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Re: RGL - Regimental Groupfighting League (Season 3)
« Reply #525 on: August 22, 2016, 02:51:52 am »
lol wat? If a person is double regging and thus breaking the rules of this tournament why the hell would you let him play in the match. That would just cause more upset and discussion after the game. What you are suggesting here is letting a rule break take place. Then you have even more salt after the match with either side being mad about punishments being too hard/lenient and the possibility of a rematch occurring just because you were to scared to take actual measures. There should always be a ref supervising that knows the rules, that's is their whole purpose. If they do not have the power to prevent rulebreaks from happening why have referees in the first place?

I'm more suggesting that it was brash to ban the opposing regiment's member without fully consulting with the said regiments leader about the current situation of that player. I'm not saying that rules should be enforced after a match has taken place but more the fact that with this particular rule you should either work with the other regiment leader to resolve the issue (For example one could ask them not to play that player unless they have evidence of that player being officially a part  of that regiment) there and then or if you feel that an issue cannot be resolved adequately at that current time, then you should play the match and discuss it afterwards. But banning members for double regging, without even talking with the opposition leader or having substantial evidence is illogical and actually more bias than anything else.
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Re: RGL - Regimental Groupfighting League (Season 3)
« Reply #526 on: August 22, 2016, 03:28:06 am »
I think mouso should talk with referee and organiser that he is facing double regger before ban . Then organiser should contact player and both reg leaders in matter and have a discusion because in this way Kore was not the one to blame in my eyes . Players are leaving reg in this time like nothing so i agree Kore should be in the steam group but he may forgot to accept it - shit happens . He left former regiment and join another . I dont think we should all type in forum thread - player XXXQUICKSCOPPERXXX left NiggaTeamRegiment and join DABESTTEAM . This things are well known in our day by day smaller comunity and many thing are not official stated and you still know them . So please I would gladly ask you reg leaders if you are referees too dont do work of referees and organisers. In my eyes the only person capable to ban players out of match is ref/organiser and from whole tournament - organiser.
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Re: RGL - Regimental Groupfighting League (Season 3)
« Reply #527 on: August 22, 2016, 03:34:35 am »
lol wat? If a person is double regging and thus breaking the rules of this tournament why the hell would you let him play in the match. That would just cause more upset and discussion after the game. What you are suggesting here is letting a rule break take place. Then you have even more salt after the match with either side being mad about punishments being too hard/lenient and the possibility of a rematch occurring just because you were to scared to take actual measures. There should always be a ref supervising that knows the rules, that's is their whole purpose. If they do not have the power to prevent rulebreaks from happening why have referees in the first place?

I'm more suggesting that it was brash to ban the opposing regiment's member without fully consulting with the said regiments leader about the current situation of that player. I'm not saying that rules should be enforced after a match has taken place but more the fact that with this particular rule you should either work with the other regiment leader to resolve the issue (For example one could ask them not to play that player unless they have evidence of that player being officially a part  of that regiment) there and then or if you feel that an issue cannot be resolved adequately at that current time, then you should play the match and discuss it afterwards. But banning members for double regging, without even talking with the opposition leader or having substantial evidence is illogical and actually more bias than anything else.

Ok clearly you're just being butthurt and salty now from my previous posts about 63e pussying out like some little bitch. But honestly give it a rest. If you are an illiterate then I certainly can't help you. But the rules clearly state:

1.1.3. Invites aren't allowed.
1.1.4. You are only allowed to play for ONE Regiment. You can NOT be in 2 Regiments that both participate.
1.1.5. If you are not in the Steam group of a Regiment during the match you are considered as an Invite.

And I have stated before several times now that sky confirmed that Kore was not part of the 17e group 10 minutes after 7 pm UK Time when the match was going to start. Rommel himself can go check the logs if he feels the need to confirm any of this. Worst part is that it's not even a big deal, and I don't think 17e gives too much shit about it considering they won, and I certainly don't. Even Kore probably gives two fucks about it as well. We all know what happened, Kore got caught red-handed and there is no denying it. I simply prevented that after getting a CLEAR confirmation of Kore not being part of 17e group when the match was beginning (during overtime because of slow joining from the 17e leader, and balancing). So why don't you act like a good little boy and stay away from this thread? Considering you're no longer in this league and you're not looking to ref anything in the future, your opinion is as much valued as that of Trump regarding the Mexican border.

And Salakien, Kore could've easily prevented this by just joining the group before the match started. apparently he didn't know he had to, but now he does. And so a lesson is learned. Just keep that knowledge and move on really...

A last tip for all the other reg leaders, read the rules. It is not rocket science, honestly.

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Re: RGL - Regimental Groupfighting League (Season 3)
« Reply #528 on: August 22, 2016, 03:34:46 am »
*snip* Don't post for another user.
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Re: RGL - Regimental Groupfighting League (Season 3)
« Reply #529 on: August 22, 2016, 03:57:00 am »
lol wat? If a person is double regging and thus breaking the rules of this tournament why the hell would you let him play in the match. That would just cause more upset and discussion after the game. What you are suggesting here is letting a rule break take place. Then you have even more salt after the match with either side being mad about punishments being too hard/lenient and the possibility of a rematch occurring just because you were to scared to take actual measures. There should always be a ref supervising that knows the rules, that's is their whole purpose. If they do not have the power to prevent rulebreaks from happening why have referees in the first place?

I'm more suggesting that it was brash to ban the opposing regiment's member without fully consulting with the said regiments leader about the current situation of that player. I'm not saying that rules should be enforced after a match has taken place but more the fact that with this particular rule you should either work with the other regiment leader to resolve the issue (For example one could ask them not to play that player unless they have evidence of that player being officially a part  of that regiment) there and then or if you feel that an issue cannot be resolved adequately at that current time, then you should play the match and discuss it afterwards. But banning members for double regging, without even talking with the opposition leader or having substantial evidence is illogical and actually more bias than anything else.

Ok clearly you're just being butthurt and salty now from my previous posts about 63e pussying out like some little bitch. But honestly give it a rest. If you are an illiterate then I certainly can't help you. But the rules clearly state:

1.1.3. Invites aren't allowed.
1.1.4. You are only allowed to play for ONE Regiment. You can NOT be in 2 Regiments that both participate.
1.1.5. If you are not in the Steam group of a Regiment during the match you are considered as an Invite.

And I have stated before several times now that sky confirmed that Kore was not part of the 17e group 10 minutes after 7 pm UK Time when the match was going to start. Rommel himself can go check the logs if he feels the need to confirm any of this. Worst part is that it's not even a big deal, and I don't think 17e gives too much shit about it considering they won, and I certainly don't. Even Kore probably gives two fucks about it as well. We all know what happened, Kore got caught red-handed and there is no denying it. I simply prevented that after getting a CLEAR confirmation of Kore not being part of 17e group when the match was beginning (during overtime because of slow joining from the 17e leader, and balancing). So why don't you act like a good little boy and stay away from this thread? Considering you're no longer in this league and you're not looking to ref anything in the future, your opinion is as much valued as that of Trump regarding the Mexican border.

And Salakien, Kore could've easily prevented this by just joining the group before the match started. apparently he didn't know he had to, but now he does. And so a lesson is learned. Just keep that knowledge and move on really...

A last tip for all the other reg leaders, read the rules. It is not rocket science, honestly.

Funny thing I made 100% sure that all of the people that got to play tonight were in the steamgroup, even though with Kore it was a bit late I do admit it was rather obvious he rejoined the 17e otherwise he would not be playing for us as I dont see the point to risk a place in this league by using invites lol.

''A last tip for all the other reg leaders, read the rules. It is not rocket science, honestly.''

Oh and regarding the rules I did read them. now please Moussolini you said several times now you would not continue the discussion on this topic but yet again here you are ranting about it.

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Re: RGL - Regimental Groupfighting League (Season 3)
« Reply #530 on: August 22, 2016, 06:29:39 am »
Aight, why you guys throwing Dirt at each other? Fact is: Kore wasnt in the Group at the official match Time. Point. That means he wasnt allowed and since we had a full server getting kicked out the Match.

If Sky now told Mousso that SoH's arent usually in the Group because most of them seem to play for other regs usually beneath RGL doesnt matter. Sky doesnt make the Rules he should just enforce them.

A roster would be actually nice Pieter, its ok you are watching out for double reggers but if you understand other Regs have maybe concern about that. Since its not that hard Work it should be possible.

17e still won in a very close, intense and beautiful Match. 2 Strong Regs fought with even less salt than i expected (and less you guys create here). They Played better this Time even tho the close result says me there will be more close Fight in the Future:)

Rest of what you Guys doing here is just bullshit...
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Re: RGL - Regimental Groupfighting League (Season 3)
« Reply #531 on: August 22, 2016, 08:00:39 am »
Aight, why you guys throwing Dirt at each other? Fact is: Kore wasnt in the Group at the official match Time. Point. That means he wasnt allowed and since we had a full server getting kicked out the Match.

If Sky now told Mousso that SoH's arent usually in the Group because most of them seem to play for other regs usually beneath RGL doesnt matter. Sky doesnt make the Rules he should just enforce them.

A roster would be actually nice Pieter, its ok you are watching out for double reggers but if you understand other Regs have maybe concern about that. Since its not that hard Work it should be possible.

17e still won in a very close, intense and beautiful Match. 2 Strong Regs fought with even less salt than i expected (and less you guys create here). They Played better this Time even tho the close result says me there will be more close Fight in the Future:)

Rest of what you Guys doing here is just bullshit...

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Re: RGL - Regimental Groupfighting League (Season 3)
« Reply #532 on: August 22, 2016, 09:30:00 am »
If Sky now told Mousso that SoH's arent usually in the Group because most of them seem to play for other regs usually beneath RGL doesnt matter. Sky doesnt make the Rules he should just enforce them.

SoHs aren't in the group because they don't like announcement spam for irrelevant events.

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Re: RGL - Regimental Groupfighting League (Season 3)
« Reply #533 on: August 22, 2016, 09:34:59 am »
If Sky now told Mousso that SoH's arent usually in the Group because most of them seem to play for other regs usually beneath RGL doesnt matter. Sky doesnt make the Rules he should just enforce them.

SoHs aren't in the group because they don't like announcement spam for irrelevant events.
1.1.5. If you are not in the Steam group of a Regiment during the match you are considered as an Invite.

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Re: RGL - Regimental Groupfighting League (Season 3)
« Reply #534 on: August 22, 2016, 10:11:06 am »
What is this nonsense discussion about banning Kore or not ? We all know Kore is famous sideblocker he may or may not (99%) have effected the score at all so you guys all chill . I played in aswell as SoH for 17e I was not in steam group and joined in before 20 min match to start , the rule saying a player that joins steam group after the match time can not be allowed to play is silly . Double-regging should be investigated but silly things like that will just make more people go salty over it , so as I said Kore is known sideblocker probably he wouldnt have effected the match score in anyway(no offence Core) . So in my opinion its rather irrelevant whether he would have played or not .

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Re: RGL - Regimental Groupfighting League (Season 3)
« Reply #535 on: August 22, 2016, 10:42:39 am »
Close match,
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Re: RGL - Regimental Groupfighting League (Season 3)
« Reply #536 on: August 22, 2016, 11:26:30 am »
I'm pretty sure Kore played in most non-NA events we've had since reforming. At least the ones I've been in.

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Re: RGL - Regimental Groupfighting League (Season 3)
« Reply #537 on: August 22, 2016, 12:34:15 pm »
Alright let me put it like this: I didn't know that Kore rejoined 17e untill like a week ago. Considering he was not in the 17e steam group by the time the match took place is a huge mistake by him and banning him was absolutely correct when you follow the rules closely. If you don't want to stick your SoH's in a group they can't play. It must not be the main group but some kind of seperate group, thats the same as I wanted the 15th back in  the NLC to make a similar group.

1.1.5. If you are not in the Steam group of a Regiment during the match you are considered as an Invite.

I think the meaning of this rule is very clear: Whoever is not in your steam group, is not in your regiment, Kore was there for an invite at the time.

What is this nonsense discussion about banning Kore or not ? We all know Kore is famous sideblocker he may or may not (99%) have effected the score at all so you guys all chill . I played in aswell as SoH for 17e I was not in steam group and joined in before 20 min match to start , the rule saying a player that joins steam group after the match time can not be allowed to play is silly . Double-regging should be investigated but silly things like that will just make more people go salty over it , so as I said Kore is known sideblocker probably he wouldnt have effected the match score in anyway(no offence Core) . So in my opinion its rather irrelevant whether he would have played or not .
How would we know if you are in there or not? 17e hasn't updated their roster since they reformed either, so you can not confirm that you are in the regiment. This isn't in any way different for people that are appearently considered "too good" for ordinary steam group spam. I urge you to put all of them in a group as quick as you can Pieter. You have read the rules and agreed to them so i don't know how it didn't come clear to you that these players might need a group aswell. I will not go and punish anyone here, because at the end of the day i want to get this RGL through with trust rather than salt, but, as I said, you are going against the rules with this one even tho at the end of the day I believe that all of them are actually in the 17e.
A last tip for all the other reg leaders, read the rules. It is not rocket science, honestly.
Yes please! The rules are not only relevant for regimental leaders, but also for players like Kore.
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Re: RGL - Regimental Groupfighting League (Season 3)
« Reply #538 on: August 22, 2016, 12:34:46 pm »
What is this nonsense discussion about banning Kore or not ? We all know Kore is famous sideblocker he may or may not (99%) have effected the score at all so you guys all chill . I played in aswell as SoH for 17e I was not in steam group and joined in before 20 min match to start , the rule saying a player that joins steam group after the match time can not be allowed to play is silly . Double-regging should be investigated but silly things like that will just make more people go salty over it , so as I said Kore is known sideblocker probably he wouldnt have effected the match score in anyway(no offence Core) . So in my opinion its rather irrelevant whether he would have played or not .

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Re: RGL - Regimental Groupfighting League (Season 3)
« Reply #539 on: August 22, 2016, 12:39:06 pm »
If Sky now told Mousso that SoH's arent usually in the Group because most of them seem to play for other regs usually beneath RGL doesnt matter. Sky doesnt make the Rules he should just enforce them.

SoHs aren't in the group because they don't like announcement spam for irrelevant events.
1.1.5. If you are not in the Steam group of a Regiment during the match you are considered as an Invite.
Tbh that's a stupid rule. When I was Gren in 77y I wasn't in the Steam group and I know plenty of players who did the same to avoid the group spam. Even when I was in 63e I played in two RGL matches without being in the Steam group again to avoid spam. I'm not sticking up for Kore or anything just my opinion on the rule.

You don't have to be in the Steam group to be an official member of the regiment.
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