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Re: James' North American Draft League [Season 2]
« Reply #45 on: July 09, 2023, 09:57:30 am »
Looks like fun!

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Re: James' North American Draft League [Season 2]
« Reply #46 on: July 09, 2023, 10:44:17 pm »
Can’t believe I’ve been away for so long that I get to see a an out in the open corrupt tournament!  I just have a question…if Shaq had gone to the NBA when he and Kobe had beef and said “Yo I ain’t going to play because Kobe is playing” do you think they would have been like “ Yes Shaq whatever you want…Sorry Kobe you can’t play.” Wtf no.

You may be wondering wtf was this post. To give some clarity, someone from this community that wants to play and was ASKED to play in this tournament has been told they can’t because someone else doesn’t want them in the league cause they don’t like them. I usually don’t care what goes on here since it’s mainly comp events now and we have less than 100 people actively playing. But every now and then I hear the comment “I wish more people played” or “there’s not enough people for this league”….I am beginning to see why.

Let the guy play. Plain and simple. If we had acted this way since the comp scene started it would have died years ago. I think someone put it best about 4 years ago like this:

https://gyazo.com/952b7fbc78f16f16c366db1fee53ff92
https://gyazo.com/1b6c7e68c29cc3ea379404a0a23ac1c5

It definitely shows how hypocritical some of you are.  I really do wish the best for most of you whether you hate me or like me. Truly this game provided plenty of great memories for everyone. Why would you tarnish the comp scene by doing this?

That’s all from me. I won’t post anything more here but I felt it was important for some of you to actually think about what and why you are doing what you do.  At the end of the day it’s just a game which everyone should have the chance to enjoy.

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Re: James' North American Draft League [Season 2]
« Reply #47 on: July 09, 2023, 11:30:41 pm »
I won’t post anything more here
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Re: James' North American Draft League [Season 2]
« Reply #48 on: July 10, 2023, 01:00:30 am »
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Can’t believe I’ve been away for so long that I get to see a an out in the open corrupt tournament!  I just have a question…if Shaq had gone to the NBA when he and Kobe had beef and said “Yo I ain’t going to play because Kobe is playing” do you think they would have been like “ Yes Shaq whatever you want…Sorry Kobe you can’t play.” Wtf no.

You may be wondering wtf was this post. To give some clarity, someone from this community that wants to play and was ASKED to play in this tournament has been told they can’t because someone else doesn’t want them in the league cause they don’t like them. I usually don’t care what goes on here since it’s mainly comp events now and we have less than 100 people actively playing. But every now and then I hear the comment “I wish more people played” or “there’s not enough people for this league”….I am beginning to see why.

Let the guy play. Plain and simple. If we had acted this way since the comp scene started it would have died years ago. I think someone put it best about 4 years ago like this:

https://gyazo.com/952b7fbc78f16f16c366db1fee53ff92
https://gyazo.com/1b6c7e68c29cc3ea379404a0a23ac1c5

It definitely shows how hypocritical some of you are.  I really do wish the best for most of you whether you hate me or like me. Truly this game provided plenty of great memories for everyone. Why would you tarnish the comp scene by doing this?

That’s all from me. I won’t post anything more here but I felt it was important for some of you to actually think about what and why you are doing what you do.  At the end of the day it’s just a game which everyone should have the chance to enjoy.
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We're just taking an entire argument out of context, mischaracterizing it and running with it. Cool and actually entirely expected.

The argument from 5 years ago was about banning "all people" who "went too far". My position on it was that A) going too far is a vague offense, if we're going to enforce banning people from the community we need to be able to come together as a community to agree explicitly on what constitutes as "going to far", so we're not just banning everyone who's ever offended anyone else within the community, because if we did that, the community would be non-existent. It wasn't a defense for people being able to make fun of suicide attempts, dead relatives/friends, doxxing, ddosing, medical conditions etc., and being able to continue to exist within the community with no consequences.

It was a statement that if we're going to ban people from the community we should come up with guidelines pertaining to what offenses are unacceptable, how many strikes do we give a person before we actually ban them, which offense carry what weight in the strikes. Which ties into my next point which was that B) We couldn't do that because the community was so large, with so many sub-communities and no remote semlance of unity that even if regiments/groups "ab&c" came together and said "if you do actions xyz, 3 times, you'll be permanantly banned from any event/tournament we host" regiments/groups "de&f" could easily come along and say "Well you can still play here" and negate the whole thing. Without at least a solid majority of regiments/groups agreeing to both a guideline and being willing to actually enforce it, not just on the players, but on the communities and players who helped those players circumvent the enforcement. And that's nothing to say of the pure volatility of regiment/group stability that historically existed within the community, regiments/groups "ab&c" might not even exist 2 weeks after agreeing to those guidelines, leaving no way to enforce them.

Basically, my issue 5 years ago was that I felt the term people were using ("going too far") was too vague for itself to be a bannable offense, and that there was no practical way to enforce any guidelines. My issue wasn't with the idea of ridding the community of people who consistently, and without any provocation, cross extremely personal lines with the goal of making another player feel as shitty as they possibly think they can. Doing it once, maybe a heat of the moment thing, doing it over multiple years at every opportunity is a character issue.
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Re: James' North American Draft League [Season 2]
« Reply #49 on: July 10, 2023, 01:31:25 am »
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Can’t believe I’ve been away for so long that I get to see a an out in the open corrupt tournament!  I just have a question…if Shaq had gone to the NBA when he and Kobe had beef and said “Yo I ain’t going to play because Kobe is playing” do you think they would have been like “ Yes Shaq whatever you want…Sorry Kobe you can’t play.” Wtf no.

You may be wondering wtf was this post. To give some clarity, someone from this community that wants to play and was ASKED to play in this tournament has been told they can’t because someone else doesn’t want them in the league cause they don’t like them. I usually don’t care what goes on here since it’s mainly comp events now and we have less than 100 people actively playing. But every now and then I hear the comment “I wish more people played” or “there’s not enough people for this league”….I am beginning to see why.

Let the guy play. Plain and simple. If we had acted this way since the comp scene started it would have died years ago. I think someone put it best about 4 years ago like this:

https://gyazo.com/952b7fbc78f16f16c366db1fee53ff92
https://gyazo.com/1b6c7e68c29cc3ea379404a0a23ac1c5

It definitely shows how hypocritical some of you are.  I really do wish the best for most of you whether you hate me or like me. Truly this game provided plenty of great memories for everyone. Why would you tarnish the comp scene by doing this?

That’s all from me. I won’t post anything more here but I felt it was important for some of you to actually think about what and why you are doing what you do.  At the end of the day it’s just a game which everyone should have the chance to enjoy.
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We're just taking an entire argument out of context, mischaracterizing it and running with it. Cool and actually entirely expected.

The argument from 5 years ago was about banning "all people" who "went too far". My position on it was that A) going too far is a vague offense, if we're going to enforce banning people from the community we need to be able to come together as a community to agree explicitly on what constitutes as "going to far", so we're not just banning everyone who's ever offended anyone else within the community, because if we did that, the community would be non-existent. It wasn't a defense for people being able to make fun of suicide attempts, dead relatives/friends, doxxing, ddosing, medical conditions etc., and being able to continue to exist within the community with no consequences.

It was a statement that if we're going to ban people from the community we should come up with guidelines pertaining to what offenses are unacceptable, how many strikes do we give a person before we actually ban them, which offense carry what weight in the strikes. Which ties into my next point which was that B) We couldn't do that because the community was so large, with so many sub-communities and no remote semlance of unity that even if regiments/groups "ab&c" came together and said "if you do actions xyz, 3 times, you'll be permanantly banned from any event/tournament we host" regiments/groups "de&f" could easily come along and say "Well you can still play here" and negate the whole thing. Without at least a solid majority of regiments/groups agreeing to both a guideline and being willing to actually enforce it, not just on the players, but on the communities and players who helped those players circumvent the enforcement. And that's nothing to say of the pure volatility of regiment/group stability that historically existed within the community, regiments/groups "ab&c" might not even exist 2 weeks after agreeing to those guidelines, leaving no way to enforce them.

Basically, my issue 5 years ago was that I felt the term people were using ("going too far") was too vague for itself to be a bannable offense, and that there was no practical way to enforce any guidelines. My issue wasn't with the idea of ridding the community of people who consistently cross extremely personal lines with the goal of making another player feel as shitty as they possibly think they can. Doing it once, maybe a heat of the moment thing, doing it over multiple years at every opportunity is a character issue.
Starting off a sentence with an insult? Typical coming from you. You cannot have a normal conversation without throwing sneak disses at another person. Anyways, let's move onto the actual point of me saying anything to you.

I haven't played NW in over a year consistently, besides coming back for those two small tournaments Soulja and James hosted (still got a higher placement than you even when I'm barely playing). I haven't done anything to you except shit talk you in chat every once and awhile because it's funny. You're an easy target, always have been. You go out of your way to block me out of everything you possibly can so I can't contribute to the game anymore. Sounds like you're the person who has a character problem. The game is already small enough, with hardly any good players. Why wouldn't you want an extra player? I firmly believe you struggle with power issues in real life and online. You can't do anything without throwing a fit if it doesn't go your way. You've always cried, that's why I make fun of you.

James originally invited me to this league offering me a spot to play, but quickly withdrew once I said I would play. He said, "I'm not sure if people are okay with you playing" so he suggested he ask all of the captains to see if they were okay with me playing, you're the only captain who wasn't (as far as I know). I guess that wasn't enough for James so he then lined up our track record (who left more leagues, who causes more problems, etc...) when none of that even matters. All in all he's not allowing me to play because you can't stand to be near me (LMFAO!). You are a grown man and you act like this over words on a screen? I've tried adding you on Steam, talking on Ts, and any other way to reach you so me and you could come to a meeting ground so it's not like this, but you refuse. That's on you. You failed to address anything about me in your post because you know you're acting silly. What's even funnier is that I didn't say anything to you in the 2v2 tournament at all. You're truly a victim card player, but I got to say, if your mission in life is to not ever let me playing a draft league in NW then good job! I haven't played in the past 5 draft leagues and I still have a better KDR than you. Is it the pure pressure of me spitting on you in the chat or is it the getting wiped part? To me, it's both. Just remember everyone, Godfreid is controlling James' league with just words, so let's imagine what's going on behind closed doors. Sad what this community has come to. If you can't control yourself over words on a screen then just don't play online lol. Don't wanna see what I have to say? Mute me. You act like you were going to draft me anyways, literally just a cry baby.

Tl;dr

- Godfreid threatened to drop out of the league if I played
- James tried coming up with a solution so we could both play (never resolved)
- James made me a deal to ask all of the captains to see if they were okay with me playing (only Godfreid said no)
- Was banned for no reason (I don't hack, ddos, doxx, etc...) what's the reasoning?
- Was told it wasn't bias but no reason was provided other than Godfreid was going to drop if I played. Not everything revolves around him.
« Last Edit: July 10, 2023, 01:35:21 am by VetroG »

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Re: James' North American Draft League [Season 2]
« Reply #50 on: July 10, 2023, 01:37:11 am »
Someone please send me the tl;dr, I ain’t reading NW’s Lord of The Retards by J.R.R. GodTroBean

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Re: James' North American Draft League [Season 2]
« Reply #51 on: July 10, 2023, 01:47:20 am »

1x NA Duel- Runner up |  3x 3v3- 3rd place (Seadderol Deflatriots) (Ez Money) (71st Guards + Russian) | 1x Duel League- 4th place | 1x Regimental Groupfighting- 1st place (71st)  l  1x 2v2- 3rd Place (Vortex/Theodin) | TNWL Season 2 - 1st Place l 1x 2v2- 1st Place (Theodin/Elite) l 2x NANWL-
 71st, Nr8(LG) l 1x 4v4- 1st Place (RussianFury, Waste, NickCole, Theodin) l 1x Cav Joust- 2nd Place l 1x 4v4-
 3rd Place (Theodin, AsianP, Sleek, Godfried, Lurvy) l 1x 5v5 - 1st Place (RussianFury, Yoshie, Krastinov, Jorge, Theodin - Thanos and his children)

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Re: James' North American Draft League [Season 2]
« Reply #52 on: July 10, 2023, 02:30:36 am »
i have zero context about any of this and the second i saw papabean my eyes glossed over, but imo it's a little hard to pick and choose who plays when every additional person modifies what format the league might be. It's not like there's some big precedent for banning people for shit character in NW either lol, just matters who you do it to :)

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Re: James' North American Draft League [Season 2]
« Reply #53 on: July 10, 2023, 02:34:46 am »
#FREETHEFATTIE

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« Reply #54 on: July 10, 2023, 03:03:28 am »
#FREETHEFATTIE
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Re: James' North American Draft League [Season 2]
« Reply #55 on: July 10, 2023, 03:10:44 am »
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Can’t believe I’ve been away for so long that I get to see a an out in the open corrupt tournament!  I just have a question…if Shaq had gone to the NBA when he and Kobe had beef and said “Yo I ain’t going to play because Kobe is playing” do you think they would have been like “ Yes Shaq whatever you want…Sorry Kobe you can’t play.” Wtf no.

You may be wondering wtf was this post. To give some clarity, someone from this community that wants to play and was ASKED to play in this tournament has been told they can’t because someone else doesn’t want them in the league cause they don’t like them. I usually don’t care what goes on here since it’s mainly comp events now and we have less than 100 people actively playing. But every now and then I hear the comment “I wish more people played” or “there’s not enough people for this league”….I am beginning to see why.

Let the guy play. Plain and simple. If we had acted this way since the comp scene started it would have died years ago. I think someone put it best about 4 years ago like this:

https://gyazo.com/952b7fbc78f16f16c366db1fee53ff92
https://gyazo.com/1b6c7e68c29cc3ea379404a0a23ac1c5

It definitely shows how hypocritical some of you are.  I really do wish the best for most of you whether you hate me or like me. Truly this game provided plenty of great memories for everyone. Why would you tarnish the comp scene by doing this?

That’s all from me. I won’t post anything more here but I felt it was important for some of you to actually think about what and why you are doing what you do.  At the end of the day it’s just a game which everyone should have the chance to enjoy.
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We're just taking an entire argument out of context, mischaracterizing it and running with it. Cool and actually entirely expected.

The argument from 5 years ago was about banning "all people" who "went too far". My position on it was that A) going too far is a vague offense, if we're going to enforce banning people from the community we need to be able to come together as a community to agree explicitly on what constitutes as "going to far", so we're not just banning everyone who's ever offended anyone else within the community, because if we did that, the community would be non-existent. It wasn't a defense for people being able to make fun of suicide attempts, dead relatives/friends, doxxing, ddosing, medical conditions etc., and being able to continue to exist within the community with no consequences.

It was a statement that if we're going to ban people from the community we should come up with guidelines pertaining to what offenses are unacceptable, how many strikes do we give a person before we actually ban them, which offense carry what weight in the strikes. Which ties into my next point which was that B) We couldn't do that because the community was so large, with so many sub-communities and no remote semlance of unity that even if regiments/groups "ab&c" came together and said "if you do actions xyz, 3 times, you'll be permanantly banned from any event/tournament we host" regiments/groups "de&f" could easily come along and say "Well you can still play here" and negate the whole thing. Without at least a solid majority of regiments/groups agreeing to both a guideline and being willing to actually enforce it, not just on the players, but on the communities and players who helped those players circumvent the enforcement. And that's nothing to say of the pure volatility of regiment/group stability that historically existed within the community, regiments/groups "ab&c" might not even exist 2 weeks after agreeing to those guidelines, leaving no way to enforce them.

Basically, my issue 5 years ago was that I felt the term people were using ("going too far") was too vague for itself to be a bannable offense, and that there was no practical way to enforce any guidelines. My issue wasn't with the idea of ridding the community of people who consistently cross extremely personal lines with the goal of making another player feel as shitty as they possibly think they can. Doing it once, maybe a heat of the moment thing, doing it over multiple years at every opportunity is a character issue.
Starting off a sentence with an insult? Typical coming from you. You cannot have a normal conversation without throwing sneak disses at another person. Anyways, let's move onto the actual point of me saying anything to you.

I haven't played NW in over a year consistently, besides coming back for those two small tournaments Soulja and James hosted (still got a higher placement than you even when I'm barely playing). I haven't done anything to you except shit talk you in chat every once and awhile because it's funny. You're an easy target, always have been. You go out of your way to block me out of everything you possibly can so I can't contribute to the game anymore. Sounds like you're the person who has a character problem. The game is already small enough, with hardly any good players. Why wouldn't you want an extra player? I firmly believe you struggle with power issues in real life and online. You can't do anything without throwing a fit if it doesn't go your way. You've always cried, that's why I make fun of you.

James originally invited me to this league offering me a spot to play, but quickly withdrew once I said I would play. He said, "I'm not sure if people are okay with you playing" so he suggested he ask all of the captains to see if they were okay with me playing, you're the only captain who wasn't (as far as I know). I guess that wasn't enough for James so he then lined up our track record (who left more leagues, who causes more problems, etc...) when none of that even matters. All in all he's not allowing me to play because you can't stand to be near me (LMFAO!). You are a grown man and you act like this over words on a screen? I've tried adding you on Steam, talking on Ts, and any other way to reach you so me and you could come to a meeting ground so it's not like this, but you refuse. That's on you. You failed to address anything about me in your post because you know you're acting silly. What's even funnier is that I didn't say anything to you in the 2v2 tournament at all. You're truly a victim card player, but I got to say, if your mission in life is to not ever let me playing a draft league in NW then good job! I haven't played in the past 5 draft leagues and I still have a better KDR than you. Is it the pure pressure of me spitting on you in the chat or is it the getting wiped part? To me, it's both. Just remember everyone, Godfreid is controlling James' league with just words, so let's imagine what's going on behind closed doors. Sad what this community has come to. If you can't control yourself over words on a screen then just don't play online lol. Don't wanna see what I have to say? Mute me. You act like you were going to draft me anyways, literally just a cry baby.

Tl;dr

- Godfreid threatened to drop out of the league if I played
- James tried coming up with a solution so we could both play (never resolved)
- James made me a deal to ask all of the captains to see if they were okay with me playing (only Godfreid said no)
- Was banned for no reason (I don't hack, ddos, doxx, etc...) what's the reasoning?
- Was told it wasn't bias but no reason was provided other than Godfreid was going to drop if I played. Not everything revolves around him.
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Let me just disspell the overarching theme of your post by stating, I couldn't care less what you say to or about me in game or in general. If what you said about me really bothered me, I would've muted you along with other people who say the same stuff. If you think this is about you calling me shitty ingame or saying something about me being 90 rated all time, or my KDR's or whatever, you're mistaken, none of that means anything to me. If any of that upset me, as you seem to think it does, I'd have issues with a lot more people than just you.

But what those people haven't done was, without provocation (or at all),  tried to roast dead friends, medical conditions of friends, dead relatives of friends and other super personal shit about them. You've repeatedly gone out of your way to try and start personal conflict with me (for funnies) and people who I consider friends, and you succeeded, now that your success is an inconvience for you, you want to talk about it.

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I've tried adding you on Steam, talking on Ts, and any other way to reach you so me and you could come to a meeting ground so it's not like this, but you refuse.

Of course I refuse. You and I genuinely have nothing to talk about. You can't change my mind about you, I don't give a shit about what you think or how you feel about me, there's no compromise to reach, no common ground to talk about.





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Re: James' North American Draft League [Season 2]
« Reply #56 on: July 10, 2023, 03:13:20 am »
DJ GODFREID
Also, I'm not friends with HiReaper, dudes a complete weirdo

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Re: James' North American Draft League [Season 2]
« Reply #57 on: July 10, 2023, 03:24:00 am »
lizzo dropped a new song who cares about this

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Re: James' North American Draft League [Season 2]
« Reply #58 on: July 10, 2023, 03:27:36 am »
DJ GODFREID
we the "luck is for those too lazy to train" music

1x NA Duel- Runner up |  3x 3v3- 3rd place (Seadderol Deflatriots) (Ez Money) (71st Guards + Russian) | 1x Duel League- 4th place | 1x Regimental Groupfighting- 1st place (71st)  l  1x 2v2- 3rd Place (Vortex/Theodin) | TNWL Season 2 - 1st Place l 1x 2v2- 1st Place (Theodin/Elite) l 2x NANWL-
 71st, Nr8(LG) l 1x 4v4- 1st Place (RussianFury, Waste, NickCole, Theodin) l 1x Cav Joust- 2nd Place l 1x 4v4-
 3rd Place (Theodin, AsianP, Sleek, Godfried, Lurvy) l 1x 5v5 - 1st Place (RussianFury, Yoshie, Krastinov, Jorge, Theodin - Thanos and his children)

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Re: James' North American Draft League [Season 2]
« Reply #59 on: July 10, 2023, 03:28:35 am »