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Title: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 04, 2016, 09:29:09 pm
So, I was posting that I wanted a laptop for something new. But someone in a local PC store reminded me that I wouldn't be able to run big nice graphical games.

So I was asking what would be the strongest build you guys suggest? I got a budget of 3000 euros.

I have set my eyes on  the Graphical card EVGA GTX 1080, and a quad core processor with an intel core i7-6700k

I do not know what to put more in. So suggestions are welcome. :)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on August 04, 2016, 10:03:01 pm
I just bought a PC for (almost) the same money.
This is what I got:

Intel Core i7-6900K
EVGA Nvidia GTX 1080
MSI X99A GODLIKE Gaming, Intel X99
64GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-2400
1TB Samsung 850 EVO
Blu-Ray Burner LG BH16NS55
1000W - BeQuiet! Dark Power Pro P11
ASUS ROG Xonar Phoebus Solo
Prolimatech Megahalems BeQuiet! PWM
Windows 10 Pro, 64 Bit, DE

I had another 512GB SSD at home and a 2TB Normal Sata drive, so I also plugged those in.
I also bought a pretty good PC case, lots of small fans and quite silent.
The system runs well and generally I get a much better frame rate in 4k than with my SLI 980TI setup. (Cause SLI support sucks for most games...)
I should have gotten the Intel Core i7-6950X and overclocked it, but meh, I went with the slightly cheaper option.

I suggest that you get a newer CPU than the one you chose.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on August 04, 2016, 10:10:33 pm
Personally for myself as I do alot of editing for work etc. I would want to go the full way for a 5930k.

To be honest if you have the money you could go for a 6800k but a 6700 is more than enough for just gaming.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 04, 2016, 10:17:04 pm
Alright thanks for the comments.

What is SLI actually what does it do? I'm not experienced with these terms, I apology. But I'd like to know it before I buy something. xd
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: McPero on August 04, 2016, 10:17:33 pm
Just build Rod of Ages first.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on August 04, 2016, 10:22:28 pm
SLI has 3 different types. Essentially SLI is the programming behind having 2 or more graphics cards working in the same PC. You need to have a new version of the SLI bridges which are expensive in order to run a 1080 in SLI

Tbh 2 1080's in 1 build is beyond overkill currently.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 04, 2016, 10:40:08 pm
so if i just buy a 1080 GTX card without SLI. would it run good graphics too? with good fps etc
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Sleek on August 04, 2016, 10:46:12 pm
Yes, it's basically the best card on the market right now
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 04, 2016, 10:48:57 pm
Nice. I'll just go with that one. Thanks. :)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MaxLam on August 04, 2016, 10:57:34 pm
But someone in a local PC store reminded me that I wouldn't be able to run big nice graphical games.
You can run everything with a 3000 euros laptop.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 04, 2016, 10:58:05 pm
Also Total War games? Like maxed out etc no lag.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on August 04, 2016, 11:03:15 pm
Like I told you on steam you don't need a 3k PC to run Total wars. My GTX 980 ran everything at max on all of them and still got like 80 FPS. Except for Rome 2 and Attila of course. Shit games that they are.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 04, 2016, 11:05:12 pm
Would the GTX 1080 have good FPS on Rome And Attila? Cause I really want a monster PC as these next gen games are coming out in 2017.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on August 04, 2016, 11:07:00 pm
Would the GTX 1080 have good FPS on Rome And Attila? Cause I really want a monster PC as these next gen games are coming out in 2017.
It's the nuttiest graphics card out there right now (besides the Titan)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on August 04, 2016, 11:09:03 pm
Yea its basicallly pointless asking. you wont get a better card.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 04, 2016, 11:09:39 pm
Alright then.

A friend suggested me this set-up. I think it looks alright?

Socket 2011 6900k i7
x99 Motherboard
GTX 1080 EVGA - No SLI
ASUS ROG - Rampage V Edition 10
ASUS GeForce GTX 1080 8G Strix
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on August 04, 2016, 11:57:13 pm
Makes no sense. Why do you have 2 Gracards in there?
SLI support for most games sucks, it is not worth going for SLI. A single 1080 will be good enough anyway.
Besides you would need 2 times the same card, same clock speed etc. otherwise it won't work.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 05, 2016, 12:08:16 am
Yeah my bad copied something wrong. Ill update it tommorow.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on August 05, 2016, 02:34:43 am
I'd be sure to get an 80+ Gold or Platinum Power Supply to provide some reliable power to those high end components. Also be sure to have a very nice cooling system, including multiple fans on the case to help circulate the hot air. It's paramount that something like that doesn't overheat, lol

Are you going to be going with 144hz monitor(s) or no?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on August 05, 2016, 04:06:16 am
Tbh, the only reason to buy a 1080 right now is if you want to do 4k gaming.
Otherwise the 980ti, which is currently only 420 euros (750 earlier this year...) is more than good enough.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Gurkha on August 05, 2016, 11:19:24 pm
Intel or AMD?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 05, 2016, 11:33:30 pm
I have an AMD atm. Never again!
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 05, 2016, 11:35:26 pm
I'd be sure to get an 80+ Gold or Platinum Power Supply to provide some reliable power to those high end components. Also be sure to have a very nice cooling system, including multiple fans on the case to help circulate the hot air. It's paramount that something like that doesn't overheat, lol

Are you going to be going with 144hz monitor(s) or no?

Hmm, can you list some powerful coolers? I have a TV as monitor now. Ppl advised me to buy a normal monitor pc screen but thats something for later.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on August 05, 2016, 11:57:42 pm
Anything from corsairs  closed water cooling line is good. I have the old H80i, this is the new version.

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/corsair-hydro-series-h80i-v2-all-in-one-extreme-performance-cpu-cooler-with-120mm-radiator-2x-120mm-
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on August 06, 2016, 12:12:09 am
Or just buy a good silent fan cooler...

And TV monitors are usualy the worst. Their refresh times are shit. They arent made for realtime.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on August 06, 2016, 12:19:02 am
I mean if he is going to pay 3 grand for a PC skipping on cooling is pointless. Not to mention if you replace the stock fans on a radiator like I did the thing ramped up is still quieter than my GPU fans.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Gurkha on August 06, 2016, 01:56:44 am
I have an AMD atm. Never again!

Why?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on August 06, 2016, 03:54:11 am
So just buy a good Aircooled solution. There are a bunch of problems with Watercooled systems that you don't have with aircooled ones.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on August 06, 2016, 04:14:41 am
Theres nothing wrong with a closed watercooled loop. You never need to change the water and the H80i costs around the same as a good air cooled solution but with up to 30-40% better performance not to mention a better overclock if he chose.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 06, 2016, 08:37:11 am
I have an AMD atm. Never again!

Why?
i do not know how to describe it in English but the graphics look like there is a bit of dust on it. Also i cant even play warband with max graphics without a good fps. Etc. Lags a lot.

And thanks for giving a bit of info about these coolers. Corsairs look good. Is that one you posted a quiet one? :)

What do you mean with refresh times on tv monitors?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on August 06, 2016, 02:16:03 pm
Sorry, I meant response time, not refresh time.

Basicially a TV monitor is not made for playing games etc. TV monitors response times are usually pretty bad.
Response time is the time the monitor needs to display a change. So if you for example, move your mouse from one corner of the screen to another, the TV monitor might display that movement much later than you actually did it. It might still be a 120hz monitor, and be able to display a high frame rate, but that will not help you. Basically, go for a monitor with very fast response times and if possible, also with either a 4k monitor, or a 144hz monitor.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 06, 2016, 03:05:50 pm
So that is why I'm bad at melee. :O It feels indeed slower. I always play into windowed mode but when i go full game its like 5 secs delayed. Windowed mode is also crap.

Thanks for telling me this. Cause This also was an answer I needed. xD I'll defo get a monitor now.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on August 06, 2016, 05:20:54 pm
Buying a 144hz Monitor was probably the best choice I made for upgrading my setup a few years back. Dis what I got and its alot cheaper now than what I payed.

http://www.ebuyer.com/436992-asus-vg248qe-24-led-lcd-hdmi-monitor-vg248qe?mkwid=sgNuFxE3X_dc&pcrid=51482416139&pkw=&pmt=&gclid=CjwKEAjwlZa9BRCw7cS66eTxlCkSJAC-ddmwC6OXgfOk_WSxE1an7Iz_POO3afb0_kJvD7UKi6vHehoCBT_w_wcB
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 06, 2016, 05:25:57 pm
Yeah. I'm going to buy one. I need one. But after my PC, costs all very much. Been working for months now to have this money.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Riddlez on August 06, 2016, 10:34:07 pm
Olafson speficially here to call shit on your setup =D

Anyhow, I'll take it.

I forgot all the details but the main shit is this:

AMD FX-8350 as CPU
Radeon R9 280X as GPU
Some decent MSI motherboard I forgot the model of.
Crucial Ballistix 8GB DDR3-1600 for RAM
1000 GB HDD Sata III for HDD

And a decent Samsung screen I forgot the model of.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on August 07, 2016, 02:07:12 am
Wat?

You know I spend an incredible amount of money this year on hardware. It is is ridiculous. And also the reason why I have only 80 euro on my bank account at the moment. Lel.

Like begining of the year I thought that I should upgrade my (now old) system and I bought two 980TIs for 700 and 750...
Then one of my 4K monitors broke, so I bought another one for 500. I then also decided to update my RAM to 64 GIG and bought another set of ram for 120. Then I decided to buy a 1080 for 750 and scrap my two 980TI cards. Then part of my motherboard started malfunctioning and because I can, I decided to buy a whole new setup for 3.1K Plan was to put my (old) SSD and HDD in there and also use the 1080. I also wanted to put in my old 64gig of ram (I bought 32 with the PC) to upgrade my system a bit, but then realised that I was stupid and forgot that my old ram is DDR3 and the new is DDR4. (I actually spend a good 5 minutes wondering why the fuck the ram wouldn't fit in the slot... :P) and I decided to buy another 32gb of ddr4 ram for 120, so that I have at least 64GB.

So yeah, long story short, I was super stupid spend way to much money on PC parts and now I am broke. Hurrah.


Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Windflower on August 07, 2016, 02:09:57 am
Rip BCoF development
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on August 07, 2016, 02:15:55 am
Jeez
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on February 22, 2017, 11:15:53 am
Well, I was still saving some money and I came to the conclusion of this setup. If something could be made better please do make sure to give any suggestions or ideas.


Intel Core i7-6800K Boxed
   
1   MSI X99A SLI Plus   
1   MSI GeForce GTX 1080 8GB   
1   WD Red Pro WD4002FFWX, 4TB   
1   Scythe Mugen 5   
1   Corsair Vengeance LPX CMK16GX4M2A2400C16   
1   BitFenix Whisper BWG550M   
1   Crucial MX300 2,5" 525GB
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Haze on February 22, 2017, 05:39:43 pm
buy a i7-7700k instead of 6800 and get a GTX 1080 sli with the money spared.
Look for an BenQ or an Asus 144hz as monitor.
http://www.materiel.net/ecran-pc/benq-zowie-xl2411-135125.html
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on February 22, 2017, 05:52:06 pm
Well the socket from the 7700 isn't able to connect with the x99 motherboard I just learned so rip.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: GeneralSquirts on February 22, 2017, 08:04:18 pm
CPU: i5-6600k

CPU Cooler:
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-R2)

Motherboard:
MSI Z170A PC Mate

Memory:
EVGA DDR4 (16GB)

Storage: WD Blue 1TB Desktop Hard Disk Drive - 7200 RPM SATA 6 Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5 Inch - WD10EZEX

Video Card:
NVIDIA GTX 950

Case: Corsair Carbide Series SPEC-01 Mid Tower Gaming Computer Case

Power Supply: Corsair CX Series 750 Watt ATX/EPS Modular 80 PLUS Bronze ATX12V/EPS12V 744 Power Supply CX750M

Operating System:
Windows 10

Picture of my rig with everything installed
(https://i.imgur.com/Kya8Wkx.jpg)
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Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on February 22, 2017, 10:26:12 pm
I am simple man, I plug power into potato and cord from potato into monitor and boom, I am pro pc gamer ready to crush noobs
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Siwi on February 22, 2017, 11:34:32 pm
CPU: i5-6600k

CPU Cooler:
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-R2)

Motherboard:
MSI Z170A PC Mate

Memory:
EVGA DDR4 (16GB)

Storage: WD Blue 1TB Desktop Hard Disk Drive - 7200 RPM SATA 6 Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5 Inch - WD10EZEX

Video Card:
NVIDIA GTX 950

Case: Corsair Carbide Series SPEC-01 Mid Tower Gaming Computer Case

Power Supply: Corsair CX Series 750 Watt ATX/EPS Modular 80 PLUS Bronze ATX12V/EPS12V 744 Power Supply CX750M

Operating System:
Windows 10

Picture of my rig with everything installed
(https://i.imgur.com/Kya8Wkx.jpg)
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Stainless steel fridge, Squirts is a king among us peasants

Surprised your maid isnt in the background polishing the granite
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: GeneralSquirts on February 22, 2017, 11:43:22 pm
CPU: i5-6600k

CPU Cooler:
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-R2)

Motherboard:
MSI Z170A PC Mate

Memory:
EVGA DDR4 (16GB)

Storage: WD Blue 1TB Desktop Hard Disk Drive - 7200 RPM SATA 6 Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5 Inch - WD10EZEX

Video Card:
NVIDIA GTX 950

Case: Corsair Carbide Series SPEC-01 Mid Tower Gaming Computer Case

Power Supply: Corsair CX Series 750 Watt ATX/EPS Modular 80 PLUS Bronze ATX12V/EPS12V 744 Power Supply CX750M

Operating System:
Windows 10

Picture of my rig with everything installed
(https://i.imgur.com/Kya8Wkx.jpg)
[close]
Stainless steel fridge, Squirts is a king among us peasants

Surprised your maid isnt in the background polishing the granite

lol siwi, i always enjoy your humor much love.

also yes I have a chubby Jamaican maid who gives sloppy head.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Amit_ on March 02, 2017, 06:10:23 am
Core Components

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600Mhz
SSD: Kingston SSDNow V200 Series 64GB 2.5" SATA III
SSD: Corsair Force 60GB 2.5" SATAII
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 320GB 3.5" 7200RPM
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM ST2000DM001
HDD: Toshiba MK2035GSS 200GB 2.5" SATA I 4200RPM
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 480 4GB GAMING X
Case: Antec One ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: Corsair CX 550M 550W 80+ Bronze Semi-Modular ATX
Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit + Windows 8.1 Professional 64-Bit

Peripherals

Monitor: Asus VE247H 23.6" 1920x1080 Monitor
Monitor: Samsung SyncMaster 2053BW 20"
Monitor: Acer P206HL 20" LCD Monitor
Keyboard: Logitech G110
Mouse: SteelSeries Sensei RAW Wired Laser (Piece of shit, don't buy Steel Series mice; look up scroll wheel issue)
Speakers: Logitech X-540 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers
Headphones: KOSS PRODJ100 Over-Ear Audiophile Headphones
Microphone: Samson GTrack USB Condenser Mic

You can see my system in full here: https://pcpartpicker.com/b/pTbj4D (https://pcpartpicker.com/b/pTbj4D)  It has older components because I bought the CPU, motherboard and RAM last July from a friend when he was upgrading to Skylake. Chugs along fine, though. Replaced the well-aged HD 7850 with the amazing MSI RX 480 Gaming X and I can't hear the thing anymore. The fan doesn't run until it hits 65 Celsius.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on March 02, 2017, 06:57:24 pm
Why the two mini SSDs and 3 HDDs? Did you get a good deal on them or from a friend or something? You should probably get another 8GB of RAM at some point too, but it's not a bad rig. Was it cheap?

Also lol @Squirts with his 750W PSU for a GTX 950
Plenty of room to upgrade though
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Gurkha on March 02, 2017, 07:44:04 pm
Rip all ur intel builds.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Siwi on March 02, 2017, 11:44:43 pm
Core Components

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600Mhz
SSD: Kingston SSDNow V200 Series 64GB 2.5" SATA III
SSD: Corsair Force 60GB 2.5" SATAII
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 320GB 3.5" 7200RPM
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM ST2000DM001
HDD: Toshiba MK2035GSS 200GB 2.5" SATA I 4200RPM
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 480 4GB GAMING X
Case: Antec One ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: Corsair CX 550M 550W 80+ Bronze Semi-Modular ATX
Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit + Windows 8.1 Professional 64-Bit

Peripherals

Monitor: Asus VE247H 23.6" 1920x1080 Monitor
Monitor: Samsung SyncMaster 2053BW 20"
Monitor: Acer P206HL 20" LCD Monitor
Keyboard: Logitech G110
Mouse: SteelSeries Sensei RAW Wired Laser (Piece of shit, don't buy Steel Series mice; look up scroll wheel issue)
Speakers: Logitech X-540 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers
Headphones: KOSS PRODJ100 Over-Ear Audiophile Headphones
Microphone: Samson GTrack USB Condenser Mic

You can see my system in full here: https://pcpartpicker.com/b/pTbj4D (https://pcpartpicker.com/b/pTbj4D)  It has older components because I bought the CPU, motherboard and RAM last July from a friend when he was upgrading to Skylake. Chugs along fine, though. Replaced the well-aged HD 7850 with the amazing MSI RX 480 Gaming X and I can't hear the thing anymore. The fan doesn't run until it hits 65 Celsius.

I have the same Asus monitor, its pretty swanky, I also have the same SteelSeries mouse and the scrolling thing bugs the crap out of me, I didn't know it was a flaw with all of them
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Amit_ on March 03, 2017, 08:49:22 pm
Why the two mini SSDs and 3 HDDs? Did you get a good deal on them or from a friend or something? You should probably get another 8GB of RAM at some point too, but it's not a bad rig. Was it cheap?

Also lol @Squirts with his 750W PSU for a GTX 950
Plenty of room to upgrade though

Oh shit, I didn't realize this thread was for creating new builds. I saw Squirts post his specs and did the same. Everything in the build is super old as you can see if you look up the parts. The two components that were released in the past year are the graphics card and power supply. Everything else is at least 3 years old.



For anyone looking into AMD's new Ryzen CPUs that launched yesterday, hold off on getting one if you're into gaming and nothing else. If you're serious about doing multi-threaded workloads such as streaming, video editing, rendering, etc., then you should certainly get one since it's a better value than Intel in the majority of cases. However, gamers don't have much to gain from the Ryzen 7 line. Wait for Ryzen 5 chips as they are more suited to just gaming and not being overkill. It's the same reason why you don't need to buy an i7 for games over an i5. Expect the R5 to be very competitive with Kaby Lake i5 processors while being cheaper.

Odd-man-out note: If you want the highest fucking possible performance in Arma 3 period, then you need to get the i7-7700K for its superior single-threaded performance.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Ryner on March 06, 2017, 07:04:10 pm
Thinking of upgrading my GPU (currently EVGA GTX 950) sometime soon but I'm a bit limited by my PSU (Cosair 430W)... Any suggestions? I'm eyeing the GTX 1050ti right now.

CPU: i-5 6500 3.2 Ghz
MoBo: Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3
Ram: G.Skill Rip Jaws x2 8GB
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Gurkha on March 06, 2017, 07:18:32 pm
Thinking of upgrading my GPU (currently EVGA GTX 950) sometime soon but I'm a bit limited by my PSU (Cosair 430W)... Any suggestions? I'm eyeing the GTX 1050ti right now.

CPU: i-5 6500 3.2 Ghz
MoBo: Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3
Ram: G.Skill Rip Jaws x2 8GB

I would go with a rx 470, it performs much better than 1050ti and is better value for money as well.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Amit_ on March 07, 2017, 06:09:44 am
^ I agree with this. You could power an RX 480 or GTX 1060 just fine with that 430W PSU, though, too.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Gurkha on March 08, 2017, 08:40:47 pm
Stick to 144hz or go 240hz?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Amit_ on March 08, 2017, 10:04:41 pm
240Hz means you need a system that can push out more than 240 FPS most of the time to actually make use of that tech. Good luck keeping all your games above 240 FPS unless you run like a GTX 1080 or 1080Ti. 144Hz is way more sensible and achievable while still being affordable. Me? I'm just happy to be able to hit 60 FPS in most of my games now.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on March 08, 2017, 11:42:21 pm
Quick question: Anyone have any decent budget builds from 600-1000? Should I go for Ryzen?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on March 10, 2017, 09:59:39 pm
Definitely go for Ryzen if you can.

Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Wastee on March 24, 2017, 08:08:39 pm
Quick question: Anyone have any decent budget builds from 600-1000? Should I go for Ryzen?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: joer5835 on March 24, 2017, 08:26:22 pm
Definitely go for Ryzen if you can.

Huh. As someone currently considering upgrading to a kaby lake CPU, I am also looking at Ryzen. But, why would you recommend getting a Ryzen CPU?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Bauer16 on March 25, 2017, 11:04:37 pm
Quick question: Anyone have any decent budget builds from 600-1000? Should I go for Ryzen?
I am very interested in seeing Ryzen succeed.  However, the results are a little disappointing.  So I would say wait until they work out some issues or avoid Ryzen if you want a new system in the near feature.

Here's a few reviews:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3180525/components-processors/amd-busts-ryzen-performance-myths-clearing-windows-10-and-others-from-blame.html (http://www.pcworld.com/article/3180525/components-processors/amd-busts-ryzen-performance-myths-clearing-windows-10-and-others-from-blame.html)
http://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-performance-of-ryzen-7-vs-core-i7-with-geforce-gtx-1080-ti/ (http://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-performance-of-ryzen-7-vs-core-i7-with-geforce-gtx-1080-ti/)

Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Gurkha on March 25, 2017, 11:56:47 pm
Buy Ryzen so I can get intel cpus cheaper  ::)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: GeneralSquirts on March 26, 2017, 01:16:43 am
Buy Ryzen so I can get intel cpus cheaper  ::)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Amit_ on March 29, 2017, 12:33:37 am
Woops, just realized that I wrote 8GB in my RAM section when it's actually 16GB lol. You can see 3 of the modules in the picture (4th is under the CPU cooler).
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: StevenChilton on July 10, 2017, 08:56:50 pm
I need to get a new desktop, have a budget of £800-£1000, but I'm not very technical so I kinda need some help. I figured I'd just choose out of these two:
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/guide/dNj48d/great-intel-gaming-build
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/guide/yDFfrH/great-amd-gaming-build

Which of these (if any) would you recommend? Are these complete build guides with nothing extra I need to get other than Windows and a WiFi Adapter? Cheers :)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Gurkha on July 10, 2017, 10:57:27 pm
I need to get a new desktop, have a budget of £800-£1000, but I'm not very technical so I kinda need some help. I figured I'd just choose out of these two:
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/guide/dNj48d/great-intel-gaming-build
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/guide/yDFfrH/great-amd-gaming-build

Which of these (if any) would you recommend? Are these complete build guides with nothing extra I need to get other than Windows and a WiFi Adapter? Cheers :)

Depends on what your going to use the PC for
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: StevenChilton on July 11, 2017, 12:17:27 am
The only demanding thing I'll be using it for is gaming, I'm not into CAD or anything like that.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on July 11, 2017, 12:50:35 am
That's a beast of a computer, very nice. Personally I'd go for the 1st over the 2nd but that's just because I prefer Intel, although I don't know how they compare nowadays.
Also DDR4 is still pretty, and I don't know if it's worth getting it just for gaming. Quantity of RAM is still more important than clock speeds, so 16GB of RAM will be plenty, even in DDR3.
You could spend the savings on a HDD to store games on if you want, but I don't know how much space you'll be needing. Games are getting very large (50-60GB for some new releases), and I don't know if 500GB will last if you want to only use an SSD.

You'll need Windows as I don't see it mentioned being included anywhere, but basic wireless capability is inbuilt in motherboards. If you have particularly rubbish WiFi (in apartment complexes or something) you could get an extra wireless card or a USB dongle but it's usually not needed.
I assume you'll be reusing your monitor, mouse and keyboard?
You'll need to get Office too, or use a free programme like OpenOffice, but it's not as polished (it is completely compatible though, so it does work as a temporary solution).
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Gurkha on July 11, 2017, 01:47:54 am
The only demanding thing I'll be using it for is gaming, I'm not into CAD or anything like that.

Go with first option, perhaps get a OC'abled i5 CPU + mobo instead. The new western digital ssd's are pretty new so I would wait on the reviews, also you'll be limiting yourself on storage space. 120gb/240gb sdd + western digital 1tb hdd would be better.

You'll need drivers saved on a usb since your build has no disk drive.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 27, 2017, 11:17:24 pm
Any feedback on this one?

CPU: AMD Ryzen™ 7 1800X
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX X370-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card SLI
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Luxe Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Full Tower Case
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Keyboard: Corsair - K70 LUX RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on August 27, 2017, 11:23:31 pm
Not sure why you would need 2 GTX 1080 ti's
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 27, 2017, 11:24:25 pm
I want to record YouTube videos and max out any game with a good amount of FPS.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on August 27, 2017, 11:31:26 pm
I want to record YouTube videos and max out any game with a good amount of FPS.
I can do that with 1 GTX 980 using Shadowplay, so still not sure why you need 2 of them.

Bare in mind they are about €900 each. When I record BF1, The Division and Warhammer I sit between 70-100 FPS which is more than enough. GTX 1080 ti is meant to be what, 25% better? More?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on August 28, 2017, 12:27:01 pm
Yeah I feel like a single 1080 Ti is plenty for now. You can always get a second if you need it in future, but for current games I can't imagine that you'll get much out of a second.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on August 28, 2017, 01:33:40 pm
Only reason I will be upgrading from a 980 to a 1080 ti is because of Star Citizen, no reason to do so otherwise.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 28, 2017, 07:40:00 pm
My final build.

(https://i.snag.gy/gQGubd.jpg)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on August 28, 2017, 07:43:30 pm
$600 for a motherboard? What are you building? A PC to fly you to Mars??
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 28, 2017, 07:45:11 pm
"I make my own money so I spend it how I like." - Rae Sremmurd.

I'll post it here again so people haven't got to check a page back. Pls give feedback about the actual build and not money. xd
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: joer5835 on August 28, 2017, 08:16:31 pm
You sure 1TB of storage data is enough for you? I know it sounds like a lot but with most games being between 50-80GB these days, 1TB is filled up very quickly.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 28, 2017, 08:27:07 pm
Yeah I was also wondering about it. Should I get 2 TB? I'll also record YouTube videos.

Are all these pieces compatible?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

Cause it gives me this message, but I don't understand a word from it.

"2 EPS power connectors are needed. We are currently entering in EPS connector data for power supplies to verify this is compatible. In the meantime, please verify the power supply has sufficient EPS connectors for the motherboard."
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: joer5835 on August 29, 2017, 08:30:28 pm
Definitely get 2TB. As for the other thing, I have no idea. Your motherboard looks to be compatible with your CPU, that's the most important part.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on August 29, 2017, 08:38:41 pm
Good build NiPhix, I might recommend a separate HDD to store videos and the like on just because a 2TB ssd is extremely expensive and they'll eventually go down in price so no point in dropping 400 on one.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 29, 2017, 08:50:29 pm
Oh well I have a new build but thanks for your feedback I will look into that shortly. This is my new update. Also included a Sound card.

I might replace EVGA with MSI. As EVGA is not quite known in Belgium. :c

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rFxWpb

Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on August 29, 2017, 09:33:37 pm
900 dollars for a 2tb ssd!?!?!?  :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 29, 2017, 09:40:05 pm
Yeah, but I might change it like you said. :p

I really don't know what to do more on this point I'm kinda stuck. I think it's a strong build but I'm open to any other suggestions for the SSD and Sound Card and any other addition a gaming pc MUST have.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on August 30, 2017, 02:49:23 am
I'd get a 3TB HDD for your videos, as they won't matter as much and will fill up space fast if they're high quality. The 1TB SSD should be fine for games for a while, assuming you don't install every single game you own.

I think the power thing is on about the connections from the PSU to the twin GPUs, as depending on how many extra things you have (maybe sound card?) you might fill up all the slots. I'd check where the sound card draws power from and count each individual slot.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Windflower on August 30, 2017, 03:25:54 am
The new desktop PC I ordered.

Spoiler
(https://i.gyazo.com/083f925703b1b9fcb062b2d5cd8f1e17.png)
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Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 30, 2017, 08:49:19 am
I'd get a 3TB HDD for your videos, as they won't matter as much and will fill up space fast if they're high quality. The 1TB SSD should be fine for games for a while, assuming you don't install every single game you own.

I think the power thing is on about the connections from the PSU to the twin GPUs, as depending on how many extra things you have (maybe sound card?) you might fill up all the slots. I'd check where the sound card draws power from and count each individual slot.

Thanks for explaining. I will let a friend who studied it build my PC. I'm a total newbie at it. I have a 2TB HDD used from an other PC. So I guess that's also plenty. The main thing is I don't know which sound card to get. Money should not be a problem. Can anyone suggest a high quality one?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: StevenChilton on August 30, 2017, 06:20:07 pm
What's the cheapest way to get Windows 10 for a newbuild PC?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on August 30, 2017, 06:46:47 pm
Cheapest would involve things which cannot be condoned on this website. Not a particularly safe option though.

Edit: No idea about sound cards tbh, the inbuilt one has always been enough for me
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on August 30, 2017, 06:47:21 pm
Anyone? :c

I'd get a 3TB HDD for your videos, as they won't matter as much and will fill up space fast if they're high quality. The 1TB SSD should be fine for games for a while, assuming you don't install every single game you own.

I think the power thing is on about the connections from the PSU to the twin GPUs, as depending on how many extra things you have (maybe sound card?) you might fill up all the slots. I'd check where the sound card draws power from and count each individual slot.

Thanks for explaining. I will let a friend who studied it build my PC. I'm a total newbie at it. I have a 2TB HDD used from an other PC. So I guess that's also plenty. The main thing is I don't know which sound card to get. Money should not be a problem. Can anyone suggest a high quality one?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: StevenChilton on August 30, 2017, 07:00:43 pm
Cheapest would involve things which cannot be condoned on this website. Not a particularly safe option though.

Edit: No idea about sound cards tbh, the inbuilt one has always been enough for me

Okay let me re-phrase that: what's the cheapest *legal* way of getting Windows 10?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Vincenzo on September 03, 2017, 12:51:55 am
Oh well I have a new build but thanks for your feedback I will look into that shortly. This is my new update. Also included a Sound card.

I might replace EVGA with MSI. As EVGA is not quite known in Belgium. :c

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rFxWpb

I think its a bad streaming build sorry. a 4 core is just not up to the task to both game and stream at the same time. even if you overclock that bitch to 5+ ghz.

if you're set on getting intel consider the newest I9 series with a decent board.. they start at 10 core... for 1000 bucks.. Or the 8 core i7..  which is 600 bucks i believe both on x299 platform.
Still I would recommend instead Ryzen, unless your on a 240 hz refresh monitor, anything below that, then the single core performance of ryzen doesn't really matter because it will be able to push frames, as long as you combine it with 3200mhz memory.

About SLI, I would def say don't invest into a SLI build its a waste of money mostly, many games cannot cope with 2 cards properly, you will get stutters and frame drops in the best case, buuut actually one card sitting idle in most cases, because of no SLI support in the games. That includes our upcoming game actually, no SLI support and no chance it will happen in the engine any time soon.

That SSD is a bad option, go for a 960 evo or 960 pro from samsung, if your budget allows, it is like 3 times as fast as a S-ata SDD, these are straight plugged into your motherboard on the PCI-E bus.

If you need more advice just ask.


About win 10, don't get the home version, just get a legal windows 10 pro key from  kinguin I get all my win 10 keys there, def legal def valid and legit. www.kinguin.net
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on September 03, 2017, 06:28:32 am
I'm not gonna stream just record YouTube videos. And I have seen you can turn SLI on and off in the nvidia panel for certain games. I'm also going to get a 165hz monitor from Asus
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Vincenzo on September 03, 2017, 12:11:07 pm
Exactly!.

Recording for youtube, you could do that with NVCapture, but the quality is very inferior compared to recording through OBS with X264 encoding. but to do that you def need more than 4 cores.

Also more and more games use more than 4 cores, like the latest mafia game.. more cores means being more set up for the future.

At this bumpy time with all these new high core count CPU releases it would be a waste not to jump on the train.. especially if you want to keep the pc for 2 years or longer.


About SLI, yeah you can ofc disable it, but why spend 800 euro on a card you hardly use except in 2 games, and those games stutter with many frame drops, but give you an artificial 200 AVERAGE fps. whilst some of those FPS can be as low as 10. due to syncing of data between cards.


About the 165 hz, nice!  I guess your best bet is going for those Intel high core counts. they have high single core + much more threads available.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on September 03, 2017, 01:13:14 pm
Ah thanks for the explanation, do you recommend any intels from the i7-i9 Versions??
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Vincenzo on September 03, 2017, 01:29:43 pm
I would recommend if your budget allows to go for the Intel Core i9-7900X 10 core..  it has enough PCI-e Lanes for SLI if you want.. (44 lanes)
If you are dropping SLI from your build you could go for the lower SKU; Intel Core i7-7820X. It has only 28 PCI-e lanes, so not enough for a SLI build but def enough for 1 card + a PCIe SSD.


Actually, speaking about PCI-e lanes.. a 7700K only has 16 lanes, so that's enough for.. 1 graphics card.. lol.. and not even an SSD.
A Ryzen entry level even has 24 PCI-E lanes.. damn.. intel cutting corners here. Hell a Threadripper from AMD has 64 lanes.. xD
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on September 03, 2017, 01:47:06 pm
If I take the i9 should I also change the motherboard? If so is there any you recommend? Value doesn't really matter in price.

And which ssd should I pick?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Vincenzo on September 03, 2017, 01:54:27 pm
Yes, ofc!, for a I9 you need a x299 motherboard. those 7700k motherboards have a difirent chipset and socket.

Which one exactly.. hard to say.. I haven't checked the reviews too much yet. but any of the main brands should be ok. as long as... the cooling is correct.

Very Important with x299 platform to check if the motherboard has a big heatsink on the mosfets with a extra heatpipe to the next cool block because those parts will get hot...

Motherboards that jump out for me:
Asus ROG Rampage VI Extreme
Gigabyte Aorus X299 Gaming 9
Gigabyte Aorus X299 Gaming 7

I think the ASus will release in a few weeks. thats the one i'm getting probably.. or those aorus.. their also talking to me, I'm getting a quite similar system as you actually.

For SSD, easy.

Go for Samsung 960 Pro if your budget allows it. if not, go for Samsung 960 Evo.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on September 03, 2017, 01:58:49 pm
Oh that's quite nice. I'm gonna make a new update on pcpartpicker on all the new details I have received from you. If I post it here today or tomorrow could you review it again?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Vincenzo on September 03, 2017, 01:59:31 pm
Geen probleem.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: StevenChilton on September 03, 2017, 06:19:55 pm
Thanks for the link-saw Kinguin but looked a bit suspicious. Slightly more expensive here but the buyer protection comes with it rather than an optional add-on that Kinguin charges for: https://softwaregeeks.co.uk/product-category/windows-10/

I have another question: I bought an Intel i5 7500 but I'm not sure whether I need to get a fan or if I can get away with the one it comes with? Most demanding thing I'll be using it for is gaming and I got a GTX 1080 for it (kinda annoying, I wanted to get a 1070 but the prices have increased considerably in the last few months).
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on September 03, 2017, 06:34:03 pm
Thanks for the link-saw Kinguin but looked a bit suspicious. Slightly more expensive here but the buyer protection comes with it rather than an optional add-on that Kinguin charges for: https://softwaregeeks.co.uk/product-category/windows-10/

I have another question: I bought an Intel i5 7500 but I'm not sure whether I need to get a fan or if I can get away with the one it comes with? Most demanding thing I'll be using it for is gaming and I got a GTX 1080 for it (kinda annoying, I wanted to get a 1070 but the prices have increased considerably in the last few months).
Bitcoin mining, its become a bitch for the market.

As long as you are not overclocking then you will be fine. Always a nice touch to buy a $40 if you have the cash laying around though. To increase longevity of the CPU.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Vincenzo on September 04, 2017, 10:32:57 am
Thanks for the link-saw Kinguin but looked a bit suspicious. Slightly more expensive here but the buyer protection comes with it rather than an optional add-on that Kinguin charges for: https://softwaregeeks.co.uk/product-category/windows-10/

I have another question: I bought an Intel i5 7500 but I'm not sure whether I need to get a fan or if I can get away with the one it comes with? Most demanding thing I'll be using it for is gaming and I got a GTX 1080 for it (kinda annoying, I wanted to get a 1070 but the prices have increased considerably in the last few months).

Nah, that cpu is medium speed, not overclocked probably, it doesn't hurt to keep the default cooler at all. i mean if you get a K series SKU and overclock it, then def you need a better cooling.
Cpu's don't die from heat as they used to.. no problems. waste of money.

Instead pocket the money for your next build. cause i feel that CPU won't last you long in terms of performance in upcoming games.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: StevenChilton on September 04, 2017, 03:27:23 pm
Thanks, was gonna spend a bit more on the CPU but my wife won't let me lol
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Vincenzo on September 04, 2017, 03:36:59 pm
Thanks, was gonna spend a bit more on the CPU but my wife won't let me lol
get a new wife.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on September 04, 2017, 03:54:04 pm
Thanks, was gonna spend a bit more on the CPU but my wife won't let me lol
get a new wife.
I agree.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: StevenChilton on September 05, 2017, 12:31:49 am
Kinda stuck looking for a monitor-any recommendations? Nothing massive, have a £200 budget.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Vincenzo on September 05, 2017, 02:15:26 pm
200 pounds, that is quite tight. try to get any 1440P monitor with 144+ hz with IPS panel.. if your budget allows it.

If on tight budget.. consider a TN panel instead.. with high refresh and 1440p?

If even tighter budget, consider a 1080P with 120+hz..
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on September 05, 2017, 02:17:10 pm
200 pounds, that is quite tight. try to get any 1440P monitor with 144+ hz with IPS panel.. if your budget allows it.
no way, that would cost around £450+.

My Asus 1080p 144hz monitor was £250 when I bought it 2 years ago. I am sure you can grab something for that price now
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Vincenzo on September 05, 2017, 02:21:46 pm
200 pounds, that is quite tight. try to get any 1440P monitor with 144+ hz with IPS panel.. if your budget allows it.
no way, that would cost around £450+.

My Asus 1080p 144hz monitor was £250 when I bought it 2 years ago. I am sure you can grab something for that price now

Yep your right.. market sucks.. but for 200 pounds a 1920x1080 144 hz TN monitor is possible.. their 24 inch.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on September 05, 2017, 02:25:16 pm
200 pounds, that is quite tight. try to get any 1440P monitor with 144+ hz with IPS panel.. if your budget allows it.
no way, that would cost around £450+.

My Asus 1080p 144hz monitor was £250 when I bought it 2 years ago. I am sure you can grab something for that price now

Yep your right.. market sucks.. but for 200 pounds a 1920x1080 144 hz TN monitor is possible.. their 24 inch.
don't remember the model of mine, Asus VG...

Its a good monitor to start out. Personally I am saving for a 4k 144 hz because why not
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Vincenzo on September 05, 2017, 02:27:17 pm
Yeah i'm waiting for ages already to get a 4k 144 hz, when will they FINALLY release them??

I'm so sick and tired of 60 hz on my screens.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: StevenChilton on September 05, 2017, 03:29:08 pm
So something like this maybe?
http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/pc-monitors/pc-monitors/aoc-i2369vm-full-hd-23-ips-led-monitor-with-mhl-21408588-pdt.html
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Vincenzo on September 05, 2017, 03:33:08 pm
So something like this maybe?
http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/pc-monitors/pc-monitors/aoc-i2369vm-full-hd-23-ips-led-monitor-with-mhl-21408588-pdt.html
No, I don't recommend that for gaming, it has a slow IPS panel and only 60 Hz, try to get a 120+ like 144hz gaming monitor. they cost twice as much but def worth it for gamers believe me.


On the same website I saw this for instance:
http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/pc-monitors/pc-monitors/acer-predator-gn246hlbbi-full-hd-24-3d-led-gaming-monitor-22071107-pdt.html
http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/pc-monitors/pc-monitors/aoc-g2460pf-full-hd-24-led-144hz-gaming-monitor-10141938-pdt.html
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: StevenChilton on September 05, 2017, 03:37:23 pm
Cheers, busting my budget here haha. If it wasn't for bitcoin mining!
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: StevenChilton on September 05, 2017, 04:29:24 pm
Okay, thoughts on this one?
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/samsung-c24fg70-24-1920x1080-va-freesync-144hz-gaming-quantum-dot-widescreen-monitor-mo-230-sa.html
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Vincenzo on September 05, 2017, 09:01:46 pm
Okay, thoughts on this one?
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/samsung-c24fg70-24-1920x1080-va-freesync-144hz-gaming-quantum-dot-widescreen-monitor-mo-230-sa.html

looks fine to me glancing over the specs. maybe look up some reviews online if it's any good.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: StevenChilton on September 12, 2017, 10:55:56 pm
Probably a retarded question but do I connect my graphics card straight to my monitor? It's currently connected up via HDMI from motherboard to monitor.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on September 12, 2017, 11:22:30 pm
Probably a retarded question but do I connect my graphics card straight to my monitor? It's currently connected up via HDMI from motherboard to monitor.
If it's a >60hz monitor then you'll need a displayport cable to get the higher refresh rate. HDMI is capped to 60. This needs to go from card directly into monitor. It also has to be enabled via the settings but I forgot how to but it's not very hard.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: StevenChilton on September 12, 2017, 11:28:42 pm
Okay, so I should just pull out the HDMI motherboard to monitor and have displayport from my graphics card to monitor as the only connection?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Toffee on September 13, 2017, 01:00:59 am
I bought a pentium for my new build. Good right?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on September 13, 2017, 01:06:34 am
Okay, so I should just pull out the HDMI motherboard to monitor and have displayport from my graphics card to monitor as the only connection?
Yes. DP cable from graphics card into monitor directly.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: StevenChilton on September 13, 2017, 01:48:57 am
Okay, so I should just pull out the HDMI motherboard to monitor and have displayport from my graphics card to monitor as the only connection?
Yes. DP cable from graphics card into monitor directly.

Cheers
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Vincenzo on September 13, 2017, 09:33:57 am
I bought a pentium for my new build. Good right?
No, not really no, post the full specs of your pc and your budget, maybe something else is possible.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Toffee on September 13, 2017, 10:22:36 am
I bought a pentium for my new build. Good right?
No, not really no, post the full specs of your pc and your budget, maybe something else is possible.
I was joking Vince  :-*
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Edwin on September 13, 2017, 05:41:45 pm
Cheers

This guy can read obscure EU legislation but couldn't hook up his monitor and graphics card ...
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on September 13, 2017, 05:52:52 pm
Well, whadda ya know, people have different areas of interest! What a scandal!
I can't code but I can perform a mental state examination. Weird how I can do one but not the other of these two unrelated things.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Toffee on September 13, 2017, 05:54:41 pm
Cheers

This guy can read obscure EU legislation but couldn't hook up his monitor and graphics card ...
It's almost like the two are unrelated
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Edwin on September 13, 2017, 06:12:35 pm
Whoa look at the Steven Chilton fan club over here... Yikes.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: StevenChilton on September 13, 2017, 06:23:01 pm
Cheers

This guy can read obscure EU legislation but couldn't hook up his monitor and graphics card ...
It's almost like the two are unrelated

Lol, when it comes to tech I'm kinda retarded.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Vincenzo on September 13, 2017, 07:07:25 pm
It's not the only subject where that applies. :P
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Toffee on September 13, 2017, 07:10:00 pm
It's not the only subject where that applies. :P
Such a savage
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: StevenChilton on September 13, 2017, 09:29:27 pm
It's not the only subject where that applies. :P

Wow, brb gonna pre-order WoR  ;D
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on November 02, 2017, 07:20:34 pm
Does this seem like a good deal? I've been hunting for a 144hz but I personally have no idea if they're worth it. I've heard some people say that once you go 144hz it's really hard adjusting back to 60hz. Just thought I'd ask my fellow NW friends, ha.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236722&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=IGNEFL110217C&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL110217C-_-EMC-110217-Latest-_-LCDLEDMonitors-_-24236722-S0M&ignorebbr=1 (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236722&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=IGNEFL110217C&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL110217C-_-EMC-110217-Latest-_-LCDLEDMonitors-_-24236722-S0M&ignorebbr=1)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on November 02, 2017, 09:50:24 pm
Is it possible to play NW on an iMac i7-4.2Ghz Radeon pro 580? This is a serious question tbh. I don't know if the game can be played on Macintosh or not.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on December 07, 2017, 09:40:44 pm
My board burned out and I reckon it's time to upgrade my CPU as well. Any recommendations that aren't Ryzen?

My other question is what happens with the OS? Does windows need to be rebought if I upgraded my windows 7 to 10 for free?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Sgt.Winters on December 08, 2017, 12:55:53 am
My board burned out and I reckon it's time to upgrade my CPU as well. Any recommendations that aren't Ryzen?

My other question is what happens with the OS? Does windows need to be rebought if I upgraded my windows 7 to 10 for free?
The core series are pretty good (i5 8400 and 8700 to be specific) if Intel is within price range.  Since you aren't looking for Ryzen the AMD options can get limited, but I would go for a TR4($$$$$) or a FX for its relatively cheap price.



I have no clue about the second question, but if I were to guess that unless you previously owned Windows Seven on your Microsoft account you would have to rebuy it.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: joer5835 on December 08, 2017, 01:25:40 am
My other question is what happens with the OS? Does windows need to be rebought if I upgraded my windows 7 to 10 for free?

No, but it requires you to have undertaken certain steps before you even upgraded. I am not sure if you can still boot your PC to undertake those steps, but I am gonna list them anyway. If you can't get your PC to run anymore to do this prep, then you're fucked.

Firstly, you need to make a bootable installation file for Windows 10. To do so, have Win 10 installed and then download a program called the Windows Media Creation Tool. Run the program and follow the steps to create a Win 10 installation file. Make sure to have a USB flash drive plugged in so the program can place the installation files on the usb drive. It's free, 100% legal and pretty easy to use. Should be plenty of guides on the interwebs too.

Secondly, write down your Windows license key. Now, there is good possibility that Windows automatically assigned you a new key when you upgraded, meaning your retail Win 7 key won't work. There are programs on the internet that can find and identify Windows product keys on your computer for you. Google it as I can't recall what tool I used.

Now, when you have your new PC all set up just boot from the flash drive, install Win 10 and activate your key once its done. Voila.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on December 08, 2017, 08:48:34 pm
Ahh, okay. Thanks for the help, joer and Winters.

Strangely enough, I'm actually leaning towards Ryzen now simply due to it being better at rendering and since I have a 1337 gaming channel with 230 subs. However, it seems as though intel is better on a single core level and that overall, aside from rendering, the intel is better in every way. It's really a shame that intel doesn't have an 8 core model to compete with Ryzen without paying space shuttle prices. Why is everything such a tough choice nowadays
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on December 08, 2017, 09:07:17 pm
You liked it when Intel had no competition and a decent cpu costed you 1k?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on December 08, 2017, 09:27:33 pm
You liked it when Intel had no competition and a decent cpu costed you 1k?
It's really a shame that intel doesn't have an 8 core model to compete with Ryzen without paying space shuttle prices.

On another note, it seems like the 8700k is not as good as the 1700X but AMD does tend to optimize their hardware so it's possible the gap could get further. I guess it really just depends if I want gaming performance or if I want to render more and spread out the workload onto more cores.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on December 11, 2017, 06:49:51 am
If you use your PC for both, get a 8700k.

In terms of Multi core performance 1700x and the 8700k are almost the same, but single core performance the 8700k leads by a wide margin. The 8700k is the leader in single core performance right now and will probably stay so for quite some while. Most of them can also be overclocked to a stable 5 up to 5.3gghz (I saw one with 5.5...) which is insane.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on December 11, 2017, 10:15:47 am
i9 any opinions
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Vincenzo on December 11, 2017, 03:33:06 pm
I have a i9, costed a fortune but its good. :P

Though probably i would have been equal happy with a threadripper from amd.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on December 25, 2017, 06:14:19 pm
I have a friend who wanted also to buy a Laptop because he wanted to play Skyrim and Oblivion. He always played it on PS3 and he also wanted to experience Skyrim with the good mods. He, just like me, doesn't know much about technical stuff about graphics and all that.

Do you guys have any recommendations for a good gaming laptop which can max Skyrim in ultra out with its high demanding graphical mods and all that?

Edit: Forgot to mention that the price doesnt matter.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on December 26, 2017, 10:15:22 am
Bump
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on December 26, 2017, 11:35:56 am
asus?

google? xd
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on December 26, 2017, 11:40:23 am
"No Budget"

Then what do you need us for, just buy any old beastly laptop with good reviews
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on December 26, 2017, 02:09:13 pm
Today the day reviews cannot be trusted anymore. Its all commercial and fake. Therefore Im asking it here on these forums.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: joer5835 on December 26, 2017, 03:11:53 pm
Today the day reviews cannot be trusted anymore. Its all commercial and fake. Therefore Im asking it here on these forums.

1. That's a bit of a generalization.
2. Reviewers often have a lot more experience in this stuff and have more stuff to compare to than most here.
3. There's always such a thing as user reviews, unless you think those are bought as well.

Anyway, the first question I always ask when I see the word 'gaming-laptop' is: do you really need it? Ask your friend that question first. Because unless he is planning on moving around a lot, switching places or he needs a portable workplace when he's not gaming, then there is no reason to get a laptop. PCs do everything a laptop does but better and cheaper. So he does absolutely -need- a laptop or is a PC just fine as well?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on December 26, 2017, 06:45:04 pm
Well he quite moves a lot to be honest. He didnt want a PC he told me. He wanted something comfortable as he Also studies at college and stuff
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: adamsimon on March 02, 2018, 06:53:47 pm
This is what I got:

Intel Core i5-7500
Asus Prime B250-Plus motherboard
Asus Geforce GTX 1060 6GB
16GB TeamGroup Vulcan
1TB Seagate HDD
240GB Sandisk SSD
Cooler Master Masterbox 5 house
500W - Corsair CX 500 80+ Bronze
Philips 24" 240V5QDAB/00 LED monitor
Cooler Master Storm Devastator II USB keyboard+mouse
Genius SW-G2.1 1250 speaker
Windows 10 Pro, 64 Bit, HU
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on April 11, 2018, 08:20:27 pm
Anyone here excited for Zen+? My computer died and I need to upgrade. It is tempting but at the same time Intel will always be better once they release their next set.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on April 12, 2018, 03:11:16 pm
I'd go for Intel again. Especially if you only game.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on April 12, 2018, 03:49:16 pm
No point in going for these high core count AMD cpu's if you don't do things like streaming. Even for video editing your GPU does most of the work there.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on April 12, 2018, 10:46:16 pm
Good advice. One other question: My computer is dead, but it does do this: when I turn it on the fans and computer turn on for about 2 seconds and then dies, and boots again in a never ending loop. Any idea what it could be and tips to fix?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on April 12, 2018, 10:49:36 pm
Good advice. One other question: My computer is dead, but it does do this: when I turn it on the fans and computer turn on for about 2 seconds and then dies, and boots again in a never ending loop. Any idea what it could be and tips to fix?
Check that the CPU and Motherboard power cables are in correctly. Thats what I usually check first when that happens at work (I used to be an engineer). If not reset your CMOS. Google how to do it.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on April 13, 2018, 12:55:20 am
Do you have the mini speaker on the motherboard? One should come with it. The sounds it makes are a post code which will let you identify what the problem is.
The only thing we know is that it's not the PSU as fans etc wouldn't turn at all.

Have you done anything to it recently (changed bits, moved it around, dropped it etc)?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on April 13, 2018, 09:42:01 pm
I was attempting to fix the windows update problem I had been having. It said my system reserved partition wasn't big enough. I checked it and it said it had a few megabytes of space left somehow (I suspect something, like malwarebytes, was using it as storage) and after that it wouldn't turn on. However, it is time to upgrade and so I guess this is as good as an excuse as any.

New Ryzen chips look okay. I'm too broke to buy one now but I hope Intel's answer comes soon.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on April 13, 2018, 09:51:30 pm
What do you think of NZXT building?

https://www.nzxt.com/bldnow

Looks like the best way to get a new PC atm, considering the overpriced separated parts on the market.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on April 13, 2018, 10:26:36 pm
What do you think of NZXT building?

https://www.nzxt.com/bldnow

Looks like the best way to get a new PC atm, considering the overpriced separated parts on the market.
That's not a bad site, but it is very expensive. I've been eyeing this prebuilt but sadly it's not an 8700k. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=9SIADYY6YP8228
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on April 21, 2018, 07:48:19 am
So finally after a long dilemma and waiting until parts came out Im ready for a Game PC. Olafson already put me in a good direction so thank you for that. However some parts were not available from the shop I wanted to order it from so I’ve made a custom list with some of the parts he recommended.

I dont have a max budget. I just want to max out games like total war, arma, battlefield etc, in 4k with minimal 60fps. I dont care about the costs so if you have any imagination, just go wild. Overkill is also good for me. Im not a fan of SLI though.

Here are the parts I have. If you think these are not good enough for the build I want then please feel free to correct them.

Its from a Dutch site but the parts are in English, if you might have any questions just ask. :)


https://m.imgur.com/K6zRxiu

Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on April 21, 2018, 09:51:59 am
What else do you want lol
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on April 21, 2018, 09:56:10 am
What else do you want lol
I just want to be sure I have something powerful and fast. I'm a total noob when it comes at pc building.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on April 21, 2018, 09:57:47 am
What else do you want lol
I just want to be sure I have something powerful and fast. I'm a total noob when it comes at pc building.

If price doesn't matter just buy things with the highest price mark and ull be fine
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on April 21, 2018, 10:22:50 am
The thing is I don't know which parts belong to which because on some motherboards you can't put some things that are not connected to it etc.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: BabyJesus on April 21, 2018, 10:23:45 am
that graphics card tho  :o
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on April 21, 2018, 10:41:40 am
Aye. I have seen a review and its nice.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on April 21, 2018, 01:41:53 pm
The thing is I don't know which parts belong to which because on some motherboards you can't put some things that are not connected to it etc.

ITS A FUCKING LEGO
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on April 21, 2018, 01:53:50 pm
This system should run fine.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on April 21, 2018, 02:48:48 pm
So if I build this then Im good to go for what I wanted? Cause then Im ready to pay it actually.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on April 21, 2018, 03:07:24 pm
Yes.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on April 21, 2018, 03:10:24 pm
Nice thanks. :)

Cheaper than I thought. Because i had another build and it costs me now just the half of it. Thanks for all the help olafson. :)

Just ordered all the parts. HYPE.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on April 23, 2018, 11:57:12 am
So I only still have to order a motherboard and these are my specs. Is the motherboard compatible with it all?

Graphics Card: Asus Geforce GTX 1080 TI RoG Strix 11G Gaming
Motherboard: Asus ROG Maximus X Hero
RAM: Corsair DDR4 Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3000 c15
Case: Fractal Design Define R6 Black Tempered Glass
CPU: Intel Core i7 8700K
Cooler: Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4
SSD: Samsung 960 EVO 1 TB
HDD: Western Digital-Blue WD20EZRZ 2TB
Power Supply: Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850W
Windows 10 Pro - 64 Bit Nederlandse versie
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Knightmare on April 23, 2018, 03:24:06 pm
donate naw
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on April 23, 2018, 07:19:13 pm
Against better judgement I got a 2700x build. It was a little over 1200 which is really insane for the workstation load I'll be putting on it and the components I got. I just wish I could have gotten a 1070 but the price jump from a 6GB 1060 to the 1070 is insane. I wanted the 8700k but I plan on using this a lot more for editing and rendering then I do for just games and it's just way more expensive to go the intel route.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: joer5835 on April 23, 2018, 08:49:20 pm
I personally would have adviced against buying a new build right at this moment unless you absolutely have to. According to some rumours, Nvidia will reveal and launch their new 1100 series this year. Even if you don't want an 1100 series, its release would push the prices of the 1000 series down.

Besides that, the cryptocurrency bubble is still going on. Will it pop? I dunno, but I don't need to upgrade my build right now which allows me to wait and see what happens. Who knows what might happen the next few months.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on April 23, 2018, 08:54:38 pm
I personally would have adviced against buying a new build right at this moment unless you absolutely have to. According to some rumours, Nvidia will reveal and launch their new 1100 series this year. Even if you don't want an 1100 series, its release would push the prices of the 1000 series down.

Besides that, the cryptocurrency bubble is still going on. Will it pop? I dunno, but I don't need to upgrade my build right now which allows me to wait and see what happens. Who knows what might happen the next few months.
The ultimate uncertainty there is why I just bit the bullet and got a 1060. I figured if the bubble does pop / 1100 series comes out, then I'll just grab a second 1060 and SLI it up for a cheap price.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on April 23, 2018, 08:59:32 pm
Correction: 1060 doesn't support SLI. rip
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: joer5835 on April 23, 2018, 11:28:44 pm
Nvidia is slowly dropping SLI support all across the board and very few games actually support it nowadays. You get far better performance with a single, strong card than two in SLI config.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Bauer16 on May 07, 2018, 07:07:08 pm
Good advice. One other question: My computer is dead, but it does do this: when I turn it on the fans and computer turn on for about 2 seconds and then dies, and boots again in a never ending loop. Any idea what it could be and tips to fix?
Sound like your power supply.  Had this happen on different computers.   Replaced the PSU and all was good.
Just read your later posts.  Enjoy your new system.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on May 07, 2018, 07:39:10 pm
Good advice. One other question: My computer is dead, but it does do this: when I turn it on the fans and computer turn on for about 2 seconds and then dies, and boots again in a never ending loop. Any idea what it could be and tips to fix?
Sound like your power supply.  Had this happen on different computers.   Replaced the PSU and all was good.
Just read your later posts.  Enjoy your new system.
Yeah, I decided it wasn't worth the trouble and my system has already aged dramatically, especially my GPU (Nvidia 770). There's no point in dishing out 300 for a 1060 just for the GPU to be bottlenecked by an older processor and the 2700x should age nicely as games and programs shift to multicore. Thanks for the advice though!

I feel the more Ryzen is being demo'd the more it's accentuating that Intel is just too lazy to try and actually fix their products to compete with Ryzen. I'd rather fuel the competition.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on May 07, 2018, 07:57:41 pm
Intel is bringing out more multi cored products that are better than the equivalent Ryzen's, but they are still more expensive so at the end of the day it comes down to what you will actually do with the CPU's.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on May 07, 2018, 08:05:36 pm
Intel is bringing out more multi cored products that are better than the equivalent Ryzen's, but they are still more expensive so at the end of the day it comes down to what you will actually do with the CPU's.
Pretty much. Intel will hold the single core performance while Ryzen will hold multicore. Either way with the 2700x coming with the Prism cooler and price difference I just find it better and easier to work with compared to the 8700k but everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
Title: PC Thread
Post by: Lone on June 17, 2018, 10:18:37 pm
As I am going to buy a new PC, I thought it could be helpful if people would have the opportunity to post their set ups (or what they want to buy etc.) on a thread, thus creating this. I hope we have some people with knowledge in this area (i only got the basic stuff you need to know) and are able to help others out.
Title: Re: PC Thread
Post by: Lone on June 17, 2018, 10:22:00 pm
My Set-Up I am going to buy is:

AMD Ryzen 5 2600x (8x3,6 GHz)
MSI Geforce Gtx 1060 6gb gaming x
MSI - X470 Gaming Plus
G. Skill Trident Z 2x8 gb
250 gb SSD
550 W power adapter
Fractal Design Focus G ATX mid tower

Any opinions on this? I am wondering if 550 W are enough and if I need an extra cooler. I hope you can help me
Title: Re: PC Thread
Post by: Nero_ on June 17, 2018, 10:22:17 pm
something something pentium 2
Title: Re: PC Thread
Post by: Norwegian13 on June 17, 2018, 10:41:12 pm
As I am going to buy a new PC, I thought it could be helpful if people would have the opportunity to post their set ups (or what they want to buy etc.) on a thread, thus creating this. I hope we have some people with knowledge in this area (i only got the basic stuff you need to know) and are able to help others out.

Merged your thread into the previously existing thread to keep it more clean in the sub-board.
Title: Re: PC Thread
Post by: Windflower on June 17, 2018, 10:47:13 pm
My Set-Up I am going to buy is:

AMD Ryzen 5 2600x (8x3,6 GHz)
MSI Geforce Gtx 1060 6gb gaming x
MSI - X470 Gaming Plus
G. Skill Trident Z 2x8 gb
250 gb SSD
550 W power adapter
Fractal Design Focus G ATX mid tower

Any opinions on this? I am wondering if 550 W are enough and if I need an extra cooler. I hope you can help me
idk if you have A cooler you shouldnt need an extra one. My last laptop didnt have one and toastered itself on overwatch so nvr again  :'(
Title: Re: PC Thread
Post by: Lone on June 18, 2018, 08:26:55 am
My Set-Up I am going to buy is:

AMD Ryzen 5 2600x (8x3,6 GHz)
MSI Geforce Gtx 1060 6gb gaming x
MSI - X470 Gaming Plus
G. Skill Trident Z 2x8 gb
250 gb SSD
550 W power adapter
Fractal Design Focus G ATX mid tower

Any opinions on this? I am wondering if 550 W are enough and if I need an extra cooler. I hope you can help me
idk if you have A cooler you shouldnt need an extra one. My last laptop didnt have one and toastered itself on overwatch so nvr again  :'(

Well the tower, Processor and Video card contain air coolers
Title: Re: PC Thread
Post by: Kore on June 18, 2018, 09:10:44 am
My Set-Up I am going to buy is:

AMD Ryzen 5 2600x (8x3,6 GHz)
MSI Geforce Gtx 1060 6gb gaming x
MSI - X470 Gaming Plus
G. Skill Trident Z 2x8 gb
250 gb SSD
550 W power adapter
Fractal Design Focus G ATX mid tower

Any opinions on this? I am wondering if 550 W are enough and if I need an extra cooler. I hope you can help me
idk if you have A cooler you shouldnt need an extra one. My last laptop didnt have one and toastered itself on overwatch so nvr again  :'(

Well the tower, Processor and Video card contain air coolers

well you want a good airflow

also why ryzen
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on June 18, 2018, 09:26:45 am
Ryzen 2600x is like €70 cheaper but more or less the same as an i5 8600, its not a bad choice.

Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on June 18, 2018, 09:29:27 am
Ryzen 2600x is like €70 cheaper but more or less the same as an i5 8600, its not a bad choice.

no, overPRICEd intels ftw
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Lone on June 18, 2018, 10:29:20 am
Intel is better for gaming ofc, but as I need performance for uni (engineering/mathematics programs) I´ve read that 2600x is the better way to go. As price said it´s more or less equal to a 8600k. I´m not sure if it´s worth to get an i7 or a better graphic card. That set up is said to be able to perform every actual game on high settings with good fps.. idk
Title: Re: PC Thread
Post by: Lone on June 18, 2018, 10:31:14 am
My Set-Up I am going to buy is:

AMD Ryzen 5 2600x (8x3,6 GHz)
MSI Geforce Gtx 1060 6gb gaming x
MSI - X470 Gaming Plus
G. Skill Trident Z 2x8 gb
250 gb SSD
550 W power adapter
Fractal Design Focus G ATX mid tower

Any opinions on this? I am wondering if 550 W are enough and if I need an extra cooler. I hope you can help me
idk if you have A cooler you shouldnt need an extra one. My last laptop didnt have one and toastered itself on overwatch so nvr again  :'(

Well the tower, Processor and Video card contain air coolers

well you want a good airflow

also why ryzen

so i should get another cooler?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on June 18, 2018, 10:41:37 am
Intel is better for gaming ofc, but as I need performance for uni (engineering/mathematics programs) I´ve read that 2600x is the better way to go. As price said it´s more or less equal to a 8600k. I´m not sure if it´s worth to get an i7 or a better graphic card. That set up is said to be able to perform every actual game on high settings with good fps.. idk
I was talking to Herishey about him buying his new PC, what you should really do is scrap the idea of getting a 1060 and just buy a 2nd hand 980Ti for the same ish Price.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ASUS-GEFORCE-GTX-980TI-STRIX-GAMING-GPU-GRAPHICS-CARD/223019600764?hash=item33ed010b7c:g:NN0AAOSwo5lbJBAI

Thats what I sent him, if you think about it, a 1060 will run new games on medium with maybe a few high settings depending on what you play, 980Ti runs every game at max settings 60fps on 1080p for a cheaper price. Yes its second hand but the 1100 series cards will be coming out at the end/early next year so the price of newer cards will drop.

Theres like 10 listings on Ebay in europe for like £200, when you consider I bought my 980 (Original, Ti is 15% faster) on release for £799, which still runs all games at max @1080 thats a fucking bargain.

So in reality, if you spend the £70 that you save from getting a 980Ti second hand over a 1060 which is shit, you can get a fantastic GFX card and an i7 8700k.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Herishey on June 18, 2018, 12:37:53 pm
This is what I'd decided on after speaking with El Chriseh (some parts aren't specific yet);

Case - Antec p110 luce
Motherboard - Asus ROG STRIX Z370-F GAMING 1151 DDR4 ATX Motherboard
Processor - Intel - 8700k i7
RAM - DIMM 16 GB DDR4-2800, memory x2
Graphics Card - Nvidia GTX 980ti
PSU - 650w Corsair
Hard Drive - 500GB SSD
Optical Drive - SATA Blueray ROM.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Lone on June 18, 2018, 03:06:22 pm
This is what I'd decided on after speaking with El Chriseh (some parts aren't specific yet);

Case - Antec p110 luce
Motherboard - Asus ROG STRIX Z370-F GAMING 1151 DDR4 ATX Motherboard
Processor - Intel - 8700k i7
RAM - DIMM 16 GB DDR4-2800, memory x2
Graphics Card - Nvidia GTX 980ti
PSU - 650w Corsair
Hard Drive - 500GB SSD
Optical Drive - SATA Blueray ROM. - £50

whats the overall costs?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Herishey on June 18, 2018, 03:15:02 pm
This is what I'd decided on after speaking with El Chriseh (some parts aren't specific yet);

Case - Antec p110 luce
Motherboard - Asus ROG STRIX Z370-F GAMING 1151 DDR4 ATX Motherboard
Processor - Intel - 8700k i7
RAM - DIMM 16 GB DDR4-2800, memory x2
Graphics Card - Nvidia GTX 980ti
PSU - 650w Corsair
Hard Drive - 500GB SSD
Optical Drive - SATA Blueray ROM. - £50

whats the overall costs?
Can't remember exactly but like £1000-1250 I imagine (building not pre-made).
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on June 18, 2018, 03:57:07 pm
I spent 2k on mine when that GFX card was new, to buy my PC now would cost like 700 feelsbadman, its only 3 and a bit years old
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Herishey on June 18, 2018, 04:15:54 pm
I think my calculations based on what we discussed was around £1350 but that's without taking into account some bundles I can get.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: McPero on June 18, 2018, 10:04:12 pm
I think my calculations based on what we discussed was around £1350 but that's without taking into account some bundles I can get.
I think that will be enough to run Warband on max graphics. Also the quiz games you play.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on June 18, 2018, 10:06:53 pm
Thats a hard oof right there @Herishey
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Herishey on June 18, 2018, 10:18:18 pm
I am partial to some quiz games.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: McPero on June 19, 2018, 06:40:48 pm
I am partial to some quiz games.
Me too I think those videos are the best.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on June 19, 2018, 06:47:44 pm
So do the other 10 people who watch them
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Herishey on June 19, 2018, 08:43:56 pm
So do the other 10 people who watch them
9 more than watch any of ur vids!
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on June 19, 2018, 08:45:43 pm
I'm quite sceptical of getting second hand GPU. Or are they selling them refurnished?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Lone on June 19, 2018, 08:49:24 pm
I'm quite sceptical of getting second hand GPU. Or are they selling them refurnished?

+1
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on June 19, 2018, 09:13:00 pm
I'm quite sceptical of getting second hand GPU. Or are they selling them refurnished?
As long as they werent used for Bitcoin mining there is no reason to be skeptical. Now, if it was a CPU thats a different story. Most people take a GPU as it is and stick it in their PC without doing any aftermarket changes. As most GPU's come with great coolers including the NVidia stock one, its the PC part that is the least prone to wear overtime due to like dust etc. if someone hasn't kept their PC well cooled. However something like a CPU and RAM can eventually have problems.

Not to mention even if you spend 200 on a 980Ti and it lasts you 2 years, thats worth it in my opinion. I bought my 680 second hand and it lasted me 2 and a half years.

Also refurbished means nothing. If a card is damaged internally then its damaged. Refurbishing would be to change the shroud, clean it etc. Like buying a refurbished Laptop, they would replace the keyboard, maybe the screen if need be then thats it.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on June 19, 2018, 09:14:10 pm
I'm quite sceptical of getting second hand GPU. Or are they selling them refurnished?

+1
1060 may be a slight decrease in graphics but it might be better in terms of longevity and optimization.

I'd recommend browsing here for GPU sales (and PC in general)
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: yecgga on June 19, 2018, 09:22:57 pm
This is my PC

GTX 1080
i7 7700k
3000Mhz 16 gb RAM
250 GB SSD
1 TB HDD
144hz Monitor
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: McPero on June 20, 2018, 06:12:41 pm
So do the other 10 people who watch them
At least they watch quality content not anime like u weebo.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Lone on July 04, 2018, 08:52:23 pm
Fractal Define R6 black - Glass mirror
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X (8x 3.7GHz / 4.3GHz Turbo)
Standard AMD/INTEL Box cooler
MSI X470 Gaming Pro
16GB DDR4 (2x8GB) G.Skill DDR4 3200MHz TridentZ RGB
250GB Crucial MX500 M.2 SATA-SSD (L 560MB/s ; S 510MB/s)
1000GB SATA 6GB/s 7200rpm
8GB MSI GTX1070Ti GAMING
500W BeQuiet PurePower 10

Any opinions?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Gurkha on July 29, 2018, 02:32:04 pm
How much does RAM speed matter for gaming?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AeroNinja on July 29, 2018, 02:40:38 pm
If it's pure for gaming I would suggest 16GB's of ram. If you want to record and that stuff and stream then I would recommend 32GB.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Dom13WorstNW on July 30, 2018, 08:37:04 pm
Im looking to get a new computer soon but Ive heard some people say that buying a pre built pc is now a better deal. Is it still better to buy parts individually or should I be looking for a pre built pc?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on July 30, 2018, 08:55:08 pm
Im looking to get a new computer soon but Ive heard some people say that buying a pre built pc is now a better deal. Is it still better to buy parts individually or should I be looking for a pre built pc?

11xx gen gpus are coming soon so I'd actually wait a little
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Wursti on July 30, 2018, 10:27:37 pm
my SSD got 200 GB RAM wym
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on July 31, 2018, 02:53:14 pm
How much does RAM speed matter for gaming?

Just go for the slightly lower mhz count. It really does not matter to much. Ram is crazy expensive anyway.

Im looking to get a new computer soon but Ive heard some people say that buying a pre built pc is now a better deal. Is it still better to buy parts individually or should I be looking for a pre built pc?


11xx gen gpus are coming soon so I'd actually wait a little


I wouldn't expect them before march next year though. That is still quite far away.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Amit_ on October 26, 2018, 08:28:39 pm
How much does RAM speed matter for gaming?

Next to nothing. The one game that I'm aware of that really benefits from faster RAM is Arma 3, and anyone who plays Arma games knows there's a lot of issues with those game engines. It's not worth breaking the bank for that one game unless it's basically your life like Arma celebrity Dslyecxi.

Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Sgt.Winters on October 26, 2018, 09:34:00 pm
How much does RAM speed matter for gaming?

Next to nothing. The one game that I'm aware of that really benefits from faster RAM is Arma 3, and anyone who plays Arma games knows there's a lot of issues with those game engines. It's not worth breaking the bank for that one game unless it's basically your life like Arma celebrity Dslyecxi.
It's so damn sad that their engine is poorly optimized.  That being said, Arma is one of the few games I can tolerate playing at 15-30 frames in demanding situations.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on October 26, 2018, 11:59:21 pm
How much does RAM speed matter for gaming?

Next to nothing. The one game that I'm aware of that really benefits from faster RAM is Arma 3, and anyone who plays Arma games knows there's a lot of issues with those game engines. It's not worth breaking the bank for that one game unless it's basically your life like Arma celebrity Dslyecxi.
It's so damn sad that their engine is poorly optimized.  That being said, Arma is one of the few games I can tolerate playing at 15-30 frames in demanding situations.

yeah, it's usually so slow paced that it doesn't even matter =D
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: BabyJesus on November 23, 2018, 04:27:25 pm
I made an impulse decision and bought a $2000 computer last night. It’s like double the size of my old desktop

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=401&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Yyenu_q3gIVHLbACh3wqQCeEAQYASABEgJXKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds (https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=401&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Yyenu_q3gIVHLbACh3wqQCeEAQYASABEgJXKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Shadey on November 26, 2018, 11:42:40 pm
I made an impulse decision and bought a $2000 computer last night. It’s like double the size of my old desktop

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=401&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Yyenu_q3gIVHLbACh3wqQCeEAQYASABEgJXKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds (https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=401&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Yyenu_q3gIVHLbACh3wqQCeEAQYASABEgJXKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)

hunny you got scammed

ps: rtx cards arent worth it. yet
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: BabyJesus on November 26, 2018, 11:50:27 pm
I made an impulse decision and bought a $2000 computer last night. It’s like double the size of my old desktop

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=401&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Yyenu_q3gIVHLbACh3wqQCeEAQYASABEgJXKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds (https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=401&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Yyenu_q3gIVHLbACh3wqQCeEAQYASABEgJXKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)

hunny you got scammed

ps: rtx cards arent worth it. yet
probably but meh. I’m still enjoying it.

The computer actually went on sale the next day. So that’s pretty cool
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Shadey on November 27, 2018, 03:44:43 am
I made an impulse decision and bought a $2000 computer last night. It’s like double the size of my old desktop

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=401&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Yyenu_q3gIVHLbACh3wqQCeEAQYASABEgJXKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds (https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=401&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Yyenu_q3gIVHLbACh3wqQCeEAQYASABEgJXKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)

hunny you got scammed

ps: rtx cards arent worth it. yet
probably but meh. I’m still enjoying it.

The computer actually went on sale the next day. So that’s pretty cool

Show me dem bf5 reflections boi
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on November 27, 2018, 03:52:35 am
I made an impulse decision and bought a $2000 computer last night. It’s like double the size of my old desktop

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=401&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Yyenu_q3gIVHLbACh3wqQCeEAQYASABEgJXKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds (https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=401&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Yyenu_q3gIVHLbACh3wqQCeEAQYASABEgJXKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)

hunny you got scammed

ps: rtx cards arent worth it. yet
probably but meh. I’m still enjoying it.

The computer actually went on sale the next day. So that’s pretty cool

Show me dem bf5 reflections boi

He can show you in a presentation XDXD
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on November 27, 2018, 08:55:05 pm
I made an impulse decision and bought a $2000 computer last night. It’s like double the size of my old desktop

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=401&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Yyenu_q3gIVHLbACh3wqQCeEAQYASABEgJXKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds (https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=401&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Yyenu_q3gIVHLbACh3wqQCeEAQYASABEgJXKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)
It's not a bad PC, but for that price you got scammed. Only 16GB memory, no HDD, and an 8700k and not Intel's new line of chip. You would have been better off building off a prebuilt site.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: BabyJesus on November 27, 2018, 09:05:21 pm
I made an impulse decision and bought a $2000 computer last night. It’s like double the size of my old desktop

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=401&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Yyenu_q3gIVHLbACh3wqQCeEAQYASABEgJXKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds (https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=401&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Yyenu_q3gIVHLbACh3wqQCeEAQYASABEgJXKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)
It's not a bad PC, but for that price you got scammed. Only 16GB memory, no HDD, and an 8700k and not Intel's new line of chip. You would have been better off building off a prebuilt site.
butthen I wouldn’t be able to walk into best buy and tell them to give me their best computer
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on November 27, 2018, 09:06:38 pm
I made an impulse decision and bought a $2000 computer last night. It’s like double the size of my old desktop

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=401&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Yyenu_q3gIVHLbACh3wqQCeEAQYASABEgJXKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds (https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=401&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Yyenu_q3gIVHLbACh3wqQCeEAQYASABEgJXKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)
It's not a bad PC, but for that price you got scammed. Only 16GB memory, no HDD, and an 8700k and not Intel's new line of chip. You would have been better off building off a prebuilt site.
butthen I wouldn’t be able to walk into best buy and tell them to give me their best computer
Weird flex but okay
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: BabyJesus on November 29, 2018, 12:58:26 am
I made an impulse decision and bought a $2000 computer last night. It’s like double the size of my old desktop

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=401&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Yyenu_q3gIVHLbACh3wqQCeEAQYASABEgJXKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds (https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=401&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Yyenu_q3gIVHLbACh3wqQCeEAQYASABEgJXKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)
It's not a bad PC, but for that price you got scammed. Only 16GB memory, no HDD, and an 8700k and not Intel's new line of chip. You would have been better off building off a prebuilt site.
butthen I wouldn’t be able to walk into best buy and tell them to give me their best computer
Weird flex but okay
more of a meme than a flex

How much would you pay for it?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on November 29, 2018, 08:42:26 pm
I made an impulse decision and bought a $2000 computer last night. It’s like double the size of my old desktop

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=401&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Yyenu_q3gIVHLbACh3wqQCeEAQYASABEgJXKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds (https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=401&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Yyenu_q3gIVHLbACh3wqQCeEAQYASABEgJXKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)
It's not a bad PC, but for that price you got scammed. Only 16GB memory, no HDD, and an 8700k and not Intel's new line of chip. You would have been better off building off a prebuilt site.
butthen I wouldn’t be able to walk into best buy and tell them to give me their best computer
Weird flex but okay
more of a meme than a flex

How much would you pay for it?
Well if you go to ibuypower's website this is their front computer and it's both cheaper and better than yours with a better CPU and RAM. Perhaps a smaller SSD but you can always upgrade that.
https://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Cyber-Monday-Intel-Z390-i7-Gaming-Ultra

Edit: I would have paid 1300-1400 for that computer since it's only an 8700k.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on December 04, 2018, 07:50:09 am
Thinking about building with these parts. What do you guys think?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x4Jy7W
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on December 04, 2018, 09:24:14 am
Thinking about building with these parts. What do you guys think?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x4Jy7W
I always tell people not to buy Graphics cards like that Marceaux.

If you take a look at refurbished or second hand 980 ti for 200 to 250 dollars these days which will give you more performance than a GTX 1080 which is still a $600 card.

I recently replaced my one GTX 980 for 2 980 TI's in SLI. Don't worry about them being second hand, as long as the card hasn't been mining for 5 years, graphics cards always tend to be the longest standing component of a build most of the time.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on December 04, 2018, 10:45:22 am
Thinking about building with these parts. What do you guys think?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x4Jy7W
I always tell people not to buy Graphics cards like that Marceaux.

If you take a look at refurbished or second hand 980 ti for 200 to 250 dollars these days which will give you more performance than a GTX 1080 which is still a $600 card.

I recently replaced my one GTX 980 for 2 080 TI's in SLI. Don't worry about them being second hand, as long as the card hasn't been mining for 5 years, graphics cards always tend to be the longest standing component of a build most of the time.

080 Ti is my favourite card
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on December 04, 2018, 12:31:07 pm
Fuck you, phone typing.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on December 04, 2018, 12:57:09 pm
Fuck you, phone typing.

=DDDD
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on December 04, 2018, 05:03:12 pm
Thinking about building with these parts. What do you guys think?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x4Jy7W
I always tell people not to buy Graphics cards like that Marceaux.

If you take a look at refurbished or second hand 980 ti for 200 to 250 dollars these days which will give you more performance than a GTX 1080 which is still a $600 card.

I recently replaced my one GTX 980 for 2 980 TI's in SLI. Don't worry about them being second hand, as long as the card hasn't been mining for 5 years, graphics cards always tend to be the longest standing component of a build most of the time.

Whats wrong with the RX cards? (Genuine question as i know very little about gpx cards.)

How does the 980 compare to this card? I figured NVIDIA cards were better but not sure how much for the price? People were saying the rx570 has pretty good performance and i figured a 4gb card would be enough for awhile until i can afford a BIG card. I mainly picked this card because i wanted to keep the build pure with AMD/ASUS-ROG-STRIX/Corsair parts only for pretty much everything. But if the rx 560-580 cards are junk then maybe i will pass. Graphics cards are the only thing i haven't put much research into yet.

And keep in mind i plan to acquire these parts slowly over a few months.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on December 04, 2018, 07:19:18 pm
RX cards are for budget pc's. The GTX 1050TI which I put in my brothers pc only runs games at about 30-40 fps on Medium. Which is around the same price point as that card.

Whereas my GTX980TI runs games on Max at 60fps at 1080p. I turn Anti Aliasing down as I have a 1440p monitor then I still get 60fps even then.

So yeah, for about a 60-70% better card you pay the same price. Only issue being it would be second hand but graphics cards last a lifetime anyway.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: ~Midnight~ on December 04, 2018, 07:24:17 pm
RX cards are for budget pc's. The GTX 1050TI which I put in my brothers pc only runs games at about 30-40 fps on Medium. Which is around the same price point as that card.

Whereas my GTX980TI runs games on Max at 60fps at 1080p. I turn Anti Aliasing down as I have a 1440p monitor then I still get 60fps even then.

So yeah, for about a 60-70% better card you pay the same price. Only issue being it would be second hand but graphics cards last a lifetime anyway.

Help me build a PC dad.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on December 04, 2018, 07:25:48 pm
I actually had this same convo with Herishey a few months back. Not sure if he bought it in the end but he was going to buy a GTX 1060 but I talked him out of buying that junk card.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on December 06, 2018, 08:17:06 pm
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814126231

Well I'll be damned
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Sgt.Winters on December 06, 2018, 09:13:37 pm
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814126231

Well I'll be damned
But can it run Crysis 3 at 60 frames, 16:9 aspect ration, and a shitty 2007 1080i monitor I picked up from Microsoft during Cyber Monday?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on December 16, 2018, 08:06:35 pm
Quick question: I kind of want to get a cheap second graphics card so I can run my monitors independently; What's a good, yet cheap GPU for that purpose?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on December 21, 2018, 07:57:28 pm
So i have changed up my build ALOT, going for ultimate budget banger so i can buy it all at once instead of over time. This will be my first build EVER but keep in mind i have taken some entry level A+ CompTIA courses in school and have watched ALOT of videos on components and builds/building etc in these last few weeks as well as spent tons of time on pcpartpicker doing different possible builds.

But how hard do you guys think it will be for me to build it properly and working on the 1st try? My biggest concern is getting windows 10 on it properly and making sure all drivers are working correctly. I am also in doubts as to where exactly to plug everything in. Although i will be watching and reading some more specific detailed tutorials soon i would like as many suggestions and help as possible.

This build is meant to be up to date (late 2017/2018 components/parts) on everything and using high quality but also budget oriented parts.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qRLmHh

I do plan to add a 120mm AIO water cooler for overclocking at a later point.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on December 21, 2018, 09:53:15 pm
8GB of RAM is just not enough imho. Also dw, building a PC is literally as easy as building a lego house.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on December 21, 2018, 10:08:45 pm
8GB of RAM is just not enough imho. Also dw, building a PC is literally as easy as building a lego house.
^. Although there are sometimes cheap prebuilts but generally their internals are lesser known or cruddy brands. Generally you either want to build it for less or buy it from a custom PC vendor and pay extra.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on December 21, 2018, 10:31:44 pm
8GB of RAM is just not enough imho. Also dw, building a PC is literally as easy as building a lego house.
^. Although there are sometimes cheap prebuilts but generally their internals are lesser known or cruddy brands. Generally you either want to build it for less or buy it from a custom PC vendor and pay extra.

Trust me i know 8gb is not enough overall but its certainly enough to get started. It will be my first priority to add 2 more 4gb sticks to get up to 16gb total after the initial build. 16gb kits are just to pricey upfront rn for my budget. I am getting all of these parts next week except the GPU because i am still trying to find one for cheaper or on a sale somewhere. But until then ill just run Vega 8 graphics for a week or 2.

And i have looked at tons of prebuilds recently and there is just NOWAY to get the quality of components as cheap as you can build it yourself. The system i am building would easily run 800-1000$ prebuilt and i am getting everything for just under $600. I am really excited to build it just nervous lol, do not wanna fuck anything up or put it all together and it not power on lol...
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on December 25, 2018, 10:02:44 pm
Anyone have experience using Ebay to buy used or open box GPU's? They are way better priced and according to some research i have done they are actually pretty safe to buy apparently. I found an Sapphire rx580 8gb card for $100 which is an amazing price.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on December 25, 2018, 10:04:53 pm
I did it a couple of times and never had issues. But you need to watch out, because there are scammers around. Usually they take posession of another account. If they only offer payment outside of ebay (manual bank transfer for example) do not buy it from them. Any transfers on ebay are safe, buyer protection will get you your money back if you get scammed.

Ebay is great. I managed to get a 2080ti for 300 euro less. It works just fine and was delivered just as fast as ordering it from Amazon for example.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on December 25, 2018, 11:35:02 pm
I did it a couple of times and never had issues. But you need to watch out, because there are scammers around. Usually they take posession of another account. If they only offer payment outside of ebay (manual bank transfer for example) do not buy it from them. Any transfers on ebay are safe, buyer protection will get you your money back if you get scammed.

Ebay is great. I managed to get a 2080ti for 300 euro less. It works just fine and was delivered just as fast as ordering it from Amazon for example.

Ok awesome i am very glad someone has personal experience with this and still thinks its safe! Ill definitely be buying my GPU from Ebay then, the prices are just unbeatable. Thanks for the response Olaf!

Should have my build completed within 1-2 weeks depending on shipping. Will be posting pictures and possibly a video then! ;D
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on December 26, 2018, 12:59:35 am
Yeah just like I said before as long as you are careful with who you are buying from (rule of thumb to stay away from mining GPU's as they tend to be poorly kept) then the value difference is just way too good to pass up.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on December 30, 2018, 02:54:48 am
Got everything and finished the build today! Was easier then i expected. Everything went fine on the first try. This case was amazing to build in. So streamlined and easy cable management. Overall could not be happier! ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/mY2eMW6.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ch09F5Q.jpg)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on December 30, 2018, 05:01:14 am
What GPU did you go with?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on December 30, 2018, 06:13:16 am
I haven't gotten one yet going to be getting one from ebay on wednesday. Likely going for a Sapphire rx580 8gb special edition. Pretty sure ill be able to get one for about $150 with a little luck.

I will say for now though i am very impressed with the Vega 8 graphics. I turned the vram up to 2gb and it basically performs like a GT 1030. Like i am getting 150-250 fps at all times in csgo. And mass effect andromeda is giving me about 40+ or so fps with medium-high settings and it looks GREAT. I also overclocked my ram to 2933mhz and Ryzen absolutely lllllllllloooooovvvvvvveeeeeeesssssss it!

Also found some cheap but nice looking rgb fans i am going to add this week to brighten up the inside and add some more airflow.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DRBK74V/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A35YSX3GLRRA77&psc=1
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on January 04, 2019, 09:37:14 pm
Added the fans and an ADATA SU800 512gb ssd for more storage. These fans look amazing and have so many modes. Cant believe they are only $30. They also move a ton of air! :o Also went ahead and oc'd my ram to 3200 mhz. :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcU0COMHoEk
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on January 04, 2019, 10:46:20 pm
Why not wait until you put a graphics card in it you pleb
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Nero_ on January 04, 2019, 11:04:47 pm
so uhhh why is everything on the floor, do you like lay down whilst you play???
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on January 04, 2019, 11:14:57 pm
Why not wait until you put a graphics card in it you pleb

Waiting to get one for the right price and figure since i have an apu i might as well utilize it a little bit before i get the gpu. Plus i want to be done with all this cheap small stuff so that when i add the GPU it will all be done and will be the cherry on top. :P


so uhhh why is everything on the floor, do you like lay down whilst you play???

I just moved my mouse/keyboard and stuff down for the video/pictures. The pc is on the floor all the time however, at least until i get a bigger desk.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on January 23, 2019, 12:13:57 am
8GB of RAM is just not enough imho. Also dw, building a PC is literally as easy as building a lego house.
^. Although there are sometimes cheap prebuilts but generally their internals are lesser known or cruddy brands. Generally you either want to build it for less or buy it from a custom PC vendor and pay extra.

Trust me i know 8gb is not enough overall but its certainly enough to get started. It will be my first priority to add 2 more 4gb sticks to get up to 16gb total after the initial build. 16gb kits are just to pricey upfront rn for my budget. I am getting all of these parts next week except the GPU because i am still trying to find one for cheaper or on a sale somewhere. But until then ill just run Vega 8 graphics for a week or 2.

And i have looked at tons of prebuilds recently and there is just NOWAY to get the quality of components as cheap as you can build it yourself. The system i am building would easily run 800-1000$ prebuilt and i am getting everything for just under $600. I am really excited to build it just nervous lol, do not wanna fuck anything up or put it all together and it not power on lol...
Tbh 8GB is enough for most current games. With the whole price gouging thing still working its way through the market, I'd only buy 8GB for the moment then get more later if you're building a new system.
If you've got a Ryzen system 8GB of high speed will get you the better performance than 16GB of crap stuff. There are comparisons on Youtube of different RAM setups which I found super helpful.
Obviously if you're doing video editing etc you need a boat load, but for gaming specifically you get very little performance increase from 16GB over 8GB. Better to spend the extra money on a better GPU.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on January 23, 2019, 02:50:28 am
For sure Tiki! I already upgraded to 16gb total 4 x 4gb sticks. Stock speed is 2666mhz. I had the 2 sticks overclocked to 3200mhz but after adding 2 more sticks 3200 wasn't stable and i went back down to the stock speed of 2666mhz and i get better timings plus its not a huge difference from 3000-3200mhz in terms of performance. Also after i added more ram and some bios updates i have the Vega 8 igpu using 3gb dedicated vram. So its performing really good considering. Also after upgrading to 16gb total ram my entire system was running even smoother and now the system has plenty of breathing room and i haven't encountered any errors, but when i was on just 8gb some games were running terrible like Battlefront 2 for example after upgrading to 16gb however it started running great. ;D Here is my current build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LymQvn

Still waiting on a GPU but ive got my sights set on a Sapphire RX580 8gb card. :D Should be able to get one on ebay for around $150. But ide like to get the special edition so might cost a little more depending. Also recently did a 10% oc on cpu and its running cool at 3.8ghz ;D
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on January 23, 2019, 03:07:24 am
Also as far as temps go, after my oc the temps constantly fluctuate between 28c-46c with the average being about 35c-40c while idle/web browsing or basic application use. Is it normal to change so much even while idle? Also the max temp i have hit is 74c while playing some heavier games. Is that good/safe?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on January 23, 2019, 03:37:01 am
Anyone here upgraded to the Nvidia 2000 series?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on January 23, 2019, 05:14:24 am
Anyone here upgraded to the Nvidia 2000 series?

Talking about the RTX cards?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on January 23, 2019, 06:07:22 am
Also as far as temps go, after my oc the temps constantly fluctuate between 28c-46c with the average being about 35c-40c while idle/web browsing or basic application use. Is it normal to change so much even while idle? Also the max temp i have hit is 74c while playing some heavier games. Is that good/safe?

74c is good
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on January 23, 2019, 07:31:43 am
Also as far as temps go, after my oc the temps constantly fluctuate between 28c-46c with the average being about 35c-40c while idle/web browsing or basic application use. Is it normal to change so much even while idle? Also the max temp i have hit is 74c while playing some heavier games. Is that good/safe?

74c is good

Ok ty :)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Yete111 on January 24, 2019, 04:37:38 pm
Go big or go home
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on January 27, 2019, 12:32:52 am
#ShamelessFlex

New Build I am about to hit buy, just checking the last few pieces, checking anymore fittings I need etc.
(https://i.gyazo.com/8d782007c3383146cdd1b3245a4a468b.png)
[close]

Will be my 2nd watercooled build. First one I had to redo the loop... twice but it was a learning curve.

Stuck with Thermaltake as they have some pretty good build kits and just tend to be reliable in general. Fans etc. I will be buying from a seperate website as I need static pressure ones with White LED's or RGB that doesn't cost £60+ from SCAN.

I am also about to grab some white PSU and SATA cables from CableMod (they finally have an EU store) which I will post lata.

So excited. Yet this is going to take me at least a whole day to build as I am still not used to watercooling yet. Its just nice to know as you grow older and moving further ahead at your job etc. you can afford to do crazy things like this.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on January 27, 2019, 01:36:35 am
#ShamelessFlex

New Build I am about to hit buy, just checking the last few pieces, checking anymore fittings I need etc.
(https://i.gyazo.com/8d782007c3383146cdd1b3245a4a468b.png)
[close]

Will be my 2nd watercooled build. First one I had to redo the loop... twice but it was a learning curve.

Stuck with Thermaltake as they have some pretty good build kits and just tend to be reliable in general. Fans etc. I will be buying from a seperate website as I need static pressure ones with White LED's or RGB that doesn't cost £60+ from SCAN.

I am also about to grab some white PSU and SATA cables from CableMod (they finally have an EU store) which I will post lata.

So excited. Yet this is going to take me at least a whole day to build as I am still not used to watercooling yet. Its just nice to know as you grow older and moving further ahead at your job etc. you can afford to do crazy things like this.

all this needs is a vr kit  8)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on January 27, 2019, 01:43:52 am
Yeah so you can obviously buy a PCI Wireless Adapter for the Vive but tbh I wouldn't use it much if even at all as the space in my "den" isn't big enough for it.

So I have just left it at that.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Shadey on January 27, 2019, 03:12:55 am
#ShamelessFlex

New Build I am about to hit buy, just checking the last few pieces, checking anymore fittings I need etc.
(https://i.gyazo.com/8d782007c3383146cdd1b3245a4a468b.png)
[close]

Will be my 2nd watercooled build. First one I had to redo the loop... twice but it was a learning curve.

Stuck with Thermaltake as they have some pretty good build kits and just tend to be reliable in general. Fans etc. I will be buying from a seperate website as I need static pressure ones with White LED's or RGB that doesn't cost £60+ from SCAN.

I am also about to grab some white PSU and SATA cables from CableMod (they finally have an EU store) which I will post lata.

So excited. Yet this is going to take me at least a whole day to build as I am still not used to watercooling yet. Its just nice to know as you grow older and moving further ahead at your job etc. you can afford to do crazy things like this.

SCAN, more like SCAM

Nice build though, you'll definitely get 144 fps on NW!
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: ~Midnight~ on January 27, 2019, 04:19:42 am
#ShamelessFlex

New Build I am about to hit buy, just checking the last few pieces, checking anymore fittings I need etc.
(https://i.gyazo.com/8d782007c3383146cdd1b3245a4a468b.png)
[close]

Will be my 2nd watercooled build. First one I had to redo the loop... twice but it was a learning curve.

Stuck with Thermaltake as they have some pretty good build kits and just tend to be reliable in general. Fans etc. I will be buying from a seperate website as I need static pressure ones with White LED's or RGB that doesn't cost £60+ from SCAN.

I am also about to grab some white PSU and SATA cables from CableMod (they finally have an EU store) which I will post lata.

So excited. Yet this is going to take me at least a whole day to build as I am still not used to watercooling yet. Its just nice to know as you grow older and moving further ahead at your job etc. you can afford to do crazy things like this.

SCAN, more like SCAM

Nice build though, you'll definitely get 144 fps on NW!
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on January 27, 2019, 04:28:51 am
Absolutely sick build. Although i would of personally have gone for Threadripper over 9900k, regardless still a monster. And the white theme will look sick. Also what GPU and case fans are you using? Also love the 1tb 970 evo its god tier.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Sanders on January 27, 2019, 04:59:09 am
Look at that waste of money
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MATT123456789 on January 27, 2019, 05:40:15 am
Look at that waste of money

lol brutal sanders
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on January 27, 2019, 03:24:31 pm
SCAN, more like SCAM

Nice build though, you'll definitely get 144 fps on NW!
Implying I play NW ::)

I always buy from SCAN. Not always the best prices, you can find better deals elsewhere but their customer support is always the best.

Absolutely sick build. Although i would of personally have gone for Threadripper over 9900k, regardless still a monster. And the white theme will look sick. Also what GPU and case fans are you using? Also love the 1tb 970 evo its god tier.
GPU is on the list, second from the bottom. I always buy the top end cards and just keep them for around 5 or more years. So I bought my 980 when it was brand new in December 2014, so 4+ years is a good investment for it. Should get longer out of the 2080ti. I also want to upgrade to 1440p gaming so.

Threadripper isn't optimised for gaming, it would be a complete waste of money. Also if you go look at the performance comparison for the Ryzen 7 2700x (Not threadripper but 8 cores, 16 threads), they have the same core count, but the 9900k always comes ahead in games that use multi-core support. Quality over quantity. Remember its not always about core count etc.. Do your research into what you will use it for then compare between products. Threadripper would be useless for anything that is not a workstation use (compared to something of the same pricepoint that intel sells)

I would like to restart the Stream at some point, so I will recycle my i7-4790k and use it to stream over NDI and maybe replace it with a Ryzen later.

Here's a good example, one of many I looked at:
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzIGD9qJsaQ
[close]

Case fans, the View 71 comes with 3 White LED fans which will be enough. However, I haven't actually decided what fans to use for the Radiator, as you need Static Pressure Fans not Airflow fans (otherwise the air dicipates before it passes through the fins of the radiator)

Look at that waste of money

lol brutal sanders
Pointing out I have too much money isn't brutal ;)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on January 27, 2019, 03:56:16 pm
I've decided on 6 of these fans now for the radiator:

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/corsair-ml140-pro-led-white-140mm-premium-magnetic-levitation-fan-fg-058-cs.html

Maglev fans do both airflow and static pressure. I only need 3 technically but I am tempted to do a pull-push config on the radiator to maximize the potential
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on January 27, 2019, 07:28:53 pm
I've decided on 6 of these fans now for the radiator:

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/corsair-ml140-pro-led-white-140mm-premium-magnetic-levitation-fan-fg-058-cs.html

Maglev fans do both airflow and static pressure. I only need 3 technically but I am tempted to do a pull-push config on the radiator to maximize the potential

I like the 9900k i am just a Ryzen fanboy now plus i personally feel Threadripper is more future proof and also has more potential overall. Also push/pull would be sick, please do it!

And 2080ti is crazy idk how i missed that at first lol. Awesome build.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on January 27, 2019, 08:12:28 pm
#ShamelessFlex

New Build I am about to hit buy, just checking the last few pieces, checking anymore fittings I need etc.
(https://i.gyazo.com/8d782007c3383146cdd1b3245a4a468b.png)
[close]

Will be my 2nd watercooled build. First one I had to redo the loop... twice but it was a learning curve.

Stuck with Thermaltake as they have some pretty good build kits and just tend to be reliable in general. Fans etc. I will be buying from a seperate website as I need static pressure ones with White LED's or RGB that doesn't cost £60+ from SCAN.

I am also about to grab some white PSU and SATA cables from CableMod (they finally have an EU store) which I will post lata.

So excited. Yet this is going to take me at least a whole day to build as I am still not used to watercooling yet. Its just nice to know as you grow older and moving further ahead at your job etc. you can afford to do crazy things like this.

all this needs is a vr kit  8)

VIVE Cosmos comes out soon!!! I NEED.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on January 27, 2019, 08:57:22 pm
Its nothing to do with future proof tbh, its just literally that Threadripper is just useless in a gaming build :P
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on January 28, 2019, 09:40:35 pm
@John Price
Tbh I'd get a cheap AM4 processor for now and wait for Zen 2. 9900k is atrocious value (But yeah Threadripper makes no sense for gaming). The watercooling at least solves the thermal problems with the chip to some degree.
Also from the "ethical" point of view buying 9th gen Intel just encourages them and justifies their pricing, even if you have enough money for it.
GL with it though, never had the money or balls to do custom watercooling myself.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on January 29, 2019, 02:54:59 am
Me neither, but I bought Warranty for all the parts so even if I break it on instalation they will replace it (Part of Scan's Guaruntee, hence why I always use them lel)

I agree with you for the Zen 2 Part, however to be honest with you I am just not that bothered I guess. I set my sights on the i9 and unless something really screams at me I'm not gonna bother.

Also I put a Ryzen 1800x in my Brothers PC and had a ton of teething issues (was expected as it was still new-ish) so I just said fuck it. But you are right its not great bang for buck at the moment.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Steinmann on January 29, 2019, 04:19:07 am
#50FpsSquad
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on January 29, 2019, 05:43:52 pm
I cant wait for Zen2!!! So happy that the new cpus will work on am4 boards still so i wont need to upgrade mobo for it! I plan to use my 2200G for a super budget build once i upgrade to the newest and best zen2 cpu when they release in a few months. :D
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on January 29, 2019, 05:55:25 pm
I did consider this, but I I am also extremely impatient........

Sue me :D
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on January 29, 2019, 08:16:57 pm
Well when the proletariat and I rise up, I know exactly who we're hitting first  ::)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on January 29, 2019, 09:20:44 pm
I did consider this, but I I am also extremely impatient........

Sue me :D

np, buy the i9 now

then buy the zen2 and give me the i9 for free
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Wastee on February 03, 2019, 01:18:30 am
I'm looking for a pre-built gaming pc right now, budget is about 2000 USD. Any suggestions? I've always used laptops so I don't know anything on the subject.

I don't care what it looks like I'm just looking for power really

Is this one gonna be a bust? https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Trace-9220-Overclockable-Motherboard/dp/B07G77QHV8/ref=pd_bxgy_147_img_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07G77QHV8&pd_rd_r=bc6aea81-2749-11e9-ad19-fb6cb727d522&pd_rd_w=67bzm&pd_rd_wg=94iYL&pf_rd_p=6725dbd6-9917-451d-beba-16af7874e407&pf_rd_r=GWDP48VAJHG0MRCRZF54&refRID=GWDP48VAJHG0MRCRZF54&th=1
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on February 03, 2019, 06:51:59 am
I'm looking for a pre-built gaming pc right now, budget is about 2000 USD. Any suggestions? I've always used laptops so I don't know anything on the subject.

I don't care what it looks like I'm just looking for power really

Is this one gonna be a bust? https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Trace-9220-Overclockable-Motherboard/dp/B07G77QHV8/ref=pd_bxgy_147_img_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07G77QHV8&pd_rd_r=bc6aea81-2749-11e9-ad19-fb6cb727d522&pd_rd_w=67bzm&pd_rd_wg=94iYL&pf_rd_p=6725dbd6-9917-451d-beba-16af7874e407&pf_rd_r=GWDP48VAJHG0MRCRZF54&refRID=GWDP48VAJHG0MRCRZF54&th=1

Build your own. With a 2000 budget you could build a WAY better system then that.

Here is an example i put together:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QFtd29

I was going to buy a pre-built and decided to build my own recently and i could not be happier.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Wastee on February 03, 2019, 12:19:16 pm
I'm looking for a pre-built gaming pc right now, budget is about 2000 USD. Any suggestions? I've always used laptops so I don't know anything on the subject.

I don't care what it looks like I'm just looking for power really

Is this one gonna be a bust? https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Trace-9220-Overclockable-Motherboard/dp/B07G77QHV8/ref=pd_bxgy_147_img_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07G77QHV8&pd_rd_r=bc6aea81-2749-11e9-ad19-fb6cb727d522&pd_rd_w=67bzm&pd_rd_wg=94iYL&pf_rd_p=6725dbd6-9917-451d-beba-16af7874e407&pf_rd_r=GWDP48VAJHG0MRCRZF54&refRID=GWDP48VAJHG0MRCRZF54&th=1

Build your own. With a 2000 budget you could build a WAY better system then that.

Here is an example i put together:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QFtd29

I was going to buy a pre-built and decided to build my own recently and i could not be happier.
I get that whole thing but I literally don't have any clue how to do anything like that with a PC
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Nero_ on February 03, 2019, 12:49:41 pm
Your local pc store does for $40
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on February 03, 2019, 04:18:56 pm
I'm looking for a pre-built gaming pc right now, budget is about 2000 USD. Any suggestions? I've always used laptops so I don't know anything on the subject.

I don't care what it looks like I'm just looking for power really

Is this one gonna be a bust? https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Trace-9220-Overclockable-Motherboard/dp/B07G77QHV8/ref=pd_bxgy_147_img_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07G77QHV8&pd_rd_r=bc6aea81-2749-11e9-ad19-fb6cb727d522&pd_rd_w=67bzm&pd_rd_wg=94iYL&pf_rd_p=6725dbd6-9917-451d-beba-16af7874e407&pf_rd_r=GWDP48VAJHG0MRCRZF54&refRID=GWDP48VAJHG0MRCRZF54&th=1

Build your own. With a 2000 budget you could build a WAY better system then that.

Here is an example i put together:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QFtd29

I was going to buy a pre-built and decided to build my own recently and i could not be happier.
I get that whole thing but I literally don't have any clue how to do anything like that with a PC
Honestly mate, everyone says that until they actually try it. I built my first PC for £2000 in less than 2 hours and never had an issue. You can look at a guide on Youtube which will tell you anything you need to know. Manufacturers make things very easy for you, its more about the sequence in which you put everything together.

Also don't follow that list from Marceaux its shite.

Here's a better one. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JC8qMZ
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on February 03, 2019, 05:07:36 pm
Yeah go for Price's list (except with Win 10 Home instead of Pro).
Personally I'd go for a used 1080/1080ti instead of a new 2070, then you'll be way under your 2 grand budget. Not everyone's happy with getting used parts but with ebay it's actually really easy and they almost always take the buyer's side if there's anything remotely wrong.
Cases are a personal thing but there's a lot of variety in quality. There are some really good case reviews on youtube by Hardware Canucks that I'd recommend.

But yeah, building computers is easy, saves you a good buck too. Also means you'll have a way better idea of how to upgrade and troubleshoot should you ever need to.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on February 03, 2019, 05:29:30 pm
Yeah personally I use the features of Pro (I have a server rack at home with domain setup and everything so)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on February 03, 2019, 10:49:51 pm
Hey I like the build I put together in 15mins! I mean that aio is overpriced af and so are most of the parts but I just wanted to show with that budget how much better components he could get for the price compared to prebuilts. Also the cooler master h500m is an amazing case. Some of the best thermals on the case market. Could also go with h500p mesh. It will be my next case for sure.

And waste bro I was LITERALLY in your shoes a few months ago. With the help of a few YouTube guides that were simple I built my first pc with NO problems. And I couldn’t be happier with my choice.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on February 04, 2019, 02:07:34 am
Y'all clearly don't realize Waste is a United States M A R I N E and doesn't have the time to putting this together. In fact, you should be thanking HIM for HIS service by building the PC for him.

Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Wastee on February 04, 2019, 02:50:56 am
Y'all clearly don't realize Waste is a United States M A R I N E and doesn't have the time to putting this together. In fact, you should be thanking HIM for HIS service by building the PC for him.
:'(
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on February 04, 2019, 03:23:37 am
Y'all clearly don't realize Waste is a United States M A R I N E and doesn't have the time to putting this together. In fact, you should be thanking HIM for HIS service by building the PC for him.
:'(

If you have the time to plug up and play a new PC you have the time to build one. :P
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Sanders on February 04, 2019, 03:42:59 am
Waste are you active duty or reserves?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on February 04, 2019, 03:44:02 am
Waste are you active duty or reserves?

active duty in the weeb corps
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Wastee on February 04, 2019, 03:55:55 am
Waste are you active duty or reserves?

active duty in the weeb corps
But reserves in the USMC
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Wastee on February 05, 2019, 06:08:52 am
So if I were to go with John Price's build I'd be pretty set ye?

One of the things I liked about that IBP pc I posted was the price, 2000 is the top of my budget ideally I'd be around 1500.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on February 05, 2019, 08:20:08 am
So if I were to go with John Price's build I'd be pretty set ye?

One of the things I liked about that IBP pc I posted was the price, 2000 is the top of my budget ideally I'd be around 1500.

If you want to be closer to $1500 then go with a Ryzen 7 2700X system:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2knDsZ

But if you do not mind going closer to 2k then i think this build is perfect: ($1800)
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cbfbHh

Both systems would be monsters and very future-proof with the most modern parts possible for everything. They also both include everything you would need and i made sure they do not use rebates to get an exact price and kept all parts on Amazon/Newegg to limit shipping. ;D



P.S. Do not pay for windows up front. You can install and use it completely free with no issues, just pay for it later and use the extra money now for the system build. I am still on the free version of windows, pretty much only difference i notice is a small watermark that can be removed whenever i want to pay for it.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on February 05, 2019, 11:42:41 am
Drop i9 for i7 and get 2080ti
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on February 05, 2019, 01:45:44 pm
If you want an uber gaming PC now ($1700):
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/L9JLgw

If you upgrade the CPU when Zen 2 comes out ~Q3 2019 ($1400, then sell CPU and upgrade):
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nFthw6
DON'T get a 2700X unless you're actually doing video editing/streaming (let us know if you are, as you need more RAM and there are better CPUs for it). If you want cheaper now to upgrade, there's no reason for getting a 2700X, it's just a more expensive part to try to sell later. 2600 -> Zen 2 is the way to go.

Tomahawk for the motherboard, as MSI's motherboards are the best for overclocking atm in terms of VRM and capabilities. Price is not everything.
When looking at cases, having 3 fans in the front isn't always the best if they choke them by putting them 1mm from the glass front panel with no inlets. Personally some of my favourites are Fractal Design, like the Define R6, Meshify C and Define C. But again, personal taste.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on February 05, 2019, 04:14:33 pm
Drop i9 for i7 and get 2080ti

I do not think you understand how expensive 2080ti is lmfao, there is no way to fit one into his budget. And if he tried he would end up bottlenecking it badly because the cheaper cpu etc couldn't keep up.

If you want an uber gaming PC now ($1700):
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/L9JLgw

If you upgrade the CPU when Zen 2 comes out ~Q3 2019 ($1400, then sell CPU and upgrade):
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nFthw6
DON'T get a 2700X unless you're actually doing video editing/streaming (let us know if you are, as you need more RAM and there are better CPUs for it). If you want cheaper now to upgrade, there's no reason for getting a 2700X, it's just a more expensive part to try to sell later. 2600 -> Zen 2 is the way to go.

Tomahawk for the motherboard, as MSI's motherboards are the best for overclocking atm in terms of VRM and capabilities. Price is not everything.
When looking at cases, having 3 fans in the front isn't always the best if they choke them by putting them 1mm from the glass front panel with no inlets. Personally some of my favourites are Fractal Design, like the Define R6, Meshify C and Define C. But again, personal taste.

There is no reason for him to not get a i9-9900k right now when he can easily afford it if hes going over $1500 and its the current undisputed best gaming CPU. The intel build i suggested is superior to the one you just posted in literally every way and its barely more expensive. The tomahawk boards are considered budget oriented when compared to the gaming pro carbon boards. They are great boards for sure but the carbon boards are better. And when it comes to case if you are not considering the looks that much, you want the best thermals possible and the H500M/H500P Mesh are pretty much king when it comes to case temps. It also has pretty much all the features you could ask for in a high-end case.

And it seems he doesn't want to bother with it much after its built, that is why i suggested 2700X. Its a great CPU and if hes building a system to be done with its certainly better then the 2600 long term. But yes if he did want to upgrade in a few months going for a Ryzen 5 now would be good until the new ones release. And when it comes to mobos for ryzen i wouldnt say msi is the undisputed best. ASUS ROG boards are VERY good and some of the best quality available, and overclocking ryzen is a breeze on the rog b450/x470 boards. Also when it comes to RAM for Ryzen you certainly want to go for the fastest possible that is why i went with that new g.skill trident Z 3200mhz kit that is am4 certified and will give him the best speeds/timings possible right now.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Herishey on February 05, 2019, 04:18:08 pm
Yeah the 2080ti is insane, I was looking at it earlier when looking into a new PC.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: ~Midnight~ on February 05, 2019, 04:32:26 pm
All this talk about getting a new PC is making me wish I was rich smh.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Herishey on February 05, 2019, 04:34:05 pm
I'm not rich but I could afford an extra £80-90 a month or so so looking at a 2-3k PC.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: ~Midnight~ on February 05, 2019, 05:07:22 pm
I recently started a small side job while I attend classes. When my financial aid disbursement comes back, I might start setting some money aside to buy parts for a new PC gradually.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on February 05, 2019, 05:10:23 pm
I recently started a small side job while I attend classes. When my financial aid disbursement comes back, I might start setting some money aside to buy parts for a new PC gradually.

With Ryzen being so good and affordable now building a new gaming pc on a budget is easy! You can do it!!!!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: ~Midnight~ on February 05, 2019, 05:11:26 pm
I recently started a small side job while I attend classes. When my financial aid disbursement comes back, I might start setting some money aside to buy parts for a new PC gradually.

With Ryzen being so good and affordable now building a new gaming pc on a budget has never been more possible! You can do it!!!!!!!! ;D

Eh. I'm an Nvidia and Intel guy. Not a big fan of AMD products all that much but I'll look into it.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on February 05, 2019, 05:14:11 pm
I recently started a small side job while I attend classes. When my financial aid disbursement comes back, I might start setting some money aside to buy parts for a new PC gradually.

With Ryzen being so good and affordable now building a new gaming pc on a budget has never been more possible! You can do it!!!!!!!! ;D

Eh. I'm an Nvidia and Intel guy. Not a big fan of AMD products all that much but I'll look into it.

AMD is KILLING Intel right now in terms of CPU's price to performance. And the next gen Ryzen CPU's are supposed to kill intel lol but we will see... NVIDIA graphics cards are certainly still better then AMD's but who knows now that the AMD NaVi gpu's are about to release? And if you truly are on a tight budget AMD really is the only good option.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Herishey on February 05, 2019, 05:21:25 pm
I recently started a small side job while I attend classes. When my financial aid disbursement comes back, I might start setting some money aside to buy parts for a new PC gradually.

With Ryzen being so good and affordable now building a new gaming pc on a budget has never been more possible! You can do it!!!!!!!! ;D

Eh. I'm an Nvidia and Intel guy. Not a big fan of AMD products all that much but I'll look into it.
The last two PC's I had was Nvidia/AMD but I think I'll try Intel this time round.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on February 05, 2019, 05:24:20 pm
I recently started a small side job while I attend classes. When my financial aid disbursement comes back, I might start setting some money aside to buy parts for a new PC gradually.

With Ryzen being so good and affordable now building a new gaming pc on a budget has never been more possible! You can do it!!!!!!!! ;D

Eh. I'm an Nvidia and Intel guy. Not a big fan of AMD products all that much but I'll look into it.
The last two PC's I had was Nvidia/AMD but I think I'll try Intel this time round.

Tbh bro you should wait and see what the next gen Ryzen cpus are all about, they will be releasing in a couple of months. :-*
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Wastee on February 05, 2019, 05:25:31 pm
Some of you have had multiple PCs while I've played on two laptops the last 7 years



Wack
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Herishey on February 05, 2019, 05:35:17 pm
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I recently started a small side job while I attend classes. When my financial aid disbursement comes back, I might start setting some money aside to buy parts for a new PC gradually.

With Ryzen being so good and affordable now building a new gaming pc on a budget has never been more possible! You can do it!!!!!!!! ;D

Eh. I'm an Nvidia and Intel guy. Not a big fan of AMD products all that much but I'll look into it.
The last two PC's I had was Nvidia/AMD but I think I'll try Intel this time round.

Tbh bro you should wait and see what the next gen Ryzen cpus are all about, they will be releasing in a couple of months. :-*
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I planned to wait till around June to get a new one anyway so I'll give it a peak. Just having a browse around atm.

Some of you have had multiple PCs while I've played on two laptops the last 7 years



Wack
Laptops, ewww.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on February 05, 2019, 06:47:34 pm
Marceaux stop telling everyone the Ryzen's are so "Affordable" and "Good". Its very subjective.

When it comes to gaming performance the Ryzen's literally fall short EVERY TIME.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on February 05, 2019, 08:52:29 pm
Marceaux stop telling everyone the Ryzen's are so "Affordable" and "Good". Its very subjective.

When it comes to gaming performance the Ryzen's literally fall short EVERY TIME.

They are literally Affordable and GOOD. To say otherwise is retarded. And Yes Intel cpus are better at gaming but for the price difference it isnt much.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: BabyJesus on February 05, 2019, 09:14:22 pm
Literally just ignore everything marceux says because he fanboys over everything
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on February 05, 2019, 10:44:12 pm
Marceaux stop telling everyone the Ryzen's are so "Affordable" and "Good". Its very subjective.

When it comes to gaming performance the Ryzen's literally fall short EVERY TIME.

They are literally Affordable and GOOD. To say otherwise is retarded. And Yes Intel cpus are better at gaming but for the price difference it isnt much.
An 8700k literally costs the same as a 2700x and outperforms it by a mile. Same with a 9700k which is like $50 more.

You are just looking at the price and the core count then making assumptions. Don't mislead people. For that price I wouldn't call them good.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Fartknocker on February 06, 2019, 12:12:40 am
Anyone wanna donate their old gaming PC so I don't have to use a laptop?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: ~Midnight~ on February 06, 2019, 12:59:12 am
When the day comes..Price will help me pick out parts.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on February 06, 2019, 12:59:45 am
I recently started a small side job while I attend classes. When my financial aid disbursement comes back, I might start setting some money aside to buy parts for a new PC gradually.

With Ryzen being so good and affordable now building a new gaming pc on a budget has never been more possible! You can do it!!!!!!!! ;D

Eh. I'm an Nvidia and Intel guy. Not a big fan of AMD products all that much but I'll look into it.

AMD is KILLING Intel right now in terms of CPU's price to performance. And the next gen Ryzen CPU's are supposed to kill intel lol but we will see...

lmao every past AMD CPU gen was supposed to "kill" intel but it's always been all talk no walk so far, including the current gen
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on February 06, 2019, 01:04:42 am
People were going crazy for Ryzen until it actually came out and had a ton of firmware issues that should have been addressed way beforehand.

Almost as though they expect the only people that will buy those CPU's are people who only buy AMD Products, like Marceaux :)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on February 06, 2019, 04:52:18 pm
People were going crazy for Ryzen until it actually came out and had a ton of firmware issues that should have been addressed way beforehand.

Almost as though they expect the only people that will buy those CPU's are people who only buy AMD Products, like Marceaux :)

It is a FACT that ryzen cpu's offer the best price to performance. Its also a fact they are better at multi-tasking and non-gaming tasks. And its also a FACT that AMD is currently killing Intel in terms of innovation. Clearly some team green faggots here. Look this shit up and stop talking out of your ass. :)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: |Viper| on February 06, 2019, 05:02:00 pm
Man it’s just a computer.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Runepkyz on February 06, 2019, 06:11:16 pm
Man it’s just a computer.
NOU!
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on February 06, 2019, 07:11:59 pm
Oh Marceaux you are a silly billy.

Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on February 07, 2019, 02:29:40 am
An 8700k literally costs the same as a 2700x and outperforms it by a mile. Same with a 9700k which is like $50 more.

You are just looking at the price and the core count then making assumptions. Don't mislead people. For that price I wouldn't call them good.
I mean an 8700k is 400 pounds vs 2700X for 300 (as per Amazon right now). The difference at 1440p is literally within margins for error. The 2600 is overclockable and 150 pounds, so for budget builds it's a fucking no-brainer, considering how much games benefit from a good GPU over a good CPU.

Anyway considering a budget of 2000, you may as well buy Intel, assuming you're just gaming.
Nvidea has better cards than AMD at present, although I don't think the RTX series is worth it at all, but again, if you have the budget you may as well.

2nd hand is the way to go personally, especially for GPUs, and can save you a couple hundred on a 1080ti, which is pretty even to the 2080 (other than the ray tracing gimmick).
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on February 07, 2019, 04:17:54 am
Couple more days for the GPU and the waterblocks/fittings to arrive and she is ready.

 
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Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on February 07, 2019, 09:33:27 am
An 8700k literally costs the same as a 2700x and outperforms it by a mile. Same with a 9700k which is like $50 more.

You are just looking at the price and the core count then making assumptions. Don't mislead people. For that price I wouldn't call them good.
I mean an 8700k is 400 pounds vs 2700X for 300 (as per Amazon right now). The difference at 1440p is literally within margins for error. The 2600 is overclockable and 150 pounds, so for budget builds it's a fucking no-brainer, considering how much games benefit from a good GPU over a good CPU.

Anyway considering a budget of 2000, you may as well buy Intel, assuming you're just gaming.
Nvidea has better cards than AMD at present, although I don't think the RTX series is worth it at all, but again, if you have the budget you may as well.

2nd hand is the way to go personally, especially for GPUs, and can save you a couple hundred on a 1080ti, which is pretty even to the 2080 (other than the ray tracing gimmick).
Where are you seeing an 8700k for 400? I literally just checked and its selling for 330 or 340 :P Not a big enough difference to justify the lower performance imo.

Anyways, the discussion started out as a gaming one, but then as per most debates in general someone in particular shifted it the other way.

If an enthusiast needs a production CPU, they will buy one. Not go for the most budget thing there is.

I remember seeing a video I think where the 8700 literally beat the 2700x In Blender  everytime. If the Ryxen can't out render an i7 and it can't outgamr it I just don't understand what the appeal is.

Don't get me wrong though, I put a 2700x in my rendering PC so I'm not just an Intel fanboy, I just didn't agree with the argument being thrown out by Marceaux.

Agreed on the GPU opinion. However for Wastee first build I wouldn't recommend a second hand GPU just in case. 1080ti is cheap enough to justify buying it brand new for that budget.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on February 07, 2019, 07:06:43 pm
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-BX80684I78700K-Core-i7-8700K-Processor/dp/B07598VZR8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1549560957&sr=8-1&keywords=8700k
Most sites have them ~390, the cheapest I can find one (using PriceSpy no less) is like 365, no idea where you're getting 330-340.

Anyway, I'd have chosen the 9600k to compare it to, which is much cheaper (~250) and one of the best value for money CPUs for gaming. Considering how poorly most games utilize more than 4 cores, it's in a pretty sweet spot for the foreseeable future.

Remember that the Intel chips were released at vastly inflated prices (330-350 for the 9600k, 600 for the 9900k), the fact that they've come down so much in price is only because AMD was providing similar-ish performance for literally hundreds of pounds less.
If Zen 2 is even close to as good as current predictions have it then we'll have amazing value mid-range and content creation options, hopefully preventing Intel from gouging us too much with their 10nm chips, whenever they actually manage to make some.
In reality the real financial win for AMD is in the server market where they're clawing back masses of market share with Rome, giving them good long term income. PCs are small fry in the grand scheme of things.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on February 07, 2019, 07:46:44 pm
Yeah everything you said is true but i still feel as thouth we are missing the point but it's whatever.

Newegg EU has it listed for 340 btw, I had the wrong site.

9 pounds delivery though.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on February 07, 2019, 09:15:30 pm
So I am selling a bunch of stuff, maybe anyone here is interested in it, before I put it on Ebay.

I have 2x 1080ti, a 2080 ti and 3x 16gb of Corsair Dominator Platinum 3000mhz I want to get rid of.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on February 07, 2019, 10:21:53 pm
What 1080ti and 2080 ti are they and what were you looking for each of them?

EDIT: I actually need more RAM for my rendering RIG as well.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on February 08, 2019, 03:42:28 am
So I am selling a bunch of stuff, maybe anyone here is interested in it, before I put it on Ebay.

I have 2x 1080ti, a 2080 ti and 3x 16gb of Corsair Dominator Platinum 3000mhz I want to get rid of.

How much you wanting for 1 1080ti? I legit might buy it.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on February 08, 2019, 10:50:46 am
Suggest something, whatever you think its worth.


The 1080tis are MSI Gaming cards. I have used both of them for roughly a year in a SLI setup.

Here is the first one:
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And here is the 2nd one wrapped up, but its the same thing obviously:
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The 2080ti is a KFA2 OC. I have not used it at all, I have not even removed the wrapping from it. I bought it on Ebay, from a guy who also did not use it, because he decided to get a cheaper 1080ti instead. I decided to get a 3fan Zotac instead, so I never used it at all.

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And heres the ram:
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Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on February 08, 2019, 01:05:17 pm
I'll have a think about the GPU's. I just literally bought this:

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So as you can imagine I will need to find some time to justify those costs in my twisted head even if I am in need of more GPU's ::)

The RAM I will most likely take off your hands though. We can chat about that on Steam.

https://steamcommunity.com/id/Chrisehh/
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on February 08, 2019, 06:23:48 pm
How much are you charging for the cards and do you offer an FSE forum member discount? ;-)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on February 08, 2019, 06:28:19 pm
How much are you charging for the cards and do you offer an FSE forum member discount? ;-)

Only donators get the discount XD
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on February 08, 2019, 06:36:50 pm
So should I realistically aim for a higher 10series of cards like a 1070 or 1080 over my 1060, or just jump the gun and get a 2060?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on February 08, 2019, 06:45:12 pm
In the US you can buy second hand 1080ti's for like 4-500 now. That's 2080 comparable performance without the ray tracing  gimmick. Whereas the 2060 site between the 1070 and 1070ti range for the same price.

No brainer if you ask me :)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on February 08, 2019, 08:13:17 pm
Yeah, get a used 1080ti.


How much are you charging for the cards and do you offer an FSE forum member discount? ;-)

Offer me something. I am not in it for the money.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: BabyJesus on February 08, 2019, 11:10:44 pm
I’ll give you $100 for all of it
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: ~Midnight~ on February 08, 2019, 11:47:48 pm
I’ll give you 1 peso for all of it
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on February 09, 2019, 12:45:14 am
Just because I don't need to make a profit selling this stuff does not mean that I have to sell it for an unreasonable price.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: BabyJesus on February 09, 2019, 01:29:49 am
$100 and I’ll buy BCoF?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Sanders on February 09, 2019, 04:01:00 am
Why so much for gaming pc's
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on February 09, 2019, 04:14:49 am
Why so much for gaming pc's

Because most people do not know anything about PC's so many places will just charge whatever they want and kids will still buy it. Also you can blame crypto mining for alot of the price inflation. Especially with graphic cards etc... :'(
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: ~Midnight~ on February 09, 2019, 04:16:52 am
Why so much for gaming pc's

Because most people do not know anything about PC's so many places will just charge whatever they want and kids will still buy it. Also you can blame crypto mining for alot of the price inflation. Especially with graphic cards etc... :'(

IRONSIDE PCS TIME TO DROP 5K
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on February 10, 2019, 03:12:57 pm
Okay, one of the 1080ti is sold.

I have something else though. I was looking through old stuff and I found a bunch of stuff. I have no idea if any of it works, my bet is that atleast half of the memory, probably the CPU and the motherboard, aswell as the blu-ray drive (I think it is a blu-ray drive) work.
Either way, the case should work fine. Tho, its missing all the screws from the sidepanels.

So, because I don't want to go through the trouble of testing any of this stuff, I am gonna sell it all for 100 bucks. Let me know if any one you guys wants it.
If it all works its definitely worth more than 100 bucks. Given that I made BCoF run on worse hardware, if this stuff works its probably not too shabby of a System.

A bunch of DDR3 Vengeance memory, 1600 and 2400mhz, 8gb sticks.
A MSI Gtx 680
Some kind of ASUS Blu Ray Drive
An ASUS P9X79 Motherboard
Sesame street blanket is NOT included.

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Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: ~Midnight~ on February 10, 2019, 03:30:15 pm
Okay, one of the 1080ti is sold.

I have something else though. I was looking through old stuff and I found a bunch of stuff. I have no idea if any of it works, my bet is that atleast half of the memory, probably the CPU and the motherboard, aswell as the blu-ray drive (I think it is a blu-ray drive) work.
Either way, the case should work fine. Tho, its missing all the screws from the sidepanels.

So, because I don't want to go through the trouble of testing any of this stuff, I am gonna sell it all for 100 bucks. Let me know if any one you guys wants it.
If it all works its definitely worth more than 100 bucks. Given that I made BCoF run on worse hardware, if this stuff works its probably not too shabby of a System.

A bunch of DDR3 Vengeance memory, 1600 and 2400mhz, 8gb sticks.
A MSI Gtx 680
Some kind of ASUS Blu Ray Drive
An ASUS P9X79 Motherboard
Sesame street blanket is NOT included.

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Damn..all I wanted was that Sesame Street blanket.  >:( >:(
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on February 10, 2019, 03:54:11 pm
Yeah I know. But I own it since I was like 4 years old, so it will stay here.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: UniversitasMetal on February 11, 2019, 04:40:52 pm
Would u take 200 usd for the other 1080ti
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on February 11, 2019, 09:34:12 pm
Make it 400, which is still 100-200 below the price they sell used nowadays.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on February 11, 2019, 09:35:54 pm
I have $175 (but in Venezuelan bolivars) and a mcdonalds gift card for $8.28 for the 1080. Final offer
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on February 11, 2019, 09:50:01 pm
I only take 1920s Reichmark.

123 Billion Reichsmark for a 1080ti please.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: UniversitasMetal on February 12, 2019, 01:30:54 am
Which country ur in? Cuz u gotta mail that shit to turkey. If ur ok wit dat i can pay thru bank transfer just pm your IBAN and SWIFT numbers  (of ur usd account) we can discuss if ur willing.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on February 12, 2019, 10:45:11 am
I just sold it, sorry :P
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Rikkert on February 12, 2019, 03:48:28 pm
You already sold both 1080ti's?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on February 12, 2019, 05:53:33 pm
Yes
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on February 13, 2019, 11:31:12 am
https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/accessories-and-monitors/monitors/gaming/Lenovo-Legion-Y27gq-Monitor/p/DD116LPY27G

Finally a 240hz 1440p monitor.

Pros:
- 240hz
- 1440p
- HDR
- G Sync V2 (compatible with HDMI 2.0 and DP 1.4 FINALLY)
- 0.5ms Response Time
- TN So no backlight bleed issues

Cons:
- $1000 for a TN Panel
- G Sync V2 (Module rumored to cost $500 on its own), could have been FreeSync or just have none at all.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Lone on February 13, 2019, 09:25:26 pm
You didn't get the best price there

Gotem
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on February 22, 2019, 06:39:33 pm
Nvidia 2060 vs 1660? I wish I was not broke with all of these strange new cards coming out
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on February 22, 2019, 08:40:58 pm
1660 is a pointless card. Unless you can get a really good deal thats close to 200 you might as well just spend the extra 30-50 to get a 2060 with all the improvements that it comes with. Even if you don't use the RTX features.

Was looking at the Asus Strix 1660 Ti, its literally just a 1070 level of performance for the price of a 2060 which is more comparable to a 1070 ti. Like I said, no unless you get a good deal.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on February 22, 2019, 10:24:55 pm
1660 ti seems pretty out of place, there are so many better options around that price range. For example if your trying to save money just get a rx580 its performance is similar but half the price of a a 1660 ti. 1660 ti does perform better but for a budget mid-range card RX580 is the better deal on the price end. Its like they made the 1660 ti to compete with the RX590. But overall it just doesn't seem right, the 1660 ti should be cheaper if it really wants a solid place on the market imo. Some better choices would be Vega 56 now that the price has dropped to $260 or just pay a little more for the 2060. However i haven't actually seen any Vega 56's listed at that price yet but AMD said the prices will be coming down. Which makes me think the RX590 prices should go down as well which really makes things interesting. Vega 56 at $260 would be an amazing deal... If the price drops soon like they are saying it will, i am going to buy one myself.

Imo if you have the money for a 1660ti you should just get a little more and go with a rtx 2060 like Chriseh said. (Unless Vega 56 prices actually drop)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on February 22, 2019, 11:50:26 pm
I wouldn't buy a Vega 56 literally just because it seems to have shit tons of stability issues. Looked at 2 reviewers who compared it to a 1660ti today and it wouldn't even open some games.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on February 23, 2019, 12:24:06 am
I wouldn't buy a Vega 56 literally just because it seems to have shit tons of stability issues. Looked at 2 reviewers who compared it to a 1660ti today and it wouldn't even open some games.

That sucks if that is the case, I personally never looked into them that much due to the price always being like $400+. Ill have to do some research and see what the deal is with them.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on March 03, 2019, 09:36:49 pm
Going to be building this PC for my irl buddy. It will be his first ever gaming PC / desktop. He is on a very small budget and wont be looking to upgrade or do anything himself. He also lives pretty far away now so i want to give him the most complete build possible at first so he doesn't have to drive back and forth a lot for me to do upgrades frequently. His max budget is $500 with no exceptions. His day job is professional video editing for a news station which is why i went with the 2400G instead of a 2200G (8 threads+Multithreading and easy 4GHz OC). I also think the slightly better iGPU will serve him better long term until he decides to add a nice GPU. I plan to OC the CPU and iGPU for the best performance possible.

I also decided to go with 16gb ram right off the bat instead of 8gb because his iGPU will be using 3gb of his system ram for vram. And i noticed most games really struggle on these ryzen apu's with less then 16gb ram. I also could of left out the m.2 nvme boot drive but i really think its pointless to have a modern PC that isn't booting on a SSD. Its a real game changer and i want him to notice the speed instantly.

Personally i cant wait to build a MicroATX pc. Should look very nice and compact. Which is also why i went with a semi-modular PSU.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gKTMtg
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on March 05, 2019, 01:42:07 am
Solid build, lots of bang for very little buck.

Use PriceSpy (or local equivalent) to make sure you're getting all parts as cheaply as you can if budget is that much of a concern.
Also, put $10 aside for getting a 2nd hand Wraith Spire off eBay, it'll make a huge difference in what you can get out of the 2400G. I mean you can go for any cooler, but there's usually plenty of 2nd hand Wraith stuff going for cheap.
Alternatively you can get a much better cooler, but it depends on the money situation.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on March 05, 2019, 01:53:28 am
I've put up my old PC in case anyone's interested.

http://ebay.us/pCMv8s?cmpnId=5338273189

Its pretty cheap for what you get out of it. Still runs all games you throw at it at 60+FPS unless you are running 1440p or 4k then you need to tone down the settings a tad.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on March 05, 2019, 02:35:06 am
Solid build, lots of bang for very little buck.

Use PriceSpy (or local equivalent) to make sure you're getting all parts as cheaply as you can if budget is that much of a concern.
Also, put $10 aside for getting a 2nd hand Wraith Spire off eBay, it'll make a huge difference in what you can get out of the 2400G. I mean you can go for any cooler, but there's usually plenty of 2nd hand Wraith stuff going for cheap.
Alternatively you can get a much better cooler, but it depends on the money situation.

Thanks! :D Yeah ill have to look into some wraith spires. But tbh i have faith in the Wraith Stealth that is included.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Wastee on March 05, 2019, 11:11:18 am
Happy with how my new pc turned out :) building it was 10 times easier than I would have originally thought. Thanks Chriseh for the help! Sorry I didn't go with you this time Marceaux :( I'm sure your build would have been just as good!
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on March 05, 2019, 12:57:28 pm
Your welcome my guy, pc looks great!
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: ~Midnight~ on March 05, 2019, 01:59:44 pm
I've put up my old PC in case anyone's interested.

http://ebay.us/pCMv8s?cmpnId=5338273189

Its pretty cheap for what you get out of it. Still runs all games you throw at it at 60+FPS unless you are running 1440p or 4k then you need to tone down the settings a tad.

I should get it for free for my loyalty and dedication to the 18blee
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on March 05, 2019, 05:22:32 pm
Happy with how my new pc turned out :) building it was 10 times easier than I would have originally thought. Thanks Chriseh for the help! Sorry I didn't go with you this time Marceaux :( I'm sure your build would have been just as good!

It doesn't make much difference, both would of been high end machines capable of pretty much anything. I am just glad you decided to build your own instead of buying a prebuilt. Congrats on the build man. Please post pics or something! ;D
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on March 05, 2019, 07:42:56 pm
I've put up my old PC in case anyone's interested.

http://ebay.us/pCMv8s?cmpnId=5338273189

Its pretty cheap for what you get out of it. Still runs all games you throw at it at 60+FPS unless you are running 1440p or 4k then you need to tone down the settings a tad.

I should get it for free for my loyalty and dedication to the 18blee
somebody already paid the buy it now xD
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: ~Midnight~ on March 05, 2019, 07:51:50 pm
I've put up my old PC in case anyone's interested.

http://ebay.us/pCMv8s?cmpnId=5338273189

Its pretty cheap for what you get out of it. Still runs all games you throw at it at 60+FPS unless you are running 1440p or 4k then you need to tone down the settings a tad.

I should get it for free for my loyalty and dedication to the 18blee
somebody already paid the buy it now xD

Why didn't you add a condition to the purchase that the buyer needs to join the 18e? wtf???
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on March 05, 2019, 08:15:54 pm
Oh god do you remember when I needed Steam Levels as 18e got too big and I made the joining requirement 2 trading cards

LMAO
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: ~Midnight~ on March 05, 2019, 08:20:06 pm
Oh god do you remember when I needed Steam Levels as 18e got too big and I made the joining requirement 2 trading cards

LMAO

(https://media.giphy.com/media/3owzWgSWlMRFL1NiOQ/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on March 06, 2019, 05:19:51 am
Left a window near my pc open last night with freezing temps coming in. My pc was chilling boiiiii (https://i.imgur.com/ItOn6Rp.png)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on March 06, 2019, 08:50:20 pm
11 degrees. Hahaha Nice
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on March 11, 2019, 04:41:23 pm
Worth?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07JD47N3R/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07JD47N3R/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on March 11, 2019, 04:42:37 pm
For that price you get a secondhand 1080 ti :/
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on March 11, 2019, 05:04:01 pm
Worth?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07JD47N3R/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07JD47N3R/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

I would say its worth it. Not a bad price at all.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on March 11, 2019, 05:36:59 pm
Yeah, saw it but as always I'm hesitant to pull the trigger on the 2000 series. Figured I'd ask the 1337 PC meta masters first
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on March 12, 2019, 04:21:11 pm
So what are y'all's experiences with buying from Ebay? I see 1070 ti's on sale for ~330 and 1080's for 380USD+ and I assume they're both massive upgrades over my 1060 but I've never bought second hand.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on March 12, 2019, 04:26:27 pm
GPU is never really a problem to buy secondhand. Generally if they work when they are purchased, then as long as they are not kept in AWFULL conditions, then they will work 5 years down the line.

So yes, go for it.

Don't go for a 1080 if you can buy a 1070ti as there is basically no difference after the smallest of overclocks.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on March 12, 2019, 04:38:50 pm
GPU is never really a problem to buy secondhand. Generally if they work when they are purchased, then as long as they are not kept in AWFULL conditions, then they will work 5 years down the line.

So yes, go for it.

Don't go for a 1080 if you can buy a 1070ti as there is basically no difference after the smallest of overclocks.
and for OC'ing I just use MSI afterburner?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on March 12, 2019, 04:40:41 pm
GPU is never really a problem to buy secondhand. Generally if they work when they are purchased, then as long as they are not kept in AWFULL conditions, then they will work 5 years down the line.

So yes, go for it.

Don't go for a 1080 if you can buy a 1070ti as there is basically no difference after the smallest of overclocks.
and for OC'ing I just use MSI afterburner?
That or EVGA Precision X1. I use the EVGA one as its abit nicer to use tbh.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on March 12, 2019, 04:52:59 pm
Sounds good. I think I might purchase this https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-GeForce-GTX-1070-TI-SC-Gaming-Black-Edition-8GB-GDDR5-Graphic-Card/283411321921?epid=15027050080&hash=item41fca19441%3Ag%3AriIAAOSwgPVchFTX&LH_BIN=1 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-GeForce-GTX-1070-TI-SC-Gaming-Black-Edition-8GB-GDDR5-Graphic-Card/283411321921?epid=15027050080&hash=item41fca19441%3Ag%3AriIAAOSwgPVchFTX&LH_BIN=1)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on March 12, 2019, 05:42:05 pm
Sounds good. I think I might purchase this https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-GeForce-GTX-1070-TI-SC-Gaming-Black-Edition-8GB-GDDR5-Graphic-Card/283411321921?epid=15027050080&hash=item41fca19441%3Ag%3AriIAAOSwgPVchFTX&LH_BIN=1 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-GeForce-GTX-1070-TI-SC-Gaming-Black-Edition-8GB-GDDR5-Graphic-Card/283411321921?epid=15027050080&hash=item41fca19441%3Ag%3AriIAAOSwgPVchFTX&LH_BIN=1)

I honestly think you should wait man, word around town is that GPU prices are dropping steadily. Also i do not feel like a 1060 to a 1070ti is worth the upgrade. Why not go much bigger or at least do the next gen cards because you get the future RTX features and gddr6 etc.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on March 12, 2019, 07:40:22 pm
Sounds good. I think I might purchase this https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-GeForce-GTX-1070-TI-SC-Gaming-Black-Edition-8GB-GDDR5-Graphic-Card/283411321921?epid=15027050080&hash=item41fca19441%3Ag%3AriIAAOSwgPVchFTX&LH_BIN=1 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-GeForce-GTX-1070-TI-SC-Gaming-Black-Edition-8GB-GDDR5-Graphic-Card/283411321921?epid=15027050080&hash=item41fca19441%3Ag%3AriIAAOSwgPVchFTX&LH_BIN=1)

I honestly think you should wait man, word around town is that GPU prices are dropping steadily. Also i do not feel like a 1060 to a 1070ti is worth the upgrade. Why not go much bigger or at least do the next gen cards because you get the future RTX features and gddr6 etc.
Yeah, after consulting my spiritual leader he said I should I just go big or go home. I'll probably just save my next few paychecks and aim for a high tier XX80 card.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on March 12, 2019, 07:46:18 pm
I mean depends what kind of person you are. Didn't need to upgrade my GTX 980 but I did anyway kek
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on March 16, 2019, 01:06:26 am
I managed to sell my i5 4670k and GTX 760 surprisingly easily, considering their age. 45 and 35 pounds respectively. Considering how cheap current gen stuff is I didn't think anyone would go for them. I'll sell the old DDR3 RAM off soon and I guess I'll try to sell the motherboard. Just have to figure out the best way to get rid of my old case.

Anyone got thoughts on NVMe vs Sata? For gaming I feel like it's not at all worth the extra cost from what I've seen of loading times.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on March 16, 2019, 01:50:36 am
I managed to sell my i5 4670k and GTX 760 surprisingly easily, considering their age. 45 and 35 pounds respectively. Considering how cheap current gen stuff is I didn't think anyone would go for them. I'll sell the old DDR3 RAM off soon and I guess I'll try to sell the motherboard. Just have to figure out the best way to get rid of my old case.

Anyone got thoughts on NVMe vs Sata? For gaming I feel like it's not at all worth the extra cost from what I've seen of loading times.

I have both and i think NVMe feels much faster. Here are the numbers on both of mine.

Gigabyte 256gb NVMe
(https://i.imgur.com/Ak5dw9I.png)

ADATA Ultimate 512gb Sata
(https://i.imgur.com/KXi9BnI.png)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on March 16, 2019, 09:56:17 pm
Also remember that a lot of modern game stream data from harddrives, so having a NVME SSD will help with that.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on March 17, 2019, 06:57:59 pm
Amazing prices right now with the release of the gtx 1660 non ti.

Which should i buy?

Sapphire NITRO+ RX 590 8gb: $219
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202327&Description=rx%20590&cm_re=rx_590-_-14-202-327-_-Product

EVGA XC Ultra GTX 1660 6gb: $229
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487439&Description=Gtx%2b1660&cm_re=Gtx%2b1660-_-14-487-439-_-Product

Pretty sure i will go with the EVGA 1660 but idk for sure.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on March 18, 2019, 05:05:24 pm
why tho
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on March 18, 2019, 05:32:22 pm
why tho

Because i need a gpu fam, and i am trying to keep it around $200 max. I would just go with Vega 56 if the prices would come down some more. But we will see. It seems all prices are going to continue to drop now, so maybe ill wait. Its to hard to decide! :'(
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on March 18, 2019, 06:15:57 pm
You would do better to go for a RX-590 than a GTX 1660.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on March 19, 2019, 01:19:18 pm
Surely you could get a 2nd hand 1070 or 1070ti for cheaper? 2nd hand prices have fallen a fair bit recently, I'd say it's worth having a look.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on March 19, 2019, 01:25:35 pm
Personally unless you are going for a brand new card, I wouldn't ever buy a GFX card new. Literally no reason to.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on March 19, 2019, 05:05:38 pm
Trust me i am all for a used card and planned to get one until these new price changes. I just really like new stuff. And the 1070's still seem to be about $250+ unless i want to try and win a bid war. But ide rather just buy it instantly. And if i was going to go closer to $250-300 ide probably just get the 1660 ti since its a tad better then a stock 1070. But again once you're at $300 you might aswell go for a 2060 or something. But idk.

I am leaning towards a 590 since it seems the price will stay low so i dont have to rush and buy it on sale. But then again an overclocked 1660 is basically a 1660 ti but only 6gb of vram. Decisions decisions... And i will keep my eye on the used market for a card of course.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on March 19, 2019, 09:33:20 pm
The sapphire rx590's are now sold out. I should of bought one when i had the chance, rip. Looks like ill probably end up with a 1660 or say yolo and pay extra for the 1660 ti. Unless sapphire restocks the 590's soon and keeps them priced at $220.

However i could just save myself a good bit of money and settle for a used rx580 for like $165. Im not really sure what the best choice would be. :-\
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on March 21, 2019, 02:26:45 am
To buy used stuff just look at auctions that are ending soon, if there's something you like wait until 1 min before it ends and put a price $10 higher. Honestly it's WAY cheaper than trying to instant buy on eBay.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on March 21, 2019, 02:35:37 am
To buy used stuff just look at auctions that are ending soon, if there's something you like wait until 1 min before it ends and put a price $10 higher. Honestly it's WAY cheaper than trying to instant buy on eBay.

About to try and snag this card then. Hopefully i win it!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/SAPPHIRE-NITRO-Radeon-RX-580-8GB-Special-Edition-Excellent-Condition-/392258872200?_trksid=p2047675.m43663.l10137&nordt=true&rt=nc&orig_cvip=true
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on March 21, 2019, 03:38:26 am
To buy used stuff just look at auctions that are ending soon, if there's something you like wait until 1 min before it ends and put a price $10 higher. Honestly it's WAY cheaper than trying to instant buy on eBay.

About to try and snag this card then. Hopefully i win it!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/SAPPHIRE-NITRO-Radeon-RX-580-8GB-Special-Edition-Excellent-Condition/392258872200?hash=item5b54736388:g:4aEAAOSw8~hcS-vy&autorefresh=true

Thanks a ton for the advice tiki. Although i had to bid at literally the last second to win it i got it!!! Total with shipping was $150. Such a good deal!!!!!

Here is my finished build.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/c4ms3b

Only thing i plan to do in the future is add a 1tb+ ssd for more storage. And i 100% plan to upgrade to Ryzen 3000 series R7 or R9 when they come out here soon hopefully.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on March 25, 2019, 03:41:44 am
Its complete! Got the gpu installed with no probs and damn this thing is powerful! ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aC510Kq7Wg

Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Windflower on May 01, 2019, 02:10:13 am
Its complete! Got the gpu installed with no probs and damn this thing is powerful! ;D

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aC510Kq7Wg
[close]


Is this everything on your pc part picker list? How's the performance for that price range? Also ya don't have a cpu cooler/heatsink or what?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on May 01, 2019, 06:36:53 am
Its complete! Got the gpu installed with no probs and damn this thing is powerful! ;D

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aC510Kq7Wg
[close]


Is this everything on your pc part picker list? How's the performance for that price range? Also ya don't have a cpu cooler/heatsink or what?

This is the completed build list: https://pcpartpicker.com/b/HpkdnQ but yeah i am pretty sure everything in that video was in the list. The CPU comes with a Wraith Stealth cooler which is what i am using (its really good).

As far as performance i think its amazing, i can run anything on high-ultra at 1080p 60+ fps and can run most stuff at 1440p 60+ fps. However i would like a cpu with hyper threading and more cores for some more intensive editing and some really cpu heavy games. But the 2200G is really impressive for the price. However i plan to upgrade my cpu to a Ryzen 3000 series chip once they come out here soon. This system also handles streaming just fine although a better cpu would give even better results.

You looking to get a new system?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on May 01, 2019, 10:27:59 pm
I need a laptop for college (I'll be on campus most of the day now so a desktop won't be too accessible).

Anyone have a suggestion that's <$700?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Windflower on May 02, 2019, 01:42:43 am
Its complete! Got the gpu installed with no probs and damn this thing is powerful! ;D

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aC510Kq7Wg
[close]


Is this everything on your pc part picker list? How's the performance for that price range? Also ya don't have a cpu cooler/heatsink or what?

This is the completed build list: https://pcpartpicker.com/b/HpkdnQ but yeah i am pretty sure everything in that video was in the list. The CPU comes with a Wraith Stealth cooler which is what i am using (its really good).

As far as performance i think its amazing, i can run anything on high-ultra at 1080p 60+ fps and can run most stuff at 1440p 60+ fps. However i would like a cpu with hyper threading and more cores for some more intensive editing and some really cpu heavy games. But the 2200G is really impressive for the price. However i plan to upgrade my cpu to a Ryzen 3000 series chip once they come out here soon. This system also handles streaming just fine although a better cpu would give even better results.

You looking to get a new system?
Yeah I need a new computer, I've been using laptops for the last 5-6 years of my life and it's about time I switch to a proper desktop. Though don't have a lot of money to invest in it and need a new one so that's why I was interested in your budget setup there. That's quite a nice setup for that price range which is basically what I was going for too. But yeah I might go with something like this build or very similar to it. Thanks for the answers!
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on May 02, 2019, 02:57:36 am
Its complete! Got the gpu installed with no probs and damn this thing is powerful! ;D

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aC510Kq7Wg
[close]


Is this everything on your pc part picker list? How's the performance for that price range? Also ya don't have a cpu cooler/heatsink or what?

This is the completed build list: https://pcpartpicker.com/b/HpkdnQ but yeah i am pretty sure everything in that video was in the list. The CPU comes with a Wraith Stealth cooler which is what i am using (its really good).

As far as performance i think its amazing, i can run anything on high-ultra at 1080p 60+ fps and can run most stuff at 1440p 60+ fps. However i would like a cpu with hyper threading and more cores for some more intensive editing and some really cpu heavy games. But the 2200G is really impressive for the price. However i plan to upgrade my cpu to a Ryzen 3000 series chip once they come out here soon. This system also handles streaming just fine although a better cpu would give even better results.

You looking to get a new system?
Yeah I need a new computer, I've been using laptops for the last 5-6 years of my life and it's about time I switch to a proper desktop. Though don't have a lot of money to invest in it and need a new one so that's why I was interested in your budget setup there. That's quite a nice setup for that price range which is basically what I was going for too. But yeah I might go with something like this build or very similar to it. Thanks for the answers!

For sure man i know the struggle i was in the exact same boat until i built this pc and its dreamy.

Steam me whenever and i got you with whatever you need.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on May 27, 2019, 07:32:33 pm
Oh baby!!! Coming out July 7th, i cannot fucking wait!!! Probably going with the R7 3700X.

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi68.tinypic.com%2F1z2ddg1.png&hash=33106919e90880a2e85007610f07aff20e9a007b)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on June 20, 2019, 08:09:29 am
OK AMD FANBOY XDDDDDDDDDDD
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on June 20, 2019, 06:40:22 pm
OK AMD FANBOY XDDDDDDDDDDD

Ryzen 3000 CPU's are killing Intel right now. Intel is going to have to start trying again if they want to keep up.

(https://images.news18.com/ibnlive/uploads/698x552/jpg/2019/06/AMD-Ryzen-9-3950X.jpg)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on June 20, 2019, 06:48:34 pm
Someone buy me a 2080.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: BabyJesus on June 20, 2019, 08:17:28 pm
Someone buy me a 2080.
want mine?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on June 20, 2019, 08:29:23 pm
Someone buy me a 2080.
want mine?
Sure. I have a minimal wear M4A1-s with some NiP stickers in CSGO if you want to trade
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on June 25, 2019, 05:36:38 am
I really wanna order this RAM kit to pair with my new R7 3700x in july!

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232728?item=N82E16820232728&ignorebbr=1&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-pc-_-pla-_-memory+%28desktop+memory%29-_-N82E16820232728&gclid=Cj0KCQjw6cHoBRDdARIsADiTTzaJwXKg0sqznDgelZYFAMx6YUq0u5NPAgk61LoAg5llC6x5F_hXdigaAo1DEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on June 25, 2019, 09:53:33 pm
Someone buy me a 2080.
want mine?
Sure. I have a minimal wear M4A1-s with some NiP stickers in CSGO if you want to trade

i can offer an actual m4a4 from a chechnyan black market
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Ry@n on June 30, 2019, 08:58:49 pm
Looking to build a PC £700 limit (already have a GPU). any help is appreciated, especielly with choosing a CPU with good value for money.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on June 30, 2019, 10:30:57 pm
Looking to build a PC £700 limit (already have a GPU). any help is appreciated, especielly with choosing a CPU with good value for money.

Wait until July 7th when the new Ryzen 3000 CPU's release they will be the best cpus on the market not only performance wise but also price. ;D Ide go for Ryzen 7 3700x/3800x and pair it with a new b550 or x570 mobo. Also make sure to get some fast ram i would go for at least 3200mhz and probably g.skill since they have kits made specifically for amd. And what GPU do you have?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Ry@n on July 01, 2019, 12:32:02 am
Looking to build a PC £700 limit (already have a GPU). any help is appreciated, especielly with choosing a CPU with good value for money.

Wait until July 7th when the new Ryzen 3000 CPU's release they will be the best cpus on the market not only performance wise but also price. ;D Ide go for Ryzen 7 3700x/3800x and pair it with a new b550 or x570 mobo. Also make sure to get some fast ram i would go for at least 3200mhz and probably g.skill since they have kits made specifically for amd. And what GPU do you have?
i should of clarified that my GPU is a 1050 TI, personally i am a Intel man, but i heard that AMD are competing quite well now...

im also not bothered about looks, or anything fancy (like cases or lights or any aesthetic shit.)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on July 01, 2019, 02:25:14 am
Looking to build a PC £700 limit (already have a GPU). any help is appreciated, especielly with choosing a CPU with good value for money.

Wait until July 7th when the new Ryzen 3000 CPU's release they will be the best cpus on the market not only performance wise but also price. ;D Ide go for Ryzen 7 3700x/3800x and pair it with a new b550 or x570 mobo. Also make sure to get some fast ram i would go for at least 3200mhz and probably g.skill since they have kits made specifically for amd. And what GPU do you have?
i should of clarified that my GPU is a 1050 TI, personally i am a Intel man, but i heard that AMD are competing quite well now...

im also not bothered about looks, or anything fancy (like cases or lights or any aesthetic shit.)

I understand being an Intel or AMD fan. But these new Ryzen 3000 CPU's are simply to good to ignore. Its pretty unanimous that they are the best choice right NOW for a cpu anyway. Intel still winning the GPU race however. 1050 TI is solid. But for sure look into the Ryzen 3000 series my man. :)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Ry@n on July 01, 2019, 03:38:55 am
Looking to build a PC £700 limit (already have a GPU). any help is appreciated, especielly with choosing a CPU with good value for money.

Wait until July 7th when the new Ryzen 3000 CPU's release they will be the best cpus on the market not only performance wise but also price. ;D Ide go for Ryzen 7 3700x/3800x and pair it with a new b550 or x570 mobo. Also make sure to get some fast ram i would go for at least 3200mhz and probably g.skill since they have kits made specifically for amd. And what GPU do you have?
i should of clarified that my GPU is a 1050 TI, personally i am a Intel man, but i heard that AMD are competing quite well now...

im also not bothered about looks, or anything fancy (like cases or lights or any aesthetic shit.)

I understand being an Intel or AMD fan. But these new Ryzen 3000 CPU's are simply to good to ignore. Its pretty unanimous that they are the best choice right NOW for a cpu anyway. Intel still winning the GPU race however. 1050 TI is solid. But for sure look into the Ryzen 3000 series my man. :)
Thanks for the advice. I'll look into it for sure!
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on July 02, 2019, 01:27:54 am
price - performance definitely an i5 8th generation :)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on July 02, 2019, 02:37:27 am
price - performance definitely an i5 8th generation :)

Idk i think the Ryzen 3600 is a much better option. $199 and its a BEAST.

"The Ryzen 5 3600 seemingly matches the performance of the Core i9-9900K (which has two more cores) in multi-threaded testing and actually beats the -9900K in single threaded tests (beating the 2700X by 36%), making the Ryzen 5 3600 the fastest single-threaded CPU"
(https://img.purch.com/passmark-png/o/aHR0cDovL21lZGlhLmJlc3RvZm1pY3JvLmNvbS81L0wvODQzODk3L29yaWdpbmFsL1Bhc3NtYXJrLnBuZw==)
(https://hothardware.com/ContentImages/NewsItem/48563/content/small_passmark_cpumark_zen2.jpg)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on July 03, 2019, 05:51:45 am
RTX 2060 Super looking real nice.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on July 03, 2019, 05:44:20 pm
I feel like with the power of the super 2060 or 2070 it would be a justified upgrade over a 1060. Seems the super 2070 will probably give performance similar to a 1080 or 1080ti and will set me up for a while but I still want to see a final price
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on July 03, 2019, 07:22:43 pm
I feel like with the power of the super 2060 or 2070 it would be a justified upgrade over a 1060. Seems the super 2070 will probably give performance similar to a 1080 or 1080ti and will set me up for a while but I still want to see a final price

If i am not mistaken the prices are final. And also the 2060 super is better then a 1080 and the super 2070 is better then a 1080ti. Definitely a worthy upgrade from a 1060 imo. Especially with the 8gb of gddr6 vram.

(https://cdn.videocardz.com/1/2019/07/RTX-SUPER-e1562070626665.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/3Bllvll.png)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on July 06, 2019, 02:59:31 am
AMD just dropped prices to fire back at the Super RTX cards. Interesting...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-vYu89W4AAl2xw.jpg)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on July 06, 2019, 06:39:04 am
Thats why we neeed competition.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on July 07, 2019, 07:53:17 pm
ITS HERE AT LAST! RYZEN 3000 IS OUT NOW!!!! ;D (Cant wait to order my R7 3700x in a few days for my bday!)

Also which is better, RTX 2060 Super or RX 5700 XT? Both are $400. Cant make up my mind...
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on July 08, 2019, 12:20:52 am
ITS HERE AT LAST! RYZEN 3000 IS OUT NOW!!!! ;D (Cant wait to order my R7 3700x in a few days for my bday!)

Also which is better, RTX 2060 Super or RX 5700 XT? Both are $400. Cant make up my mind...

After looking at tons of benchmarks it seems clear the RX 5700 XT is quite a bit better then the 2060 super. And is pretty much equal to a 2070 super... For $399... :o
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on July 08, 2019, 05:13:12 pm
5700 XT and 5700 are both looking like amazing value already, and considering that it's just with the first set of drivers, it's only going to get better from there.
Can't wait to see what AIB partners release, as with better cooling and lower noise from non-blower fans they'll be amazing cards.

I've also heard there's more performance to be had from the Zen 2 processors as there was something holding them back which was negated by disabling a single core or something like that.

So glad we've got real competition in higher end components after all this time.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on July 08, 2019, 07:21:08 pm
5700 XT and 5700 are both looking like amazing value already, and considering that it's just with the first set of drivers, it's only going to get better from there.
Can't wait to see what AIB partners release, as with better cooling and lower noise from non-blower fans they'll be amazing cards.

I've also heard there's more performance to be had from the Zen 2 processors as there was something holding them back which was negated by disabling a single core or something like that.

So glad we've got real competition in higher end components after all this time.

I know its really amazing tbh. I cant wait for the Sapphire Nitro+ 5700 XT. Should be a fucking monster!
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on July 08, 2019, 09:32:53 pm
Are there any drawbacks to AMD GPU's? I do want to upgrade and can probably sell my 1060 to a friend who wants to build a PC.

and on that note, have any of you all used Kinguin's suspiciously cheap windows 10 keys?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on July 08, 2019, 10:34:32 pm
Are there any drawbacks to AMD GPU's? I do want to upgrade and can probably sell my 1060 to a friend who wants to build a PC.

and on that note, have any of you all used Kinguin's suspiciously cheap windows 10 keys?

Right now the only real drawback from the RX 5700 XT etc is that the temps are kind of high (still safe and within limits) and the card is somewhat loud. But that is only because of the blower fan design on the default card. Very soon 3rd party companies will release their own version of the RX 5700 with dual fans/triple fans and much better heatsinks etc for the cooling solution which will also make the card much quieter. The 3rd party cards will also be overclocked etc right out of the box so they will be better then the default cards. But that being said the default cards are still very good gpu's.

I would personally buy a RX 5700 XT over a RTX 2070 Super because the performance is almost identical and the card is $100 cheaper. And its important to note that the RX 5700's have been out for just a few days now and as drivers update etc the cards will become even better/faster then they are today.

And I highly recommend going with a Sapphire brand variant for any AMD GPU as they are widely regarded as the best AMD GPU vendor and they always maximize performance and stability.

As far as Kinguin goes i have heard mixed things but mostly that the windows keys work just fine. They also offer buyer protection that pretty much guarantees you get what you pay for or your money back etc. I plan to buy one of their windows keys myself here soon, but honestly you do not really even NEED to buy a key. My watermark doesn't even show half the time and when it does i dont even see it anymore.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on July 09, 2019, 06:28:01 pm
With the sale going on right now over the Ryzen 2000 series, what's the best budget build I could make for my friend?

and noob question but how do you bootleg windows and what are the drawbacks?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on July 09, 2019, 08:27:15 pm
With the sale going on right now over the Ryzen 2000 series, what's the best budget build I could make for my friend?

and noob question but how do you bootleg windows and what are the drawbacks?

Here is my suggested build assuming you sell him your 1060. I tried to cram in as many high end parts and features as possible while also keeping budget in mind.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RLVdsZ

And from my experience the only drawback from not paying for a windows key is a light watermark in the bottom right of your screen that only shows up half the time.
As far as getting windows without buying it up front:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXTqz3Fd28M&
When it asks for a key you can click where it says "I dont have a product key" and it will still install windows and let you use it just like normal except it will have a watermark in the corner of your screen saying Activate Windows. But regardless if you activate it or not Windows will operate just fine and normally without a key.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Nero_ on July 09, 2019, 08:43:25 pm
imagine not cracking windows in 2019
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on July 10, 2019, 12:33:17 am
Spoiler
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RLVdsZ
[close]
Yeah that's pretty solid for a cheap build, although personally I'd make a few adjustments:

You can definitely lose the case fans, your temps won't be high anyway on a stock 2600
You can get away with a cheaper power supply (500W is plenty) unless William's friend is planning on getting a 2080 anytime soon; the 2600 has such a low TDP especially with stock cooler and 1060s aren't exactly power intensive either
With a 2600, particularly with on a cheaper B450 you'll struggle get to RAM working at high speeds, so no sense spending that much on it

$100 saved (and no pesky mail in rebates):
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/L6D3q4

Also always shop around for parts, and you may well be able to get 2600s going for cheap on eBay soon as people who bought them as placeholders upgrade to Zen 2
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on July 10, 2019, 01:04:12 am
I am pretty positive the steel legend will easily support 3200mhz as its one of the higher quality b450 matx boards. I also made sure to pick an AMD certified ram kit to ensure it hits those high speeds. Although you are right there are probably some cheaper options and i actually just found this kit that looks like a great deal. https://www.newegg.com/geil-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820158583 it is also AMD certified.

And yeah can probably do without the fans but 3 rgb fans from a good brand for under $40 is hard to pass on imo and it will help his thermals overall.

The only thing i actually dislike/disagree about your suggested changes is the power supply. I have heard some terribly tragic things about Rosewill psu's. And if there is one thing i would never go cheap on it is the PSU, considering it can destroy and ruin the entire system. I would only go with EVGA/Seasonic psu's as they are known to use the highest quality parts possible and have outstanding reliability. I Also only chose 650w because it was only $5 more then the 500w unit and according to pcpartpicker it was the cheapest EVGA or Seasonic Bronze+ semi modular option. Also the all black cables look very nice and clean.

Will also told me on steam his budget is like $700 so i went ahead and used all of it. :P

If i were to change the build as it stands ide go with that Geil ram kit i listed above and upgrade the cpu to a 2600x. And the price would actually be a little lower then my initial suggested build.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on July 10, 2019, 05:24:07 pm
Thank you for your builds! I think right now I'm trying to figure out if he wants to do a 2200g for integrated graphics with the goal of upgrading later, or if he just wants to future proof it and get a GPU with a 2600.

An RX 580 should be plenty of gaming performance right? I say that because the price jump between 580's and the new nvidia/AMD cards are huge in comparison to the budget. I might just hold onto my 1060 as it will still be a while before 3rd parties make their own GPU's and sales start hitting
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on July 10, 2019, 06:45:29 pm
Thank you for your builds! I think right now I'm trying to figure out if he wants to do a 2200g for integrated graphics with the goal of upgrading later, or if he just wants to future proof it and get a GPU with a 2600.

An RX 580 should be plenty of gaming performance right? I say that because the price jump between 580's and the new nvidia/AMD cards are huge in comparison to the budget. I might just hold onto my 1060 as it will still be a while before 3rd parties make their own GPU's and sales start hitting

RX 580 is great. I currently use a Sapphire Nitro+ RX 580 and it handles anything i have thrown at it just fine. However my cpu is bottlenecking my gpu and i am on a 2200G. That being said if you plan to go integrated graphics just buy the Ryzen 5 2400G. Its worth the extra money more then you can imagine. And the integrated graphics will actually be great for a starter PC. And the cpu will be better long run when he adds a gpu.

Heres an updated build with an apu instead and almost bare minimum price while maintaining quality.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3hzNRJ
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on July 10, 2019, 07:42:16 pm
Just ordered this ram kit, was going to get the Geil one but i found this white kit on sale also. Should look amazing in my build and now i can use my Crucial ballistix 4x4 kit for my next pc build after i get my 3700x later this month! If they ever restock....
https://www.newegg.com/team-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820331285?Item=N82E16820331285
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: |Viper| on July 13, 2019, 08:33:07 am
Any suggestions on monitors? Looking for a 144 hz curved or not. A decent price for me would be from $100-250.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on July 13, 2019, 08:54:51 pm
Viotek GN24C - 1080p 144hz curved 24" for $170
In terms of your requirements probs the best option, assuming you're in the US, I think it's hard to get elsewhere.

Otherwise look at
Acer XFA 240
AOC G2590FX

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQDq85VkFNQ
These guys know there stuff when it comes to monitors, so I'd say any of them is a safe bet
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on July 13, 2019, 09:40:44 pm
I still use my Asus VG248Q (now the VG248QE) as my second monitor since I upgraded to a 240hz one, I would highly recommend:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-VG248QE-Widescreen-Multimedia-80000000/dp/B00B19T7QC

It was probably one of the best bang for buck 144hz 1ms response monitors for a long while, but depends how much you want to spend. The ones Tiki gave are also good by looks of it, just giving one I have personally used :D

I know like 6 people who have one lol
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: |Viper| on July 13, 2019, 10:16:32 pm
Ah okay thanks I'll take a look at both of them.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on July 14, 2019, 10:40:45 am
Got my new ram installed running at 3200mhz no issues! And god damn is it beautiful! Also decided to run some benchmarks for the first time after upping my CPU overclock a little bit. And in 3Dmark TimeSpy i got ranked #59 in the world for a 2200G+RX580 score. So that is pretty cool. Now i cant wait to see the numbers i get once i install the 3700x. :D

(https://i.imgur.com/7TsTRuq.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/Tk2H70D.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/TRNIENA.png)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on July 15, 2019, 06:43:37 pm
Wow, these Prime Day deals are actually amazing. Should i just buy the 2700x for $199 instead of waiting for a 3700x at $330? Advice plzzzzz i cant decide what to do.

Here are the best PC component deals i noticed for anyone interested you have like 1-2 days to get these prices:

$199 2700x
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B428M7F/ref=s9_acsd_bw_wf_a_BTSmainw_cdl_22?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-4&pf_rd_r=CVRA2N8X5KTP7W18A9XH&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=06e82be3-68aa-4d3a-9d5e-cf37d12730f4&pf_rd_i=15201447011

$59 Seagate FireCuda 2TB Solid State Hybrid Drive Performance SSHD
https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-FireCuda-Gaming-Accelerated-Performance/dp/B07H2F3741/ref=as_li_ss_tl?keywords=pc%2Bgaming&psr=PDAY&qid=1563195512&s=prime-day-secondary&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sr=1-53&linkCode=sl1&tag=randomfrankp-20&linkId=e37d000ba4e3d8198ee836e197d256f3&language=en_US&th=1

$179 ViewSonic 27 Inch 1080p 1ms 144 Hz Gaming Monitor with FreeSync
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00004YK4I/ref=s9_acsd_bw_wf_a_NREmainw_cdl_19?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-2&pf_rd_r=03Z61TB7SCN6JDXFF24P&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=5f6fd122-c962-401d-a985-35dd3596738b&pf_rd_i=19461899011

$40 Thermaltake Pure Plus 12 RGB TT Premium Edition 3 pack 120mm Fans
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D2N911K/ref=s9_acsd_bw_wf_a_NREmainw_cdl_25?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-2&pf_rd_r=03Z61TB7SCN6JDXFF24P&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=5f6fd122-c962-401d-a985-35dd3596738b&pf_rd_i=19461899011
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: BabyJesus on July 15, 2019, 08:52:57 pm
What does freesync do?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on July 15, 2019, 09:07:54 pm
What does freesync do?
Technology to adapt your monitors refresh rate better to the hardware in your PC, reducing screen tearing and it should help make movement in the image smoother.

Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on July 15, 2019, 09:53:56 pm
https://store.zotac.com/zotac-geforcer-gtx-1080-founders-edition-refurbished-zt-p10800a-10p-r (https://store.zotac.com/zotac-geforcer-gtx-1080-founders-edition-refurbished-zt-p10800a-10p-r)

Is this deal any good?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Dom13WorstNW on July 16, 2019, 03:12:23 am
How does this look? Im new to this so im not entirely sure if this makes sense or not. I dont know if I need a standalone cpu cooler or not. All im looking for in a new pc is something that'll be able to handle 99% of games comfortably for a couple of years.

PCPartPicker Part List (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rQjMBb)

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bddxFT/amd-ryzen-7-2700x-37ghz-8-core-processor-yd270xbgafbox)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright - Le Grand Macho RT 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/B8rcCJ/thermalright-cpu-cooler-legrandmachort)
Motherboard: MSI - B450M MORTAR Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FZvbt6/msi-b450m-mortar-atx-am4-motherboard-b450m-mortar)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MYH48d/corsair-memory-cmk16gx4m2b3000c15) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CbL7YJ/seagate-barracuda-2tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm006) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8 GB FTW ULTRA SILENT GAMING Video Card (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Z6BTwP/evga-geforce-gtx-1070-ti-8gb-ftw-ultra-silent-gaming-video-card-08g-p4-6678-kr)   
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JsKcCJ/fractal-design-meshify-c-mini-dark-tg-microatx-mini-tower-case-fd-ca-mesh-c-mini-bko-tgd)   
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2HbwrH/corsair-rmx-2018-650w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020178-na)   
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wtgPxr/microsoft-os-kw900140)   
Total: $1427.36
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Windflower on July 16, 2019, 03:20:09 am
How does this look? Im new to this so im not entirely sure if this makes sense or not. I dont know if I need a standalone cpu cooler or not. All im looking for in a new pc is something that'll be able to handle 99% of games comfortably for a couple of years.

PCPartPicker Part List (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rQjMBb)

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bddxFT/amd-ryzen-7-2700x-37ghz-8-core-processor-yd270xbgafbox)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright - Le Grand Macho RT 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/B8rcCJ/thermalright-cpu-cooler-legrandmachort)
Motherboard: MSI - B450M MORTAR Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FZvbt6/msi-b450m-mortar-atx-am4-motherboard-b450m-mortar)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MYH48d/corsair-memory-cmk16gx4m2b3000c15) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CbL7YJ/seagate-barracuda-2tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm006) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8 GB FTW ULTRA SILENT GAMING Video Card (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Z6BTwP/evga-geforce-gtx-1070-ti-8gb-ftw-ultra-silent-gaming-video-card-08g-p4-6678-kr)   
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JsKcCJ/fractal-design-meshify-c-mini-dark-tg-microatx-mini-tower-case-fd-ca-mesh-c-mini-bko-tgd)   
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2HbwrH/corsair-rmx-2018-650w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020178-na)   
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wtgPxr/microsoft-os-kw900140)   
Total: $1427.36

It depends if the CPU comes with a cooler or not, usually it does come with the CPU so it's not really totally necessary depending..
you could run 99% of games for the next few years while spending a considerable less amount if that's what you're also looking for
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Dom13WorstNW on July 16, 2019, 03:39:40 am
Yeah ik but the last time I built a pc it was solidly mid tier. It became obsolete relatively quickly which annoyed the hell out of me.

Is there any piece that I'm definitely overspending on?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on July 16, 2019, 04:32:14 am
How does this look? Im new to this so im not entirely sure if this makes sense or not. I dont know if I need a standalone cpu cooler or not. All im looking for in a new pc is something that'll be able to handle 99% of games comfortably for a couple of years.

PCPartPicker Part List (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rQjMBb)

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bddxFT/amd-ryzen-7-2700x-37ghz-8-core-processor-yd270xbgafbox)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright - Le Grand Macho RT 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/B8rcCJ/thermalright-cpu-cooler-legrandmachort)
Motherboard: MSI - B450M MORTAR Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FZvbt6/msi-b450m-mortar-atx-am4-motherboard-b450m-mortar)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MYH48d/corsair-memory-cmk16gx4m2b3000c15) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CbL7YJ/seagate-barracuda-2tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm006) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8 GB FTW ULTRA SILENT GAMING Video Card (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Z6BTwP/evga-geforce-gtx-1070-ti-8gb-ftw-ultra-silent-gaming-video-card-08g-p4-6678-kr)   
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JsKcCJ/fractal-design-meshify-c-mini-dark-tg-microatx-mini-tower-case-fd-ca-mesh-c-mini-bko-tgd)   
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2HbwrH/corsair-rmx-2018-650w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020178-na)   
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wtgPxr/microsoft-os-kw900140)   
Total: $1427.36

Solid build but remove that cpu cooler. You do not need one as the 2700x comes with one and its very good. It also has pre-applied thermal paste i believe. Other then that this system would certainly handle everything like a beast. You could of course go a little cheaper in some areas but that is up to you. I also recommend getting a m.2 nvme ssd for your boot drive. It makes a huge difference. Get that 2700x ASAP on amazon before it sells out or the sale ends. The other parts you can get later, but that deal is to good to pass up.

Also just noticed DO NOT BUY THAT GPU! atleast at that price ffs. Just buy a RTX 2060 Super or RTX 2070 Super. They are both better cards and cheaper.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Dom13WorstNW on July 16, 2019, 05:02:42 am
The GPU was definitely the part that I was the least sure about. I've honestly never heard about the 2070 before but that just shows how little I know about any of this stuff.  I basically built the pc based off what parts I recognized.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Mexican on July 16, 2019, 05:42:31 am
What are some good small monitors (less than 24 inches)?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on July 16, 2019, 12:56:14 pm
The GPU was definitely the part that I was the least sure about. I've honestly never heard about the 2070 before but that just shows how little I know about any of this stuff.  I basically built the pc based off what parts I recognized.
I've helped out quite a few people on here over the years, also sat on Whatsapp with Wastee while he was building his new monster, so sit on Uncle Chriseh's lap while he gives you the run down my boy.

Marceaux was on the money, go for a 2080 or 2080 super over a 1070ti just because they are mostly the same pricing and the 2000 series is obviously a more mature platform.

Remove the CPU cooler and go for a 500GB SSD boot drive: https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-500GB-Internal-MZ-76E500B-AM/dp/B0781Z7Y3S/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=512GB+SSD&qid=1563274257&s=gateway&sr=8-4

Personally I would purchase 2 of those SSD's, one for your boot drive which you will keep mostly clean with that Hard Drive you have, 2TB is more than enough for your general usage and file drive. Then you can use the second one for any games that depend on load times, CS:GO, PUBG, Apex etc. just to name a few.

Marceaux goes abit overboard with the idea of a M.2. As you are a more basic user (making assumptions as you asked the question) you would not benefit from the advantage of having an M.2. They are expensive and more for either people who want their PC to boot in 10 seconds rather than 30 with a normal SSD, or they are running applications like Cinema 4D or Adobe Suit etc.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on July 16, 2019, 05:11:29 pm
Yeah the m.2 nvme might be a tad overkill but for sure at least get some form of SSD to boot because its a game changer. I am just spoiled with my m.2. :P (https://i.imgur.com/t3HcDqS.jpg)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on July 17, 2019, 04:54:34 am
The 2700x sold out. :'(
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on July 24, 2019, 03:04:26 am
Been getting some random FPS drops with audio cutting out and stuttering in multiplayer games (single player is fine) BF5 and Squad mainly. I have tried clean install of my graphic drivers and tons of other stuff and cant seem to figure it out. No overheating on cpu or gpu. Could it be from my CPU overclock or ram overclock? Or is it internet/network related perhaps? FPS will be solid 60+ but will have minor stutters or just almost freeze up for a few milliseconds and FPS will drop to 20-50 and sometimes the audio will cut out with it. I have also noticed my GPU utilization will go from 90-100% to 0-60% mid gameplay pretty frequently. I also ran some ping tests and i get frequent spikes to 300+.

Any help/ideas would be much appreciated!
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on July 24, 2019, 11:37:40 am
Unstable overclock is possible, but unlikely. Normally it would just crash out.

Run your overclock at max power delivery ONLY for a few days and see if that fixes it. It will still max out the core clock as far as it can without the minimum that you set.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on July 24, 2019, 11:26:56 pm
Unstable overclock is possible, but unlikely. Normally it would just crash out.

Run your overclock at max power delivery ONLY for a few days and see if that fixes it. It will still max out the core clock as far as it can without the minimum that you set.

When you say power delivery what are you specifically referring to? A bios setting like core voltage? Or like in my Radeon software power limit%?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on July 25, 2019, 02:16:33 am
Sounds much more likely to be internet related imo, considering it only being in MP plus the spikes to 300+

Do the same things occur on lowest settings, lower resolution etc in the same games?
If so, use ethernet instead of Wifi if you can, or otherwise try to move your router closer to your PC, make sure you're not using 5GHz wifi etc



In other news, User Benchmarks has just changed how they rate CPUs to favour Intel for no apparent reason. Instead of increasing the weighting of multithreaded performance (or even quad) to keep up with the fact that modern titles are utilising more cores more effectively, they've increased the single threaded weighting at the expense of multicore and quadcore weighting. I can only imagine they must have gotten a fat wad of money for it.
Old weightings: Single 30%, Quad 60%, Multi 10%
New weightings: Single 40%, Quad 58%, Multi 2%
https://web.archive.org/web/20190721115323/https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Faq/What-is-the-effective-CPU-speed-index/55
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Faq/What-is-the-effective-CPU-speed-index/55

Edit: It's lead to some pretty funny results, like the chip I used to have (i5 4670k) compared to it's big brother:
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-4770K-vs-Intel-Core-i5-4670K/1537vs1538
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on July 25, 2019, 09:18:21 am
Sounds much more likely to be internet related imo, considering it only being in MP plus the spikes to 300+

Do the same things occur on lowest settings, lower resolution etc in the same games?
If so, use ethernet instead of Wifi if you can, or otherwise try to move your router closer to your PC, make sure you're not using 5GHz wifi etc



In other news, User Benchmarks has just changed how they rate CPUs to favour Intel for no apparent reason. Instead of increasing the weighting of multithreaded performance (or even quad) to keep up with the fact that modern titles are utilising more cores more effectively, they've increased the single threaded weighting at the expense of multicore and quadcore weighting. I can only imagine they must have gotten a fat wad of money for it.
Old weightings: Single 30%, Quad 60%, Multi 10%
New weightings: Single 40%, Quad 58%, Multi 2%
https://web.archive.org/web/20190721115323/https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Faq/What-is-the-effective-CPU-speed-index/55
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Faq/What-is-the-effective-CPU-speed-index/55

Edit: It's lead to some pretty funny results, like the chip I used to have (i5 4670k) compared to it's big brother:
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-4770K-vs-Intel-Core-i5-4670K/1537vs1538

Well it appears i had/have multiple issues which i think i have solved/fixed most of them now. And yes Tiki regardless of my graphic settings being ULTRA or LOW i still got the same drops and issues and it didn't really change my fps much at all when changing graphic settings up or down.

One of my problems was that windows was caching TONS of ram and was never dumping the cache like it should so i set an automated task to run every 5 minutes to dump the memory cache. It seemed to pretty much fix the BF5 issues i was having completely. However in Squad i was still getting issues and still kind of am, however i believe its an issue with Squad not properly utilizing my CPU because like i said regardless of graphic settings i get 60+ fps until these weird stutters and drops come in. And it seems to only happen now when i am on a roof or hillside overlooking a lot of the map etc. Several other players reported these same issue's on a version of the game a few months ago so i am hoping that its just Squad not being fully optimized etc or some dumb bug. However it could be 2200G maxing out and causing the stutters? Squad does recommend a 6+ core cpu.

As far as the internet goes i still get the bad ping spikes and can feel them in games some times. I am on 5G wifi atm, should i switch to the normal wifi channel instead of the 5G one? And if so why exactly is 5G worse then the normal? I always thought the 5G band was meant for gaming and streaming etc. I do have Ethernet i can run but its a bit of a pain to have the cable going through my whole house lol.

I also did shit tons of tweaking/updates and cleaning to windows/bios/radeon etc so i am not positive what actually fixed BF5 lol. However i still feel alot of my games aren't as smooth as they should be, but i am starting to think its because i have been playing on a 55 inch 1080p TV and i think its causing screen tearing etc since the TV cant even come close to keeping up with the FPS my system is trying to output.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on July 25, 2019, 12:44:43 pm
5G internet is faster but has worse connection and gets interrupted more easily, so if you're having connection issues (ie connection dropping) then it's worth using regular. Speed won't be noticeable in games as long as it's above the minimum required, it's more downloads where you'll notice it. Streaming would also require faster speeds but honestly you should be using ethernet if you're doing anything like that.

If the tearing is bad then enable vsync in games that you notice it in. It's not the best but it depends what's more noticeable, lower FPS or screen tearing, and if your TV has a low refresh rate anyway it's worth doing.
Screen tearing is very different to FPS drops though, and also not related to your CPU or GPU.

Personally I'd sort the internet first and then see if it persists.
Also what's your full setup, in particular your GPU?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on July 25, 2019, 05:44:29 pm
Switched to the normal channel and now my ping tests seem much better SO FAR lol. And here is my current config:

CPU - AMD Ryzen 3 2200G 3.9 GHz OC Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler - AMD Wraith Stealth AirCooler
RAM - Team T-Force Delta RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 MHz CL16 Memory
GPU - Sapphire Radeon NITRO+ RX 580 8GB Special Edition
Motherboard - Asus ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4
Power Supply - EVGA BT 450w 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
Storage - Gigabyte 256 GB M.2 NVMe SSD / ADATA Ultimate SU800 512 GB 2.5 SSD
Case - Corsair Carbide Series 275R (White w/Tempered Glass) ATX Mid Tower Case
Fans - 3 Asiahorse RGB Model-X 120mm / 2 Corsair Black 120mm
Windows 10 pro.

Also i started using v-sync in squad and many other titles to test and it does seem to REALLY smooth everything out and i seem to be getting much less tearing and stutters. However i still get them in some games and they still dont seem as smooth as they should.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on July 26, 2019, 10:11:45 pm
Which titles are still sketchy?
Also are you using the latest drivers?

Not really sure what else it could be at this point other than either poorly optimised games or simply your rig can't handle new titles at the resolution and/or graphics settings you're trying. If you turn down the details etc see if it improves, then at least you can see if your rig is up to scratch.
That's about as far as my basic troubleshooting will go though
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on July 28, 2019, 02:20:57 am
Which titles are still sketchy?
Also are you using the latest drivers?

Not really sure what else it could be at this point other than either poorly optimised games or simply your rig can't handle new titles at the resolution and/or graphics settings you're trying. If you turn down the details etc see if it improves, then at least you can see if your rig is up to scratch.
That's about as far as my basic troubleshooting will go though

Mainly just Squad and occasionally BF5 but i need to test on more games. However i think i have got it figured out.

Now here is the important question for you all. Which should i buy?

Ryzen 7 3700x
L Shape Desk


OR

Ryzen 5 3600
L Shape Desk
1ms 144hz Viewsonic 24 inch Monitor


Price is about the same either way. Im leaning towards the CPU desk and monitor but the 3700x is very tempting. What do you guys think i should do?

Also what you all think about this monitor?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07JK6XMSN/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on July 28, 2019, 04:29:53 pm
Any remaining stutter could well be that BF5 and Squad are just a bit much for your CPU and GPU, but I'm just hazarding a guess at this point.


If you're keeping the same GPU (at least for now) there's no reason to get the 3700X as your GPU is going to be the limiting factor, even at 1080p.
Monitors are often slept on when it comes to rigs, so if it's a decent upgrade over what you currently have then I'd go for the 3600, desk and monitor.

As for if that monitor's any good, it's a TN panel, so very good for fast paced games like FPS, racing due to high refresh rate, low latency and Freesync is a nice bonus.
It won't look quite as fancy as an IPS for slower paced games (RTS/grand strategy etc). Depends on what you're playing really.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on July 30, 2019, 06:24:16 pm
Sadly that Viewsonic monitor sold out and the sale ended before i could order. So i ended up going with this MSI one instead. Still 144Hz and 1ms but it is also curved. However its a VA panel so im a little worried about response time etc. But we will see! I got it for $149 after shipping and tax, pretty good deal i think. :D

https://www.msi.com/Monitor/Optix-MAG240VC/Overview
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on July 30, 2019, 11:54:44 pm
Why are you worried about response times? It's 1ms, same as the other monitor. Plenty of monitors have 5ms response times and are completely fine. Looks solid.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on July 31, 2019, 12:15:19 am
Why are you worried about response times? It's 1ms, same as the other monitor. Plenty of monitors have 5ms response times and are completely fine. Looks solid.

Well i did some research after you told me about the TN panel and apparently on VA panels the advertised 1ms response time isnt 100% accurate. As they are using a different measurement for said response time. MPRT response time vs GtG response time. Apparently both are very important but i cant seem to find out the actual GtG response time for the MSI monitor i just bought however its advertised as 1ms MPRT time.

https://www.blurbusters.com/gtg-versus-mprt-frequently-asked-questions-about-display-pixel-response/
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on July 31, 2019, 03:59:57 pm
Oh, interesting, didn't realise that.
I haven't really looked into VA panels at all, mainly IPS vs TN

Being a large brand, it should be pretty solid I'd imagine, but always look at lots of reviews before buying!
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on August 03, 2019, 06:39:13 am
The response time seems to be just fine! And boy oh boy is this thing gorgeous. The picture is absolutely stunning and the curve is actually REALLY nice! And 144Hz is really something else! I am in love... :-*


Also if anyone needs a good newer GPU here is a very good deal on a RX 590 from Sapphire for $190:
https://www.newegg.com/sapphire-radeon-rx-590-100415p8gl/p/N82E16814202333?Description=Sapphire%20Radeon%20PULSE%20RX%20590%208GB%20GDDR5%20PCI-E%20Dual%20HDMI%20%2f%20DVI-D%20%2f%20Dual%20DP%20w%2f%20Backplate&cm_re=Sapphire_Radeon_PULSE_RX_590_8GB_GDDR5_PCI-E_Dual_HDMI_%2f_DVI-D_%2f_Dual_DP_w%2f_Backplate-_-14-202-333-_-Product

Might sell my rx 580 for $150 and buy it myself tbh but ill probably just wait and get a 5700 XT once the partner cards release in the next week or 2. Will likely pair it with a Ryzen 7 3700x and be done with it. Also thinking i might just get a new x570 mobo and use my b450 in a build to sell with my 2200G. :P
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on August 03, 2019, 02:48:41 pm
There's not really any point upgrading your mobo, but whatever floats your boat

And yeah you can get some good money selling parts on ebay, managed to get like 40-45 pounds each for an old GTX 760 and an i5 4670k, which considering they were like 5 years old was pretty sweet
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on August 03, 2019, 06:04:45 pm
There's not really any point upgrading your mobo, but whatever floats your boat

And yeah you can get some good money selling parts on ebay, managed to get like 40-45 pounds each for an old GTX 760 and an i5 4670k, which considering they were like 5 years old was pretty sweet

Yeah it really is a pretty pointless upgrade tbh but i figure since ill have a spare apu and spare ram i might as well just get myself a newer board and use my current one to pair with my extra parts and sell the whole thing for some decent cash. Plus i really want a white motherboard to match the rest of my stuff so will probably get the ASUS Prime x570 board. But idk well see might just get an x470.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on August 05, 2019, 08:39:01 pm
Setup complete! (PC will never be done XD)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PaUP_Ni8zU
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on August 07, 2019, 08:38:29 pm
Just got a wraith prism cooler on ebay for $40 after shipping and tax. Will either pair it with a R7 2700 or a R5 3600. Cant decide...
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Cameron. on August 07, 2019, 09:16:08 pm
thanks for the triple post  :-\
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on August 07, 2019, 09:24:02 pm
thanks for the triple post  :-\

You're welcome! :D
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on August 08, 2019, 04:26:58 pm
If I'm installing SSD's on my workplaces computers, is there a way to straight copy my coworkers' preexisting desktops, programs and all, to the SSD? It would save me some time but it's not a huge deal.

Edit: On a personal note, would I see more change out of 16 gigabytes of faster mhz RAM, say 3200mhz, or adding 16GB more to my existing 16GB RAM clocked at 2666?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on August 08, 2019, 05:08:21 pm
If I'm installing SSD's on my workplaces computers, is there a way to straight copy my coworkers' preexisting desktops, programs and all, to the SSD? It would save me some time but it's not a huge deal.

Edit: On a personal note, would I see more change out of 16 gigabytes of faster mhz RAM, say 3200mhz, or adding 16GB more to my existing 16GB RAM clocked at 2666?

Personally i would add another 16GB and go with 32GB total, i think your overall system performance would be better and nothing will ever come close to maxing your ram. Also i just personally swapped from 2666 to 3200 and i could hardly tell a difference and i am on Ryzen where it should show more then Intel. Also once you get a full 32GB kit just try and overclock the whole kit to 3000+mhz its very easy. RAM overclocking is probably as easy as overclocking gets. Just turn up your ram voltage to 1.35-1.4 and set the speed to 3200mhz with auto timings and see what happens. If system fails to boot just reset until it auto clears or reset with the cmos battery. Then turn down to 3000 etc and keep trying speeds until you get one that is stable. Depending on what RAM brand/kit you have i am sure you will be able to get at least 3000mhz coming from 2666 and you can likely hit 3200+.  And ram as 99% of the high speed kits are just 2400-2666mhz sticks that they overclocked themselves and set it as a xmp profile. For example my Team RGB 16gb kit is actually just 2400mhz sticks with a 3200mhz xmp profile saved on them. But buying nice ram kits gets you guaranteed speeds and usually a little bit better performance.

What ram do you have?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on August 08, 2019, 05:33:50 pm
Spoiler
If I'm installing SSD's on my workplaces computers, is there a way to straight copy my coworkers' preexisting desktops, programs and all, to the SSD? It would save me some time but it's not a huge deal.

Edit: On a personal note, would I see more change out of 16 gigabytes of faster mhz RAM, say 3200mhz, or adding 16GB more to my existing 16GB RAM clocked at 2666?

Personally i would add another 16GB and go with 32GB total, i think your overall system performance would be better and nothing will ever come close to maxing your ram. Also i just personally swapped from 2666 to 3200 and i could hardly tell a difference and i am on Ryzen where it should show more then Intel. Also once you get a full 32GB kit just try and overclock the whole kit to 3000+mhz its very easy. RAM overclocking is probably as easy as overclocking gets. Just turn up your ram voltage to 1.35-1.4 and set the speed to 3200mhz with auto timings and see what happens. If system fails to boot just reset until it auto clears or reset with the cmos battery. Then turn down to 3000 etc and keep trying speeds until you get one that is stable. Depending on what RAM brand/kit you have i am sure you will be able to get at least 3000mhz coming from 2666 and you can likely hit 3200+.  And matter of fact i regret and would never pay for high speed ram again as 99% of the high speed kits are just 2400-2666mhz sticks that they overclocked themselves and set it as a xmp profile. For example my Team RGB 16gb kit is actually just 2400mhz sticks with a 3200mhz xmp profile saved on them. So its almost pointless to pay for higher speed ram kits unless you start getting into certain dies and all that very particular b.s.

What ram do you have?
[close]
I can't find this RAM anywhere for a decent price so that's why I'm debating swapping
https://www.amazon.com/XPG-21300-Memory-Modules-AX4U2666W4G16-DRZ/dp/B00U4S0BKW/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_147_t_0?_encoding=UTF8&refRID=0NJ2QW0T8R3HGGXAJM0C&th=1
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on August 08, 2019, 05:52:47 pm
Ahh i see, then i would probably upgrade. $96 is to much for 8gb of xpg 2666 XD. If you're buying today heres a good deal: https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232476
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on August 08, 2019, 08:31:40 pm
If I'm installing SSD's on my workplaces computers, is there a way to straight copy my coworkers' preexisting desktops, programs and all, to the SSD? It would save me some time but it's not a huge deal.

Edit: On a personal note, would I see more change out of 16 gigabytes of faster mhz RAM, say 3200mhz, or adding 16GB more to my existing 16GB RAM clocked at 2666?
That depends on how much RAM you actually use. If you never go up to your current 16GB limit it you would barely notice anything, bar maybe Windows loading some core objects faster. Considering the price of RAM these days that speed increase would be noticable but not enough for what your paying. If you really want to upgrade, you can just purchase any dual channel memory (thats the same speed) as long as you are running them in dual channel mode for your Mobo, it really doesn't matter if its mixed and matched with another brand frankly. Now if it was server memory thats a different story.

Also if its for work, I couldn't recommend one of these enough:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/StarTech-com-SATA-Drive-Duplicator-Eraser/dp/B00G6TG5YE/ref=sr_1_8?adgrpid=61764844544&gclid=Cj0KCQjwkK_qBRD8ARIsAOteukDpdQP3Tq2bg9otpMtVUPY4MQ_5CzKmZZ-JXL2lgcb-z6Sv6PvUh-saAnnREALw_wcB&hvadid=267291336191&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=1006681&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t2&hvqmt=e&hvrand=13946403756280165517&hvtargid=kwd-318931991262&hydadcr=4426_1795165&keywords=docking+station+startech&qid=1565288653&s=gateway&sr=8-8

Its essentially a 2 port dock which at the press of a button will copy EVERYTHING in the exact same pre existing state from one drive to another. It can also be used to just insert drives and use it as a hard drive dock to copy data, however you like to play it. There is also a button on the back that will erase all data on the drives pretty damn quickly.

I've bought one of these for my last 3 companies I've worked at over the last 5 1/2 years. I consider it to be a necessity as you can always find use out of it. Only limitation is it won't be able to clone from a bigger drive to a smaller one as the sectors will error.

There are various softwares out there although tbh I alternate between them depending on what its for.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on August 08, 2019, 09:31:38 pm
If I'm installing SSD's on my workplaces computers, is there a way to straight copy my coworkers' preexisting desktops, programs and all, to the SSD? It would save me some time but it's not a huge deal.

Edit: On a personal note, would I see more change out of 16 gigabytes of faster mhz RAM, say 3200mhz, or adding 16GB more to my existing 16GB RAM clocked at 2666?
That depends on how much RAM you actually use. If you never go up to your current 16GB limit it you would barely notice anything, bar maybe Windows loading some core objects faster. Considering the price of RAM these days that speed increase would be noticable but not enough for what your paying. If you really want to upgrade, you can just purchase any dual channel memory (thats the same speed) as long as you are running them in dual channel mode for your Mobo, it really doesn't matter if its mixed and matched with another brand frankly. Now if it was server memory thats a different story.

Also if its for work, I couldn't recommend one of these enough:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/StarTech-com-SATA-Drive-Duplicator-Eraser/dp/B00G6TG5YE/ref=sr_1_8?adgrpid=61764844544&gclid=Cj0KCQjwkK_qBRD8ARIsAOteukDpdQP3Tq2bg9otpMtVUPY4MQ_5CzKmZZ-JXL2lgcb-z6Sv6PvUh-saAnnREALw_wcB&hvadid=267291336191&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=1006681&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t2&hvqmt=e&hvrand=13946403756280165517&hvtargid=kwd-318931991262&hydadcr=4426_1795165&keywords=docking+station+startech&qid=1565288653&s=gateway&sr=8-8

Its essentially a 2 port dock which at the press of a button will copy EVERYTHING in the exact same pre existing state from one drive to another. It can also be used to just insert drives and use it as a hard drive dock to copy data, however you like to play it. There is also a button on the back that will erase all data on the drives pretty damn quickly.

I've bought one of these for my last 3 companies I've worked at over the last 5 1/2 years. I consider it to be a necessity as you can always find use out of it. Only limitation is it won't be able to clone from a bigger drive to a smaller one as the sectors will error.

There are various softwares out there although tbh I alternate between them depending on what its for.
So I should be able to transfer from 500GB HDD's to 500GB SSD's or should I aim for a larger SSD to prevent that error?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on August 10, 2019, 01:42:06 pm
A couple things about RAM:

1) RAM will only work at the same speed together. If you've got 1 set which can only get to 2666, buying a set of 3000 will only work up to 2666, so you're wasting money essentially (vs buying a 2nd 2666 kit). Also, RAM is very susceptible to compatibility issues at the best of time, even more so on Ryzen systems, and using 4 sticks of dual channel rather than quad channel (two kits of 2 vs 1 kit of 4 sticks) can be finicky to say the least.
2) More RAM barely helps for gaming past 16GB atm considering the massive extra cost. Much better to spend the money on a better CPU cooler, storage, monitor, whatever else you're looking to upgrade. If you're video encoding or 3D rendering, by all means more RAM will make a big difference, otherwise I'd stick to 16GB.
3) Overclocking RAM is only easy if you're just enabling XMP profiles, while it's technically overclocking it's also not really (as in it's tested and sold to do 3200 for example, it's not about pushing limits per se). If you get into actually pushing past what it's sold for and messing with sub timings then it's often complicated and frustrating, will involve clearing CMOS a lot. You can get a lot out of it, but up to you if the effort's worth it.

Faster RAM is only financially sensible up to about 3200, beyond that its very much diminishing returns.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on August 10, 2019, 03:23:53 pm
If I'm installing SSD's on my workplaces computers, is there a way to straight copy my coworkers' preexisting desktops, programs and all, to the SSD? It would save me some time but it's not a huge deal.

Edit: On a personal note, would I see more change out of 16 gigabytes of faster mhz RAM, say 3200mhz, or adding 16GB more to my existing 16GB RAM clocked at 2666?
That depends on how much RAM you actually use. If you never go up to your current 16GB limit it you would barely notice anything, bar maybe Windows loading some core objects faster. Considering the price of RAM these days that speed increase would be noticable but not enough for what your paying. If you really want to upgrade, you can just purchase any dual channel memory (thats the same speed) as long as you are running them in dual channel mode for your Mobo, it really doesn't matter if its mixed and matched with another brand frankly. Now if it was server memory thats a different story.

Also if its for work, I couldn't recommend one of these enough:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/StarTech-com-SATA-Drive-Duplicator-Eraser/dp/B00G6TG5YE/ref=sr_1_8?adgrpid=61764844544&gclid=Cj0KCQjwkK_qBRD8ARIsAOteukDpdQP3Tq2bg9otpMtVUPY4MQ_5CzKmZZ-JXL2lgcb-z6Sv6PvUh-saAnnREALw_wcB&hvadid=267291336191&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=1006681&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t2&hvqmt=e&hvrand=13946403756280165517&hvtargid=kwd-318931991262&hydadcr=4426_1795165&keywords=docking+station+startech&qid=1565288653&s=gateway&sr=8-8

Its essentially a 2 port dock which at the press of a button will copy EVERYTHING in the exact same pre existing state from one drive to another. It can also be used to just insert drives and use it as a hard drive dock to copy data, however you like to play it. There is also a button on the back that will erase all data on the drives pretty damn quickly.

I've bought one of these for my last 3 companies I've worked at over the last 5 1/2 years. I consider it to be a necessity as you can always find use out of it. Only limitation is it won't be able to clone from a bigger drive to a smaller one as the sectors will error.

There are various softwares out there although tbh I alternate between them depending on what its for.
So I should be able to transfer from 500GB HDD's to 500GB SSD's or should I aim for a larger SSD to prevent that error?
That will be fine.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Cameron. on August 10, 2019, 04:51:25 pm
Someone show me a good PC build for £3000.
I cant build but could learn if its way cheaper.
Need it to play Arma 3 and Bannerlord.
SSD if possible.
love you
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on August 10, 2019, 06:37:46 pm
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/yR9sRJ

You've got almost 600 quid left to choose a nice case, monitor and any other peripheries you want, plus case fans, thermal paste etc. And that's with Win 10 thrown in there too.
Something like this will be relevant for the next 8+ years barring any major leaps in technology which seem pretty unlikely at this point.

Building PCs is honestly easy, it's nerve wracking the first time because everything's expensive but you'd be amazed what you can get away with. This is a bit clickbait-y etc but it's a good demonstration at least:
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDUZRNp4pxg
[close]
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Cameron. on August 10, 2019, 06:53:29 pm
ty m'lord
is there any benefit to having a 16gb gpu or nope
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on August 10, 2019, 08:19:35 pm
Not if you don't do video encoding. The Radeon VII isn't made for gaming in terms of the balance of specs. Unfortunately we're still stuck with nvidia when it comes to the top end cards.

Not to say you wouldn't get more fps out of buying a 2080 ti over a 2080 super, but given the extra 400 pound cost, you're FAR better off spending the extra money on a large, high refresh rate 1440p monitor so you actually appreciate it instead of having 5% more fps on a 1080p 60hz 21"panel.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on August 11, 2019, 01:12:22 am
Love the suggested build tiki, however ide probably go with the new TridentZ NEO 3600mhz as its made and tuned specifically for Ryzen and apparently makes quite a difference. But damn i am jealous of that $3000+ budget for a build. And like tiki said, for sure go with a good monitor of at least 144hz 23-24 inches+ as it will make the whole experience so much better which i just recently learned myself when i got my new monitor.

Trident Z Neo
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232866?Description=trident%20z%20neo&cm_re=trident_z_neo-_-20-232-866-_-Product
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Cameron. on August 11, 2019, 11:20:14 am
Alright ty someone has made a build that looks insane and basically made for Arma, will send it in later.
I deadass play on a tiny TV it looks kind of shit however thats the look I like I sold my old gaming monitor after a few days.
Now I jus need to learn how to build a PC or pay someone to do it and trust they don’t steal it all
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on August 11, 2019, 03:42:26 pm
Made for Ryzen is marketing, you can spend more if you want, but you really won't be getting that much more performance for a fairly hefty price increase. Even with extra frequency and tighter timings it's not worth it imo. Spending an extra 100 pounds on 5-10 fps isn't my idea of value, but to each their own.
Also idk if it changed since yesterday but for some reason the RAM in my list was like 400 quid, obviously don't spend that much, you can get 32Gb for 160-200 pounds depending on timings and frequency.

Also, if you're playing on a TV the refresh rate will be trash, I really can't recommend a good monitor enough, but up to you. Not to mention the lack of detail you'll be getting, so you're actually not even using most of the PC.
Imho, if you're happy with your TV then that's fine, but you won't notice any difference between a 3000 pound PC and whatever you currently have, so I don't really see why you want an insane build.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Cameron. on August 11, 2019, 04:36:34 pm
Insane build to play Arma on ultra tbh and ye idk I’ve added you on steam I’ll send the link to the parts I’m thinking of getting
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on August 11, 2019, 07:10:48 pm
Made for Ryzen is marketing, you can spend more if you want, but you really won't be getting that much more performance for a fairly hefty price increase. Even with extra frequency and tighter timings it's not worth it imo. Spending an extra 100 pounds on 5-10 fps isn't my idea of value, but to each their own.
Also idk if it changed since yesterday but for some reason the RAM in my list was like 400 quid, obviously don't spend that much, you can get 32Gb for 160-200 pounds depending on timings and frequency.

Also, if you're playing on a TV the refresh rate will be trash, I really can't recommend a good monitor enough, but up to you. Not to mention the lack of detail you'll be getting, so you're actually not even using most of the PC.
Imho, if you're happy with your TV then that's fine, but you won't notice any difference between a 3000 pound PC and whatever you currently have, so I don't really see why you want an insane build.

The neo is about the same price. Maybe $10-$20 more depending on the site you buy from. But yeah why get a 3K PC and play on low res, low refresh rate and low response and likely bad colors. Defeats the purpose. And if you like a small screen just get small IPS monitor so you at least get that gorgeous picture.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on August 14, 2019, 07:57:04 pm
Well i finally made up my mind and went with the R5 3600. I am so excited to get this bad boiiii!
And got some Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut paste as well to keep it EXTRA icyyyyy.

(https://i.imgur.com/vPzJbRQ.png)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Cameron. on August 14, 2019, 09:17:22 pm
My new one will be this almost part for part with one or two minor adjustments


i may jus say fuck it and get some jewellery as idk how to build and apparently for this expert it was hard xD

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Camerong1/saved/c98mgs
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on August 14, 2019, 10:20:52 pm
My new one will be this almost part for part with one or two minor adjustments


i may jus say fuck it and get some jewellery as idk how to build and apparently for this expert it was hard xD

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Camerong1/saved/c98mgs

List is private so we cant see it from the link.

I believe just about anyone can build a PC i have literally seen children under 10 years old build them with a little guidance. It seems much more complex then it really is tbh dont be afraid.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Cameron. on August 15, 2019, 02:32:00 am
That’s awkward I’ve been in Scotland for a day or two and here for a week or so longer and only had that link so now I can’t dhare it w you eks de
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Ry@n on August 15, 2019, 03:37:28 pm
Literally get a YouTube video up and follow it
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on August 15, 2019, 10:19:05 pm
I mean I already posted a video showing someone doing everything wrong and still having a functional PC.
If you've ever played with lego you can build a PC. Essentially the only way you do something wrong is dropping things or buying non-compatible parts/not realising you have to flash older mobos to use Zen 2.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on August 16, 2019, 05:47:02 am
If anyone needs a legit Windows 10 key for $13 here you go. I just got mine and it worked instantly without issue.

Use code SStudio for 18% off to get it for $13.
https://www.scdkey.com/microsoft-windows-10-pro-oem-cd-key-global_1227-20.html

;D
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on August 21, 2019, 04:20:11 pm
Thinking of buying this to play Paradox games while I wait for the chunks in between my university classes
https://store.hp.com/us/en/ConfigureView?langId=-1&storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&catEntryId=3074457345619203819&urlLangId=&quantity=1 (https://store.hp.com/us/en/ConfigureView?langId=-1&storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&catEntryId=3074457345619203819&urlLangId=&quantity=1)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on August 21, 2019, 06:13:03 pm
Thinking of buying this to play Paradox games while I wait for the chunks in between my university classes
https://store.hp.com/us/en/ConfigureView?langId=-1&storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&catEntryId=3074457345619203819&urlLangId=&quantity=1 (https://store.hp.com/us/en/ConfigureView?langId=-1&storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&catEntryId=3074457345619203819&urlLangId=&quantity=1)

Its pretty weak man, i would look around more. A 2 core cpu now adays is pretty whack. And the Vega 3 igpu has to be pretty weak. I was on Vega 8 igpu and i was barely playing most stuff. So i really doubt the Vega 3 could do much but idk it might be enough for paradox games. But tbh i am sure you can find a better deal then something HP. Look at Lenovo they usually have really good prices and are decent quality.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on August 21, 2019, 08:38:28 pm
Thinking of buying this to play Paradox games while I wait for the chunks in between my university classes
https://store.hp.com/us/en/ConfigureView?langId=-1&storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&catEntryId=3074457345619203819&urlLangId=&quantity=1 (https://store.hp.com/us/en/ConfigureView?langId=-1&storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&catEntryId=3074457345619203819&urlLangId=&quantity=1)

Its pretty weak man, i would look around more. A 2 core cpu now adays is pretty whack. And the Vega 3 igpu has to be pretty weak. I was on Vega 8 igpu and i was barely playing most stuff. So i really doubt the Vega 3 could do much but idk it might be enough for paradox games. But tbh i am sure you can find a better deal then something HP. Look at Lenovo they usually have really good prices and are decent quality.
Will do
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on August 24, 2019, 04:02:02 am
Finally took some time in Aura sync to get a solid color scheme going instead of rainbow. And wow the wraith prism is gorgeous. So happy with it! Just need 2 more sticks of ram for 32gb total and to fill all 4 dimms with RGB beauty and a new keyboard with proper rgb software for more effects and better colors. Probably also going to get 7 white corsair LL120 rgb fans eventually for ultimate look and even better thermals/airflow. :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-rRD5nlGAE

(https://i.imgur.com/raZ61km.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/iIFJ2z3.jpg)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Gurkha on November 16, 2019, 10:11:09 pm
If anyone needs a legit Windows 10 key for $13 here you go. I just got mine and it worked instantly without issue.

Use code SStudio for 18% off to get it for $13.
https://www.scdkey.com/microsoft-windows-10-pro-oem-cd-key-global_1227-20.html

;D

I tried buying a Windows key with that price, it expired after 1 year.



Should I go with RTX 2060 Super or RTX 2070 for 144hz 1080p gaming?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on November 16, 2019, 10:22:54 pm
If anyone needs a legit Windows 10 key for $13 here you go. I just got mine and it worked instantly without issue.

Use code SStudio for 18% off to get it for $13.
https://www.scdkey.com/microsoft-windows-10-pro-oem-cd-key-global_1227-20.html

;D

I tried buying a Windows key with that price, it expired after 1 year.



Should I go with RTX 2060 Super or RTX 2070 for 144hz 1080p gaming?

2060 Super for sure. $100 cheaper and it is basically the exact same performance as the 2070.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Gurkha on November 23, 2019, 07:13:01 pm
Anyone reckon there will be any GPU's on sale during black friday (EU)?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on November 24, 2019, 12:44:09 am
Anyone reckon there will be any GPU's on sale during black friday (EU)?

I imagine there will be some decent sales on newegg. I would also check the EVGA website as they have alot of good sales pretty frequently. However to my knowledge PC parts are not known to get good black Friday deals like everything else. However i would still keep an eye out. And i am sure Amazon will have some decent sales.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Nock on November 27, 2019, 11:08:52 pm
i have a question:

months ago, i installed a new motherboard and a new cpu BUT by installing the new motherboard i had to do a clean install of windows
thing is, my key wasnt re-usable so now my windows licence isnt active anymore but it doesnt rly bother me, it just stops me from using Word, powerpoint or stuff like that (i dont use them so)

thing is, i purchased a new ssd today and i was wondering how i could put my windows files on it

should i do a clean windows install again ? but then, i wont be able to even boot it since my windows key isnt valid anymore ? or can i just drop the files from my hdd to my new ssd ?

im sorry if it sounds dumb or if my english isnt great, honestly i'm just tired today and i dont know shit about windows licence stuff, i'm just into hardware
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AccursedGull on November 27, 2019, 11:24:21 pm
easiest way would probably be with a cloning tool like Acronis or Clonezilla

Those softwares should also have something like a guide what you have to do
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Nock on November 28, 2019, 01:09:04 am
aight tyyy
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on November 28, 2019, 01:09:26 am
i have a question:

months ago, i installed a new motherboard and a new cpu BUT by installing the new motherboard i had to do a clean install of windows
thing is, my key wasnt re-usable so now my windows licence isnt active anymore but it doesnt rly bother me, it just stops me from using Word, powerpoint or stuff like that (i dont use them so)

thing is, i purchased a new ssd today and i was wondering how i could put my windows files on it

should i do a clean windows install again ? but then, i wont be able to even boot it since my windows key isnt valid anymore ? or can i just drop the files from my hdd to my new ssd ?

im sorry if it sounds dumb or if my english isnt great, honestly i'm just tired today and i dont know shit about windows licence stuff, i'm just into hardware

Ide personally just do a clean install. It will ask you for a key but you can just skip it. And it will boot just fine and work perfectly without one. :)
And if you're just adding an SSD and keeping your HDD it will just add a new drive and you can drag and drop any files you want to move over.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Windflower on November 28, 2019, 05:24:06 am
i have a question:

months ago, i installed a new motherboard and a new cpu BUT by installing the new motherboard i had to do a clean install of windows
thing is, my key wasnt re-usable so now my windows licence isnt active anymore but it doesnt rly bother me, it just stops me from using Word, powerpoint or stuff like that (i dont use them so)

thing is, i purchased a new ssd today and i was wondering how i could put my windows files on it

should i do a clean windows install again ? but then, i wont be able to even boot it since my windows key isnt valid anymore ? or can i just drop the files from my hdd to my new ssd ?

im sorry if it sounds dumb or if my english isnt great, honestly i'm just tired today and i dont know shit about windows licence stuff, i'm just into hardware
lol just use slmgr.vbs in your cmd prompt and it will re-arm/licence your windows
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Nock on November 28, 2019, 08:55:45 am
i have a question:

months ago, i installed a new motherboard and a new cpu BUT by installing the new motherboard i had to do a clean install of windows
thing is, my key wasnt re-usable so now my windows licence isnt active anymore but it doesnt rly bother me, it just stops me from using Word, powerpoint or stuff like that (i dont use them so)

thing is, i purchased a new ssd today and i was wondering how i could put my windows files on it

should i do a clean windows install again ? but then, i wont be able to even boot it since my windows key isnt valid anymore ? or can i just drop the files from my hdd to my new ssd ?

im sorry if it sounds dumb or if my english isnt great, honestly i'm just tired today and i dont know shit about windows licence stuff, i'm just into hardware
lol just use slmgr.vbs in your cmd prompt and it will re-arm/licence your windows
i dont see how it can work if like my licence was an OEM one which is most likely the case since my licence stopped being active when i changed my motherboard
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Gurkha on November 28, 2019, 01:02:45 pm
i have a question:

months ago, i installed a new motherboard and a new cpu BUT by installing the new motherboard i had to do a clean install of windows
thing is, my key wasnt re-usable so now my windows licence isnt active anymore but it doesnt rly bother me, it just stops me from using Word, powerpoint or stuff like that (i dont use them so)

thing is, i purchased a new ssd today and i was wondering how i could put my windows files on it

should i do a clean windows install again ? but then, i wont be able to even boot it since my windows key isnt valid anymore ? or can i just drop the files from my hdd to my new ssd ?

im sorry if it sounds dumb or if my english isnt great, honestly i'm just tired today and i dont know shit about windows licence stuff, i'm just into hardware

If you change components too much, windows will make you buy a new key.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3bezYerYxQ
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: BabyJesus on November 29, 2019, 07:58:31 pm
I was looking to get a new hard drive. Any good deals today or should I wait?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on November 29, 2019, 08:13:19 pm
I was looking to get a new hard drive. Any good deals today or should I wait?

SSD:
https://www.newegg.com/patriot-burst-240gb/p/N82E16820225082

HDD's/SSHD's
https://www.newegg.com/seagate-firecuda-1tb-st1000lx015/p/N82E16822179111?Item=N82E16822179111

https://www.newegg.com/seagate-firecuda-st2000dx002-2tb-mlc/p/N82E16822178996?Item=N82E16822178996

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16822236339?Item=N82E16822236339

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16822235012?Item=N82E16822235012
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Gurkha on November 29, 2019, 10:06:36 pm
I hate how newegg doesn't include VAT until you go to the product page...
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Harford on December 29, 2019, 01:30:21 am
yo yo yo please i need some help

so im thinking of upgrading my pc components as some of them are a bit old but i cant understand shit about the motherboard, sockets and such
do i need to change my motherboard if im considering changing my RAM (from 8Go to 16Go), my internal hard drive and probably my processor ?
currently got an i5 4460 that aged a bit and i believe my gtx 970 is still good enough for the time being

but if you have any advice or tips feel free to tell
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on December 29, 2019, 01:33:02 am
yo yo yo please i need some help

so im thinking of upgrading my pc components as some of them are a bit old but i cant understand shit about the motherboard, sockets and such
do i need to change my motherboard if im considering changing my RAM (from 8Go to 16Go), my internal hard drive and probably my processor ?
currently got an i5 4460 that aged a bit and i believe my gtx 970 is still good enough for the time being

but if you have any advice or tips feel free to tell

What motherboard do you have specifically?

Also you can probably raise your ram to 16gb. But again depends on the mobo. And you will almost certainly need a new motherboard if you want a new processor.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Harford on December 29, 2019, 01:38:22 am
from what i could find using the cmd.exe it's a "ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.  H97-PLUS", idk if thats enough informations :c
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on December 29, 2019, 01:58:49 am
from what i could find using the cmd.exe it's a "ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.  H97-PLUS", idk if thats enough informations :c

Yeah you can upgrade to 16gb of ddr3 ram. However, you will need a new motherboard if you want a new cpu.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Harford on December 29, 2019, 02:11:21 am
alright ty man
any advice for a mothermoard ? or does it depends on the cpu i want?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on December 29, 2019, 02:50:02 am
alright ty man
any advice for a mothermoard ? or does it depends on the cpu i want?

Yeah motherboard depends on the CPU you want.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on December 29, 2019, 12:59:42 pm
Harford yes you'll want to change your motherboard, CPU and unfortunately that means getting new RAM as well. Your GPU is fine and you can upgrade that easily at any time in the future as they swap in and out easily.

It depends a lot on your budget and what you use it for, but for gaming a B450 motherboard with a Ryzen 5 2600X with 16Gb 3000MHz RAM is a solid starting point with plenty of options for easy upgrades in future. If you've got more money you could look into an X570 board with a 3600X or 3700X.

In terms of storage get an SSD and make sure you install your operating system on it if you don't already have it on an SSD. It's the biggest difference you'll notice day to day in terms of speed.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Harford on December 29, 2019, 02:59:13 pm
alright ty man
any advice for a mothermoard ? or does it depends on the cpu i want?

Yeah motherboard depends on the CPU you want.

alright ty man!

Harford yes you'll want to change your motherboard, CPU and unfortunately that means getting new RAM as well. Your GPU is fine and you can upgrade that easily at any time in the future as they swap in and out easily.

It depends a lot on your budget and what you use it for, but for gaming a B450 motherboard with a Ryzen 5 2600X with 16Gb 3000MHz RAM is a solid starting point with plenty of options for easy upgrades in future. If you've got more money you could look into an X570 board with a 3600X or 3700X.

In terms of storage get an SSD and make sure you install your operating system on it if you don't already have it on an SSD. It's the biggest difference you'll notice day to day in terms of speed.

yeah i already have the OS on the ssd dw its really more about the internal hard drive which is almost full, feelsbad today's games takes minimum 50Go each.
currently looking at motherboard and stuff and its pretty hard to find what is compatible with what, i'll have a look about your suggestions ty aswell!
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on December 29, 2019, 08:18:21 pm
alright ty man
any advice for a mothermoard ? or does it depends on the cpu i want?

Yeah motherboard depends on the CPU you want.

alright ty man!

Harford yes you'll want to change your motherboard, CPU and unfortunately that means getting new RAM as well. Your GPU is fine and you can upgrade that easily at any time in the future as they swap in and out easily.

It depends a lot on your budget and what you use it for, but for gaming a B450 motherboard with a Ryzen 5 2600X with 16Gb 3000MHz RAM is a solid starting point with plenty of options for easy upgrades in future. If you've got more money you could look into an X570 board with a 3600X or 3700X.

In terms of storage get an SSD and make sure you install your operating system on it if you don't already have it on an SSD. It's the biggest difference you'll notice day to day in terms of speed.

yeah i already have the OS on the ssd dw its really more about the internal hard drive which is almost full, feelsbad today's games takes minimum 50Go each.
currently looking at motherboard and stuff and its pretty hard to find what is compatible with what, i'll have a look about your suggestions ty aswell!

Use https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ it will only let you pick parts that are compatible and makes it very simple.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on January 23, 2020, 08:35:38 am
Thinking of buying this to play Paradox games while I wait for the chunks in between my university classes
https://store.hp.com/us/en/ConfigureView?langId=-1&storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&catEntryId=3074457345619203819&urlLangId=&quantity=1 (https://store.hp.com/us/en/ConfigureView?langId=-1&storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&catEntryId=3074457345619203819&urlLangId=&quantity=1)

Its pretty weak man, i would look around more. A 2 core cpu now adays is pretty whack. And the Vega 3 igpu has to be pretty weak. I was on Vega 8 igpu and i was barely playing most stuff. So i really doubt the Vega 3 could do much but idk it might be enough for paradox games. But tbh i am sure you can find a better deal then something HP. Look at Lenovo they usually have really good prices and are decent quality.
Will do

Here you go!
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Vega-HDMI-720p-Front-RAM-FHD-Black-8GB-display-AMD-Tuned-Radeon-14-Ryzen-THX-Graphics-IR-SSD-Laptop-MOTILE-5-Spatial-256GB-8-Performance-Audio-HD-Cam/587143396?selected=true
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: William on January 23, 2020, 10:15:44 pm
Thinking of buying this to play Paradox games while I wait for the chunks in between my university classes
https://store.hp.com/us/en/ConfigureView?langId=-1&storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&catEntryId=3074457345619203819&urlLangId=&quantity=1 (https://store.hp.com/us/en/ConfigureView?langId=-1&storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&catEntryId=3074457345619203819&urlLangId=&quantity=1)

Its pretty weak man, i would look around more. A 2 core cpu now adays is pretty whack. And the Vega 3 igpu has to be pretty weak. I was on Vega 8 igpu and i was barely playing most stuff. So i really doubt the Vega 3 could do much but idk it might be enough for paradox games. But tbh i am sure you can find a better deal then something HP. Look at Lenovo they usually have really good prices and are decent quality.
Will do

Here you go!
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Vega-HDMI-720p-Front-RAM-FHD-Black-8GB-display-AMD-Tuned-Radeon-14-Ryzen-THX-Graphics-IR-SSD-Laptop-MOTILE-5-Spatial-256GB-8-Performance-Audio-HD-Cam/587143396?selected=true
Shame, I needed that 6 months ago! I just got a simple acer laptop with an SSD that suits my note taking needs well. Thanks though
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Azwad on February 06, 2020, 07:51:10 am
No matter how great is your PC, unless you have extremely good fans for cooling it :-X. I will recommend you to keep you PC cool by adding a mixure of both High CFM fans as well as High static pressure fans. There's tons of reviews out there on the internet.
You can also check this review:
https://10scopes.com/case-fans/ (https://10scopes.com/case-fans/)
I found this list of different sized fans quite useful.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on February 06, 2020, 08:41:06 am
Not only did nobody ask for this message it's also factually incorrect.

Is this reddit?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on April 05, 2020, 05:46:54 pm
What would be the best setup for me? I want to be able to play games maxed out graphics with a very high fps so there is no lag and I will also be doing some (not that much) video editing and quite a lot photoshopping. I got this setup. But I don't know for which one I must go. Someone on Steam helped me a big deal, and also on a forum they suggested me a setup. But now I ask myself what is the best for me. My budget is 4.000 euros maximum.

i9-9900K + Dark Rock Pro 4 (with Prolimatech PK-3)
Asus ROG Strix Z390-E Gaming
32GB DDR4-3600 G.Skill Trident Z Neo
Asus RoG Strix 2080 Ti 11GB
Gigabyte Aorus GEN4 2TB
Samsung 860 QVO 4TB
Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium 850W
Fractal Design Define 7 Dark (Tempered Glass)
3x be quiet! Silent Wings 3 PWM (for the case)
Windows 10 64 Bit

Edit: Gaming will way far outweigh the video editing and using photoshop. I also heard the 9900k was also one of the best CPU's for gaming.

I appreciate all the help.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: lonedoge on April 05, 2020, 08:31:56 pm
Apparently the 9900k runs hot so I think it might be a good thing to consider liquid cooling. This is just what I heard when searching for upgrades and im no expert
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on April 05, 2020, 08:32:53 pm
Apparently the 9900k runs hot so I think it might be a good thing to consider liquid cooling. This is just what I heard when searching for upgrades and im no expert
Yeah I was afraid this was gonna be an issue. Are there any liquid coolers that work silent and effective?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Lone on April 05, 2020, 09:09:21 pm
My current build:

Fractal Define R6 black - Glass
AMD Ryzen 5 2600X (6x 3.6GHz / 4.2GHz Turbo)
Standard AMD Box Fan
MSI X470 Gaming Pro
16GB DDR4 (2x8GB) G.Skill DDR4 3200MHz TridentZ RGB
250GB Crucial MX500 M.2 SATA-SSD (L 560MB/s ; S 510MB/s)
1000GB SATA 6GB/s 7200rpm
8GB MSI GTX1070Ti GAMING
500W BeQuiet PurePower 10

I also replaced the tower-fan with the corsair ll140 rgb and I really like it. Furthermore got a 500 gb crucial mx500 ssd (not the M2 version).

Nothing too crazy at all, but handles everything really good and doesn´t get too hot. Next upgrade will probably be a better cpu fan, a new monitor and earlier or later a new gpu.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on April 05, 2020, 11:43:18 pm
What would be the best setup for me? I want to be able to play games maxed out graphics with a very high fps so there is no lag and I will also be doing some (not that much) video editing and quite a lot photoshopping. I got this setup. But I don't know for which one I must go. Someone on Steam helped me a big deal, and also on a forum they suggested me a setup. But now I ask myself what is the best for me. My budget is 4.000 euros maximum.

Spoiler
i9-9900K + Dark Rock Pro 4 (with Prolimatech PK-3)
Asus ROG Strix Z390-E Gaming
32GB DDR4-3600 G.Skill Trident Z Neo
Asus RoG Strix 2080 Ti 11GB
Gigabyte Aorus GEN4 2TB
Samsung 860 QVO 4TB
Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium 850W
Fractal Design Define 7 Dark (Tempered Glass)
3x be quiet! Silent Wings 3 PWM (for the case)
Windows 10 64 Bit
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Edit: Gaming will way far outweigh the video editing and using photoshop. I also heard the 9900k was also one of the best CPU's for gaming.

I appreciate all the help.

I updated my settings.

i9-9900KS + Dark Rock Pro 4 (with Prolimatech PK-3)
Asus ROG Strix Z390-E Gaming
G.Skill Trident Z Neo 64GB 4x16 DDR4-3600 CL16
Asus RoG Strix 2080 Ti 11GB
Gigabyte Aorus GEN4 2TB
SanDisk Ultra 3D 4TB
Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium 850W
Fractal Vector RS Dark Tempered Glass
3x be quiet! Silent Wings 3 PWM (for the case)
Windows 10 64 Bit
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on April 06, 2020, 03:25:19 am
Cases are very subjective in terms of how you priorities aesthetics vs temperature and noise, but I would say that this will run very hot; this case has pretty poor airflow, plus having a very hot CPU on an air cooler. Remember that air coolers use the air already inside the case to cool the CPU, so as the air gets heated up inside the case from the CPU and GPU the cooling becomes less efficient. Low air turnover inside the case means it heats up more.
For that reason if you do go with a 9900KS I'd strongly recommend a 360mm radiator, the TDP on that thing is insane. Honestly I'd stick with a 9900KF if you're set on Intel. If you're willing to spend that much money on a CPU you need to be willing to spend a lot on cooling if needed.

I'm not sure that the Z390 boards can use Gen 4 PCIe, I was under the impression that it was a new feature on only x570 (AMD) boards at the moment, but I could be wrong. Either way I wouldn't go for Gen 4 SSDs as they run much hotter, are less stable at high temperatures and you genuinely will not notice the difference in speed; storage drives almost never actually reach full speed for any significant length of time. Crystalmark benchmark max speeds do not translate well into real world performance.
I'm glad to see you dropped the Samsung QVO from your initial list, they have significantly shorter lifespans than the EVOs (QLC in general is worse than TLC) which is one of the trade-offs to make them cheaper.

One other thing I would say is remember to save some budget for a monitor. Your PC might be generating 50000 FPS but if your monitor is a 1080p 60hz old wreck you'll miss out on 99% of the benefits of the new PC.
Happy to give a few basic points on that front or direct you towards some youtubers with a lot more knowledge than myself.


Whatever parts you end up using, good luck and enjoy it!
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on April 08, 2020, 10:19:38 am
I am finally out of the dilemma. Thank you MrTiki for your informational messages. They helped me a lot! :)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on April 13, 2020, 08:06:37 pm
Sorry for the double post, but does anyone know a good budget keyboard with a wrist rest included?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on April 13, 2020, 09:14:47 pm
Sorry for the double post, but does anyone know a good budget keyboard with a wrist rest included?
Like I say to everyone for PC related stuff, better to post your actual budget first.

What price range are you looking at?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on April 13, 2020, 09:29:40 pm
Around 50 to 70 euros.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on April 14, 2020, 02:22:56 am
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-Membrane-Programmable-Backlighting-Multimedia/dp/B01N3ML307/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=corsair+k55&qid=1586823689&sr=8-3

You won't get a mechanical keyboard thats half decent for that price, but something like that will do.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on April 14, 2020, 08:42:22 am
Around 50 to 70 euros.

Used this at my friends, feels alot like an actual mech board and is very nice actually.
https://www.amazon.com/Razer-Ornata-Chroma-Mecha-Membrane-Individually/dp/B01LVTI3TO

Little more expensive but a very good board. Fully mechanical and high quality parts.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07YMHGP86/ref=twister_B085QJSSQZ?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Rikkert on April 14, 2020, 12:00:49 pm
Id say putting the extra bit of money in to get a proper mechanical keyboard is definitely worth it. You'd be looking at around a 100 euros tho. I've had mine for 4 years or so and I've only had one keycap break cuz of tear (my push to talk button). Typing with mechanical keys is such an improvement over normal keyboards as well, I'd highly recommend it if you can afford spending the extra bit of cash.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on April 14, 2020, 02:12:46 pm
I mean his budget was 4000 euros for his PC so he can definitely afford to get a mechanical keyboard.
I also have one and highly recommend it
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Rikkert on April 14, 2020, 03:46:39 pm
I mean his budget was 4000 euros for his PC so he can definitely afford to get a mechanical keyboard.
I also have one and highly recommend it
Ah didn't see that. Yeah he should 100% buy a good mechanical keyboard then.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on April 14, 2020, 03:48:56 pm
Yeah, I did some research online and everyone indeed says mechanical is best. I didn't know there was such a big difference.

What keyboard you guys recommend? Preferable to have a wrist rest if possible.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Rikkert on April 14, 2020, 04:22:04 pm
Yeah, I did some research online and everyone indeed says mechanical is best. I didn't know there was such a big difference.

What keyboard you guys recommend? Preferable to have a wrist rest if possible.
I'd figure out what type of switches you want first. It really depends on the person.

https://www.dygma.com/mechanical-switches/the-ultimate-guide-to-mechanical-keyboard-switches-for-2019/

You don't need to read this whole guide, it's just to give u an idea of the differences. It was the first that popped up when I googled Mechanical Keyboard Switches.

I don't have a good number of keyboards to recommend as I've only ever used the one I'm using right now. Which is the Logitech G610 with Brown Switches. But it doesn't have an armrest, and I can't find it on any reputable online stores right now so they might've stopped making them.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on April 14, 2020, 04:29:02 pm
It's actually quite interesting though. I'll take a look thank you. :)

Yeah if there isn't any armrest keyboard anymore I'll try to find a solution for a more softer underground.

Edit: After reading the page and see some YouTube videos, I think I might go with the Cherry Red MX switches. But I don't know any good keyboards that use those. :c
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on April 15, 2020, 03:51:08 am
It's actually quite interesting though. I'll take a look thank you. :)

Yeah if there isn't any armrest keyboard anymore I'll try to find a solution for a more softer underground.

Edit: After reading the page and see some YouTube videos, I think I might go with the Cherry Red MX switches. But I don't know any good keyboards that use those. :c

You can never go wrong with ducky.

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=5800

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=5801

I personally just ordered the TKL. Could not be happier. You can choose your switch type. ;D
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on April 15, 2020, 05:20:05 am
And here I am who never bothered to pay more than €10 for a keyboard  ;D
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Rutger Müller on April 15, 2020, 07:13:09 am
is it just me or does anyone else hate the small ass custom keyboard trend where its basically un-usable if you're doing anything other than gaming, and even there its limited. maybe if your desk is extremely small but still. that shit look hella retarded
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on April 15, 2020, 07:44:01 am
And here I am who never bothered to pay more than €10 for a keyboard  ;D
Explains alot...

Wait what who said dat!!!
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Elias on April 15, 2020, 11:16:18 am
And here I am who never bothered to pay more than €10 for a keyboard  ;D

i am using a keyboard which a friend of mine stole out of the school, so same shit :c
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Fwuffy on April 15, 2020, 11:29:20 am
wireless or riot
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on April 15, 2020, 11:45:51 am
What do you guys think about the Corsair K70 RGB MK.2?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on April 15, 2020, 12:22:07 pm
What do you guys think about the Corsair K70 RGB MK.2?
Its great. I went from a K95 to a K70 around 2 years ago.

Using Cherry MX Speed switches that register a click faster than the reds. So if you care about that then I can't recommend it enough.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on April 15, 2020, 12:23:16 pm
Nice, thanks. I'll go with this one then. :D
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on April 15, 2020, 12:32:54 pm
Nice, thanks. I'll go with this one then. :D
No worries. P.S just read your PM XD
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on April 15, 2020, 01:10:13 pm
Nice, thanks. I'll go with this one then. :D
No worries. P.S just read your PM XD
Are you using internet explorer? :O
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on April 15, 2020, 01:24:47 pm
wat no
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on April 15, 2020, 01:32:53 pm
wat no
doesn't get teh joke XD
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on April 15, 2020, 06:25:04 pm
What do you guys think about the Corsair K70 RGB MK.2?
Its great. I went from a K95 to a K70 around 2 years ago.

Using Cherry MX Speed switches that register a click faster than the reds. So if you care about that then I can't recommend it enough.

I heard silvers feel alot different since the switches have less travel distance. Like you dont push the key down as much. Which kind of worries me since i just ordered silvers on my ducky board. What do you think chriseh? Is it that much different then a blue or red? Because i have felt some Logitech keys that barely go down when pressed and i hated it. So i dont want the silvers to feel like that. I currently have blue switches and have felt reds.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on May 10, 2020, 03:11:26 pm
This the guy who sent me my pc in a video. Wednesday the store will be open so I’m able to pick it up. Hypee

(https://i.imgur.com/6UjJEWd.mp4)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Rutger Müller on May 13, 2020, 09:40:00 pm
Just Built
Asus Prime X570-P
Ryzen 7 3700x
RTX 2070 Super
16gb Gskill Ripjaws 3200mhz
Corsair RM750x
Fractal Design Meshify C case

also got a Razer Viper Ultimate wireless
and Steelseries arctis 7 wireless
and this keyboard because its called the fucking blademaster 8)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07H7H7VCY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Cameron. on May 14, 2020, 01:22:03 am
This the guy who sent me my pc in a video. Wednesday the store will be open so I’m able to pick it up. Hypee

(https://i.imgur.com/6UjJEWd.mp4)
review or riot
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Fartknocker on May 16, 2020, 08:02:09 pm
Anyone wanna donate their old PC to the needy?  :'(
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Sanders on May 29, 2020, 10:14:02 pm
Anyone wanna donate their old PC to the needy?  :'(
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on June 08, 2020, 10:52:28 pm
I'm thinking of buying the SteelSeries Arctis Pro RGB Headset. Is this a good one? I want a very high quality sounding wired gaming headset with good bass. My budget for a headset is max 150 euros. I found a place I could get this one new for 140.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on June 09, 2020, 08:24:32 pm
I'm thinking of buying the SteelSeries Arctis Pro RGB Headset. Is this a good one? I want a very high quality sounding wired gaming headset with good bass. My budget for a headset is max 150 euros. I found a place I could get this one new for 140.

Its very good i like mine alot!
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on June 09, 2020, 08:32:07 pm
personally i wouldn't pay the extra money for RGB
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on June 09, 2020, 08:38:20 pm
personally i wouldn't pay the extra money for RGB
To be honest its on every Arctis Pro version, only the wireless does not have it, but it's also much more expensive.

Nice, thanks for telling me Marceaux. I already ordered it a few hours ago. :D
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on June 10, 2020, 08:23:58 pm
personally i wouldn't pay the extra money for RGB
To be honest its on every Arctis Pro version, only the wireless does not have it, but it's also much more expensive.

Nice, thanks for telling me Marceaux. I already ordered it a few hours ago. :D

Awesome! You should enjoy it. Very comfortable and the sound quality is great. I've also had people with much more expensive mics (blue yeti/snowball) etc tell me that my mic sounds just as good if not better then many high end standalone microphones. :D
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on June 10, 2020, 08:27:48 pm
I've been thinking about buying the Arctis Pro Wireless for a while, but getting rid of my Sennheiser HD 650's feels like a waste. They are so good.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on June 10, 2020, 08:34:08 pm
personally i wouldn't pay the extra money for RGB
To be honest its on every Arctis Pro version, only the wireless does not have it, but it's also much more expensive.

Nice, thanks for telling me Marceaux. I already ordered it a few hours ago. :D

Awesome! You should enjoy it. Very comfortable and the sound quality is great. I've also had people with much more expensive mics (blue yeti/snowball) etc tell me that my mic sounds just as good if not better then many high end standalone microphones. :D
Awesome! Is the surround sound quality good on it? Because I'm also an FPS player and it's kinda important to know where everyone is coming from. :P
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Rutger Müller on June 10, 2020, 08:41:39 pm
anyone here use a wireless mouse? I have the Razer Viper and its a game changer
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Fartknocker on June 10, 2020, 08:54:17 pm
anyone here use a wireless mouse? I have the Razer Viper and its a game changer

I thought wireless mouses were bad for gaming cause of a delay or whatever
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on June 10, 2020, 09:11:45 pm
anyone here use a wireless mouse? I have the Razer Viper and its a game changer

I thought wireless mouses were bad for gaming cause of a delay or whatever
latency is basically the same as a wired mouse now. Theres almost no reasons to not use a wireless.

I use the Rival 650 but I almost bought a Viper recently.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on June 11, 2020, 11:25:04 am
Headset is arrived. Aw yes.

Big image
(https://i.imgyukle.com/2020/06/11/ydYzFx.jpg)
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Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Shadey on June 11, 2020, 10:16:48 pm
Headset is arrived. Aw yes.

Big image
(https://i.imgyukle.com/2020/06/11/ydYzFx.jpg)
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How dare you not get the Pro X  >:( ;)

Looks v nice though
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on June 11, 2020, 10:18:12 pm
Yeah, I just tested it and its freakin insane. Happy I bought it. Surround sound 7.1 works really well on here.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on June 12, 2020, 03:16:49 am
anyone here use a wireless mouse? I have the Razer Viper and its a game changer

I just got the Logitech g pro and I'm more than happy
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Rutger Müller on June 12, 2020, 05:52:24 am
anyone here use a wireless mouse? I have the Razer Viper and its a game changer

I just got the Logitech g pro and I'm more than happy
those ones hurt my ears for some reason

I got the arctis wireless and its pretty good because no cords get in the way but not as comfortable as the hyperx clouds
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Rikkert on June 12, 2020, 12:10:02 pm
Am I the only ond that doesn't understand the wireless mouse hype? I also have the Logitech g pro wireless (fwuffy and fralla recommended it to me).  It's a great mouse, but I just keep it corded at all times. The cord never gets in the way for me, and I cba recharging it (even though it doesn't need to charge that often).
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on June 12, 2020, 12:58:17 pm
Am I the only ond that doesn't understand the wireless mouse hype? I also have the Logitech g pro wireless (fwuffy and fralla recommended it to me).  It's a great mouse, but I just keep it corded at all times. The cord never gets in the way for me, and I cba recharging it (even though it doesn't need to charge that often).
I also like wired mouses better aswell as wired headphones and headsets. It's probably more comfortable but I guess if you are sitting at a desk it's not much of a problem. I feel like wireless should be used on consoles for maximum comfort.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Fwuffy on June 12, 2020, 02:02:53 pm
Am I the only ond that doesn't understand the wireless mouse hype? I also have the Logitech g pro wireless (fwuffy and fralla recommended it to me).  It's a great mouse, but I just keep it corded at all times. The cord never gets in the way for me, and I cba recharging it (even though it doesn't need to charge that often).
well you have to consider that you're using an insanely high sens for everything so the cord doesn't get in your way as much as it does for me, that's the entire reason i made the switch coz it kept on getting in the way as im swiping madly across the desk
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Golden. on June 12, 2020, 06:50:57 pm
Am I the only ond that doesn't understand the wireless mouse hype? I also have the Logitech g pro wireless (fwuffy and fralla recommended it to me).  It's a great mouse, but I just keep it corded at all times. The cord never gets in the way for me, and I cba recharging it (even though it doesn't need to charge that often).
well you have to consider that you're using an insanely high sens for everything so the cord doesn't get in your way as much as it does for me, that's the entire reason i made the switch coz it kept on getting in the way as im swiping madly across the desk
The freedom of a wireless mouse is very surprising to those who have been using wired for so many years. I found it to be quite liberating.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on June 12, 2020, 07:27:51 pm
Golden pretty much said it for me :P

You don't know till you know.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Rikkert on June 12, 2020, 08:45:43 pm
Well as I said I have a wireless mouse and feel no difference at all. But fwuffy is probs right.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on June 12, 2020, 08:51:32 pm
anyone here use a wireless mouse? I have the Razer Viper and its a game changer

I just got the Logitech g pro and I'm more than happy
those ones hurt my ears for some reason

I got the arctis wireless and its pretty good because no cords get in the way but not as comfortable as the hyperx clouds

I'm talking about a wireless mouse, not headphones xd
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Rutger Müller on June 12, 2020, 10:12:14 pm
anyone here use a wireless mouse? I have the Razer Viper and its a game changer

I just got the Logitech g pro and I'm more than happy
those ones hurt my ears for some reason

I got the arctis wireless and its pretty good because no cords get in the way but not as comfortable as the hyperx clouds

I'm talking about a wireless mouse, not headphones xd
lol... idk why I thought about a headset when i just said mouse
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on June 13, 2020, 12:29:45 am
I use the glorious model O with the ascended cable and a bungee, and it feels completely wireless to me. But i have heard great things about the gpro. But i cant see myself switching from the model O. I love the ultralight weight and form to much.

If i wanted anything to be wireless it would be my headset. Because having to take it off every time i get up etc is really annoying. Plus my cable always gets wrapped around my chair armrests and drives me crazy. It will probably be my next PC related purchase actually.



personally i wouldn't pay the extra money for RGB
To be honest its on every Arctis Pro version, only the wireless does not have it, but it's also much more expensive.

Nice, thanks for telling me Marceaux. I already ordered it a few hours ago. :D

Awesome! You should enjoy it. Very comfortable and the sound quality is great. I've also had people with much more expensive mics (blue yeti/snowball) etc tell me that my mic sounds just as good if not better then many high end standalone microphones. :D
Awesome! Is the surround sound quality good on it? Because I'm also an FPS player and it's kinda important to know where everyone is coming from. :P

I am sure you have already heard for yourself now! But yes i think the surround is very good. I also bought this headset for CS and use it in league and it never fails me.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on June 13, 2020, 09:07:56 am
Yeah, I was using it for Battlefield 4 and it drastically improved my focus, score and even K/D. It’s awesome. :P
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Fartknocker on June 13, 2020, 06:13:44 pm
I use HyperX Cloud II’s and they’re great but my biggest problem is I can’t hear myself talk. So I find myself yelling when I don’t have to sometimes especially in games like Squad where there’s so much noise going on. Is it worth it to upgrade headphones over that small problem?

Also any good cheap mouse recommendations?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on June 13, 2020, 06:19:14 pm
Isn't there some software you can download to edit all this? I know my headset has a GameDAC and it let's you access this feature that you can hear yourself talk.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on June 20, 2020, 12:27:05 pm
So since B550 launch is kinda.. lacking.. and since B450's will support Ryzen's 4th gen, what should I really look into? I'm planning to get probably a Ryzen 7 4xxx once it's out and then upgrade to 5th gen with that promising 5nm architecture.

So really it is about taking in mind entry-level x570's vs something like B550 aorus pro which are around the same price point, vs cheaper alternative B450's, which are unlikely to support 5th gen Ryzens.

Is PCIe 4 something I really need? I don't think I will ever utilize the full potential of M.2 NVMe drives, so probably not? Which sorta indicates that realistically I should look into B450 vs B550, which means it's all about the forward compatibility with 5th gen Ryzens.

What are your thoughts?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on June 21, 2020, 03:34:23 am
As a b450 user, I say you definitely need to go with b550 or x570. Unless on a tiny budget. I’ll edit with some reasons later but on my phone right now.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on June 21, 2020, 03:35:20 pm
You don't need PCIe gen 4 support tbh, while you can technically make use of the faster speed you a) won't notice the difference, and b) a lot of the time you'll be more CPU bound loading games etc than storage bottlenecked assuming you're going to use NVMe either way.
B550 are the better value for money, there are some that have better VRMs (for overclocking) than the entry X570 boards and most of the other features aren't really that important. They should come down a bit in price before too long. That being said pretty sure 5th gen ryzen won't be on AM4 so you'll need a new motherboard for it.

If you want a new PC now with the goal of upgrading to Ryzen 4xxx later once prices come down or 2nd hand are available, I'd go for a 3300X as they're excellent value for money and in most game don't really bottleneck your GPU even up to a 2080 unless you're at like 1080p on medium settings. Games are so much more GPU than CPU intensive nowadays.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on June 22, 2020, 12:55:16 am
As Tiki said, it really depends on your plans for the future and your current situation. However if you plan to use 4th gen ryzen you certainly need to go with at least b550. Because they have already stopped supporting b450. So no more updates and fixes/improvements etc for b450. And i already have some problems using 3rd gen ryzen on my b450 board. So i imagine 4th gen will have some real problems on b450 if it works at all. Also the vrms on the b550 and x570 boards are VASTLY superior to b450. So you will get better performance out of any cpu you put in the new boards. They also have alot of other features that are nice to have although not necessary.

The big thing is the continued support and better vrms and cooling. Also i wouldn't even worry or think about 5th gen ryzen. Especially since you are saying you will want a "Ryzen 7 4700x" or whatever they end up calling it. a Ryzen 7 4700x will be an amazing cpu and wouldn't need to be upgraded for like at least 5 years. So going from 4th to 5th gen would likely be pointless and a waste of money and time.

So without a doubt go for b550 if you plan to use 4th gen ryzen.

Also i wouldn't bother buying a 4 core cpu in 2020. All next gen consoles are like 8 cores minimum now. So all games will start to actually utilize more cores going forward into the future. Very soon 6 cores will be the minimum and 4 cores will be a thing of the past. Plus games like the battlefield series / squad etc are very cpu heavy and most 4 core cpus struggle with them.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on June 22, 2020, 01:00:52 am
Depends if 5nm is worth it or not xd

Yeah, I've been leaning towards something like the B550 tomahawk from the beginning, I just wanted more opinions. I'm gaming on a 2 years old laptop I got for school atm and yeah, I want something sweet for 2K gaming. Honestly, Ryzens look so good atm (coming from an intel guy previously), and the fact they are like $100 cheaper than their intel counterparts is just good as I can invest that money in some decent AIO.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on September 14, 2020, 03:39:36 am
3070 THO
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on September 16, 2020, 02:33:39 pm
What a difference a competitive AMD has made to the market for both CPUs and GPUs. It's actually pretty crazy that AIBs are actually having to accept lower margins or be less competitive than a founders edition card.
I'm curious to see what Big Navi will bring, but not looking for a new GPU for a while yet.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on September 16, 2020, 06:39:47 pm
I honestly don't expect much from the big navi atm, but I'm super hyped that AMD literally catched up in a span of ~3 years in both CPU and GPU. My next system will most definitely be ryzen 7 4xxx and a 3080, or potentially 3070/80 Super if these come out before I start building (Jan - spring 21)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Momonga188 on September 16, 2020, 09:59:34 pm
Hey, I was recently looking at gaming PC builds. Talking about GPU I found this article pretty helpful,
which gives an overview about all the kinds and their functions: https://www.technikhiwi.de/grafikkarte-test/
It might help you too. The article is in German but you can use the browser translator to translate it.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on September 17, 2020, 01:05:35 am
Tbh looking at the benchmarks for the 3080 it's actually kinda underwhelming. They marketed it as 100% faster than the 2080 but on average it's like 70%. Even cherry picked I struggle to find any that reach double. The VRAM limitations also seem to have hurt them considering BF was using all 10GB with RTX disabled.
I reckon RDNA2 is going to be pretty competitive, I do wonder how much it'll hurt them to be launching so much later than the 3000 series. I feel like a lot of people bought into the Nvidia hype around their launch event
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on September 17, 2020, 08:29:04 am
Tbh looking at the benchmarks for the 3080 it's actually kinda underwhelming. They marketed it as 100% faster than the 2080 but on average it's like 70%. Even cherry picked I struggle to find any that reach double. The VRAM limitations also seem to have hurt them considering BF was using all 10GB with RTX disabled.
I reckon RDNA2 is going to be pretty competitive, I do wonder how much it'll hurt them to be launching so much later than the 3000 series. I feel like a lot of people bought into the Nvidia hype around their launch event

yeah that "double the performance of 2080" was solid misstep, it really only applies in some cases outside gaming
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Cameron. on November 26, 2020, 11:14:15 pm
hello wise elders of the village
144hz
27"
4ms

is this good
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on November 27, 2020, 12:02:52 am
hello wise elders of the village
144hz
27"
4ms

is this good
Depends on the panel. Link the monitor you are looking at?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Cameron. on November 27, 2020, 03:17:47 am
hello wise elders of the village
144hz
27"
4ms

is this good
Depends on the panel. Link the monitor you are looking at?
https://www.dell.com/en-uk/shop/dell-27-curved-gaming-monitor-s2721hgf/apd/210-awyy/monitors-monitor-accessories
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kristine on November 27, 2020, 03:23:07 am
hello wise elders of the village
144hz
27"
4ms

is this good
Depends on the panel. Link the monitor you are looking at?
https://www.dell.com/en-uk/shop/dell-27-curved-gaming-monitor-s2721hgf/apd/210-awyy/monitors-monitor-accessories
It'd be fine for movie watching and gaming but you won't get the most "competitive advantage" because of the 4ms GTG response time. If I were you I'd get it pretty good deal for a 27 inch curved monitor.

If you want a competitive edge go for this inexpensive benq, all the newer benqs only have DyAc which is for csgo recoil and 240hz is nice but not worth the 400$ premium.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/BenQ-XL2411P-Sports-Adjustable-eQualizer/dp/B075JGL4WV/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=144+hz&qid=1606443865&sr=8-3
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Cameron. on November 27, 2020, 12:46:11 pm
hello wise elders of the village
144hz
27"
4ms

is this good
Depends on the panel. Link the monitor you are looking at?
https://www.dell.com/en-uk/shop/dell-27-curved-gaming-monitor-s2721hgf/apd/210-awyy/monitors-monitor-accessories
It'd be fine for movie watching and gaming but you won't get the most "competitive advantage" because of the 4ms GTG response time. If I were you I'd get it pretty good deal for a 27 inch curved monitor.

If you want a competitive edge go for this inexpensive benq, all the newer benqs only have DyAc which is for csgo recoil and 240hz is nice but not worth the 400$ premium.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/BenQ-XL2411P-Sports-Adjustable-eQualizer/dp/B075JGL4WV/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=144+hz&qid=1606443865&sr=8-3
Thank you v much, think I’ll get it because I mean my monitor rn doesn’t give me an edge in any game but I still win most the time kek not like 3 ms will fuck me up in almost everything
Ty
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Rikkert on November 27, 2020, 02:33:27 pm
ms doesn't matter too much, just go for a resolution/hz combination that your pc can handle. No point in getting 1440p/144hz if you're hanging at 60fps in every game. If you just want performance for competitive games get any 1080p/144hz, if u want vsync or something similar then get one that supports that. Some will have shittier colours than others but who gives a shit.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Cameron. on November 27, 2020, 02:55:37 pm
ms doesn't matter too much, just go for a resolution/hz combination that your pc can handle. No point in getting 1440p/144hz if you're hanging at 60fps in every game. If you just want performance for competitive games get any 1080p/144hz, if u want vsync or something similar then get one that supports that. Some will have shittier colours than others but who gives a shit.
thanks papa rik
my pc is not shit so all is okok
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on November 27, 2020, 04:03:45 pm
human eye can only see 24fps and 5hz
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Fwuffy on November 27, 2020, 04:29:36 pm
get dat new asus 360hz one cameron, ur welcome
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kristine on November 27, 2020, 11:43:37 pm
ms doesn't matter too much, just go for a resolution/hz combination that your pc can handle. No point in getting 1440p/144hz if you're hanging at 60fps in every game. If you just want performance for competitive games get any 1080p/144hz, if u want vsync or something similar then get one that supports that. Some will have shittier colours than others but who gives a shit.
thanks papa rik
my pc is not shit so all is okok
forgot to add if your pc is shit then getting a 240hz monitor is useless lol, also lower MS means less ghosting of images and better picture quality.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Cameron. on November 28, 2020, 03:05:41 am
get dat new asus 360hz one cameron, ur welcome
700£ is like one and a half months rent
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Fwuffy on November 28, 2020, 04:41:39 pm
get dat new asus 360hz one cameron, ur welcome
700£ is like one and a half months rent
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Fralla8 on November 28, 2020, 07:38:51 pm
get dat new asus 360hz one cameron, ur welcome
700£ is like one and a half months rent
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Fwuffy:
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/458/339/381.png)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Rikkert on November 28, 2020, 07:46:44 pm
get dat new asus 360hz one cameron, ur welcome
700£ is like one and a half months rent
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Fwuffy:
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/458/339/381.png)
Fwuffy's got daddy's creditcard
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Melsyo on November 28, 2020, 08:15:43 pm
1280x1024 gamers unite
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Fwuffy on November 28, 2020, 10:00:57 pm
get dat new asus 360hz one cameron, ur welcome
700£ is like one and a half months rent
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Fwuffy:
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/458/339/381.png)
Fwuffy's got daddy's creditcard
ye got ur credit card
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Rikkert on November 28, 2020, 10:02:01 pm
get dat new asus 360hz one cameron, ur welcome
700£ is like one and a half months rent
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Fwuffy:
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/458/339/381.png)
Fwuffy's got daddy's creditcard
ye got ur credit card
:o
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Steinmann on November 29, 2020, 01:47:15 pm
What is the best Intel CPU atm for gaming?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Rikkert on November 29, 2020, 03:37:11 pm
What is the best Intel CPU atm for gaming?
an amd cpu
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on November 29, 2020, 03:41:51 pm
What is the best Intel CPU atm for gaming?
10900k

but a 5950x is on par or better with an extra 6 cores if you want to spend that.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Elias on November 29, 2020, 04:34:27 pm
What is the best Intel CPU atm for gaming?
10900k

but a 5950x is on par or better with an extra 6 cores if you want to spend that.

but not in stock rn right?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on November 29, 2020, 04:57:30 pm
10900k is a massive waste of money. If you're set on Intel get a 10600k and overclock it to get the same performance.
Otherwise like everyone else said get AMD, the 5600x is already a beast, let alone the 5900x and 5950x.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on November 29, 2020, 05:24:11 pm
10900k is a massive waste of money. If you're set on Intel get a 10600k and overclock it to get the same performance.
Otherwise like everyone else said get AMD, the 5600x is already a beast, let alone the 5900x and 5950x.
ye
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: lonedoge on November 29, 2020, 09:06:39 pm
got a 5600x, cant wait to use it on warband  8)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on November 29, 2020, 09:25:05 pm
got a 5600x, cant wait to use it on warband  8)
Imagine getting a 5600x and not a 6800x  :-\
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Sgt.Winters on November 29, 2020, 10:07:16 pm
The urge to buy a 3080 even though I absolutely don't need it is becoming unbearable.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: lonedoge on November 29, 2020, 11:49:29 pm
got a 5600x, cant wait to use it on warband  8)
Imagine getting a 5600x and not a 6800x  :-\
i saw a 5600x in stock and automatically bought it
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on November 29, 2020, 11:55:06 pm
got a 5600x, cant wait to use it on warband  8)
Imagine getting a 5600x and not a 6800x  :-\
i saw a 5600x in stock and automatically bought it

buy me one too, its not in stock here
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: lonedoge on November 30, 2020, 12:18:02 am
got a 5600x, cant wait to use it on warband  8)
Imagine getting a 5600x and not a 6800x  :-\
i saw a 5600x in stock and automatically bought it

buy me one too, its not in stock here
some random irish website got like 10 of them

all gone now  >:(
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on November 30, 2020, 07:15:29 am
Is the 5600x better than the cheaper 8 core alternatives for Intel tho? I haven't really looked into it but my mind says probs no
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Snikkel on November 30, 2020, 01:34:43 pm
AMD is on the block now. Real believers like me who have been holding $AMD since €55,- know it's the future.
This is not the time to spare expenses. This is the time to go all out these flagship products that will last 3-5 years!
Ryzen 9 5900X and AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT for me!!!
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Elsse on November 30, 2020, 01:51:04 pm
My 1070ti is slowly dying
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Rikkert on November 30, 2020, 02:31:22 pm
My 1070ti is slowly dying
my 1070 FE is already dead
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: lonedoge on November 30, 2020, 06:00:24 pm
Is the 5600x better than the cheaper 8 core alternatives for Intel tho? I haven't really looked into it but my mind says probs no
5600x has bscly the same performance as a i9 10900k in game
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on November 30, 2020, 06:58:18 pm
Is the 5600x better than the cheaper 8 core alternatives for Intel tho? I haven't really looked into it but my mind says probs no
5600x has bscly the same performance as a i9 10900k in game
Yeah actually this.
It literally beats the 10900k in some games, and matches it in most others.
And bear in mind that's using Nvidia GPUs on the benchmarks from when it came out; using AMD GPUs to benefit from SAM will give even better performance.
AMD is actually a no-brainer at this point.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on November 30, 2020, 07:32:13 pm
When you look at the benchmark results when using SAM the results are pretty negligable though?

Very little games really make much use of it?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Snikkel on December 01, 2020, 06:14:03 pm
SAM gains are pretty negligible. They tested it and only got like 4% fps boost in 1 out of 8 recent triple A games.
With either brand you are probably stuck waiting in a long ass queue before u finally get your component.

Right now AMD cpu and NVIDIA gpu combo is your best bet if you are going for max performance.
Besides that it's really hard to go wrong with either of them.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on December 01, 2020, 06:56:22 pm
Not to mention SAM is a bastardised version of something that already existed so this is something eventually we could be seeing for Intel based CPU's.

The more impressive thing with AMD is actually the performance of the 6800XT and how far it can overclock, which could even go better if the limits in the Bios werent so large.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Snikkel on December 01, 2020, 07:43:18 pm
Ye, true. Even though i gotta wait a long ass time i'm probably going 5900x and 3080 ti or something.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Shadey on December 02, 2020, 12:41:39 am
Still going strong with my 7700k and 1080ti   8)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Cameron. on December 05, 2020, 02:56:57 am
hello wise elders of the village
144hz
27"
4ms

is this good
Depends on the panel. Link the monitor you are looking at?
https://www.dell.com/en-uk/shop/dell-27-curved-gaming-monitor-s2721hgf/apd/210-awyy/monitors-monitor-accessories
LIFE CHANGING
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on December 05, 2020, 06:20:09 am
Not to mention SAM is a bastardised version of something that already existed so this is something eventually we could be seeing for Intel based CPU's.

The more impressive thing with AMD is actually the performance of the 6800XT and how far it can overclock, which could even go better if the limits in the Bios werent so large.
Just to add to this, Asus and AsRock have already released Bios updates that enable the intel variant of SAM (Clever Memory...yikes) to intel CPU's. People are seeing up to 16% performance increases which is kinda nuts.

Intel has also announced that they will be including their own implementation of Resizable BAR (what SAM is based on anyway) to Rocket Lake and will be compatible with both nvidia and amd GPU's.

So that extra feature that people were overhyping is no loner an AMD selling point.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kristine on December 05, 2020, 06:45:50 am
Not to mention SAM is a bastardised version of something that already existed so this is something eventually we could be seeing for Intel based CPU's.

The more impressive thing with AMD is actually the performance of the 6800XT and how far it can overclock, which could even go better if the limits in the Bios werent so large.
Just to add to this, Asus and AsRock have already released Bios updates that enable the intel variant of SAM (Clever Memory...yikes) to intel CPU's. People are seeing up to 16% performance increases which is kinda nuts.

Intel has also announced that they will be including their own implementation of Resizable BAR (what SAM is based on anyway) to Rocket Lake and will be compatible with both nvidia and amd GPU's.

So that extra feature that people were overhyping is no loner an AMD selling point.
(https://i.ibb.co/1ZgNRh1/amd-meme.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nrGyQZ9)



nuff said
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on December 05, 2020, 11:42:20 am
Right now AMD cpu and NVIDIA gpu combo is your best bet if you are going for max performance.
Besides that it's really hard to go wrong with either of them.
I agree that both have good value products, but AMD is miles ahead in price to performance at the top end.
You can get a water cooled 6800XT for $900 which equals a 3090 ($1500) at 1440p and is single digit frames behind at 4k, runs very cool and quiet.
The 3090 is a fucking joke. 3060Ti and 3080 are pretty alright though I will admit.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on December 05, 2020, 11:43:52 pm
What's the AMD equivalent of nvidias ray tracing or do they both support it and nvidia is just trying to sound special with their RTX labelling?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on December 06, 2020, 08:15:10 am
What's the AMD equivalent of nvidias ray tracing or do they both support it and nvidia is just trying to sound special with their RTX labelling?
The new 6000 series does support Ray Tracing but its not very good, "RDNA". Performance of the 6800 XT at the moment is similar to like a 2060 Super at the moment on a lot of games.

DLSS Is really good right now so even those really intensive games with Ray Tracing you are only feeling a 5-10% hit which is insanely good.

I like Ryzen 5000 series but until we see the 6900 cards I don't think personally I can justify not going nvidia still. The 6800 XT has similar price to the 3080 being around 50 euros less, but you won't get the great hardware encoding in NVENC, DLSS, Shadowplay, Broadcast and Ray Tracing (its just that shit on AMD rn). I couldn't live without these so its well worth the slight extra cost for me.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on December 06, 2020, 12:47:19 pm
What's the AMD equivalent of nvidias ray tracing or do they both support it and nvidia is just trying to sound special with their RTX labelling?
AMD is working on a more general version of ray tracing branded DXR, which essentially should work on all direct x titles, making it far more widely applicable than nvidia's game specific implementations.
That said the performance isn't there yet, it's more or less on par with 1st gen RTX.

Honestly I don't think the performance hit is worth it for ray tracing at present, there's honestly not that much difference for what is a substantial fps hit. No idea where you're getting the 5-10% numbers from John Price:
https://www.techspot.com/article/2109-nvidia-rtx-3080-ray-tracing-dlss/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nX3W7Sx4l78

DLSS on its own is almost enough to make getting an NVIDIA card worth it (although personally I need a better monitor first). I'll be interested to see AMDs version of it, although similar to ray tracing they've got a lot of catching up to do.

I think the next gen of cards will make ray tracing a no brainer on both AMD and NVIDIA, but it's certainly something I'm happy to do without for the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Elsse on December 06, 2020, 02:46:30 pm
Might buy that impressive 3060ti
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Snikkel on December 08, 2020, 06:56:17 pm
This is what my build is looking like right now. If u guys have any feedback i'd love to hear, but don't u dare copy my shit.
Gonna OC the fk out of my 1080ti till something like the 3080ti comes out.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k8dJmk (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k8dJmk)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on December 08, 2020, 08:41:02 pm
This is what my build is looking like right now. If u guys have any feedback i'd love to hear, but don't u dare copy my shit.
Gonna OC the fk out of my 1080ti till something like the 3080ti comes out.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k8dJmk (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k8dJmk)

ugly cooler
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Snikkel on December 08, 2020, 09:07:54 pm
This is what my build is looking like right now. If u guys have any feedback i'd love to hear, but don't u dare copy my shit.
Gonna OC the fk out of my 1080ti till something like the 3080ti comes out.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k8dJmk (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k8dJmk)

ugly cooler

It's pretty bulky ye I agree. Atleast i'm not going with the default colors.
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91Hw1zcAIjL._AC_SX466_.jpg)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Rikkert on December 08, 2020, 09:16:29 pm
120 euros for some rgb fans bro, why
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Snikkel on December 08, 2020, 10:09:44 pm
120 euros for some rgb fans bro, why

Oh they are just a placeholder because I couldn't find the ones I want on the partpicker site. Mine are in the 50-70 euro range.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on December 08, 2020, 10:17:08 pm
This is what my build is looking like right now. If u guys have any feedback i'd love to hear, but don't u dare copy my shit.
Gonna OC the fk out of my 1080ti till something like the 3080ti comes out.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k8dJmk (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k8dJmk)

ugly cooler

It's pretty bulky ye I agree. Atleast i'm not going with the default colors.
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91Hw1zcAIjL._AC_SX466_.jpg)
 

Why not some cool - pun intended - looking aio? Or you just don't wanna spend where u don't have to?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Rikkert on December 08, 2020, 10:33:00 pm
This is what my build is looking like right now. If u guys have any feedback i'd love to hear, but don't u dare copy my shit.
Gonna OC the fk out of my 1080ti till something like the 3080ti comes out.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k8dJmk (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k8dJmk)

ugly cooler

It's pretty bulky ye I agree. Atleast i'm not going with the default colors.
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91Hw1zcAIjL._AC_SX466_.jpg)
 

Why not some cool - pun intended - looking aio? Or you just don't wanna spend where u don't have to?
AIO's generally speaking aren't better than these massive heatsink fans, and those AIO's can have a slight risk of leaking
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Snikkel on December 08, 2020, 10:37:41 pm
Spoiler
This is what my build is looking like right now. If u guys have any feedback i'd love to hear, but don't u dare copy my shit.
Gonna OC the fk out of my 1080ti till something like the 3080ti comes out.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k8dJmk (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k8dJmk)

ugly cooler

It's pretty bulky ye I agree. Atleast i'm not going with the default colors.
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91Hw1zcAIjL._AC_SX466_.jpg)
 
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Why not some cool - pun intended - looking aio? Or you just don't wanna spend where u don't have to?

Ye, i'm going air because I have a bad history with water cooling. Coolermaster and Corsair have both failed me resulting in water damage before.
I know something like the Kraken looks very clean and has a very slight performance boost, but at double the cost. Also I'm gonna be moving it around a fair bit and don't want to risk any accidental water damage. Not to mention the annoying cricket sound that comes with water cooling at idle or low load.


Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on December 09, 2020, 12:24:40 am
Noctua is the best. Fuck anyone that disagrees. :P
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on December 09, 2020, 04:03:00 am
Why the fuck are 2060 supers still so expensive!?!? The GPU market is so fucked right now...
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Phil The Thril on December 09, 2020, 04:17:22 am
Noctua is the best. Fuck anyone that disagrees. :P
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on December 09, 2020, 10:41:10 pm
Spoiler
This is what my build is looking like right now. If u guys have any feedback i'd love to hear, but don't u dare copy my shit.
Gonna OC the fk out of my 1080ti till something like the 3080ti comes out.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k8dJmk (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k8dJmk)

ugly cooler

It's pretty bulky ye I agree. Atleast i'm not going with the default colors.
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91Hw1zcAIjL._AC_SX466_.jpg)
 

Why not some cool - pun intended - looking aio? Or you just don't wanna spend where u don't have to?
AIO's generally speaking aren't better than these massive heatsink fans, and those AIO's can have a slight risk of leaking
[close]

dont remember asking YOU

Spoiler
This is what my build is looking like right now. If u guys have any feedback i'd love to hear, but don't u dare copy my shit.
Gonna OC the fk out of my 1080ti till something like the 3080ti comes out.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k8dJmk (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k8dJmk)

ugly cooler

It's pretty bulky ye I agree. Atleast i'm not going with the default colors.
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91Hw1zcAIjL._AC_SX466_.jpg)
 
[close]

Why not some cool - pun intended - looking aio? Or you just don't wanna spend where u don't have to?

Ye, i'm going air because I have a bad history with water cooling. Coolermaster and Corsair have both failed me resulting in water damage before.
I know something like the Kraken looks very clean and has a very slight performance boost, but at double the cost. Also I'm gonna be moving it around a fair bit and don't want to risk any accidental water damage. Not to mention the annoying cricket sound that comes with water cooling at idle or low load.




fair enough

Noctua is the best. Fuck anyone that disagrees. :P

didn't ask
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Elias on December 11, 2020, 12:34:01 pm
what are your opinios about the 5700xt?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on December 11, 2020, 03:12:53 pm
what are your opinios about the 5700xt?
I would get the 2070 Super. It's a little more money but I think it'll be a better investment.

Here are some benchmarks

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2070S-Super-vs-AMD-RX-5700-XT/4048vs4045
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Phil The Thril on December 12, 2020, 05:22:08 am
what are your opinios about the 5700xt?
It's a solid card and a better value than the 2060s or 2070s especially if you are playing at 1080p and don't care about ray tracing. That said, buying one now when the 3060ti exists just doesn't make much sense unless you just have to upgrade your PC right now and can't wait until the GPU market chills out a bit.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on December 12, 2020, 01:05:16 pm
what are your opinios about the 5700xt?
I would get the 2070 Super. It's a little more money but I think it'll be a better investment.

Here are some benchmarks

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2070S-Super-vs-AMD-RX-5700-XT/4048vs4045
Userbenchmark isn't great for hardware comparisons. I'd recommend looking at actual standardised gaming benchmarks, HardwareUnboxed or GamersNexus are great examples.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on December 12, 2020, 03:49:08 pm
I always fall asleep when I watch gamersnexus
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on December 12, 2020, 06:49:21 pm
I always fall asleep when I watch gamersnexus
That means Steve's doing a good job
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on February 03, 2021, 03:33:05 pm
anyone has anything better than 970 lying about for cheap?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Snikkel on February 04, 2021, 12:53:28 am
I just build my new pc all except the GPU, but if ur thinking about getting a nh-d15 and u think its big. Think that times 10. It's a massive chunk of metal and fan weighing more than 1kg.
Also don't skimp out on a motherboard cuz ur gonna want all the GPU and RAM clearance u can get. I love mine, but it took a while getting it in perfect with a medium case.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Fwuffy on February 05, 2021, 06:13:52 pm
anyone has anything better than 970 lying about for cheap?
u want my 970?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: BabyJesus on February 05, 2021, 06:19:54 pm
anyone has anything better than 970 lying about for cheap?
you want my 2080?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on February 05, 2021, 07:52:57 pm
anyone has anything better than 970 lying about for cheap?
you want my 2080?

if it is for cheap we can talk XD
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on February 06, 2021, 08:25:01 am
Want my old 2080TI?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on February 06, 2021, 08:33:52 am
Is it worth the upgrade from a 2080 ti to a 3080 ti? And what is the difference actually between the 3080 ti and the 3090?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: yecgga on February 06, 2021, 08:39:12 am
Is it worth the upgrade from a 2080 ti to a 3080 ti? And what is the difference actually between the 3080 ti and the 3090?

Spoiler
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Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on February 06, 2021, 04:33:50 pm
Is it worth the upgrade from a 2080 ti to a 3080 ti? And what is the difference actually between the 3080 ti and the 3090?

if you like wasting money go for it
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on February 06, 2021, 04:34:52 pm
I mean would it be worth such an upgrade. Comparing the price you must pay for maybe something that isn't much of a difference at all or a big difference.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on February 06, 2021, 08:16:41 pm
You would be trading a GPU that can run everything at max for another gpu that can run everything at max. I usually upgrade every generation and even I skipped this time lol
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on February 06, 2021, 08:36:16 pm
Ah well, I'll keep my 2080 ti a bit longer then. Thing's a beast.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on February 07, 2021, 04:08:51 pm
I mean, it depends what you want. If you want to play in 4k, go for a 3080 or so.

I got massive FPS improvements when I switched to a 3090 from a 2080ti. Not saying you should get a 3090 tho, that thing isn't worth the price.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on February 07, 2021, 04:10:31 pm
I mean, it depends what you want. If you want to play in 4k, go for a 3080 or so.

I got massive FPS improvements when I switched to a 3090 from a 2080ti. Not saying you should get a 3090 tho, that thing isn't worth the price.
Yeah honestly I do play a lot in 4K. Maybe a 3080 ti then?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on February 07, 2021, 04:28:18 pm
Whenever those are available.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on February 07, 2021, 05:13:29 pm
If it was available then sure, you could sell the 2080ti and get a good maybe half the cost of the 3080ti back. At least where I live you can.

But no point in rushing it.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on February 07, 2021, 05:32:26 pm
I see, thanks for clearing this up. I'll definitely hold onto this one for a a year or two or so.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Rikkert on February 07, 2021, 05:52:35 pm
I still have a 1070 fe that I've had for 4 and a half years. Was planning to upgrade around 4-5 yrs in (so right now), but it seems quite stupid to upgrade at the moment.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on February 07, 2021, 08:29:18 pm
I still have a 1070 fe that I've had for 4 and a half years. Was planning to upgrade around 4-5 yrs in (so right now), but it seems quite stupid to upgrade at the moment.
If I was in your situation and I had the money I would go for the 3080's.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on February 07, 2021, 09:54:29 pm
i want 2080 for 200e help
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on February 08, 2021, 10:12:07 pm
So, I am gonna sell my Old PC and all the other components that I have sitting around here.

Anyone interested in any of my stuff? I can make a proper list later, but here is roughly what I want to get rid of:

48gig of 3000 CL16 Corsair Platinum
64gb of 3200CL16 Corsair Platinum
64gb of CL18 or maybe CL17, not sure, 3600 Corsair LPX Vengeance
8700k
Some Asus Motherboard, Maximus X Hero, I think.
A Zotac 2080TI, tripple fan
LG Blu Ray Reader/Burner
1000watt Corsair PSU
Some Be Quiet Case 900Pro series or something, I honestly don't remember. It has plenty of Fans, and a fan controller with touch screen that goes to the front of the case, but the temperature reader is broken, the cable ripped somehow. Should be easy to fix.
Some cheap Noctua CPU cooler that I bought last year cause my AIO broke last year, but it performs damn well, cause ya know, Noctua.

Most of the stuff is 3 years old by now, it originally was a prebuilt PC, but obviously added my own parts to it and exchanged others. I only got it because I couldn't be bothered with cable managing everything, lol. I ripped the stuff out that I needed for my new system, but all the stuff works well.




Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on February 08, 2021, 10:20:43 pm
I can take a few pieces of that as I was looking to build a spare rig. I also recently built a PC for a mate and was looking to grab a 2nd hand 2080ti for him, DM me what price you were looking for.

I might take the 8700k, Mobo and a load of the RAM. Will come back to you on that pretty soonish.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on February 08, 2021, 10:23:09 pm
how much for 2080Ti chriseh dont need it
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on February 08, 2021, 10:36:27 pm
Back off bearded man
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on February 08, 2021, 11:16:06 pm
So, I am gonna sell my Old PC and all the other components that I have sitting around here.

Anyone interested in any of my stuff? I can make a proper list later, but here is roughly what I want to get rid of:

48gig of 3000 CL16 Corsair Platinum
64gb of 3200CL16 Corsair Platinum
64gb of CL18 or maybe CL17, not sure, 3600 Corsair LPX Vengeance
8700k
Some Asus Motherboard, Maximus X Hero, I think.
A Zotac 2080TI, tripple fan
LG Blu Ray Reader/Burner
1000watt Corsair PSU
Some Be Quiet Case 900Pro series or something, I honestly don't remember. It has plenty of Fans, and a fan controller with touch screen that goes to the front of the case, but the temperature reader is broken, the cable ripped somehow. Should be easy to fix.
Some cheap Noctua CPU cooler that I bought last year cause my AIO broke last year, but it performs damn well, cause ya know, Noctua.

Most of the stuff is 3 years old by now, it originally was a prebuilt PC, but obviously added my own parts to it and exchanged others. I only got it because I couldn't be bothered with cable managing everything, lol. I ripped the stuff out that I needed for my new system, but all the stuff works well.

I actually need some of that RAM as ive been having issues with my current kit. How much with shipping included are you thinking for the 64gb of 3200CL16 Corsair Platinum or even the LPX kit?
I would even be happy just buying 32gb.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on February 09, 2021, 02:23:09 pm
Hey guys.

First of all, the 3000mhz Ram is actually CL15, not that it really matters.
Anyway, here are the prices I think are okay. Let me know what you think:


48gig of 3000 CL15 Corsair Dominator Platinum          >>>>>>>>>> 40 Euro for 16gig
64gb of 3200 CL16 Corsair Dominator Platinum            >>>>>>>>>  60 euro for 16gig 
64gb of 3600 CL18 Corsair LPX Vengeance >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 80 Euro for 16 gig
8700k  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 250 Euro
Asus Motherboard, Maximus X Hero >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 150 Euro
ZOTAC RTX 2080Ti AMP! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 700 Euro
LG Blu Ray Reader/Burner >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know, 25 Bucks?
1000watt Corsair PSU >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 100 Euro
be quiet! Dark Base Pro 900 black >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whatever, I just want to get rid of it. It's taking too much space.
Noctua NH-U14S >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 45 Euro
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on February 09, 2021, 03:36:19 pm
Just to check, the 3200 Platinums, are those sticks of 16GB or pairs of 8GB?

I can take:

8700k for €200
Asus Mobo for €150
PSU for €C100
I will take half if not all of the 3200 CL16 but it depends on the stick sizes if you could clarify. I assume its 16GB per stick if you have a 64GB kit. If you could do €55 for me just to keep me within a budget that would be perfect.

I don't think I could take the 2080ti for that price, on Ebay here we can get them for 150-200 euros cheaper. Sometimes a little more if you jump on a bid at the right time. If the 500 euro mark doesnt sound bad for you I could probs take it too although I will need to confirm.

I was also tempted to say throw in the Noctua as well but I think I have that exact one in storage not being used lol. When it comes to the case, CD drive etc. I don't think it would be worth paying the shipping honestly.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on February 09, 2021, 03:39:44 pm
I would be willing to drop to 600ish for the 2080TI, over here it sells for around 750-800 (For whatever reason). Your other offers sound reasonable to me.

All the ram are 16GB sticks, yea
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on February 09, 2021, 03:46:56 pm
Yeah the prices dropped really far for the 2080ti here which is why when I built a pc for a friend of the family on the weekend I told him to hold off because if its going for 550 euros right now, when the 3000 series gets back in stock its going to drop even further when people can upgrade.

Will send you a PM in a little while once im home.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Snikkel on February 10, 2021, 12:58:55 pm
For people that upgrade their rig every 3-4 years and plan on taking a 3000 series GPU make sure your PSU has enough watt and that the CPU can handle the GPU so u don't create a massive bottleneck.
This goes both ways.

Here is a site were u can check for bottlenecks. https://pc-builds.com/calculator/ (https://pc-builds.com/calculator/)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on February 10, 2021, 01:15:31 pm
 Don't you worry my 10600k is smoking a cigarette and having a cup of coffee whilst my poor old 970 sits at 99% at almost every game XD

@olaf yeah that gpu is way over my budget atm, so I'll keep waiting until 2080 prices drop below or close to 3070 msrp
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on February 28, 2021, 02:11:15 pm
I love this country. My stuff from Olafson was out for delivery so I got everything out ready to build, then got cancelled because they forgot to charge me the customs charge.

I now need to wait a week for a letter to pay the charge nice
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on March 02, 2021, 01:48:30 pm
Wait you have to pay Customs? I put it as a present and put the price to just 150 bucks.


Also EBAY is a bitch and apparently I can not sell anything worth more than 10 Euros... So I have to get rid of my stuff someway else. I still have this, if anyone is intersted:

48gig of 3000 CL15 Corsair Dominator Platinum          >>>>>>>>>> 40 Euro for 16gig
64gb of 3600 CL18 Corsair LPX Vengeance >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 80 Euro for 16 gig
ZOTAC RTX 2080Ti AMP! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 700 Euro

Honestly, cause I can't sell the Card anywhere else anyway, I am more than willing to go down with the price too. 
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on March 02, 2021, 01:54:39 pm
I literally just paid it an hour ago:

Spoiler
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I knew there would be a fee, like everything in the UK if we can legally charge you for it we will lol. They were very annoying about it though.

EDIT: I sold a couple of PC's on Ebay and didn't have an issue with it. The problem I ended up having was I sold a few PC's made out of spares I had laying around for about £1200, but then the next month Ebay slapped me almost £250 in charges just using their platform yikes
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Rikkert on March 02, 2021, 01:58:26 pm
Brexit means brexit
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on March 02, 2021, 01:59:42 pm
Our import charges have been in place since way before brexit. I remember having to get a SAN repaired at work and it cost almost 400 quid to take it back as it had been all over the place back in 2014/15.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on March 02, 2021, 02:13:06 pm
Yeah ebay is like: " You didn't sell anything for a couple of years, well guess what, you can only sell items worth 10 Euro or less!"
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on March 02, 2021, 02:57:56 pm
Brexit means brexit
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on March 02, 2021, 05:11:36 pm
Brexit means brexit
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on March 03, 2021, 01:13:45 am
ZOTAC RTX 2080Ti AMP! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 700 Euro

Honestly, cause I can't sell the Card anywhere else anyway, I am more than willing to go down with the price too.

if you still have it available in one month, I might be actually interested
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Herishey on March 03, 2021, 01:20:36 am
Not really about a PC build specifically but anyone got any recommendation on 240hz monitors. I want to upgrade sometime in the next week or two but don't want to spend more than maybe £250-400. Both my current monitors are hella old.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on March 03, 2021, 10:08:32 am
Not really about a PC build specifically but anyone got any recommendation on 240hz monitors. I want to upgrade sometime in the next week or two but don't want to spend more than maybe £250-400. Both my current monitors are hella old.

Ask Joe, though I'd say it's the best to wait until 360hz become cheaper. For 250-400 you can get decent 1080p 144hz or maybe even some decent entry level 2k 144hz monitors
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Steinmann on March 03, 2021, 10:15:09 am
Bring me 3080s
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Fwuffy on March 03, 2021, 11:30:23 am
Yh heri go 360 and report back to us plz
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on March 03, 2021, 02:26:06 pm
I have a BenQ XL2546, 1080p 240hz but its mostly for playing shit like CS.

Good though.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Herishey on March 03, 2021, 03:04:40 pm
Yh heri go 360 and report back to us plz
I don't wanna be your test pig :(
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on March 03, 2021, 03:50:11 pm
Yh heri go 360 and report back to us plz
I’m yet to be shown that 360 actually makes much of a difference. The refresh rate is so high I don’t belive that it will have much of a difference compared to 240 hz
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Fwuffy on March 03, 2021, 05:39:36 pm
Yh heri go 360 and report back to us plz
I’m yet to be shown that 360 actually makes much of a difference. The refresh rate is so high I don’t belive that it will have much of a difference compared to 240 hz
ask allu
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on March 03, 2021, 05:40:25 pm
I feel like the tiniest of changes matter to Allu. He sits on an old dining chair from the 60s
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on March 04, 2021, 12:11:38 pm
Dining chairs are way better than any silly gaming or office chair.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on March 04, 2021, 05:22:00 pm
Nice packing job btw Olaf
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on March 04, 2021, 08:38:13 pm
Dining chairs are way better than any silly gaming or office chair.
hey man, my gaming chair is a good one. never any backpain. shit's solid.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on March 05, 2021, 09:09:24 pm
My Dining chair too. And it was just 10 bucks
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on March 06, 2021, 01:33:25 am
Not really about a PC build specifically but anyone got any recommendation on 240hz monitors. I want to upgrade sometime in the next week or two but don't want to spend more than maybe £250-400. Both my current monitors are hella old.
I'm not a monitor buff, but just be aware that you need to be a bit careful buying monitors, as lots of companies will put (for example) 240 Hz which in reality is only achievable using an overdrive mode (think like RAM XMP overclocking but on a monitor) which is genuinely bad and gives massive overshoot, seen as visual artefacts like ghosting. I'm not saying this will necessarily happen, but a good monitor with a "lower" refresh rate can give you a far better experience than a cheap monitor with a "higher" refresh rate.
I'd recommend Hardware Unboxed on Youtube, they have some great monitor reviews and are pretty unbiased.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on March 06, 2021, 05:40:56 am
Thats usually not a problem anymore. The way to tell is the monitor will be advertised for 144Hz but the description will include the boost.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on March 07, 2021, 01:36:00 am
The cheaper brands absolutely still do. Not to say that there aren't good monitors at entry level pricing, but there's still significant difference between monitors at the same price point with similar specs.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Herishey on March 07, 2021, 03:49:08 pm
Not really about a PC build specifically but anyone got any recommendation on 240hz monitors. I want to upgrade sometime in the next week or two but don't want to spend more than maybe £250-400. Both my current monitors are hella old.
I'm not a monitor buff, but just be aware that you need to be a bit careful buying monitors, as lots of companies will put (for example) 240 Hz which in reality is only achievable using an overdrive mode (think like RAM XMP overclocking but on a monitor) which is genuinely bad and gives massive overshoot, seen as visual artefacts like ghosting. I'm not saying this will necessarily happen, but a good monitor with a "lower" refresh rate can give you a far better experience than a cheap monitor with a "higher" refresh rate.
I'd recommend Hardware Unboxed on Youtube, they have some great monitor reviews and are pretty unbiased.
I'll have a look thanks. That's why I was looking for some recommendations as I don't wanna waste all that money on a meh monitor.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on March 23, 2021, 03:59:31 pm
If anyone has some lower end cards they don't need I am looking to grab one. Was looking at picking up a 980 or lower end 10 series card for my 2nd PC but would rather buy from someone I know.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Herishey on March 23, 2021, 05:34:45 pm
If anyone has some lower end cards they don't need I am looking to grab one. Was looking at picking up a 980 or lower end 10 series card for my 2nd PC but would rather buy from someone I know.
I think Hertz is upgrading from a 980 soon you might be able to get his one off him when he does.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on March 23, 2021, 05:49:35 pm
If anyone has some lower end cards they don't need I am looking to grab one. Was looking at picking up a 980 or lower end 10 series card for my 2nd PC but would rather buy from someone I know.
I think Hertz is upgrading from a 980 soon you might be able to get his one off him when he does.
He has a 970 and he said not till next year so..
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on March 23, 2021, 09:30:46 pm
If anyone has some lower end cards they don't need I am looking to grab one. Was looking at picking up a 980 or lower end 10 series card for my 2nd PC but would rather buy from someone I know.
I think Hertz is upgrading from a 980 soon you might be able to get his one off him when he does.
He has a 970 and he said not till next year so..

if everything works out I'll be able to sell my 970 by the summer
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on March 24, 2021, 04:02:27 pm
I literally just bought one. A little on the expensive side but it probably would have came to around the same as if I bought from you along with the shipping.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: FSE123 on April 07, 2021, 11:29:29 am
Alright thanks for the comments.

What is SLI actually what does it do? I'm not experienced with these terms, I apology. But I'd like to know it before I buy something. xd

SLI = Scalable Link Interface
is a multi-GPU technology from Nvidia, which enables the interconnection of two or more graphics chips to increase performance when rendering (SLI Frame Rendering) or the use of up to four screens (SLI Multi View). :)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on April 07, 2021, 08:58:51 pm
This GPU shortage is killing me.... I want a new 3000 series card. At this point I’ll have to wait for 4000.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on April 07, 2021, 09:02:51 pm
What do you have already?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on April 07, 2021, 09:28:53 pm
What do you have already?

Sapphire RX580 Nitro+
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on April 11, 2021, 11:52:35 am
Anyone know much about headphones? My current cheap logitech one is falling apart and I'm looking for something decent, although I'm certainly not an audiophile.

Currently looking at a Sennheiser 560S, or possibly a 599 if it comes down in price.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on April 11, 2021, 12:49:35 pm
I can certaintly give you a hand MrTiki!

Any particular reason you are looking at Open Ear headphones? Or just what you found around your pricepoint? I have had my HD650's for almost 7 or 8 years now and they have definitely been great.

Bought for £450 on sale
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And although they were definitely a good purchase I would still say I would have preferred to go Closed Back headphones. You don't really get the full benefit out of surround as well as no noise canceling (not sure if thats something you care about). Bass can also drown out in some songs as well unless you go for the super expensive audiophile headphones like my ones.

I bought these for one of my clients a while back:

https://www.richersounds.com/headphones/all-headphones/sennheiser-rs175-u-black.html

He absolutely loves them and although you can find them for about £30 more than the ones, they have a lot of  benefits including being wireless. Open ear headphones are still great though, at that price point you won't find any better ones than the ones you found really.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on April 11, 2021, 04:30:13 pm
I was only planning on using them at my home PC, both gaming and music, not for listening to music out and about, so I wasn't worried about sound bleeding out, and I don't really need noise canceling, certainly wouldn't pay extra for it.
With that in mind, and in terms of comfort and sound quality/stage I figured that open backed would be preferable to closed for me.

At the moment £200 is the upper limit of what I'm willing to budget as it'll still be a massive improvement over my current headset, although would prefer to spend less obviously.

I've heard recommendations about getting a DAC/Amp for good headphones but would sort of prefer not to shell out more money if it doesn't really make much difference. Any thoughts on that front?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on April 11, 2021, 05:35:18 pm
Nah, you wouldn't get such a big difference that you would notice. Even if you do it would be farely marginal compared to the cost.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: progamer26 on April 21, 2021, 04:09:46 pm
Hi guys :)

I'm currently looking for a new laptop for gaming purposes. I'd prefer a laptop as I can't (nor do I want to) put much work into it myself. I don't really know what to look for though and I hoped I could get some information / inspiration here.

Thanks in advance :)

Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on April 21, 2021, 04:15:39 pm
Hi guys :)

I'm currently looking for a new laptop for gaming purposes. I'd prefer a laptop as I can't (nor do I want to) put much work into it myself. I don't really know what to look for though and I hoped I could get some information / inspiration here.

Thanks in advance :)
I’d advise on saving for a proper pc tbh. Laptops are more practiced but are generally slower for gaming.
At the moment cause of covid prices for parts are high, it’s easier to get pixy dust than graphics cards. If you are really interested in a laptop tho, go for one with a high power usage, a graphics card such as a GTX1650 or Radeon equivalent. For processer I’d recommend i5 or a ryzen 5 as well as a 144 hrtz screen. All of this is expensive tho so depending on your budget depends on what you will be able to afford ofc.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on April 21, 2021, 08:28:31 pm
A set of brand new laptops is being released using new AMD processors which are much more efficient for the same performance.

As Blitz asked, what budget are you looking at? What kind of games did you have in mind? Will you use it on the go/do you need good battery life?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on April 22, 2021, 04:15:17 pm
Hi guys :)

I'm currently looking for a new laptop for gaming purposes. I'd prefer a laptop as I can't (nor do I want to) put much work into it myself. I don't really know what to look for though and I hoped I could get some information / inspiration here.

Thanks in advance :)

Legion laptops by Lenovo are pretty good
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on June 26, 2021, 04:49:00 pm
Hey guys

I'm going to study again in September and they said I needed a decent Laptop. It will run some demanding programs as I'm going to study programming. They recommended to buy one with an i7 or a Ryzen equivalent with also a somewhat strong GPU. I guess a 1080 Ti is fine or whatevs. It also had to have 16 GB's of RAM.

I found this one already Click (https://www.coolblue.be/nl/product/862085/hp-omen-15-dh1038nb-azerty.html?cmt=c_a%2Ccid_8783417987%2Caid_88139601029%2Ctid_pla-499819616592%2Cgn_g%2Cd_c&gclid=CjwKCAjwoNuGBhA8EiwAFxomA49eJMiTr5j3FR2un1CFtClr4O_VcFgc_12LypaMhen2iaotZVk3RxoCtEsQAvD_BwE) but I'm also open to any other suggestions.

The website is in Dutch but here are the specs:

i7 Processor.
RTX 2070 MAX-Q
16 GB RAM
1000 GB SSD Storage

Maybe important; I won't use this laptop for gaming.

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on June 29, 2021, 10:11:44 pm
If you're not gaming on it you can definitely save a LOT of money:
1) That graphics card is overkill, plus RTX (real time raytracing) will be irrelevant.
2) There would be an argument for Intel CPUs when it comes to gaming, but AMD mops the floor with them when it comes to productivity

This laptop has one of the best CPUs (4800H) for productivity of the previous generation:
https://www.coolblue.be/nl/product/869955/lenovo-legion-5-15arh05h-82b100b5mb-azerty.html

It's like 40-50% faster than the Intel CPU in the laptop you listed (10750H) in things like encoding, code compilation.
So you'll get better performance (unless you're doing graphic design or something as well?) and save a lot of money. Hope that helps!
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on June 29, 2021, 10:43:04 pm
If you're not gaming on it you can definitely save a LOT of money:
1) That graphics card is overkill, plus RTX (real time raytracing) will be irrelevant.
2) There would be an argument for Intel CPUs when it comes to gaming, but AMD mops the floor with them when it comes to productivity

This laptop has one of the best CPUs (4800H) for productivity of the previous generation:
https://www.coolblue.be/nl/product/869955/lenovo-legion-5-15arh05h-82b100b5mb-azerty.html

It's like 40-50% faster than the Intel CPU in the laptop you listed (10750H) in things like encoding, code compilation.
So you'll get better performance (unless you're doing graphic design or something as well?) and save a lot of money. Hope that helps!
Yeah it's just for programming (apps, games, software, etc...). I have photoshop and other graphics design tools on my main PC, so that's not really a problem. I'm gonna get this one then. Is indeed a bit cheaper. Thanks a lot. :)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Bunvald on July 13, 2021, 05:13:53 pm
Is it profitable now to buy last year's top models of laptops for games?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: mikakenzoiz on July 21, 2021, 10:14:38 pm
*snip*
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on September 07, 2021, 09:17:43 am
Yo, I am looking for a new headset. And preferably wired. Which has phenomenal audio quality aswell as very comfortable ear cups. I don't mind the price. I had a few wireless headsets now like the A50 from Astro, but they always give up on me for some reason. Does anyone know some good ones? I'm kind of an audiophile person because I listen to a lot of music as well. I do understand that wired headsets might not give audio quality as good as wireless give in some cases but, I am sure there are some good ones out there.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on September 07, 2021, 05:46:51 pm
Yo, I am looking for a new headset. And preferably wired. Which has phenomenal audio quality aswell as very comfortable ear cups. I don't mind the price. I had a few wireless headsets now like the A50 from Astro, but they always give up on me for some reason. Does anyone know some good ones? I'm kind of an audiophile person because I listen to a lot of music as well. I do understand that wired headsets might not give audio quality as good as wireless give in some cases but, I am sure there are some good ones out there.

You have it backwards, wired headsets usually give the best audio quality.

If you are looking for something budget friendly and you need a gaming headset with a mic. I would highly recommend the SteelSeries Arctis 5 headset. Excellent mic and really good audio with many nice features. You can often get them on sale as well.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on September 07, 2021, 05:52:51 pm
if you're looking for the best sound I think you can't go wrong with anything from audio technica, bose or beyerdynamic, but you'd need a standalone mic obviously

other than that I've been using logitech g pro x headset and both sound and mic are superb for a gaming headset
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on September 07, 2021, 06:59:15 pm
if you're looking for the best sound I think you can't go wrong with anything from audio technica, bose or beyerdynamic, but you'd need a standalone mic obviously

other than that I've been using logitech g pro x headset and both sound and mic are superb for a gaming headset
Audio-Technica actually started doing headsets a while back and from what I hear they are really good actually.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Audio-Technica-ATH-AG1X-High-Fidelity-Closed-Back-Headset/dp/B01AYZZUDC/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=audio+technica+headset&qid=1631033899&sr=8-5

There are some cheaper options but in the UK they are like only £10 cheaper so its like well why not get the better ones for that difference.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Fartknocker on September 07, 2021, 07:03:07 pm
What’s the best build I could get for like $1200-1500. Would I be able to get a 30 series card and still be chillin with the rest of the setup
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on September 07, 2021, 07:40:03 pm
What’s the best build I could get for like $1200-1500. Would I be able to get a 30 series card and still be chillin with the rest of the setup
Not a 30 series card these days, not unless you want to be on a waiting list for many months.

Not sure about what you can get in the US, but for about £1200 GBP recently I built this for my nephew:

2080ti (second hand we can get deals for like 400-500
R9 5900x (new) £420 (on sale new) - Stock cooler initially, now they put a aio in it
1000w corsair psu £150
16GB Corsair RAM £100
Case I already had, worth about 90
Some drives I had laying around, probably worth like 200. Couple SSD's for boot and games + a HDD
MSI WiFi Motherboard around £180


Would be a bit over your budget but its for editing and gaming, you should drop down to a 5700x but even then a 3700x would work basically the same and would save you loads.

If you need help, I helped Wastee build a pc which he hasn't had an issue with from when I last spoke to him, drop me a message I don't mind.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: MrTiki on September 11, 2021, 08:38:54 pm
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/m3n4xc

That's the basics for $870, minus a graphics card (buy used) and a case which is personal preference for the most part.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on September 11, 2021, 08:55:47 pm
Its really sad rn tbh, you could build a great PC for under $1k in 2019. Now you're just completely fucked.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on September 21, 2021, 12:50:14 am
anyone selling their 2080/ti?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: 19boboy97 on September 21, 2021, 11:47:50 am
Fietta puts his Gaming PC Build in his Steam Profile, go check it out
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Melsyo on October 02, 2021, 03:56:27 pm
Fietta puts his Gaming PC Build in his Steam Profile, go check it out
yeah you could be the first person to care!
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Olafson on October 03, 2021, 11:08:30 pm
I still have 64 GB of 3600 Ram for sale
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: JollyCanadian on October 04, 2021, 12:58:21 am
I still have 64 GB of 3600 Ram for sale
"Clean title, never rendered. I know what I have"
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on October 04, 2021, 02:13:27 am
I still have 64 GB of 3600 Ram for sale
and my other pc is happy with the other 64!
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on October 04, 2021, 05:41:23 am
if you're looking for the best sound I think you can't go wrong with anything from audio technica, bose or beyerdynamic, but you'd need a standalone mic obviously

other than that I've been using logitech g pro x headset and both sound and mic are superb for a gaming headset
Audio-Technica actually started doing headsets a while back and from what I hear they are really good actually.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Audio-Technica-ATH-AG1X-High-Fidelity-Closed-Back-Headset/dp/B01AYZZUDC/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=audio+technica+headset&qid=1631033899&sr=8-5

There are some cheaper options but in the UK they are like only £10 cheaper so its like well why not get the better ones for that difference.
I mean if you really wanted to go all the way, some of AT's broadcast headsets are like $150-200 and they sound pretty good. I know a lot of events have used them because they are pretty cheap. Personally I have the BPHS1 which I got for like 150 on ebay and it's good though I do just use a standalone mic and headphones most of the time.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on October 18, 2021, 09:25:44 pm
Just pre ordered the 512GB Steam Deck - It looks like exactly what I want from a laptop. Can open any application I might need to use yet also play games in a handheld form factor.

Will be using this to replace my travel laptop which is the Dell Workstation 3530 which is a chonker. Only thing is we don't know much about the OS
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on October 18, 2021, 09:27:57 pm
Just pre ordered the 512GB Steam Deck - It looks like exactly what I want from a laptop. Can open any application I might need to use yet also play games in a handheld form factor.

Will be using this to replace my travel laptop which is the Dell Workstation 3530 which is a chonker. Only thing is we don't know much about the OS
Q2 2022 Lets go! 8)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on October 18, 2021, 10:00:56 pm
Ye men
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Elias on December 16, 2021, 10:43:31 am
Can someone tell me the differences between 3600, 3600X and 3600XT?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on December 16, 2021, 11:43:24 am
Can someone tell me the differences between 3600, 3600X and 3600XT?
3600X has a higher base core clock than the 3600 and comes with a better cooler. Then TL;DR its basically the same for the 3600X and 3600XT

Architecture wise they are exactly the same. Same Cores, Cache etc.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Elias on December 16, 2021, 12:37:35 pm
Can someone tell me the differences between 3600, 3600X and 3600XT?
3600X has a higher base core clock than the 3600 and comes with a better cooler. Then TL;DR its basically the same for the 3600X and 3600XT

Architecture wise they are exactly the same. Same Cores, Cache etc.

thanks m8
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on October 17, 2022, 03:57:32 pm
Just pre ordered the 512GB Steam Deck - It looks like exactly what I want from a laptop. Can open any application I might need to use yet also play games in a handheld form factor.

Will be using this to replace my travel laptop which is the Dell Workstation 3530 which is a chonker. Only thing is we don't know much about the OS
Do you like the Steam deck? I'm thinking of getting it but I'm not really sure.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on October 17, 2022, 06:19:44 pm
Its a great piece of kit. Being a linux based system and you can replace the drive makes it a monster in terms of posibility.

I've split my mini review up:

Cool Features


So you can either run the Steam OS, which basically just looks like the Steam desktop app but with more too it, but you can also run it in Desktop Mode which is literally just linux meaning you can do anything you want (within the limitations of Linux naturally).

Personally I have it setup to dual boot so I can emulate anything Nintendo, Ps2/Ps3 etc. whilst also having the Steam OS installed to run whatever games I want. I will say that the controls depending on what games you play can feel a little janky, but for FPS games I recommend just using aim assist as you would with a console game. Makes it much more playable.

For example I tried running Assassins Creed 2 on it but when free running I would run up the wrong walls etc. as the controller support for the PC version is ass. HOWEVER! One cool thing is not only can you remap buttons yourself (even on older emulated games), there are button mappings that people upload to the Steam Workshop. So chances are if you download a game, someone has already done it for you!

Performance

Performance is fantastic. I haven't really needed to turn any games down to keep it locked at 60fps. Although, I will say that I am only playing slightly older single player games on it. If I wanted to play Elden Ring for example, I'd just do it on my PC. Speaking of Elden Ring, it had some slight performance issues when it first released, but turn some settings down to medium and it runs flawlessly. In the example picture I am playing Bioshock and it literally never drops below 60fps even during a boss fight with tons of explosions on highest graphics.

Even when running quite intensive loads I barely hear the fan on the latest updates.

Main Issues

My main 3 gripes with it at the moment are:

1. Game support is a little slow, although thats not entirely Steams fault. A lot of games you can play and will work on Steam Deck, but there will be very small issues that are frustrating. Like maybe a UI element won't scale properly etc. Also games require decent controller support which is a pain in the ass. Although this isn't a problem with running an emulator like Ryujinx as it just shows up as a normal controller. One other issue is it depends on developers how good the support is going to be. For example 2k Games literally broke Bioshock on the Switch because it now requires a dumbass 2k Games launcher (with a cash shop obviously) to launch. But you can work around it.

2. Battery life DRAAAAAINS quite fast when you are not even using it. Like I haven't used it in 2 days and I just tried to power it on and it was dead. AFAIK it had like 50% battery when I put it down lol. When it completely drains it takes like 30 minutes just to get enough power in it to turn it on. I was going to take a picture or two of it in action and its completely dead right now.

3. Games can take AAAGES to launch. Steam is essentially running them in an emulator and it just takes forever sometimes. I've been playing Bioshock infinite on it and it takes literally 5 minutes to get the main menu. Not a huge deal, but sometimes you can't even tell if the games going to launch or not lol

The Dock from Steam literally only released a few days ago so I haven't bought it yet. I imagine the whole battery draining issue would be less aids once you can leave it in the dock to charge when not using it. Although Steam have said that docking station support is universal, so you could buy a cheap one from Amazon and still get functionality out of it.

EDIT: Finally got enough juice in her to show a little

Infront of my full sized keyboard for comparison
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Running Bioshock Infinite, everything on Ultra except Shadows and Ambient Occlusion (Screen isn't big enough for higher settings to make a difference, you could get away with lowering Anti Aliasing as well)
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How desktop mode looks
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My conclusion

I bought it literally just to replace the need to take my big old Dell laptop (which has a dedicated GPU etc.) with me when I travel. When I travel for work I kind of had to choose between my own laptop for longer trips and my work laptop. It could do anything my work laptop does, but it wasn't ideal. With the Steam deck I can take it WITH my work laptop and if I know its going to be a longer trip, I can take a controller and the dock to plug it into a TV at whichever Hotel/Airbnb I am staying it. Thats where I think the Steam Deck is great, it can replace a laptop and be good at it. All while fitting everything inside one case which goes into my engineering backpack.

Its a chonker, its not light. So its not something I would be playing while laying in bed. I already have a habit of dropping my phone on my face when I'm tired. This thing would literally break my nose lmao.

I'm not worried about the game support going forwards as Valve is slowly updating and developers know that all games released on steam will be made available on the deck, so its worth spending a little extra dev time to improve the support. My issues with the game support and controller support is something that will get fixed with time.

A lot of games on Steam even if they aren't labelled as "Great on Deck" which is full support, a lot of them like Bioshock Infinite are just "Playable". Which really doesn't mean that its not fully supported, you can view the details on the store:

Spoiler
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Thanks for coming to my ted talk.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Knightmare on October 17, 2022, 06:56:25 pm
tldr?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on October 17, 2022, 07:08:40 pm
tldr?
Thats what the Conclusion bit is for you fuckin mongo
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on October 17, 2022, 07:15:44 pm
Thanks for the in-depth review though. Is it needed to have more storage? Like replacing the ssd with something bigger like say 1TB? I've seen on reddit that people replaced them because the original wasn't enough. Other than that the things you said in this post made it more likely for me to get one. An other thing, so you can go to steam workshop on the steam deck and download a button lay-out for a certain game? How does this work?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on October 17, 2022, 07:36:55 pm
Thanks for the in-depth review though. Is it needed to have more storage? Like replacing the ssd with something bigger like say 1TB? I've seen on reddit that people replaced them because the original wasn't enough. Other than that the things you said in this post made it more likely for me to get one. An other thing, so you can go to steam workshop on the steam deck and download a button lay-out for a certain game? How does this work?
Well basically, when you load up a game and hit the steam button, you can change the controller layout. Every game has a standard recommended one, then some templates that just work with most games, then there's another section for community ones. Its like a 1mb download that gives you extra controller layout options.

Devil May Cry for example
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I probably won't change the SSD in mine until I upgrade my gaming PC next year, then the steam deck can just use the 1TB one already in my PC. I have 11 games installed atm:

The Ascent
Doom
Batman Arkham Asylum
Halo MCC
Kingdom Come Deliverance
MGSV The Phantom Pain
Monster Hunter Rise
Bioshock Infinite
Devil May Cry 2013
Rocket League
Fallout 4

Thats just under 90GB Free space out of the 465GB usable. If we are honest, who would ever need that many games installed on the Steam Deck at once. Especially when you consider my Switch which I am now selling literally only holds 1 game without an SD card.

On another note, you can buy decently fast SD cards off Amazon that will be fine for use with the deck. But you can also just move the games to and from the SD card as you use them if you are worried about the games being slow. Changing out the SSD is just unnecessary unless you intend to do a lot with the desktop mode. Personally, I don't store anything on the device. I just use Chrome in desktop mode to access Google Drive etc. Office.com to edit any documents for work if I want to.

One thing I hadn't really tested but the touch pad underneath the right joystick can be used for precise aiming in FPS games etc. and it works way better than I thought it would lol
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on October 17, 2022, 08:44:18 pm
Yeah that's a fair point. I won't be putting a lot of games on the Steam Deck I guess I'll just keep the original SD storage. Thanks for the clarification. I might pick it up very soon-ish. I just wish we could already see which games would work well whilst not owning a Steam Deck.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on October 17, 2022, 10:28:25 pm
Yeah that's a fair point. I won't be putting a lot of games on the Steam Deck I guess I'll just keep the original SD storage. Thanks for the clarification. I might pick it up very soon-ish. I just wish we could already see which games would work well whilst not owning a Steam Deck.
You can: https://www.steamdeck.com/en/verified

https://store.steampowered.com/greatondeck?offset=24

(https://i.gyazo.com/8f6093cbd2dadc9dc0ca528e09a7d708.png)
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on October 28, 2022, 01:24:32 pm
I decided to quit a hobby I had for a long time. Sold a lot of stuff that gave me a lot of money back that I want to invest in a next-gen gaming PC.

I've been asking several people which CPU and GPU I should get but since I have to change my motherboard and RAM and everything I think it's better that I build a completely new gaming desktop. I am not tech savvy and believe me I have been searching for stuff but I feel completely lost as I have no knowledge of all this. I just want the fastest and strongest CPU, the best GPU on the market right now (even though it will probably be overkill I am looking at the 40 series of nvidia, although I have seen videos of the cables being burnt), and some ultra fast SSD storage, preferably around 4 TB. I would also like 64 GB of RAM because I use video editing programs, Photoshop and I game a lot. Also a good motherboard to fit all these things. About the cooling, on my current PC I have custom built EKWB Quantum Hardline Liquid Cooling. If it is possible, I would like it back in my next setup again. Also some extra information, I game in 1080p resolution, but I want to max out any FPS I can get to get the smoothest experience. I want a card that also handles 4K very well since I'm planning to go 4K soon. Can anyone help me to find a next-gen build to cover all this?

My budget will be around €7000,00
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Chainsor on October 28, 2022, 01:58:24 pm
You'll definitely get the best setup possible with that budget. Good to really good gaming pc builds are around 1-3k I'd say. When I built my own PC 2 years ago I had help of my colleagues who all are IT guys (PC worth around 1,5k). Since im still an intern i cant really give you a lot of help, but I could send you 1-2 things I feel like are really good that I use plus the costs arent too high so you dont have to invest everything you have
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on October 28, 2022, 02:02:24 pm
You'll definitely get the best setup possible with that budget. Good to really good gaming pc builds are around 1-3k I'd say. When I built my own PC 2 years ago I had help of my colleagues who all are IT guys (PC worth around 1,5k). Since im still an intern i cant really give you a lot of help, but I could send you 1-2 things I feel like are really good that I use plus the costs arent too high so you dont have to invest everything you have
To be fair, I don't mind spending a lot on it because this money would have gone to my previous hobby anyway. My current PC was 5500 EUR. I am aiming to get the i9 13900K or the Ryzen 9 7950X CPU. And for the GPU I was aiming for the 3090 Ti or the 40 series. But since these cables are being burnt I am not sure to choose which.



I am quoting my previous post again since the beginning of a new page has opened so it makes it easier to look at it.

I decided to quit a hobby I had for a long time. Sold a lot of stuff that gave me a lot of money back that I want to invest in a next-gen gaming PC.

I've been asking several people which CPU and GPU I should get but since I have to change my motherboard and RAM and everything I think it's better that I build a completely new gaming desktop. I am not tech savvy and believe me I have been searching for stuff but I feel completely lost as I have no knowledge of all this. I just want the fastest and strongest CPU, the best GPU on the market right now (even though it will probably be overkill I am looking at the 40 series of nvidia, although I have seen videos of the cables being burnt), and some ultra fast SSD storage, preferably around 4 TB. I would also like 64 GB of RAM because I use video editing programs, Photoshop and I game a lot. Also a good motherboard to fit all these things. About the cooling, on my current PC I have custom built EKWB Quantum Hardline Liquid Cooling. If it is possible, I would like it back in my next setup again. Also some extra information, I game in 1080p resolution, but I want to max out any FPS I can get to get the smoothest experience. I want a card that also handles 4K very well since I'm planning to go 4K soon. Can anyone help me to find a next-gen build to cover all this?

My budget will be around €7000,00
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on October 28, 2022, 07:07:16 pm
Its a design fault with the cable for the 4090, you can replace it yourself until NVidia acknowledge the problem.

If you have the option to choose between the 13900k or the 7950X the choice is obviously the 13900k. Performs better in almost all gaming workloads and a lot of productivity ones as well. Until they release the version of the 7950X with the memory sync stuff its basically pointless for gaming.

As long as your EKWB waterblock covers the socket of the 13900k (Socket 1700, 9900k and my EKWB is for socket 1151 so assuming yours is too) then you will be able to transfer everything over. You will need a new GPU waterblock and new liquid though.

Use this: https://www.ekwb.com/configurator/ - Select your GPU, you MUST choose the correct one so do not buy one of these waterblocks until you actually buy a card. Because they won't always fit. Actually installing a waterblock on a GPU is easy though, just take off some screws, put some pads ontop of certain VRM etc. on the GPU's board and then screw down.

P.S: No fuckin idea what you plan to spend 7k euros on, I just put all parts together in a shopping cart on scan.co.uk (UK only) and it only cost 5k with an over £2000 4090 :D. If you were planning to buy brand new watercooling fittings etc. then yeah it would probably take you closer to 6k. Although I'm gonna be honest, watercooling is beyond pointless for a gamer.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on October 28, 2022, 07:36:17 pm
Yeah, I do think a 3090 Ti will be more than enough for what I'll be doing. I'll also go with the 13900K then. I have been thinking of building an entirely new system. Because my parent's old system is getting worn out so to speak and then I'll give my current PC to them since they said they would give me something for it.

A few parts that I want to include are:

- Intel Core i9-13900K 3 GHz 24-Core Processor
- Asus ROG MAXIMUS Z790 HERO ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (if this is a good option)
- RTX 3090 Ti (don't know which brand is good for example, Asus, Evga etc... since they are a bit different from what I've seen)

I'm also looking for some fast 64 GB RAM and ultra-fast SSD storage, but I really don't know what I'll need to be looking at. There is so much information out there, I just get totally lost and confused.

And yes, if I don't have to spend 7000 that's obviously better. I always thought water cooling was needed because of how hot the 13900K can get. Would a be quiet! Dark Rock Pro be efficient for cooling everything? Also, is it needed to have a bigger power supply? I currently have an 850-watt one, but I read somewhere for these more modern components that you need to be sitting at some 1000 watts or even a bit more. I don't know if it's true, I just read it at some places.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on October 28, 2022, 07:40:54 pm
I would upgrade to 1000w or 1200w.

For storage, choose a motherboard that supports PCIe 4.0 and a likewise SSD like this: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/f3cRsY/samsung-980-pro-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-mz-v8p2t0bam

Assuming the Maximus Z790 supports it, would be surprised if it didnt.

For memory I put this down for mine: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/XDXJ7P/corsair-dominator-platinum-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6200-cl36-memory-cmt32gx5m2x6200c36
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on October 28, 2022, 07:45:37 pm
Yeah, I just took some motherboard that I think would be good. I really have no idea if it's a good motherboard. If you can give me some advice on some really high end, next gen motherboards which are compatible to the i9 13900K and 3090 Ti that would be greatly appreciated as well.

Would the storage that you suggested be like my current ones or even faster?
These are my current ones atm:

RAM: G.Skill 64GB DDR4-3600 4x16GB DDR4
SSD: Corsair Force MP600 2TB
SSD: Sandisk Ultra 3D SSD 2.5"
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on October 28, 2022, 08:05:37 pm
Faster by a lot.

Motherboard is fine. I have one. It supports PCIe 5.0 but there's no SSD's out for that yet. So just use the one you have until it releases.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on October 29, 2022, 08:50:19 pm
Alrighty, thanks a lot for all the help. :)

Just one last question, should I go with Windows 10, or is Windows 11 out of the beta stage and worth it?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on October 29, 2022, 09:14:15 pm
If you even need to ask that question then the answer is obvious, Win 10.

There's no benefits to Win11.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on October 29, 2022, 10:49:48 pm
Yeah, I just saw some articles that Windows 11 improves gaming etc, but Windows 10 works fine for me.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on October 30, 2022, 05:54:39 pm
Yeah, I just saw some articles that Windows 11 improves gaming etc, but Windows 10 works fine for me.

I don't think it would be even noticable with the PC you're going to get :D
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on October 30, 2022, 06:20:30 pm
Hah yes, there is some truth in that.  ;D
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on October 30, 2022, 08:08:21 pm
Is windows 11 better for gaming? Been holding back on updating.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on October 30, 2022, 08:36:51 pm
Is windows 11 better for gaming? Been holding back on updating.
I read some articles that say its better for it. I found this article about now. But I'm not a techy or a software expert by any means...

https://www.ubackup.com/articles/windows-11-vs-windows-10-gaming-jkzbj.html



Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on October 31, 2022, 12:06:39 am
That page is absolute bullshit. Only thing that is right is Auto-HDR which yes is cool but in Win10 you just press a button. Not exactly game breaking.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on October 31, 2022, 12:13:27 am
Do you think Windows 11 will ever get good or is it better to wait for windows 12 if it comes out and if its any better? Because if it's the case about only the HDR feature, I'ma just stick with 10.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on October 31, 2022, 12:15:48 am
Windows 11 does have benefits but it has bigger issues imo.

Reason I switched back to Win10 is because I just randomly after an update started getting garbage performance in my games, CS went from 300 FPS+ to barely able to get 100. Useless for me when I use 240hz monitors
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on October 31, 2022, 12:24:44 am
Yeah, if thats the case Ill keep going with windows 10. Aint no way I am gonna sacrifice that much of fps.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Marceaux on October 31, 2022, 12:37:57 am
Windows 11 does have benefits but it has bigger issues imo.

Reason I switched back to Win10 is because I just randomly after an update started getting garbage performance in my games, CS went from 300 FPS+ to barely able to get 100. Useless for me when I use 240hz monitors

Ok yeah that was my concern since its so new. Ill probably stick with 10 for now.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: finobak on November 06, 2022, 02:27:44 pm
For that money, you can get yourself an RTX3080 and an I9 12900k, which is very powerful.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Kore on November 06, 2022, 02:43:08 pm
He has budget for 4090… why are you suggesting 3080 haha
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on November 06, 2022, 02:50:51 pm
He has budget for 4090… why are you suggesting 3080 haha
Reading that guys previous posts made me realise that the bots are getting smarter
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: AccursedGull on November 09, 2022, 02:26:48 pm
do you think prices for gpu go further down or will go up again. Wondering if it is worth getting a new one now, since the prices dropped in the last few months here
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on November 09, 2022, 02:53:58 pm
They are only going to go down now. Its not COVID era so the sillicon shortage isn't really an issue anymore.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on November 09, 2022, 04:27:00 pm
Other big issue was most GPU’s are made In Taiwan so during covid they had no workforce, the factory’s are now in full swing so GPU’s will become cheaper and cheaper
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on November 09, 2022, 04:46:38 pm
Other big issue was most GPU’s are made In Taiwan so during covid they had no workforce, the factory’s are now in full swing so GPU’s will become cheaper and cheaper
Thats what I meant ^^

"Taiwan makes 65% of the world's semiconductors and almost 90% of advanced chips."
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: BabyJesus on November 09, 2022, 05:54:16 pm
Once the prices go up they don’t like to come down
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on November 09, 2022, 05:58:16 pm
Once the prices go up they don’t like to come down
They already have, its just NVidia with their silly pricing.

AMD's new cards look fantastic
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on November 10, 2022, 02:02:51 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF6cQYCYhLM

Nvidia is a clown show
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on November 10, 2022, 06:55:41 pm
Is it worth it to go from 1080p to 1440p because I am planning to get the ROG Swift PG279QM.
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: John Price on November 10, 2022, 09:21:44 pm
Is it worth it to go from 1080p to 1440p because I am planning to get the ROG Swift PG279QM.
Thats the monitor I have
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Skaen on November 10, 2022, 11:03:15 pm
Is it worth it to go from 1080p to 1440p because I am planning to get the ROG Swift PG279QM.
Thats the monitor I have
Do you like it?
Title: Re: Gaming PC Builds
Post by: Arch4ngel on November 11, 2022, 10:57:17 am
4090 for 3840x1080 monitor worth it?