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Title: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Thunderstormer on February 28, 2017, 11:38:32 am
Duuring at any time can change this. 

I will give this till Mar 3rd at a minimum(see below) before i lock in who can run and put up the thread for people to vote in.  If people are still showing interest in signing up on march 3rd, i will move the deadline back a day or 2.   We are behind on when this should be up, and if people aren't as interested as signing up like they were in the past, then there isn't too much of a reason to wait on voting a few days longer.  I wont change how long the voting period is, just the sign up time period if people are not interested.

The time to apply will end at 12 am on the 4th central US time. so a little under 23 hours from now. 


if i see a troll app, i wont add it.   Consider this your warning.   I'll try and update the op daily, other mods can update it as well. 

candidate format
Name:
EU or NA?:
Are you aware that the position of Community Representative is one of trust and confidence, and do you understand you can be punished for breaking that trust? :
Why should you become CR? :
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Candidates NA:

Pickle
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Name: Pickle

EU or NA?: NA

Are you aware that the position of Community Representative is one of trust and confidence, and do you understand you can be punished for breaking that trust? : Yes, of course.

Why should you become CR? : I've been around since mid 2012 and know or know of most you of you. I believe i'm quite trustworthy and approachable. I would say i'm pretty fair and observant as well. I have experience being in positions of power within the community(NA GF Mod, NANWL Mod, various servers) so I hope I've gained most of your trust and respect. I know some of you probably hold animosity towards me for being banned on NA GF but I have a job to do and I take it seriously without going overboard. I also have experience tending to all sorts of different scenarios(with regiments, NA GF, NANWL), although I know this will be much different. I haven't been too prevalent in participating in or hosting tournaments but I don't really feel like the CR should be a tourney host as that only tends to a section of the community. I probably would host a linebattle though since mostly everyone in the community participates in those. I have a few ideas i'd like to try out to make linebattles more fun for everyone.

I honestly don't have a well thought out agenda at the moment but i'd be willing to settle all sorts of different conflicts and troubles and if elected, I would think of a few things to do(might think of things within the next couple of days too).

I wanted to put myself forward so you all have options. I don't want you guys to just pick your friend, pick someone who you truly believe will make a positive impact on the community. This election really shouldn't just be a popularity contest or a contest of which regiment has the most members with FSE accounts.

Thank you for your time.
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Gluk the walrus

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Name: GlukTheWalrus

EU or NA?: NA

Are you aware that the position of Community Representative is one of trust and confidence, and do you understand you can be punished for breaking that trust?: Yes

Why should you become CR?: My heart has always been with trying to make the community a better place. Often to a silly extent such as boycotting 15thHvB (which worked btw) or telling off Karth whenever he's being a prick in the community. As I've said and as many of you already know, I see myself as more of an event hoster. To me events are what keeps this community alive, it's why we play to begin with. As CR I will actively try to create newer and more imaginative events in the community as well as promoting the events of others. This ofc will not be my only concern, reviving NA1 is still something I support and want to push for. I also ran for CR several times in the past, last election I was 2nd place (lost by 4 votes). Couple other things: Moderator for NANWL, Ex-Mod of TNWL, Shoutbox Mod, Hosted or Admined a ton of events in the past. Friend of Duuring.
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Orcaryo

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Name: Orcaryo
EU or NA?: NA
Are you aware that the position of Community Representative is one of trust and confidence, and do you understand you can be punished for breaking that trust? : Yes
Why should you become CR? : I've been apart of this community for more than 3 years, and have been playing this game for more than 4 years. I've been a server administrator for more than 3 years as well. I've been involved in multiple tournaments such as NANWL. I know how much responsibility this position holds, and I am ready to accept it. Also I have been the CR for the past 2 terms
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Candidates EU:

Riddlez
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Name: Riddlez
EU or NA: EU
Aware of responsibilities and penalties when breaking set rules: Yes
Motivation: I want to continue the work I have put into this community for the past term. If there are any matters within the community, I want to help resolve them, as well as being a connection between the community and the moderation staff/ developers. Currently I am working with orcaryo on a matter that we know is important to the community, will take substantial work to achieven but will, if succesfull, be a constructive aid to this forum, and BCoF, hopefully until the new game is released.  I cannot get into details yet, as we still have to contact the adminstration in detail about our plan, but if it works, of which I am confident it can, it'l be good. Furthermore I would like to suggest some improvements to the forums the coming term and try to engage the community more into the idea of the CRs.
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some things to possibly discuss,

should we keep CRs?

should the term limit be increased to say 3 months, or a different length?


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Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Riddlez on February 28, 2017, 11:56:39 am
I hereby put myself up as EU candidate again. I have nothing much to add since my last app, though I would like to say that Orcaryo and I have recently started to work on something together, which could definitely be benificial to the community. What it is I cannot say yet, but I hope it's constructive enough to last until the release of BCoF
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on February 28, 2017, 12:42:24 pm
I'm putting myself as a candidate for NA once again. A couple of things I would like to say in regards to the whole CR situation,

although I had high hopes for Orcaryo, I was very disappointed in him throughout this term. The whole time i was rooting for him and waiting to see what he would do. He has made some progress for the community but for 2 whole terms, he could have done so much more.

In regards to what Riddlez has just said, i would be very much interested in this idea that you two have and why you don't just share it so that you can have others help out.

Over the two issues brought up by Thunderstromer,

should we keep CRs?
It honestly depends. The role of CR was always very vague. In my mind, the CR has to form some sort of identity for themselves and what the role of CR means to them. Essentially the CR could be anything that the current CR makes of it as a representative of the greater community. I still see a value in CR but the problem with the role of CR is that they aren't sure what they can/should do but like I said, you should form your own identity as CR. If CRs continue to do very little then we may as well get rid of the position. If future CRs begin to step up and form an identity for the role of CR in the community then of course it should stay.

should the term limit be increased to say 3 months, or a different length?
I have no problem with the current length.

I'll be keeping a close eye on this thread and I'm going to be holding every candidate up to scrutiny. This isn't a popularity contest and it shouldn't be treated as one.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Theodin on February 28, 2017, 03:46:25 pm
Even though it seems like Orcaryo hasn't done anything, it's still worth noting that NA seems to be at relative peace. How much that can be attributed to him can be questioned, but it's worth noting
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: BabyJesus on February 28, 2017, 04:54:56 pm
Even though it seems like Orcaryo hasn't done anything, it's still worth noting that NA seems to be at relative peace. How much that can be attributed to him can be questioned, but it's worth noting
but mom the 63e are being mean again :/
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Theodin on February 28, 2017, 05:42:18 pm
Even though it seems like Orcaryo hasn't done anything, it's still worth noting that NA seems to be at relative peace. How much that can be attributed to him can be questioned, but it's worth noting
but mom the 63e are being mean again :/
The 63e are finally sitting quietly in their corner, don't bait them out of it
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Riddlez on February 28, 2017, 05:45:49 pm
The CRs were originally intended to be the link between the community and the mods, in matters that upset or frustrated the community. They can still be sued to settle disputes between memebrs of the community, without the moderation team getting involved. However, I have only twice been requested to do something like this - the community doesn't come to us with problems...

If you want the CRs to be active, give them stuff to do. This may sound lazy, but really the initiative shouldnt have to be with the CRs, as they're facilitators in conflict and shouldnt really invite themselves to it.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: BabyJesus on February 28, 2017, 05:54:03 pm
Even though it seems like Orcaryo hasn't done anything, it's still worth noting that NA seems to be at relative peace. How much that can be attributed to him can be questioned, but it's worth noting
but mom the 63e are being mean again :/
The 63e are finally sitting quietly in their corner, don't bait them out of it
i mean in Orcaryos term they did get in feuds with several regiments and ban them from their server. Isn't one of the CRs jobs to try resolve these feuds?

Unless Orcaryo did some behind the scenes stuff that no one knows about, I don't think he did anything this term.

I like to poke the 63e with a stick so I can get my daily banter in

Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Riddlez on February 28, 2017, 06:20:19 pm
i mean in Orcaryos term they did get in feuds with several regiments and ban them from their server. Isn't one of the CRs jobs to try resolve these feuds?

He'd have to have known about it. But yes, if his help was requested, then indeed it'd have been his job.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Pickle on February 28, 2017, 11:40:42 pm
The CRs were originally intended to be the link between the community and the mods, in matters that upset or frustrated the community. They can still be sued to settle disputes between memebrs of the community, without the moderation team getting involved. However, I have only twice been requested to do something like this - the community doesn't come to us with problems...

If you want the CRs to be active, give them stuff to do. This may sound lazy, but really the initiative shouldnt have to be with the CRs, as they're facilitators in conflict and shouldnt really invite themselves to it.
I think that if the communities and individuals want things to be done they need to come forward with their problems so the CRs can help. Everyone needs to help themselves out a little as well we can't just put blame on the CRs for not doing anything productive if they don't exactly know what needs to be attended to.

The CR should act like the Avatar and be the bridge between the Spirit World(Mods and Devs) and the Human World(EU and NA communities).



On a side note I may consider running.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on February 28, 2017, 11:53:56 pm
Name: Dan the Chef

EU or NA?: NA

Are you aware that the position of Community Representative is one of trust and confidence, and do you understand you can be punished for breaking that trust? : Yes

Why should you become CR? : I wish to make this community great again! I am the Commander and Chief on this forum and wish that the game and forum would prosper! I have experience with community outreach projects, tournaments and leagues, and administration. Throughout my years of playing Mount and Blade, whether it be NW, PW, or some other mod, I have attempted to help it expand and prosper. That is my goal if I was to before community rep. I wish to have more tournaments and events for not only the competitive side of NW but to help the community to become more unified. I wish to get rid of the divides in the community and the rivals and mend any broken bridges.
Make FSE Great Again!
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Orcaryo on March 01, 2017, 12:02:33 am
i mean in Orcaryos term they did get in feuds with several regiments and ban them from their server. Isn't one of the CRs jobs to try resolve these feuds?

He'd have to have known about it. But yes, if his help was requested, then indeed it'd have been his job.
I was notified of an incident involving the 63e and NANWL, but this was while I was away from my computer on vacation. I did tell amit through the steam mobile app however that he had my support in running NANWL himself instead of the 63e if that counts for anything. When I returned 2 days later it appeared to have been resolved.

Aside from that I attempted to aid Silly in reviving NA1 which lasted for a brief week due to the community losing interest in the server, ran a successful weekly duel tourny, and helped a few other people with minor requests, an example being IB requesting a sub board for a cav tournament, and asking the mods to ban bill permanently. I also wanted to help Amit with NANWL but he decided to reject my mod/ref application(still salty jkjk)

In regards to what Riddlez has just said, i would be very much interested in this idea that you two have and why you don't just share it so that you can have others help out.
Check your steam, that msg was sent to multiple people, after reading that, you will know what you can do to help out
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: The Predurrdurr on March 01, 2017, 12:03:04 am
Name: Dan the Chef

EU or NA?: NA

Are you aware that the position of Community Representative is one of trust and confidence, and do you understand you can be punished for breaking that trust? : Yes

Why should you become CR? : I wish to make this community great again! I am the Commander and Chief on this forum and wish that the game and forum would prosper! I have experience with community outreach projects, tournaments and leagues, and administration. Throughout my years of playing Mount and Blade, whether it be NW, PW, or some other mod, I have attempted to help it expand and prosper. That is my goal if I was to before community rep. I wish to have more tournaments and events for not only the competitive side of NW but to help the community to become more unified. I wish to get rid of the divides in the community and the rivals and mend any broken bridges.
Make FSE Great Again!

Dan's/newest/google/search/be/like
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Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Orcaryo on March 01, 2017, 12:03:19 am
I will also be running for election again
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Jakester on March 01, 2017, 12:15:13 am
NA Canidates, do us well!
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on March 01, 2017, 12:30:05 am
Name: Dan the Chef

EU or NA?: NA

Are you aware that the position of Community Representative is one of trust and confidence, and do you understand you can be punished for breaking that trust? : Yes

Why should you become CR? : I wish to make this community great again! I am the Commander and Chief on this forum and wish that the game and forum would prosper! I have experience with community outreach projects, tournaments and leagues, and administration. Throughout my years of playing Mount and Blade, whether it be NW, PW, or some other mod, I have attempted to help it expand and prosper. That is my goal if I was to before community rep. I wish to have more tournaments and events for not only the competitive side of NW but to help the community to become more unified. I wish to get rid of the divides in the community and the rivals and mend any broken bridges.
Make FSE Great Again!

Dan's/newest/google/search/be/like
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(https://i.imgur.com/OR6b7rD.png)
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oh you know it
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Xethos on March 01, 2017, 12:45:51 am
Aside from that I attempted to aid Silly in reviving NA1 which lasted for a brief week due to the community losing interest in the server, ran a successful weekly duel tourny, and helped a few other people with minor requests, an example being IB requesting a sub board for a cav tournament, and asking the mods to ban bill permanently. I also wanted to help Amit with NANWL but he decided to reject my mod/ref application(still salty jkjk)

I've also heard that you were going to get the NA1 event restarted, but that nothing came of it. Where was the breakdown there?
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on March 01, 2017, 03:02:42 am
I will also be running for election again
Are you really sure you would want to do that? If i was the rep I may decide to run for a second term at most and even that would be pushing it. I think it's important to have different people take the reigns. It's a bad precedent to set if the same person keeps running and winning over and over again. This is nothing personal towards you Orcaryo as I would say this to anyone. The same applies to Riddlez. You're still the CR for a little while longer so you can still do the thing you messaged me about.

Name: Dan the Chef

EU or NA?: NA

Are you aware that the position of Community Representative is one of trust and confidence, and do you understand you can be punished for breaking that trust? : Yes

Why should you become CR? : I wish to make this community great again! I am the Commander and Chief on this forum and wish that the game and forum would prosper! I have experience with community outreach projects, tournaments and leagues, and administration. Throughout my years of playing Mount and Blade, whether it be NW, PW, or some other mod, I have attempted to help it expand and prosper. That is my goal if I was to before community rep. I wish to have more tournaments and events for not only the competitive side of NW but to help the community to become more unified. I wish to get rid of the divides in the community and the rivals and mend any broken bridges.
Make FSE Great Again!
Good luck m8 :)
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Risk_ on March 01, 2017, 03:51:03 am
NA Canidates, do us well!
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Pickle on March 01, 2017, 04:31:17 am
Name: Pickle

EU or NA?: NA

Are you aware that the position of Community Representative is one of trust and confidence, and do you understand you can be punished for breaking that trust? : Yes, of course.

Why should you become CR? : I've been around since mid 2012 and know or know of most you of you. I believe i'm quite trustworthy and approachable. I would say i'm pretty fair and observant as well. I have experience being in positions of power within the community(NA GF Mod, NANWL Mod, various servers) so I hope I've gained most of your trust and respect. I know some of you probably hold animosity towards me for being banned on NA GF but I have a job to do and I take it seriously without going overboard. I also have experience tending to all sorts of different scenarios(with regiments, NA GF, NANWL), although I know this will be much different. I haven't been too prevalent in participating in or hosting tournaments but I don't really feel like the CR should be a tourney host as that only tends to a section of the community. I probably would host a linebattle though since mostly everyone in the community participates in those. I have a few ideas i'd like to try out to make linebattles more fun for everyone.

I honestly don't have a well thought out agenda at the moment but i'd be willing to settle all sorts of different conflicts and troubles and if elected, I would think of a few things to do(might think of things within the next couple of days too).

I wanted to put myself forward so you all have options. I don't want you guys to just pick your friend, pick someone who you truly believe will make a positive impact on the community. This election really shouldn't just be a popularity contest or a contest of which regiment has the most members with FSE accounts.

Thank you for your time.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on March 01, 2017, 05:07:24 am
I like Orcaryo, Dan, and Pickle as people. Don't think they would be the CRs we need though.

Orcaryo, has not done a whole lot as the CR to be honest. I think previous CRs have completed more in one term (Which was the precedent set for NA CRs, which Orcaryo broke, worth noting) than Orcaryo has really completed in both his terms. To be fair with him though, NA is rather dead at the moment. Far more dead than it has been at any point. The worst thing that can happen in the community right now is for nothing to change, for the status quo to continue. However, there is opportunity here.

While Dan and Pickle are merely speculation on my part as to not being the CR we need, and I am more than willing to give them a chance. So, why do I say Dan and Pickle aren't the CRs we need? I just simply think that they would not do much to bring anything fresh to the community or the position of CR. They are just two more people that fit the mold of someone who has been playing NW for a while and are just decently popular in the community. Maybe they will be good CRs, maybe they won't, but I feel if I had to take a chance on someone here, I would take a chance on the person who least fits the norm for who has been NA CRs thus far.

That person would be Gluk. He is not someone in the upper echelons of the NA community, who has been playing for years and years and accumulated 1000s of hours like all the other CRs/Applicants. To me, he has always seemed to want to serve a community oriented role, and I think that is what we need right now. I think his somewhat outsider perspective could well bring something fresh to the role, something we desperately need.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Theodin on March 01, 2017, 05:50:50 am
Outside of what Apoc?
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Thunderstormer on March 01, 2017, 05:58:16 am
Riddlez and orcaryo will need to make new apps if they want to run again.

gluk will also need to make an app, rather than just say you are running. 
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on March 01, 2017, 07:03:28 am
Outside of what Apoc?

The circlejerk that is the NA competitive community
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on March 01, 2017, 07:09:50 am
Outside of what Apoc?

The circlejerk that is the NA competitive community

Isn't Gluk a mod for the NANWL?
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on March 01, 2017, 07:12:39 am
Outside of what Apoc?

The circlejerk that is the NA competitive community

Isn't Gluk a mod for the NANWL?

I wouldn't say Mods and such are necessarily part of the 'competitive community' so to speak.

They just don't seem to fit into the social circle that I see as the competitive community. SOME do, but not all of them.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on March 01, 2017, 07:25:43 am
Outside of what Apoc?

The circlejerk that is the NA competitive community

Isn't Gluk a mod for the NANWL?

I wouldn't say Mods and such are necessarily part of the 'competitive community' so to speak.

They just don't seem to fit into the social circle that I see as the competitive community. SOME do, but not all of them.

Gluk is also apart of the 4e as their second in command. Wouldn't that make him apart of the "competitive" community?
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on March 01, 2017, 08:04:55 am
Outside of what Apoc?

The circlejerk that is the NA competitive community

Isn't Gluk a mod for the NANWL?

I wouldn't say Mods and such are necessarily part of the 'competitive community' so to speak.

They just don't seem to fit into the social circle that I see as the competitive community. SOME do, but not all of them.

Gluk is also apart of the 4e as their second in command. Wouldn't that make him apart of the "competitive" community?

Alright, you can stop playing coy now. You know full well what I mean. Gluks position in the community is far different than someone like Lawbringer even though Law is also a second in command. It is not something that you can put into words easily, it is something that you just know through experience. You just know who has been around for years, who is always showing up in regimental or individual tournaments, who appears on the lists in the community, who really wants to be on them, that kinda stuff. You KNOW where people stand in the community.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on March 01, 2017, 08:30:33 am
Pretty much, what your trying to say is that, both Pickle and myself are apart of the Old Boys club, correct?

 From your diction, it appears that you are making Pickle and Myself out to be Hiliary whilst pushing Gluk as Bernie. We are the establishment, most likely, while he is the new face around. I don't know if that is an apt comparison but that is the impression that I am getting.

Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on March 01, 2017, 09:06:29 am
You could say that. Gluk just fills a different role in the community than you do, and I would like to see a fresh perspective. If we wanted change, and we need change, I would say he is most likely the guy to bring it. It's not that anything is wrong with you or Pickle, it is just that I feel like you more likely fit the same profile as the other CRs that came before, myself included.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: BmCx_Blacklabel on March 01, 2017, 09:23:27 am
I wish community rep was a thing when I was still into this game. :/
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on March 01, 2017, 09:25:53 am
You could say that. Gluk just fills a different role in the community than you do, and I would like to see a fresh perspective. If we wanted change, and we need change, I would say he is most likely the guy to bring it. It's not that anything is wrong with you or Pickle, it is just that I feel like you more likely fit the same profile as the other CRs that came before, myself included.
If you would humor me, why do you believe that Gluk is bringing a fresh angle to this?

 If I'm not mistaken, he's been around for quite a few years and has been participating in the competitive side of the community for a bit of that. Certainly pickle and myself are being placed in the Old Boys club but wouldn't you say that Gluk has a pretty similar background?
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Riddlez on March 01, 2017, 12:07:27 pm
Name: Riddlez
EU or NA: EU
Aware of responsibilities and penalties when breaking set rules: Yes
Motivation: I want to continue the work I have put into this community for the past term. If there are any matters within the community, I want to help resolve them, as well as being a connection between the community and the moderation staff/ developers. Currently I am working with orcaryo on a matter that we know is important to the community, will take substantial work to achieven but will, if succesfull, be a constructive aid to this forum, and BCoF, hopefully until the new game is released.  I cannot get into details yet, as we still have to contact the adminstration in detail about our plan, but if it works, of which I am confident it can, it'l be good. Furthermore I would like to suggest some improvements to the forums the coming term and try to engage the community more into the idea of the CRs.

Let's do this.
Vote ostrich
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Pickle on March 01, 2017, 02:26:57 pm
You could say that. Gluk just fills a different role in the community than you do, and I would like to see a fresh perspective. If we wanted change, and we need change, I would say he is most likely the guy to bring it. It's not that anything is wrong with you or Pickle, it is just that I feel like you more likely fit the same profile as the other CRs that came before, myself included.
If you would humor me, why do you believe that Gluk is bringing a fresh angle to this?

 If I'm not mistaken, he's been around for quite a few years and has been participating in the competitive side of the community for a bit of that. Certainly pickle and myself are being placed in the Old Boys club but wouldn't you say that Gluk has a pretty similar background?
I would also like to know what makes Gluk's perspective more fresh than mine or Dan's. I don't really understand your argument to why Gluk would be a better CR than any of the other candidates. Like Dan said, Gluk has a pretty similar background to us and I would say we're all still pretty similar.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on March 01, 2017, 02:57:04 pm
You can say what you will of Apoc's comments as they are not my own however I think I get where he's coming from. To put in better context, I have always been involved with the competitive side of NW but I never really considered myself "in" the competitive side. The reason being that I started playing this game in the 1er Grens (old ass reg, not very competitive), and our thing was casual LBs. I got more involved in the competitive side through lawbringer. It was more coincidence that I ended up joining one of the most competitive regiments in NW at the time and my reason for staying with through friendship and not because i saw myself as a competitive player.

If anyone has seen me melee, i am garbage. You also don't see me actively trying to participate in Groupfight tournaments. I end up playing in NANWL through the regiments I am in at the time.

I see myself more in the event hoster crowd with people like Amit, Beanbean and Jorge. The (imo) underrepresented folks who really just try to put on a good show for people. I don't care if the event is competitive or non-competitive. This is where my heart is in this game. This is why i take part in both the moderation of NANWL and TNWL as well as several casual LBs. To me, i see no distinction when it comes to putting on the event.

This is kinda where i think Apoc is coming from.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on March 01, 2017, 03:12:35 pm
Would be nice thunderstormer if you put the application format on your OP so i don't have to go back to previous threads to get it.

Name: GlukTheWalrus

EU or NA?: NA

Are you aware that the position of Community Representative is one of trust and confidence, and do you understand you can be punished for breaking that trust?: Yes

Why should you become CR?: My heart has always been with trying to make the community a better place. Often to a silly extent such as boycotting 15thHvB (which worked btw) or telling off Karth whenever he's being a prick in the community. As I've said and as many of you already know, I see myself as more of an event hoster. To me events are what keeps this community alive, it's why we play to begin with. As CR I will actively try to create newer and more imaginative events in the community as well as promoting the events of others. This ofc will not be my only concern, reviving NA1 is still something I support and want to push for. I also ran for CR several times in the past, last election I was 2nd place (lost by 4 votes). Couple other things: Moderator for NANWL, Ex-Mod of TNWL, Shoutbox Mod, Hosted or Admined a ton of events in the past. Friend of Duuring.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: BabyJesus on March 01, 2017, 03:33:01 pm
Hate to burst your bubble gluk but that boycott didn't work
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: ~Midnight~ on March 01, 2017, 03:47:05 pm
Hate to burst your bubble gluk but that boycott didn't work
I'm retarded nvm. But Good Luck Gluk!
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on March 01, 2017, 03:48:29 pm
Hate to burst your bubble gluk but that boycott didn't work
15thHvB lost players guaranteed and rebirth is often the most popular HvB server. So it actually worked as that was it's stated goal.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Theodin on March 01, 2017, 04:20:03 pm
I'm with Pickle here Apoc, I don't understand what you're saying. Are you saying Gluk isn't part of drama on fse? Cause that's false. Or are you saying that he's not fiercely competitive? Cause I beg to differ.. Also, if you're looking to elect someone like Amit, a neutral party, why elect someone representing Marceaux?
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on March 01, 2017, 05:08:04 pm
I wouldn't say that I'm "fiercely competitive." I also don't represent Marceaux, he just so happens to be in the same regiment as me.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Pickle on March 01, 2017, 05:11:06 pm
Yea I stay in primarily casual regiments too and I have participated in 2 or 3 tournaments (other than regimental) in my whole almost 5 years of playing.

Dan competes more and hosts more tournaments but I don't really consider him that competitive either.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on March 01, 2017, 06:23:25 pm
Yea I stay in primarily casual regiments too and I have participated in 2 or 3 tournaments (other than regimental) in my whole almost 5 years of playing.

Dan competes more and hosts more tournaments but I don't really consider him that competitive either.
I was just about to say this ;)
What Gluk described above about himself can be pretty much applied to all of 3 of us.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on March 01, 2017, 06:32:33 pm
I can't say much on the history of either of you so i dunno guys xD
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on March 01, 2017, 09:55:24 pm
Yea I stay in primarily casual regiments too and I have participated in 2 or 3 tournaments (other than regimental) in my whole almost 5 years of playing.

Dan competes more and hosts more tournaments but I don't really consider him that competitive either.
I was just about to say this ;)
What Gluk described above about himself can be pretty much applied to all of 3 of us.

Not to tear into pickle here, but I would say it would really only apply to you Dan. Pickle has not really hosted much iirc. He has been a ref...and that is about it as far as I know. I would argue that Pickle has not had alot of involvement in the community...at all. At least, for a CR.

I dunno Dan. You strike me as pretty similar in personality to Orcaryo. What would you do if you were CR?

I'm with Pickle here Apoc, I don't understand what you're saying. Are you saying Gluk isn't part of drama on fse? Cause that's false. Or are you saying that he's not fiercely competitive? Cause I beg to differ.. Also, if you're looking to elect someone like Amit, a neutral party, why elect someone representing Marceaux?

He wouldn't be representing Marceaux, he would be representing himself. Not everyone sees everything on a basis of what regiment they are in. Gluk fiercely competitive? I wouldn't say that. He has participated in drama directly affecting his regiment before, because Lawbringer tends to stir up the 58e into a shitposting frenzy whenever something happens. But, I wouldn't say Gluk is "fiercely competitive" compared to everyone else here.

I also don't really care about electing a "neutral party" anyhow. A neutral party is really only useful if there is alot of drama to sift through and we need someone to mediate it. There is NO drama right now, mostly because activity on the forums has shrunk so much. We need someone to fix that, I don't care if they are the most biased party there is as long as its fixed.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Theodin on March 02, 2017, 12:10:54 am
If I was really petty, I'd take your line "I don't care if they are the most biased party there is as long as its fixed" and say that you just admitted that Gluk is a very biased party.
But that's fallacious.
So I won't.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on March 02, 2017, 12:14:04 am
If I was really petty, I'd take your line "I don't care if they are the most biased party there is as long as its fixed" and say that you just admitted that Gluk is a very biased party.
But that's fallacious.
So I won't.

You would be right that it is fallacious, and I am not sure why you would bother making that post if you knew it was.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Theodin on March 02, 2017, 12:30:56 am
If I was really petty, I'd take your line "I don't care if they are the most biased party there is as long as its fixed" and say that you just admitted that Gluk is a very biased party.
But that's fallacious.
So I won't.

You would be right that it is fallacious, and I am not sure why you would bother making that post if you knew it was.
Because I still don't like that line. You're saying you'd knowingly elect someone who isn't neutral and has a clear bias over someone who, according to you, has less of an ability to get your unsolvable problem fixed, but can effectively remain neutral. I struggle to see why this is legitimate.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on March 02, 2017, 12:37:54 am
If I was really petty, I'd take your line "I don't care if they are the most biased party there is as long as its fixed" and say that you just admitted that Gluk is a very biased party.
But that's fallacious.
So I won't.

You would be right that it is fallacious, and I am not sure why you would bother making that post if you knew it was.
Because I still don't like that line. You're saying you'd knowingly elect someone who isn't neutral and has a clear bias over someone who, according to you, has less of an ability to get your unsolvable problem fixed, but can effectively remain neutral. I struggle to see why this is legitimate.

We just don't have a need for a Neutral Party right now. Being Neutral is a desireable trait of course, but it is just not something we need at all.

Would you rather we have someone breathe life into the community or someone to fairly mediate disputes right now?

My contention is I would rather the former. I do not see a need for the latter at this particular point in time....at all. Perhaps in earlier points in the communities history, but definitely not now.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Theodin on March 02, 2017, 12:43:46 am
How does Gluk propose to breath life into the community?
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on March 02, 2017, 12:45:46 am
So you agree?
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Pickle on March 02, 2017, 12:53:11 am
How does Gluk propose to breath life into the community?
I would also be curious to know how Gluk can bring forth more freshness and positive change than any of the other candidates.

Would you rather we have someone breathe life into the community or someone to fairly mediate disputes right now?
Wouldn't you want both?
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on March 02, 2017, 12:56:23 am
How does Gluk propose to breath life into the community?
I would also be curious to know how Gluk can bring forth more freshness and positive change than any of the other candidates.

Would you rather we have someone breathe life into the community or someone to fairly mediate disputes right now?
Wouldn't you want both?

Theodins question was whether I would want to choose someone who was biased over someone who had less of an ability to breathe life into the community but was unbiased, and I answered the former. I would rather it be both, but I don't place much value in being unbiased right now.

And that is a question for Gluk. I simply believe that out of all the candidates thus far, he least fits the status quo of CRs which well could have led us to our current situation.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Windflower on March 02, 2017, 01:02:17 am
Orcaryo for a 3rd term!
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on March 02, 2017, 01:17:12 am
Orcaryo for a 3rd term!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCeOf2q6_TA
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on March 02, 2017, 01:35:45 am
Name: Lurvy
EU or NA?:  NA
Are you aware that the position of Community Representative is one of trust and confidence, and do you understand you can be punished for breaking that trust? : Yes
Why should you become CR? : I want to help NA die a little faster, it is heading in the right direction, but needs a little help
+1
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on March 02, 2017, 01:38:06 am
Name: Lurvy
EU or NA?:  NA
Are you aware that the position of Community Representative is one of trust and confidence, and do you understand you can be punished for breaking that trust? : Yes
Why should you become CR? : I want to help NA die a little faster, it is heading in the right direction, but needs a little help

Thats our guy
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Windflower on March 02, 2017, 01:38:38 am
Lurvy for community rep!
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Theodin on March 02, 2017, 01:45:02 am
So you agree?
No
You know my thoughts on Gluk
I'm just humoring you on yours
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Orcaryo on March 02, 2017, 02:30:31 am
Name: Orcaryo
EU or NA?: NA
Are you aware that the position of Community Representative is one of trust and confidence, and do you understand you can be punished for breaking that trust? : Yes
Why should you become CR? : I've been apart of this community for more than 3 years, and have been playing this game for more than 4 years. I've been a server administrator for more than 3 years as well. I've been involved in multiple tournaments such as NANWL. I know how much responsibility this position holds, and I am ready to accept it. Also I have been the CR for the past 2 terms.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on March 02, 2017, 03:50:56 am
How does Gluk propose to breath life into the community?
I would also be curious to know how Gluk can bring forth more freshness and positive change than any of the other candidates.
I don't really like the fact that I'm being put on the spot for something I did not say but hopefully I can bring freshness into the community. I do not intend to just sit around twiddling my thumbs, but at this point, it's different to say that one person can bring freshness to the community. That is just the honest truth. To continue off of that though, i do think that the CR can prolong the inevitable by their actions. If the CR can work with the Devs, Regs, and Event Hosts, the CR can certainly make the community more alive. Basically, I hope to talk to regiments to get them to sign up to more events, i wish to help newer regiments form and stay alive as well as providing them with the best events possible and pointing them away from less reputable events. I hope to prevent regiments on the verge of dying from dying. There are a number of ways that I can attempt to accomplish these goals (if you ask, i can explain in further detail but i don't really want this post to be a block of text), but all of them can in a sense bring some sort of freshness to the community. As i said though, it would only be prolonging the inevitable.

I don't want to be too harsh on Orcaryo but I honestly don't think that you should run again. The community is getting to the point where we can't have people just sitting and doing nothing or very little and I'm sorry Orc but you've done very little. I backed you once you won the last two elections, i will not be doing this a third time.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Theodin on March 02, 2017, 04:28:38 am
Well clearly you won't, as you're running and (basically) have a campaign going. But i'd like to add, Orcaryo is being treated like he did nothing as CR. Seemed to me like he did a great job, not being overly intrusive, solving problems where he's needed, staying in the background, and working for the community, not just with it.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on March 02, 2017, 04:31:57 am
Well clearly you won't, as you're running and (basically) have a campaign going. But i'd like to add, Orcaryo is being treated like he did nothing as CR. Seemed to me like he did a great job, not being overly intrusive, solving problems where he's needed, staying in the background, and working for the community, not just with it.

What are his accomplishments?
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Theodin on March 02, 2017, 04:40:23 am
Well clearly you won't, as you're running and (basically) have a campaign going. But i'd like to add, Orcaryo is being treated like he did nothing as CR. Seemed to me like he did a great job, not being overly intrusive, solving problems where he's needed, staying in the background, and working for the community, not just with it.

What are his accomplishments?
He got Bill banned, he helped solve the NANWL crisis (as much as he could), he created the form list, which in my eyes quieted a lot of the epeen shouting, i'm sure he's helped handle the 63e in some capacity (I was banned for a while, and he actually tried to help me out with that), and he's doing that thing with Riddlez. Plus a bunch of subboards and some minor admin stuff. I'm sure there's more if you ask him
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on March 02, 2017, 06:06:13 am
Well clearly you won't, as you're running and (basically) have a campaign going. But i'd like to add, Orcaryo is being treated like he did nothing as CR. Seemed to me like he did a great job, not being overly intrusive, solving problems where he's needed, staying in the background, and working for the community, not just with it.

What are his accomplishments?
He got Bill banned, he helped solve the NANWL crisis (as much as he could), he created the form list, which in my eyes quieted a lot of the epeen shouting, i'm sure he's helped handle the 63e in some capacity (I was banned for a while, and he actually tried to help me out with that), and he's doing that thing with Riddlez. Plus a bunch of subboards and some minor admin stuff. I'm sure there's more if you ask him

To be honest, I think I will try and steal credit for getting Bill banned. I started that when I was CR, I got him banned (not permanently, cause Duuring didnt know Bill well enough), and then pushed Orcaryo to ban him. So I will be so bold to say that I had more to do with getting Bill banned than Orcaryo.

The form list that was abandoned? I started the whole "form" thing. He started another list kinda going off of it getting certain people to vote. It was a thing for like a month, and that thread only has 34 pages total and stopped being updated less than a month after it started, which means it wasn't really a huge deal in bringing back forum activity.

I would say his crowning achievement was the weekly tournaments, which you didn't really bring up. Good on him for that, but we need more than just that.

All of this was for the most part achieved in his first time with very little happening since.

I dunno. I like Orcaryo as a person, and he is a cool guy, but I think he has roughly average accomplishments as far as CRs go and he has had over twice the time to accomplish things as any other CR. I think it is time to hand it to somebody else, personally.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Windflower on March 02, 2017, 06:35:23 am
May Orcaryo reign as community rep till' the ends of time
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on March 02, 2017, 06:42:10 am
In regards to the NANWL crisis that you brought up, i would just like to say that orcaryo told Amit that he had his support on it and i think he may have messaged duuring once. Myself on the other hand supported amit since day one and i constantly messaged duuring on both the forums and steam in order to push him to make the decision to give it to Amit. I think me, beanbean, and obviously amit have significantly more claim to solving that whole issue than anyone else does. I was actively involved in the whole thing and trying to keep in contact with karth as it was happening so I would say that I know quite a bit about this issue and who were the key players in that.

Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: PapaBean on March 02, 2017, 06:56:33 am
Everybody knows the tale of how Karth tried to steal NANWL.  We know that Amit and Myself stood above that shit and made sure it did not fall into the hands of a single regiment.  However, one thing that many of you may not know is that a third person was involved in making sure that this horrific idea never saw the light of day.  That hero, my friends, is GlukTheWalrus.  As softspoken and reserved as he may seem this knight of the round table has as clear understanding of what is going on in NW and knows how to fix it both on and off the forums.  I usually stay away from this politics hoopla but I wanted to give my support to Gluk since he is, in many ways, a silent representative of what this community should be like. 

That is all....thank you...

Papabean
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Theodin on March 02, 2017, 07:02:49 am
I mean, I supported Amit from day one, gave him a lot of advice/feedback, was open to talk to Duuring about it, and actively campaigned within and outside my regiment for him, but none of that matters, cause while all this was going on the CR already expressed the will of the community to have Amit.
Now, it's not fair to downplay his input, as he was on vacation. So I'm not sure what more you expected him to do..
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: PapaBean on March 02, 2017, 07:16:39 am
I mean, I supported Amit from day one, gave him a lot of advice/feedback, was open to talk to Duuring about it, and actively campaigned within and outside my regiment for him, but none of that matters, cause while all this was going on the CR already expressed the will of the community to have Amit.
Now, it's not fair to downplay his input, as he was on vacation. So I'm not sure what more you expected him to do..

I get what you are saying Theo but the fact that Gluk had conversations with Duuring about the issue shows that he took a more vested intrest in the issue.  I understand that he was on vacation but in all honestly when the issues arose Gluk was one of the knights riding into combat and winning the battle for the NW community.  So yeah his input is nice and all but actions speak louder than words. 
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Bravescot on March 02, 2017, 06:02:33 pm
Now I've 100% been living under a rock......no chance someone could PM me the tale of Karth's attempted take over could they?
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: William on March 02, 2017, 06:29:08 pm
You all are fighting over a title that has no power and never will. It's a joke that tries to keep a dead community engaged but news flash, it's fucking dead m8's. 

If we gave them the power to ban and repress people, than you'd have my full attention. It might actually make this worth something
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: tired on March 02, 2017, 07:51:56 pm
Whenever this is done, I would like to talk to the newly elected CR. I am probably going to push the USMC to open up recruiting on BBG Bot Survival probably in April to keep the community alive a bit longer til the next game comes out. So add me on steam whoever it is. BBG tired
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Risk_ on March 03, 2017, 12:40:42 am
You all are fighting over a title that has no power and never will. It's a joke that tries to keep a dead community engaged but news flash, it's fucking dead m8's. 

If we gave them the power to ban and repress people, than you'd have my full attention. It might actually make this worth something

then why do u post? no offense but some people actually want to help the community and maybe try to do something
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Thunderstormer on March 03, 2017, 08:15:42 am
The time to apply will end at 12 am on the 4th central US time. so a little under 23 hours from now. 
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on March 03, 2017, 01:48:24 pm
I wish to pull out of this race to support pickle.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on March 03, 2017, 01:58:36 pm
You seem to have missed my application Thunder.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Thunderstormer on March 03, 2017, 02:57:01 pm
I wish to pull out of this race to support pickle.

Removed from the list.

You seem to have missed my application Thunder.
nope.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on March 03, 2017, 11:08:49 pm
I wish to pull out of this race to support pickle.

Removed from the list.

You seem to have missed my application Thunder.
nope.

Lurvy or we riot
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on March 03, 2017, 11:11:54 pm
I wish to pull out of this race to support pickle.

Removed from the list.

You seem to have missed my application Thunder.
nope.

Lurvy or we riot

Lurvy is NW
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: MackCW on March 04, 2017, 01:42:49 am
CR term length should be 6 months now tbh... pool is running low on people that should be considered as CR.

Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on March 04, 2017, 01:43:31 am
CR term length should be 6 months now tbh... pool is running low on people that should be considered as CR.
bless
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: BabyJesus on March 04, 2017, 02:34:21 am
CR term length should be 6 months now tbh... pool is running low on people that should be considered as CR.
but do people really want the chance of 6 months with a pickle CR?
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on March 04, 2017, 02:39:56 am
CR term length should be 6 months now tbh... pool is running low on people that should be considered as CR.
but do people really want the chance of 6 months with a pickle CR?
yes
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Pickle on March 04, 2017, 02:48:08 am
CR term length should be 6 months now tbh... pool is running low on people that should be considered as CR.
but do people really want the chance of 6 months with a pickle CR?
Pickles last for like 2 years so why not
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Windflower on March 04, 2017, 03:29:33 am
CR term length should be 6 months now tbh... pool is running low on people that should be considered as CR.
but do people really want the chance of 6 months with a pickle CR?
Pickles last for like 2 years so why not
But I've known you for like 4 years..
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Orcaryo on March 04, 2017, 04:22:46 am
CR term length should be 6 months now tbh... pool is running low on people that should be considered as CR.
but do people really want the chance of 6 months with a pickle CR?
Pickles last for like 2 years so why not
But I've known you for like 4 years..
That means he's a rotten pickle!!
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Earth Bby on March 04, 2017, 04:52:29 am
Is there anyone that actually uses the forums often enough to do this? A "Community" Rep someone in the community (Playing NW)
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: BabyJesus on March 04, 2017, 05:04:14 am
Is there anyone that actually uses the forums often enough to do this? A "Community" Rep someone in the community (Playing NW)
dan is your man
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Pickle on March 04, 2017, 05:12:21 am
CR term length should be 6 months now tbh... pool is running low on people that should be considered as CR.
but do people really want the chance of 6 months with a pickle CR?
Pickles last for like 2 years so why not
But I've known you for like 4 years..
You are delusional.

Is there anyone that actually uses the forums often enough to do this? A "Community" Rep someone in the community (Playing NW)
I am on the forums quite often I just don't spam posts as much as most people.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on March 04, 2017, 05:47:39 am
Is there anyone that actually uses the forums often enough to do this? A "Community" Rep someone in the community (Playing NW)
dan is your man
yeah me too
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Windflower on March 04, 2017, 05:52:59 am
Spoiler
CR term length should be 6 months now tbh... pool is running low on people that should be considered as CR.
but do people really want the chance of 6 months with a pickle CR?
Pickles last for like 2 years so why not
But I've known you for like 4 years..
You are delusional.
[close]
Oh okay, I see how it is. :'(
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Thunderstormer on March 04, 2017, 09:16:29 am
As no one else ran for CR on the EU side, riddlez wins.

Na election is up.

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=35088.0
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on March 04, 2017, 10:53:17 am
No Lurvy?

I am rioting
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Riddlez on March 04, 2017, 05:59:24 pm
Had expected at least ONE candidate more for EU. But oh well.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Amit_ on March 04, 2017, 06:11:05 pm
As no one else ran for CR on the EU side, riddlez wins.

Na election is up.

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=35088.0

EU has finally collapsed! Rejoice, NA!
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on March 04, 2017, 06:11:58 pm
Can I be the candidate for EU?
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Shadow on March 04, 2017, 06:26:49 pm
Can I be the candidate for EU?

Unfortunately, no - personnel on EU side can only be nominated for EU Community Rep, and vice versa for NA.

However, this was the previous stance. I don't think it would change to say, based on the individual's community they are a part of (some NA only are in EU and vice versa), they can then run for that position anytime soon.  I do wonder what some criteria would be, and how one could enforce/honor that...
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Amit_ on March 04, 2017, 07:53:54 pm
An interesting development that would be for sure. Something I'd like to point out is that a lot of people in this thread are placing an inordinate amount of emphasis on community representatives to solve the activity and toxicity crisis of the NW community. Measuring the worth of a community representative directly by how many events they managed to run for a length of time and how many people they managed to get involved in certain aspects of NW is not at all what representation is about. There is too much expectation placed on these people to get things done that they don't have the means to do on their own.

A community representative should entail the following:

- Present a general overview of how the community thinks and feels about certain issues
- Provide information about relevant issues affecting regiments and the community as a whole
- Attempt to mediate low-level community issues, escalating them to a higher level if it's beyond their power (bans, etc.)

They aren't glorified event admins designed to reinvigorate the community. If that's what people want, then perhaps the position should be renamed to Community Promoter. The backing of an event-holding force would be required to keep a 24/7 public server running the way the BBG and 63e servers do.



With regard to the NANWL controversy, I was largely left in the dark about how that decision was made. Duuring has not filled me in. I can't speak to anyone else's involvement through forums,etc., but I can provide a list of people who I personally received support from and everyone one of them agreed to make a statement either publicly or privately, if required, to show their support. However, this list never made it to Duuring because he made his decision before I had the chance to send it to him:

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Some names on this list are redacted because their wish was to not be named publicly. They are my personal friends and I wouldn't disrespect their wishes.

NameRole
AP0C
AsianP
BabyJesus
Bondage
Cheeseypants
Diversey 
George V
Glenn
GlukTheWalrus
Irish
Jakester
Knight of St. John
Label 
[Redacted]
Littlefield
Midnight
ModernAssassin
Nappy Surena
Nathan
NickCole
Nico
Offizer
Orcaryo
PapaBean
PriestPooba
Portals
Red Viper
RussianFury
Ser_Wall
[Redacted]
Steven
[Redacted]
Superbad
Theodin
Waste
Windflower
S6 Moderator
S6 Referee & Reg Leader
S6 Player
S6 Referee
S5 Head Admin
S6 Reg Leader
S6 Reg Leader
S6 Referee
Community Member
S6 Reg Leader
S6 Player & 63e NCO
S6 Reg Leader
S6 Moderator
S6 Referee & 63e NCO
S6 Reg Leader
S6 Reg Leader
S6 Reg Leader
S6 Referee & Reg Leader
S6 Ex-Admin & 63e NCO
S6 Former Ref
S6 Reg Leader
S6 Reg Leader (63e)
2-term Community Rep.
S6 Head Admin
S6 Reg Leader
S6 Referee
S6 Referee
S6 Reg Leader
S6 Referee
S6 Reg Leader
S6 Player & 63e NCO
S6 Referee & 63e Member
S6 Referee
S6 Former Referee
Community Member
S5 & S6 Moderator
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Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Theodin on March 04, 2017, 09:25:30 pm
When you're the only former referee on that list
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Orcaryo on March 04, 2017, 09:56:22 pm
When you're the only former referee on that list
*ahem*
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Windflower on March 05, 2017, 12:25:52 am
I didn't realllllly give "support", all I did was tell the boring truth.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Amit_ on March 05, 2017, 06:12:22 am
When you're the only former referee on that list

Might want to pull out the magnifying glass. NickCole is also marked as such. Orcaryo says he was a referee as well, but Bean/Nathan must have removed him from the list before I became more involved with running Season 6 (End of Feb. 2016).

I didn't realllllly give "support", all I did was tell the boring truth.

Telling the truth and supporting me were one and the same. Some claims were made that were easily disproved provided that people told the truth. Perhaps I went overkill, but it was about sending a message that lies can't trump the truth. The support was for my statements, not my claim to running NANWL.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Windflower on March 05, 2017, 06:16:12 am
I was also a former referee in the previous seasons and also a former veteran referee, just not marked as that
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Amit_ on March 05, 2017, 09:41:15 am
I kept it relevant to Season 6 only. If they have S5 in their name, it was because they were involved in it as proof that Karth disappeared during that time. It wasn't about glorifying people, it was about describing their significance to Season 6.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Windflower on March 05, 2017, 04:43:26 pm
True
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Theodin on March 05, 2017, 05:06:42 pm
Looks like i'm blind
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Orcaryo on March 05, 2017, 08:49:59 pm
I still think Amit is the worst NANWL organizer to ever live

Spoiler
jkjk
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Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on March 07, 2017, 10:37:06 am
My question is where does orcaryo find these people to vote for him. I dont know a single person that said that they voted for him.

If you are an orcaryo supporter, please make yourself known since we seem to have a 'silent' minority of people voting for him.

Also nice job to pickle, it was a good run.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on March 07, 2017, 12:04:46 pm
My question is where does orcaryo find these people to vote for him. I dont know a single person that said that they voted for him.

If you are an orcaryo supporter, please make yourself known since we seem to have a 'silent' minority of people voting for him.

Also nice job to pickle, it was a good run.

He probs just did his campaign through Steam.

Though I would prefer people be vocal of their support for their candidates on FSE. Afterall, this is a CR for the FSE community.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Thunderstormer on March 07, 2017, 01:15:22 pm
run off is here

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=35139.0
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Theodin on March 07, 2017, 04:23:37 pm
I voted Orcaryo
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Bravescot on March 07, 2017, 04:25:37 pm
I voted Orcaryo
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Windflower on March 07, 2017, 04:59:01 pm
I voted Orcaryo
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Karth on March 07, 2017, 05:06:07 pm
I voted for Orcaryo  8)
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: GeneralSquirts on March 07, 2017, 06:07:59 pm
I voted for Orcaryo  8)
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: William on March 07, 2017, 06:22:54 pm
I voted Orcaryo
I'd rather be dead then see FSE go red.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Theodin on March 07, 2017, 06:56:57 pm
I voted Orcaryo
I'd rather be dead then see FSE go red.
Heh
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on March 07, 2017, 08:16:12 pm
I have no problems with the 63e, a lot of them are cool dude but we have all heard the fucking horror stories of 'X' nco talked to 'X' person so they were kicked out of the reg. Not to mention how karth completely ignored the desire of the community for NANWL to go to Amit and made his own thread on taleworlds for it.

I can understand why people are voting for Orcaryo and things are starting to make a bit of sense (seeing as all of these folks tend to dislike me) but my question Orc and i mean this seriously, do you want the support of Karth and to an extension squirts who follows him?

Edit: removed the first part as it made the rest of the post seem antagonistic towards Orc. My apologies.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: BabyJesus on March 07, 2017, 08:22:02 pm
Orcaryo, do you really want karth of all people supporting you? Is that what you think the community wants?

 I have no problems with the 63e, a lot of them are cool dude but we have all heard the fucking horror stories of 'X' nco talked to 'X' person so they were kicked out of the reg. Not to mention how he completely ignored the desire of the community for NANWL to go to Amit and made his own thread on taleworlds for it.

I can understand why people are voting for Orcaryo and things are starting to make a bit of sense (seeing as all of these folks tend to dislike me) but my question Orc and i mean this seriously, do you want the support of Karth and to an extension squirts who follows him?
after this pot I wish I voted for Orcaryo instead :(
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Bravescot on March 07, 2017, 08:23:02 pm
Ummmm........can we agree that Karth's "vote" and "support" mean the square root of fuck all. Odds are that he's doing it to deliberately remove credibility for Orcaryo.

after this pot I wish I voted for Orcaryo instead :(
It's okay BabyJ. Your theoretical vote will count in all our hearts.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Orcaryo on March 07, 2017, 08:24:50 pm
Orcaryo, do you really want karth of all people supporting you? Is that what you think the community wants?

 I have no problems with the 63e, a lot of them are cool dude but we have all heard the fucking horror stories of 'X' nco talked to 'X' person so they were kicked out of the reg. Not to mention how he completely ignored the desire of the community for NANWL to go to Amit and made his own thread on taleworlds for it.

I can understand why people are voting for Orcaryo and things are starting to make a bit of sense (seeing as all of these folks tend to dislike me) but my question Orc and i mean this seriously, do you want the support of Karth and to an extension squirts who follows him?
I mean, I've never had a problem with either of them personally, the only time I've ever opposed Karth was when the whole NANWL thing came up, and that was indirect, I never called him out on anything and vice versa. Squirts is the same thing, except I've never had any kind of personal problems with him.

I can guess that Squirts voted for me because of him liking my duel tournies, and Karth I assumed voted for me because we are both NA GFing admins and the fact that I never publicly denounced him, unlike many people on these forums.

I don't see a reason to denounce him, its a game, and people should stop treating this like it's life. Besides, I would compare this to the KKK endorsing Trump(not calling Karth or the 63e the KKK), but just a group that a good portion of people tend to dislike voting for a candidate.

Hopefully this answered your question, feel free to ask me anything else.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on March 07, 2017, 08:37:05 pm
Just to clarify, i didnt mean to write that as an attack on orcaryo so please dont take it that way. I just wanted to know if orc was okay with Karth's support (voting is a form of support).

It is well known my position on karth so no one should really be surprised by my comment.

Also babyjesus, im genuinely curious what part of that you disagree with. I'm not trying to make Orc look like a baddie just because karth voted for him, i just wanted to know if Orc was fine with him voting for him.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Windflower on March 07, 2017, 08:41:44 pm
Orcaryo, do you really want karth of all people supporting you? Is that what you think the community wants?

 I have no problems with the 63e, a lot of them are cool dude but we have all heard the fucking horror stories of 'X' nco talked to 'X' person so they were kicked out of the reg. Not to mention how he completely ignored the desire of the community for NANWL to go to Amit and made his own thread on taleworlds for it.

I can understand why people are voting for Orcaryo and things are starting to make a bit of sense (seeing as all of these folks tend to dislike me) but my question Orc and i mean this seriously, do you want the support of Karth and to an extension squirts who follows him?
I mean, I've never had a problem with either of them personally, the only time I've ever opposed Karth was when the whole NANWL thing came up, and that was indirect, I never called him out on anything and vice versa. Squirts is the same thing, except I've never had any kind of personal problems with him.

I can guess that Squirts voted for me because of him liking my duel tournies, and Karth I assumed voted for me because we are both NA GFing admins and the fact that I never publicly denounced him, unlike many people on these forums.

I don't see a reason to denounce him, its a game, and people should stop treating this like it's life. Besides, I would compare this to the KKK endorsing Trump(not calling Karth or the 63e the KKK), but just a group that a good portion of people tend to dislike voting for a candidate.

Hopefully this answered your question, feel free to ask me anything else.
Deus Vult.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Theodin on March 07, 2017, 09:00:40 pm
I think it's a good thing that Karth and Squirts support Orcaryo- seeing as I'm not a fan of them both, and vice versa, having a mutual neutral friend like Orcaryo as community rep seems like a healthy thing.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: GeneralSquirts on March 07, 2017, 09:25:31 pm
I voted orcaryo cause he's down to earth, no bs, and yes while his tournaments are quite enjoyable, it's not a reason I submitted my vote. Orcaryo just does his job at being there when he's approached. Which is a good quality of someone who dedicates time to the forum community. Plus, just because certain individuals vote for a rep, doesn't mean he's just like his constituents. You just practically tried to call Orcaryo a 63e Supporter in hopes to smear the guy cause a few 63e members voted for him lol. If I voted for you then I guess no one should vote for you based on that logic.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Risk_ on March 07, 2017, 09:33:27 pm
I voted orcaryo cause he's down to earth, no bs. Orcaryo just does his job at being there when he's approached. Which is a good quality of someone who dedicates time to the forum community.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on March 07, 2017, 11:56:06 pm
I voted orcaryo cause he's down to earth, no bs, and yes while his tournaments are quite enjoyable, it's not a reason I submitted my vote. Orcaryo just does his job at being there when he's approached. Which is a good quality of someone who dedicates time to the forum community. Plus, just because certain individuals vote for a rep, doesn't mean he's just like his constituents. You just practically tried to call Orcaryo a 63e Supporter in hopes to smear the guy cause a few 63e members voted for him lol. If I voted for you then I guess no one should vote for you based on that logic.
That's not at all what i was saying and i literally just made a post correcting my position so people don't think that that is what i'm insinuating.

Just to clarify, i didnt mean to write that as an attack on orcaryo so please dont take it that way. I just wanted to know if orc was okay with Karth's support (voting is a form of support)...

I'm not trying to make Orc look like a baddie just because karth voted for him, i just wanted to know if Orc was fine with him voting for him.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussio
Post by: GeneralSquirts on March 08, 2017, 12:01:36 am
How else does "Orcaryo, do you really want karth of all people supporting you? Is that what you think the community wants?" come off as? The last bit literally is "hey look, he's doing something the community doesn't want and has 63e people supporting him, we dont want this guys"

I'm gonna stand up for orcaryo cause he's not that low to go to a point that literally does not effect the election at all. You are virtually bringing up one voter out of larger pool just because you have personal bias against them  Again, why I voted for Orcaryo, he's not like you and brings up personal bias here as a CR candidate, he remains neutral and most importantly is there when possible. So ties back to him being pretty down to earth and overall a good candidate in comparison.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussio
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on March 08, 2017, 01:52:41 am
How else does "Orcaryo, do you really want karth of all people supporting you? Is that what you think the community wants?" come off as? The last bit literally is "hey look, he's doing something the community doesn't want and has 63e people supporting him, we dont want this guys"

I'm gonna stand up for orcaryo cause he's not that low to go to a point that literally does not effect the election at all. You are virtually bringing up one voter out of larger pool just because you have personal bias against them  Again, why I voted for Orcaryo, he's not like you and brings up personal bias here as a CR candidate, he remains neutral and most importantly is there when possible. So ties back to him being pretty down to earth and overall a good candidate in comparison.
If you look squirts, i said something about that as well...

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Edit: removed the first part as it made the rest of the post seem antagonistic towards Orc. My apologies.
I did this before you made this post. I also made the original post literally 5 minutes after i woke up and i got pissed when i saw Karth making a post here. Yes i have personal bias against Karth, this is well known. However karth is not a typical player on NW, he is not a typical reg leader or event host. We all know Karth's position in this community is unique. You just don't see it the way I do because you're a high ranking member of the 63e and was actually intended on being Karth's mod for Karth's NANWL on taleworlds.

That single act solidified that Karth does not give a flying fuck about this community. Disagree with me if you want but that's how I see it. This is why i am deeply concerned with Karth voting here, this is why I question whether Orcaryo wants his vote. When i wrote the original post, the way in which I wrote it made it seem as though I was trying to paint Orcaryo as being supportive of Karth's actions when obviously I know that that isn't true. This is why i corrected my post, this is why i made another post clarifying that.

Squirts, do you understand why people are upset with Karth over NANWL?
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: GeneralSquirts on March 08, 2017, 01:58:52 am
Of course, sorry if I got worked up. Took it as a attempt to rip orcaryom As for the NANWL comments, agree with you on the fundamentals of it.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: SaintG on March 08, 2017, 05:38:46 am
hey gluk  :)
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Amit_ on March 08, 2017, 07:34:48 am
Perhaps we should return to the function of the community representative and not focus so much on who votes for who. Ideally, everyone will vote for the person they feel will be able to fulfill the role most appropriately. There are some in the community, such as Karth, that many people do not hold in high regard, but those people are still members and will vote accordingly.

Going back to the points I made a few days ago (which everyone seemed to pass over for my comments on NANWL), is the term community representative really the correct term to use? Is that what people really want? Or do they want a community coordinator? A coordinator being someone who organizes public events and activities for the community as well as acting as an intermediary between regiments and forum staff. Because from what I've observed since the start of the position being created is that there is a lot of emphasis on CR's to do a lot more than the title suggests and do it without consistent support. As an example, the NA1 Revival was an admirable effort by numerous people, but it wasn't sustainable.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on March 08, 2017, 07:59:20 am
Think I need to have a chat with the newly elected CR.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Thunderstormer on March 08, 2017, 08:24:43 am
Think I need to have a chat with the newly elected CR.
Well, riddlez is still CR, unless you are going to wait another day or so for the NA election to wrap up.
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: BabyJesus on March 08, 2017, 08:26:22 am
Think I need to have a chat with the newly elected CR.
Well, riddlez is still CR, unless you are going to wait another day or so for the NA election to wrap up.
i think I know what apoc wants to talk about and it is kinda a NA problem so idk if riddlez can/will do much
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: Thunderstormer on March 08, 2017, 08:35:45 am
Think I need to have a chat with the newly elected CR.
Well, riddlez is still CR, unless you are going to wait another day or so for the NA election to wrap up.
i think I know what apoc wants to talk about and it is kinda a NA problem so idk if riddlez can/will do much
fair enough

i pointed it out, because depending on the topic, he could help.  more so if it is about the forums, and not about in game stuff. 
Title: Re: Seventh Election (March-April term) - Candidates and discussion
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on March 08, 2017, 11:46:17 am
It was my intentions to wait for the result of the NA election. I just know you lock these threads so I wanted to throw that out there so whoever wins knew to contact me.