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Off Topic / Re: Ukraine
« on: February 16, 2015, 08:59:28 pm »
https://consortiumnews.com/2015/02/11/nyt-whites-out-ukraines-brown-shirts/
Through false lying article on leftist pro-Russian site, nothing good to read :)
Strange how you manage to find such every notice about ukrainian, and yet miss such about russian neo-nazies and radical nationalists from other side :)

Azov became a regiment, btw.
However to me it looks like Russia are the defensive ones here.
Just can't wait when Russia starts to "defend itself" in your country :)
to what NATO/EU/US has done in Ukraine
What they has done?Is this NATO/EU/US send here grads, tanks or soldiers?Or maybe Girkin, Boroday, all those so-called cossacks atamans, caucasians are from EU? Or it is CIA started to create training DPR camps back in 2009?Open your leftist eyes already for god sake

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Off Topic / Re: Ukraine
« on: February 15, 2015, 09:20:16 pm »
If cease-fire fails martial law will be declared:
http://www.kyivpost.com/content/kyiv-post-plus/poroshenko-will-impose-martial-law-if-cease-fire-fails-380663.html
It isn't even started and already failed but PoP will not declared martial law anyway

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Off Topic / Re: Ukraine
« on: February 12, 2015, 07:02:25 pm »
As you can see in this image the rebels have to retreat to the frontline from september 19th while the Ukrainians are allowed to stay behind the front how it is today.
They have to just  take away heavy artillery from that line.

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Off Topic / Re: Ukraine
« on: February 12, 2015, 06:59:02 pm »
Why did you guys sign it then?
Good question. Probably because of pressure of EU, that in one hand - neither can, want or will go in, not to mention war, but even in conflict with Russia, in other - can't leave Ukraine without any help, because there is a possibility to 'lose' it. So it is the best decision for them.
Or PP & co. has some tricky plan how to deal with Russia and it is a part of it, in which i doubt.
There was no representative of the so-called insurgents.
Actually there was, Zakharchenko(DPR) and Plotnitskiy(LPR) was there by themselves. Actually, they and representatives of Ukraine, Russia and OSCE signed agreement

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Off Topic / Re: Ukraine
« on: February 12, 2015, 06:21:43 pm »
Looks like a new truce got signed-
I hope this last longer than the last one
It isn't the truce, but our capitulation.
And no, it won't be followed, i'm almost sure in that.

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Off Topic / Re: Ukraine
« on: February 10, 2015, 05:47:15 pm »
Today's shelling of Kramatorsk, at least 7 civilians dead according to official information

remains of shells - https://www.facebook.com/bigredaktor/posts/861373207254913
Let's hope there will be peace soon. I just wish that Russia and the US would work together rather than against each other (on peace initiatives and more).
There won't be for sure, and second is not possible.

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Off Topic / Re: Ukraine
« on: February 08, 2015, 08:15:51 pm »
The separatists claim to have killed 31 000 Ukrainian Soldiers while Ukraine claims to have "only" lost 1 500 soldiers.
If they would have killed 31k Ukrainian Soldiers, PP would not have been a president, but would sit somewhere in Rostov along with Yanu in very best case.
There is for sure more then 1500 KIA, also like 1500 MIA, but not so much as they declared.

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Off Topic / Re: Ukraine
« on: February 08, 2015, 08:02:46 pm »
Because that's totally out of the jurisdiction of the International Court of Justice.
And what about Constitutional Court of Ukraine?He could applied there and prove that he still is legitimate if he is so right.
If Yanu thought that he couldn't remain President, he would have resigned. But he didn't.
Yes, instead of made it as it should've been done, he just leave all, leave his duties which assigned to him by the Constitution, and runaway.
That's stupid. Sometimes running away can be the duty of a president. The Polish government ran away too when the country was invaded by Nazi Germany.
It can't be compared, different things
Anyway, there was nothing in the constitution which said that the Parliament could remove the President if, according to their own foolish opinion, the President wasnt "performing his duties" anymore. Article 111 of the constitution allowed to impeach the president in case of "state treason or other crime." Running away is certainly not a state treason. However, ploting to overthrow the legitimate president is a state treason.
And again - Parliament does not remove Yanu, they just made resolution which confirmed, that President self-removed and cannot perform his duties, and made further decision because of it.
To make it more clear.
1. Yanu runaways and withdrewed from his duties of President of Ukraine by himself in the way that is not specified in the Constitution(in other hand, there also not specified that if he runaways, he still remains President)- take is as fact1.
2. Parliament gather together and check - President is somewhere no one knows for sure where, does not do what he should do -  fact1 confirmed, so they made an appropriate decision in a Resolution
3. fact1 about Yanu self-removing wasn't appealed by him or anyone other in Constitutional Court of Ukraine or any other, and wasn't officially declared as one that does not held, he also didn't tries to return to perform of his duties.
4. So if it is held, then Resolution with decision to ensure him self-removed do not have anything against the law.

Indeed he is politically dead(maybe real as well), PP is recognized even by Russia, i see no point to bother on this topic again and again.

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Off Topic / Re: Ukraine
« on: February 08, 2015, 05:14:41 pm »
Lol, in discussions with MaxLam it is always returning to some "unconstitutionality" of current authority in Ukraine.
so let's return to this
1. Yanu never withdrew. He even claimed that he was still President.
2. According to the Constitution, only a majority of 3/4 could have removed Yanu. There was no such majority. And moreover the procedure wasn't followed.
3. Me not understand.
4. Which court?
1. He said a lot of stupid things, because he is a pretty dumb itself, so what? There are facts and actions(or lack of them), that shows the real situation that happen. Come on, he started to prepare for leaving since 19.02 when valuable things and the part of important documents were taken away from his palace along with his woman, which means that he did not hope or plan to return. He made an videoappeal that he is legally President and he remains in Ukraine, but gone right after that. Then did not stay in loyal to him Donbass or Crimea, where all was moreover quietly, and do not even try to do something from there - he fled from there to Russia, from where do not even bother to made an attempts to return or at least perform his duties. What is it, if not a runaway?
2. Thing is, that that resolution does not removed Yanu - at that moment it was already given that he already disappeared and do not performs his duties as a President at that moment - self-withdrewed in a unconstitutional way, because our constitution isn't perfect, there is not provided,  that president can just runaway from his duties. So by that resolution Rada does not removed anything, but, based on the circumstances of extreme urgency, decided to "ensured that the President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych in an unconstitutional manner withdrew from the exercise of constitutional powers and is one that does not fulfill its obligations." - so confirmed the fact that held, and non-constitutional majority is enough for resolution.
And because this is happen - appoints new elections etc.
3. I meant, that in parliament were people who understand law, both internal and international. You can be sure that they prepare this as much according to law as it can be, to avoid accusation in unconstitutionality like yours.
4. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_Court_of_Ukraine for example, or some international, like International Court of Justice
Thing is that he does not even tried.

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Other Games / Re: Caribbean!
« on: February 01, 2015, 10:53:43 pm »
Does anyone still interested in game?
New beta-patch have been issued recently, when it will be released on prod, game will moves to beta stage

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Off Topic / Re: Ukraine
« on: January 25, 2015, 12:09:41 pm »
But the government is not legal nor legitimate. Not anymore than Separatist leaders.
It is.
Current government and president have been elected according to the laws, internal and international. Regarding legitimacy there could be questions only to "overthrovning" Yanu. To make this clear:
1. Yanu self-withdrewed from the execution of his constitutional powers in an unconstitutional manner and was declarated as one that does not execute his duties.
2. Above statements was declared by Resolution #419, and  resolutions required simple majority of deputies.
3. There were enough lawyers and other people in VR who understand the law enough to avoid misunderstandings when creating such resolutions
4. If Yanu such right, and this is so simple that even you prooved that he is still legitimate, why he didn't make a lawsuit to any court for recognition of his legitimacy?He'll easily win that, if he so right, isn't he?
In 1789-1794 the French made a revolution. They overthrew the monarchy and established a Republic. The structure, and even the culture of the society, changed a lot. The bourgeoisie, helped by the sans-culottes, replaced the aristocracy. That's what I call a revolution.
Now if you want to know whether I consider that overthrowing a legitimately elected president to replace him with a chocolate king is a revolution or not, the answer is: no.
Our isn't over yet, it still in progress.
and
In 1830 French made another revolution, in few days overthrow legitimate king and replace to another. Do you consider it as a revolution?
But should I speak of self-determination for those who commemorate publicly SS divisions, especially SS division Das Reich which slaughtered my ancestors at Oradour-sur-Glanes?
We have nothing to do with SS division Das Reich and Oradour-sur-Glanes.

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Off Topic / Re: Ukraine
« on: January 21, 2015, 10:00:23 pm »
1. Nazi Germany invaded the USSR, not the contrary.
2. Ukraine was part of the USSR. Therefore the USSR couldn't invade Ukraine.
Anyone who disagrees with this is a fascist.
1. He was refers to 1945 and later probably, about Group of Soviet Occupation Forces in Germany
2. Why not? The very first USSR  invasion of Ukraine, which was Ukraine National Republic back then, was in 1917-1922. Speaking of WWII, USSR invaded Western Ukraine, that was part of the Polish state, in 17 September 1939 by crossing the Zbruch river.

Although I agree that he probably do not think good before saying something like this, i can't see how this can makes anyone fascist. And seeing how you and other RT/xPR "fans" so easy claims everything pro-Ukrainian as "fascizm/nazism", i doubt you know what this is at all.

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Off Topic / Re: Ukraine
« on: January 16, 2015, 06:01:41 pm »
That isn't Russian camo. That's actually just a green windbreaker that I could buy at any outdoors store lol.
It's Gorka-3, so it is a russian uniform, however it could be bought in stores indeed.

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Off Topic / Re: Ukraine
« on: January 15, 2015, 09:28:56 pm »
Faces of the "russian" world
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"Givi", "Abhaz", "Mongol", "Motorolla"
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Btw, same camo as ISIS uses
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looks like both got it in same russian shop

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