AsianP
"I hate the S key, but can't say that Dante didn't perfect it' - Pedro
"Only player to ever push me to a 7-6 in my prime and chamber me to a 3-1 early lead" - Kovyjack
"I still think I'm King but Dante is a great too" - Bill The Butcher
"You came back from being an average player that I beat early, to a whole different duelist that beat me many times" - Theodin
"Great duelist" - Mang
"Way too OP to be a 600 hour player." - Rogelio
"Honor for you to be in my regiment" - Tico (Former 12th Leader)
"Best training partner ever" - Mexicant
"I was lucky that you chose me to be in Team A1pha Male but it was a great experience" - Tammo
"A lot of people might get mad but fuck it, you're the best player in this game" - Dukers
"Not many people were willing to duel a prime Dante" - Krastinov
First of all, Havoc you don't know shit about NW, cause you didn't put me on that list you weak ass bitch. Second of all, Matt you are still a pussy, you will always be a pussy, you will always be known as the lame who copied my whole shit talking, style, etc. Nobody wants a fake ass copy, when the real thing was 10000x better than you so just shut up and be happy that you are even mentioned by the GOAT.I never retired! But welcome back lol.
Everybody in NW, knows I'm the best Duelist at 600 hours ever in NW history. That is a fact, no one can dispute it. I beat everybody there is to beat, and I was neck and neck with Godfried, Bill The Butcher, PRIME KovyJack, Prime Pinoy etc. I was a that level at 600 hours, and absolutely destroying everybody that was in my hour range all the way up to 1500 hours. When another pussy made that NW list, he didn't put me on it either, and he put "waste" lol GTFO that boi is a scrub! I destroyed Waste 7-0, 3 times in a row, and then I beat Maccle, and all these other bums, and they refused to put me as a 87 and higher even though, 600 hour Dante is at minimum a 91 just for his accomplishments and skill. So If you won't rank me up, even when I have evidence I beat all these bums, I don't care about what you think. Prime Dante at 600 hours, was the GOAT, ask all these legends they will vouch for me. Bill saw what I did to Kovyjack, and Pinoy saw what I did to everybody else. I'm also the best shit talker in NW history. Best S key in NW history, best DEFENSIVE duelist in NW history. If at 600 hours I did so much, imagine what I would do at 2000 hours? I was untouchable at 600 hours, barely got hit, and I also had elite countering skills and chambering skills that people don't master until they play 1500 hours or more. That is why I'm the GOAT, because I'm the best talent NW has ever seen. Yes Godfried, Bill, Maple, Pinoy are all legends, and I think the following 12th players: Breaches, Zorkov, Zzehth are always overlooked even though they were really really good in their primes. Those guys are all legends in my eyes, but never get the credit. Matt you are still a nobody in this game, and anybody that questions my legacy doesn't know what they are talking about. Dante is a legend, Dante is King, Dante is the GOAT, Dante is the most talented player hour for hour in NW history, and the only reason why he isn't on his list, is because you are salty, but it's okay because Matt's tears will quench your thirst!
Accomplishments of Dante:
- #1 Best Defensive fighter of NW (Won the award 3 times)
- #1 Best Duelist of NW (Won the award 5 times)
- Undisputed best Duelist of NW at 600-800 hours
- NW record for most hits landed at 43% and for most hits defended at 98% average in all the First-To-Seven duels.
- Creator of Team A1pha Male, the Greatest Training Group in NW History with notable duelists such as, Jackie Chan, Tammo, AsianP, Maple, Pinoy, Kovyjack, Pedro, and Mexicant.
- Voted as the #3 on the top 10 NW Players of all time on FSE Forums.
- Retired numerous NW players after beating them, such as Theodin and Pedro.
- Deemed by many NW Greats as the best player ever hour for hour.
- Most famous player in NW
- One of the few recruited in the 12th by Blood, and led by Tico.
Dante is the undisputed king of NW at the 600-800 hour time frame, and has beat numerous legends in the game along with outclassing almost all the 2,000 hour players. No one has come even close to Dante's skill level for his hours and he's also one of the most famous in NW.
Dante is currently retired, but is still a respected legend that still honors NW with his presence.
What other great players say about the King: *ALL REAL QUOTES
"After me, Dante is the best player to ever play the game" - Jackie Chan
"I think we all can admit that Dante was excellent as a duelist" - Nappy
"Defensive skills were insane, unbeatable when he was in his prime" - Emo Celestia
"He talked alot of shit but he was better than me when we dueled" - Dj Overjoy
"Dante is the best player at the 600-800 hour range NW has ever seen" - Pinoy
"You are the most underrated duelist that beat many top duelists" - Swift
"You are my best student and a rare talent in this game" - Maple
"I don't think many can dispute the fact that you were so good in your hour range, in fact I don't think of any players that did what you did in that period" - Godfried
"Straight up beast" - Slovahkiin
"Talks alot of shit but can back it up" - AsianP
"I hate the S key, but can't say that Dante didn't perfect it' - Pedro
"Only player to ever push me to a 7-6 in my prime and chamber me to a 3-1 early lead" - Kovyjack
"I still think I'm King but Dante is a great too" - Bill The Butcher
"You came back from being an average player that I beat early, to a whole different duelist that beat me many times" - Theodin
"Great duelist" - Mang
"Way too OP to be a 600 hour player." - Rogelio
"Honor for you to be in my regiment" - Tico (Former 12th Leader)
"Best training partner ever" - Mexicant
"I was lucky that you chose me to be in Team A1pha Male but it was a great experience" - Tammo
"A lot of people might get mad but fuck it, you're the best player in this game" - Dukers
"Not many people were willing to duel a prime Dante" - Krastinov
First of all, Havoc you don't know shit about NW, cause you didn't put me on that list you weak ass bitch. Second of all, Matt you are still a pussy, you will always be a pussy, you will always be known as the lame who copied my whole shit talking, style, etc. Nobody wants a fake ass copy, when the real thing was 10000x better than you so just shut up and be happy that you are even mentioned by the GOAT.
Everybody in NW, knows I'm the best Duelist at 600 hours ever in NW history. That is a fact, no one can dispute it. I beat everybody there is to beat, and I was neck and neck with Godfried, Bill The Butcher, PRIME KovyJack, Prime Pinoy etc. I was a that level at 600 hours, and absolutely destroying everybody that was in my hour range all the way up to 1500 hours. When another pussy made that NW list, he didn't put me on it either, and he put "waste" lol GTFO that boi is a scrub! I destroyed Waste 7-0, 3 times in a row, and then I beat Maccle, and all these other bums, and they refused to put me as a 87 and higher even though, 600 hour Dante is at minimum a 91 just for his accomplishments and skill. So If you won't rank me up, even when I have evidence I beat all these bums, I don't care about what you think. Prime Dante at 600 hours, was the GOAT, ask all these legends they will vouch for me. Bill saw what I did to Kovyjack, and Pinoy saw what I did to everybody else. I'm also the best shit talker in NW history. Best S key in NW history, best DEFENSIVE duelist in NW history. If at 600 hours I did so much, imagine what I would do at 2000 hours? I was untouchable at 600 hours, barely got hit, and I also had elite countering skills and chambering skills that people don't master until they play 1500 hours or more. That is why I'm the GOAT, because I'm the best talent NW has ever seen. Yes Godfried, Bill, Maple, Pinoy are all legends, and I think the following 12th players: Breaches, Zorkov, Zzehth are always overlooked even though they were really really good in their primes. Those guys are all legends in my eyes, but never get the credit. Matt you are still a nobody in this game, and anybody that questions my legacy doesn't know what they are talking about. Dante is a legend, Dante is King, Dante is the GOAT, Dante is the most talented player hour for hour in NW history, and the only reason why he isn't on his list, is because you are salty, but it's okay because Matt's tears will quench your thirst!
Accomplishments of Dante:
- #1 Best Defensive fighter of NW (Won the award 3 times)
- #1 Best Duelist of NW (Won the award 5 times)
- Undisputed best Duelist of NW at 600-800 hours
- NW record for most hits landed at 43% and for most hits defended at 98% average in all the First-To-Seven duels.
- Creator of Team A1pha Male, the Greatest Training Group in NW History with notable duelists such as, Jackie Chan, Tammo, AsianP, Maple, Pinoy, Kovyjack, Pedro, and Mexicant.
- Voted as the #3 on the top 10 NW Players of all time on FSE Forums.
- Retired numerous NW players after beating them, such as Theodin and Pedro.
- Deemed by many NW Greats as the best player ever hour for hour.
- Most famous player in NW
- One of the few recruited in the 12th by Blood, and led by Tico.
Dante is the undisputed king of NW at the 600-800 hour time frame, and has beat numerous legends in the game along with outclassing almost all the 2,000 hour players. No one has come even close to Dante's skill level for his hours and he's also one of the most famous in NW.
Dante is currently retired, but is still a respected legend that still honors NW with his presence.
What other great players say about the King: *ALL REAL QUOTES
"After me, Dante is the best player to ever play the game" - Jackie Chan
"I think we all can admit that Dante was excellent as a duelist" - Nappy
"Defensive skills were insane, unbeatable when he was in his prime" - Emo Celestia
"He talked alot of shit but he was better than me when we dueled" - Dj Overjoy
"Dante is the best player at the 600-800 hour range NW has ever seen" - Pinoy
"You are the most underrated duelist that beat many top duelists" - Swift
"You are my best student and a rare talent in this game" - Maple
"I don't think many can dispute the fact that you were so good in your hour range, in fact I don't think of any players that did what you did in that period" - Godfried
"Straight up beast" - Slovahkiin
"Talks alot of shit but can back it up" - AsianP
"I hate the S key, but can't say that Dante didn't perfect it' - Pedro
"Only player to ever push me to a 7-6 in my prime and chamber me to a 3-1 early lead" - Kovyjack
"I still think I'm King but Dante is a great too" - Bill The Butcher
"You came back from being an average player that I beat early, to a whole different duelist that beat me many times" - Theodin
"Great duelist" - Mang
"Way too OP to be a 600 hour player." - Rogelio
"Honor for you to be in my regiment" - Tico (Former 12th Leader)
"Best training partner ever" - Mexicant
"I was lucky that you chose me to be in Team A1pha Male but it was a great experience" - Tammo
"A lot of people might get mad but fuck it, you're the best player in this game" - Dukers
"Not many people were willing to duel a prime Dante" - Krastinov
the true king has returnedSpoilerFirst of all, Havoc you don't know shit about NW, cause you didn't put me on that list you weak ass bitch. Second of all, Matt you are still a pussy, you will always be a pussy, you will always be known as the lame who copied my whole shit talking, style, etc. Nobody wants a fake ass copy, when the real thing was 10000x better than you so just shut up and be happy that you are even mentioned by the GOAT.
Everybody in NW, knows I'm the best Duelist at 600 hours ever in NW history. That is a fact, no one can dispute it. I beat everybody there is to beat, and I was neck and neck with Godfried, Bill The Butcher, PRIME KovyJack, Prime Pinoy etc. I was a that level at 600 hours, and absolutely destroying everybody that was in my hour range all the way up to 1500 hours. When another pussy made that NW list, he didn't put me on it either, and he put "waste" lol GTFO that boi is a scrub! I destroyed Waste 7-0, 3 times in a row, and then I beat Maccle, and all these other bums, and they refused to put me as a 87 and higher even though, 600 hour Dante is at minimum a 91 just for his accomplishments and skill. So If you won't rank me up, even when I have evidence I beat all these bums, I don't care about what you think. Prime Dante at 600 hours, was the GOAT, ask all these legends they will vouch for me. Bill saw what I did to Kovyjack, and Pinoy saw what I did to everybody else. I'm also the best shit talker in NW history. Best S key in NW history, best DEFENSIVE duelist in NW history. If at 600 hours I did so much, imagine what I would do at 2000 hours? I was untouchable at 600 hours, barely got hit, and I also had elite countering skills and chambering skills that people don't master until they play 1500 hours or more. That is why I'm the GOAT, because I'm the best talent NW has ever seen. Yes Godfried, Bill, Maple, Pinoy are all legends, and I think the following 12th players: Breaches, Zorkov, Zzehth are always overlooked even though they were really really good in their primes. Those guys are all legends in my eyes, but never get the credit. Matt you are still a nobody in this game, and anybody that questions my legacy doesn't know what they are talking about. Dante is a legend, Dante is King, Dante is the GOAT, Dante is the most talented player hour for hour in NW history, and the only reason why he isn't on his list, is because you are salty, but it's okay because Matt's tears will quench your thirst!
Accomplishments of Dante:
- #1 Best Defensive fighter of NW (Won the award 3 times)
- #1 Best Duelist of NW (Won the award 5 times)
- Undisputed best Duelist of NW at 600-800 hours
- NW record for most hits landed at 43% and for most hits defended at 98% average in all the First-To-Seven duels.
- Creator of Team A1pha Male, the Greatest Training Group in NW History with notable duelists such as, Jackie Chan, Tammo, AsianP, Maple, Pinoy, Kovyjack, Pedro, and Mexicant.
- Voted as the #3 on the top 10 NW Players of all time on FSE Forums.
- Retired numerous NW players after beating them, such as Theodin and Pedro.
- Deemed by many NW Greats as the best player ever hour for hour.
- Most famous player in NW
- One of the few recruited in the 12th by Blood, and led by Tico.
Dante is the undisputed king of NW at the 600-800 hour time frame, and has beat numerous legends in the game along with outclassing almost all the 2,000 hour players. No one has come even close to Dante's skill level for his hours and he's also one of the most famous in NW.
Dante is currently retired, but is still a respected legend that still honors NW with his presence.
What other great players say about the King: *ALL REAL QUOTES
"After me, Dante is the best player to ever play the game" - Jackie Chan
"I think we all can admit that Dante was excellent as a duelist" - Nappy
"Defensive skills were insane, unbeatable when he was in his prime" - Emo Celestia
"He talked alot of shit but he was better than me when we dueled" - Dj Overjoy
"Dante is the best player at the 600-800 hour range NW has ever seen" - Pinoy
"You are the most underrated duelist that beat many top duelists" - Swift
"You are my best student and a rare talent in this game" - Maple
"I don't think many can dispute the fact that you were so good in your hour range, in fact I don't think of any players that did what you did in that period" - Godfried
"Straight up beast" - Slovahkiin
"Talks alot of shit but can back it up" - AsianP
"I hate the S key, but can't say that Dante didn't perfect it' - Pedro
"Only player to ever push me to a 7-6 in my prime and chamber me to a 3-1 early lead" - Kovyjack
"I still think I'm King but Dante is a great too" - Bill The Butcher
"You came back from being an average player that I beat early, to a whole different duelist that beat me many times" - Theodin
"Great duelist" - Mang
"Way too OP to be a 600 hour player." - Rogelio
"Honor for you to be in my regiment" - Tico (Former 12th Leader)
"Best training partner ever" - Mexicant
"I was lucky that you chose me to be in Team A1pha Male but it was a great experience" - Tammo
"A lot of people might get mad but fuck it, you're the best player in this game" - Dukers
"Not many people were willing to duel a prime Dante" - Krastinov[close]
First of all, Havoc you don't know shit about NW, cause you didn't put me on that list you weak ass bitch. Second of all, Matt you are still a pussy, you will always be a pussy, you will always be known as the lame who copied my whole shit talking, style, etc. Nobody wants a fake ass copy, when the real thing was 10000x better than you so just shut up and be happy that you are even mentioned by the GOAT.
Everybody in NW, knows I'm the best Duelist at 600 hours ever in NW history. That is a fact, no one can dispute it. I beat everybody there is to beat, and I was neck and neck with Godfried, Bill The Butcher, PRIME KovyJack, Prime Pinoy etc. I was a that level at 600 hours, and absolutely destroying everybody that was in my hour range all the way up to 1500 hours. When another pussy made that NW list, he didn't put me on it either, and he put "waste" lol GTFO that boi is a scrub! I destroyed Waste 7-0, 3 times in a row, and then I beat Maccle, and all these other bums, and they refused to put me as a 87 and higher even though, 600 hour Dante is at minimum a 91 just for his accomplishments and skill. So If you won't rank me up, even when I have evidence I beat all these bums, I don't care about what you think. Prime Dante at 600 hours, was the GOAT, ask all these legends they will vouch for me. Bill saw what I did to Kovyjack, and Pinoy saw what I did to everybody else. I'm also the best shit talker in NW history. Best S key in NW history, best DEFENSIVE duelist in NW history. If at 600 hours I did so much, imagine what I would do at 2000 hours? I was untouchable at 600 hours, barely got hit, and I also had elite countering skills and chambering skills that people don't master until they play 1500 hours or more. That is why I'm the GOAT, because I'm the best talent NW has ever seen. Yes Godfried, Bill, Maple, Pinoy are all legends, and I think the following 12th players: Breaches, Zorkov, Zzehth are always overlooked even though they were really really good in their primes. Those guys are all legends in my eyes, but never get the credit. Matt you are still a nobody in this game, and anybody that questions my legacy doesn't know what they are talking about. Dante is a legend, Dante is King, Dante is the GOAT, Dante is the most talented player hour for hour in NW history, and the only reason why he isn't on his list, is because you are salty, but it's okay because Matt's tears will quench your thirst!
Accomplishments of Dante:
- #1 Best Defensive fighter of NW (Won the award 3 times)
- #1 Best Duelist of NW (Won the award 5 times)
- Undisputed best Duelist of NW at 600-800 hours
- NW record for most hits landed at 43% and for most hits defended at 98% average in all the First-To-Seven duels.
- Creator of Team A1pha Male, the Greatest Training Group in NW History with notable duelists such as, Jackie Chan, Tammo, AsianP, Maple, Pinoy, Kovyjack, Pedro, and Mexicant.
- Voted as the #3 on the top 10 NW Players of all time on FSE Forums.
- Retired numerous NW players after beating them, such as Theodin and Pedro.
- Deemed by many NW Greats as the best player ever hour for hour.
- Most famous player in NW
- One of the few recruited in the 12th by Blood, and led by Tico.
Dante is the undisputed king of NW at the 600-800 hour time frame, and has beat numerous legends in the game along with outclassing almost all the 2,000 hour players. No one has come even close to Dante's skill level for his hours and he's also one of the most famous in NW.
Dante is currently retired, but is still a respected legend that still honors NW with his presence.
What other great players say about the King: *ALL REAL QUOTES
"After me, Dante is the best player to ever play the game" - Jackie Chan
"I think we all can admit that Dante was excellent as a duelist" - Nappy
"Defensive skills were insane, unbeatable when he was in his prime" - Emo Celestia
"He talked alot of shit but he was better than me when we dueled" - Dj Overjoy
"Dante is the best player at the 600-800 hour range NW has ever seen" - Pinoy
"You are the most underrated duelist that beat many top duelists" - Swift
"You are my best student and a rare talent in this game" - Maple
"I don't think many can dispute the fact that you were so good in your hour range, in fact I don't think of any players that did what you did in that period" - Godfried
"Straight up beast" - Slovahkiin
"Talks alot of shit but can back it up" - AsianP
"I hate the S key, but can't say that Dante didn't perfect it' - Pedro
"Only player to ever push me to a 7-6 in my prime and chamber me to a 3-1 early lead" - Kovyjack
"I still think I'm King but Dante is a great too" - Bill The Butcher
"You came back from being an average player that I beat early, to a whole different duelist that beat me many times" - Theodin
"Great duelist" - Mang
"Way too OP to be a 600 hour player." - Rogelio
"Honor for you to be in my regiment" - Tico (Former 12th Leader)
"Best training partner ever" - Mexicant
"I was lucky that you chose me to be in Team A1pha Male but it was a great experience" - Tammo
"A lot of people might get mad but fuck it, you're the best player in this game" - Dukers
"Not many people were willing to duel a prime Dante" - Krastinov
the true king has returnedSpoilerFirst of all, Havoc you don't know shit about NW, cause you didn't put me on that list you weak ass bitch. Second of all, Matt you are still a pussy, you will always be a pussy, you will always be known as the lame who copied my whole shit talking, style, etc. Nobody wants a fake ass copy, when the real thing was 10000x better than you so just shut up and be happy that you are even mentioned by the GOAT.
Everybody in NW, knows I'm the best Duelist at 600 hours ever in NW history. That is a fact, no one can dispute it. I beat everybody there is to beat, and I was neck and neck with Godfried, Bill The Butcher, PRIME KovyJack, Prime Pinoy etc. I was a that level at 600 hours, and absolutely destroying everybody that was in my hour range all the way up to 1500 hours. When another pussy made that NW list, he didn't put me on it either, and he put "waste" lol GTFO that boi is a scrub! I destroyed Waste 7-0, 3 times in a row, and then I beat Maccle, and all these other bums, and they refused to put me as a 87 and higher even though, 600 hour Dante is at minimum a 91 just for his accomplishments and skill. So If you won't rank me up, even when I have evidence I beat all these bums, I don't care about what you think. Prime Dante at 600 hours, was the GOAT, ask all these legends they will vouch for me. Bill saw what I did to Kovyjack, and Pinoy saw what I did to everybody else. I'm also the best shit talker in NW history. Best S key in NW history, best DEFENSIVE duelist in NW history. If at 600 hours I did so much, imagine what I would do at 2000 hours? I was untouchable at 600 hours, barely got hit, and I also had elite countering skills and chambering skills that people don't master until they play 1500 hours or more. That is why I'm the GOAT, because I'm the best talent NW has ever seen. Yes Godfried, Bill, Maple, Pinoy are all legends, and I think the following 12th players: Breaches, Zorkov, Zzehth are always overlooked even though they were really really good in their primes. Those guys are all legends in my eyes, but never get the credit. Matt you are still a nobody in this game, and anybody that questions my legacy doesn't know what they are talking about. Dante is a legend, Dante is King, Dante is the GOAT, Dante is the most talented player hour for hour in NW history, and the only reason why he isn't on his list, is because you are salty, but it's okay because Matt's tears will quench your thirst!
Accomplishments of Dante:
- #1 Best Defensive fighter of NW (Won the award 3 times)
- #1 Best Duelist of NW (Won the award 5 times)
- Undisputed best Duelist of NW at 600-800 hours
- NW record for most hits landed at 43% and for most hits defended at 98% average in all the First-To-Seven duels.
- Creator of Team A1pha Male, the Greatest Training Group in NW History with notable duelists such as, Jackie Chan, Tammo, AsianP, Maple, Pinoy, Kovyjack, Pedro, and Mexicant.
- Voted as the #3 on the top 10 NW Players of all time on FSE Forums.
- Retired numerous NW players after beating them, such as Theodin and Pedro.
- Deemed by many NW Greats as the best player ever hour for hour.
- Most famous player in NW
- One of the few recruited in the 12th by Blood, and led by Tico.
Dante is the undisputed king of NW at the 600-800 hour time frame, and has beat numerous legends in the game along with outclassing almost all the 2,000 hour players. No one has come even close to Dante's skill level for his hours and he's also one of the most famous in NW.
Dante is currently retired, but is still a respected legend that still honors NW with his presence.
What other great players say about the King: *ALL REAL QUOTES
"After me, Dante is the best player to ever play the game" - Jackie Chan
"I think we all can admit that Dante was excellent as a duelist" - Nappy
"Defensive skills were insane, unbeatable when he was in his prime" - Emo Celestia
"He talked alot of shit but he was better than me when we dueled" - Dj Overjoy
"Dante is the best player at the 600-800 hour range NW has ever seen" - Pinoy
"You are the most underrated duelist that beat many top duelists" - Swift
"You are my best student and a rare talent in this game" - Maple
"I don't think many can dispute the fact that you were so good in your hour range, in fact I don't think of any players that did what you did in that period" - Godfried
"Straight up beast" - Slovahkiin
"Talks alot of shit but can back it up" - AsianP
"I hate the S key, but can't say that Dante didn't perfect it' - Pedro
"Only player to ever push me to a 7-6 in my prime and chamber me to a 3-1 early lead" - Kovyjack
"I still think I'm King but Dante is a great too" - Bill The Butcher
"You came back from being an average player that I beat early, to a whole different duelist that beat me many times" - Theodin
"Great duelist" - Mang
"Way too OP to be a 600 hour player." - Rogelio
"Honor for you to be in my regiment" - Tico (Former 12th Leader)
"Best training partner ever" - Mexicant
"I was lucky that you chose me to be in Team A1pha Male but it was a great experience" - Tammo
"A lot of people might get mad but fuck it, you're the best player in this game" - Dukers
"Not many people were willing to duel a prime Dante" - Krastinov[close]
!
Who TF is this chump? Really who is heYour brother.
Who TF is this chump? Really who is heYour brother.
Who TF is this chump? Really who is he
In all seriousness, fix Godfried's dog-shit current melee list. I can't take any of this seriously with that list still in its current state
Update list when¿¿
godfreid never even finished the current list one lol. he just did a few arrangements at the top. he will probably never update it.
Airraider and Dante_Fuast all time melee list.
For doing what?
Can't speak about Airraider during his 1stFKI days, but in the 15e he was their best player, 33e their best, IV Korps competitive line our best player and when he joined the 58e for TNWL he was our best player. He defeated everyone in Ft7's during the 58e and had a winning record against AsianP who at this time was in his prime in melee I believe. I believe AsianP got one or two win vs him eventually though.
He falls under the Puppytron category though. He never really took the game serious from when I met him. But looking at the all time list, I would say he is better than everyone 88 down and possibly the 89 range. I am bias of course.
As for Dante_Faust, I just have a lot of respect for him. First good infantry player I ever met. He probably isn't a all time-great, but to me he is.
Apoc remember our deal *cough cough* I also won a 2v2 tourny tonight cough*Lets play some theHunter
Apoc remember our deal *cough cough* I also won a 2v2 tourny tonight cough*
Apoc remember our deal *cough cough* I also won a 2v2 tourny tonight cough*
Yea cuz yoshie can't 1v1
i was lagging that ft7 he beat me but we ft7d after and I beat him 7-2 when my ping was stableAirraider and Dante_Fuast all time melee list.
For doing what?
Can't speak about Airraider during his 1stFKI days, but in the 15e he was their best player, 33e their best, IV Korps competitive line our best player and when he joined the 58e for TNWL he was our best player. He defeated everyone in Ft7's during the 58e and had a winning record against AsianP who at this time was in his prime in melee I believe. I believe AsianP got one or two win vs him eventually though.
He falls under the Puppytron category though. He never really took the game serious from when I met him. But looking at the all time list, I would say he is better than everyone 88 down and possibly the 89 range. I am bias of course.
As for Dante_Faust, I just have a lot of respect for him. First good infantry player I ever met. He probably isn't a all time-great, but to me he is.
lol Airraidre was not the best in the 58e I 7-2'd him twice in a row and several others beat him even Voodoo at some point
I have been hiding him from Matthew for too long.Who TF is this chump? Really who is heYour brother.
This actually made me lol.Who TF is this chump? Really who is he
(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/300x300/50883474/let-them-fight.jpg)
Godfreid update ploxI think there's already a current list that gets updated.
Godfreid update plox
Godfreid update plox
I'll do an update probably for next Saturday
nobody ever beat prime LGF A C T S
Oh also I'm removing Grimsight from the leaders list and the credit for this list in generalThat leaders list was me and nappy's so give me credit thanks!SpoilerBanter seller, I'm telling you, I am going in to battle, and I want only your strongest bants[close]
Russian and I are a package deal
Nobody ever beat prime 18th
Nobody is saying they could beat the 12th though.
This man speaks the truth. Smacking 3e 15-7 & 7-3 ez pz. #LG4HoFNobody ever beat prime 18th
Nobody is saying they could beat the 12th though.
yea but that was before everyone in the game was proficient. It’s like comparing mj’s bulls dynasty to golden state’s current super team, warriors would win by a landslide. The 3e refused to play us we were so good, they even took suns and it still wasn’t close.
easily the greatest of all time, reform nr8!
coming from a 3eVolt CplFoP, LG should be added into the hall of famewerent you in the lg at some point
I don't actually think Cade won that many tournaments. However for a good amount of time he was the player to beat.coming from a 3eVolt CplFoP, LG should be added into the hall of famewerent you in the lg at some point
Also Cade may have accomplished more than KOSJ in tournaments but I don't believe hes ever been as good a player across the board than KOSJ.
When will 1stRddt get a spot in the regimental hall of fame?more importantly, 1stCraigslist
This man speaks the truth. Smacking 3e 15-7 & 7-3 ez pz. #LG4HoFNobody ever beat prime 18th
Nobody is saying they could beat the 12th though.
yea but that was before everyone in the game was proficient. It’s like comparing mj’s bulls dynasty to golden state’s current super team, warriors would win by a landslide. The 3e refused to play us we were so good, they even took suns and it still wasn’t close.
easily the greatest of all time, reform nr8!
I love Cade, me and him practiced together for over two years, but he was never as good of a groupfighter as KOSJ. He was, however, briefly NA's best duelist.coming from a 3eVolt CplFoP, LG should be added into the hall of famewerent you in the lg at some point
Also Cade may have accomplished more than KOSJ in tournaments but I don't believe hes ever been as good a player across the board than KOSJ.
I love Cade, me and him practiced together for over two years, but he was never as good of a groupfighter as KOSJ. He was, however, briefly NA's best duelist.coming from a 3eVolt CplFoP, LG should be added into the hall of famewerent you in the lg at some point
Also Cade may have accomplished more than KOSJ in tournaments but I don't believe hes ever been as good a player across the board than KOSJ.
This is some gnarly stuff.
Yeah he was a better duelist definitely but just not as consistent imo.I love Cade, me and him practiced together for over two years, but he was never as good of a groupfighter as KOSJ. He was, however, briefly NA's best duelist.coming from a 3eVolt CplFoP, LG should be added into the hall of famewerent you in the lg at some point
Also Cade may have accomplished more than KOSJ in tournaments but I don't believe hes ever been as good a player across the board than KOSJ.
Yeah he was a better duelist definitely but just not as consistent imo.I love Cade, me and him practiced together for over two years, but he was never as good of a groupfighter as KOSJ. He was, however, briefly NA's best duelist.coming from a 3eVolt CplFoP, LG should be added into the hall of famewerent you in the lg at some point
Also Cade may have accomplished more than KOSJ in tournaments but I don't believe hes ever been as good a player across the board than KOSJ.
I love Cade, me and him practiced together for over two years, but he was never as good of a groupfighter as KOSJ. He was, however, briefly NA's best duelist.coming from a 3eVolt CplFoP, LG should be added into the hall of famewerent you in the lg at some point
Also Cade may have accomplished more than KOSJ in tournaments but I don't believe hes ever been as good a player across the board than KOSJ.
Cade was a really good duelist but,
When ???
Duels he was pretty consistent. Groupfighting he was incredibly inconsistentSpoilerYeah he was a better duelist definitely but just not as consistent imo.I love Cade, me and him practiced together for over two years, but he was never as good of a groupfighter as KOSJ. He was, however, briefly NA's best duelist.coming from a 3eVolt CplFoP, LG should be added into the hall of famewerent you in the lg at some point
Also Cade may have accomplished more than KOSJ in tournaments but I don't believe hes ever been as good a player across the board than KOSJ.[close]For like a month and a half, back in early 2017 I think?SpoilerI love Cade, me and him practiced together for over two years, but he was never as good of a groupfighter as KOSJ. He was, however, briefly NA's best duelist.coming from a 3eVolt CplFoP, LG should be added into the hall of famewerent you in the lg at some point
Also Cade may have accomplished more than KOSJ in tournaments but I don't believe hes ever been as good a player across the board than KOSJ.
Cade was a really good duelist but,
When ???[close]
Yeah but you're badatleast I can kinda stab
For some reason I was matched up with case in the first round of a lot of duel tournaments. He has 5-0ed me like everytimeare we thinking of the same cade what the fuck, i could beat that bum ass with 500 hours in nw
For some reason I was matched up with case in the first round of a lot of duel tournaments. He has 5-0ed me like everytimeare we thinking of the same cade what the fuck, i could beat that bum ass with 500 hours in nw
(https://i.gyazo.com/5981377a6635d82b85b3ef07b2314edb.jpg)For some reason I was matched up with case in the first round of a lot of duel tournaments. He has 5-0ed me like everytimeare we thinking of the same cade what the fuck, i could beat that bum ass with 500 hours in nw
I'm finding this difficult to believe.
What was yours ft7 record with him ???
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/PersonalCrispArrowworm-max-1mb.gif)For some reason I was matched up with case in the first round of a lot of duel tournaments. He has 5-0ed me like everytimeare we thinking of the same cade what the fuck, i could beat that bum ass with 500 hours in nw
shouldnt you be in summer school little boy?(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/PersonalCrispArrowworm-max-1mb.gif)For some reason I was matched up with case in the first round of a lot of duel tournaments. He has 5-0ed me like everytimeare we thinking of the same cade what the fuck, i could beat that bum ass with 500 hours in nw
hehe 7-0shouldnt you be in summer school little boy?(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/PersonalCrispArrowworm-max-1mb.gif)For some reason I was matched up with case in the first round of a lot of duel tournaments. He has 5-0ed me like everytimeare we thinking of the same cade what the fuck, i could beat that bum ass with 500 hours in nw
lmao hey guys its me purplish im here with hackin 10 year old comin at you live. Sanders what do you have to say about your boy nickcole spillin the beans about ur cheating habits?hehe 7-0shouldnt you be in summer school little boy?(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/PersonalCrispArrowworm-max-1mb.gif)For some reason I was matched up with case in the first round of a lot of duel tournaments. He has 5-0ed me like everytimeare we thinking of the same cade what the fuck, i could beat that bum ass with 500 hours in nw
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9f/83/64/9f8364e24b227c753846720a930b1e52.png)
I meanAt the time you said he was! No citation for this
I don't think Cade was ever the 'best' duelist in NA. He was up there in the running for a while though. Theodin is right about his groupfighting though.
But, I think all in all an 86 suits him well.
Guys, this thread is for high-tier shit-talking only. Low-Tier shit talk is for Purplish's thread, not this one. I accept only the greatest of bants.Blasted! I'm deeply embarrassed for the low quality banter Meme Champion AP0C
This man speaks the truth. Smacking 3e 15-7 & 7-3 ez pz. #LG4HoFNobody ever beat prime 18th
Nobody is saying they could beat the 12th though.
yea but that was before everyone in the game was proficient. It’s like comparing mj’s bulls dynasty to golden state’s current super team, warriors would win by a landslide. The 3e refused to play us we were so good, they even took suns and it still wasn’t close.
easily the greatest of all time, reform nr8!
3eVolt's total record (pre and post-merge) vs LG was 3-1-1 for 1v1's, and 10-0-7 for Groupfights, being 13-1-8 overall.
Post-Merge, 3eVolt was 0-0-1 vs LG for 1v1's and 3-0-3 for Groupfights.
As a 63e member for life, I think LG should be in the HOF. 63e couldn't touch em in groupfights. Our record vs them was probably like 1-10. I think we lost a couple 1v1's to them too. Oh and as the most loyal member of any regiment ever, I think I should get an 80 for the all time list. Heil Karth.
godfreid can bring up all the numbers from his diary that he wants but everyone remembers the two matches with full lineups. That 45 v 45 gf or whatever and napl, LG won both.
Undisputed GOAT
godfreid can bring up all the numbers from his diary that he wants but everyone remembers the two matches with full lineups. That 45 v 45 gf or whatever and napl, LG won both.we went like 20-0 right lolololol good times
Undisputed GOAT
After RGL we lost a good amount of solid players so we had to get people somehow!! LG was better than 3eVolt when the merge happened so that is why we should be on there because 3e had no mach when we were at our height!godfreid can bring up all the numbers from his diary that he wants but everyone remembers the two matches with full lineups. That 45 v 45 gf or whatever and napl, LG won both.
Undisputed GOAT
This has to be a joke.
Any time 3eVolt brought more than 20 people, it was all old 3eVolt players who hadn't touched the game in months. There's a reason it only happened twice.
3eVolt 7-3'd LG week 1 of NAPL, it took the 1st and 2nd places of NANWL S7 merging together to return the favor.
Except even after your merge, 3eVolt and LG continued to trade Groupfight wins and losses, ending at 3 wins and losses each by the end of both regiments.After RGL we lost a good amount of solid players so we had to get people somehow!! LG was better than 3eVolt when the merge happened so that is why we should be on there because 3e had no mach when we were at our height!godfreid can bring up all the numbers from his diary that he wants but everyone remembers the two matches with full lineups. That 45 v 45 gf or whatever and napl, LG won both.
Undisputed GOAT
This has to be a joke.
Any time 3eVolt brought more than 20 people, it was all old 3eVolt players who hadn't touched the game in months. There's a reason it only happened twice.
3eVolt 7-3'd LG week 1 of NAPL, it took the 1st and 2nd places of NANWL S7 merging together to return the favor.
Except even after your merge, 3eVolt and LG continued to trade Groupfight wins and losses, ending at 3 wins and losses each by the end of both regiments.After RGL we lost a good amount of solid players so we had to get people somehow!! LG was better than 3eVolt when the merge happened so that is why we should be on there because 3e had no mach when we were at our height!godfreid can bring up all the numbers from his diary that he wants but everyone remembers the two matches with full lineups. That 45 v 45 gf or whatever and napl, LG won both.
Undisputed GOAT
This has to be a joke.
Any time 3eVolt brought more than 20 people, it was all old 3eVolt players who hadn't touched the game in months. There's a reason it only happened twice.
3eVolt 7-3'd LG week 1 of NAPL, it took the 1st and 2nd places of NANWL S7 merging together to return the favor.
Aside from it being wrong, that's also a terrible reason to add a regiment to the hall of fame.
I feel personally attacked.Big Balls Saltyy
I feel personally attacked.Big Balls Saltyy
Okay record wise y'all win but I am talking about the peak of the LG which was when we won the 38v38 gf and when we did the NAPL match. We beat y'all both times easily but the reason LG should be in it was for how long they were dominate. From late 2016 to 2017 and early 18 LG was either best NA or 2nd best NA so that is why they should be in the HoF. You can't just blame a merge for not putting LG in the HoF. LG meets the HoF criteria for how long it lasted, how long it was at the top of NA or 2nd in NA, and how good LG was at their peak compared to the top regiment at the time. Also count the amount of melee tournaments LG dominated in 2017 aswell (I know there wasn't that many maybe 5 or 6) but still we smoked every group out there (until SoF team beat a rusty LG team in the 4v4 :D).SpoilerExcept even after your merge, 3eVolt and LG continued to trade Groupfight wins and losses, ending at 3 wins and losses each by the end of both regiments.After RGL we lost a good amount of solid players so we had to get people somehow!! LG was better than 3eVolt when the merge happened so that is why we should be on there because 3e had no mach when we were at our height!godfreid can bring up all the numbers from his diary that he wants but everyone remembers the two matches with full lineups. That 45 v 45 gf or whatever and napl, LG won both.
Undisputed GOAT
This has to be a joke.
Any time 3eVolt brought more than 20 people, it was all old 3eVolt players who hadn't touched the game in months. There's a reason it only happened twice.
3eVolt 7-3'd LG week 1 of NAPL, it took the 1st and 2nd places of NANWL S7 merging together to return the favor.
Aside from it being wrong, that's also a terrible reason to add a regiment to the hall of fame.[close]
Godfreid out here putting up LEGENDARY kds...
That’s what I’m saying man. The past 5 years of playing NW I would have a constant 50 ping on Houston servers and a constant 33 ping on Chicago servers. Now (if I’m lucky) I get 50 on Chicago and 75 on Houston. Usually it spikes to 400 every two minutes though. The pains if living in the country sideGodfreid out here putting up LEGENDARY kds...
My KD's will get better when my internet is fixed, don't worry.
But not much I can do when it goes up and down from 28 to 50 every couple seconds.
Okay record wise y'all win but I am talking about the peak of the LG which was when we won the 38v38 gf and when we did the NAPL match. We beat y'all both times easily but the reason LG should be in it was for how long they were dominate. From late 2016 to 2017 and early 18 LG was either best NA or 2nd best NA so that is why they should be in the HoF. You can't just blame a merge for not putting LG in the HoF. LG meets the HoF criteria for how long it lasted, how long it was at the top of NA or 2nd in NA, and how good LG was at their peak compared to the top regiment at the time. Also count the amount of melee tournaments LG dominated in 2017 aswell (I know there wasn't that many maybe 5 or 6) but still we smoked every group out there (until SoF team beat a rusty LG team in the 4v4 :D).SpoilerExcept even after your merge, 3eVolt and LG continued to trade Groupfight wins and losses, ending at 3 wins and losses each by the end of both regiments.After RGL we lost a good amount of solid players so we had to get people somehow!! LG was better than 3eVolt when the merge happened so that is why we should be on there because 3e had no mach when we were at our height!godfreid can bring up all the numbers from his diary that he wants but everyone remembers the two matches with full lineups. That 45 v 45 gf or whatever and napl, LG won both.
Undisputed GOAT
This has to be a joke.
Any time 3eVolt brought more than 20 people, it was all old 3eVolt players who hadn't touched the game in months. There's a reason it only happened twice.
3eVolt 7-3'd LG week 1 of NAPL, it took the 1st and 2nd places of NANWL S7 merging together to return the favor.
Aside from it being wrong, that's also a terrible reason to add a regiment to the hall of fame.[close]
Add pre-45e LG to the hall of fame because of our roots, core and success. If we were as good as a Hall of Fame regiment for that long, what does that say about the LG
If the argument against LG in the HoF is that we weren't better than another HoF regiment, or at least as good but not better, than to not put LG in the HoF is a bit strange.
Then what is? The criteria seems to be record, base and longevity, and both your 3e and the LG checked those boxes off in the last two years.If the argument against LG in the HoF is that we weren't better than another HoF regiment, or at least as good but not better, than to not put LG in the HoF is a bit strange.
That's not the argument tho
Aight update time. Lets move some things around again.
My planned changes are:
-Main thing is Ghost goes back to the 90s, probably back to a 91 or 92. I actually screwed up there. That's on me.
-Lithios goes down to 90. Slightly controversial, but he wasn't around for long, and he honestly didn't impress me that much (mainly because he never really FT7d me). Plus, he relied pretty heavily on the double x which, is no longer in the game. Still a good player tho.
-Pointblank gets dropped out of the 90s, probably to 89. Similar reasoning to Lithios, he wasn't around for too long nor did he accomplish very much.
-Havoc goes up another point. Might even go to 93.
-Maple I am considering whether he goes to 92 or 91 after some conversations with others.
-Godfreid goes to 91 to be more in line with changes elsewhere because....
-Basically everyone 93 or above who I have not specifically mentioned gets moved down a point.
-Gonna remove Havoc's list off of my OP as I feel I have had a productive chat with him (which led to alot of the changes)/will probably have more productive chat time later with him.
Below 90 changes:
-Krastinov, Fireboy and KosJ grab a 85, Sanders gets an 83, Cade gets an 86, Theodin gets an 84, Raf gets an 85, Waste gets an 82,
Below around 90 will remain very much so a WIP so bear with me, and if you have any changes you think are unwarranted or ARE warranted, let me know. I am actually willing to talk (as long as its at a convenient time for me, don't expect me to be willing to talk 24/7. Also, if you sperg out about a change that I didn't make that you keep repeating the same reasons for why I should change it, odds are you won't change my mind).
Side note: Verdict as of right now is LG doesn't get Hall of Fame. I did see alot of support on the forums, but it was mainly coming from LG members themselves which, I had to take with a grain of salt. I still mulled it around a little, but I have seen some compelling arguments from elsewhere (that doesn't have to do with the drama) against. So, unless some sweaties really try pushing for it again, I will consider the matter closed for now. However, I would like to open up discussion as to if and where RussianFury (just Russian alone) should be added to the leader list, because I do feel that could be warranted.
Thats about it for now.
Aight update time. Lets move some things around again.
My planned changes are:
-Main thing is Ghost goes back to the 90s, probably back to a 91 or 92. I actually screwed up there. That's on me.
-Lithios goes down to 90. Slightly controversial, but he wasn't around for long, and he honestly didn't impress me that much (mainly because he never really FT7d me). Plus, he relied pretty heavily on the double x which, is no longer in the game. Still a good player tho.
-Pointblank gets dropped out of the 90s, probably to 89. Similar reasoning to Lithios, he wasn't around for too long nor did he accomplish very much.
-Havoc goes up another point. Might even go to 93.
-Maple I am considering whether he goes to 92 or 91 after some conversations with others.
-Godfreid goes to 91 to be more in line with changes elsewhere because....
-Basically everyone 93 or above who I have not specifically mentioned gets moved down a point.
-Gonna remove Havoc's list off of my OP as I feel I have had a productive chat with him (which led to alot of the changes)/will probably have more productive chat time later with him.
Below 90 changes:
-Krastinov, Fireboy and KosJ grab a 85, Sanders gets an 83, Cade gets an 86, Theodin gets an 84, Raf gets an 85, Waste gets an 82,
Below around 90 will remain very much so a WIP so bear with me, and if you have any changes you think are unwarranted or ARE warranted, let me know. I am actually willing to talk (as long as its at a convenient time for me, don't expect me to be willing to talk 24/7. Also, if you sperg out about a change that I didn't make that you keep repeating the same reasons for why I should change it, odds are you won't change my mind).
Side note: Verdict as of right now is LG doesn't get Hall of Fame. I did see alot of support on the forums, but it was mainly coming from LG members themselves which, I had to take with a grain of salt. I still mulled it around a little, but I have seen some compelling arguments from elsewhere (that doesn't have to do with the drama) against. So, unless some sweaties really try pushing for it again, I will consider the matter closed for now. However, I would like to open up discussion as to if and where RussianFury (just Russian alone) should be added to the leader list, because I do feel that could be warranted.
Thats about it for now.
You're a dumb bitch too for not putting me on the list. Are you fucking serious? Waste and Theodin all these bums are 80 something, and I fucking washed them at 500 hours, any legend knows this, yet I'm still not on the list? The name is Dante, you dumb motherfucker. Put me on that list you fucking bum, and do something useful with your NW career. You aren't even top 5 in talent, and you were one of those pussies who always ducked the ft7. Since you motherfuckers are retarded, and need a real man to show you who is the best, here I go:
#1 Hour for Hour: Dante
Legends: Godfried, Maple, Jackie Chan, AsianP, Zzeth, Zorkoth, Breaches, Pinoy, and Tammo. (These are the ones I can name off the top of my head.)
Fuck all that 80 rating 90 rating shit, this is the list after those legends.
Very Good Players: Kovyjack (In his prime his offense was deadly), Dante (At 600 hours, I was never hit, and I beat everybody or barely lost in a competitive duel with the legends above, did things above my hour level and still known among the legends, just the pussies of NW like havoc and apoc don't know shit so they won't say shit), Slovahkin, Suns (He's a very good player, but not a legend), Ritz (He's just a very good player, but not legend status) , Mang (This dude is really good), RussianFury (Dude was really really good in his prime, but I also fucked him up), Hellomoto (9y days beast), Dj Overjoy (For a brief period was killing everbody, but even then I whupped his ass, then he whupped my ass, so we're even), Puppytron (Dude is underrated IMO), Rafael (Fight's like a pussy with 0 offense, but he's a veteran and still finds a way to win).
Good Players: Maccle, Waste, Pedro(Better than all those fuckers on this good player list), Moose, Rune (Dude can be on the very good players list, he can fuck up everyone on this shit).
Players who spent too many hours but still were getting dicked down by Dante:
Nappy, Maccle, Waste, North, Theodin, (Insert 45e, 3eVolt, 29th, 2ndCS members).
This is the official list. Now the king has spoken, you shall all know who was the best.
Spicy.
I didn't really play when you did Dante :( except for when you were in the 12th for awhileI never remember Dante also fucking me up as well.
Spicy.
I didn't really play when you did Dante :( except for when you were in the 12th for awhileI never remember Dante also fucking me up as well.
I think you've mistaken me with someone else. Unless you have a video or pictures of it i'm just going to claim that it's fake news.I didn't really play when you did Dante :( except for when you were in the 12th for awhileI never remember Dante also fucking me up as well.
i remember that, he did fuck you up, back when you didnt have 20 ping and you couldnt downspam to save all your problems
I didn't really play when you did Dante :( except for when you were in the 12th for awhile
I think you've mistaken me with someone else. Unless you have a video or pictures of it i'm just going to claim that it's fake news.I didn't really play when you did Dante :( except for when you were in the 12th for awhileI never remember Dante also fucking me up as well.
i remember that, he did fuck you up, back when you didnt have 20 ping and you couldnt downspam to save all your problems
Crank Chev up. He never blocked once and made everybody quiver in fear.He was a king
Oatmeal you are like one of those drunk uncles who need to put their input, when no one fucking asked. Shut the fuck up and watch hockey.Lol what a change of tone when I was beating your ass on pub duel at 300 hours and you were calling me the next big thing. Guess what motherfucker I run this whole game now, best ever at 550 hours ahahaha.
Guys, this thread is for high-tier shit-talking only. Low-Tier shit talk is for Purplish's thread, not this one. I accept only the greatest of bants.
matt feels like a broken record at this point. saying the same thing over and over again. we need a new model
dante handing out free L's
Oatmeal you are like one of those drunk uncles who need to put their input, when no one fucking asked. Shut the fuck up and watch hockey.Lol what a change of tone when I was beating your ass on pub duel at 300 hours and you were calling me the next big thing. Guess what motherfucker I run this whole game now, best ever at 550 hours ahahaha.
go back to commanding people to fight for you on total war weak ass pussy
whens the next duel tournament? this past one was just too easy
im starting to think about quitting this shits too easy and some of the weirdos in this community are stalking me
ive already achieved all my goals yah know
We already seen the GOAT once. Why have Tammo twice on the list?
(https://i.imgur.com/Qm7yPHJ.jpg)
(https://i.gyazo.com/641532fcd1f1bff8a98cda6af321b584.jpg) (https://gyazo.com/641532fcd1f1bff8a98cda6af321b584)you have only seen the meme maple. Prime maple was a lot better
7-4 against maple, guess that makes me a 94 on the all time list
dante dont make me expose you again boy
(https://i.gyazo.com/641532fcd1f1bff8a98cda6af321b584.jpg) (https://gyazo.com/641532fcd1f1bff8a98cda6af321b584)boy we were both memeing stop reaching for relevancy
7-4 against maple, guess that makes me a 94 on the all time list
dante dont make me expose you again boy
(https://i.gyazo.com/641532fcd1f1bff8a98cda6af321b584.jpg) (https://gyazo.com/641532fcd1f1bff8a98cda6af321b584)boy we were both memeing stop reaching for relevancy
7-4 against maple, guess that makes me a 94 on the all time list
dante dont make me expose you again boy
The chat indicates that maple was not “memeing” as he was trying to beat havoc for that rematch against the hour for hour GOAT. I whooped maples ass, pinoy ragequit our ft7, and Dante is way too pussy to ft7 me.
accept it guys I’m the dom cruz of nw I wiped all of team alpha male out
I didn't really play when you did Dante :( except for when you were in the 12th for awhile
You were in the 63e, you weren't bad or good, just an average player that I beat numerous times. Russian Fury, you were only good when you were in the moscov gren type shit, and you were a good groupfighter, as a duelist you were meh. You couldn't defeat the S key, and you got picked apart. Matt, you got 7-0, numerous times by me, and you weren't even around NW in the 12th days. You barely came on and they hyped you up to talk shit, and you always got fucked up and since then you've been slurring every time you talk, looking all droopy. Just because you got some autoblock, (Proof you aren't shit, but a bitch!), you think you are good. Get the fuck out of here, you scrub. Don't make me make "Inside Matt's Mom part 2" and end your career again, oh wait you never had a career! oh wait, you aren't relevant! Oh wait, you get your daily socialization on the fse forums! Don't even bother responding you will look stupid, but you already do, so....
Russian Fury is also one of those pussies who will be like "Pics or it didn't happen", listen you scrub, back when I was fucking all of NW up, with my Team A1pha Male crew, having Maple teach me defense, having Pinoy do ft100 duels with me, and doing classified duels with Mexicant, Suns, Slovahkiin, etc, beating you wasn't even considered a accomplishment. Only reason I mentioned you is because you are put as a high rating, and you were just a very good player, not of the same caliber as the other guys, so sit the fuck down and enjoy the ride.
And to the rest of you weak fucks, look at my list, and save it for your memory, because you won't see a motherfucker like me in NW again.
The chat indicates that maple was not “memeing” as he was trying to beat havoc for that rematch against the hour for hour GOAT. I whooped maples ass, pinoy ragequit our ft7, and Dante is way too pussy to ft7 me.
accept it guys I’m the dom cruz of nw I wiped all of team alpha male out
Bitch you ain't dom cruz, if you was dom cruz, I'd be Cody Garbrandt and dropped you the whole fight and made you look like a bitch. Maple is like Jon Jones, he'll fuck you so hard and even without a Cialis pill.
You aren't good. You aren't known. Stop talking. You are irrelevant. I ft7 the whole 45e, and you were easy work. Don't make me bring Pinoy and DJ to confirm that you're ass.
I've never been in the 63e xDI didn't really play when you did Dante :( except for when you were in the 12th for awhile
You were in the 63e, you weren't bad or good, just an average player that I beat numerous times. Russian Fury, you were only good when you were in the moscov gren type shit, and you were a good groupfighter, as a duelist you were meh. You couldn't defeat the S key, and you got picked apart. Matt, you got 7-0, numerous times by me, and you weren't even around NW in the 12th days. You barely came on and they hyped you up to talk shit, and you always got fucked up and since then you've been slurring every time you talk, looking all droopy. Just because you got some autoblock, (Proof you aren't shit, but a bitch!), you think you are good. Get the fuck out of here, you scrub. Don't make me make "Inside Matt's Mom part 2" and end your career again, oh wait you never had a career! oh wait, you aren't relevant! Oh wait, you get your daily socialization on the fse forums! Don't even bother responding you will look stupid, but you already do, so....
Russian Fury is also one of those pussies who will be like "Pics or it didn't happen", listen you scrub, back when I was fucking all of NW up, with my Team A1pha Male crew, having Maple teach me defense, having Pinoy do ft100 duels with me, and doing classified duels with Mexicant, Suns, Slovahkiin, etc, beating you wasn't even considered a accomplishment. Only reason I mentioned you is because you are put as a high rating, and you were just a very good player, not of the same caliber as the other guys, so sit the fuck down and enjoy the ride.
And to the rest of you weak fucks, look at my list, and save it for your memory, because you won't see a motherfucker like me in NW again.
honestly who are these clowns. duel kids have some shamefully bad banter
(https://i.gyazo.com/641532fcd1f1bff8a98cda6af321b584.jpg) (https://gyazo.com/641532fcd1f1bff8a98cda6af321b584)boy we were both memeing stop reaching for relevancy
7-4 against maple, guess that makes me a 94 on the all time list
dante dont make me expose you again boy
It’s crazy how y’all romanticize over old players who dominated when the game was at its weakest. All those guys come back and get dominated by the community’s most average players. All time list is beyond retarded, all those guys are like 80 today.(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/913549604212624157/4229BA26FB01613282C4752C0F100323A88B0A2A/)? ? ? ?
8)It’s crazy how y’all romanticize over old players who dominated when the game was at its weakest. All those guys come back and get dominated by the community’s most average players. All time list is beyond retarded, all those guys are like 80 today.(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/913549604212624157/4229BA26FB01613282C4752C0F100323A88B0A2A/)????
K so after that screenshot, I have decided to give Who- Ghost's spot in the 90s instead, and move Ghost even further down to 86.11 - Ghost
It’s crazy how y’all romanticize over old players who dominated when the game was at its weakest. All those guys come back and get dominated by the community’s most average players. All time list is beyond retarded, all those guys are like 80 today.(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/913549604212624157/4229BA26FB01613282C4752C0F100323A88B0A2A/)? ? ? ?
Aight update time. Lets move some things around again.
My planned changes are:
-Main thing is Ghost goes back to the 90s, probably back to a 91 or 92. I actually screwed up there. That's on me.Who- took his place instead.
-Lithios goes down to 90. Slightly controversial, but he wasn't around for long, and he honestly didn't impress me that much (mainly because he never really FT7d me). Plus, he relied pretty heavily on the double x which, is no longer in the game. Still a good player tho.
-Pointblank gets dropped out of the 90s, probably to 89. Similar reasoning to Lithios, he wasn't around for too long nor did he accomplish very much.
-Havoc goes to 93
-Maple I am considering whether he goes to 92 or 91 after some conversations with others.
-Godfreid goes to 91 to be more in line with changes elsewhere because....
-Basically everyone 93 or above who I have not specifically mentioned gets moved down a point.
-Gonna remove Havoc's list off of my OP as I feel I have had a productive chat with him (which led to alot of the changes)/will probably have more productive chat time later with him.
Below 90 changes:
-Krastinov, Fireboy and KosJ grab a 85, Sanders gets an8384, Cade gets an 86, Theodin gets an 84, Raf gets an 85, Waste gets an8283
Below around 90 will remain very much so a WIP so bear with me, and if you have any changes you think are unwarranted or ARE warranted, let me know. I am actually willing to talk (as long as its at a convenient time for me, don't expect me to be willing to talk 24/7. Also, if you sperg out about a change that I didn't make that you keep repeating the same reasons for why I should change it, odds are you won't change my mind).
Side note: Verdict as of right now is LG doesn't get Hall of Fame. I did see alot of support on the forums, but it was mainly coming from LG members themselves which, I had to take with a grain of salt. I still mulled it around a little, but I have seen some compelling arguments from elsewhere (that doesn't have to do with the drama) against. So, unless some sweaties really try pushing for it again, I will consider the matter closed for now. However, I would like to open up discussion as to if and where RussianFury (just Russian alone) should be added to the leader list, because I do feel that could be warranted.
Thats about it for now.
It’s crazy how y’all romanticize over old players who dominated when the game was at its weakest. All those guys come back and get dominated by the community’s most average players. All time list is beyond retarded, all those guys are like 80 today.Eh, I think the list is pretty solid, but I'd move a few players around. For example, I'd say Emo was an 87 at his prime. Barely anybody could counter his over-complicated feints and he claims to have lost ft7s to only a select few people. Russian should be a 90 or higher, topfragged for the LG and made a name for himself in the 71st. Mang maybe warrants a 90 for his ability to turn groupfights around and ridiculous clutch potential, even though he would cause (rather hilarious) shitstorms whenever he felt like it.
Kept my mouth shut after all these years about how good I was and now im finally recognized. feelsgoodmanyou arent good
? ? ? ?Kept my mouth shut after all these years about how good I was and now im finally recognized. feelsgoodmanyou arent good
?? ? ? ?Kept my mouth shut after all these years about how good I was and now im finally recognized. feelsgoodmanyou arent good
Since we're measuring penises, mine is 2" hard. Anyone bigger?1.5 inches flaccid. It's never gotten hard so who knows what kind of firepower I'm dealing with here (or lack thereof).
Since we're measuring penises, mine is 2" hard. Anyone bigger?1.5 inches flaccid. It's never gotten hard so who knows what kind of firepower I'm dealing with here (or lack thereof).
ap0c if you really are a 93 rated on the all time how'd you get 5-0'd by these goofies LOLOL ive seen ghost comeback after 6 months and top groupfights yet hes rated below you like wtf? if you're so good how come you cant unrust as fast as the other top NA's?
Can't waitSince we're measuring penises, mine is 2" hard. Anyone bigger?1.5 inches flaccid. It's never gotten hard so who knows what kind of firepower I'm dealing with here (or lack thereof).
Not bad! Don't worry, you'll find a nice big black man to get hard to someday 8)
It’s crazy how y’all romanticize over old players who dominated when the game was at its weakest. All those guys come back and get dominated by the community’s most average players. All time list is beyond retarded, all those guys are like 80 today.
It’s crazy how y’all romanticize over old players who dominated when the game was at its weakest. All those guys come back and get dominated by the community’s most average players. All time list is beyond retarded, all those guys are like 80 today.
(https://i.imgur.com/yymbjY7.png)
ap0c if you really are a 93 rated on the all time how'd you get 5-0'd by these goofies LOLOL ive seen ghost comeback after 6 months and top groupfights yet hes rated below you like wtf? if you're so good how come you cant unrust as fast as the other top NA's?
1. 2 Years is alot more than 6 months.
2. Anthony was having an awful day. He didn't get a single frag.
ap0c if you really are a 93 rated on the all time how'd you get 5-0'd by these goofies LOLOL ive seen ghost comeback after 6 months and top groupfights yet hes rated below you like wtf? if you're so good how come you cant unrust as fast as the other top NA's?
1. 2 Years is alot more than 6 months.
2. Anthony was having an awful day. He didn't get a single frag.
that's a lie you came back for 58e under the smite name Anhur you were gone at most 1.5 years (stretching it) and you even joined the 3eVolt at one point
6 months compared to 2 years is essentially the same thing, both are long periods of time and rust settles in usually after a month, do you have some rust calculator that demonstrates a slope of degrading melee skill following periods of absence from the game or something ap0c? LMFAO
so if i quit the game for 1 month ill have more skill compared to quitting for 2 months? lmao what noob
https://gyazo.com/4379a29c6790f03dbb82e16b8cf255d0
if you're such a "tough duelist" to go against how come you get hammered on NW everytime I see you like LOOOOOL ap0c come on man there's 85's right now who could demolish you in groupfighting or dueling and they play way more hours less than you do yet theyre much more successful
Who- came back after a year's absence and topped a groupfight how come i dont see you doing those yet you're a "93" rated all time? like what LMAO
(https://i.imgur.com/uV01ApF.png)SpoilerI should be above/at the level of grimsight in the all time leaders list tbh.[close]
ap0c if you really are a 93 rated on the all time how'd you get 5-0'd by these goofies LOLOL ive seen ghost comeback after 6 months and top groupfights yet hes rated below you like wtf? if you're so good how come you cant unrust as fast as the other top NA's?
1. 2 Years is alot more than 6 months.
2. Anthony was having an awful day. He didn't get a single frag.
that's a lie you came back for 58e under the smite name Anhur you were gone at most 1.5 years (stretching it) and you even joined the 3eVolt at one point
6 months compared to 2 years is essentially the same thing, both are long periods of time and rust settles in usually after a month, do you have some rust calculator that demonstrates a slope of degrading melee skill following periods of absence from the game or something ap0c? LMFAO
so if i quit the game for 1 month ill have more skill compared to quitting for 2 months? lmao what noob
https://gyazo.com/4379a29c6790f03dbb82e16b8cf255d0
if you're such a "tough duelist" to go against how come you get hammered on NW everytime I see you like LOOOOOL ap0c come on man there's 85's right now who could demolish you in groupfighting or dueling and they play way more hours less than you do yet theyre much more successful
Who- came back after a year's absence and topped a groupfight how come i dont see you doing those yet you're a "93" rated all time? like what LMAO
58e was like mid 2016. I came back...in mid 2018. Thats 2 years. I didn't even play actively at all back then either. I got on for LBs every now and then (didnt even go to all of them) thats literally it.
Whats more impressive is there are players like you who are shit for years randomly get full of themselves when everyone good quits and then decide they are good.
Leagues LG has won or finished 2nd in: LG has been around for over a year and couple of months and won NANWL (With little competition besides 57th of course), NAPL S2(Beat 3eVolt). LG was 2nd place in NAPL S1 (6te should of won it cuz of course we r3kt LG in melee in the 2nd half but 30th won it) and then RGL 2nd place (3e had more skilled players then LG did at the match and people under performed like myself).
Melee Tournaments LG has won: Melee tournaments won by LG - 6x 1st Place & 2x 2nd Place.SpoilerMaccles Second 2v2 Tournament - Wastee & Sanders - 1st Place
Liquids 4v4 Tournament - Wastee, RussianFury, NickCole, Theodin - 1st Place
Dan's Ultimate Gfing Tournament Part IV - Wastee, RussianFury, NickCole, Yoshie, Bill - 1st Place
Orcaryo's 7v7 Tournament - Wastee, RussianFury, NickCole, Yoshie, Bill, Rafael, Jorge - 1st Place
Lawbringers 3v3 Tournament - Wastee, RussianFury, Yoshie - 1st Place
NA Gold 5v5 Groupfighting League Season 2 - Wastee, RussianFury, Yoshie, Rafael, DJ, Havoc - 1st Place
NickColes 4v4 Tournament - Wastee, RussianFury, Yoshie, Jorge - 2nd Place
Ultimate Groupfighting Tournament Part VII - Wastee, Yoshie, Rafael, Russianfury - 2nd Place[close]
Requirements to be a HoF Regiment: From what I see to be a HoF regiment you need League and Tournament wins, how long the regiment was top or top tier during their time, out of all their 1v1 & GF wins how many were against the best regiments at the time, and their best lineup compared to others all-time (correct me if I am wrong). I already shown you the league and tournament wins, LG been around since late 2016 - early 2018 (I am estimating) and was top of NA easily for the majority of the time it was around, 32e (10-0 in GF & 2-0 in 1v1s), 45e/57th(3-0 in GF & 2W - 1T), 3eVolt(7-10 in GF & 1-1-3 I will take Godfreid word for this), and 63e(GF 5-1 in GF & 1-1 in 1v1s), and this is LG total roster from both LG & 45e people (I believe the combined roster can compete with any of the all-time regiments).&LG guys non 45eOberst RussianFury
Oberst-Lt Wastee
Lt Yoshiee
Uffz Theodin
Uffz Boob
Uffz Glenn
Uffz CluelessWill
Uffz Orcaryo
Kpl Jorge
Kpl NickCole
Kpl Bauer
Kpl Roggeh
S-Gefr Swerp
O-Gefr Predurrdurr
O-Gefr Nevino
Gefr Matt
Gefr Oatmeal
Gefr Domino
Gefr Gandalf
Gefr Dom13
Gefr Wiki
Gefr Gi
Gefr Saltyy
Gefr Lurvy
Gefr Tacoman
Gefr Havoc
Gren Purplish
Gren Kristine
Gren Min
Gren Elite
Gren Free2u2
Gren Price
Gren Rothgar
Gren That_Guy
Gren Essex
Gren Dyre
Gren Fern
Gren Sandi
Gren Kairo
Gren Zappy
Gren Unitatier
Gren Vader
Gren Voodoo
Gren JihadJay
Gren Sharing
Gren Cwater
Gren Pooba/Boz
Gren Skitty
Gren Headshot
Gren Rico
Gren Murman
Gren YoloSwag
Gren Colonys22
Gren Darkenmal
Gren Dickhardrock
Gren Jaax
Gren James
Gren Bunnies
Gren Shampoopy
Gren Holborn
Gren Whalefish
Fus BillTheButcher
Fus Rey Mysterio (fireboy)
Fus SkyZ
Fus DanMan
Fus Crocodile
Fus Tacoboy
Fus Maniac
Fus Tucker
Fus Luis
Fus Alexander (the retarded one)
Fus Cheeseypants
Fus Chalres123
Fus Gman
Fus Eazy-E
Fus Pieter
Fus Ogrelord
Fus Porkins
Fus Hando
Fus Foddy
Fus Kalashnikov
Fus Hurstey
Fus HNDRXX
Fus Baptiste
Fus Rogelio
Fus skinny
Fus Aporta
Fus EasterCow
Fus Beansacks
Chef Dan (he can’t make anything)[close]45e guys addedFahn Rafael
Fwbl Dj OverJoy
MUffz Killershark
Gefr Pinoy
Gren Hawkince
Gren Gul
Gren Pedro
Gren TerribleTim
Gren Archer
Gren Asuna
Gren Charles
Gren Chantakey
Gren Fox
Gren Suns
Gren Wall
Fus Mattboi
Fus Operus
Fus Dukers
Fus Ian
Fus Shepard
Fus Gul
Fus Montoytoy
Fus Badger[close]
Based on the resume LG has I believe should be in the regiment HoF (I think 5th/75th should aswell). I get people will argue that NA was small and there was only 2 regiments good at the time however, LG was better than everyone until 3eVolt reform and kept going back and forth with them. LG dominated the tournament scene in 2017 until they lost to SoF in the 4v4 (ez pz) but still finished top 2 in 8 melee tournaments in a 6-10 month span. Something we haven't seen since 12th, 63e, & 71st, etc. did it back in the day. How can you put regiments like 9y & 1stFKI for not winning any leagues (I'm not saying they shouldn't be in the regiment HoF) and not the LG. People that dislike LG will say that we wasn't top NA that long since 3eVolt was overall better in 2017 but the fact that LG went back and forth with a HoF regiment (3eVolt) and beat them in NAPL should give LG even a stronger reason to be in the regiment HoF. 3eVolt bias n3rds will say LG needed a stack to beat 3eVolt but almost every HoF regiment had melee stacks (except 63e) so why should that factor even matter??? In addition, people that say there was no competition should realize that for the past 3-4 years for the most part there has been 2 or 3 regiment each year that has been better than everyone else (like 71st, 63e, 58e, 3eVolt to name a few) because most of the good players always join the top regiments at the time instead of helping lower tier regiments to become good (like myself). So the "no competition" excuse shouldn't even matter since the top regiments of the past 3-4 years had little or no competition in their reign because they were just simply better than everyone else.
I made this post to try and show why LG deserves a spot in the HoF. If you are going to have a community list for all time melee, regiments, leaders, etc. you need to at least update it and put people or regiments on there that deserve it.
SpoilerLeagues LG has won or finished 2nd in: LG has been around for over a year and couple of months and won NANWL (With little competition besides 57th of course), NAPL S2(Beat 3eVolt). LG was 2nd place in NAPL S1 (6te should of won it cuz of course we r3kt LG in melee in the 2nd half but 30th won it) and then RGL 2nd place (3e had more skilled players then LG did at the match and people under performed like myself).
Melee Tournaments LG has won: Melee tournaments won by LG - 6x 1st Place & 2x 2nd Place.SpoilerMaccles Second 2v2 Tournament - Wastee & Sanders - 1st Place
Liquids 4v4 Tournament - Wastee, RussianFury, NickCole, Theodin - 1st Place
Dan's Ultimate Gfing Tournament Part IV - Wastee, RussianFury, NickCole, Yoshie, Bill - 1st Place
Orcaryo's 7v7 Tournament - Wastee, RussianFury, NickCole, Yoshie, Bill, Rafael, Jorge - 1st Place
Lawbringers 3v3 Tournament - Wastee, RussianFury, Yoshie - 1st Place
NA Gold 5v5 Groupfighting League Season 2 - Wastee, RussianFury, Yoshie, Rafael, DJ, Havoc - 1st Place
NickColes 4v4 Tournament - Wastee, RussianFury, Yoshie, Jorge - 2nd Place
Ultimate Groupfighting Tournament Part VII - Wastee, Yoshie, Rafael, Russianfury - 2nd Place[close]
Requirements to be a HoF Regiment: From what I see to be a HoF regiment you need League and Tournament wins, how long the regiment was top or top tier during their time, out of all their 1v1 & GF wins how many were against the best regiments at the time, and their best lineup compared to others all-time (correct me if I am wrong). I already shown you the league and tournament wins, LG been around since late 2016 - early 2018 (I am estimating) and was top of NA easily for the majority of the time it was around, 32e (10-0 in GF & 2-0 in 1v1s), 45e/57th(3-0 in GF & 2W - 1T), 3eVolt(7-10 in GF & 1-1-3 I will take Godfreid word for this), and 63e(GF 5-1 in GF & 1-1 in 1v1s), and this is LG total roster from both LG & 45e people (I believe the combined roster can compete with any of the all-time regiments).&LG guys non 45eOberst RussianFury
Oberst-Lt Wastee
Lt Yoshiee
Uffz Theodin
Uffz Boob
Uffz Glenn
Uffz CluelessWill
Uffz Orcaryo
Kpl Jorge
Kpl NickCole
Kpl Bauer
Kpl Roggeh
S-Gefr Swerp
O-Gefr Predurrdurr
O-Gefr Nevino
Gefr Matt
Gefr Oatmeal
Gefr Domino
Gefr Gandalf
Gefr Dom13
Gefr Wiki
Gefr Gi
Gefr Saltyy
Gefr Lurvy
Gefr Tacoman
Gefr Havoc
Gren Purplish
Gren Kristine
Gren Min
Gren Elite
Gren Free2u2
Gren Price
Gren Rothgar
Gren That_Guy
Gren Essex
Gren Dyre
Gren Fern
Gren Sandi
Gren Kairo
Gren Zappy
Gren Unitatier
Gren Vader
Gren Voodoo
Gren JihadJay
Gren Sharing
Gren Cwater
Gren Pooba/Boz
Gren Skitty
Gren Headshot
Gren Rico
Gren Murman
Gren YoloSwag
Gren Colonys22
Gren Darkenmal
Gren Dickhardrock
Gren Jaax
Gren James
Gren Bunnies
Gren Shampoopy
Gren Holborn
Gren Whalefish
Fus BillTheButcher
Fus Rey Mysterio (fireboy)
Fus SkyZ
Fus DanMan
Fus Crocodile
Fus Tacoboy
Fus Maniac
Fus Tucker
Fus Luis
Fus Alexander (the retarded one)
Fus Cheeseypants
Fus Chalres123
Fus Gman
Fus Eazy-E
Fus Pieter
Fus Ogrelord
Fus Porkins
Fus Hando
Fus Foddy
Fus Kalashnikov
Fus Hurstey
Fus HNDRXX
Fus Baptiste
Fus Rogelio
Fus skinny
Fus Aporta
Fus EasterCow
Fus Beansacks
Chef Dan (he can’t make anything)[close]45e guys addedFahn Rafael
Fwbl Dj OverJoy
MUffz Killershark
Gefr Pinoy
Gren Hawkince
Gren Gul
Gren Pedro
Gren TerribleTim
Gren Archer
Gren Asuna
Gren Charles
Gren Chantakey
Gren Fox
Gren Suns
Gren Wall
Fus Mattboi
Fus Operus
Fus Dukers
Fus Ian
Fus Shepard
Fus Gul
Fus Montoytoy
Fus Badger[close]
Based on the resume LG has I believe should be in the regiment HoF (I think 5th/75th should aswell). I get people will argue that NA was small and there was only 2 regiments good at the time however, LG was better than everyone until 3eVolt reform and kept going back and forth with them. LG dominated the tournament scene in 2017 until they lost to SoF in the 4v4 (ez pz) but still finished top 2 in 8 melee tournaments in a 6-10 month span. Something we haven't seen since 12th, 63e, & 71st, etc. did it back in the day. How can you put regiments like 9y & 1stFKI for not winning any leagues (I'm not saying they shouldn't be in the regiment HoF) and not the LG. People that dislike LG will say that we wasn't top NA that long since 3eVolt was overall better in 2017 but the fact that LG went back and forth with a HoF regiment (3eVolt) and beat them in NAPL should give LG even a stronger reason to be in the regiment HoF. 3eVolt bias n3rds will say LG needed a stack to beat 3eVolt but almost every HoF regiment had melee stacks (except 63e) so why should that factor even matter??? In addition, people that say there was no competition should realize that for the past 3-4 years for the most part there has been 2 or 3 regiment each year that has been better than everyone else (like 71st, 63e, 58e, 3eVolt to name a few) because most of the good players always join the top regiments at the time instead of helping lower tier regiments to become good (like myself). So the "no competition" excuse shouldn't even matter since the top regiments of the past 3-4 years had little or no competition in their reign because they were just simply better than everyone else.
I made this post to try and show why LG deserves a spot in the HoF. If you are going to have a community list for all time melee, regiments, leaders, etc. you need to at least update it and put people or regiments on there that deserve it.[close]
I don't think there were any leagues around when 9y existed lol, but 2teGarde I think would be a close example of how they would've done
It's not just that the regiments that existed in late 2016-2017 weren't good (they were decent) it's that for most of LG's existence, outside of groupfights, they weren't as unbeatable as the other Hall of Fame regiments were during their reigns. Even before the 3eVolt reformed, LG took losses to 63e, 4th, Sil, 6te tied with USMC and 30th, had multiple close (6-4) matches against regiments like 32e and 30th etc.
And the 4th who were objectively garbage at that time managed to put up wins and ties against almost all those regiments, even with the players those regiments got from 1er. The level of competition at the time was just bad.
Also no, the 3eVolt from 2017 isn't the same 3eVolt that's in the Hall of Fame, so saying LG went back and forth with a Hall of Fame regiment is inaccurate (and even still back forth is a bit of a stretch if you actually look at the records).
If the other Hall of Fame regiments had been around during that time in place of the LG, they would have swept the competition completely, without a doubt.
It's like putting a Major League team against 5 minor league teams, and saying it was one of the best Major League teams after its beaten them. I just don't get it.
LG was a good regiment, but I still don't see any reason for it to be placed among the best regiments of all time.
SpoilerLeagues LG has won or finished 2nd in: LG has been around for over a year and couple of months and won NANWL (With little competition besides 57th of course), NAPL S2(Beat 3eVolt). LG was 2nd place in NAPL S1 (6te should of won it cuz of course we r3kt LG in melee in the 2nd half but 30th won it) and then RGL 2nd place (3e had more skilled players then LG did at the match and people under performed like myself).
Melee Tournaments LG has won: Melee tournaments won by LG - 6x 1st Place & 2x 2nd Place.SpoilerMaccles Second 2v2 Tournament - Wastee & Sanders - 1st Place
Liquids 4v4 Tournament - Wastee, RussianFury, NickCole, Theodin - 1st Place
Dan's Ultimate Gfing Tournament Part IV - Wastee, RussianFury, NickCole, Yoshie, Bill - 1st Place
Orcaryo's 7v7 Tournament - Wastee, RussianFury, NickCole, Yoshie, Bill, Rafael, Jorge - 1st Place
Lawbringers 3v3 Tournament - Wastee, RussianFury, Yoshie - 1st Place
NA Gold 5v5 Groupfighting League Season 2 - Wastee, RussianFury, Yoshie, Rafael, DJ, Havoc - 1st Place
NickColes 4v4 Tournament - Wastee, RussianFury, Yoshie, Jorge - 2nd Place
Ultimate Groupfighting Tournament Part VII - Wastee, Yoshie, Rafael, Russianfury - 2nd Place[close]
Requirements to be a HoF Regiment: From what I see to be a HoF regiment you need League and Tournament wins, how long the regiment was top or top tier during their time, out of all their 1v1 & GF wins how many were against the best regiments at the time, and their best lineup compared to others all-time (correct me if I am wrong). I already shown you the league and tournament wins, LG been around since late 2016 - early 2018 (I am estimating) and was top of NA easily for the majority of the time it was around, 32e (10-0 in GF & 2-0 in 1v1s), 45e/57th(3-0 in GF & 2W - 1T), 3eVolt(7-10 in GF & 1-1-3 I will take Godfreid word for this), and 63e(GF 5-1 in GF & 1-1 in 1v1s), and this is LG total roster from both LG & 45e people (I believe the combined roster can compete with any of the all-time regiments).&LG guys non 45eOberst RussianFury
Oberst-Lt Wastee
Lt Yoshiee
Uffz Theodin
Uffz Boob
Uffz Glenn
Uffz CluelessWill
Uffz Orcaryo
Kpl Jorge
Kpl NickCole
Kpl Bauer
Kpl Roggeh
S-Gefr Swerp
O-Gefr Predurrdurr
O-Gefr Nevino
Gefr Matt
Gefr Oatmeal
Gefr Domino
Gefr Gandalf
Gefr Dom13
Gefr Wiki
Gefr Gi
Gefr Saltyy
Gefr Lurvy
Gefr Tacoman
Gefr Havoc
Gren Purplish
Gren Kristine
Gren Min
Gren Elite
Gren Free2u2
Gren Price
Gren Rothgar
Gren That_Guy
Gren Essex
Gren Dyre
Gren Fern
Gren Sandi
Gren Kairo
Gren Zappy
Gren Unitatier
Gren Vader
Gren Voodoo
Gren JihadJay
Gren Sharing
Gren Cwater
Gren Pooba/Boz
Gren Skitty
Gren Headshot
Gren Rico
Gren Murman
Gren YoloSwag
Gren Colonys22
Gren Darkenmal
Gren Dickhardrock
Gren Jaax
Gren James
Gren Bunnies
Gren Shampoopy
Gren Holborn
Gren Whalefish
Fus BillTheButcher
Fus Rey Mysterio (fireboy)
Fus SkyZ
Fus DanMan
Fus Crocodile
Fus Tacoboy
Fus Maniac
Fus Tucker
Fus Luis
Fus Alexander (the retarded one)
Fus Cheeseypants
Fus Chalres123
Fus Gman
Fus Eazy-E
Fus Pieter
Fus Ogrelord
Fus Porkins
Fus Hando
Fus Foddy
Fus Kalashnikov
Fus Hurstey
Fus HNDRXX
Fus Baptiste
Fus Rogelio
Fus skinny
Fus Aporta
Fus EasterCow
Fus Beansacks
Chef Dan (he can’t make anything)[close]45e guys addedFahn Rafael
Fwbl Dj OverJoy
MUffz Killershark
Gefr Pinoy
Gren Hawkince
Gren Gul
Gren Pedro
Gren TerribleTim
Gren Archer
Gren Asuna
Gren Charles
Gren Chantakey
Gren Fox
Gren Suns
Gren Wall
Fus Mattboi
Fus Operus
Fus Dukers
Fus Ian
Fus Shepard
Fus Gul
Fus Montoytoy
Fus Badger[close]
Based on the resume LG has I believe should be in the regiment HoF (I think 5th/75th should aswell). I get people will argue that NA was small and there was only 2 regiments good at the time however, LG was better than everyone until 3eVolt reform and kept going back and forth with them. LG dominated the tournament scene in 2017 until they lost to SoF in the 4v4 (ez pz) but still finished top 2 in 8 melee tournaments in a 6-10 month span. Something we haven't seen since 12th, 63e, & 71st, etc. did it back in the day. How can you put regiments like 9y & 1stFKI for not winning any leagues (I'm not saying they shouldn't be in the regiment HoF) and not the LG. People that dislike LG will say that we wasn't top NA that long since 3eVolt was overall better in 2017 but the fact that LG went back and forth with a HoF regiment (3eVolt) and beat them in NAPL should give LG even a stronger reason to be in the regiment HoF. 3eVolt bias n3rds will say LG needed a stack to beat 3eVolt but almost every HoF regiment had melee stacks (except 63e) so why should that factor even matter??? In addition, people that say there was no competition should realize that for the past 3-4 years for the most part there has been 2 or 3 regiment each year that has been better than everyone else (like 71st, 63e, 58e, 3eVolt to name a few) because most of the good players always join the top regiments at the time instead of helping lower tier regiments to become good (like myself). So the "no competition" excuse shouldn't even matter since the top regiments of the past 3-4 years had little or no competition in their reign because they were just simply better than everyone else.
I made this post to try and show why LG deserves a spot in the HoF. If you are going to have a community list for all time melee, regiments, leaders, etc. you need to at least update it and put people or regiments on there that deserve it.[close]
The best regiment at the time was the 9y, and the 12th had way more members and surpassed it. The 12th at its peak had Tico, Zzeth, Breaches, Zorkoth, Sharpshooter, Dante, Ghost, Blood, Jackie Chan, and a whole lot of other players. Nobody was bad in the 12th. No regiment could fuck with the 12th. It was the best regiment, the most disciplined regiment, and it beat everybody. The 12th Regiment was so good that we got bored of winning and disbanded. True story.
I don't think there were any leagues around when 9y existed lol, but 2teGarde I think would be a close example of how they would've done
It's not just that the regiments that existed in late 2016-2017 weren't good (they were decent) it's that for most of LG's existence, outside of groupfights, they weren't as unbeatable as the other Hall of Fame regiments were during their reigns. Even before the 3eVolt reformed, LG took losses to 63e, 4th, Sil, 6te tied with USMC and 30th, had multiple close (6-4) matches against regiments like 32e and 30th etc.
And the 4th who were objectively garbage at that time managed to put up wins and ties against almost all those regiments, even with the players those regiments got from 1er. The level of competition at the time was just bad.
Also no, the 3eVolt from 2017 isn't the same 3eVolt that's in the Hall of Fame, so saying LG went back and forth with a Hall of Fame regiment is inaccurate (and even still back forth is a bit of a stretch if you actually look at the records).
If the other Hall of Fame regiments had been around during that time in place of the LG, they would have swept the competition completely, without a doubt.
It's like putting a Major League team against 5 minor league teams, and saying it was one of the best Major League teams after its beaten them. I just don't get it.
LG was a good regiment, but I still don't see any reason for it to be placed among the best regiments of all time.
all these old heads talkin shit on here can ft7 me whenever they want, you’ll share the same fate as “boywonder” maple. Also apoc thought he’d come back and get invited to the tournament but just got shit on lmao... why is this fuckin rustbucket making lists
ap0c if you really are a 93 rated on the all time how'd you get 5-0'd by these goofies LOLOL ive seen ghost comeback after 6 months and top groupfights yet hes rated below you like wtf? if you're so good how come you cant unrust as fast as the other top NA's?
1. 2 Years is alot more than 6 months.
2. Anthony was having an awful day. He didn't get a single frag.
that's a lie you came back for 58e under the smite name Anhur you were gone at most 1.5 years (stretching it) and you even joined the 3eVolt at one point
6 months compared to 2 years is essentially the same thing, both are long periods of time and rust settles in usually after a month, do you have some rust calculator that demonstrates a slope of degrading melee skill following periods of absence from the game or something ap0c? LMFAO
so if i quit the game for 1 month ill have more skill compared to quitting for 2 months? lmao what noob
https://gyazo.com/4379a29c6790f03dbb82e16b8cf255d0
if you're such a "tough duelist" to go against how come you get hammered on NW everytime I see you like LOOOOOL ap0c come on man there's 85's right now who could demolish you in groupfighting or dueling and they play way more hours less than you do yet theyre much more successful
Who- came back after a year's absence and topped a groupfight how come i dont see you doing those yet you're a "93" rated all time? like what LMAO
58e was like mid 2016. I came back...in mid 2018. Thats 2 years. I didn't even play actively at all back then either. I got on for LBs every now and then (didnt even go to all of them) thats literally it.
Whats more impressive is there are players like you who are shit for years randomly get full of themselves when everyone good quits and then decide they are good.
ap0c if you really are a 93 rated on the all time how'd you get 5-0'd by these goofies LOLOL ive seen ghost comeback after 6 months and top groupfights yet hes rated below you like wtf? if you're so good how come you cant unrust as fast as the other top NA's?
1. 2 Years is alot more than 6 months.
2. Anthony was having an awful day. He didn't get a single frag.
that's a lie you came back for 58e under the smite name Anhur you were gone at most 1.5 years (stretching it) and you even joined the 3eVolt at one point
6 months compared to 2 years is essentially the same thing, both are long periods of time and rust settles in usually after a month, do you have some rust calculator that demonstrates a slope of degrading melee skill following periods of absence from the game or something ap0c? LMFAO
so if i quit the game for 1 month ill have more skill compared to quitting for 2 months? lmao what noob
https://gyazo.com/4379a29c6790f03dbb82e16b8cf255d0
if you're such a "tough duelist" to go against how come you get hammered on NW everytime I see you like LOOOOOL ap0c come on man there's 85's right now who could demolish you in groupfighting or dueling and they play way more hours less than you do yet theyre much more successful
Who- came back after a year's absence and topped a groupfight how come i dont see you doing those yet you're a "93" rated all time? like what LMAO
58e was like mid 2016. I came back...in mid 2018. Thats 2 years. I didn't even play actively at all back then either. I got on for LBs every now and then (didnt even go to all of them) thats literally it.
Whats more impressive is there are players like you who are shit for years randomly get full of themselves when everyone good quits and then decide they are good.
Apoc you've been a pussy even back then because I've been around since 12th days, and you were ducking the ft7 all the fucking time, and on the NA GF server I saw you fight, and you were shit. I never got why you or Havoc have the authority to make a list, when you both are shit. At least Suns duels everybody, and has the balls to call people out. You've also been avoiding my past posts, and that just proves your a big bitch.
Motherfucker, everybody knows who Dante is. Suns will tell you who I am. Suns will VOUCH for me that I was a beast for my 600 hours and I'm hour for hour #1 and we'll both beat your ass even in your prime. You sucked. In your hour class, Tammo, Maple, Pinoy etc. All owned you. You are never mentioned. Gtfo.
(https://i.imgur.com/uV01ApF.png)SpoilerI should be above/at the level of grimsight in the all time leaders list tbh.[close]
all these old heads talkin shit on here can ft7 me whenever they want, you’ll share the same fate as “boywonder” maple. Also apoc thought he’d come back and get invited to the tournament but just got shit on lmao... why is this fuckin rustbucket making lists
LMFAO i remember maple going on na gf "oatmeal ft7" "ok"
10 minutes later "7-4 gg" "i wasnt trying" "you challenged me bitch" LOOOOOOOOLSpoilerap0c if you really are a 93 rated on the all time how'd you get 5-0'd by these goofies LOLOL ive seen ghost comeback after 6 months and top groupfights yet hes rated below you like wtf? if you're so good how come you cant unrust as fast as the other top NA's?
1. 2 Years is alot more than 6 months.
2. Anthony was having an awful day. He didn't get a single frag.
that's a lie you came back for 58e under the smite name Anhur you were gone at most 1.5 years (stretching it) and you even joined the 3eVolt at one point
6 months compared to 2 years is essentially the same thing, both are long periods of time and rust settles in usually after a month, do you have some rust calculator that demonstrates a slope of degrading melee skill following periods of absence from the game or something ap0c? LMFAO
so if i quit the game for 1 month ill have more skill compared to quitting for 2 months? lmao what noob
https://gyazo.com/4379a29c6790f03dbb82e16b8cf255d0
if you're such a "tough duelist" to go against how come you get hammered on NW everytime I see you like LOOOOOL ap0c come on man there's 85's right now who could demolish you in groupfighting or dueling and they play way more hours less than you do yet theyre much more successful
Who- came back after a year's absence and topped a groupfight how come i dont see you doing those yet you're a "93" rated all time? like what LMAO
58e was like mid 2016. I came back...in mid 2018. Thats 2 years. I didn't even play actively at all back then either. I got on for LBs every now and then (didnt even go to all of them) thats literally it.
Whats more impressive is there are players like you who are shit for years randomly get full of themselves when everyone good quits and then decide they are good.[close]
yo apoc i bet you wouldn't be able to do stuff i have done i 7-6'd godfreid last ft7 and he's one of the "old players" who hasn't quit the game the past couple of years and somehow im shit? he's a 92 LOLOOOOOL
how am i shit and full of myself if you rate yourself at 93 yet you "haven't dominated since 2013" ap0c you rate yourself high above everyone else but you havent even played LMFAO
here are some of my 7-0s from my collection (not entirety)
https://gyazo.com/92dd4bc27d673e3969b2d0af1f64c612
https://gyazo.com/39dfe65a76ff1bdb946a22368083b3f6
https://gyazo.com/4caddae26435e88780d22d7102123b2f
https://gyazo.com/3bb30abfb9346a86d399a8f88381f22d
https://gyazo.com/eb8ba861b8cfd078e458f02e365dbec9
come catch this ft7 hoe ass prideful "im a 93 but i havent dominated since 2013" ass bitch LOLLLLL
everyone says the 12th would be unbeatable yet they reformed under the 2ndQF a year ago and the 2pp (57th/45e) smacked them 6-4 when key players such as me werent even there LOL
if they are so good the 2ndQF wouldve swept all competition no doubt
"they werent in their prime" but it's the same group of guys with additions too they should be able to pull it off
ap0c if you really are a 93 rated on the all time how'd you get 5-0'd by these goofies LOLOL ive seen ghost comeback after 6 months and top groupfights yet hes rated below you like wtf? if you're so good how come you cant unrust as fast as the other top NA's?
1. 2 Years is alot more than 6 months.
2. Anthony was having an awful day. He didn't get a single frag.
that's a lie you came back for 58e under the smite name Anhur you were gone at most 1.5 years (stretching it) and you even joined the 3eVolt at one point
6 months compared to 2 years is essentially the same thing, both are long periods of time and rust settles in usually after a month, do you have some rust calculator that demonstrates a slope of degrading melee skill following periods of absence from the game or something ap0c? LMFAO
so if i quit the game for 1 month ill have more skill compared to quitting for 2 months? lmao what noob
https://gyazo.com/4379a29c6790f03dbb82e16b8cf255d0
if you're such a "tough duelist" to go against how come you get hammered on NW everytime I see you like LOOOOOL ap0c come on man there's 85's right now who could demolish you in groupfighting or dueling and they play way more hours less than you do yet theyre much more successful
Who- came back after a year's absence and topped a groupfight how come i dont see you doing those yet you're a "93" rated all time? like what LMAO
58e was like mid 2016. I came back...in mid 2018. Thats 2 years. I didn't even play actively at all back then either. I got on for LBs every now and then (didnt even go to all of them) thats literally it.
Whats more impressive is there are players like you who are shit for years randomly get full of themselves when everyone good quits and then decide they are good.
Apoc you've been a pussy even back then because I've been around since 12th days, and you were ducking the ft7 all the fucking time, and on the NA GF server I saw you fight, and you were shit. I never got why you or Havoc have the authority to make a list, when you both are shit. At least Suns duels everybody, and has the balls to call people out. You've also been avoiding my past posts, and that just proves your a big bitch.
Motherfucker, everybody knows who Dante is. Suns will tell you who I am. Suns will VOUCH for me that I was a beast for my 600 hours and I'm hour for hour #1 and we'll both beat your ass even in your prime. You sucked. In your hour class, Tammo, Maple, Pinoy etc. All owned you. You are never mentioned. Gtfo.
Lol I remember when you were some 12th Groupie. I didn't FT7 you because not only did you not challenge me, you didn't even leave enough impression on me to want to FT7 you.
I avoid your posts because you spout the same shit as Bill and Matt. Its old memes, and its low tier shit posts.
all these old heads talkin shit on here can ft7 me whenever they want, you’ll share the same fate as “boywonder” maple. Also apoc thought he’d come back and get invited to the tournament but just got shit on lmao... why is this fuckin rustbucket making lists
LMFAO i remember maple going on na gf "oatmeal ft7" "ok"
10 minutes later "7-4 gg" "i wasnt trying" "you challenged me bitch" LOOOOOOOOLSpoilerap0c if you really are a 93 rated on the all time how'd you get 5-0'd by these goofies LOLOL ive seen ghost comeback after 6 months and top groupfights yet hes rated below you like wtf? if you're so good how come you cant unrust as fast as the other top NA's?
1. 2 Years is alot more than 6 months.
2. Anthony was having an awful day. He didn't get a single frag.
that's a lie you came back for 58e under the smite name Anhur you were gone at most 1.5 years (stretching it) and you even joined the 3eVolt at one point
6 months compared to 2 years is essentially the same thing, both are long periods of time and rust settles in usually after a month, do you have some rust calculator that demonstrates a slope of degrading melee skill following periods of absence from the game or something ap0c? LMFAO
so if i quit the game for 1 month ill have more skill compared to quitting for 2 months? lmao what noob
https://gyazo.com/4379a29c6790f03dbb82e16b8cf255d0
if you're such a "tough duelist" to go against how come you get hammered on NW everytime I see you like LOOOOOL ap0c come on man there's 85's right now who could demolish you in groupfighting or dueling and they play way more hours less than you do yet theyre much more successful
Who- came back after a year's absence and topped a groupfight how come i dont see you doing those yet you're a "93" rated all time? like what LMAO
58e was like mid 2016. I came back...in mid 2018. Thats 2 years. I didn't even play actively at all back then either. I got on for LBs every now and then (didnt even go to all of them) thats literally it.
Whats more impressive is there are players like you who are shit for years randomly get full of themselves when everyone good quits and then decide they are good.[close]
yo apoc i bet you wouldn't be able to do stuff i have done i 7-6'd godfreid last ft7 and he's one of the "old players" who hasn't quit the game the past couple of years and somehow im shit? he's a 92 LOLOOOOOL
how am i shit and full of myself if you rate yourself at 93 yet you "haven't dominated since 2013" ap0c you rate yourself high above everyone else but you havent even played LMFAO
here are some of my 7-0s from my collection (not entirety)
https://gyazo.com/92dd4bc27d673e3969b2d0af1f64c612
https://gyazo.com/39dfe65a76ff1bdb946a22368083b3f6
https://gyazo.com/4caddae26435e88780d22d7102123b2f
https://gyazo.com/3bb30abfb9346a86d399a8f88381f22d
https://gyazo.com/eb8ba861b8cfd078e458f02e365dbec9
come catch this ft7 hoe ass prideful "im a 93 but i havent dominated since 2013" ass bitch LOLLLLL
Suns none of those ft7's count because your a fucking pussy using an alias. Why didn't you use your real fucking name? Oh I know why, because all the other times when you got fucked by Maple and other duelists, you could deny it. Get the fuck out of here.
Dueling rule #1: All your duel wins are invalid if you used an alias. Use your real name, and if you lose, then you lost. Don't use a fake name. That's why suns is the biggest pussy besides Apoc and Havoc, the latter is just stupid for not mentioning Dante, but Suns is just a pussy.
this thread is getting spicy right now, i will watch intently
everyone says the 12th would be unbeatable yet they reformed under the 2ndQF a year ago and the 2pp (57th/45e) smacked them 6-4 when key players such as me werent even there LOL
if they are so good the 2ndQF wouldve swept all competition no doubt
"they werent in their prime" but it's the same group of guys with additions too they should be able to pull it offSpoiler(https://i.pinimg.com/600x315/27/30/37/273037f28dc31933b9c79c6dc15714f8.jpg)[close]
yo apoc i bet you wouldn't be able to do stuff i have done i 7-6'd godfreid last ft7 and he's one of the "old players" who hasn't quit the game the past couple of years and somehow im shit? he's a 92 LOLOOOOOL
how am i shit and full of myself if you rate yourself at 93 yet you "haven't dominated since 2013" ap0c you rate yourself high above everyone else but you havent even played LMFAO
here are some of my 7-0s from my collection (not entirety)
https://gyazo.com/92dd4bc27d673e3969b2d0af1f64c612
https://gyazo.com/39dfe65a76ff1bdb946a22368083b3f6
https://gyazo.com/4caddae26435e88780d22d7102123b2f
https://gyazo.com/3bb30abfb9346a86d399a8f88381f22d
https://gyazo.com/eb8ba861b8cfd078e458f02e365dbec9
come catch this ft7 hoe ass prideful "im a 93 but i havent dominated since 2013" ass bitch LOLLLLL
all these old heads talkin shit on here can ft7 me whenever they want, you’ll share the same fate as “boywonder” maple. Also apoc thought he’d come back and get invited to the tournament but just got shit on lmao... why is this fuckin rustbucket making lists
LMFAO i remember maple going on na gf "oatmeal ft7" "ok"
10 minutes later "7-4 gg" "i wasnt trying" "you challenged me bitch" LOOOOOOOOLSpoilerap0c if you really are a 93 rated on the all time how'd you get 5-0'd by these goofies LOLOL ive seen ghost comeback after 6 months and top groupfights yet hes rated below you like wtf? if you're so good how come you cant unrust as fast as the other top NA's?
1. 2 Years is alot more than 6 months.
2. Anthony was having an awful day. He didn't get a single frag.
that's a lie you came back for 58e under the smite name Anhur you were gone at most 1.5 years (stretching it) and you even joined the 3eVolt at one point
6 months compared to 2 years is essentially the same thing, both are long periods of time and rust settles in usually after a month, do you have some rust calculator that demonstrates a slope of degrading melee skill following periods of absence from the game or something ap0c? LMFAO
so if i quit the game for 1 month ill have more skill compared to quitting for 2 months? lmao what noob
https://gyazo.com/4379a29c6790f03dbb82e16b8cf255d0
if you're such a "tough duelist" to go against how come you get hammered on NW everytime I see you like LOOOOOL ap0c come on man there's 85's right now who could demolish you in groupfighting or dueling and they play way more hours less than you do yet theyre much more successful
Who- came back after a year's absence and topped a groupfight how come i dont see you doing those yet you're a "93" rated all time? like what LMAO
58e was like mid 2016. I came back...in mid 2018. Thats 2 years. I didn't even play actively at all back then either. I got on for LBs every now and then (didnt even go to all of them) thats literally it.
Whats more impressive is there are players like you who are shit for years randomly get full of themselves when everyone good quits and then decide they are good.[close]
yo apoc i bet you wouldn't be able to do stuff i have done i 7-6'd godfreid last ft7 and he's one of the "old players" who hasn't quit the game the past couple of years and somehow im shit? he's a 92 LOLOOOOOL
how am i shit and full of myself if you rate yourself at 93 yet you "haven't dominated since 2013" ap0c you rate yourself high above everyone else but you havent even played LMFAO
here are some of my 7-0s from my collection (not entirety)
https://gyazo.com/92dd4bc27d673e3969b2d0af1f64c612
https://gyazo.com/39dfe65a76ff1bdb946a22368083b3f6
https://gyazo.com/4caddae26435e88780d22d7102123b2f
https://gyazo.com/3bb30abfb9346a86d399a8f88381f22d
https://gyazo.com/eb8ba861b8cfd078e458f02e365dbec9
come catch this ft7 hoe ass prideful "im a 93 but i havent dominated since 2013" ass bitch LOLLLLL
Suns none of those ft7's count because your a fucking pussy using an alias. Why didn't you use your real fucking name? Oh I know why, because all the other times when you got fucked by Maple and other duelists, you could deny it. Get the fuck out of here.
Dueling rule #1: All your duel wins are invalid if you used an alias. Use your real name, and if you lose, then you lost. Don't use a fake name. That's why suns is the biggest pussy besides Apoc and Havoc, the latter is just stupid for not mentioning Dante, but Suns is just a pussy.
you're*
uh you weren't here the past year or so but I changed my name to Khamul~ I also used Kampfgruppe~/Gruppekampf~ at one point during the 3eVolt periods everyone knows who I am and im not hiding under any names people call me by both
dude you were just defending me not you're dissing me hoe ass switch up LOL I cucked maple 7-2/7-3/7-4 recently and i 7-6'd and 7-4'd maple in his "prime" in the 3eVolt days
all these old heads talkin shit on here can ft7 me whenever they want, you’ll share the same fate as “boywonder” maple. Also apoc thought he’d come back and get invited to the tournament but just got shit on lmao... why is this fuckin rustbucket making lists
LMFAO i remember maple going on na gf "oatmeal ft7" "ok"
10 minutes later "7-4 gg" "i wasnt trying" "you challenged me bitch" LOOOOOOOOLSpoilerap0c if you really are a 93 rated on the all time how'd you get 5-0'd by these goofies LOLOL ive seen ghost comeback after 6 months and top groupfights yet hes rated below you like wtf? if you're so good how come you cant unrust as fast as the other top NA's?
1. 2 Years is alot more than 6 months.
2. Anthony was having an awful day. He didn't get a single frag.
that's a lie you came back for 58e under the smite name Anhur you were gone at most 1.5 years (stretching it) and you even joined the 3eVolt at one point
6 months compared to 2 years is essentially the same thing, both are long periods of time and rust settles in usually after a month, do you have some rust calculator that demonstrates a slope of degrading melee skill following periods of absence from the game or something ap0c? LMFAO
so if i quit the game for 1 month ill have more skill compared to quitting for 2 months? lmao what noob
https://gyazo.com/4379a29c6790f03dbb82e16b8cf255d0
if you're such a "tough duelist" to go against how come you get hammered on NW everytime I see you like LOOOOOL ap0c come on man there's 85's right now who could demolish you in groupfighting or dueling and they play way more hours less than you do yet theyre much more successful
Who- came back after a year's absence and topped a groupfight how come i dont see you doing those yet you're a "93" rated all time? like what LMAO
58e was like mid 2016. I came back...in mid 2018. Thats 2 years. I didn't even play actively at all back then either. I got on for LBs every now and then (didnt even go to all of them) thats literally it.
Whats more impressive is there are players like you who are shit for years randomly get full of themselves when everyone good quits and then decide they are good.[close]
yo apoc i bet you wouldn't be able to do stuff i have done i 7-6'd godfreid last ft7 and he's one of the "old players" who hasn't quit the game the past couple of years and somehow im shit? he's a 92 LOLOOOOOL
how am i shit and full of myself if you rate yourself at 93 yet you "haven't dominated since 2013" ap0c you rate yourself high above everyone else but you havent even played LMFAO
here are some of my 7-0s from my collection (not entirety)
https://gyazo.com/92dd4bc27d673e3969b2d0af1f64c612
https://gyazo.com/39dfe65a76ff1bdb946a22368083b3f6
https://gyazo.com/4caddae26435e88780d22d7102123b2f
https://gyazo.com/3bb30abfb9346a86d399a8f88381f22d
https://gyazo.com/eb8ba861b8cfd078e458f02e365dbec9
come catch this ft7 hoe ass prideful "im a 93 but i havent dominated since 2013" ass bitch LOLLLLL
yo apoc i bet you wouldn't be able to do stuff i have done i 7-6'd godfreid last ft7 and he's one of the "old players" who hasn't quit the game the past couple of years and somehow im shit? he's a 92 LOLOOOOOL
Lol tf? Are you trying to imply ive never beaten Godfreid in an ft7? Is that your crowning achievement?
Also, Godfreid hardly counts as an old player in the context you are using it as. Yeah, he has played since the early days, but he didn't really ever focus on getting good til like after the double x got removed.
But you know why hes a 92 and you aren't? Cause he actually wins tournaments. He doesn't need to screenshot every little thing he does to prove he is half decent.Quotehow am i shit and full of myself if you rate yourself at 93 yet you "haven't dominated since 2013" ap0c you rate yourself high above everyone else but you havent even played LMFAO
here are some of my 7-0s from my collection (not entirety)
https://gyazo.com/92dd4bc27d673e3969b2d0af1f64c612
https://gyazo.com/39dfe65a76ff1bdb946a22368083b3f6
https://gyazo.com/4caddae26435e88780d22d7102123b2f
https://gyazo.com/3bb30abfb9346a86d399a8f88381f22d
https://gyazo.com/eb8ba861b8cfd078e458f02e365dbec9
come catch this ft7 hoe ass prideful "im a 93 but i havent dominated since 2013" ass bitch LOLLLLL
This is exactly why you are shit and full of yourself. You need to screenshot every little thing you do. You know why me, and alot of old players, didn't screenshot all our FT7s and groupfighting? Because we didn't have to prove anything. Sorry you have to compensate.
everyone says the 12th would be unbeatable yet they reformed under the 2ndQF a year ago and the 2pp (57th/45e) smacked them 6-4 when key players such as me werent even there LOL
if they are so good the 2ndQF wouldve swept all competition no doubt
"they werent in their prime" but it's the same group of guys with additions too they should be able to pull it offSpoiler(https://i.pinimg.com/600x315/27/30/37/273037f28dc31933b9c79c6dc15714f8.jpg)[close]
yo vetro fatass hoe ass bitch ass snake ass lying ass hacking ass bitch why dont you go back to the old melee list and continue begging dan and I to boost your melee rating? LMFAO
Jesus who actually reads all this it’s like a novel
"Groupie" What the fuck are you talking about? This isn't a fucking concert you dumb ass bitch. You didn't ft7 me because you're a PUSSY! That is why. You fucking suck, and you would get embarrassed by a guy with 600 hours. If you were so confident you should've challenged me and "won" but you didn't so you are now talking out of your ass. There are no memes, your NW career is a MEME. You are LOW tier.
everyone says the 12th would be unbeatable yet they reformed under the 2ndQF a year ago and the 2pp (57th/45e) smacked them 6-4 when key players such as me werent even there LOLFrom being someone who played against the 12th, a few if not multiple times, I can say the actual 12th was by far the best regiment of its time and were much better than their counterparts. There wasn't as much recognition back then for being a god tier melee because it was the start of 7NA groupfighting (NA GF of our time) and the 12th even before that were able to out melee anyone and any group that tried to touch them. The 12th came back as the 18th and went to the TNWL finals and the 75th barely scraped by. They created many players we know today, ffs the 71st is jack shit without the 12th's disband. If jackie and them had not joined the 71st after they never would have became the force they were today. If the 12th hadn't been the regiment that everyone wanted to beat then no one would strive to be that good. I believed like you at 1 time until I faced the 12th my first time and I saw their pure dominance over the NA scene at the time. I believe the 12th deserve to be up there for multiple reasons, they were one of the only great disciplined regiments back then, they ruled for years, and they definitely a force to reckon with. Though the game is getting older and many players do not remember the power of the 12th, they by far are still one of the true creators of competitive NW. The 12th are much better than any group on this list. If we could take every player back then in 2013 and bring them too now and let them continue playing and be warm, they would still be 10-0ing everyone that got in their way, or 3-0 back in that time.
if they are so good the 2ndQF wouldve swept all competition no doubt
"they werent in their prime" but it's the same group of guys with additions too they should be able to pull it off
yo apoc i bet you wouldn't be able to do stuff i have done i 7-6'd godfreid last ft7 and he's one of the "old players" who hasn't quit the game the past couple of years and somehow im shit? he's a 92 LOLOOOOOL
Lol tf? Are you trying to imply ive never beaten Godfreid in an ft7? Is that your crowning achievement?
Also, Godfreid hardly counts as an old player in the context you are using it as. Yeah, he has played since the early days, but he didn't really ever focus on getting good til like after the double x got removed.
But you know why hes a 92 and you aren't? Cause he actually wins tournaments. He doesn't need to screenshot every little thing he does to prove he is half decent.Quotehow am i shit and full of myself if you rate yourself at 93 yet you "haven't dominated since 2013" ap0c you rate yourself high above everyone else but you havent even played LMFAO
here are some of my 7-0s from my collection (not entirety)
https://gyazo.com/92dd4bc27d673e3969b2d0af1f64c612
https://gyazo.com/39dfe65a76ff1bdb946a22368083b3f6
https://gyazo.com/4caddae26435e88780d22d7102123b2f
https://gyazo.com/3bb30abfb9346a86d399a8f88381f22d
https://gyazo.com/eb8ba861b8cfd078e458f02e365dbec9
come catch this ft7 hoe ass prideful "im a 93 but i havent dominated since 2013" ass bitch LOLLLLL
This is exactly why you are shit and full of yourself. You need to screenshot every little thing you do. You know why me, and alot of old players, didn't screenshot all our FT7s and groupfighting? Because we didn't have to prove anything. Sorry you have to compensate.
everyone says the 12th would be unbeatable yet they reformed under the 2ndQF a year ago and the 2pp (57th/45e) smacked them 6-4 when key players such as me werent even there LOLFrom being someone who played against the 12th, a few if not multiple times, I can say the actual 12th was by far the best regiment of its time and were much better than their counterparts. There wasn't as much recognition back then for being a god tier melee because it was the start of 7NA groupfighting (NA GF of our time) and the 12th even before that were able to out melee anyone and any group that tried to touch them. The 12th came back as the 18th and went to the TNWL finals and the 75th barely scraped by. They created many players we know today, ffs the 71st is jack shit without the 12th's disband. If jackie and them had not joined the 71st after they never would have became the force they were today. If the 12th hadn't been the regiment that everyone wanted to beat then no one would strive to be that good. I believed like you at 1 time until I faced the 12th my first time and I saw their pure dominance over the NA scene at the time. I believe the 12th deserve to be up there for multiple reasons, they were one of the only great disciplined regiments back then, they ruled for years, and they definitely a force to reckon with. Though the game is getting older and many players do not remember the power of the 12th, they by far are still one of the true creators of competitive NW. The 12th are much better than any group on this list. If we could take every player back then in 2013 and bring them too now and let them continue playing and be warm, they would still be 10-0ing everyone that got in their way, or 3-0 back in that time.
if they are so good the 2ndQF wouldve swept all competition no doubt
"they werent in their prime" but it's the same group of guys with additions too they should be able to pull it off
"Groupie" What the fuck are you talking about? This isn't a fucking concert you dumb ass bitch. You didn't ft7 me because you're a PUSSY! That is why. You fucking suck, and you would get embarrassed by a guy with 600 hours. If you were so confident you should've challenged me and "won" but you didn't so you are now talking out of your ass. There are no memes, your NW career is a MEME. You are LOW tier.
I don't think I should have challenged you. I had no reason to. You were bad.
You were so bad that not even your own regiment remembers you. Im in TS with Ghost and Who- right now and they didn't even remember who you were.
If that isn't low tier, I don't know what is.
everyone says the 12th would be unbeatable yet they reformed under the 2ndQF a year ago and the 2pp (57th/45e) smacked them 6-4 when key players such as me werent even there LOL
if they are so good the 2ndQF wouldve swept all competition no doubt
"they werent in their prime" but it's the same group of guys with additions too they should be able to pull it offSpoiler(https://i.pinimg.com/600x315/27/30/37/273037f28dc31933b9c79c6dc15714f8.jpg)[close]
yo vetro fatass hoe ass bitch ass snake ass lying ass hacking ass bitch why dont you go back to the old melee list and continue begging dan and I to boost your melee rating? LMFAO
Why do you gotta bully somebody and call them fat? What does their physical characteristics have to do with anything? Don't be posting shit just to be a bully because then you'll just come off as a dumbass. When I talk shit I call people bitches and bums, because that's their behavior, such as Apoc being a pussy for denying greatness. He isn't shit, but I don't call the man fat. I don't attack his physical appearance. You just don't do that. Don't be a piece of shit, okay?
I may not remember you but you seem like a legend"Groupie" What the fuck are you talking about? This isn't a fucking concert you dumb ass bitch. You didn't ft7 me because you're a PUSSY! That is why. You fucking suck, and you would get embarrassed by a guy with 600 hours. If you were so confident you should've challenged me and "won" but you didn't so you are now talking out of your ass. There are no memes, your NW career is a MEME. You are LOW tier.
I don't think I should have challenged you. I had no reason to. You were bad.
You were so bad that not even your own regiment remembers you. Im in TS with Ghost and Who- right now and they didn't even remember who you were.
If that isn't low tier, I don't know what is.
You didn't challenge me because you aren't on my level to challenge me. A fucking hyena can't challenge a lion, he'll get fucked. That is you, trying to challenge me. Ghost and Who are OLD as fuck. I only knew them in the 12th, after that I didn't have contact with them. When I joined the 12th I was a rookie, these guys were way older. So you found 2 guys, yet AsianP, Pinoy, Maple, Blood, Mexicant, (insert every good player in NW) knows me. I don't even know who the fuck you are honestly, that's why when you and Havoc made this list, I was like who the fuck are these guys? If a good player made it, I'd understand, but I wouldn't even let you in my TS channel man. You aren't worthy. You are not a good player, you are just a guy who has 2000 hours and feels entitled to spew some shit and hoping the other sheep listen. Sit down and relax, don't lose your forum rank, because your NW rank is nonexistent. (Apoc's career done)
Spoileryo apoc i bet you wouldn't be able to do stuff i have done i 7-6'd godfreid last ft7 and he's one of the "old players" who hasn't quit the game the past couple of years and somehow im shit? he's a 92 LOLOOOOOL
Lol tf? Are you trying to imply ive never beaten Godfreid in an ft7? Is that your crowning achievement?
Also, Godfreid hardly counts as an old player in the context you are using it as. Yeah, he has played since the early days, but he didn't really ever focus on getting good til like after the double x got removed.
But you know why hes a 92 and you aren't? Cause he actually wins tournaments. He doesn't need to screenshot every little thing he does to prove he is half decent.Quotehow am i shit and full of myself if you rate yourself at 93 yet you "haven't dominated since 2013" ap0c you rate yourself high above everyone else but you havent even played LMFAO
here are some of my 7-0s from my collection (not entirety)
https://gyazo.com/92dd4bc27d673e3969b2d0af1f64c612
https://gyazo.com/39dfe65a76ff1bdb946a22368083b3f6
https://gyazo.com/4caddae26435e88780d22d7102123b2f
https://gyazo.com/3bb30abfb9346a86d399a8f88381f22d
https://gyazo.com/eb8ba861b8cfd078e458f02e365dbec9
come catch this ft7 hoe ass prideful "im a 93 but i havent dominated since 2013" ass bitch LOLLLLL
This is exactly why you are shit and full of yourself. You need to screenshot every little thing you do. You know why me, and alot of old players, didn't screenshot all our FT7s and groupfighting? Because we didn't have to prove anything. Sorry you have to compensate.[close]
i don't screenshot these FT7s as you assume for my "e-peen" or "ego" I solely screenshot these for further reference with the intent to troll people, as on NW it's extremely easy to call someone out like you on their melee rating which is biased and you react in a way such as this.
comedic isn't it? LOOOOOL
i've won tournaments lmfao i tried to show up to the past two duel tournaments recently but i was busy on both days i would like to show up to these but sometimes irl stuff takes me away
https://challonge.com/32dtdg35 - 2nd
https://challonge.com/mattduel14 - 1st
https://challonge.com/jctctrq0 - 1st
i've even won the 3eVolt CplFoP tournies multiple times during all of the 3eVolt reforms/periods
you asked me how ive never beaten anyone good because all the older players have left and quit the game, i give you an example and you shoot it down as irrelevant or false because you know i'm right LOL
how does screenshotting 7-0s prove to others how im good? if i 7-0d them im clearly the better player and they are outmatched
hell i even did better than you on Bill, I 7-2'd him just by kicking (not turkish kicks i actually aim with these) and this was when Bill was considered "good" and not "rusty"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abDw_RzqFb0
You nerd I was the 5th and in the 3eVolt and etc.I may not remember you but you seem like a legend"Groupie" What the fuck are you talking about? This isn't a fucking concert you dumb ass bitch. You didn't ft7 me because you're a PUSSY! That is why. You fucking suck, and you would get embarrassed by a guy with 600 hours. If you were so confident you should've challenged me and "won" but you didn't so you are now talking out of your ass. There are no memes, your NW career is a MEME. You are LOW tier.
I don't think I should have challenged you. I had no reason to. You were bad.
You were so bad that not even your own regiment remembers you. Im in TS with Ghost and Who- right now and they didn't even remember who you were.
If that isn't low tier, I don't know what is.
You didn't challenge me because you aren't on my level to challenge me. A fucking hyena can't challenge a lion, he'll get fucked. That is you, trying to challenge me. Ghost and Who are OLD as fuck. I only knew them in the 12th, after that I didn't have contact with them. When I joined the 12th I was a rookie, these guys were way older. So you found 2 guys, yet AsianP, Pinoy, Maple, Blood, Mexicant, (insert every good player in NW) knows me. I don't even know who the fuck you are honestly, that's why when you and Havoc made this list, I was like who the fuck are these guys? If a good player made it, I'd understand, but I wouldn't even let you in my TS channel man. You aren't worthy. You are not a good player, you are just a guy who has 2000 hours and feels entitled to spew some shit and hoping the other sheep listen. Sit down and relax, don't lose your forum rank, because your NW rank is nonexistent. (Apoc's career done)
"Groupie" What the fuck are you talking about? This isn't a fucking concert you dumb ass bitch. You didn't ft7 me because you're a PUSSY! That is why. You fucking suck, and you would get embarrassed by a guy with 600 hours. If you were so confident you should've challenged me and "won" but you didn't so you are now talking out of your ass. There are no memes, your NW career is a MEME. You are LOW tier.
I don't think I should have challenged you. I had no reason to. You were bad.
You were so bad that not even your own regiment remembers you. Im in TS with Ghost and Who- right now and they didn't even remember who you were.
If that isn't low tier, I don't know what is.
You didn't challenge me because you aren't on my level to challenge me. A fucking hyena can't challenge a lion, he'll get fucked. That is you, trying to challenge me. Ghost and Who are OLD as fuck. I only knew them in the 12th, after that I didn't have contact with them. When I joined the 12th I was a rookie, these guys were way older. So you found 2 guys, yet AsianP, Pinoy, Maple, Blood, Mexicant, (insert every good player in NW) knows me. I don't even know who the fuck you are honestly, that's why when you and Havoc made this list, I was like who the fuck are these guys? If a good player made it, I'd understand, but I wouldn't even let you in my TS channel man. You aren't worthy. You are not a good player, you are just a guy who has 2000 hours and feels entitled to spew some shit and hoping the other sheep listen. Sit down and relax, don't lose your forum rank, because your NW rank is nonexistent. (Apoc's career done)
Fuck this thread. Go to my thread on how to get laid. You motherfuckers need to read that shit! :P
wrong tingdont worry i remember you
Shhhhhhh i saw ()()()() and thought it was MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYou nerd I was the 5th and in the 3eVolt and etc.I may not remember you but you seem like a legend"Groupie" What the fuck are you talking about? This isn't a fucking concert you dumb ass bitch. You didn't ft7 me because you're a PUSSY! That is why. You fucking suck, and you would get embarrassed by a guy with 600 hours. If you were so confident you should've challenged me and "won" but you didn't so you are now talking out of your ass. There are no memes, your NW career is a MEME. You are LOW tier.
I don't think I should have challenged you. I had no reason to. You were bad.
You were so bad that not even your own regiment remembers you. Im in TS with Ghost and Who- right now and they didn't even remember who you were.
If that isn't low tier, I don't know what is.
You didn't challenge me because you aren't on my level to challenge me. A fucking hyena can't challenge a lion, he'll get fucked. That is you, trying to challenge me. Ghost and Who are OLD as fuck. I only knew them in the 12th, after that I didn't have contact with them. When I joined the 12th I was a rookie, these guys were way older. So you found 2 guys, yet AsianP, Pinoy, Maple, Blood, Mexicant, (insert every good player in NW) knows me. I don't even know who the fuck you are honestly, that's why when you and Havoc made this list, I was like who the fuck are these guys? If a good player made it, I'd understand, but I wouldn't even let you in my TS channel man. You aren't worthy. You are not a good player, you are just a guy who has 2000 hours and feels entitled to spew some shit and hoping the other sheep listen. Sit down and relax, don't lose your forum rank, because your NW rank is nonexistent. (Apoc's career done)
He quoted Dante... not you... relax. Your epeen is still fine
<3wrong tingdont worry i remember you
SpoilerLeagues LG has won or finished 2nd in: LG has been around for over a year and couple of months and won NANWL (With little competition besides 57th of course), NAPL S2(Beat 3eVolt). LG was 2nd place in NAPL S1 (6te should of won it cuz of course we r3kt LG in melee in the 2nd half but 30th won it) and then RGL 2nd place (3e had more skilled players then LG did at the match and people under performed like myself).
Melee Tournaments LG has won: Melee tournaments won by LG - 6x 1st Place & 2x 2nd Place.SpoilerMaccles Second 2v2 Tournament - Wastee & Sanders - 1st Place
Liquids 4v4 Tournament - Wastee, RussianFury, NickCole, Theodin - 1st Place
Dan's Ultimate Gfing Tournament Part IV - Wastee, RussianFury, NickCole, Yoshie, Bill - 1st Place
Orcaryo's 7v7 Tournament - Wastee, RussianFury, NickCole, Yoshie, Bill, Rafael, Jorge - 1st Place
Lawbringers 3v3 Tournament - Wastee, RussianFury, Yoshie - 1st Place
NA Gold 5v5 Groupfighting League Season 2 - Wastee, RussianFury, Yoshie, Rafael, DJ, Havoc - 1st Place
NickColes 4v4 Tournament - Wastee, RussianFury, Yoshie, Jorge - 2nd Place
Ultimate Groupfighting Tournament Part VII - Wastee, Yoshie, Rafael, Russianfury - 2nd Place[close]
Requirements to be a HoF Regiment: From what I see to be a HoF regiment you need League and Tournament wins, how long the regiment was top or top tier during their time, out of all their 1v1 & GF wins how many were against the best regiments at the time, and their best lineup compared to others all-time (correct me if I am wrong). I already shown you the league and tournament wins, LG been around since late 2016 - early 2018 (I am estimating) and was top of NA easily for the majority of the time it was around, 32e (10-0 in GF & 2-0 in 1v1s), 45e/57th(3-0 in GF & 2W - 1T), 3eVolt(7-10 in GF & 1-1-3 I will take Godfreid word for this), and 63e(GF 5-1 in GF & 1-1 in 1v1s), and this is LG total roster from both LG & 45e people (I believe the combined roster can compete with any of the all-time regiments).&LG guys non 45eOberst RussianFury
Oberst-Lt Wastee
Lt Yoshiee
Uffz Theodin
Uffz Boob
Uffz Glenn
Uffz CluelessWill
Uffz Orcaryo
Kpl Jorge
Kpl NickCole
Kpl Bauer
Kpl Roggeh
S-Gefr Swerp
O-Gefr Predurrdurr
O-Gefr Nevino
Gefr Matt
Gefr Oatmeal
Gefr Domino
Gefr Gandalf
Gefr Dom13
Gefr Wiki
Gefr Gi
Gefr Saltyy
Gefr Lurvy
Gefr Tacoman
Gefr Havoc
Gren Purplish
Gren Kristine
Gren Min
Gren Elite
Gren Free2u2
Gren Price
Gren Rothgar
Gren That_Guy
Gren Essex
Gren Dyre
Gren Fern
Gren Sandi
Gren Kairo
Gren Zappy
Gren Unitatier
Gren Vader
Gren Voodoo
Gren JihadJay
Gren Sharing
Gren Cwater
Gren Pooba/Boz
Gren Skitty
Gren Headshot
Gren Rico
Gren Murman
Gren YoloSwag
Gren Colonys22
Gren Darkenmal
Gren Dickhardrock
Gren Jaax
Gren James
Gren Bunnies
Gren Shampoopy
Gren Holborn
Gren Whalefish
Fus BillTheButcher
Fus Rey Mysterio (fireboy)
Fus SkyZ
Fus DanMan
Fus Crocodile
Fus Tacoboy
Fus Maniac
Fus Tucker
Fus Luis
Fus Alexander (the retarded one)
Fus Cheeseypants
Fus Chalres123
Fus Gman
Fus Eazy-E
Fus Pieter
Fus Ogrelord
Fus Porkins
Fus Hando
Fus Foddy
Fus Kalashnikov
Fus Hurstey
Fus HNDRXX
Fus Baptiste
Fus Rogelio
Fus skinny
Fus Aporta
Fus EasterCow
Fus Beansacks
Chef Dan (he can’t make anything)[close]45e guys addedFahn Rafael
Fwbl Dj OverJoy
MUffz Killershark
Gefr Pinoy
Gren Hawkince
Gren Gul
Gren Pedro
Gren TerribleTim
Gren Archer
Gren Asuna
Gren Charles
Gren Chantakey
Gren Fox
Gren Suns
Gren Wall
Fus Mattboi
Fus Operus
Fus Dukers
Fus Ian
Fus Shepard
Fus Gul
Fus Montoytoy
Fus Badger[close]
Based on the resume LG has I believe should be in the regiment HoF (I think 5th/75th should aswell). I get people will argue that NA was small and there was only 2 regiments good at the time however, LG was better than everyone until 3eVolt reform and kept going back and forth with them. LG dominated the tournament scene in 2017 until they lost to SoF in the 4v4 (ez pz) but still finished top 2 in 8 melee tournaments in a 6-10 month span. Something we haven't seen since 12th, 63e, & 71st, etc. did it back in the day. How can you put regiments like 9y & 1stFKI for not winning any leagues (I'm not saying they shouldn't be in the regiment HoF) and not the LG. People that dislike LG will say that we wasn't top NA that long since 3eVolt was overall better in 2017 but the fact that LG went back and forth with a HoF regiment (3eVolt) and beat them in NAPL should give LG even a stronger reason to be in the regiment HoF. 3eVolt bias n3rds will say LG needed a stack to beat 3eVolt but almost every HoF regiment had melee stacks (except 63e) so why should that factor even matter??? In addition, people that say there was no competition should realize that for the past 3-4 years for the most part there has been 2 or 3 regiment each year that has been better than everyone else (like 71st, 63e, 58e, 3eVolt to name a few) because most of the good players always join the top regiments at the time instead of helping lower tier regiments to become good (like myself). So the "no competition" excuse shouldn't even matter since the top regiments of the past 3-4 years had little or no competition in their reign because they were just simply better than everyone else.
I made this post to try and show why LG deserves a spot in the HoF. If you are going to have a community list for all time melee, regiments, leaders, etc. you need to at least update it and put people or regiments on there that deserve it.[close]
I don't think there were any leagues around when 9y existed lol, but 2teGarde I think would be a close example of how they would've done Agreed
It's not just that the regiments that existed in late 2016-2017 weren't good (they were decent) it's that for most of LG's existence, outside of groupfights, they weren't as unbeatable as the other Hall of Fame regiments were during their reigns. Even before the 3eVolt reformed, LG took losses to 63e, 4th, Sil, 6te tied with USMC and 30th, had multiple close (6-4) matches against regiments like 32e and 30th etc. Okay 12th, 9y, 71st most likely since they were just fulled with melee stacks. You have to also release that leading is way different from back in the day when it was alot simpler. LG had ties or 6-4 wins because the other regiments camped the fuck out of us. I remember 2ndQF vs 45e/2pp and 2pp won 6-4 because 2ndQF leading was horrible as an example of old regiment trying to come back with some of its old guys and losing to a current regiment.
And the 4th who were objectively garbage at that time managed to put up wins and ties against almost all those regiments, even with the players those regiments got from 1er. The level of competition at the time was just bad.I agree the competition wasn't great but if the LG did bad would we even talk about them being good right now??
Also no, the 3eVolt from 2017 isn't the same 3eVolt that's in the Hall of Fame, so saying LG went back and forth with a Hall of Fame regiment is inaccurate (and even still back forth is a bit of a stretch if you actually look at the records).Yeh the old 3eVolt is different but the LG has alot of old players aswell that can do well against the old 3eVolt.
If the other Hall of Fame regiments had been around during that time in place of the LG, they would have swept the competition completely, without a doubt. Of course if you put all the HoF regiments top 30 against current regs of course but you are still making a stupid excuse using HoF regiments are better than LG to not put them in the HoF. LG top 30 can compete against any HoF regiment.
It's like putting a Major League team against 5 minor league teams, and saying it was one of the best Major League teams after its beaten them. I just don't get it.No
LG was a good regiment, but I still don't see any reason for it to be placed among the best regiments of all time.So LG wins more tournaments and same amount of leagues as 3e did in a 6 year span and not in the HoF?? #LG4HoF
Can we all agree that we have better things to do than argue about dead regs' and washed up players at 3 am on a Tuesday?
Can we all agree that we have better things to do than argue about dead regs' and washed up players at 3 am on a Tuesday?
Yes, read my guide on how to get laid.
everyone says the 12th would be unbeatable yet they reformed under the 2ndQF a year ago and the 2pp (57th/45e) smacked them 6-4 when key players such as me werent even there LOLFrom being someone who played against the 12th, a few if not multiple times, I can say the actual 12th was by far the best regiment of its time and were much better than their counterparts. There wasn't as much recognition back then for being a god tier melee because it was the start of 7NA groupfighting (NA GF of our time) and the 12th even before that were able to out melee anyone and any group that tried to touch them. The 12th came back as the 18th and went to the TNWL finals and the 75th barely scraped by. They created many players we know today, ffs the 71st is jack shit without the 12th's disband. If jackie and them had not joined the 71st after they never would have became the force they were today. If the 12th hadn't been the regiment that everyone wanted to beat then no one would strive to be that good. I believed like you at 1 time until I faced the 12th my first time and I saw their pure dominance over the NA scene at the time. I believe the 12th deserve to be up there for multiple reasons, they were one of the only great disciplined regiments back then, they ruled for years, and they definitely a force to reckon with. Though the game is getting older and many players do not remember the power of the 12th, they by far are still one of the true creators of competitive NW. The 12th are much better than any group on this list. If we could take every player back then in 2013 and bring them too now and let them continue playing and be warm, they would still be 10-0ing everyone that got in their way, or 3-0 back in that time.
if they are so good the 2ndQF wouldve swept all competition no doubt
"they werent in their prime" but it's the same group of guys with additions too they should be able to pull it off
yeah but 9y was trollier.everyone says the 12th would be unbeatable yet they reformed under the 2ndQF a year ago and the 2pp (57th/45e) smacked them 6-4 when key players such as me werent even there LOLFrom being someone who played against the 12th, a few if not multiple times, I can say the actual 12th was by far the best regiment of its time and were much better than their counterparts. There wasn't as much recognition back then for being a god tier melee because it was the start of 7NA groupfighting (NA GF of our time) and the 12th even before that were able to out melee anyone and any group that tried to touch them. The 12th came back as the 18th and went to the TNWL finals and the 75th barely scraped by. They created many players we know today, ffs the 71st is jack shit without the 12th's disband. If jackie and them had not joined the 71st after they never would have became the force they were today. If the 12th hadn't been the regiment that everyone wanted to beat then no one would strive to be that good. I believed like you at 1 time until I faced the 12th my first time and I saw their pure dominance over the NA scene at the time. I believe the 12th deserve to be up there for multiple reasons, they were one of the only great disciplined regiments back then, they ruled for years, and they definitely a force to reckon with. Though the game is getting older and many players do not remember the power of the 12th, they by far are still one of the true creators of competitive NW. The 12th are much better than any group on this list. If we could take every player back then in 2013 and bring them too now and let them continue playing and be warm, they would still be 10-0ing everyone that got in their way, or 3-0 back in that time.
if they are so good the 2ndQF wouldve swept all competition no doubt
"they werent in their prime" but it's the same group of guys with additions too they should be able to pull it off
Chantakey speaking a lot of truth
I'll say though the thing to remember is the average skill level of the community is constantly rising. I don't think the prime regiments of 2011-2015 would have a good time fighting current day regiments. However you should look at skill as relative and not absolute. The 12th were the first ones to figure the competitive scene out, and they paved the way for all regiments to follow. Would they hold up today? Probably not, but is that because the players are not skilled enough? No, it's that skill rises in parallel with the level of competition and people you practice with.
Bannerlord NW will be interesting, all old gens regiments will return and we will see which ones still have it in them when they put in the hours.
Only thing confusing me is people calling the 12th disciplined. They were the trolls of the day, lol. Though the bar for trolling was a lot lower back then
Maccle would easily destroy you.
can we all just agree that the 26e was the best regiment to ever touch this game?
Maccle would easily destroy you.
Pffft.
There is literally a youtube video of me like 7-2ing Maccle on his youtube channel.
Also, you are misunderstanding something. I didn't rate myself 93. Notice how theres no arrows by name? I was there on Grimsight's list, I just didn't move myself. Because unlike you, I don't need to scream from the rooftops about how good I am for people to know.
Anyways, I am done with your low-tier shit-talking for now as well.
Maccle would easily destroy you.
Pffft.
There is literally a youtube video of me like 7-2ing Maccle on his youtube channel.
Also, you are misunderstanding something. I didn't rate myself 93. Notice how theres no arrows by name? I was there on Grimsight's list, I just didn't move myself. Because unlike you, I don't need to scream from the rooftops about how good I am for people to know.
Anyways, I am done with your low-tier shit-talking for now as well.
LOLLLL so you finally choose to address my point then decide to dodge me like you dodging current day FT7s, nowadays you against a rusty maccle who hasnt played the game like you the past few months/years would easily destroy you was my point, i recently 7-2'd maccle 2 months ago and he still put up a fight considering he doesnt even play the game anymore
whens the date and time of this supposed 7-2?
i just like pointing out the over-inflated egos of the old gens who dont even play the game and think they made substantial impacts in the melee when their "impact" was negligible
everyone says the 12th would be unbeatable yet they reformed under the 2ndQF a year ago and the 2pp (57th/45e) smacked them 6-4 when key players such as me werent even there LOL
if they are so good the 2ndQF wouldve swept all competition no doubt
"they werent in their prime" but it's the same group of guys with additions too they should be able to pull it offSpoiler(https://i.pinimg.com/600x315/27/30/37/273037f28dc31933b9c79c6dc15714f8.jpg)[close]
hmmm October 5th 2016 im sure ap0c "retired" from the game long before that date though, it can't be him he was gone for 2 years and just came back recently :(
so "gone for 2 years" means 2-4 hours per week oh ok mr "i probably have 20 hrs on warband past 2 years"Hey! Don't I know you from some where?... Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
so "gone for 2 years" means 2-4 hours per week oh ok mr "i probably have 20 hrs on warband past 2 years"Hey! Don't I know you from some where... Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
so "gone for 2 years" means 2-4 hours per week oh ok mr "i probably have 20 hrs on warband past 2 years"
You shoot snakes? Shit betta run 024 PANG BOOM CHOWso "gone for 2 years" means 2-4 hours per week oh ok mr "i probably have 20 hrs on warband past 2 years"Hey! Don't I know you from some where... Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
yo vetro dont get caught hacking wit yo unblockable pack you got from movement at night
BA BA BA BA SNAKE DOWN SNAKE DOWN CALL 093 TO BACK HIM UP 045 ON THE LOOSE
so "gone for 2 years" means 2-4 hours per week oh ok mr "i probably have 20 hrs on warband past 2 years"
Oh no, you got me. I probably had more than 20 hours in the past two years. Wow, you got me. You used your detective skills to find out that I probably didn't know exactly how many hours I have had in the past 2 years by getting blown the fuck up when you spouted some shit about some players being able to easily destroy me. Great job. You should take a screenshot of this so you can keep track of how smart of a boy you are. Ill put it on my fridge.
You shoot snakes? Shit betta run 024 PANG BOOM CHOWso "gone for 2 years" means 2-4 hours per week oh ok mr "i probably have 20 hrs on warband past 2 years"Hey! Don't I know you from some where... Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
yo vetro dont get caught hacking wit yo unblockable pack you got from movement at night
BA BA BA BA SNAKE DOWN SNAKE DOWN CALL 093 TO BACK HIM UP 045 ON THE LOOSE
BETTA WATCH YO SHOTS
Oh shit my bad ill leave you be now, ya'll have a goodnight.Spoilerso "gone for 2 years" means 2-4 hours per week oh ok mr "i probably have 20 hrs on warband past 2 years"
Oh no, you got me. I probably had more than 20 hours in the past two years. Wow, you got me. You used your detective skills to find out that I probably didn't know exactly how many hours I have had in the past 2 years by getting blown the fuck up when you spouted some shit about some players being able to easily destroy me. Great job. You should take a screenshot of this so you can keep track of how smart of a boy you are. Ill put it on my fridge.[close]
@ap0c you mean the fridge you lean and cry on after you get memed on for not proving your 93 rating? get your goofy ego boosted ass outta here apoc LMFAOYou shoot snakes? Shit betta run 024 PANG BOOM CHOWso "gone for 2 years" means 2-4 hours per week oh ok mr "i probably have 20 hrs on warband past 2 years"Hey! Don't I know you from some where... Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
yo vetro dont get caught hacking wit yo unblockable pack you got from movement at night
BA BA BA BA SNAKE DOWN SNAKE DOWN CALL 093 TO BACK HIM UP 045 ON THE LOOSE
BETTA WATCH YO SHOTS
yo vetro dont you be asking for smoke little bitch ill have to send 045 archer on your ass again you remember how that went
SpoilerLeagues LG has won or finished 2nd in: LG has been around for over a year and couple of months and won NANWL (With little competition besides 57th of course), NAPL S2(Beat 3eVolt). LG was 2nd place in NAPL S1 (6te should of won it cuz of course we r3kt LG in melee in the 2nd half but 30th won it) and then RGL 2nd place (3e had more skilled players then LG did at the match and people under performed like myself).
Melee Tournaments LG has won: Melee tournaments won by LG - 6x 1st Place & 2x 2nd Place.SpoilerMaccles Second 2v2 Tournament - Wastee & Sanders - 1st Place
Liquids 4v4 Tournament - Wastee, RussianFury, NickCole, Theodin - 1st Place
Dan's Ultimate Gfing Tournament Part IV - Wastee, RussianFury, NickCole, Yoshie, Bill - 1st Place
Orcaryo's 7v7 Tournament - Wastee, RussianFury, NickCole, Yoshie, Bill, Rafael, Jorge - 1st Place
Lawbringers 3v3 Tournament - Wastee, RussianFury, Yoshie - 1st Place
NA Gold 5v5 Groupfighting League Season 2 - Wastee, RussianFury, Yoshie, Rafael, DJ, Havoc - 1st Place
NickColes 4v4 Tournament - Wastee, RussianFury, Yoshie, Jorge - 2nd Place
Ultimate Groupfighting Tournament Part VII - Wastee, Yoshie, Rafael, Russianfury - 2nd Place[close]
Requirements to be a HoF Regiment: From what I see to be a HoF regiment you need League and Tournament wins, how long the regiment was top or top tier during their time, out of all their 1v1 & GF wins how many were against the best regiments at the time, and their best lineup compared to others all-time (correct me if I am wrong). I already shown you the league and tournament wins, LG been around since late 2016 - early 2018 (I am estimating) and was top of NA easily for the majority of the time it was around, 32e (10-0 in GF & 2-0 in 1v1s), 45e/57th(3-0 in GF & 2W - 1T), 3eVolt(7-10 in GF & 1-1-3 I will take Godfreid word for this), and 63e(GF 5-1 in GF & 1-1 in 1v1s), and this is LG total roster from both LG & 45e people (I believe the combined roster can compete with any of the all-time regiments).&LG guys non 45eOberst RussianFury
Oberst-Lt Wastee
Lt Yoshiee
Uffz Theodin
Uffz Boob
Uffz Glenn
Uffz CluelessWill
Uffz Orcaryo
Kpl Jorge
Kpl NickCole
Kpl Bauer
Kpl Roggeh
S-Gefr Swerp
O-Gefr Predurrdurr
O-Gefr Nevino
Gefr Matt
Gefr Oatmeal
Gefr Domino
Gefr Gandalf
Gefr Dom13
Gefr Wiki
Gefr Gi
Gefr Saltyy
Gefr Lurvy
Gefr Tacoman
Gefr Havoc
Gren Purplish
Gren Kristine
Gren Min
Gren Elite
Gren Free2u2
Gren Price
Gren Rothgar
Gren That_Guy
Gren Essex
Gren Dyre
Gren Fern
Gren Sandi
Gren Kairo
Gren Zappy
Gren Unitatier
Gren Vader
Gren Voodoo
Gren JihadJay
Gren Sharing
Gren Cwater
Gren Pooba/Boz
Gren Skitty
Gren Headshot
Gren Rico
Gren Murman
Gren YoloSwag
Gren Colonys22
Gren Darkenmal
Gren Dickhardrock
Gren Jaax
Gren James
Gren Bunnies
Gren Shampoopy
Gren Holborn
Gren Whalefish
Fus BillTheButcher
Fus Rey Mysterio (fireboy)
Fus SkyZ
Fus DanMan
Fus Crocodile
Fus Tacoboy
Fus Maniac
Fus Tucker
Fus Luis
Fus Alexander (the retarded one)
Fus Cheeseypants
Fus Chalres123
Fus Gman
Fus Eazy-E
Fus Pieter
Fus Ogrelord
Fus Porkins
Fus Hando
Fus Foddy
Fus Kalashnikov
Fus Hurstey
Fus HNDRXX
Fus Baptiste
Fus Rogelio
Fus skinny
Fus Aporta
Fus EasterCow
Fus Beansacks
Chef Dan (he can’t make anything)[close]45e guys addedFahn Rafael
Fwbl Dj OverJoy
MUffz Killershark
Gefr Pinoy
Gren Hawkince
Gren Gul
Gren Pedro
Gren TerribleTim
Gren Archer
Gren Asuna
Gren Charles
Gren Chantakey
Gren Fox
Gren Suns
Gren Wall
Fus Mattboi
Fus Operus
Fus Dukers
Fus Ian
Fus Shepard
Fus Gul
Fus Montoytoy
Fus Badger[close]
Based on the resume LG has I believe should be in the regiment HoF (I think 5th/75th should aswell). I get people will argue that NA was small and there was only 2 regiments good at the time however, LG was better than everyone until 3eVolt reform and kept going back and forth with them. LG dominated the tournament scene in 2017 until they lost to SoF in the 4v4 (ez pz) but still finished top 2 in 8 melee tournaments in a 6-10 month span. Something we haven't seen since 12th, 63e, & 71st, etc. did it back in the day. How can you put regiments like 9y & 1stFKI for not winning any leagues (I'm not saying they shouldn't be in the regiment HoF) and not the LG. People that dislike LG will say that we wasn't top NA that long since 3eVolt was overall better in 2017 but the fact that LG went back and forth with a HoF regiment (3eVolt) and beat them in NAPL should give LG even a stronger reason to be in the regiment HoF. 3eVolt bias n3rds will say LG needed a stack to beat 3eVolt but almost every HoF regiment had melee stacks (except 63e) so why should that factor even matter??? In addition, people that say there was no competition should realize that for the past 3-4 years for the most part there has been 2 or 3 regiment each year that has been better than everyone else (like 71st, 63e, 58e, 3eVolt to name a few) because most of the good players always join the top regiments at the time instead of helping lower tier regiments to become good (like myself). So the "no competition" excuse shouldn't even matter since the top regiments of the past 3-4 years had little or no competition in their reign because they were just simply better than everyone else.
I made this post to try and show why LG deserves a spot in the HoF. If you are going to have a community list for all time melee, regiments, leaders, etc. you need to at least update it and put people or regiments on there that deserve it.[close]
I don't think there were any leagues around when 9y existed lol, but 2teGarde I think would be a close example of how they would've done Agreed
It's not just that the regiments that existed in late 2016-2017 weren't good (they were decent) it's that for most of LG's existence, outside of groupfights, they weren't as unbeatable as the other Hall of Fame regiments were during their reigns. Even before the 3eVolt reformed, LG took losses to 63e, 4th, Sil, 6te tied with USMC and 30th, had multiple close (6-4) matches against regiments like 32e and 30th etc. Okay 12th, 9y, 71st most likely since they were just fulled with melee stacks. You have to also release that leading is way different from back in the day when it was alot simpler. LG had ties or 6-4 wins because the other regiments camped the fuck out of us. I remember 2ndQF vs 45e/2pp and 2pp won 6-4 because 2ndQF leading was horrible as an example of old regiment trying to come back with some of its old guys and losing to a current regiment.
And the 4th who were objectively garbage at that time managed to put up wins and ties against almost all those regiments, even with the players those regiments got from 1er. The level of competition at the time was just bad.I agree the competition wasn't great but if the LG did bad would we even talk about them being good right now??
Also no, the 3eVolt from 2017 isn't the same 3eVolt that's in the Hall of Fame, so saying LG went back and forth with a Hall of Fame regiment is inaccurate (and even still back forth is a bit of a stretch if you actually look at the records).Yeh the old 3eVolt is different but the LG has alot of old players aswell that can do well against the old 3eVolt.
If the other Hall of Fame regiments had been around during that time in place of the LG, they would have swept the competition completely, without a doubt. Of course if you put all the HoF regiments top 30 against current regs of course but you are still making a stupid excuse using HoF regiments are better than LG to not put them in the HoF. LG top 30 can compete against any HoF regiment.
It's like putting a Major League team against 5 minor league teams, and saying it was one of the best Major League teams after its beaten them. I just don't get it.No
LG was a good regiment, but I still don't see any reason for it to be placed among the best regiments of all time.So LG wins more tournaments and same amount of leagues as 3e did in a 6 year span and not in the HoF?? #LG4HoF
Okay 12th, 9y, 71st most likely since they were just fulled with melee stacks. You have to also release that leading is way different from back in the day when it was alot simpler. LG had ties or 6-4 wins because the other regiments camped the fuck out of us. I remember 2ndQF vs 45e/2pp and 2pp won 6-4 because 2ndQF leading was horrible as an example of old regiment trying to come back with some of its old guys and losing to a current regiment.
I agree the competition wasn't great but if the LG did bad would we even talk about them being good right now??
Yeh the old 3eVolt is different but the LG has alot of old players aswell that can do well against the old 3eVolt.
No
So LG wins more tournaments and same amount of leagues as 3e did in a 6 year span and not in the HoF?? #LG4HoF"
yeah thats what i thought snake bitch 045 045 045 sneak diss 045 get whacked someday ill catch you on BoB tomorrow and throw some grapes as warning shots LOOOOOOLYe ye, I'll see you later, better pickup an axe before I hop on to give me a extra boost as I swing on yo ass, see you tomorrow kiddo.
an*Aight too far, night.
vetro why the fuck you still pressing me boy? you want me to drop the dennis logs tonight? LOLOLOL
i'm going to be put back on the leader list, right g-guys?(https://archive-media-0.nyafuu.org/bant/image/1493/91/1493919651453.jpg)[close]
half asleep and accepted a ft7 cause this bum wouldn't stop spamming me on steam (he's justinbieber) I reign superior again baby. Look at all my fans who came out to watch
(https://i.gyazo.com/5df8e7549d903c0f908d5858c645c45f.png) (https://gyazo.com/5df8e7549d903c0f908d5858c645c45f)
It’s almost 7am thanks for the 7-8 pages of banter reading while I wait to go fishing
Could any of the regiments in the hall of fame actually well do anything other than play infantry?
Do u guys really see double x'ing as a skill
Spoileryo apoc i bet you wouldn't be able to do stuff i have done i 7-6'd godfreid last ft7 and he's one of the "old players" who hasn't quit the game the past couple of years and somehow im shit? he's a 92 LOLOOOOOL
Lol tf? Are you trying to imply ive never beaten Godfreid in an ft7? Is that your crowning achievement?
Also, Godfreid hardly counts as an old player in the context you are using it as. Yeah, he has played since the early days, but he didn't really ever focus on getting good til like after the double x got removed.
But you know why hes a 92 and you aren't? Cause he actually wins tournaments. He doesn't need to screenshot every little thing he does to prove he is half decent.Quotehow am i shit and full of myself if you rate yourself at 93 yet you "haven't dominated since 2013" ap0c you rate yourself high above everyone else but you havent even played LMFAO
here are some of my 7-0s from my collection (not entirety)
https://gyazo.com/92dd4bc27d673e3969b2d0af1f64c612
https://gyazo.com/39dfe65a76ff1bdb946a22368083b3f6
https://gyazo.com/4caddae26435e88780d22d7102123b2f
https://gyazo.com/3bb30abfb9346a86d399a8f88381f22d
https://gyazo.com/eb8ba861b8cfd078e458f02e365dbec9
come catch this ft7 hoe ass prideful "im a 93 but i havent dominated since 2013" ass bitch LOLLLLL
This is exactly why you are shit and full of yourself. You need to screenshot every little thing you do. You know why me, and alot of old players, didn't screenshot all our FT7s and groupfighting? Because we didn't have to prove anything. Sorry you have to compensate.[close]
i don't screenshot these FT7s as you assume for my "e-peen" or "ego" I solely screenshot these for further reference with the intent to troll people, as on NW it's extremely easy to call someone out like you on their melee rating which is biased and you react in a way such as this.
comedic isn't it? LOOOOOL
i've won tournaments lmfao i tried to show up to the past two duel tournaments recently but i was busy on both days i would like to show up to these but sometimes irl stuff takes me away
https://challonge.com/32dtdg35 - 2nd
https://challonge.com/mattduel14 - 1st
https://challonge.com/jctctrq0 - 1st
i've even won the 3eVolt CplFoP tournies multiple times during all of the 3eVolt reforms/periods
you asked me how ive never beaten anyone good because all the older players have left and quit the game, i give you an example and you shoot it down as irrelevant or false because you know i'm right LOL
how does screenshotting 7-0s prove to others how im good? if i 7-0d them im clearly the better player and they are outmatched
hell i even did better than you on Bill, I 7-2'd him just by kicking (not turkish kicks i actually aim with these) and this was when Bill was considered "good" and not "rusty"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abDw_RzqFb0
ap0c if you really are a 93 rated on the all time how'd you get 5-0'd by these goofies LOLOL ive seen ghost comeback after 6 months and top groupfights yet hes rated below you like wtf? if you're so good how come you cant unrust as fast as the other top NA's?
1. 2 Years is alot more than 6 months.
2. Anthony was having an awful day. He didn't get a single frag.
that's a lie you came back for 58e under the smite name Anhur you were gone at most 1.5 years (stretching it) and you even joined the 3eVolt at one point
6 months compared to 2 years is essentially the same thing, both are long periods of time and rust settles in usually after a month, do you have some rust calculator that demonstrates a slope of degrading melee skill following periods of absence from the game or something ap0c? LMFAO
so if i quit the game for 1 month ill have more skill compared to quitting for 2 months? lmao what noob
https://gyazo.com/4379a29c6790f03dbb82e16b8cf255d0
if you're such a "tough duelist" to go against how come you get hammered on NW everytime I see you like LOOOOOL ap0c come on man there's 85's right now who could demolish you in groupfighting or dueling and they play way more hours less than you do yet theyre much more successful
Who- came back after a year's absence and topped a groupfight how come i dont see you doing those yet you're a "93" rated all time? like what LMAO
58e was like mid 2016. I came back...in mid 2018. Thats 2 years. I didn't even play actively at all back then either. I got on for LBs every now and then (didnt even go to all of them) thats literally it.
Whats more impressive is there are players like you who are shit for years randomly get full of themselves when everyone good quits and then decide they are good.
Apoc you've been a pussy even back then because I've been around since 12th days, and you were ducking the ft7 all the fucking time, and on the NA GF server I saw you fight, and you were shit. I never got why you or Havoc have the authority to make a list, when you both are shit. At least Suns duels everybody, and has the balls to call people out. You've also been avoiding my past posts, and that just proves your a big bitch.
Motherfucker, everybody knows who Dante is. Suns will tell you who I am. Suns will VOUCH for me that I was a beast for my 600 hours and I'm hour for hour #1 and we'll both beat your ass even in your prime. You sucked. In your hour class, Tammo, Maple, Pinoy etc. All owned you. You are never mentioned. Gtfo.
Lol I remember when you were some 12th Groupie. I didn't FT7 you because not only did you not challenge me, you didn't even leave enough impression on me to want to FT7 you.
I avoid your posts because you spout the same shit as Bill and Matt. Its old memes, and its low tier shit posts.
"Groupie" What the fuck are you talking about? This isn't a fucking concert you dumb ass bitch. You didn't ft7 me because you're a PUSSY! That is why. You fucking suck, and you would get embarrassed by a guy with 600 hours. If you were so confident you should've challenged me and "won" but you didn't so you are now talking out of your ass. There are no memes, your NW career is a MEME. You are LOW tier.
When will 1stRddt get a spot in the regimental hall of fame?
The current 71st is just another incarnation of the LGIt has the main members of the original LG, but not all the 45e members that brought the LG over the top to being one of the best.
I mean
I was in charge of artillery in the 7thRF (listed under the 12th), as I had merged into them from an artillery regiment, and id say we could do it pretty well. It helped that anybody who charged us, cav or otherwise, would die immediately.
9y also did events as artillery alot, because Mack liked it. Saltyy was pretty good with cannons iirc. Also, as with 7thRF, anyone who charged us just died immediately. Turns out being good infantry is really useful for artillery regiments, as they get more melee than actual infantry regiments at times (staying at a range from artillery is generally not advisable).
3eVolt had detachments in its bigger incarnations.
63e is 63e.
Pretty sure 1stFKI did other stuff too, I can't cite evidence though.
Dunno about the others.
LG is better without the 45e ::)The current 71st is just another incarnation of the LGIt has the main members of the original LG, but not all the 45e members that brought the LG over the top to being one of the best.
Still lost to 6tethat was our EU line
Still lost to 6tethat was our EU line
When will 1stRddt get a spot in the regimental hall of fame?
Could any of the regiments in the hall of fame actually well do anything other than play infantry?
I mean
I was in charge of artillery in the 7thRF (listed under the 12th), as I had merged into them from an artillery regiment, and id say we could do it pretty well. It helped that anybody who charged us, cav or otherwise, would die immediately.
9y also did events as artillery alot, because Mack liked it. Saltyy was pretty good with cannons iirc. Also, as with 7thRF, anyone who charged us just died immediately. Turns out being good infantry is really useful for artillery regiments, as they get more melee than actual infantry regiments at times (staying at a range from artillery is generally not advisable).
3eVolt had detachments in its bigger incarnations.
63e is 63e.
Pretty sure 1stFKI did other stuff too, I can't cite evidence though.
Dunno about the other
SpoilerLeagues LG has won or finished 2nd in: LG has been around for over a year and couple of months and won NANWL (With little competition besides 57th of course), NAPL S2(Beat 3eVolt). LG was 2nd place in NAPL S1 (6te should of won it cuz of course we r3kt LG in melee in the 2nd half but 30th won it) and then RGL 2nd place (3e had more skilled players then LG did at the match and people under performed like myself).
Melee Tournaments LG has won: Melee tournaments won by LG - 6x 1st Place & 2x 2nd Place.SpoilerMaccles Second 2v2 Tournament - Wastee & Sanders - 1st Place
Liquids 4v4 Tournament - Wastee, RussianFury, NickCole, Theodin - 1st Place
Dan's Ultimate Gfing Tournament Part IV - Wastee, RussianFury, NickCole, Yoshie, Bill - 1st Place
Orcaryo's 7v7 Tournament - Wastee, RussianFury, NickCole, Yoshie, Bill, Rafael, Jorge - 1st Place
Lawbringers 3v3 Tournament - Wastee, RussianFury, Yoshie - 1st Place
NA Gold 5v5 Groupfighting League Season 2 - Wastee, RussianFury, Yoshie, Rafael, DJ, Havoc - 1st Place
NickColes 4v4 Tournament - Wastee, RussianFury, Yoshie, Jorge - 2nd Place
Ultimate Groupfighting Tournament Part VII - Wastee, Yoshie, Rafael, Russianfury - 2nd Place[close]
Requirements to be a HoF Regiment: From what I see to be a HoF regiment you need League and Tournament wins, how long the regiment was top or top tier during their time, out of all their 1v1 & GF wins how many were against the best regiments at the time, and their best lineup compared to others all-time (correct me if I am wrong). I already shown you the league and tournament wins, LG been around since late 2016 - early 2018 (I am estimating) and was top of NA easily for the majority of the time it was around, 32e (10-0 in GF & 2-0 in 1v1s), 45e/57th(3-0 in GF & 2W - 1T), 3eVolt(7-10 in GF & 1-1-3 I will take Godfreid word for this), and 63e(GF 5-1 in GF & 1-1 in 1v1s), and this is LG total roster from both LG & 45e people (I believe the combined roster can compete with any of the all-time regiments).&LG guys non 45eOberst RussianFury
Oberst-Lt Wastee
Lt Yoshiee
Uffz Theodin
Uffz Boob
Uffz Glenn
Uffz CluelessWill
Uffz Orcaryo
Kpl Jorge
Kpl NickCole
Kpl Bauer
Kpl Roggeh
S-Gefr Swerp
O-Gefr Predurrdurr
O-Gefr Nevino
Gefr Matt
Gefr Oatmeal
Gefr Domino
Gefr Gandalf
Gefr Dom13
Gefr Wiki
Gefr Gi
Gefr Saltyy
Gefr Lurvy
Gefr Tacoman
Gefr Havoc
Gren Purplish
Gren Kristine
Gren Min
Gren Elite
Gren Free2u2
Gren Price
Gren Rothgar
Gren That_Guy
Gren Essex
Gren Dyre
Gren Fern
Gren Sandi
Gren Kairo
Gren Zappy
Gren Unitatier
Gren Vader
Gren Voodoo
Gren JihadJay
Gren Sharing
Gren Cwater
Gren Pooba/Boz
Gren Skitty
Gren Headshot
Gren Rico
Gren Murman
Gren YoloSwag
Gren Colonys22
Gren Darkenmal
Gren Dickhardrock
Gren Jaax
Gren James
Gren Bunnies
Gren Shampoopy
Gren Holborn
Gren Whalefish
Fus BillTheButcher
Fus Rey Mysterio (fireboy)
Fus SkyZ
Fus DanMan
Fus Crocodile
Fus Tacoboy
Fus Maniac
Fus Tucker
Fus Luis
Fus Alexander (the retarded one)
Fus Cheeseypants
Fus Chalres123
Fus Gman
Fus Eazy-E
Fus Pieter
Fus Ogrelord
Fus Porkins
Fus Hando
Fus Foddy
Fus Kalashnikov
Fus Hurstey
Fus HNDRXX
Fus Baptiste
Fus Rogelio
Fus skinny
Fus Aporta
Fus EasterCow
Fus Beansacks
Chef Dan (he can’t make anything)[close]45e guys addedFahn Rafael
Fwbl Dj OverJoy
MUffz Killershark
Gefr Pinoy
Gren Hawkince
Gren Gul
Gren Pedro
Gren TerribleTim
Gren Archer
Gren Asuna
Gren Charles
Gren Chantakey
Gren Fox
Gren Suns
Gren Wall
Fus Mattboi
Fus Operus
Fus Dukers
Fus Ian
Fus Shepard
Fus Gul
Fus Montoytoy
Fus Badger[close]
Based on the resume LG has I believe should be in the regiment HoF (I think 5th/75th should aswell). I get people will argue that NA was small and there was only 2 regiments good at the time however, LG was better than everyone until 3eVolt reform and kept going back and forth with them. LG dominated the tournament scene in 2017 until they lost to SoF in the 4v4 (ez pz) but still finished top 2 in 8 melee tournaments in a 6-10 month span. Something we haven't seen since 12th, 63e, & 71st, etc. did it back in the day. How can you put regiments like 9y & 1stFKI for not winning any leagues (I'm not saying they shouldn't be in the regiment HoF) and not the LG. People that dislike LG will say that we wasn't top NA that long since 3eVolt was overall better in 2017 but the fact that LG went back and forth with a HoF regiment (3eVolt) and beat them in NAPL should give LG even a stronger reason to be in the regiment HoF. 3eVolt bias n3rds will say LG needed a stack to beat 3eVolt but almost every HoF regiment had melee stacks (except 63e) so why should that factor even matter??? In addition, people that say there was no competition should realize that for the past 3-4 years for the most part there has been 2 or 3 regiment each year that has been better than everyone else (like 71st, 63e, 58e, 3eVolt to name a few) because most of the good players always join the top regiments at the time instead of helping lower tier regiments to become good (like myself). So the "no competition" excuse shouldn't even matter since the top regiments of the past 3-4 years had little or no competition in their reign because they were just simply better than everyone else.
I made this post to try and show why LG deserves a spot in the HoF. If you are going to have a community list for all time melee, regiments, leaders, etc. you need to at least update it and put people or regiments on there that deserve it.[close]
I don't think there were any leagues around when 9y existed lol, but 2teGarde I think would be a close example of how they would've done
It's not just that the regiments that existed in late 2016-2017 weren't good (they were decent) it's that for most of LG's existence, outside of groupfights, they weren't as unbeatable as the other Hall of Fame regiments were during their reigns. Even before the 3eVolt reformed, LG took losses to 63e, 4th, Sil, 6te tied with USMC and 30th, had multiple close (6-4) matches against regiments like 32e and 30th etc.
And the 4th who were objectively garbage at that time managed to put up wins and ties against almost all those regiments, even with the players those regiments got from 1er. The level of competition at the time was just bad.
Also no, the 3eVolt from 2017 isn't the same 3eVolt that's in the Hall of Fame, so saying LG went back and forth with a Hall of Fame regiment is inaccurate (and even still back forth is a bit of a stretch if you actually look at the records).
If the other Hall of Fame regiments had been around during that time in place of the LG, they would have swept the competition completely, without a doubt.
It's like putting a Major League team against 5 minor league teams, and saying it was one of the best Major League teams after its beaten them. I just don't get it.
LG was a good regiment, but I still don't see any reason for it to be placed among the best regiments of all time.
Could any of the regiments in the hall of fame actually well do anything other than play infantry?Pretty sure 1stFKI did other stuff too, I can't cite evidence though.
Not putting 00th in the hof that's laughableBest artist
We stomped on LG in the 2nd half in melee ez pz. Also does anyone remember the Black Legion? They were pretty good at melee from what I saw in events.Still lost to 6tethat was our EU line
I remember Marceaux top fragging for probably the only time in his life
how about we settle this over a real mans game, sign up noobs, its time for the league to happen.
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=38060.msg1719629;boardseen#new
tutorial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EplKKKWLpn4
We are not putting the Black Legion in the HoF lololWe stomped on LG in the 2nd half in melee ez pz. Also does anyone remember the Black Legion? They were pretty good at melee from what I saw in events.Still lost to 6tethat was our EU line
I remember Marceaux top fragging for probably the only time in his life
lol I was just asking since people are bringing up some old regiments.We are not putting the Black Legion in the HoF lololWe stomped on LG in the 2nd half in melee ez pz. Also does anyone remember the Black Legion? They were pretty good at melee from what I saw in events.Still lost to 6tethat was our EU line
I remember Marceaux top fragging for probably the only time in his life
58e hall of fame when?
yo matt dont post shit to me bitch i can tell you're butthurt i defriended and blocked you the other day LMFAO
"suns you ready to hang up the hatchet?"
"suns can we be friends again?"
hmmm October 5th 2016 im sure ap0c "retired" from the game long before that date though, it can't be him he was gone for 2 years and just came back recently :(
Yeah I was doing what I am currently doing in the 98e, being dragged to LBs and GFs and not much else. Which is why Maccle challenged me, cause I was rusty and he thought he could beat me.
I mean, you may consider that playing, but I don't. Theres a big difference between 2-4 hours per week vs. 10-20 per week.
SpoilerLeagues LG has won or finished 2nd in: LG has been around for over a year and couple of months and won NANWL (With little competition besides 57th of course), NAPL S2(Beat 3eVolt). LG was 2nd place in NAPL S1 (6te should of won it cuz of course we r3kt LG in melee in the 2nd half but 30th won it) and then RGL 2nd place (3e had more skilled players then LG did at the match and people under performed like myself).
Melee Tournaments LG has won: Melee tournaments won by LG - 6x 1st Place & 2x 2nd Place.SpoilerMaccles Second 2v2 Tournament - Wastee & Sanders - 1st Place
Liquids 4v4 Tournament - Wastee, RussianFury, NickCole, Theodin - 1st Place
Dan's Ultimate Gfing Tournament Part IV - Wastee, RussianFury, NickCole, Yoshie, Bill - 1st Place
Orcaryo's 7v7 Tournament - Wastee, RussianFury, NickCole, Yoshie, Bill, Rafael, Jorge - 1st Place
Lawbringers 3v3 Tournament - Wastee, RussianFury, Yoshie - 1st Place
NA Gold 5v5 Groupfighting League Season 2 - Wastee, RussianFury, Yoshie, Rafael, DJ, Havoc - 1st Place
NickColes 4v4 Tournament - Wastee, RussianFury, Yoshie, Jorge - 2nd Place
Ultimate Groupfighting Tournament Part VII - Wastee, Yoshie, Rafael, Russianfury - 2nd Place[close]
Requirements to be a HoF Regiment: From what I see to be a HoF regiment you need League and Tournament wins, how long the regiment was top or top tier during their time, out of all their 1v1 & GF wins how many were against the best regiments at the time, and their best lineup compared to others all-time (correct me if I am wrong). I already shown you the league and tournament wins, LG been around since late 2016 - early 2018 (I am estimating) and was top of NA easily for the majority of the time it was around, 32e (10-0 in GF & 2-0 in 1v1s), 45e/57th(3-0 in GF & 2W - 1T), 3eVolt(7-10 in GF & 1-1-3 I will take Godfreid word for this), and 63e(GF 5-1 in GF & 1-1 in 1v1s), and this is LG total roster from both LG & 45e people (I believe the combined roster can compete with any of the all-time regiments).&LG guys non 45eOberst RussianFury
Oberst-Lt Wastee
Lt Yoshiee
Uffz Theodin
Uffz Boob
Uffz Glenn
Uffz CluelessWill
Uffz Orcaryo
Kpl Jorge
Kpl NickCole
Kpl Bauer
Kpl Roggeh
S-Gefr Swerp
O-Gefr Predurrdurr
O-Gefr Nevino
Gefr Matt
Gefr Oatmeal
Gefr Domino
Gefr Gandalf
Gefr Dom13
Gefr Wiki
Gefr Gi
Gefr Saltyy
Gefr Lurvy
Gefr Tacoman
Gefr Havoc
Gren Purplish
Gren Kristine
Gren Min
Gren Elite
Gren Free2u2
Gren Price
Gren Rothgar
Gren That_Guy
Gren Essex
Gren Dyre
Gren Fern
Gren Sandi
Gren Kairo
Gren Zappy
Gren Unitatier
Gren Vader
Gren Voodoo
Gren JihadJay
Gren Sharing
Gren Cwater
Gren Pooba/Boz
Gren Skitty
Gren Headshot
Gren Rico
Gren Murman
Gren YoloSwag
Gren Colonys22
Gren Darkenmal
Gren Dickhardrock
Gren Jaax
Gren James
Gren Bunnies
Gren Shampoopy
Gren Holborn
Gren Whalefish
Fus BillTheButcher
Fus Rey Mysterio (fireboy)
Fus SkyZ
Fus DanMan
Fus Crocodile
Fus Tacoboy
Fus Maniac
Fus Tucker
Fus Luis
Fus Alexander (the retarded one)
Fus Cheeseypants
Fus Chalres123
Fus Gman
Fus Eazy-E
Fus Pieter
Fus Ogrelord
Fus Porkins
Fus Hando
Fus Foddy
Fus Kalashnikov
Fus Hurstey
Fus HNDRXX
Fus Baptiste
Fus Rogelio
Fus skinny
Fus Aporta
Fus EasterCow
Fus Beansacks
Chef Dan (he can’t make anything)[close]45e guys addedFahn Rafael
Fwbl Dj OverJoy
MUffz Killershark
Gefr Pinoy
Gren Hawkince
Gren Gul
Gren Pedro
Gren TerribleTim
Gren Archer
Gren Asuna
Gren Charles
Gren Chantakey
Gren Fox
Gren Suns
Gren Wall
Fus Mattboi
Fus Operus
Fus Dukers
Fus Ian
Fus Shepard
Fus Gul
Fus Montoytoy
Fus Badger[close]
Based on the resume LG has I believe should be in the regiment HoF (I think 5th/75th should aswell). I get people will argue that NA was small and there was only 2 regiments good at the time however, LG was better than everyone until 3eVolt reform and kept going back and forth with them. LG dominated the tournament scene in 2017 until they lost to SoF in the 4v4 (ez pz) but still finished top 2 in 8 melee tournaments in a 6-10 month span. Something we haven't seen since 12th, 63e, & 71st, etc. did it back in the day. How can you put regiments like 9y & 1stFKI for not winning any leagues (I'm not saying they shouldn't be in the regiment HoF) and not the LG. People that dislike LG will say that we wasn't top NA that long since 3eVolt was overall better in 2017 but the fact that LG went back and forth with a HoF regiment (3eVolt) and beat them in NAPL should give LG even a stronger reason to be in the regiment HoF. 3eVolt bias n3rds will say LG needed a stack to beat 3eVolt but almost every HoF regiment had melee stacks (except 63e) so why should that factor even matter??? In addition, people that say there was no competition should realize that for the past 3-4 years for the most part there has been 2 or 3 regiment each year that has been better than everyone else (like 71st, 63e, 58e, 3eVolt to name a few) because most of the good players always join the top regiments at the time instead of helping lower tier regiments to become good (like myself). So the "no competition" excuse shouldn't even matter since the top regiments of the past 3-4 years had little or no competition in their reign because they were just simply better than everyone else.
I made this post to try and show why LG deserves a spot in the HoF. If you are going to have a community list for all time melee, regiments, leaders, etc. you need to at least update it and put people or regiments on there that deserve it.[close]
I don't think there were any leagues around when 9y existed lol, but 2teGarde I think would be a close example of how they would've done
It's not just that the regiments that existed in late 2016-2017 weren't good (they were decent) it's that for most of LG's existence, outside of groupfights, they weren't as unbeatable as the other Hall of Fame regiments were during their reigns. Even before the 3eVolt reformed, LG took losses to 63e, 4th, Sil, 6te tied with USMC and 30th, had multiple close (6-4) matches against regiments like 32e and 30th etc.
And the 4th who were objectively garbage at that time managed to put up wins and ties against almost all those regiments, even with the players those regiments got from 1er. The level of competition at the time was just bad.
Also no, the 3eVolt from 2017 isn't the same 3eVolt that's in the Hall of Fame, so saying LG went back and forth with a Hall of Fame regiment is inaccurate (and even still back forth is a bit of a stretch if you actually look at the records).
If the other Hall of Fame regiments had been around during that time in place of the LG, they would have swept the competition completely, without a doubt.
It's like putting a Major League team against 5 minor league teams, and saying it was one of the best Major League teams after its beaten them. I just don't get it.
LG was a good regiment, but I still don't see any reason for it to be placed among the best regiments of all time.
You're spitting some facts. There were no tournaments when the 9y was around, so I don't understand that criticism. However, as the leader of the 2te, they are not a good representation of the 9y at all. The 2te had a fraction of the amount of good meleers the 9y did and I was leading the lines and I'll be the first to admit I was a terrible line leader. 2te got by simply melee stacking, but the 9y actually had decent line leading and way more melee talent.Could any of the regiments in the hall of fame actually well do anything other than play infantry?Pretty sure 1stFKI did other stuff too, I can't cite evidence though.
1stFKI artillery was where Mack and I met and learned how to play. It was lead by KoolKiller, and Johnson was in it as well.
SpoilerSpoilerLeagues LG has won or finished 2nd in: LG has been around for over a year and couple of months and won NANWL (With little competition besides 57th of course), NAPL S2(Beat 3eVolt). LG was 2nd place in NAPL S1 (6te should of won it cuz of course we r3kt LG in melee in the 2nd half but 30th won it) and then RGL 2nd place (3e had more skilled players then LG did at the match and people under performed like myself).
Melee Tournaments LG has won: Melee tournaments won by LG - 6x 1st Place & 2x 2nd Place.SpoilerMaccles Second 2v2 Tournament - Wastee & Sanders - 1st Place
Liquids 4v4 Tournament - Wastee, RussianFury, NickCole, Theodin - 1st Place
Dan's Ultimate Gfing Tournament Part IV - Wastee, RussianFury, NickCole, Yoshie, Bill - 1st Place
Orcaryo's 7v7 Tournament - Wastee, RussianFury, NickCole, Yoshie, Bill, Rafael, Jorge - 1st Place
Lawbringers 3v3 Tournament - Wastee, RussianFury, Yoshie - 1st Place
NA Gold 5v5 Groupfighting League Season 2 - Wastee, RussianFury, Yoshie, Rafael, DJ, Havoc - 1st Place
NickColes 4v4 Tournament - Wastee, RussianFury, Yoshie, Jorge - 2nd Place
Ultimate Groupfighting Tournament Part VII - Wastee, Yoshie, Rafael, Russianfury - 2nd Place[close]
Requirements to be a HoF Regiment: From what I see to be a HoF regiment you need League and Tournament wins, how long the regiment was top or top tier during their time, out of all their 1v1 & GF wins how many were against the best regiments at the time, and their best lineup compared to others all-time (correct me if I am wrong). I already shown you the league and tournament wins, LG been around since late 2016 - early 2018 (I am estimating) and was top of NA easily for the majority of the time it was around, 32e (10-0 in GF & 2-0 in 1v1s), 45e/57th(3-0 in GF & 2W - 1T), 3eVolt(7-10 in GF & 1-1-3 I will take Godfreid word for this), and 63e(GF 5-1 in GF & 1-1 in 1v1s), and this is LG total roster from both LG & 45e people (I believe the combined roster can compete with any of the all-time regiments).&LG guys non 45eOberst RussianFury
Oberst-Lt Wastee
Lt Yoshiee
Uffz Theodin
Uffz Boob
Uffz Glenn
Uffz CluelessWill
Uffz Orcaryo
Kpl Jorge
Kpl NickCole
Kpl Bauer
Kpl Roggeh
S-Gefr Swerp
O-Gefr Predurrdurr
O-Gefr Nevino
Gefr Matt
Gefr Oatmeal
Gefr Domino
Gefr Gandalf
Gefr Dom13
Gefr Wiki
Gefr Gi
Gefr Saltyy
Gefr Lurvy
Gefr Tacoman
Gefr Havoc
Gren Purplish
Gren Kristine
Gren Min
Gren Elite
Gren Free2u2
Gren Price
Gren Rothgar
Gren That_Guy
Gren Essex
Gren Dyre
Gren Fern
Gren Sandi
Gren Kairo
Gren Zappy
Gren Unitatier
Gren Vader
Gren Voodoo
Gren JihadJay
Gren Sharing
Gren Cwater
Gren Pooba/Boz
Gren Skitty
Gren Headshot
Gren Rico
Gren Murman
Gren YoloSwag
Gren Colonys22
Gren Darkenmal
Gren Dickhardrock
Gren Jaax
Gren James
Gren Bunnies
Gren Shampoopy
Gren Holborn
Gren Whalefish
Fus BillTheButcher
Fus Rey Mysterio (fireboy)
Fus SkyZ
Fus DanMan
Fus Crocodile
Fus Tacoboy
Fus Maniac
Fus Tucker
Fus Luis
Fus Alexander (the retarded one)
Fus Cheeseypants
Fus Chalres123
Fus Gman
Fus Eazy-E
Fus Pieter
Fus Ogrelord
Fus Porkins
Fus Hando
Fus Foddy
Fus Kalashnikov
Fus Hurstey
Fus HNDRXX
Fus Baptiste
Fus Rogelio
Fus skinny
Fus Aporta
Fus EasterCow
Fus Beansacks
Chef Dan (he can’t make anything)[close]45e guys addedFahn Rafael
Fwbl Dj OverJoy
MUffz Killershark
Gefr Pinoy
Gren Hawkince
Gren Gul
Gren Pedro
Gren TerribleTim
Gren Archer
Gren Asuna
Gren Charles
Gren Chantakey
Gren Fox
Gren Suns
Gren Wall
Fus Mattboi
Fus Operus
Fus Dukers
Fus Ian
Fus Shepard
Fus Gul
Fus Montoytoy
Fus Badger[close]
Based on the resume LG has I believe should be in the regiment HoF (I think 5th/75th should aswell). I get people will argue that NA was small and there was only 2 regiments good at the time however, LG was better than everyone until 3eVolt reform and kept going back and forth with them. LG dominated the tournament scene in 2017 until they lost to SoF in the 4v4 (ez pz) but still finished top 2 in 8 melee tournaments in a 6-10 month span. Something we haven't seen since 12th, 63e, & 71st, etc. did it back in the day. How can you put regiments like 9y & 1stFKI for not winning any leagues (I'm not saying they shouldn't be in the regiment HoF) and not the LG. People that dislike LG will say that we wasn't top NA that long since 3eVolt was overall better in 2017 but the fact that LG went back and forth with a HoF regiment (3eVolt) and beat them in NAPL should give LG even a stronger reason to be in the regiment HoF. 3eVolt bias n3rds will say LG needed a stack to beat 3eVolt but almost every HoF regiment had melee stacks (except 63e) so why should that factor even matter??? In addition, people that say there was no competition should realize that for the past 3-4 years for the most part there has been 2 or 3 regiment each year that has been better than everyone else (like 71st, 63e, 58e, 3eVolt to name a few) because most of the good players always join the top regiments at the time instead of helping lower tier regiments to become good (like myself). So the "no competition" excuse shouldn't even matter since the top regiments of the past 3-4 years had little or no competition in their reign because they were just simply better than everyone else.
I made this post to try and show why LG deserves a spot in the HoF. If you are going to have a community list for all time melee, regiments, leaders, etc. you need to at least update it and put people or regiments on there that deserve it.[close]
I don't think there were any leagues around when 9y existed lol, but 2teGarde I think would be a close example of how they would've done
It's not just that the regiments that existed in late 2016-2017 weren't good (they were decent) it's that for most of LG's existence, outside of groupfights, they weren't as unbeatable as the other Hall of Fame regiments were during their reigns. Even before the 3eVolt reformed, LG took losses to 63e, 4th, Sil, 6te tied with USMC and 30th, had multiple close (6-4) matches against regiments like 32e and 30th etc.
And the 4th who were objectively garbage at that time managed to put up wins and ties against almost all those regiments, even with the players those regiments got from 1er. The level of competition at the time was just bad.
Also no, the 3eVolt from 2017 isn't the same 3eVolt that's in the Hall of Fame, so saying LG went back and forth with a Hall of Fame regiment is inaccurate (and even still back forth is a bit of a stretch if you actually look at the records).
If the other Hall of Fame regiments had been around during that time in place of the LG, they would have swept the competition completely, without a doubt.
It's like putting a Major League team against 5 minor league teams, and saying it was one of the best Major League teams after its beaten them. I just don't get it.
LG was a good regiment, but I still don't see any reason for it to be placed among the best regiments of all time.
You're spitting some facts. There were no tournaments when the 9y was around, so I don't understand that criticism. However, as the leader of the 2te, they are not a good representation of the 9y at all. The 2te had a fraction of the amount of good meleers the 9y did and I was leading the lines and I'll be the first to admit I was a terrible line leader. 2te got by simply melee stacking, but the 9y actually had decent line leading and way more melee talent.Could any of the regiments in the hall of fame actually well do anything other than play infantry?Pretty sure 1stFKI did other stuff too, I can't cite evidence though.
1stFKI artillery was where Mack and I met and learned how to play. It was lead by KoolKiller, and Johnson was in it as well.[close]
Ye, 2teGarde wasn't as good as 9y for sure
I just meant like if you look at how well 2teGarde did in S2 of NANWL (placing 2nd or 3rd I think), had 9y been around they would've been able to do much better than 2teGarde, so even though Leagues didn't exist when 9y existed, it's fair to assume they would've done very well in them.
yo matt dont post shit to me bitch i can tell you're butthurt i defriended and blocked you the other day LMFAO
"suns you ready to hang up the hatchet?"
"suns can we be friends again?"
Wait u defriended and blocked me lol I was not aware
"suns you ready to hang up the hatchet?"
"suns can we be friends again?"
I always liked that list because it at least recognized that I taught Russian everything he knows about NW.You didn't teach me much since I'm a Nova 1
You're a tad slow, but I love you all the same.I always liked that list because it at least recognized that I taught Russian everything he knows about NW.You didn't teach me much since I'm a Nova 1
this is the true list lol memesBest list yetSpoiler(https://i.imgur.com/Nh7I8ln.png)[close]
It's missing a key playerthis is the true list lol memesBest list yetSpoiler(https://i.imgur.com/Nh7I8ln.png)[close]
It's missing a key playerthis is the true list lol memesBest list yetSpoiler(https://i.imgur.com/Nh7I8ln.png)[close]
Not youIt's missing a key playerthis is the true list lol memesBest list yetSpoiler(https://i.imgur.com/Nh7I8ln.png)[close]
1st_RGJ_CSjt_Dan_the_ChefNot youIt's missing a key playerthis is the true list lol memesBest list yetSpoiler(https://i.imgur.com/Nh7I8ln.png)[close]
On second thought it's missing the best player to ever play the game - Cop1st_RGJ_CSjt_Dan_the_ChefNot youIt's missing a key playerthis is the true list lol memesBest list yetSpoiler(https://i.imgur.com/Nh7I8ln.png)[close]
Since apoc sucks at skrbbl.io he should be removed from all lists. Do the same for fireboy
Since apoc sucks at skrbbl.io he should be removed from all lists. Do the same for fireboy
Since apoc sucks at skrbbl.io he should be removed from all lists. Do the same for fireboy
My drawings are better than both of your NW melee skills combined
58e hall of fame when?
58e hall of fame when?
Since apoc sucks at skrbbl.io he should be removed from all lists. Do the same for fireboy
My drawings are better than both of your NW melee skills combined
Apaukolypse has started a vote to votekick Fireboy (1/5)
even vetro is better than youSince apoc sucks at skrbbl.io he should be removed from all lists. Do the same for fireboy
My drawings are better than both of your NW melee skills combined
Apaukolypse has started a vote to votekick Fireboy (1/5)
Only way to win is to kick me because I’m the most dominant skribble player of all time
I'll say though the thing to remember is the average skill level of the community is constantly rising. I don't think the prime regiments of 2011-2015 would have a good time fighting current day regiments. However you should look at skill as relative and not absolute. The 12th were the first ones to figure the competitive scene out, and they paved the way for all regiments to follow. Would they hold up today? Probably not, but is that because the players are not skilled enough? No, it's that skill rises in parallel with the level of competition and people you practice with.
Bannerlord NW will be interesting, all old gens regiments will return and we will see which ones still have it in them when they put in the hours.
Only thing confusing me is people calling the 12th disciplined. They were the trolls of the day, lol. Though the bar for trolling was a lot lower back then
I think we can all agree, Juicy_Kelly is the best player ever.
I think we can all agree, Juicy_Kelly is the best player ever.unironically best sapper of all time and legit should be on an all-time list for best overall player
I think we can all agree, Juicy_Kelly is the best player ever.
I think we can all agree that
MOUNTAIN DEW IS THE BEST SODA EVER MADE
i disagreeSpoilerI think we can all agree, Juicy_Kelly is the best player ever.
I think we can all agree that
MOUNTAIN DEW IS THE BEST SODA EVER MADE[close]
I think we can all agree that chocolate is better than vanilla ice cream
i disagreeSpoilerI think we can all agree, Juicy_Kelly is the best player ever.
I think we can all agree that
MOUNTAIN DEW IS THE BEST SODA EVER MADE[close]
I think we can all agree that chocolate is better than vanilla ice cream
i disagreeSpoilerI think we can all agree, Juicy_Kelly is the best player ever.
I think we can all agree that
MOUNTAIN DEW IS THE BEST SODA EVER MADE[close]
I think we can all agree that chocolate is better than vanilla ice cream
i disagreeSpoilerI think we can all agree, Juicy_Kelly is the best player ever.
I think we can all agree that
MOUNTAIN DEW IS THE BEST SODA EVER MADE[close]
I think we can all agree that chocolate is better than vanilla ice cream
i disagreeSpoilerI think we can all agree, Juicy_Kelly is the best player ever.
I think we can all agree that
MOUNTAIN DEW IS THE BEST SODA EVER MADE[close]
I think we can all agree that chocolate is better than vanilla ice cream
i disagreeSpoilerI think we can all agree, Juicy_Kelly is the best player ever.
I think we can all agree that
MOUNTAIN DEW IS THE BEST SODA EVER MADE[close]
I think we can all agree that chocolate is better than vanilla ice cream
I think we can all agree, Juicy_Kelly is the best player ever.
When you go to Wendy's you get a frosty and fries, it's law
Anyone else dunk their fries in Milkshakes, Malts, Ice Cream etc... ?Hell Ye
Anyone else dunk their fries in Milkshakes, Malts, Ice Cream etc... ?is normal
I think we can all agree, Juicy_Kelly is the best player ever.
Dude was the GOAT when it came to explosives lol. He had the range and everything figured out.
When you go to Wendy's you get a frosty and fries, it's lawI'm hungry now
Legit should be on all time list tbh !!I think we can all agree, Juicy_Kelly is the best player ever.
Dude was the GOAT when it came to explosives lol. He had the range and everything figured out.
Juice Kelly is a fucking legend
Anyone else dunk their fries in Milkshakes, Malts, Ice Cream etc... ?Hell Ye
I don't know why people are saying I made the list with AP0C. He listened to some of my criticism but not all of it. For instance, I told him he should be 89 rated and well he's still 93 XD. For real though he was the 9th highest on Grimsight's list and even then he was overrated. AP0C, by "not changing your rating" you made yourself 4th best all time which is just not accurate.
Also, some have been complaining about over-rating old gens and I agree that they shouldn't be held so high up. That's why I downrated players like Lithios and Pointblank because their careers were so short and frankly they never won anything. Could they have been legends if they continued playing? Yea obviously. Look at a player like Ghost who was great in 2013 and just got better by sticking with the game.
With regard to LG in HoF, I agree they shouldn't be in it YET. At some point, YES. They only disbanded at the start of this year. They competed with a HoF reg (3eVolt) and despite what everyone thinks, competition now is much better than it was back in 2013. The 12th had a huge melee stack and they didn't have the insane level of coordination and discipline a lot of people seem to think they did.
I'm seeing a lot of arguments that LG lost some linebattles and groupfights and that's fine. Just because they don't have as flawless of a record as the 12th doesn't mean they shouldn't be in the HoF. Look at 9y and 1stFKI. They were getting losses to the 12th/2ndQF and they didn't do groupfights so it's hard to say if they would have had as good of a record as the LG (who dominated that scene for awhile) but they probably would have even more losses.I'll say though the thing to remember is the average skill level of the community is constantly rising. I don't think the prime regiments of 2011-2015 would have a good time fighting current day regiments. However you should look at skill as relative and not absolute. The 12th were the first ones to figure the competitive scene out, and they paved the way for all regiments to follow. Would they hold up today? Probably not, but is that because the players are not skilled enough? No, it's that skill rises in parallel with the level of competition and people you practice with.
Bannerlord NW will be interesting, all old gens regiments will return and we will see which ones still have it in them when they put in the hours.
Only thing confusing me is people calling the 12th disciplined. They were the trolls of the day, lol. Though the bar for trolling was a lot lower back then
Also agree with what grim said +1
okYou’re bae Havoc. I kinda disagree with you all saying that players back in 2013 are not as good as players are now. Pretty much everyone’s skill level has plateaued by this point. We have seen multiple times of players who have taken 1+ year breaks coming back and smacking kids around. AP0C, Colonys, Tammo, Maple, and even you Havoc are an example of this. I have no doubt in my mind that prime JackieChan, Zzeth, or Colonys in 2013-2014 could absolutely destroy Russian, Dj, Bill, or whoever else everyone is claiming to be amazing nowadays that wasn’t already at that level back then. The 12th was extremely disorganized, but they still won. And I think they still would if they went up againt any regiment today.SpoilerI don't know why people are saying I made the list with AP0C. He listened to some of my criticism but not all of it. For instance, I told him he should be 89 rated and well he's still 93 XD. For real though he was the 9th highest on Grimsight's list and even then he was overrated. AP0C, by "not changing your rating" you made yourself 4th best all time which is just not accurate.
Also, some have been complaining about over-rating old gens and I agree that they shouldn't be held so high up. That's why I downrated players like Lithios and Pointblank because their careers were so short and frankly they never won anything. Could they have been legends if they continued playing? Yea obviously. Look at a player like Ghost who was great in 2013 and just got better by sticking with the game.
With regard to LG in HoF, I agree they shouldn't be in it YET. At some point, YES. They only disbanded at the start of this year. They competed with a HoF reg (3eVolt) and despite what everyone thinks, competition now is much better than it was back in 2013. The 12th had a huge melee stack and they didn't have the insane level of coordination and discipline a lot of people seem to think they did.
I'm seeing a lot of arguments that LG lost some linebattles and groupfights and that's fine. Just because they don't have as flawless of a record as the 12th doesn't mean they shouldn't be in the HoF. Look at 9y and 1stFKI. They were getting losses to the 12th/2ndQF and they didn't do groupfights so it's hard to say if they would have had as good of a record as the LG (who dominated that scene for awhile) but they probably would have even more losses.I'll say though the thing to remember is the average skill level of the community is constantly rising. I don't think the prime regiments of 2011-2015 would have a good time fighting current day regiments. However you should look at skill as relative and not absolute. The 12th were the first ones to figure the competitive scene out, and they paved the way for all regiments to follow. Would they hold up today? Probably not, but is that because the players are not skilled enough? No, it's that skill rises in parallel with the level of competition and people you practice with.
Bannerlord NW will be interesting, all old gens regiments will return and we will see which ones still have it in them when they put in the hours.
Only thing confusing me is people calling the 12th disciplined. They were the trolls of the day, lol. Though the bar for trolling was a lot lower back then
Also agree with what grim said +1[close]
Colony's didn't really smack people around when he was playing again, I haven't seen Havoc play lately but before I left he was good, but not smacking people around. Haven't seen the others play but Fartknockers list says Maple and Apoc aren't smacking people around and the list doesn't lie.smack
trash yet somehow a 93 still LOOOOOOOOOOLbecause all time and current melee are different things?
yeah MATT and i were smacking colonys when hed play NW 20-40 hrs every 2 weeks maple and apoc arent doing so well rn either lololo they claim "rust"I assure you he wasn't playing 20-40 hours of NW every 2 weeks. Probably at max 10 hours on NW and 30 on Nord Invasion
I don't know why people are saying I made the list with AP0C. He listened to some of my criticism but not all of it. For instance, I told him he should be 89 rated and well he's still 93 XD. For real though he was the 9th highest on Grimsight's list and even then he was overrated. AP0C, by "not changing your rating" you made yourself 4th best all time which is just not accurate.
Also, some have been complaining about over-rating old gens and I agree that they shouldn't be held so high up. That's why I downrated players like Lithios and Pointblank because their careers were so short and frankly they never won anything. Could they have been legends if they continued playing? Yea obviously. Look at a player like Ghost who was great in 2013 and just got better by sticking with the game.
With regard to LG in HoF, I agree they shouldn't be in it YET. At some point, YES. They only disbanded at the start of this year. They competed with a HoF reg (3eVolt) and despite what everyone thinks, competition now is much better than it was back in 2013. The 12th had a huge melee stack and they didn't have the insane level of coordination and discipline a lot of people seem to think they did.
I'm seeing a lot of arguments that LG lost some linebattles and groupfights and that's fine. Just because they don't have as flawless of a record as the 12th doesn't mean they shouldn't be in the HoF. Look at 9y and 1stFKI. They were getting losses to the 12th/2ndQF and they didn't do groupfights so it's hard to say if they would have had as good of a record as the LG (who dominated that scene for awhile) but they probably would have even more losses.I'll say though the thing to remember is the average skill level of the community is constantly rising. I don't think the prime regiments of 2011-2015 would have a good time fighting current day regiments. However you should look at skill as relative and not absolute. The 12th were the first ones to figure the competitive scene out, and they paved the way for all regiments to follow. Would they hold up today? Probably not, but is that because the players are not skilled enough? No, it's that skill rises in parallel with the level of competition and people you practice with.
Bannerlord NW will be interesting, all old gens regiments will return and we will see which ones still have it in them when they put in the hours.
Only thing confusing me is people calling the 12th disciplined. They were the trolls of the day, lol. Though the bar for trolling was a lot lower back then
Also agree with what grim said +1
]They competed with a HoF reg (3eVolt)
But that 3e Volt was comparable to the HoF 3e, both in roster, longevity, leadership and success.It wasn't the same without Koolaid...
The 4th/98th was a flash in the pan, like many other regiments that have come and gone, and that lack of longevity eliminates it from contention.
If we're using this logic, 4th/98th should be HoF cause we competed with 3eVolt in 2016 and went back and forth with 71st during that same year, which is 2 HoF regiments.
But that 3e Volt was comparable to the HoF 3e, both in roster, longevity, leadership and success.
The 4th/98th was a flash in the pan, like many other regiments that have come and gone, and that lack of longevity eliminates it from contention.
This 71st is comparable with the peak one melee wise, but linebattle wise we're missing
a) our entire NCO core and
b) Cheesey's leadership chemistry with Russian
besides, it's not like it's really close between the 71st and 98e now, is it, and if the 71st now isn't HoF caliber, the 98e rn isn't either
2-8 vs Sil LOSS
Alexander lead that linebattle after I got smashed2-8 vs Sil LOSS
hehe
2-8 vs Sil Merc SquadLOSS
hehe
USMC tying LG, good times.
NAPL Season 130th GOAT
Almost all of those except for the last 2 were in the first 2 months that LG was a regiment when we were still working on improving. One of the reasons the other regiments are in the HoF is because they had to build up to there skill, I'm pretty sure when the 2ndQF, 1stFKI, 63e, and 3eVolt all formed they were not immediately getting all 9-1's and 10-0's, hell there weren't even that many 1v1s back then and the one's that there were was on the old system of best of two maps. (that last part isn't relevant at all don't mind it)Spoiler6-4 vs 30th WIN
2-8 vs Sil LOSS
5-5 vs USMC TIE
6-4 vs 30th WIN
4-6 vs 63e LOSS
5-5 vs 45e TIE
4-6 vs 6teSLR LOSS
4-6 vs 4th LOSS
6-4 vs 32e WIN NANWL
5-5 vs 30th TIENANWL
6-4 vs 30th WIN
6-4 Vs 63e WIN[close]
These are the ones I'm talking about. Only reason 45e is in there is cause 4th managed to 7-3 and 5-5 them during that time, I don't count the close calls with them later against LG. But 4th was garbage at that time, quite possibly the worst regiment I'd ever been apart of (I still enjoyed my time there tho, still fun guys to play with), they managed to put up the same scores as LG did against pretty much all these regiments and even was 1-1 against the LG.
But I played against these regiments in a good regiment (1er) and a terrible one (4th), so I can say first hand, none of them were good. 1er spent the later part of 2016 stomping every regiment until we disbanded, and when we came back (since that's really what 3eVolt should be called), we picked up where we left off. There was simply nothing impressive about late 2016-2017 regiments.
LG dominated group fights until 1er came back, and even did great against 1er in that department, but LG wasn't as good all-around, hence why when 1er reformed it beat LG 9-1, 7-3, and 7-3. And that was right after LG had won NANWL S7. It wasn't until after 45e merged that LG 7-3'd them back. Again, I don't count the merge against LG, but that happened in like July, and LG disbanded in January of this year + there was a break in like september-october because of Holdfast. After the merge, LG went back and forth with 1er in groupfights still. I'm not saying this is unimpressive, it is impressive. But it's only about as good as 4th/98th ever did for about the same period of time.
So if we're considering LG for a spot in the HoF, I want 4th/98th considered as well ::)
That was nowhere near our prime Tico/Breaches had already been gone for 3 months and the regiment was basically dead and it was a hassle to get anyone on to do anything, I think I disbanded it shortly after that linebattleAlmost all of those except for the last 2 were in the first 2 months that LG was a regiment when we were still working on improving. One of the reasons the other regiments are in the HoF is because they had to build up to there skill, I'm pretty sure when the 2ndQF, 1stFKI, 63e, and 3eVolt all formed they were not immediately getting all 9-1's and 10-0's, hell there weren't even that many 1v1s back then and the one's that there were was on the old system of best of two maps. (that last part isn't relevant at all don't mind it)Spoiler6-4 vs 30th WIN
2-8 vs Sil LOSS
5-5 vs USMC TIE
6-4 vs 30th WIN
4-6 vs 63e LOSS
5-5 vs 45e TIE
4-6 vs 6teSLR LOSS
4-6 vs 4th LOSS
6-4 vs 32e WIN NANWL
5-5 vs 30th TIENANWL
6-4 vs 30th WIN
6-4 Vs 63e WIN[close]
These are the ones I'm talking about. Only reason 45e is in there is cause 4th managed to 7-3 and 5-5 them during that time, I don't count the close calls with them later against LG. But 4th was garbage at that time, quite possibly the worst regiment I'd ever been apart of (I still enjoyed my time there tho, still fun guys to play with), they managed to put up the same scores as LG did against pretty much all these regiments and even was 1-1 against the LG.
But I played against these regiments in a good regiment (1er) and a terrible one (4th), so I can say first hand, none of them were good. 1er spent the later part of 2016 stomping every regiment until we disbanded, and when we came back (since that's really what 3eVolt should be called), we picked up where we left off. There was simply nothing impressive about late 2016-2017 regiments.
LG dominated group fights until 1er came back, and even did great against 1er in that department, but LG wasn't as good all-around, hence why when 1er reformed it beat LG 9-1, 7-3, and 7-3. And that was right after LG had won NANWL S7. It wasn't until after 45e merged that LG 7-3'd them back. Again, I don't count the merge against LG, but that happened in like July, and LG disbanded in January of this year + there was a break in like september-october because of Holdfast. After the merge, LG went back and forth with 1er in groupfights still. I'm not saying this is unimpressive, it is impressive. But it's only about as good as 4th/98th ever did for about the same period of time.
So if we're considering LG for a spot in the HoF, I want 4th/98th considered as well ::)
Once the LG figured our stuff out you can see almost everything was a complete stomping, excluding a few linebattles. Groupfighting wise everything pretty much a stomping.
And I know for a fact even when the 12th was at it's prime there were some close 1v1s, for example we almost lost a 1v1 to Pinkertons 58th, a regiment full of native players that had hardly touched NW.
Take a look at the 71st also, most of their wins are stomps much like the LG but they have a good number of close wins and losses to regiments that are no where near them in skill.
You can have all the best players in the game vs a group of shitters and still lose rounds it 1v1s based on the map and if your shots hit or not, what matters in the end is if you can clinch out the win or not.
As for 4th/98th, I wasn't playing during that time so I have no idea
What makes the LG HoF worthy isn't the first few months in existence, it's the last 5-6 months
Almost all of those except for the last 2 were in the first 2 months that LG was a regiment when we were still working on improving. One of the reasons the other regiments are in the HoF is because they had to build up to there skill, I'm pretty sure when the 2ndQF, 1stFKI, 63e, and 3eVolt all formed they were not immediately getting all 9-1's and 10-0's, hell there weren't even that many 1v1s back then and the one's that there were was on the old system of best of two maps. (that last part isn't relevant at all don't mind it)Spoiler6-4 vs 30th WIN
2-8 vs Sil LOSS
5-5 vs USMC TIE
6-4 vs 30th WIN
4-6 vs 63e LOSS
5-5 vs 45e TIE
4-6 vs 6teSLR LOSS
4-6 vs 4th LOSS
6-4 vs 32e WIN NANWL
5-5 vs 30th TIENANWL
6-4 vs 30th WIN
6-4 Vs 63e WIN[close]
These are the ones I'm talking about. Only reason 45e is in there is cause 4th managed to 7-3 and 5-5 them during that time, I don't count the close calls with them later against LG. But 4th was garbage at that time, quite possibly the worst regiment I'd ever been apart of (I still enjoyed my time there tho, still fun guys to play with), they managed to put up the same scores as LG did against pretty much all these regiments and even was 1-1 against the LG.
But I played against these regiments in a good regiment (1er) and a terrible one (4th), so I can say first hand, none of them were good. 1er spent the later part of 2016 stomping every regiment until we disbanded, and when we came back (since that's really what 3eVolt should be called), we picked up where we left off. There was simply nothing impressive about late 2016-2017 regiments.
LG dominated group fights until 1er came back, and even did great against 1er in that department, but LG wasn't as good all-around, hence why when 1er reformed it beat LG 9-1, 7-3, and 7-3. And that was right after LG had won NANWL S7. It wasn't until after 45e merged that LG 7-3'd them back. Again, I don't count the merge against LG, but that happened in like July, and LG disbanded in January of this year + there was a break in like september-october because of Holdfast. After the merge, LG went back and forth with 1er in groupfights still. I'm not saying this is unimpressive, it is impressive. But it's only about as good as 4th/98th ever did for about the same period of time.
So if we're considering LG for a spot in the HoF, I want 4th/98th considered as well ::)
Once the LG figured our stuff out you can see almost everything was a complete stomping, excluding a few linebattles. Groupfighting wise everything pretty much a stomping.
And I know for a fact even when the 12th was at it's prime there were some close 1v1s, for example we almost lost a 1v1 to Pinkertons 58th, a regiment full of native players that had hardly touched NW.
Take a look at the 71st also, most of their wins are stomps much like the LG but they have a good number of close wins and losses to regiments that are no where near them in skill.
You can have all the best players in the game vs a group of shitters and still lose rounds it 1v1s based on the map and if your shots hit or not, what matters in the end is if you can clinch out the win or not.
As for 4th/98th, I wasn't playing during that time so I have no idea
What makes the LG HoF worthy isn't the first few months in existence, it's the last 5-6 months
You can have all the best players in the game vs a group of shitters and still lose rounds it 1v1s based on the map and if your shots hit or not, what matters in the end is if you can clinch out the win or not.
What makes the LG HoF worthy isn't the first few months in existence, it's the last 5-6 monthsI try to look at a regiment from start to finish.
Who cares? Jesus Christ guys. I hope you guys care about your future kids as much as you do about your online Mount and Blade Napoleonic Wars regiments.
im still salty about things that happened a year ago! this makes that regiment automatically worse than mine even tho we got smacked at the time in the biggest 1v1 in the game, but they merged with another reg how dare they! its almost like our regiment wasn't just 2 super regs for the longest time, shame on them for merging, lets go complain about them on the thread that's for an all time list. but wait? our leader said they deserve to be on the list? wahh wahh wahh.- 3eVolt oldhead headasses
yeah trying to shut up a bunch of retards salty about something that happened a year ago, its in the past just let it be, either put them in or dont, no need to argue over a fucking dead gameim still salty about things that happened a year ago! this makes that regiment automatically worse than mine even tho we got smacked at the time in the biggest 1v1 in the game, but they merged with another reg how dare they! its almost like our regiment wasn't just 2 super regs for the longest time, shame on them for merging, lets go complain about them on the thread that's for an all time list. but wait? our leader said they deserve to be on the list? wahh wahh wahh.- 3eVolt oldhead headasses
So there is something you're worse at than trash-talking.
I'm not salty, I don't think Waste was being salty either. He made some points why he thinks LG should be HoF, I made some points why I think they shouldn't.yeah trying to shut up a bunch of retards salty about something that happened a year ago, its in the past just let it be, either put them in or dont, no need to argue over a fucking dead gameim still salty about things that happened a year ago! this makes that regiment automatically worse than mine even tho we got smacked at the time in the biggest 1v1 in the game, but they merged with another reg how dare they! its almost like our regiment wasn't just 2 super regs for the longest time, shame on them for merging, lets go complain about them on the thread that's for an all time list. but wait? our leader said they deserve to be on the list? wahh wahh wahh.- 3eVolt oldhead headasses
So there is something you're worse at than trash-talking.
alright paint chip eater, im not arguing with you i have no clue where you got that from, i was saying that 3EVOLT people seemed salty and dont want LG to be in it, prime example is you typing a fuckin 4 page essay why you believe they dont deserve to be in there, waste is also going over the top causing people to type this 4 page essays, but i believe some 3evolt member started it.I'm not salty, I don't think Waste was being salty either. He made some points why he thinks LG should be HoF, I made some points why I think they shouldn't.yeah trying to shut up a bunch of retards salty about something that happened a year ago, its in the past just let it be, either put them in or dont, no need to argue over a fucking dead gameim still salty about things that happened a year ago! this makes that regiment automatically worse than mine even tho we got smacked at the time in the biggest 1v1 in the game, but they merged with another reg how dare they! its almost like our regiment wasn't just 2 super regs for the longest time, shame on them for merging, lets go complain about them on the thread that's for an all time list. but wait? our leader said they deserve to be on the list? wahh wahh wahh.- 3eVolt oldhead headasses
So there is something you're worse at than trash-talking.
There's no need for you to tell me there's no need to argue over something that happened in a dead game, but here you are doing it.
alright paint chip eater, im not arguing with you i have no clue where you got that from, i was saying that 3EVOLT people seemed salty and dont want LG to be in it, prime example is you typing a fuckin 4 page essay why you believe they dont deserve to be in there, waste is also going over the top causing people to type this 4 page essays, but i believe some 3evolt member started it.I'm not salty, I don't think Waste was being salty either. He made some points why he thinks LG should be HoF, I made some points why I think they shouldn't.yeah trying to shut up a bunch of retards salty about something that happened a year ago, its in the past just let it be, either put them in or dont, no need to argue over a fucking dead gameim still salty about things that happened a year ago! this makes that regiment automatically worse than mine even tho we got smacked at the time in the biggest 1v1 in the game, but they merged with another reg how dare they! its almost like our regiment wasn't just 2 super regs for the longest time, shame on them for merging, lets go complain about them on the thread that's for an all time list. but wait? our leader said they deserve to be on the list? wahh wahh wahh.- 3eVolt oldhead headasses
So there is something you're worse at than trash-talking.
There's no need for you to tell me there's no need to argue over something that happened in a dead game, but here you are doing it.
i can literally look at the last 2 pages and see 4 3evolt members talking about it. and i wasnt sure who started it, i just thought it somebody like theo saying something about it, than some 3e guy talking about italright paint chip eater, im not arguing with you i have no clue where you got that from, i was saying that 3EVOLT people seemed salty and dont want LG to be in it, prime example is you typing a fuckin 4 page essay why you believe they dont deserve to be in there, waste is also going over the top causing people to type this 4 page essays, but i believe some 3evolt member started it.I'm not salty, I don't think Waste was being salty either. He made some points why he thinks LG should be HoF, I made some points why I think they shouldn't.yeah trying to shut up a bunch of retards salty about something that happened a year ago, its in the past just let it be, either put them in or dont, no need to argue over a fucking dead gameim still salty about things that happened a year ago! this makes that regiment automatically worse than mine even tho we got smacked at the time in the biggest 1v1 in the game, but they merged with another reg how dare they! its almost like our regiment wasn't just 2 super regs for the longest time, shame on them for merging, lets go complain about them on the thread that's for an all time list. but wait? our leader said they deserve to be on the list? wahh wahh wahh.- 3eVolt oldhead headasses
So there is something you're worse at than trash-talking.
There's no need for you to tell me there's no need to argue over something that happened in a dead game, but here you are doing it.
Havoc started it up, not a 3eVolt member. I'm the only former 3eVolt person arguing about it, so yeah, I assumed you were talking to me.
No one from 3eVolt even cares about what happened anymore, myself included, and how I felt about things back then doesn't influence my thought process now.
i can literally look at the last 2 pages and see 4 3evolt members talking about it. and i wasnt sure who started it, i just thought it somebody like theo saying something about it, than some 3e guy talking about italright paint chip eater, im not arguing with you i have no clue where you got that from, i was saying that 3EVOLT people seemed salty and dont want LG to be in it, prime example is you typing a fuckin 4 page essay why you believe they dont deserve to be in there, waste is also going over the top causing people to type this 4 page essays, but i believe some 3evolt member started it.I'm not salty, I don't think Waste was being salty either. He made some points why he thinks LG should be HoF, I made some points why I think they shouldn't.yeah trying to shut up a bunch of retards salty about something that happened a year ago, its in the past just let it be, either put them in or dont, no need to argue over a fucking dead gameim still salty about things that happened a year ago! this makes that regiment automatically worse than mine even tho we got smacked at the time in the biggest 1v1 in the game, but they merged with another reg how dare they! its almost like our regiment wasn't just 2 super regs for the longest time, shame on them for merging, lets go complain about them on the thread that's for an all time list. but wait? our leader said they deserve to be on the list? wahh wahh wahh.- 3eVolt oldhead headasses
So there is something you're worse at than trash-talking.
There's no need for you to tell me there's no need to argue over something that happened in a dead game, but here you are doing it.
Havoc started it up, not a 3eVolt member. I'm the only former 3eVolt person arguing about it, so yeah, I assumed you were talking to me.
No one from 3eVolt even cares about what happened anymore, myself included, and how I felt about things back then doesn't influence my thought process now.
SpoilerAlmost all of those except for the last 2 were in the first 2 months that LG was a regiment when we were still working on improving. One of the reasons the other regiments are in the HoF is because they had to build up to there skill, I'm pretty sure when the 2ndQF, 1stFKI, 63e, and 3eVolt all formed they were not immediately getting all 9-1's and 10-0's, hell there weren't even that many 1v1s back then and the one's that there were was on the old system of best of two maps. (that last part isn't relevant at all don't mind it)Spoiler6-4 vs 30th WIN
2-8 vs Sil LOSS
5-5 vs USMC TIE
6-4 vs 30th WIN
4-6 vs 63e LOSS
5-5 vs 45e TIE
4-6 vs 6teSLR LOSS
4-6 vs 4th LOSS
6-4 vs 32e WIN NANWL
5-5 vs 30th TIENANWL
6-4 vs 30th WIN
6-4 Vs 63e WIN[close]
These are the ones I'm talking about. Only reason 45e is in there is cause 4th managed to 7-3 and 5-5 them during that time, I don't count the close calls with them later against LG. But 4th was garbage at that time, quite possibly the worst regiment I'd ever been apart of (I still enjoyed my time there tho, still fun guys to play with), they managed to put up the same scores as LG did against pretty much all these regiments and even was 1-1 against the LG.
But I played against these regiments in a good regiment (1er) and a terrible one (4th), so I can say first hand, none of them were good. 1er spent the later part of 2016 stomping every regiment until we disbanded, and when we came back (since that's really what 3eVolt should be called), we picked up where we left off. There was simply nothing impressive about late 2016-2017 regiments.
LG dominated group fights until 1er came back, and even did great against 1er in that department, but LG wasn't as good all-around, hence why when 1er reformed it beat LG 9-1, 7-3, and 7-3. And that was right after LG had won NANWL S7. It wasn't until after 45e merged that LG 7-3'd them back. Again, I don't count the merge against LG, but that happened in like July, and LG disbanded in January of this year + there was a break in like september-october because of Holdfast. After the merge, LG went back and forth with 1er in groupfights still. I'm not saying this is unimpressive, it is impressive. But it's only about as good as 4th/98th ever did for about the same period of time.
So if we're considering LG for a spot in the HoF, I want 4th/98th considered as well ::)
Once the LG figured our stuff out you can see almost everything was a complete stomping, excluding a few linebattles. Groupfighting wise everything pretty much a stomping.
And I know for a fact even when the 12th was at it's prime there were some close 1v1s, for example we almost lost a 1v1 to Pinkertons 58th, a regiment full of native players that had hardly touched NW.
Take a look at the 71st also, most of their wins are stomps much like the LG but they have a good number of close wins and losses to regiments that are no where near them in skill.
You can have all the best players in the game vs a group of shitters and still lose rounds it 1v1s based on the map and if your shots hit or not, what matters in the end is if you can clinch out the win or not.
As for 4th/98th, I wasn't playing during that time so I have no idea
What makes the LG HoF worthy isn't the first few months in existence, it's the last 5-6 months[close]
You can't compare 2ndQF, 1stFKI, and 3eVolt starting out to LG starting out. All those regiments started out when the game was brand new and people were still figuring everything out. Everyone in LG had experience. It's not like you went on NA1, grabbed a bunch of first-time players, trained them up to win stuff. Furthermore, quite a few of those players had been playing in LG when LG was Neo-Nr37, so it isn't even like their chemistry was that new either. So the excuse of it being early and needing to train doesn't really work.Stomps9-1 vs 32e WIN <--- Bad
8-2 vs AEF WIN <--- Bad
9-1 vs USMC WIN <--- Bad
8-2 vs 57th WIN <---Impressive
9-1 vs AEF WIN <---Still bad
9-1 vs 4eGren WIN <--- Mega-Bad (lost to an EU reg)
9-1 vs 4th WIN NANWL <--- Very Bad
10-0 vs USMC WIN NANWL <--- Still Bad
8-2 vs AEF WIN <----Still Bad
10-0 vs LIR WIN NANWL <---Bad
8-2 vs 41st WIN <--- Decent
10-0 vs 39th WIN <--- Terrible
10-0 vs 18e WIN <--- EU
10-0 26e WIN <--- Bottom of the Barrel Bad
10-0 Vth WIN <--- 1st time competitor
10-0 Vs 26e WIN <--- BotB Bad
10-0 Vs 54th WIN <--- 1st time competitor
10-0 Vs 26e WIN <--- BotB Bad
9-1 vs 26e WIN <--- BotB Bad
8-2 vs 91st WIN <--- Good[close]
Of the 20 stomps, 2 were impressive, 1 was decent, 4 were on the same bottom of the barrel regiment, 2 were on first-time competitors, rest were on objectively bad regiments. The only regiments that existed at the time who could've passed for a League 1 regiment in previous seasons (excluding LG obviously) were, 30th, 57th/45e, and 1er/3eVolt when it reformed. Of those, 30th and 45e were like mid-low level League 1 regiments, and 1er/3eVolt being the only one that could objectively be considered contender-level.30th Record6-4 Wn
5-5 Tie
6-4 Win
1v1's:2-1-0
15-8 win
15-9 win
Groupfights:2-0-0
Total:4-1-0[close]45e/57th/2pp/85e Record5-5 Tie
7-3 Win
8-2 Win
6-4 Win
6-4 Win
1v1's:4-1-0
20-8 Win
15-9 Win
15-10 Win
15-12 Win
Groupfights: 4-0-0
Total: 8-1-0[close]1er/3eVolt Record1-9 Loss
5-5 Tie
3-7 Loss
3-7 Loss
7-3 Win
1v1's: 1-1-3
15-13 Win
6-20 Loss
13-20 Loss
15-20 Loss
20-8 Win
15-11 Win
13-15 Loss
19-25 Loss
15-12 Win
5-20 Loss
4-10 Loss
15-7 Win
19-20 Loss
8-20 Loss
15-10 Win
9-20 Loss
20-10 Win
Groupfights: 7-0-10
Total: 8-1-13[close]
With the record, you posted (plus a tie I added from our record you didn't add to yours) LG's record for 1v1's is 31-4-7, only 13/42 of those were against a worthwhile regiment though. Between the 30th and 45e, LG had 6 wins, 2 ties, 0 losses. But 4/6 wins were 6-4's...and as said, those regiments were like middle-bottom League 1 level. With 1er/3eVolt which could've been a contending regiment, LG was 1-1-3, with their win coming after absorbing one of the only other passable League 1 regiments + some other misc players. They won NAPL S2 on that, and they didn't do anything after that aside from trading groupfight wins with 1er/3eVolt, and stomp 63e + some no name regiments in groupfights, and stomp some bottom of the barrel regiments in 1v1's.
To sum it up, the only regiments that LG ever really stomped were garbage regiments, and any half-decent regiment actually managed to consistently put up a solid fight against them, and having a losing record against a contender-level regiment, reaching contender level themselves after the merge. But everything up to that merge LG would've been considered a high-mid level League 1 regiment.
I don't count the merge against LG, but it did limit the amount of competition in the comp scene, and therefore limited the number of opportunities LG had to showcase their skill. Had the community been bigger (like in S6 when NANWL required 3 Leagues) then I'd be able to have more to go on, but the community was already small, and the merge made it smaller, leaving them only 1 worthwhile regiment to showcase their skill against, and they went even with them.
Sidenote: Although I looked mostly at 1v1's, it's all equally applicable to groupfights, and every win against regiments other than 1er/3eVolt, 30th and 45e/57th is honestly just record padding fluff.Quote from: Waste-Too-CoolYou can have all the best players in the game vs a group of shitters and still lose rounds it 1v1s based on the map and if your shots hit or not, what matters in the end is if you can clinch out the win or not.
If that was the case, stacking and bandwagoning regiments wouldn't matter so much. But regiments successes in 1v1's are based on 1)Quality of Leader and 2) Quality of players. If you have "all the best players in the game" and you're losing rounds to garbage players, then your leader is an actual potato, and theirs is Napoleon freakin Bonaparte re-incarnated.Quote from: Waste-Too-CoolWhat makes the LG HoF worthy isn't the first few months in existence, it's the last 5-6 monthsI try to look at a regiment from start to finish.
45e carried LG.
3 i thought winters said something about it. but nevermindIf we're using this logic, 4th/98th should be HoF cause we competed with 3eVolt in 2016 and went back and forth with 71st during that same year, which is 2 HoF regiments.
SpoilerSpoilerAlmost all of those except for the last 2 were in the first 2 months that LG was a regiment when we were still working on improving. One of the reasons the other regiments are in the HoF is because they had to build up to there skill, I'm pretty sure when the 2ndQF, 1stFKI, 63e, and 3eVolt all formed they were not immediately getting all 9-1's and 10-0's, hell there weren't even that many 1v1s back then and the one's that there were was on the old system of best of two maps. (that last part isn't relevant at all don't mind it)Spoiler6-4 vs 30th WIN
2-8 vs Sil LOSS
5-5 vs USMC TIE
6-4 vs 30th WIN
4-6 vs 63e LOSS
5-5 vs 45e TIE
4-6 vs 6teSLR LOSS
4-6 vs 4th LOSS
6-4 vs 32e WIN NANWL
5-5 vs 30th TIENANWL
6-4 vs 30th WIN
6-4 Vs 63e WIN[close]
These are the ones I'm talking about. Only reason 45e is in there is cause 4th managed to 7-3 and 5-5 them during that time, I don't count the close calls with them later against LG. But 4th was garbage at that time, quite possibly the worst regiment I'd ever been apart of (I still enjoyed my time there tho, still fun guys to play with), they managed to put up the same scores as LG did against pretty much all these regiments and even was 1-1 against the LG.
But I played against these regiments in a good regiment (1er) and a terrible one (4th), so I can say first hand, none of them were good. 1er spent the later part of 2016 stomping every regiment until we disbanded, and when we came back (since that's really what 3eVolt should be called), we picked up where we left off. There was simply nothing impressive about late 2016-2017 regiments.
LG dominated group fights until 1er came back, and even did great against 1er in that department, but LG wasn't as good all-around, hence why when 1er reformed it beat LG 9-1, 7-3, and 7-3. And that was right after LG had won NANWL S7. It wasn't until after 45e merged that LG 7-3'd them back. Again, I don't count the merge against LG, but that happened in like July, and LG disbanded in January of this year + there was a break in like september-october because of Holdfast. After the merge, LG went back and forth with 1er in groupfights still. I'm not saying this is unimpressive, it is impressive. But it's only about as good as 4th/98th ever did for about the same period of time.
So if we're considering LG for a spot in the HoF, I want 4th/98th considered as well ::)
Once the LG figured our stuff out you can see almost everything was a complete stomping, excluding a few linebattles. Groupfighting wise everything pretty much a stomping.
And I know for a fact even when the 12th was at it's prime there were some close 1v1s, for example we almost lost a 1v1 to Pinkertons 58th, a regiment full of native players that had hardly touched NW.
Take a look at the 71st also, most of their wins are stomps much like the LG but they have a good number of close wins and losses to regiments that are no where near them in skill.
You can have all the best players in the game vs a group of shitters and still lose rounds it 1v1s based on the map and if your shots hit or not, what matters in the end is if you can clinch out the win or not.
As for 4th/98th, I wasn't playing during that time so I have no idea
What makes the LG HoF worthy isn't the first few months in existence, it's the last 5-6 months[close]
You can't compare 2ndQF, 1stFKI, and 3eVolt starting out to LG starting out. All those regiments started out when the game was brand new and people were still figuring everything out. Everyone in LG had experience. It's not like you went on NA1, grabbed a bunch of first-time players, trained them up to win stuff. Furthermore, quite a few of those players had been playing in LG when LG was Neo-Nr37, so it isn't even like their chemistry was that new either. So the excuse of it being early and needing to train doesn't really work.Stomps9-1 vs 32e WIN <--- Bad
8-2 vs AEF WIN <--- Bad
9-1 vs USMC WIN <--- Bad
8-2 vs 57th WIN <---Impressive
9-1 vs AEF WIN <---Still bad
9-1 vs 4eGren WIN <--- Mega-Bad (lost to an EU reg)
9-1 vs 4th WIN NANWL <--- Very Bad
10-0 vs USMC WIN NANWL <--- Still Bad
8-2 vs AEF WIN <----Still Bad
10-0 vs LIR WIN NANWL <---Bad
8-2 vs 41st WIN <--- Decent
10-0 vs 39th WIN <--- Terrible
10-0 vs 18e WIN <--- EU
10-0 26e WIN <--- Bottom of the Barrel Bad
10-0 Vth WIN <--- 1st time competitor
10-0 Vs 26e WIN <--- BotB Bad
10-0 Vs 54th WIN <--- 1st time competitor
10-0 Vs 26e WIN <--- BotB Bad
9-1 vs 26e WIN <--- BotB Bad
8-2 vs 91st WIN <--- Good[close]
Of the 20 stomps, 2 were impressive, 1 was decent, 4 were on the same bottom of the barrel regiment, 2 were on first-time competitors, rest were on objectively bad regiments. The only regiments that existed at the time who could've passed for a League 1 regiment in previous seasons (excluding LG obviously) were, 30th, 57th/45e, and 1er/3eVolt when it reformed. Of those, 30th and 45e were like mid-low level League 1 regiments, and 1er/3eVolt being the only one that could objectively be considered contender-level.30th Record6-4 Wn
5-5 Tie
6-4 Win
1v1's:2-1-0
15-8 win
15-9 win
Groupfights:2-0-0
Total:4-1-0[close]45e/57th/2pp/85e Record5-5 Tie
7-3 Win
8-2 Win
6-4 Win
6-4 Win
1v1's:4-1-0
20-8 Win
15-9 Win
15-10 Win
15-12 Win
Groupfights: 4-0-0
Total: 8-1-0[close]1er/3eVolt Record1-9 Loss
5-5 Tie
3-7 Loss
3-7 Loss
7-3 Win
1v1's: 1-1-3
15-13 Win
6-20 Loss
13-20 Loss
15-20 Loss
20-8 Win
15-11 Win
13-15 Loss
19-25 Loss
15-12 Win
5-20 Loss
4-10 Loss
15-7 Win
19-20 Loss
8-20 Loss
15-10 Win
9-20 Loss
20-10 Win
Groupfights: 7-0-10
Total: 8-1-13[close]
With the record, you posted (plus a tie I added from our record you didn't add to yours) LG's record for 1v1's is 31-4-7, only 13/42 of those were against a worthwhile regiment though. Between the 30th and 45e, LG had 6 wins, 2 ties, 0 losses. But 4/6 wins were 6-4's...and as said, those regiments were like middle-bottom League 1 level. With 1er/3eVolt which could've been a contending regiment, LG was 1-1-3, with their win coming after absorbing one of the only other passable League 1 regiments + some other misc players. They won NAPL S2 on that, and they didn't do anything after that aside from trading groupfight wins with 1er/3eVolt, and stomp 63e + some no name regiments in groupfights, and stomp some bottom of the barrel regiments in 1v1's.
To sum it up, the only regiments that LG ever really stomped were garbage regiments, and any half-decent regiment actually managed to consistently put up a solid fight against them, and having a losing record against a contender-level regiment, reaching contender level themselves after the merge. But everything up to that merge LG would've been considered a high-mid level League 1 regiment.
I don't count the merge against LG, but it did limit the amount of competition in the comp scene, and therefore limited the number of opportunities LG had to showcase their skill. Had the community been bigger (like in S6 when NANWL required 3 Leagues) then I'd be able to have more to go on, but the community was already small, and the merge made it smaller, leaving them only 1 worthwhile regiment to showcase their skill against, and they went even with them.
Sidenote: Although I looked mostly at 1v1's, it's all equally applicable to groupfights, and every win against regiments other than 1er/3eVolt, 30th and 45e/57th is honestly just record padding fluff.Quote from: Waste-Too-CoolYou can have all the best players in the game vs a group of shitters and still lose rounds it 1v1s based on the map and if your shots hit or not, what matters in the end is if you can clinch out the win or not.
If that was the case, stacking and bandwagoning regiments wouldn't matter so much. But regiments successes in 1v1's are based on 1)Quality of Leader and 2) Quality of players. If you have "all the best players in the game" and you're losing rounds to garbage players, then your leader is an actual potato, and theirs is Napoleon freakin Bonaparte re-incarnated.Quote from: Waste-Too-CoolWhat makes the LG HoF worthy isn't the first few months in existence, it's the last 5-6 monthsI try to look at a regiment from start to finish.[close]45e carried LG.3 i thought winters said something about it. but nevermindIf we're using this logic, 4th/98th should be HoF cause we competed with 3eVolt in 2016 and went back and forth with 71st during that same year, which is 2 HoF regiments.
yeah i originally said something about how risk wasnt really talking about it, i must of removed it. it looked like suns was trying to argue that the lg shouldn't get in cus it was carried by the 45eSpoilerSpoilerAlmost all of those except for the last 2 were in the first 2 months that LG was a regiment when we were still working on improving. One of the reasons the other regiments are in the HoF is because they had to build up to there skill, I'm pretty sure when the 2ndQF, 1stFKI, 63e, and 3eVolt all formed they were not immediately getting all 9-1's and 10-0's, hell there weren't even that many 1v1s back then and the one's that there were was on the old system of best of two maps. (that last part isn't relevant at all don't mind it)Spoiler6-4 vs 30th WIN
2-8 vs Sil LOSS
5-5 vs USMC TIE
6-4 vs 30th WIN
4-6 vs 63e LOSS
5-5 vs 45e TIE
4-6 vs 6teSLR LOSS
4-6 vs 4th LOSS
6-4 vs 32e WIN NANWL
5-5 vs 30th TIENANWL
6-4 vs 30th WIN
6-4 Vs 63e WIN[close]
These are the ones I'm talking about. Only reason 45e is in there is cause 4th managed to 7-3 and 5-5 them during that time, I don't count the close calls with them later against LG. But 4th was garbage at that time, quite possibly the worst regiment I'd ever been apart of (I still enjoyed my time there tho, still fun guys to play with), they managed to put up the same scores as LG did against pretty much all these regiments and even was 1-1 against the LG.
But I played against these regiments in a good regiment (1er) and a terrible one (4th), so I can say first hand, none of them were good. 1er spent the later part of 2016 stomping every regiment until we disbanded, and when we came back (since that's really what 3eVolt should be called), we picked up where we left off. There was simply nothing impressive about late 2016-2017 regiments.
LG dominated group fights until 1er came back, and even did great against 1er in that department, but LG wasn't as good all-around, hence why when 1er reformed it beat LG 9-1, 7-3, and 7-3. And that was right after LG had won NANWL S7. It wasn't until after 45e merged that LG 7-3'd them back. Again, I don't count the merge against LG, but that happened in like July, and LG disbanded in January of this year + there was a break in like september-october because of Holdfast. After the merge, LG went back and forth with 1er in groupfights still. I'm not saying this is unimpressive, it is impressive. But it's only about as good as 4th/98th ever did for about the same period of time.
So if we're considering LG for a spot in the HoF, I want 4th/98th considered as well ::)
Once the LG figured our stuff out you can see almost everything was a complete stomping, excluding a few linebattles. Groupfighting wise everything pretty much a stomping.
And I know for a fact even when the 12th was at it's prime there were some close 1v1s, for example we almost lost a 1v1 to Pinkertons 58th, a regiment full of native players that had hardly touched NW.
Take a look at the 71st also, most of their wins are stomps much like the LG but they have a good number of close wins and losses to regiments that are no where near them in skill.
You can have all the best players in the game vs a group of shitters and still lose rounds it 1v1s based on the map and if your shots hit or not, what matters in the end is if you can clinch out the win or not.
As for 4th/98th, I wasn't playing during that time so I have no idea
What makes the LG HoF worthy isn't the first few months in existence, it's the last 5-6 months[close]
You can't compare 2ndQF, 1stFKI, and 3eVolt starting out to LG starting out. All those regiments started out when the game was brand new and people were still figuring everything out. Everyone in LG had experience. It's not like you went on NA1, grabbed a bunch of first-time players, trained them up to win stuff. Furthermore, quite a few of those players had been playing in LG when LG was Neo-Nr37, so it isn't even like their chemistry was that new either. So the excuse of it being early and needing to train doesn't really work.Stomps9-1 vs 32e WIN <--- Bad
8-2 vs AEF WIN <--- Bad
9-1 vs USMC WIN <--- Bad
8-2 vs 57th WIN <---Impressive
9-1 vs AEF WIN <---Still bad
9-1 vs 4eGren WIN <--- Mega-Bad (lost to an EU reg)
9-1 vs 4th WIN NANWL <--- Very Bad
10-0 vs USMC WIN NANWL <--- Still Bad
8-2 vs AEF WIN <----Still Bad
10-0 vs LIR WIN NANWL <---Bad
8-2 vs 41st WIN <--- Decent
10-0 vs 39th WIN <--- Terrible
10-0 vs 18e WIN <--- EU
10-0 26e WIN <--- Bottom of the Barrel Bad
10-0 Vth WIN <--- 1st time competitor
10-0 Vs 26e WIN <--- BotB Bad
10-0 Vs 54th WIN <--- 1st time competitor
10-0 Vs 26e WIN <--- BotB Bad
9-1 vs 26e WIN <--- BotB Bad
8-2 vs 91st WIN <--- Good[close]
Of the 20 stomps, 2 were impressive, 1 was decent, 4 were on the same bottom of the barrel regiment, 2 were on first-time competitors, rest were on objectively bad regiments. The only regiments that existed at the time who could've passed for a League 1 regiment in previous seasons (excluding LG obviously) were, 30th, 57th/45e, and 1er/3eVolt when it reformed. Of those, 30th and 45e were like mid-low level League 1 regiments, and 1er/3eVolt being the only one that could objectively be considered contender-level.30th Record6-4 Wn
5-5 Tie
6-4 Win
1v1's:2-1-0
15-8 win
15-9 win
Groupfights:2-0-0
Total:4-1-0[close]45e/57th/2pp/85e Record5-5 Tie
7-3 Win
8-2 Win
6-4 Win
6-4 Win
1v1's:4-1-0
20-8 Win
15-9 Win
15-10 Win
15-12 Win
Groupfights: 4-0-0
Total: 8-1-0[close]1er/3eVolt Record1-9 Loss
5-5 Tie
3-7 Loss
3-7 Loss
7-3 Win
1v1's: 1-1-3
15-13 Win
6-20 Loss
13-20 Loss
15-20 Loss
20-8 Win
15-11 Win
13-15 Loss
19-25 Loss
15-12 Win
5-20 Loss
4-10 Loss
15-7 Win
19-20 Loss
8-20 Loss
15-10 Win
9-20 Loss
20-10 Win
Groupfights: 7-0-10
Total: 8-1-13[close]
With the record, you posted (plus a tie I added from our record you didn't add to yours) LG's record for 1v1's is 31-4-7, only 13/42 of those were against a worthwhile regiment though. Between the 30th and 45e, LG had 6 wins, 2 ties, 0 losses. But 4/6 wins were 6-4's...and as said, those regiments were like middle-bottom League 1 level. With 1er/3eVolt which could've been a contending regiment, LG was 1-1-3, with their win coming after absorbing one of the only other passable League 1 regiments + some other misc players. They won NAPL S2 on that, and they didn't do anything after that aside from trading groupfight wins with 1er/3eVolt, and stomp 63e + some no name regiments in groupfights, and stomp some bottom of the barrel regiments in 1v1's.
To sum it up, the only regiments that LG ever really stomped were garbage regiments, and any half-decent regiment actually managed to consistently put up a solid fight against them, and having a losing record against a contender-level regiment, reaching contender level themselves after the merge. But everything up to that merge LG would've been considered a high-mid level League 1 regiment.
I don't count the merge against LG, but it did limit the amount of competition in the comp scene, and therefore limited the number of opportunities LG had to showcase their skill. Had the community been bigger (like in S6 when NANWL required 3 Leagues) then I'd be able to have more to go on, but the community was already small, and the merge made it smaller, leaving them only 1 worthwhile regiment to showcase their skill against, and they went even with them.
Sidenote: Although I looked mostly at 1v1's, it's all equally applicable to groupfights, and every win against regiments other than 1er/3eVolt, 30th and 45e/57th is honestly just record padding fluff.Quote from: Waste-Too-CoolYou can have all the best players in the game vs a group of shitters and still lose rounds it 1v1s based on the map and if your shots hit or not, what matters in the end is if you can clinch out the win or not.
If that was the case, stacking and bandwagoning regiments wouldn't matter so much. But regiments successes in 1v1's are based on 1)Quality of Leader and 2) Quality of players. If you have "all the best players in the game" and you're losing rounds to garbage players, then your leader is an actual potato, and theirs is Napoleon freakin Bonaparte re-incarnated.Quote from: Waste-Too-CoolWhat makes the LG HoF worthy isn't the first few months in existence, it's the last 5-6 monthsI try to look at a regiment from start to finish.[close]45e carried LG.3 i thought winters said something about it. but nevermindIf we're using this logic, 4th/98th should be HoF cause we competed with 3eVolt in 2016 and went back and forth with 71st during that same year, which is 2 HoF regiments.
Suns wasn't commenting on whether LG should be HoF or not, he was just saying 45e carried LG.
Risk quoted something I wrote, that's not really talking about it.
yeah i originally said something about how risk wasnt really talking about it, i must of removed it. it looked like suns was trying to argue that the lg shouldn't get in cus it was carried by the 45eSpoilerSpoilerAlmost all of those except for the last 2 were in the first 2 months that LG was a regiment when we were still working on improving. One of the reasons the other regiments are in the HoF is because they had to build up to there skill, I'm pretty sure when the 2ndQF, 1stFKI, 63e, and 3eVolt all formed they were not immediately getting all 9-1's and 10-0's, hell there weren't even that many 1v1s back then and the one's that there were was on the old system of best of two maps. (that last part isn't relevant at all don't mind it)Spoiler6-4 vs 30th WIN
2-8 vs Sil LOSS
5-5 vs USMC TIE
6-4 vs 30th WIN
4-6 vs 63e LOSS
5-5 vs 45e TIE
4-6 vs 6teSLR LOSS
4-6 vs 4th LOSS
6-4 vs 32e WIN NANWL
5-5 vs 30th TIENANWL
6-4 vs 30th WIN
6-4 Vs 63e WIN[close]
These are the ones I'm talking about. Only reason 45e is in there is cause 4th managed to 7-3 and 5-5 them during that time, I don't count the close calls with them later against LG. But 4th was garbage at that time, quite possibly the worst regiment I'd ever been apart of (I still enjoyed my time there tho, still fun guys to play with), they managed to put up the same scores as LG did against pretty much all these regiments and even was 1-1 against the LG.
But I played against these regiments in a good regiment (1er) and a terrible one (4th), so I can say first hand, none of them were good. 1er spent the later part of 2016 stomping every regiment until we disbanded, and when we came back (since that's really what 3eVolt should be called), we picked up where we left off. There was simply nothing impressive about late 2016-2017 regiments.
LG dominated group fights until 1er came back, and even did great against 1er in that department, but LG wasn't as good all-around, hence why when 1er reformed it beat LG 9-1, 7-3, and 7-3. And that was right after LG had won NANWL S7. It wasn't until after 45e merged that LG 7-3'd them back. Again, I don't count the merge against LG, but that happened in like July, and LG disbanded in January of this year + there was a break in like september-october because of Holdfast. After the merge, LG went back and forth with 1er in groupfights still. I'm not saying this is unimpressive, it is impressive. But it's only about as good as 4th/98th ever did for about the same period of time.
So if we're considering LG for a spot in the HoF, I want 4th/98th considered as well ::)
Once the LG figured our stuff out you can see almost everything was a complete stomping, excluding a few linebattles. Groupfighting wise everything pretty much a stomping.
And I know for a fact even when the 12th was at it's prime there were some close 1v1s, for example we almost lost a 1v1 to Pinkertons 58th, a regiment full of native players that had hardly touched NW.
Take a look at the 71st also, most of their wins are stomps much like the LG but they have a good number of close wins and losses to regiments that are no where near them in skill.
You can have all the best players in the game vs a group of shitters and still lose rounds it 1v1s based on the map and if your shots hit or not, what matters in the end is if you can clinch out the win or not.
As for 4th/98th, I wasn't playing during that time so I have no idea
What makes the LG HoF worthy isn't the first few months in existence, it's the last 5-6 months[close]
You can't compare 2ndQF, 1stFKI, and 3eVolt starting out to LG starting out. All those regiments started out when the game was brand new and people were still figuring everything out. Everyone in LG had experience. It's not like you went on NA1, grabbed a bunch of first-time players, trained them up to win stuff. Furthermore, quite a few of those players had been playing in LG when LG was Neo-Nr37, so it isn't even like their chemistry was that new either. So the excuse of it being early and needing to train doesn't really work.Stomps9-1 vs 32e WIN <--- Bad
8-2 vs AEF WIN <--- Bad
9-1 vs USMC WIN <--- Bad
8-2 vs 57th WIN <---Impressive
9-1 vs AEF WIN <---Still bad
9-1 vs 4eGren WIN <--- Mega-Bad (lost to an EU reg)
9-1 vs 4th WIN NANWL <--- Very Bad
10-0 vs USMC WIN NANWL <--- Still Bad
8-2 vs AEF WIN <----Still Bad
10-0 vs LIR WIN NANWL <---Bad
8-2 vs 41st WIN <--- Decent
10-0 vs 39th WIN <--- Terrible
10-0 vs 18e WIN <--- EU
10-0 26e WIN <--- Bottom of the Barrel Bad
10-0 Vth WIN <--- 1st time competitor
10-0 Vs 26e WIN <--- BotB Bad
10-0 Vs 54th WIN <--- 1st time competitor
10-0 Vs 26e WIN <--- BotB Bad
9-1 vs 26e WIN <--- BotB Bad
8-2 vs 91st WIN <--- Good[close]
Of the 20 stomps, 2 were impressive, 1 was decent, 4 were on the same bottom of the barrel regiment, 2 were on first-time competitors, rest were on objectively bad regiments. The only regiments that existed at the time who could've passed for a League 1 regiment in previous seasons (excluding LG obviously) were, 30th, 57th/45e, and 1er/3eVolt when it reformed. Of those, 30th and 45e were like mid-low level League 1 regiments, and 1er/3eVolt being the only one that could objectively be considered contender-level.30th Record6-4 Wn
5-5 Tie
6-4 Win
1v1's:2-1-0
15-8 win
15-9 win
Groupfights:2-0-0
Total:4-1-0[close]45e/57th/2pp/85e Record5-5 Tie
7-3 Win
8-2 Win
6-4 Win
6-4 Win
1v1's:4-1-0
20-8 Win
15-9 Win
15-10 Win
15-12 Win
Groupfights: 4-0-0
Total: 8-1-0[close]1er/3eVolt Record1-9 Loss
5-5 Tie
3-7 Loss
3-7 Loss
7-3 Win
1v1's: 1-1-3
15-13 Win
6-20 Loss
13-20 Loss
15-20 Loss
20-8 Win
15-11 Win
13-15 Loss
19-25 Loss
15-12 Win
5-20 Loss
4-10 Loss
15-7 Win
19-20 Loss
8-20 Loss
15-10 Win
9-20 Loss
20-10 Win
Groupfights: 7-0-10
Total: 8-1-13[close]
With the record, you posted (plus a tie I added from our record you didn't add to yours) LG's record for 1v1's is 31-4-7, only 13/42 of those were against a worthwhile regiment though. Between the 30th and 45e, LG had 6 wins, 2 ties, 0 losses. But 4/6 wins were 6-4's...and as said, those regiments were like middle-bottom League 1 level. With 1er/3eVolt which could've been a contending regiment, LG was 1-1-3, with their win coming after absorbing one of the only other passable League 1 regiments + some other misc players. They won NAPL S2 on that, and they didn't do anything after that aside from trading groupfight wins with 1er/3eVolt, and stomp 63e + some no name regiments in groupfights, and stomp some bottom of the barrel regiments in 1v1's.
To sum it up, the only regiments that LG ever really stomped were garbage regiments, and any half-decent regiment actually managed to consistently put up a solid fight against them, and having a losing record against a contender-level regiment, reaching contender level themselves after the merge. But everything up to that merge LG would've been considered a high-mid level League 1 regiment.
I don't count the merge against LG, but it did limit the amount of competition in the comp scene, and therefore limited the number of opportunities LG had to showcase their skill. Had the community been bigger (like in S6 when NANWL required 3 Leagues) then I'd be able to have more to go on, but the community was already small, and the merge made it smaller, leaving them only 1 worthwhile regiment to showcase their skill against, and they went even with them.
Sidenote: Although I looked mostly at 1v1's, it's all equally applicable to groupfights, and every win against regiments other than 1er/3eVolt, 30th and 45e/57th is honestly just record padding fluff.Quote from: Waste-Too-CoolYou can have all the best players in the game vs a group of shitters and still lose rounds it 1v1s based on the map and if your shots hit or not, what matters in the end is if you can clinch out the win or not.
If that was the case, stacking and bandwagoning regiments wouldn't matter so much. But regiments successes in 1v1's are based on 1)Quality of Leader and 2) Quality of players. If you have "all the best players in the game" and you're losing rounds to garbage players, then your leader is an actual potato, and theirs is Napoleon freakin Bonaparte re-incarnated.Quote from: Waste-Too-CoolWhat makes the LG HoF worthy isn't the first few months in existence, it's the last 5-6 monthsI try to look at a regiment from start to finish.[close]45e carried LG.3 i thought winters said something about it. but nevermindIf we're using this logic, 4th/98th should be HoF cause we competed with 3eVolt in 2016 and went back and forth with 71st during that same year, which is 2 HoF regiments.
Suns wasn't commenting on whether LG should be HoF or not, he was just saying 45e carried LG.
Risk quoted something I wrote, that's not really talking about it.
SpoilerAlmost all of those except for the last 2 were in the first 2 months that LG was a regiment when we were still working on improving. One of the reasons the other regiments are in the HoF is because they had to build up to there skill, I'm pretty sure when the 2ndQF, 1stFKI, 63e, and 3eVolt all formed they were not immediately getting all 9-1's and 10-0's, hell there weren't even that many 1v1s back then and the one's that there were was on the old system of best of two maps. (that last part isn't relevant at all don't mind it)Spoiler6-4 vs 30th WIN
2-8 vs Sil LOSS
5-5 vs USMC TIE
6-4 vs 30th WIN
4-6 vs 63e LOSS
5-5 vs 45e TIE
4-6 vs 6teSLR LOSS
4-6 vs 4th LOSS
6-4 vs 32e WIN NANWL
5-5 vs 30th TIENANWL
6-4 vs 30th WIN
6-4 Vs 63e WIN[close]
These are the ones I'm talking about. Only reason 45e is in there is cause 4th managed to 7-3 and 5-5 them during that time, I don't count the close calls with them later against LG. But 4th was garbage at that time, quite possibly the worst regiment I'd ever been apart of (I still enjoyed my time there tho, still fun guys to play with), they managed to put up the same scores as LG did against pretty much all these regiments and even was 1-1 against the LG.
But I played against these regiments in a good regiment (1er) and a terrible one (4th), so I can say first hand, none of them were good. 1er spent the later part of 2016 stomping every regiment until we disbanded, and when we came back (since that's really what 3eVolt should be called), we picked up where we left off. There was simply nothing impressive about late 2016-2017 regiments.
LG dominated group fights until 1er came back, and even did great against 1er in that department, but LG wasn't as good all-around, hence why when 1er reformed it beat LG 9-1, 7-3, and 7-3. And that was right after LG had won NANWL S7. It wasn't until after 45e merged that LG 7-3'd them back. Again, I don't count the merge against LG, but that happened in like July, and LG disbanded in January of this year + there was a break in like september-october because of Holdfast. After the merge, LG went back and forth with 1er in groupfights still. I'm not saying this is unimpressive, it is impressive. But it's only about as good as 4th/98th ever did for about the same period of time.
So if we're considering LG for a spot in the HoF, I want 4th/98th considered as well ::)
Once the LG figured our stuff out you can see almost everything was a complete stomping, excluding a few linebattles. Groupfighting wise everything pretty much a stomping.
And I know for a fact even when the 12th was at it's prime there were some close 1v1s, for example we almost lost a 1v1 to Pinkertons 58th, a regiment full of native players that had hardly touched NW.
Take a look at the 71st also, most of their wins are stomps much like the LG but they have a good number of close wins and losses to regiments that are no where near them in skill.
You can have all the best players in the game vs a group of shitters and still lose rounds it 1v1s based on the map and if your shots hit or not, what matters in the end is if you can clinch out the win or not.
As for 4th/98th, I wasn't playing during that time so I have no idea
What makes the LG HoF worthy isn't the first few months in existence, it's the last 5-6 months[close]
You can't compare 2ndQF, 1stFKI, and 3eVolt starting out to LG starting out. All those regiments started out when the game was brand new and people were still figuring everything out. Everyone in LG had experience. It's not like you went on NA1, grabbed a bunch of first-time players, trained them up to win stuff. Furthermore, quite a few of those players had been playing in LG when LG was Neo-Nr37, so it isn't even like their chemistry was that new either. So the excuse of it being early and needing to train doesn't really work.Stomps9-1 vs 32e WIN <--- Bad
8-2 vs AEF WIN <--- Bad
9-1 vs USMC WIN <--- Bad
8-2 vs 57th WIN <---Impressive
9-1 vs AEF WIN <---Still bad
9-1 vs 4eGren WIN <--- Mega-Bad (lost to an EU reg)
9-1 vs 4th WIN NANWL <--- Very Bad
10-0 vs USMC WIN NANWL <--- Still Bad
8-2 vs AEF WIN <----Still Bad
10-0 vs LIR WIN NANWL <---Bad
8-2 vs 41st WIN <--- Decent
10-0 vs 39th WIN <--- Terrible
10-0 vs 18e WIN <--- EU
10-0 26e WIN <--- Bottom of the Barrel Bad
10-0 Vth WIN <--- 1st time competitor
10-0 Vs 26e WIN <--- BotB Bad
10-0 Vs 54th WIN <--- 1st time competitor
10-0 Vs 26e WIN <--- BotB Bad
9-1 vs 26e WIN <--- BotB Bad
8-2 vs 91st WIN <--- Good[close]
Of the 20 stomps, 2 were impressive, 1 was decent, 4 were on the same bottom of the barrel regiment, 2 were on first-time competitors, rest were on objectively bad regiments. The only regiments that existed at the time who could've passed for a League 1 regiment in previous seasons (excluding LG obviously) were, 30th, 57th/45e, and 1er/3eVolt when it reformed. Of those, 30th and 45e were like mid-low level League 1 regiments, and 1er/3eVolt being the only one that could objectively be considered contender-level.30th Record6-4 Wn
5-5 Tie
6-4 Win
1v1's:2-1-0
15-8 win
15-9 win
Groupfights:2-0-0
Total:4-1-0[close]45e/57th/2pp/85e Record5-5 Tie
7-3 Win
8-2 Win
6-4 Win
6-4 Win
1v1's:4-1-0
20-8 Win
15-9 Win
15-10 Win
15-12 Win
Groupfights: 4-0-0
Total: 8-1-0[close]1er/3eVolt Record1-9 Loss
5-5 Tie
3-7 Loss
3-7 Loss
7-3 Win
1v1's: 1-1-3
15-13 Win
6-20 Loss
13-20 Loss
15-20 Loss
20-8 Win
15-11 Win
13-15 Loss
19-25 Loss
15-12 Win
5-20 Loss
4-10 Loss
15-7 Win
19-20 Loss
8-20 Loss
15-10 Win
9-20 Loss
20-10 Win
Groupfights: 7-0-10
Total: 8-1-13[close]
With the record, you posted (plus a tie I added from our record you didn't add to yours) LG's record for 1v1's is 31-4-7, only 13/42 of those were against a worthwhile regiment though. Between the 30th and 45e, LG had 6 wins, 2 ties, 0 losses. But 4/6 wins were 6-4's...and as said, those regiments were like middle-bottom League 1 level. With 1er/3eVolt which could've been a contending regiment, LG was 1-1-3, with their win coming after absorbing one of the only other passable League 1 regiments + some other misc players. They won NAPL S2 on that, and they didn't do anything after that aside from trading groupfight wins with 1er/3eVolt, and stomp 63e + some no name regiments in groupfights, and stomp some bottom of the barrel regiments in 1v1's.
To sum it up, the only regiments that LG ever really stomped were garbage regiments, and any half-decent regiment actually managed to consistently put up a solid fight against them, and having a losing record against a contender-level regiment, reaching contender level themselves after the merge. But everything up to that merge LG would've been considered a high-mid level League 1 regiment.
I don't count the merge against LG, but it did limit the amount of competition in the comp scene, and therefore limited the number of opportunities LG had to showcase their skill. Had the community been bigger (like in S6 when NANWL required 3 Leagues) then I'd be able to have more to go on, but the community was already small, and the merge made it smaller, leaving them only 1 worthwhile regiment to showcase their skill against, and they went even with them.
Sidenote: Although I looked mostly at 1v1's, it's all equally applicable to groupfights, and every win against regiments other than 1er/3eVolt, 30th and 45e/57th is honestly just record padding fluff.Quote from: Waste-Too-CoolYou can have all the best players in the game vs a group of shitters and still lose rounds it 1v1s based on the map and if your shots hit or not, what matters in the end is if you can clinch out the win or not.
If that was the case, stacking and bandwagoning regiments wouldn't matter so much. But regiments successes in 1v1's are based on 1)Quality of Leader and 2) Quality of players. If you have "all the best players in the game" and you're losing rounds to garbage players, then your leader is an actual potato, and theirs is Napoleon freakin Bonaparte re-incarnated.Quote from: Waste-Too-CoolWhat makes the LG HoF worthy isn't the first few months in existence, it's the last 5-6 monthsI try to look at a regiment from start to finish.
Who cares? Jesus Christ guys. I hope you guys care about your future kids as much as you do about your online Mount and Blade Napoleonic Wars regiments.boi you're the one who made a current melee list and is still updating it
put 58e on all time
its the only good regiment ive ever been in
HYPOCRITE ALERTWho cares? Jesus Christ guys. I hope you guys care about your future kids as much as you do about your online Mount and Blade Napoleonic Wars regiments.boi you're the one who made a current melee list and is still updating it
put 58e on all timeAp0c tldr; 58e were too much of a bandwagon to be considered for it
its the only good regiment ive ever been in
Who cares? Jesus Christ guys. I hope you guys care about your future kids as much as you do about your online Mount and Blade Napoleonic Wars regiments.
Matt knows a lot about autoblock ::)
Playing videogames does nothing good for your life and can harm it as well, and the sooner you realize that the more at peace with it you'll be
Lol a list I made that I casually check in on and update maybe once a day isn't being on the same level as these dudes arguing for like 40 pages about a regiment that doesn't exist anymore. But yeah I see your point.Who cares? Jesus Christ guys. I hope you guys care about your future kids as much as you do about your online Mount and Blade Napoleonic Wars regiments.boi you're the one who made a current melee list and is still updating it
Playing videogames does nothing good for your life and can harm it as well, and the sooner you realize that the more at peace with it you'll be
RegLatino for the hall of fame or ur list is invalidFuck that, 13th FL
checkmate idiots
I'll raise you a 93rdRegLatino for the hall of fame or ur list is invalidFuck that, 13th FL
checkmate idiots
I'll raise you a 93rdRegLatino for the hall of fame or ur list is invalidFuck that, 13th FL
checkmate idiots
Michael Jordan is def better than LeBron lmfaohow well did mj do before pippen??? Remember when lebron lost in the 1st round???
Jordan's Finals Record: 6-0
LeChoke's Finals Record: 3-6
Including losing 4-0 to Spurs in 2007, 4-0 to Warriors 2018, 4-1 to Spurs in 2014, 4-1 to Warriors in 2015 and 2017
.
He only won the 2013 finals because of Ray Allen's miraculous three point shot in the waning seconds of Game 6. Fact is most of the series he lost weren't even competitive. He will never been considered the greatest of all time.
pretty wellMichael Jordan is def better than LeBron lmfaohow well did mj do before pippen??? Remember when lebron lost in the 1st round???
Jordan's Finals Record: 6-0
LeChoke's Finals Record: 3-6
Including losing 4-0 to Spurs in 2007, 4-0 to Warriors 2018, 4-1 to Spurs in 2014, 4-1 to Warriors in 2015 and 2017
.
He only won the 2013 finals because of Ray Allen's miraculous three point shot in the waning seconds of Game 6. Fact is most of the series he lost weren't even competitive. He will never been considered the greatest of all time.
I believe he was either 1/10 or 1/9 in the playoffs before pippenpretty wellMichael Jordan is def better than LeBron lmfaohow well did mj do before pippen??? Remember when lebron lost in the 1st round???
Jordan's Finals Record: 6-0
LeChoke's Finals Record: 3-6
Including losing 4-0 to Spurs in 2007, 4-0 to Warriors 2018, 4-1 to Spurs in 2014, 4-1 to Warriors in 2015 and 2017
.
He only won the 2013 finals because of Ray Allen's miraculous three point shot in the waning seconds of Game 6. Fact is most of the series he lost weren't even competitive. He will never been considered the greatest of all time.
I'm a Jordan fan but the numbers that Lebron puts up are unreal, especially against the teams that he has to go up against and the numbers he was putting up this year in the playoffs. The point is that two era's with two good regiments should mean both end up in the hall of fame.Michael Jordan is def better than LeBron lmfaohow well did mj do before pippen??? Remember when lebron lost in the 1st round???
Jordan's Finals Record: 6-0
LeChoke's Finals Record: 3-6
Including losing 4-0 to Spurs in 2007, 4-0 to Warriors 2018, 4-1 to Spurs in 2014, 4-1 to Warriors in 2015 and 2017
.
He only won the 2013 finals because of Ray Allen's miraculous three point shot in the waning seconds of Game 6. Fact is most of the series he lost weren't even competitive. He will never been considered the greatest of all time.
Regular season accolades mean nothing if he's consistently getting ran over by the best the West has to offer come finals time. All of his titles, outside of the 4-1 victory against the Thunder, are nothing short of miracles. For example, 2013 - Ray Allen should be getting Lebron's paycheck for saving his postseason legacy with the clutch shot in Game 6. 2016 - "3-1 lead Meme" Kyrie's prefromance and Steph choking as usual handed him another title.I'm a Jordan fan but the numbers that Lebron puts up are unreal, especially against the teams that he has to go up against and the numbers he was putting up this year in the playoffs. The point is that two era's with two good regiments should mean both end up in the hall of fame.Michael Jordan is def better than LeBron lmfaohow well did mj do before pippen??? Remember when lebron lost in the 1st round???
Jordan's Finals Record: 6-0
LeChoke's Finals Record: 3-6
Including losing 4-0 to Spurs in 2007, 4-0 to Warriors 2018, 4-1 to Spurs in 2014, 4-1 to Warriors in 2015 and 2017
.
He only won the 2013 finals because of Ray Allen's miraculous three point shot in the waning seconds of Game 6. Fact is most of the series he lost weren't even competitive. He will never been considered the greatest of all time.
But do you think the LG should be in the HoF?Regular season accolades mean nothing if he's consistently getting ran over by the best the West has to offer come finals time. All of his titles, outside of the 4-1 victory against the Thunder, are nothing short of miracles. For example, 2013 - Ray Allen should be getting Lebron's paycheck for saving his postseason legacy with the clutch shot in Game 6. 2016 - "3-1 lead Meme" Kyrie's prefromance and Steph choking as usual handed him another title.I'm a Jordan fan but the numbers that Lebron puts up are unreal, especially against the teams that he has to go up against and the numbers he was putting up this year in the playoffs. The point is that two era's with two good regiments should mean both end up in the hall of fame.Michael Jordan is def better than LeBron lmfaohow well did mj do before pippen??? Remember when lebron lost in the 1st round???
Jordan's Finals Record: 6-0
LeChoke's Finals Record: 3-6
Including losing 4-0 to Spurs in 2007, 4-0 to Warriors 2018, 4-1 to Spurs in 2014, 4-1 to Warriors in 2015 and 2017
.
He only won the 2013 finals because of Ray Allen's miraculous three point shot in the waning seconds of Game 6. Fact is most of the series he lost weren't even competitive. He will never been considered the greatest of all time.
His record in the finals, doesn't indicate how lucky he is to have those 3 titles. He got fucking romped in the other 6 finals.
-Regular Season God, Postseason Chump Change
He also shouldn't have ran Kyrie off the Cavs
this is literally the most retarded thing I've ever read I don't even know where to begin. Why wouldn't the ball go to the second best pure shooter of all time with the game on the line??? Ray Allen had fuckin 9 points that game while LBJ had a triple double. The "3-1 lead meme" was the greatest comeback in nba history, but it's LBJ's fault for actually having help against the warriors in one of the series??? what about the block on iggy that saved the game??? Championships are a team accomplishment not an individual one, or else we'd call bill russell the goat.Regular season accolades mean nothing if he's consistently getting ran over by the best the West has to offer come finals time. All of his titles, outside of the 4-1 victory against the Thunder, are nothing short of miracles. For example, 2013 - Ray Allen should be getting Lebron's paycheck for saving his postseason legacy with the clutch shot in Game 6. 2016 - "3-1 lead Meme" Kyrie's prefromance and Steph choking as usual handed him another title.I'm a Jordan fan but the numbers that Lebron puts up are unreal, especially against the teams that he has to go up against and the numbers he was putting up this year in the playoffs. The point is that two era's with two good regiments should mean both end up in the hall of fame.Michael Jordan is def better than LeBron lmfaohow well did mj do before pippen??? Remember when lebron lost in the 1st round???
Jordan's Finals Record: 6-0
LeChoke's Finals Record: 3-6
Including losing 4-0 to Spurs in 2007, 4-0 to Warriors 2018, 4-1 to Spurs in 2014, 4-1 to Warriors in 2015 and 2017
.
He only won the 2013 finals because of Ray Allen's miraculous three point shot in the waning seconds of Game 6. Fact is most of the series he lost weren't even competitive. He will never been considered the greatest of all time.
His record in the finals, doesn't indicate how lucky he is to have those 3 titles. He got fucking romped in the other 6 finals.
-Regular Season God, Postseason Chump Change
He also shouldn't have ran Kyrie off the Cavs
I'm happy this thread has turned into this
It doesn't matter to me either wayBut do you think the LG should be in the HoF?Regular season accolades mean nothing if he's consistently getting ran over by the best the West has to offer come finals time. All of his titles, outside of the 4-1 victory against the Thunder, are nothing short of miracles. For example, 2013 - Ray Allen should be getting Lebron's paycheck for saving his postseason legacy with the clutch shot in Game 6. 2016 - "3-1 lead Meme" Kyrie's prefromance and Steph choking as usual handed him another title.I'm a Jordan fan but the numbers that Lebron puts up are unreal, especially against the teams that he has to go up against and the numbers he was putting up this year in the playoffs. The point is that two era's with two good regiments should mean both end up in the hall of fame.Michael Jordan is def better than LeBron lmfaohow well did mj do before pippen??? Remember when lebron lost in the 1st round???
Jordan's Finals Record: 6-0
LeChoke's Finals Record: 3-6
Including losing 4-0 to Spurs in 2007, 4-0 to Warriors 2018, 4-1 to Spurs in 2014, 4-1 to Warriors in 2015 and 2017
.
He only won the 2013 finals because of Ray Allen's miraculous three point shot in the waning seconds of Game 6. Fact is most of the series he lost weren't even competitive. He will never been considered the greatest of all time.
His record in the finals, doesn't indicate how lucky he is to have those 3 titles. He got fucking romped in the other 6 finals.
-Regular Season God, Postseason Chump Change
He also shouldn't have ran Kyrie off the Cavs
David Blatt and Ty Lue are both not seen as good at all lmao. Especially Blatt. Dude got fired after making it to the finals and winning 2 games vs the Warriors lol.It doesn't matter to me either wayBut do you think the LG should be in the HoF?Regular season accolades mean nothing if he's consistently getting ran over by the best the West has to offer come finals time. All of his titles, outside of the 4-1 victory against the Thunder, are nothing short of miracles. For example, 2013 - Ray Allen should be getting Lebron's paycheck for saving his postseason legacy with the clutch shot in Game 6. 2016 - "3-1 lead Meme" Kyrie's prefromance and Steph choking as usual handed him another title.I'm a Jordan fan but the numbers that Lebron puts up are unreal, especially against the teams that he has to go up against and the numbers he was putting up this year in the playoffs. The point is that two era's with two good regiments should mean both end up in the hall of fame.Michael Jordan is def better than LeBron lmfaohow well did mj do before pippen??? Remember when lebron lost in the 1st round???
Jordan's Finals Record: 6-0
LeChoke's Finals Record: 3-6
Including losing 4-0 to Spurs in 2007, 4-0 to Warriors 2018, 4-1 to Spurs in 2014, 4-1 to Warriors in 2015 and 2017
.
He only won the 2013 finals because of Ray Allen's miraculous three point shot in the waning seconds of Game 6. Fact is most of the series he lost weren't even competitive. He will never been considered the greatest of all time.
His record in the finals, doesn't indicate how lucky he is to have those 3 titles. He got fucking romped in the other 6 finals.
-Regular Season God, Postseason Chump Change
He also shouldn't have ran Kyrie off the Cavs
Also LeBron makes any Cavs Coach look good.
Saying the LG wasn’t homegrown is wack. Half it’s members were either Waste’s buddies from years ago, and half were Russian loyalists from the 71st. It’s why this 71st brings 10 and the LG brought 20+ - because both leaders have homegrown followers.
homegrown meaning no past experience whatsoever ::)
Of course not, but the LG isn’t merely a carbon copy of other regiments. Asian’s in the hall of fame in part because he has people that only come back for him; much the same with the LG. Also, carbon copy stacks don’t last, but the LG did.Sadly the LG never started out as this "perfect" regiment like the reformed 3e where people from 5 regiments including the LG joined it.
One reason we were middling at the start was because we were a two-camp regiment, and needed time to gel. It’s funny: we’re accused of being a mere stack or just another mildly successful regiment, but every top player claims to hail originally from a HoF regiment, and the LG is no different - plenty of names were made because of the LG core.
1stRddt >all these shitty regiments.
1stRddt >all these shitty regiments.
you guys acting like leading is more than reverse columns, retreating, and hill camping is funny asfsays the guy who couldnt lead and let law do it lmao
leading is by far the easiest thing to do in nw, anyone could do it. at the end of the day it comes down to melee though. karth was a guy with above average melee talent so to compensate for that he retreated non stop to camp hills. that doesn't take any amount of skill LOL. sorry to break to you guys, but it isn't that deep
I don’t have any problems with MATT or anything, but if he starts putting stuff on the forums on the largest font and bolded can a moderator please mute him or at least delete his post so I don’t have to scroll for days just to get past his post?
I don’t have any problems with MATT or anything, but if he starts putting stuff on the forums on the largest font and bolded can a moderator please mute him or at least delete his post so I don’t have to scroll for days just to get past his post?
it hurts my eyes
Low Quality memes
Of course not, but the LG isn’t merely a carbon copy of other regiments. Asian’s in the hall of fame in part because he has people that only come back for him; much the same with the LG. Also, carbon copy stacks don’t last, but the LG did.
One reason we were middling at the start was because we were a two-camp regiment, and needed time to gel. It’s funny: we’re accused of being a mere stack or just another mildly successful regiment, but every top player claims to hail originally from a HoF regiment, and the LG is no different - plenty of names were made because of the LG core.
You raised the bar to an unreachable height. Grim sight said it himself. New regiments are meant to be added. With your criteria that will never happen
law was my sidekick in the back of the line he knew who the boy wonder wasyou guys acting like leading is more than reverse columns, retreating, and hill camping is funny asfsays the guy who couldnt lead and let law do it lmao
leading is by far the easiest thing to do in nw, anyone could do it. at the end of the day it comes down to melee though. karth was a guy with above average melee talent so to compensate for that he retreated non stop to camp hills. that doesn't take any amount of skill LOL. sorry to break to you guys, but it isn't that deep
Quite the opposite.I mean LG trained... a lot. We didn't do melee drills or some shit usually but there was a point where we were doing inter regs for an hour a night everyday of the week.
A large part of the reason HoF regiments were able to do what they did was that they actually had players to train. Nowadays, there aren't really that many players to train, and regiments won't even really try to train people nowadays.
Doesn't mean I should lower the bar for HoF though. I am gonna keep that bar as high as I possibly can so that the HoF actually matters.
You raised the bar to an unreachable height. Grim sight said it himself. New regiments are meant to be added. With your criteria that will never happen
30th? They could have probably gotten to HoF level if they added a few more powerhouse melee players. They played hard vs all the tier 1 regiments with no names. And actual no names, not the 5th/75th version of no names.
Also, IV Korps Hall of Fame. Apoc trained us!
Not really what I meant.Predurrdurr, Yoshie, Nevino, Kristine, DanMan, Kairo, Poptartinarmor, Sharing, Cwater, Domino, Free2u2, Dyre, James, Gandalf, MATT, Purplish, Jaax, Bunnies, Sandi, Crocodile, Hando, Boz, Bauer, Fern, Vlad, Shampoopy, Whalefish are all players that I don't think were super well known before and some still aren't very known but made a big difference and a lot of improvement in the LG.
Regiments only recruit and train players that have already been proven at this point.
This screenshot is BANNEDCanadians yawn(https://i.gyazo.com/274c50227d28ac320bc38d1d0e08f12f.jpg)[close]
Not really what I meant.Predurrdurr, Yoshie, Nevino, Kristine, DanMan, Kairo, Poptartinarmor, Sharing, Cwater, Domino, Free2u2, Dyre, James, Gandalf, MATT, Purplish, Jaax, Bunnies, Sandi, Crocodile, Hando, Boz, Bauer, Fern, Vlad, Shampoopy, Whalefish are all players that I don't think were super well known before and some still aren't very known but made a big difference and a lot of improvement in the LG.
Regiments only recruit and train players that have already been proven at this point.
Then you also got the guys from the Nr37 that improved a lot during that time, Headshotya, Swerp, Dickhardrock, Robert, Boob, Roggeh, Dom13, Elite77x, Skyz, Jay, NickCole
Just to name a few, some 71st dudes also
The LG isn’t what you think it was, nor is it like the 71st now. Even Russian made the jump from merely good to great in the LG.
Purple, Windflower, Cade, Marksman, Hofnaar, Fancypants, Aurum, Essex, Theodin, Lips, Siwi, Pickle, Kore, Elgost, Fwuffy, Dutch, Cowlikenuts, Naens, Wherner, Wencosa were all pretty gud
i trained like 6 people that dont play the game anymore can i be on the alltime list nowfrickin same. Trained so many cadets from different regs to be slightly better, and they all quit within months! The only two I can take somewhat credit for is when me and Cade spent a year improving together, and when I taught Anthony how to move better, but that's not even really teaching, is it
Purple, Windflower, Cade, Marksman, Hofnaar, Fancypants, Aurum, Essex, Theodin, Lips, Siwi, Pickle, Kore, Elgost, Fwuffy, Dutch, Cowlikenuts, Naens, Wherner, Wencosa were all pretty gud
(https://media.tenor.com/images/b3e9a8ad2e122df4ba3a2a2a01f7bb37/tenor.gif)
I think you think the LG is comparable to 58e/HMS skill wise, with a 71st playerbase, with 71st leadership and NCO core and a 93rd/Mang reg level melee stack. You speak in hypotheticals like a good lil list curator, but I don't think they're as hypothetical as is saidI recruited and trained 40+ people in the 1stEPGi trained like 6 people that dont play the game anymore can i be on the alltime list nowfrickin same. Trained so many cadets from different regs to be slightly better, and they all quit within months! The only two I can take somewhat credit for is when me and Cade spent a year improving together, and when I taught Anthony how to move better, but that's not even really teaching, is it
The LG isn’t what you think it was, nor is it like the 71st now. Even Russian made the jump from merely good to great in the LG.Say it to my face next time.This screenshot is BANNEDCanadians yawn(https://i.gyazo.com/274c50227d28ac320bc38d1d0e08f12f.jpg)[close]
I think you think the LG is comparable to 58e/HMS skill wise, with a 71st playerbase, with 71st leadership and NCO core and a 93rd/Mang reg level melee stack. You speak in hypotheticals like a good lil list curator, but I don't think they're as hypothetical as is said
frickin same. Trained so many cadets from different regs to be slightly better, and they all quit within months! The only two I can take somewhat credit for is when me and Cade spent a year improving together, and when I taught Anthony how to move better, but that's not even really teaching, is it
Not really what I meant.Predurrdurr, Yoshie, Nevino, Kristine, DanMan, Kairo, Poptartinarmor, Sharing, Cwater, Domino, Free2u2, Dyre, James, Gandalf, MATT, Purplish, Jaax, Bunnies, Sandi, Crocodile, Hando, Boz, Bauer, Fern, Vlad, Shampoopy, Whalefish are all players that I don't think were super well known before and some still aren't very known but made a big difference and a lot of improvement in the LG.
Regiments only recruit and train players that have already been proven at this point.
Then you also got the guys from the Nr37 that improved a lot during that time, Headshotya, Swerp, Dickhardrock, Robert, Boob, Roggeh, Dom13, Elite77x, Skyz, Jay, NickCole
Just to name a few, some 71st dudes also, and a lot of 45e guys got better during the LG like Hawkince, GOATmeal, Charles, and some other dudes
You try to turn each argument into 4th dimensional chess where a single word is a dog whistle for some other thing.if you stare at it long enough everything is 4d chess
Try to think in more simple terms Theo lol.
i learned how to downspam from theo!didn't everyone?
I think you think the LG is comparable to 58e/HMS skill wise, with a 71st playerbase, with 71st leadership and NCO core and a 93rd/Mang reg level melee stack. You speak in hypotheticals like a good lil list curator, but I don't think they're as hypothetical as is saidits ok theo rms16bot still plays and i helped that young man!!!!!!i trained like 6 people that dont play the game anymore can i be on the alltime list nowfrickin same. Trained so many cadets from different regs to be slightly better, and they all quit within months! The only two I can take somewhat credit for is when me and Cade spent a year improving together, and when I taught Anthony how to move better, but that's not even really teaching, is it
I should have left the USMC sooner than I didIt's ok
What do you mean. It's literally just me giving examples of people we recruited and worked on training xDNot really what I meant.Predurrdurr, Yoshie, Nevino, Kristine, DanMan, Kairo, Poptartinarmor, Sharing, Cwater, Domino, Free2u2, Dyre, James, Gandalf, MATT, Purplish, Jaax, Bunnies, Sandi, Crocodile, Hando, Boz, Bauer, Fern, Vlad, Shampoopy, Whalefish are all players that I don't think were super well known before and some still aren't very known but made a big difference and a lot of improvement in the LG.
Regiments only recruit and train players that have already been proven at this point.
Then you also got the guys from the Nr37 that improved a lot during that time, Headshotya, Swerp, Dickhardrock, Robert, Boob, Roggeh, Dom13, Elite77x, Skyz, Jay, NickCole
Just to name a few, some 71st dudes also, and a lot of 45e guys got better during the LG like Hawkince, GOATmeal, Charles, and some other dudes
I don't know how to respond to this and am just assuming it's a massive troll post
I think you think the LG is comparable to 58e/HMS skill wise, with a 71st playerbase, with 71st leadership and NCO core and a 93rd/Mang reg level melee stack. You speak in hypotheticals like a good lil list curator, but I don't think they're as hypothetical as is said
Gotta say thats quite presumptuous. I was just trying to make examples you can relate to, as making examples you couldn't relate to/wouldn't be able to relate to as well would just be bad examples.
But then again, as I said before, your signature move is arguing against points that weren't even made so I can't say I am too surprised you are trying to make an argument out of this.frickin same. Trained so many cadets from different regs to be slightly better, and they all quit within months! The only two I can take somewhat credit for is when me and Cade spent a year improving together, and when I taught Anthony how to move better, but that's not even really teaching, is it
Rogelio, Vortex, Kirbies, Superbad.
Helped teach Grimsight.
Get rekt, noobs.
how do you not know of Holding and Sharing? He was known before LGNot really what I meant.Predurrdurr, Yoshie, Nevino, Kristine, DanMan, Kairo, Poptartinarmor, Sharing, Cwater, Domino, Free2u2, Dyre, James, Gandalf, MATT, Purplish, Jaax, Bunnies, Sandi, Crocodile, Hando, Boz, Bauer, Fern, Vlad, Shampoopy, Whalefish are all players that I don't think were super well known before and some still aren't very known but made a big difference and a lot of improvement in the LG.
Regiments only recruit and train players that have already been proven at this point.
Then you also got the guys from the Nr37 that improved a lot during that time, Headshotya, Swerp, Dickhardrock, Robert, Boob, Roggeh, Dom13, Elite77x, Skyz, Jay, NickCole
Just to name a few, some 71st dudes also, and a lot of 45e guys got better during the LG like Hawkince, GOATmeal, Charles, and some other dudes
Wastee poached me from the PSG to the Nr37 for my melee skill smh.Not really what I meant.Predurrdurr, Yoshie, Nevino, Kristine, DanMan, Kairo, Poptartinarmor, Sharing, Cwater, Domino, Free2u2, Dyre, James, Gandalf, MATT, Purplish, Jaax, Bunnies, Sandi, Crocodile, Hando, Boz, Bauer, Fern, Vlad, Shampoopy, Whalefish are all players that I don't think were super well known before and some still aren't very known but made a big difference and a lot of improvement in the LG.
Regiments only recruit and train players that have already been proven at this point.
Then you also got the guys from the Nr37 that improved a lot during that time, Headshotya, Swerp, Dickhardrock, Robert, Boob, Roggeh, Dom13, Elite77x, Skyz, Jay, NickCole
Just to name a few, some 71st dudes also, and a lot of 45e guys got better during the LG like Hawkince, GOATmeal, Charles, and some other dudes
What do you mean. It's literally just me giving examples of people we recruited and worked on training xDNot really what I meant.Predurrdurr, Yoshie, Nevino, Kristine, DanMan, Kairo, Poptartinarmor, Sharing, Cwater, Domino, Free2u2, Dyre, James, Gandalf, MATT, Purplish, Jaax, Bunnies, Sandi, Crocodile, Hando, Boz, Bauer, Fern, Vlad, Shampoopy, Whalefish are all players that I don't think were super well known before and some still aren't very known but made a big difference and a lot of improvement in the LG.
Regiments only recruit and train players that have already been proven at this point.
Then you also got the guys from the Nr37 that improved a lot during that time, Headshotya, Swerp, Dickhardrock, Robert, Boob, Roggeh, Dom13, Elite77x, Skyz, Jay, NickCole
Just to name a few, some 71st dudes also, and a lot of 45e guys got better during the LG like Hawkince, GOATmeal, Charles, and some other dudes
I don't know how to respond to this and am just assuming it's a massive troll postSpoilerI think you think the LG is comparable to 58e/HMS skill wise, with a 71st playerbase, with 71st leadership and NCO core and a 93rd/Mang reg level melee stack. You speak in hypotheticals like a good lil list curator, but I don't think they're as hypothetical as is said
Gotta say thats quite presumptuous. I was just trying to make examples you can relate to, as making examples you couldn't relate to/wouldn't be able to relate to as well would just be bad examples.
But then again, as I said before, your signature move is arguing against points that weren't even made so I can't say I am too surprised you are trying to make an argument out of this.frickin same. Trained so many cadets from different regs to be slightly better, and they all quit within months! The only two I can take somewhat credit for is when me and Cade spent a year improving together, and when I taught Anthony how to move better, but that's not even really teaching, is it
Rogelio, Vortex, Kirbies, Superbad.
Helped teach Grimsight.
Get rekt, noobs.
All trash players except Rogelio Soldied Boy
Rekt nerd
(Okay vortex was alright)[close]
Spoilers inside of spoilers, is this what this thread has come to?
I'm not saying we recruited them when they had 3 hours on the game. I'm saying they're players I've seen a lot of improvement in during their time in LG and Nr37SpoilerWhat do you mean. It's literally just me giving examples of people we recruited and worked on training xDNot really what I meant.Predurrdurr, Yoshie, Nevino, Kristine, DanMan, Kairo, Poptartinarmor, Sharing, Cwater, Domino, Free2u2, Dyre, James, Gandalf, MATT, Purplish, Jaax, Bunnies, Sandi, Crocodile, Hando, Boz, Bauer, Fern, Vlad, Shampoopy, Whalefish are all players that I don't think were super well known before and some still aren't very known but made a big difference and a lot of improvement in the LG.
Regiments only recruit and train players that have already been proven at this point.
Then you also got the guys from the Nr37 that improved a lot during that time, Headshotya, Swerp, Dickhardrock, Robert, Boob, Roggeh, Dom13, Elite77x, Skyz, Jay, NickCole
Just to name a few, some 71st dudes also, and a lot of 45e guys got better during the LG like Hawkince, GOATmeal, Charles, and some other dudes
I don't know how to respond to this and am just assuming it's a massive troll postSpoilerI think you think the LG is comparable to 58e/HMS skill wise, with a 71st playerbase, with 71st leadership and NCO core and a 93rd/Mang reg level melee stack. You speak in hypotheticals like a good lil list curator, but I don't think they're as hypothetical as is said
Gotta say thats quite presumptuous. I was just trying to make examples you can relate to, as making examples you couldn't relate to/wouldn't be able to relate to as well would just be bad examples.
But then again, as I said before, your signature move is arguing against points that weren't even made so I can't say I am too surprised you are trying to make an argument out of this.frickin same. Trained so many cadets from different regs to be slightly better, and they all quit within months! The only two I can take somewhat credit for is when me and Cade spent a year improving together, and when I taught Anthony how to move better, but that's not even really teaching, is it
Rogelio, Vortex, Kirbies, Superbad.
Helped teach Grimsight.
Get rekt, noobs.
All trash players except Rogelio Soldied Boy
Rekt nerd
(Okay vortex was alright)[close][close]
You literally named a bunch of players known from regiments before the LG 3 of which I trained personally lol
I'm not saying we recruited them when they had 3 hours on the game. I'm saying they're players I've seen a lot of improvement in during their time in LG and Nr37SpoilerWhat do you mean. It's literally just me giving examples of people we recruited and worked on training xDNot really what I meant.Predurrdurr, Yoshie, Nevino, Kristine, DanMan, Kairo, Poptartinarmor, Sharing, Cwater, Domino, Free2u2, Dyre, James, Gandalf, MATT, Purplish, Jaax, Bunnies, Sandi, Crocodile, Hando, Boz, Bauer, Fern, Vlad, Shampoopy, Whalefish are all players that I don't think were super well known before and some still aren't very known but made a big difference and a lot of improvement in the LG.
Regiments only recruit and train players that have already been proven at this point.
Then you also got the guys from the Nr37 that improved a lot during that time, Headshotya, Swerp, Dickhardrock, Robert, Boob, Roggeh, Dom13, Elite77x, Skyz, Jay, NickCole
Just to name a few, some 71st dudes also, and a lot of 45e guys got better during the LG like Hawkince, GOATmeal, Charles, and some other dudes
I don't know how to respond to this and am just assuming it's a massive troll postSpoilerI think you think the LG is comparable to 58e/HMS skill wise, with a 71st playerbase, with 71st leadership and NCO core and a 93rd/Mang reg level melee stack. You speak in hypotheticals like a good lil list curator, but I don't think they're as hypothetical as is said
Gotta say thats quite presumptuous. I was just trying to make examples you can relate to, as making examples you couldn't relate to/wouldn't be able to relate to as well would just be bad examples.
But then again, as I said before, your signature move is arguing against points that weren't even made so I can't say I am too surprised you are trying to make an argument out of this.frickin same. Trained so many cadets from different regs to be slightly better, and they all quit within months! The only two I can take somewhat credit for is when me and Cade spent a year improving together, and when I taught Anthony how to move better, but that's not even really teaching, is it
Rogelio, Vortex, Kirbies, Superbad.
Helped teach Grimsight.
Get rekt, noobs.
All trash players except Rogelio Soldied Boy
Rekt nerd
(Okay vortex was alright)[close][close]
You literally named a bunch of players known from regiments before the LG 3 of which I trained personally lol
sharing was straight better than you waste for like a really long time he played team Canada nwwc buddy is a legendI did not know this :oo
sharing was straight better than you waste for like a really long time he played team Canada nwwc buddy is a legend
Pred, MATT, Kairo, Whalefish, Purplish, Jaax???sharing was straight better than you waste for like a really long time he played team Canada nwwc buddy is a legend
A pretty large majority of that list I remember seeing around and were already good going in lol, and the only person I remember seeing any improvement from by the time LG finished was Yoshie lol, which is why I don't know how to respond to it.
yea cool waste fuck me rightOatmeals achievements are too good to be on a list with those other plebians
Pred, MATT, Kairo, Whalefish, Purplish, Jaax???sharing was straight better than you waste for like a really long time he played team Canada nwwc buddy is a legend
A pretty large majority of that list I remember seeing around and were already good going in lol, and the only person I remember seeing any improvement from by the time LG finished was Yoshie lol, which is why I don't know how to respond to it.
They're the ones I think made the most improvements.
I am kinda curious who the large majority you heard of before are also
Pred, MATT, Kairo, Whalefish, Purplish, Jaax???sharing was straight better than you waste for like a really long time he played team Canada nwwc buddy is a legend
A pretty large majority of that list I remember seeing around and were already good going in lol, and the only person I remember seeing any improvement from by the time LG finished was Yoshie lol, which is why I don't know how to respond to it.
They're the ones I think made the most improvements.
I am kinda curious who the large majority you heard of before are also
You can't really attribute MATT to training in the LG, as he said earlier in the thread, most of the 'training' he got was from me regarding dueling.
Pred, Kairo, Whalefish, Jaax weren't that good before, during or after LG, Jaax has only recently started becoming good.
Headshotya, Swerp, Dickhardrock, Robert, Boob, Dom13, Elite77x, NickCole - all of these guys were good before, during and after LG, never saw a change in skill from any of them following their time in LG
Sharing, Cwater , Dyre, Bunnies, Sandi, Crocodile, Bauer, Shampoopy - all of these guys were good before, during and after LG and I didn't notice a skill change in any of them following their time in LG, I personally trained Bauer and Shampoopy, and didn't notice a skill change in either of them following their time in LG
Everyone I didn't mention I remember their skill to vaguely to comment on or just have no idea who they are/were.
RegLatino for the hall of fame or ur list is invalid
checkmate idiots
Yall dont know who really unleashed my true power, and that was yolo, +1 to my mane yolo for creating the true GOAT
all he did was tell me to change my fps to 200
how you gonna lose to fireboy? His weakness is literally duelingYall dont know who really unleashed my true power, and that was yolo, +1 to my mane yolo for creating the true GOAT
all he did was tell me to change my fps to 200
Aren’t you the noob I 7-3d last night? Yawn
I say we take off anyone on the current melee list who was in the 12th, because the time spoken of in the ancient prophesy of 'all 12th will be dead by 9y' draws near.
(https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/large-thanksgiving-dinner-turkey-family-prayer-celebrates-35562368.jpg)
thank you bant gods for this month of bounty.
Just wanna take a moment to appreciate that this thread has reached over 100 pages in a month. That's like 3 pages a day.(https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/large-thanksgiving-dinner-turkey-family-prayer-celebrates-35562368.jpg)
thank you bant gods for this month of bounty.
You're really not picking up what I'm putting down.Pred, MATT, Kairo, Whalefish, Purplish, Jaax???sharing was straight better than you waste for like a really long time he played team Canada nwwc buddy is a legend
A pretty large majority of that list I remember seeing around and were already good going in lol, and the only person I remember seeing any improvement from by the time LG finished was Yoshie lol, which is why I don't know how to respond to it.
They're the ones I think made the most improvements.
I am kinda curious who the large majority you heard of before are also
You can't really attribute MATT to training in the LG, as he said earlier in the thread, most of the 'training' he got was from me regarding dueling.
Pred, Kairo, Whalefish, Jaax weren't that good before, during or after LG, Jaax has only recently started becoming good.
Headshotya, Swerp, Dickhardrock, Boob, Dom13, Elite77x, NickCole - all of these guys were good before, during and after LG, never saw a change in skill from any of them following their time in LG
Sharing, Cwater , Dyre, Bunnies, Sandi, Crocodile, Bauer, Shampoopy - all of these guys were good before, during and after LG and I didn't notice a skill change in any of them following their time in LG, I personally trained Bauer and Shampoopy, and didn't notice a skill change in either of them following their time in LG
Everyone I didn't mention I remember their skill to vaguely to comment on or just have no idea who they are/were
The LG made a lot of players a whole lot better. Idk how you can even argue against that.
The LG made a lot of players a whole lot better. Idk how you can even argue against that.I hit my peak in the LG. If that isn't enough evidence idk what is
You're really not picking up what I'm putting down.Pred, MATT, Kairo, Whalefish, Purplish, Jaax???sharing was straight better than you waste for like a really long time he played team Canada nwwc buddy is a legend
A pretty large majority of that list I remember seeing around and were already good going in lol, and the only person I remember seeing any improvement from by the time LG finished was Yoshie lol, which is why I don't know how to respond to it.
They're the ones I think made the most improvements.
I am kinda curious who the large majority you heard of before are also
You can't really attribute MATT to training in the LG, as he said earlier in the thread, most of the 'training' he got was from me regarding dueling.
Pred, Kairo, Whalefish, Jaax weren't that good before, during or after LG, Jaax has only recently started becoming good.
Headshotya, Swerp, Dickhardrock, Boob, Dom13, Elite77x, NickCole - all of these guys were good before, during and after LG, never saw a change in skill from any of them following their time in LG
Sharing, Cwater , Dyre, Bunnies, Sandi, Crocodile, Bauer, Shampoopy - all of these guys were good before, during and after LG and I didn't notice a skill change in any of them following their time in LG, I personally trained Bauer and Shampoopy, and didn't notice a skill change in either of them following their time in LG
Everyone I didn't mention I remember their skill to vaguely to comment on or just have no idea who they are/were
I'll say it again, I'm not saying any of these guys became very good in the LG, I'm saying they made improvements. That's all I'm saying, that's all I was ever saying.
And yeah the Nr37 guys didn't improve much in the LG they improved in the Nr37 and have been with me more or less ever sense.
You're trying to argue with something that wasn't an argument in the first place, I already made my comments on LG not getting in the HoF due to it's requirements.
This was just a statement, we had players that improved during their time with us, that's what I, the person who played with them on their first day in the LG to their last day, noticed. That's it.
Never forget Whalefish smacking Sleek in some Duel Tournament and taking names in our last 1v1 with 91st, all hail
The LG made a lot of players a whole lot better. Idk how you can even argue against that.
I am the embodiment of the LG creating monsters
you not noticing things =/ things not being the case^
I am the embodiment of the LG creating monsters?
Your tournament record is weakI am the embodiment of the LG creating monsters?
you're bad
I am the embodiment of the LG creating monsters?
you're bad
you not noticing things =/ things not being the case
That's a quality shitpost you've got there Marcx. That leader list is pretty fucking deplorable, for starters you most definitely shouldn't be on it. There's alot of fat to be trimmed here but others that ought to be cut include, MackCW, Breaches, AsianP, Lawbringer, Karth, Praetorian, FancyPants, Tico, Alexander, Godfreid, CheeseyPants, Grimsight, Stox, Waste, KnightOfStJohn, and finally Millander. That leaves us with our benevolent leader Ody. I've never seen a human so passionate about NW. I can't recall any of you mongloids ever whipping out your schmeckle for all of NW to revel in. Until you've made such sacrifice and displayed an unprecedentedly low level of fucks given could you ever consider yourself a top rated leader.
As for the melee list, there's some real shitters on there. For starters drop Tammo, Jackie, Zzehth, Apoc, and Emo. All absolutely terrible and their theory of melee should be shown to future generations as a reminder that us millennials were the last generation before the cure for cancer was developed. The people that have truly contributed most to NW are the ones that have dominated turny's and have a long resume of wins such as Suns, Nickcole, Maccle, RitZ, and Krastinov. The rest of the plebs on that list couldn't claim any actual reason they deserve to be on that list because they have none. Talentless wankery has plagued the community and we need people with varied and interesting fighting styles such as Bill, Rafael, Marksman, Dante, and their likes. They truly are responsible for melee in NW having recently become so interesting and fast paced and creative.
Just my two cents
Completely unrelated but I was memeing around searching the forums for bant I missed this past year and I came across a classic Puppytron shitpost and felt I should share itThat's a quality shitpost you've got there Marcx. That leader list is pretty fucking deplorable, for starters you most definitely shouldn't be on it. There's alot of fat to be trimmed here but others that ought to be cut include, MackCW, Breaches, AsianP, Lawbringer, Karth, Praetorian, FancyPants, Tico, Alexander, Godfreid, CheeseyPants, Grimsight, Stox, Waste, KnightOfStJohn, and finally Millander. That leaves us with our benevolent leader Ody. I've never seen a human so passionate about NW. I can't recall any of you mongloids ever whipping out your schmeckle for all of NW to revel in. Until you've made such sacrifice and displayed an unprecedentedly low level of fucks given could you ever consider yourself a top rated leader.
As for the melee list, there's some real shitters on there. For starters drop Tammo, Jackie, Zzehth, Apoc, and Emo. All absolutely terrible and their theory of melee should be shown to future generations as a reminder that us millennials were the last generation before the cure for cancer was developed. The people that have truly contributed most to NW are the ones that have dominated turny's and have a long resume of wins such as Suns, Nickcole, Maccle, RitZ, and Krastinov. The rest of the plebs on that list couldn't claim any actual reason they deserve to be on that list because they have none. Talentless wankery has plagued the community and we need people with varied and interesting fighting styles such as Bill, Rafael, Marksman, Dante, and their likes. They truly are responsible for melee in NW having recently become so interesting and fast paced and creative.
Just my two cents
That’s great but it doesn’t make your opinion more worth anything than Waste’s, if that’s what you’re inciniatingyou not noticing things =/ things not being the case
Not just speaking from casual observation though, speaking for experience playing with and against the players I mentioned.
Not like I spec'd a couple matches featuring them and went "nah, these guys haven't changed"
So any improvement they made either wasn't significant enough for it to be relevant when playing against/with them, or just didn't happen.
I bet none of you have had an orgy with Puppytron
Pupptron&Kittytron undefeated 2v2 champions.
That’s great but it doesn’t make your opinion more worth anything than Waste’s, if that’s what you’re inciniatingyou not noticing things =/ things not being the case
Not just speaking from casual observation though, speaking for experience playing with and against the players I mentioned.
Not like I spec'd a couple matches featuring them and went "nah, these guys haven't changed"
So any improvement they made either wasn't significant enough for it to be relevant when playing against/with them, or just didn't happen.
okThat’s great but it doesn’t make your opinion more worth anything than Waste’s, if that’s what you’re inciniatingyou not noticing things =/ things not being the case
Not just speaking from casual observation though, speaking for experience playing with and against the players I mentioned.
Not like I spec'd a couple matches featuring them and went "nah, these guys haven't changed"
So any improvement they made either wasn't significant enough for it to be relevant when playing against/with them, or just didn't happen.
I'm not going to bother with this because it's actually incredibly stupid, annoying and insulting.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz8U3KnxPMHXSkt1LWxxUkdpdFk/view
Anyone remember this? It's kinda cringe in hindsight but it's that good, Windows movie maker cringe. Need more of that these days tbh.
Theodin reigns supreme
HeyCan I join
Theodin did that to me too
We should start a support group for this or something.
"Misrepresented anonymous"
And that is why Theodin is the undefeated forum warrior! Even when you're right, you're wrongTheodin reigns supreme
More like got what I was saying so wrong that it actually tilted me.
But potato potahto.
Can't stump the Theodin!And that is why Theodin is the undefeated forum warrior! Even when you're right, you're wrongTheodin reigns supreme
More like got what I was saying so wrong that it actually tilted me.
But potato potahto.
He's also a dumb poopy head at civ 5!Can't stump the Theodin!And that is why Theodin is the undefeated forum warrior! Even when you're right, you're wrongTheodin reigns supreme
More like got what I was saying so wrong that it actually tilted me.
But potato potahto.
wow!He's also a dumb poopy head at civ 5!Can't stump the Theodin!And that is why Theodin is the undefeated forum warrior! Even when you're right, you're wrongTheodin reigns supreme
More like got what I was saying so wrong that it actually tilted me.
But potato potahto.
Shouldn't Tammo be #1 all time on NA? He could play bayonet and sword and knew how to play cavalry on NW. Same can be said for RitZ.
This list is focused on Infantry I think, and as far as I'm concerned no one can stand up to JackieShouldn't Tammo be #1 all time on NA? He could play bayonet and sword and knew how to play cavalry on NW. Same can be said for RitZ.
This list is focused on Infantry I think, and as far as I'm concerned no one can stand up to JackieShouldn't Tammo be #1 all time on NA? He could play bayonet and sword and knew how to play cavalry on NW. Same can be said for RitZ.
I was best cannon.
Source: Me
I was best cannon.
Source: Me
No, I was
Source: Mack
This list is focused on Infantry I think, and as far as I'm concerned no one can stand up to JackieShouldn't Tammo be #1 all time on NA? He could play bayonet and sword and knew how to play cavalry on NW. Same can be said for RitZ.
I think Jackie was probably the best player, but even he wasn't undefeated.
Also, non-infantry lists are weird imo, because I think its alot harder to rate anything outside of infantry.
It's pretty easy to play cav if you played native a lot. There are some insane cav players tho.This list is focused on Infantry I think, and as far as I'm concerned no one can stand up to JackieShouldn't Tammo be #1 all time on NA? He could play bayonet and sword and knew how to play cavalry on NW. Same can be said for RitZ.
I think Jackie was probably the best player, but even he wasn't undefeated.
Also, non-infantry lists are weird imo, because I think its alot harder to rate anything outside of infantry.
That's because cavalry takes more skill.
Cav is a different skill set than inf but I think inf takes more skill overall. Which is why I play cav lolThis list is focused on Infantry I think, and as far as I'm concerned no one can stand up to JackieShouldn't Tammo be #1 all time on NA? He could play bayonet and sword and knew how to play cavalry on NW. Same can be said for RitZ.
I think Jackie was probably the best player, but even he wasn't undefeated.
Also, non-infantry lists are weird imo, because I think its alot harder to rate anything outside of infantry.
That's because cavalry takes more skill.
F
F
F
I don't give a shit, guy was probably a douchebag that's why he got shot in the firstplaceHe was a douche but he didn't need to get killed for it bruh
I don't give a shit, guy was probably a douchebag that's why he got shot in the firstplace
didnt he beat and torture his pregnant girlfriend
didnt he beat and torture his pregnant girlfriend
rest in piss
Debating adding Skribbl.io list to the all time list
Taking over the EU's skribbl.io thread is cool and all
But I say we go the extra step.
Debating adding Skribbl.io list to the all time list
Taking over the EU's skribbl.io thread is cool and all
But I say we go the extra step.
I like your new avatar
Can Godfried's avatar become a meme in NA like PrideofNi's avatar is for EU???
Typical black
Can Godfried's avatar become a meme in NA like PrideofNi's avatar is for EU
Ok now that the 98e is the undisputed best regiment in NW
I say we add them to the HoF
Ok now that the 98e is the undisputed best regiment in NW
I say we add them to the HoF
kek
Ok now that the 98e is the undisputed best regiment in NWCome at me
I say we add them to the HoF
(https://i.gyazo.com/a1314035fd0fcd54ad046044ff9b4188.jpg)mang had 10 ping that day that's why he wasn't top fragging
July 16, 2014 pretty sure this was my first time being at the top of NAGF, so i ss it
makes me sad :(
Yeh he usually had 9(https://i.gyazo.com/a1314035fd0fcd54ad046044ff9b4188.jpg)mang had 10 ping that day that's why he wasn't top fragging
July 16, 2014 pretty sure this was my first time being at the top of NAGF, so i ss it
makes me sad :(
(https://i.gyazo.com/a1314035fd0fcd54ad046044ff9b4188.jpg)
July 16, 2014 pretty sure this was my first time being at the top of NAGF, so i ss it
makes me sad :(
(https://i.gyazo.com/a1314035fd0fcd54ad046044ff9b4188.jpg)
July 16, 2014 pretty sure this was my first time being at the top of NAGF, so i ss it
makes me sad :(
I hate seeing old screenshots
finally this list gimmick is deadkrast don't make me bring up what i did to you and lawbringer it will ruin u
I placed a death curse on this thread after my name was banished by Maple, the Syrup Usurper
why is tammo higher than me
"omg its maple" - Suns 2014why is tammo higher than me
cz u got 7-1'd by pedro who has 100+ ping
??? I didn't know you in 2014 i only hung around the 1er Chasseurs/84e guys all i remember from you in 2014 is you were the prime discount cade you tried chambering everything but you'd die consistently in failuresigh, an 84 rated player trying to talk big game :/
uh i never tried copying your playstyle if that's true how come someone who "copied your playstyle" 7-2'd you the past 3 timesthe sin of envy. I understand you though, after how many times i beat you in the past, its only natural for you to want revenge when i'm at my weakest.
i guess if that's true a "student" of yours is better at your own style LOLLLLL
rafael taught me melee basic holds with a few chambers all you do is chamber spam if i take that away by holding you can't do anything you literally are the cade who can feint while chambering LOLOL
In EU servers - with medium speedmad you're 5th
And not even counting all the matches lul
>:(In EU servers - with medium speedmad you're 5th
And not even counting all the matches lul
number 1 canadian as expected
(https://i.gyazo.com/8dba130f3f7ec25ebc95103961a6ec0b.png)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV59bqpCeAg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV59bqpCeAg
Updated
Hey, so serious question. I would like to know the general community viewing of the 4th and myself as it's leader. Not looking to start a banter fest in any way, I am just curious. I may reply but don't take it in any way that is like "mad" and such I just am open to having civil discussion about the regiment from my perspective as well as yours and how they relate. I'd prefer long replies similar to that one that was written for Irish about the 6te because it was informative. Yknow, the one that Risk uses as his sig.
Thanks guys.SpoilerJust want to re-iterate that I am not looking to cause conflict, just an exchange of opinions and perspectives. The title of being a "good leader" or running a "good regiment" doesn't mean very much to me since I left the scene a little over a year ago. I do believe in my own opinion that I was a decent leader, likely better organizationally then I was on the battlefield but i was alright there too. I felt the 4th was really good at times and not so good at others. Very much lacked consistency.[close]
Coming from the guy who begged to be recognized as a top leader? LmaoHey, so serious question. I would like to know the general community viewing of the 4th and myself as it's leader. Not looking to start a banter fest in any way, I am just curious. I may reply but don't take it in any way that is like "mad" and such I just am open to having civil discussion about the regiment from my perspective as well as yours and how they relate. I'd prefer long replies similar to that one that was written for Irish about the 6te because it was informative. Yknow, the one that Risk uses as his sig.
Thanks guys.SpoilerJust want to re-iterate that I am not looking to cause conflict, just an exchange of opinions and perspectives. The title of being a "good leader" or running a "good regiment" doesn't mean very much to me since I left the scene a little over a year ago. I do believe in my own opinion that I was a decent leader, likely better organizationally then I was on the battlefield but i was alright there too. I felt the 4th was really good at times and not so good at others. Very much lacked consistency.[close]
Be careful Nico, your human need for importance and trying to justify the fact that we all spend thousands of hours on this game and crave the recognition of others is showing.
Incoming disband
Coming from the guy who begged to be recognized as a top leader? LmaoHey, so serious question. I would like to know the general community viewing of the 4th and myself as it's leader. Not looking to start a banter fest in any way, I am just curious. I may reply but don't take it in any way that is like "mad" and such I just am open to having civil discussion about the regiment from my perspective as well as yours and how they relate. I'd prefer long replies similar to that one that was written for Irish about the 6te because it was informative. Yknow, the one that Risk uses as his sig.
Thanks guys.SpoilerJust want to re-iterate that I am not looking to cause conflict, just an exchange of opinions and perspectives. The title of being a "good leader" or running a "good regiment" doesn't mean very much to me since I left the scene a little over a year ago. I do believe in my own opinion that I was a decent leader, likely better organizationally then I was on the battlefield but i was alright there too. I felt the 4th was really good at times and not so good at others. Very much lacked consistency.[close]
Be careful Nico, your human need for importance and trying to justify the fact that we all spend thousands of hours on this game and crave the recognition of others is showing.
Hey, so serious question. I would like to know the general community viewing of the 4th and myself as it's leader. Not looking to start a banter fest in any way, I am just curious. I may reply but don't take it in any way that is like "mad" and such I just am open to having civil discussion about the regiment from my perspective as well as yours and how they relate. I'd prefer long replies similar to that one that was written for Irish about the 6te because it was informative. Yknow, the one that Risk uses as his sig.the 4th was dust in the wind
Thanks guys.SpoilerJust want to re-iterate that I am not looking to cause conflict, just an exchange of opinions and perspectives. The title of being a "good leader" or running a "good regiment" doesn't mean very much to me since I left the scene a little over a year ago. I do believe in my own opinion that I was a decent leader, likely better organizationally then I was on the battlefield but i was alright there too. I felt the 4th was really good at times and not so good at others. Very much lacked consistency.[close]
I CLOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEDDDDDDD MMMMMMMYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY EEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSHey, so serious question. I would like to know the general community viewing of the 4th and myself as it's leader. Not looking to start a banter fest in any way, I am just curious. I may reply but don't take it in any way that is like "mad" and such I just am open to having civil discussion about the regiment from my perspective as well as yours and how they relate. I'd prefer long replies similar to that one that was written for Irish about the 6te because it was informative. Yknow, the one that Risk uses as his sig.the 4th was dust in the wind
Thanks guys.SpoilerJust want to re-iterate that I am not looking to cause conflict, just an exchange of opinions and perspectives. The title of being a "good leader" or running a "good regiment" doesn't mean very much to me since I left the scene a little over a year ago. I do believe in my own opinion that I was a decent leader, likely better organizationally then I was on the battlefield but i was alright there too. I felt the 4th was really good at times and not so good at others. Very much lacked consistency.[close]
Hey, so serious question. I would like to know the general community viewing of the 4th and myself as it's leader. Not looking to start a banter fest in any way, I am just curious. I may reply but don't take it in any way that is like "mad" and such I just am open to having civil discussion about the regiment from my perspective as well as yours and how they relate. I'd prefer long replies similar to that one that was written for Irish about the 6te because it was informative. Yknow, the one that Risk uses as his sig.the 4th was dust in the wind
Thanks guys.SpoilerJust want to re-iterate that I am not looking to cause conflict, just an exchange of opinions and perspectives. The title of being a "good leader" or running a "good regiment" doesn't mean very much to me since I left the scene a little over a year ago. I do believe in my own opinion that I was a decent leader, likely better organizationally then I was on the battlefield but i was alright there too. I felt the 4th was really good at times and not so good at others. Very much lacked consistency.[close]
only for a momentI CLOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEDDDDDDD MMMMMMMYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY EEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSHey, so serious question. I would like to know the general community viewing of the 4th and myself as it's leader. Not looking to start a banter fest in any way, I am just curious. I may reply but don't take it in any way that is like "mad" and such I just am open to having civil discussion about the regiment from my perspective as well as yours and how they relate. I'd prefer long replies similar to that one that was written for Irish about the 6te because it was informative. Yknow, the one that Risk uses as his sig.the 4th was dust in the wind
Thanks guys.SpoilerJust want to re-iterate that I am not looking to cause conflict, just an exchange of opinions and perspectives. The title of being a "good leader" or running a "good regiment" doesn't mean very much to me since I left the scene a little over a year ago. I do believe in my own opinion that I was a decent leader, likely better organizationally then I was on the battlefield but i was alright there too. I felt the 4th was really good at times and not so good at others. Very much lacked consistency.[close]
regiments aren't made unless they have won a NAPLI. Am. The. Only. NAPL. Double. Champ.
Hey, so serious question. I would like to know the general community viewing of the 4th and myself as it's leader. Not looking to start a banter fest in any way, I am just curious. I may reply but don't take it in any way that is like "mad" and such I just am open to having civil discussion about the regiment from my perspective as well as yours and how they relate. I'd prefer long replies similar to that one that was written for Irish about the 6te because it was informative. Yknow, the one that Risk uses as his sig.
Thanks guys.SpoilerJust want to re-iterate that I am not looking to cause conflict, just an exchange of opinions and perspectives. The title of being a "good leader" or running a "good regiment" doesn't mean very much to me since I left the scene a little over a year ago. I do believe in my own opinion that I was a decent leader, likely better organizationally then I was on the battlefield but i was alright there too. I felt the 4th was really good at times and not so good at others. Very much lacked consistency.[close]
Be careful Nico, your human need for importance and trying to justify the fact that we all spend thousands of hours on this game and crave the recognition of others is showing.
The 4th wasn’t really anything special. Just your average competitive regiment that appeared through out the years. *throws up*
SpoilerHey, so serious question. I would like to know the general community viewing of the 4th and myself as it's leader. Not looking to start a banter fest in any way, I am just curious. I may reply but don't take it in any way that is like "mad" and such I just am open to having civil discussion about the regiment from my perspective as well as yours and how they relate. I'd prefer long replies similar to that one that was written for Irish about the 6te because it was informative. Yknow, the one that Risk uses as his sig.the 4th was dust in the wind
Thanks guys.SpoilerJust want to re-iterate that I am not looking to cause conflict, just an exchange of opinions and perspectives. The title of being a "good leader" or running a "good regiment" doesn't mean very much to me since I left the scene a little over a year ago. I do believe in my own opinion that I was a decent leader, likely better organizationally then I was on the battlefield but i was alright there too. I felt the 4th was really good at times and not so good at others. Very much lacked consistency.[close][close]
The 4th spent 6 months going head to head with the best NA regiments at the time and beating most of them, coming in 3rd place in league 1 during the largest season of NANWL. Even when it came back for Season 7 and was pretty much a discount version of its former self it managed to remain credibly competitive.
They weren't semi professional. They were amatuer just like every other regiment in this game.Yeah, the only professional regiment in this game is the 18e, like come on.
They weren't semi professional. They were amatuer just like every other regiment in this game.
well why don't you just say competitive and semi competitiveWe do. We also say Comp and Casual.
3rd wow ok but lets look at the other regimentsHey, so serious question. I would like to know the general community viewing of the 4th and myself as it's leader. Not looking to start a banter fest in any way, I am just curious. I may reply but don't take it in any way that is like "mad" and such I just am open to having civil discussion about the regiment from my perspective as well as yours and how they relate. I'd prefer long replies similar to that one that was written for Irish about the 6te because it was informative. Yknow, the one that Risk uses as his sig.the 4th was dust in the wind
Thanks guys.SpoilerJust want to re-iterate that I am not looking to cause conflict, just an exchange of opinions and perspectives. The title of being a "good leader" or running a "good regiment" doesn't mean very much to me since I left the scene a little over a year ago. I do believe in my own opinion that I was a decent leader, likely better organizationally then I was on the battlefield but i was alright there too. I felt the 4th was really good at times and not so good at others. Very much lacked consistency.[close]
The 4th spent 6 months going head to head with the best NA regiments at the time and beating most of them, coming in 3rd place in league 1 during the largest season of NANWL. Even when it came back for Season 7 and was pretty much a discount version of its former self it managed to remain credibly competitive.
3rd wow ok but lets look at the other regimentsHey, so serious question. I would like to know the general community viewing of the 4th and myself as it's leader. Not looking to start a banter fest in any way, I am just curious. I may reply but don't take it in any way that is like "mad" and such I just am open to having civil discussion about the regiment from my perspective as well as yours and how they relate. I'd prefer long replies similar to that one that was written for Irish about the 6te because it was informative. Yknow, the one that Risk uses as his sig.the 4th was dust in the wind
Thanks guys.SpoilerJust want to re-iterate that I am not looking to cause conflict, just an exchange of opinions and perspectives. The title of being a "good leader" or running a "good regiment" doesn't mean very much to me since I left the scene a little over a year ago. I do believe in my own opinion that I was a decent leader, likely better organizationally then I was on the battlefield but i was alright there too. I felt the 4th was really good at times and not so good at others. Very much lacked consistency.[close]
The 4th spent 6 months going head to head with the best NA regiments at the time and beating most of them, coming in 3rd place in league 1 during the largest season of NANWL. Even when it came back for Season 7 and was pretty much a discount version of its former self it managed to remain credibly competitive.Spoiler4 15thCC
5 IV Comp Line
6 LIR
7 22nd
8 Moskov Grens (Withdrew)
9 8th (Withdrew)[close]
yeahhh....
largest =/= best and the 4th without godfreid is a slow death
Is this an ego boosting session?seems like it.
who the heck is the 15thcclol
15thcc was actually a really weak regiment. They were good for like a week when they first formed and then they went downhill
The iv comp line were just a bunch of casul players with a random apoc and law thrown in
who the heck is the 15thcc
Is this an ego boosting session?
I stopped reading after Alexander and Lawrence
Meanwhile anything the 6te do is pure luckAny regiment that lost to the USMC should be immediately disqualified or their legacy called into question.
Ahh okay thank youI stopped reading after Alexander and Lawrence
tl;dr 15thCC was a bunch of competitive players lead by Alexander.
Meanwhile anything the 6te do is pure luck
Meanwhile anything the 6te do is pure luckAny regiment that lost to the USMC should be immediately disqualified or their legacy called into question.
There is literally 2 or 3 OG USMC left in the 15e.Meanwhile anything the 6te do is pure luckAny regiment that lost to the USMC should be immediately disqualified or their legacy called into question.
Didnt the 3eVolt lose to 15e ? lemow
There is literally 2 or 3 OG USMC left in the 15e.Meanwhile anything the 6te do is pure luckAny regiment that lost to the USMC should be immediately disqualified or their legacy called into question.
Didnt the 3eVolt lose to 15e ? lemow
Not to mention I specifically singled out USMC, which was cool unlike that shitty rehash led by a curry-eating elephant rider and his mentally deficient, penguin-esque squire.
Sorry the only man I @ to is my lord LEVYThere is literally 2 or 3 OG USMC left in the 15e.Meanwhile anything the 6te do is pure luckAny regiment that lost to the USMC should be immediately disqualified or their legacy called into question.
Didnt the 3eVolt lose to 15e ? lemow
Not to mention I specifically singled out USMC, which was cool unlike that shitty rehash led by a curry-eating elephant rider and his mentally deficient, penguin-esque squire.
@Unitater
Sorry the only man I @ to is my lord LEVYThere is literally 2 or 3 OG USMC left in the 15e.Meanwhile anything the 6te do is pure luckAny regiment that lost to the USMC should be immediately disqualified or their legacy called into question.
Didnt the 3eVolt lose to 15e ? lemow
Not to mention I specifically singled out USMC, which was cool unlike that shitty rehash led by a curry-eating elephant rider and his mentally deficient, penguin-esque squire.
@Unitater
Not really unless you are talking about that one match where they never moved from spawn and tied them (I think)?Meanwhile anything the 6te do is pure luckAny regiment that lost to the USMC should be immediately disqualified or their legacy called into question.
Didnt the 3eVolt lose to 15e ? lemow
IV Comp line had veterans like Darkenmal, Darth, AP0C, Krastinov, Lawbringer, Airraidre etc. Some of them were unknowns, but it was like the best players from 3-4 regiments, and they were pretty good.
Nothing official we did beat them in a 1v1 that we kidnap camped kinda didn't.Not really unless you are talking about that one match where they never moved from spawn and tied them (I think)?Meanwhile anything the 6te do is pure luckAny regiment that lost to the USMC should be immediately disqualified or their legacy called into question.
Didnt the 3eVolt lose to 15e ? lemow
1stFL beat every reg10'd every reg at that, perfect record, never lost a single round.
15thCC was good times for sure hahawow you were/are that young everything makes sense now, i assumed you were like around 18 when you were leading the 5th
cant believe i was leading a regiment and stuff when i was like 14-16. times have really flown by
I was 13 in Nr37 le dab1stFL beat every reg10'd every reg at that, perfect record, never lost a single round.15thCC was good times for sure hahawow you were/are that young everything makes sense now, i assumed you were like around 18 when you were leading the 5th
cant believe i was leading a regiment and stuff when i was like 14-16. times have really flown by
on one hand im happy to see myself on this list on the other hand I'm sad that I'm shit tier after winning NANWL
on one hand im happy to see myself on this list on the other hand I'm sad that I'm shit tier after winning NANWL
On one hand you won NANWL. On the other hand 12th & 3eVolt were put in League 2 that season so you didn't have to contend with them.
Don’t trigger me about season 2on one hand im happy to see myself on this list on the other hand I'm sad that I'm shit tier after winning NANWL
On one hand you won NANWL. On the other hand 12th & 3eVolt were put in League 2 that season so you didn't have to contend with them.
Didn't the 63e win the season after that?
Don’t trigger me about season 2on one hand im happy to see myself on this list on the other hand I'm sad that I'm shit tier after winning NANWL
On one hand you won NANWL. On the other hand 12th & 3eVolt were put in League 2 that season so you didn't have to contend with them.
Didn't the 63e win the season after that?
Don’t trigger me about season 2on one hand im happy to see myself on this list on the other hand I'm sad that I'm shit tier after winning NANWL
On one hand you won NANWL. On the other hand 12th & 3eVolt were put in League 2 that season so you didn't have to contend with them.
Didn't the 63e win the season after that?
At least you got on the list war lmao
on one hand im happy to see myself on this list on the other hand I'm sad that I'm shit tier after winning NANWL
On one hand you won NANWL. On the other hand 12th & 3eVolt were put in League 2 that season so you didn't have to contend with them.
Didn't the 63e win the season after that?
mayn fook the14th1a Svea yall were a bunch of hillcamping ego dicks
14thmayn fook the 14th yall were a bunch of hillcamping ego dicks
i did love those hills tho
WaaaaaaDon’t trigger me about season 2on one hand im happy to see myself on this list on the other hand I'm sad that I'm shit tier after winning NANWL
On one hand you won NANWL. On the other hand 12th & 3eVolt were put in League 2 that season so you didn't have to contend with them.
Didn't the 63e win the season after that?
At least you got on the list war lmao
WaaaaaaDon’t trigger me about season 2on one hand im happy to see myself on this list on the other hand I'm sad that I'm shit tier after winning NANWL
On one hand you won NANWL. On the other hand 12th & 3eVolt were put in League 2 that season so you didn't have to contend with them.
Didn't the 63e win the season after that?
At least you got on the list war lmao
1aSvea Livgarde? never heard of them.must've just been a nightmare i guess
Even to this day overshadowed by the 15th1aSvea Livgarde? never heard of them.must've just been a nightmare i guess
Didn’t you recruit my brother lmaoEven to this day overshadowed by the 15th1aSvea Livgarde? never heard of them.must've just been a nightmare i guess
Fuckin toothbrushDidn’t you recruit my brother lmaoEven to this day overshadowed by the 15th1aSvea Livgarde? never heard of them.must've just been a nightmare i guess
1stFL beat every reg10'd every reg at that, perfect record, never lost a single round.15thCC was good times for sure hahawow you were/are that young everything makes sense now, i assumed you were like around 18 when you were leading the 5th
cant believe i was leading a regiment and stuff when i was like 14-16. times have really flown by
edit: me and cheesy should be elite tier. no one led like us and no one ever will.
Cheesey still underrated somehow.. it is a great sin to attribute the success of the 71st merely to melee competencehow come the 71st weren't top tier before the 12th boys though
1. Most of that time wasn’t CheeseyCheesey still underrated somehow.. it is a great sin to attribute the success of the 71st merely to melee competencehow come the 71st weren't top tier before the 12th boys though
idk about that one bro lol pretty sure cheesey was colonel of the 71st when the 31e shared a teamspeak with them in 2013 when we 2v1'd them and they beat us1. Most of that time wasn’t CheeseyCheesey still underrated somehow.. it is a great sin to attribute the success of the 71st merely to melee competencehow come the 71st weren't top tier before the 12th boys though
2. They were for the whole time he was col
http://nwcommunity.wikia.com/wiki/71st_(Highland)_Regiment_of_Footidk about that one bro lol pretty sure cheesey was colonel of the 71st when the 31e shared a teamspeak with them in 2013 when we 2v1'd them and they beat us1. Most of that time wasn’t CheeseyCheesey still underrated somehow.. it is a great sin to attribute the success of the 71st merely to melee competencehow come the 71st weren't top tier before the 12th boys though
2. They were for the whole time he was col
around the time the pants too cheesey to take off meme came around
this confirms what I was sayinghttp://nwcommunity.wikia.com/wiki/71st_(Highland)_Regiment_of_FootSpoileridk about that one bro lol pretty sure cheesey was colonel of the 71st when the 31e shared a teamspeak with them in 2013 when we 2v1'd them and they beat us1. Most of that time wasn’t CheeseyCheesey still underrated somehow.. it is a great sin to attribute the success of the 71st merely to melee competencehow come the 71st weren't top tier before the 12th boys though
2. They were for the whole time he was col
around the time the pants too cheesey to take off meme came around[close]
You can be the GOAT leader but you still won't get far without competent melee*insert red hoodie karth meme*
You can be the GOAT leader but you still won't get far without competent melee
this confirms what I was sayinghttp://nwcommunity.wikia.com/wiki/71st_(Highland)_Regiment_of_FootSpoileridk about that one bro lol pretty sure cheesey was colonel of the 71st when the 31e shared a teamspeak with them in 2013 when we 2v1'd them and they beat us1. Most of that time wasn’t CheeseyCheesey still underrated somehow.. it is a great sin to attribute the success of the 71st merely to melee competencehow come the 71st weren't top tier before the 12th boys though
2. They were for the whole time he was col
around the time the pants too cheesey to take off meme came around[close]You can be the GOAT leader but you still won't get far without competent melee*insert red hoodie karth meme*
il a little offended there is no mention of the 25e guys that joined :(http://nwcommunity.wikia.com/wiki/71st_(Highland)_Regiment_of_Footidk about that one bro lol pretty sure cheesey was colonel of the 71st when the 31e shared a teamspeak with them in 2013 when we 2v1'd them and they beat us1. Most of that time wasn’t CheeseyCheesey still underrated somehow.. it is a great sin to attribute the success of the 71st merely to melee competencehow come the 71st weren't top tier before the 12th boys though
2. They were for the whole time he was col
around the time the pants too cheesey to take off meme came around
well yeah they were competitive at the least since UG days but that 3e win being the only impressive one on the record pre-12th makes me skeptical, it seemed like that 3e win happened very near to the 12th migration too. i would like some anecdotes on how 3e lost that 1v1 in particular if anyone from that is still aliveYou got the timing right but read the sentence about the wins/ties they logged, shows that they were at least competitive before 12th migrationSpoilerthis confirms what I was sayinghttp://nwcommunity.wikia.com/wiki/71st_(Highland)_Regiment_of_FootSpoileridk about that one bro lol pretty sure cheesey was colonel of the 71st when the 31e shared a teamspeak with them in 2013 when we 2v1'd them and they beat us1. Most of that time wasn’t CheeseyCheesey still underrated somehow.. it is a great sin to attribute the success of the 71st merely to melee competencehow come the 71st weren't top tier before the 12th boys though
2. They were for the whole time he was col
around the time the pants too cheesey to take off meme came around[close]You can be the GOAT leader but you still won't get far without competent melee*insert red hoodie karth meme*[close]
fun factwell yeah they were competitive at the least since UG days but that 3e win being the only impressive one on the record pre-12th makes me skeptical, it seemed like that 3e win happened very near to the 12th migration too. i would like some anecdotes on how 3e lost that 1v1 in particular if anyone from that is still aliveYou got the timing right but read the sentence about the wins/ties they logged, shows that they were at least competitive before 12th migrationSpoilerthis confirms what I was sayinghttp://nwcommunity.wikia.com/wiki/71st_(Highland)_Regiment_of_FootSpoileridk about that one bro lol pretty sure cheesey was colonel of the 71st when the 31e shared a teamspeak with them in 2013 when we 2v1'd them and they beat us1. Most of that time wasn’t CheeseyCheesey still underrated somehow.. it is a great sin to attribute the success of the 71st merely to melee competencehow come the 71st weren't top tier before the 12th boys though
2. They were for the whole time he was col
around the time the pants too cheesey to take off meme came around[close]You can be the GOAT leader but you still won't get far without competent melee*insert red hoodie karth meme*[close]
moskov and 1stFL were not top tier regs either
Ap0c I demand you end this meme ! remove Maple from leaders and re-add ME
FUCK
idk about that one bro lol pretty sure cheesey was colonel of the 71st when the 31e shared a teamspeak with them in 2013 when we 2v1'd them and they beat us1. Most of that time wasn’t CheeseyCheesey still underrated somehow.. it is a great sin to attribute the success of the 71st merely to melee competencehow come the 71st weren't top tier before the 12th boys though
2. They were for the whole time he was col
around the time the pants too cheesey to take off meme came around
idk about that one bro lol pretty sure cheesey was colonel of the 71st when the 31e shared a teamspeak with them in 2013 when we 2v1'd them and they beat usSpoiler1. Most of that time wasn’t CheeseyCheesey still underrated somehow.. it is a great sin to attribute the success of the 71st merely to melee competencehow come the 71st weren't top tier before the 12th boys though
2. They were for the whole time he was col[close]
around the time the pants too cheesey to take off meme came around
I very vaguely remember that match lol
idk about that one bro lol pretty sure cheesey was colonel of the 71st when the 31e shared a teamspeak with them in 2013 when we 2v1'd them and they beat usSpoiler1. Most of that time wasn’t CheeseyCheesey still underrated somehow.. it is a great sin to attribute the success of the 71st merely to melee competencehow come the 71st weren't top tier before the 12th boys though
2. They were for the whole time he was col[close]
around the time the pants too cheesey to take off meme came around
I very vaguely remember that match lol
small world huh you were in a tiny reggy too?
dam well we prolly had around the same amount maybe less, we were trash tier reggys back then lol thas okay casual was still extreme funYeah I lead the Nr48 in that match, had like 10-13 guys that day lolSpoileridk about that one bro lol pretty sure cheesey was colonel of the 71st when the 31e shared a teamspeak with them in 2013 when we 2v1'd them and they beat usSpoiler1. Most of that time wasn’t CheeseyCheesey still underrated somehow.. it is a great sin to attribute the success of the 71st merely to melee competencehow come the 71st weren't top tier before the 12th boys though
2. They were for the whole time he was col[close]
around the time the pants too cheesey to take off meme came around
I very vaguely remember that match lol
small world huh you were in a tiny reggy too?[close]
25e was a fun reg to 1v1 against & Unlosing Buddy and Walter were good at melee when they played.yea. They were cool kids. 25e kinda merged(not really a merge) into the 71st and were a big part for awhile
The 25e was our core for a long time25e was a fun reg to 1v1 against & Unlosing Buddy and Walter were good at melee when they played.yea. They were cool kids. 25e kinda merged(not really a merge) into the 71st and were a big part for awhile