I'll start by saying that the league logo reminds me of Emule 2004 logo:
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Too. Many. Subthreads.Sorry, i dont understand 8th language.
Too. Many. Subthreads.My eyes do be hurting
Match: 1er vs 2Lr
Result: 7 - 6 -- 1er wins 2 points, 2Lr wins 1 point.
Rulebreaks(Yes/No - Expand if there is any rulebreak): --
Screenshot:Additional Comments: Very exceptional match for both teams. Even though the 2Lr were low on attendance they were exceptionally good and made the final game very close to the point of having to finally fight a bo3. Good game to both teams.Spoiler(https://i.imgur.com/qMxX0vM.png)[close]
Announcement
We announce a big rule change that came about because of unfortunate events where members were left out. This is not something that we want to see. We want everyone to be given the chance to play as it is not fair to the organizers or your own members. From now on regiments will be divided into two different tiers. In tier-1 we will have the 4e, 1er, 2Lr, Nr4, CB and 8th. In tier-2 we will have 33rd, 5to, Nr10 and 6e. It will still be one league but the expectations for the numbers will be less on the tier-2. So basically we expect the tier-1 to bring a minimum of 15 players and the tier-2 will try to bring 12. But if a regiment only has 2 players needed then they will be allowed to play but there will not be a perfect balance. Is this rule change fair? I don't think it is fair towards the regiments in tier-2 who might be struggling with numbers but it came about before the whole situation with the minimum of 10 players rule gets out of control. Additionally, we will add a rule that does not allow you to make ludicrous additions to your roster ahead of a game against your rivals. Also, if two regiments end up with the same points for the first position the decider will be whoever won the meeting between them. Thanks for understanding.
What do you people think about the change in minimum attendance?SpoilerAnnouncement
We announce a big rule change that came about because of unfortunate events where members were left out. This is not something that we want to see. We want everyone to be given the chance to play as it is not fair to the organizers or your own members. From now on regiments will be divided into two different tiers. In tier-1 we will have the 4e, 1er, 2Lr, Nr4, CB and 8th. In tier-2 we will have 33rd, 5to, Nr10 and 6e. It will still be one league but the expectations for the numbers will be less on the tier-2. So basically we expect the tier-1 to bring a minimum of 15 players and the tier-2 will try to bring 12. But if a regiment only has 2 players needed then they will be allowed to play but there will not be a perfect balance. Is this rule change fair? I don't think it is fair towards the regiments in tier-2 who might be struggling with numbers but it came about before the whole situation with the minimum of 10 players rule gets out of control. Additionally, we will add a rule that does not allow you to make ludicrous additions to your roster ahead of a game against your rivals. Also, if two regiments end up with the same points for the first position the decider will be whoever won the meeting between them. Thanks for understanding.[close]
What do you people think about the change in minimum attendance?SpoilerAnnouncement
We announce a big rule change that came about because of unfortunate events where members were left out. This is not something that we want to see. We want everyone to be given the chance to play as it is not fair to the organizers or your own members. From now on regiments will be divided into two different tiers. In tier-1 we will have the 4e, 1er, 2Lr, Nr4, CB and 8th. In tier-2 we will have 33rd, 5to, Nr10 and 6e. It will still be one league but the expectations for the numbers will be less on the tier-2. So basically we expect the tier-1 to bring a minimum of 15 players and the tier-2 will try to bring 12. But if a regiment only has 2 players needed then they will be allowed to play but there will not be a perfect balance. Is this rule change fair? I don't think it is fair towards the regiments in tier-2 who might be struggling with numbers but it came about before the whole situation with the minimum of 10 players rule gets out of control. Additionally, we will add a rule that does not allow you to make ludicrous additions to your roster ahead of a game against your rivals. Also, if two regiments end up with the same points for the first position the decider will be whoever won the meeting between them. Thanks for understanding.[close]
What do you people think about the change in minimum attendance?SpoilerAnnouncement
We announce a big rule change that came about because of unfortunate events where members were left out. This is not something that we want to see. We want everyone to be given the chance to play as it is not fair to the organizers or your own members. From now on regiments will be divided into two different tiers. In tier-1 we will have the 4e, 1er, 2Lr, Nr4, CB and 8th. In tier-2 we will have 33rd, 5to, Nr10 and 6e. It will still be one league but the expectations for the numbers will be less on the tier-2. So basically we expect the tier-1 to bring a minimum of 15 players and the tier-2 will try to bring 12. But if a regiment only has 2 players needed then they will be allowed to play but there will not be a perfect balance. Is this rule change fair? I don't think it is fair towards the regiments in tier-2 who might be struggling with numbers but it came about before the whole situation with the minimum of 10 players rule gets out of control. Additionally, we will add a rule that does not allow you to make ludicrous additions to your roster ahead of a game against your rivals. Also, if two regiments end up with the same points for the first position the decider will be whoever won the meeting between them. Thanks for understanding.[close]
I think, hopefully uncontroversially, that leagues like this should have one set of rules that apply to every team. In the case that the rules make it very difficult for 4/10 of the teams to actually play, then either the base rules should be reconsidered or the team applications should be more selective. I'm not sure about this compromise where rules standards are lowered in order to pad out the number of competitors.The cavalry scene is nowhere near as active for such a drastic approach. In theory, certain regiments in the CL would probably better belong to a division of their own where you could indeed have a different ruleset, much like it was the case for the RGL in the infantry scene. The issue is, there aren't enough regiments at the moment in the scene to make two divisions so you have to find a middle ground where everyone can play in the same league but also that said league can remain somewhat enjoyable for everyone. A 'selective' approach like it was the case for the CCL where you tell the regiments to either meet the standards or fuck off is inherently unhealthy for the scene, at least in its current state.
I need thorvic or someone else to explain the unbalance thingy in the match of CB vs 5to
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Honestly a little sad that some players can't type gg after a close game, but there are clearly still sore losers in the community in 2020
That random reset really messed with our flow though, not gonna lie.What "flow" lmao?
Sounds like a you problem.That random reset really messed with our flow though, not gonna lie.You're lucky I was eating for the first 5 rounds
The loss sounds like a you problem too, don't hear me about thatSounds like a you problem.That random reset really messed with our flow though, not gonna lie.You're lucky I was eating for the first 5 rounds
The loss sounds like a you problem too, don't hear me about thatSounds like a you problem.That random reset really messed with our flow though, not gonna lie.You're lucky I was eating for the first 5 rounds
That random reset really messed with our flow though, not gonna lie.What "flow" lmao?
Was your early dismount in a flow?
We had someone who lagged out after being in the lead with only ONE swing actually having hit anything in that round, and did you a favor by resetting it.
You're lucky I was eating for the first 5 rounds
gg?
Can I just say that I’m really impressed with the cav community, 10x more mature than the inf community and a lot less tolerant of the cancerous players :)
Can I just say that I’m really impressed with the cav community, 10x more mature than the inf community and a lot less tolerant of the cancerous players :)
Additional Comments: I want to apologize for the confusion that happened on round 2. Leading and reffing at the same time being a hard task, I happened to have a massive game freeze for up to 2-3 seconds. I told my men on TS to write "hold", without realizing the teams were engaged. Seeing everyone super confused, I reseted the round (some players from the Nr.4 requesting it as well). We did not have any dead or dismounted, the Nr.4 had one man down, so I figured it wouldn't be a problem to correct my mistake. It did not influence the round or the game, and everything kept on going fine. My mistake again, won't happen again, although it didn't influence the outcome of the game.
That random reset really messed with our flow though, not gonna lie.What "flow" lmao?
Was your early dismount in a flow?
We had someone who lagged out after being in the lead with only ONE swing actually having hit anything in that round, and did you a favor by resetting it.
You're lucky I was eating for the first 5 rounds
gg?
who let grandpa on the interwebsThat random reset really messed with our flow though, not gonna lie.What "flow" lmao?
Was your early dismount in a flow?
We had someone who lagged out after being in the lead with only ONE swing actually having hit anything in that round, and did you a favor by resetting it.
You're lucky I was eating for the first 5 rounds
gg?Spoiler(https://i.imgur.com/X8j7vRz.jpg)[close]
Now that the salt is pouring in in vast quantities and the league barely has begun, we can safely say it is A PROPER league. Can't wait to add a pinch of my own once I spot a boiling pot worthy of my spoonful.
why do people always assume Erik is this evil mastermind, trying his best to ruin every competition lmao
Now that the salt is pouring in in vast quantities and the league barely has begun, we can safely say it is A PROPER league. Can't wait to add a pinch of my own once I spot a boiling pot worthy of my spoonful.
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"I'm biased as fuck" - Txm 2k20Who isnt?
Everyone who takes Nr.4 serious is a r*****, these guys were trying to cheat everywhere, are known for recruiting people from other regiments and were toxic and unsportsman all over the match. In the referee steamchat we had people OUTSIDE of the 1erHuss argumenting for us that it is unfair that we get punished for it.
But if you ask me personally, we have shown we were the better team and if you want 3 points for a work you havent done then it says a lot about yourself :)
well it seems like you guys care more about the points than any1 else
well it seems like you guys care more about the points than any1 else
I don't care, it's not me who decides to who the points will go, but atleast I am not too eager to defend a cheater and flaming a regiment by calling them ret arded.
Everyone who takes Nr.4 serious is a r*****, these guys were trying to cheat everywhere, are known for recruiting people from other regiments and were toxic and unsportsman all over the match. In the referee steamchat we had people OUTSIDE of the 1erHuss argumenting for us that it is unfair that we get punished for it.
But if you ask me personally, we have shown we were the better team and if you want 3 points for a work you havent done then it says a lot about yourself :)
well it seems like you guys care more about the points than any1 else
I don't care, it's not me who decides to who the points will go, but atleast I am not too eager to defend a cheater and flaming a regiment by calling them ret arded.
wait wait wait
I never defended the cheater and I totally agree on the punishment so I wont put those socks on
well it seems like you guys care more about the points than any1 else
I don't care, it's not me who decides to who the points will go, but atleast I am not too eager to defend a cheater and flaming a regiment by calling them ret arded.
well it seems like you guys care more about the points than any1 else
I don't care, it's not me who decides to who the points will go, but atleast I am not too eager to defend a cheater and flaming a regiment by calling them ret arded.
*pssst* ciiges is 4e not 1er, these were 2 seperate arguments naz :o
well it seems like you guys care more about the points than any1 else
I don't care, it's not me who decides to who the points will go, but atleast I am not too eager to defend a cheater and flaming a regiment by calling them ret arded.
*pssst* ciiges is 4e not 1er, these were 2 seperate arguments naz :o
Thank you, but I was specifically referring to the "Everyone who takes Nr4 serious is r*****" comment.
It's just that this rule is clearly inappropriate. Yes the rules are this one but they have been changed in terms of the match format. I think this rule needs to be changed. Late, proclaiming such firmness for this tournament seems inappropriate to me. The 1erHuss won, after playing a game to the fullest as they know how. Feezy was banned and the rules are being changed according to what is possible or not. How do you know that Feezy had bad software? How can you be sure it won't happen again? By checking your members' files?
It's just that this rule is clearly inappropriate. Yes the rules are this one but they have been changed in terms of the match format. I think this rule needs to be changed. Late, proclaiming such firmness for this tournament seems inappropriate to me. The 1erHuss won, after playing a game to the fullest as they know how. Feezy was banned and the rules are being changed according to what is possible or not. How do you know that Feezy had bad software? How can you be sure it won't happen again? By checking your members' files?
Feezy posted a screenshot with visible proof of him using it Dragonking.
Nr4: Blatant toxicity, worst reputation in community, openly caught stealing and tempting players from other regiments, their own leader banned from cav-gf for poaching members
Also Nr4: One of their recruits knew my HP give us 3 points :'(
@Quinn
... the Nr4 themselves know they are not the most liked group of people in the community but this has nothing to do with the decision at hands.
Sure, say that to Saphyro, but I'm not debating the decision at hands at all. I'm just taking this opportunity to laugh at those Nr4 clowns. The irony of acting the way they do and then talking about fairness and impartiality is too rich for me to let pass.
atleast I am not too eager to defend a cheater
atleast I am not too eager to defend a cheater
Aren't you the one that cheated in CCL by doubleregimenting?
:thinking:
Yeah you know, break a few rules here and there, rules that you don't consider to be important... expect the absolute perfect adherence from everyone else.I don't need to considering you're just appealing to hypocrisy to avoid coming up with a real counter-argument.
;)
You can save it Naz, Thyrell already is defending your rulebreak for you
1. Players cheating in CCL
From what I can tell this is double reging. Yes, a rule break and from what I recall it was punished accordingly. Is this a major thing or anything substantial? No. Are we the first one to do it. No. Does this make it ok? No.
No obviously not. It's forbidden by the rules and creates an unfair advantage for your regiment. I remember losing points over this issue aswell. (correct me if im wrong it was some time ago)
No obviously not. It's forbidden by the rules and creates an unfair advantage for your regiment. I remember losing points over this issue aswell. (correct me if im wrong it was some time ago)
I am not calling the 1er cheaters at all
Regardless of what opinion you may hold on the situation, I think it's at least fair to acknowledge that the 1er as a whole is a fantastic bunch of guys and that this incident should in no way tarnish - even so slightly - the reputation it took times to build.No obviously not. It's forbidden by the rules and creates an unfair advantage for your regiment. I remember losing points over this issue aswell. (correct me if im wrong it was some time ago)
I am not calling the 1er cheaters at all
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1. Players cheating in CCL
From what I can tell this is double reging. Yes, a rule break and from what I recall it was punished accordingly. Is this a major thing or anything substantial? No. Are we the first one to do it. No. Does this make it ok? No.
2. Felix being banned on your server for recruiting players.
It is my opinion that if you're unable to keep players in your regiment that's entirely your fault. Nobodys signing contracts. It's a game nobody is forced to stay in one group. You can't claim a moral high ground because someone enticed someone to play for them instead of you and you then out of childish rage banned them on your server. Not to mention that this is something everyone does at some point.
Im pretty sad seeing such toxicness of this level again (I remember some people saying that the cavalry community is such a friendly one).It is until it comes to competitions ;)
Not always though as I have seen alot of friendly messages after matches :)Im pretty sad seeing such toxicness of this level again (I remember some people saying that the cavalry community is such a friendly one).It is until it comes to competitions ;)
Im pretty sad seeing such toxicness of this level again (I remember some people saying that the cavalry community is such a friendly one).
@Saphyro Please refrain from using offensive language like that. Flaming a whole regiment wont make it better in any way.
@Quinn It seems to me like you have some old problems with the Nr4 and needed a reason to bring stuff up again. Talk wth people over Steam if you want to clarify that but keep that toxicness out of the forums please. It is not needed.
let's give the title to the 33rd and call it a day.+1
While you are having this absolutely pointless discussion, the children in Aless' basement are starving! Please think of the children!
supportlet's give the title to the 33rd and call it a day.+1
In an ideal world
After deep thought and consideration the 1er will be punished on the account of their players actions, honour compels me to do so as the rules are the rules and as head ref I must obey & up hold them. Although, the 1er won on the field the rules were indeed broken so Nr4 will take the 3 points. I expect all regiments and players to show respect and to behave like adults.
You can't prove he used it in the match versus you, can you?
You can't 100% prove he used it in the match versus you, can you? Unless Feezy admitted he used it in this match as well, in that case, yeah it makes sense to apply the same ruling for both matches.
After deep thought and consideration the 1er will be punished on the account of their players actions, honour compels me to do so as the rules are the rules and as head ref I must obey & up hold them. Although, the 1er won on the field the rules were indeed broken so Nr4 will take the 3 points. I expect all regiments and players to show respect and to behave like adults.
How is their situation different from our?
Feezy played in the Match 2Lr vs. 1er aswell.
The rules and situation are still the same, so why is there a different outcome?
I've heard one argument against a autowin for us
"Because at this point I think it is pretty clear that the 2Lr also broke the rules by attending with the minimum attendance, even though they clearly had more people at hand (as it is proven by mutliple sources even in the regiment).
So it'd be rulebreak going against rulebreak"
Our Situation during the match
It is true that we didnt have a great attendance that day, sure, true.
But at this point the only rule regarding attendance was to bring at least 10 players and we had 12.
I trust that ppl. from 2Lr played on cavgf during our match as many have told me but I didnt know about it during the match. As our TS was down during the match we didnt know if anyone else was there willing to play. I am glad the Nr. 13 allowed us to use their TS.
We started the tournament with a "small" team to play in the CL containing 20 ppl. (again, no rule says anything against this) and only 3 of them signed off. So we expected 17 ppl. to show up to the match... well, we all know how it went and only 12 actually came. As our TS was down we had to look for someone else's teamspeak we could use for the match and asked some other regiments. They allowed us to use their TS for the match but asked us to not use their TS as a backup for our TS. So we didnt publish their IP and instead only send the IP to the people in our CL team. Because of that the ppl. on cavgf didnt know where to find us and prob. forgot about the match or didnt know about it as we only mentioned it once and afterwards only in our CL Team.
I spoke with a few ppl. after out match against 1er and they all said it's not fair in their eyes to not bring everyone we had. Lindblom also made a rule that we had to bring atleast 15 ppl. We respect it and will try to get to 15 men in the future and disbanded our CL Team.
All this is just to show, that there was no rule breaking or vile intention in having a bad attendance that day, and after realizing that it appears like we had the intention to play with as few ppl. as posible we changed our plan.
We are not trying to rig the competition and are acting sportsmanlike.. We have been told our concept is not appropiate and we reconsidered it and eventually changed it.
I am saying this because we were accused of breaking rule § 1.
"since they 'at least' violated § 1, especially when it comes to sportsmanship and respect for the competition and the ruleset as a whole"
We didnt break a rule
Minimum attendance
You could say that we would harm the spirit of the rule when bringing only 10 (which we didnt) but why even make a rule of bringing at least 10 ppl. when you are not allowed to do that eighter?
We even had more than 10 and as stated multiple times now, we tried to bring more.
Sportsmanship
I feel like I already made clear, that we didnt intend to act unsportsmanlike as we didnt intentionally had a low attendance and didnt know about the ppl. on cavgf during that time.
we expected 17 ppl. to come. We didnt ask the ppl, who played on cavgf to join us, because I didnt know about them being there and to this day I still dont know who 2/3 ppl. were who played on cavgf. Besides, having 3 ppl. play on cavgf during a match is not breaking a rule. Not saying we did it on purpose, like I said above, I didnt even know about it, but even if it was on purpose, it would not have been against a rule.
Like I already said, we even got rid of our CL Team to act according to the way Lindblom has intended the tournament. He said after our match that the tournament was meant so everyone could get a chance to play. We respect that.
With all this being said I really dont see how we broke a rule, even Bedo agreed with me after our match that we didnt break a rule (but mentioned it's not nice to play with less than possible).
Spirit of the rules
Also "the spirit of the rules" wasnt harmed in any way in my opinion as the only rule in terms of attendance was to bring at least 10 (the rule with min. 12 or 15 per match was introduced after our match against 1er).
We had more than that, so how is that against the spirit then?
1erHuss rulebreak against us is the same as their rulebreak against Nr. 4. Feezy used the hp mod.
As we didnt break a rule in our match there is no argument anymore speaking against us getting the autowin against 1er
Referring to this ("Because at this point I think it is pretty clear that the 2Lr also broke the rules by attending with the minimum attendance, even though they clearly had more people at hand (as it is proven by mutliple sources even in the regiment).
So it'd be rulebreak going against rulebreak")
Leaving me with the opening question
Feezy played in the Match 2Lr vs. 1er aswell.
The rules and the situation are still the same, so why is there a different outcome?
It is the same case, so a diffrent punishment would be unjustified.
Repeating the most important points, as it is important to me that everyone knows about them and doenst call us unsportsmanlike. Because we didnt have a bad attendance on purpose
We disbanded our CL team and went back to playing with everyone as soon as we were told its not fair in their opinion. (We initially had a different oppinion on that but changed it afterwards. It is important to note that we still expected 17 ppl. besides having a CL team)
We didnt break a rule by having a bad attendance.
1er broke the same rule in their match against us as in their match against nr4.
I've tried to settle this without publically posting about it and adressed this already in the Cl ref. chat.
Even someone from 1er said "Just to Make sure, either 2Lr AND nr.4 get the points or none of these"
I really cant see why our match was left unadressed then.
Your ts was maybe down but Tival told your guys on cavgf that there was a match going on in which they were needed and didn’t feel interested tho just to sayI didnt know about that aswell, we were on nr. 13 TS I guess someone from Nr. 13 could confirm they didnt join us.
You can't 100% prove he used it in the match versus you, can you? Unless Feezy admitted he used it in this match as well, in that case, yeah it makes sense to apply the same ruling for both matches.
well, the screenshots in the steamchats kinda show that it is very similar, he didnt screenshot the scoreboard where you can see it but he screenshot the 1er standing at spawn and the overlay seems to be similar/the same
Your ts was maybe down but Tival told your guys on cavgf that there was a match going on in which they were needed and didn’t feel interested tho just to sayI didnt know about that aswell, we were on nr. 13 TS I guess someone from Nr. 13 could confirm they didnt join us.You can't 100% prove he used it in the match versus you, can you? Unless Feezy admitted he used it in this match as well, in that case, yeah it makes sense to apply the same ruling for both matches.
well, the screenshots in the steamchats kinda show that it is very similar, he didnt screenshot the scoreboard where you can see it but he screenshot the 1er standing at spawn and the overlay seems to be similar/the same
Your ts was maybe down but Tival told your guys on cavgf that there was a match going on in which they were needed and didn’t feel interested tho just to sayI didnt know about that aswell, we were on nr. 13 TS I guess someone from Nr. 13 could confirm they didnt join us.You can't 100% prove he used it in the match versus you, can you? Unless Feezy admitted he used it in this match as well, in that case, yeah it makes sense to apply the same ruling for both matches.
well, the screenshots in the steamchats kinda show that it is very similar, he didnt screenshot the scoreboard where you can see it but he screenshot the 1er standing at spawn and the overlay seems to be similar/the same
I mean you got your regimental mates on steam, you could have realized they play M&B right?
I feel like goodest claiming its just low attendance is the most boy who cried wolf thing I've ever heard. If 2lr hadn't dropped players intentionally in literally every tournament they've ever played in previously I might've even believed you ;)
Its stupid to take away points from a team due to 1 persons mistake. There is literally no point in a tournament if teams start getting points they did not win. If Freezy was using like god mode or something then I would say yah that was an unfair cheat and they should get the points. But it only shows health on a scoreboard... Its not like it gave an advantage to the entire 1er. True he should be banned as it was against the rules... but don't punish the entire 1er because of that.
I do wonder whether goodest feels that its worth it to risk ruining the league just so the 2lr can place 5th instead of 6th
Then the rules should be re-looked at. Its a tournament, the results should be accurate and not changed by 1 person using something that barely affected the match. 1er played incredibly hard both matches and deserve the points they got.DragonKing already confirmed that theyll debate over a rule change. The rule still stands and nobody said anything against it so its just fair that it is punished accordingly.
Then the rules should be re-looked at. Its a tournament, the results should be accurate and not changed by 1 person using something that barely affected the match. 1er played incredibly hard both matches and deserve the points they got.Sadly it's like that in a "team sport", the team suffers under the mistakes of few.
For the 2Lr case there are just too many variables that are more than questionable and vague so it ends up being one word against the other. In that case I'd call it in dubio pro reo meaning the 1er can keep their points.
Pictures you can hearFor the 2Lr case there are just too many variables that are more than questionable and vague so it ends up being one word against the other. In that case I'd call it in dubio pro reo meaning the 1er can keep their points.Spoiler(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/O-tfGuZShKQ/maxresdefault.jpg)[close]
After deep thought and consideration the 1er will be punished on the account of their players actions, honour compels me to do so as the rules are the rules and as head ref I must obey & up hold them. Although, the 1er won on the field the rules were indeed broken so Nr4 will take the 3 points. I expect all regiments and players to show respect and to behave like adults.
How is their situation different from our?
Feezy played in the Match 2Lr vs. 1er aswell.
The rules and situation are still the same, so why is there a different outcome?
I've heard one argument against a autowin for us
"Because at this point I think it is pretty clear that the 2Lr also broke the rules by attending with the minimum attendance, even though they clearly had more people at hand (as it is proven by mutliple sources even in the regiment).
So it'd be rulebreak going against rulebreak"
Our Situation during the match
It is true that we didnt have a great attendance that day, sure, true.
But at this point the only rule regarding attendance was to bring at least 10 players and we had 12.
I trust that ppl. from 2Lr played on cavgf during our match as many have told me but I didnt know about it during the match. As our TS was down during the match we didnt know if anyone else was there willing to play. I am glad the Nr. 13 allowed us to use their TS.
We started the tournament with a "small" team to play in the CL containing 20 ppl. (again, no rule says anything against this) and only 3 of them signed off. So we expected 17 ppl. to show up to the match... well, we all know how it went and only 12 actually came. As our TS was down we had to look for someone else's teamspeak we could use for the match and asked some other regiments. They allowed us to use their TS for the match but asked us to not use their TS as a backup for our TS. So we didnt publish their IP and instead only send the IP to the people in our CL team. Because of that the ppl. on cavgf didnt know where to find us and prob. forgot about the match or didnt know about it as we only mentioned it once and afterwards only in our CL Team.
I spoke with a few ppl. after out match against 1er and they all said it's not fair in their eyes to not bring everyone we had. Lindblom also made a rule that we had to bring atleast 15 ppl. We respect it and will try to get to 15 men in the future and disbanded our CL Team.
All this is just to show, that there was no rule breaking or vile intention in having a bad attendance that day, and after realizing that it appears like we had the intention to play with as few ppl. as posible we changed our plan.
We are not trying to rig the competition and are acting sportsmanlike.. We have been told our concept is not appropiate and we reconsidered it and eventually changed it.
I am saying this because we were accused of breaking rule § 1.
"since they 'at least' violated § 1, especially when it comes to sportsmanship and respect for the competition and the ruleset as a whole"
We didnt break a rule
Minimum attendance
You could say that we would harm the spirit of the rule when bringing only 10 (which we didnt) but why even make a rule of bringing at least 10 ppl. when you are not allowed to do that eighter?
We even had more than 10 and as stated multiple times now, we tried to bring more.
Sportsmanship
I feel like I already made clear, that we didnt intend to act unsportsmanlike as we didnt intentionally had a low attendance and didnt know about the ppl. on cavgf during that time.
we expected 17 ppl. to come. We didnt ask the ppl, who played on cavgf to join us, because I didnt know about them being there and to this day I still dont know who 2/3 ppl. were who played on cavgf. Besides, having 3 ppl. play on cavgf during a match is not breaking a rule. Not saying we did it on purpose, like I said above, I didnt even know about it, but even if it was on purpose, it would not have been against a rule.
Like I already said, we even got rid of our CL Team to act according to the way Lindblom has intended the tournament. He said after our match that the tournament was meant so everyone could get a chance to play. We respect that.
With all this being said I really dont see how we broke a rule, even Bedo agreed with me after our match that we didnt break a rule (but mentioned it's not nice to play with less than possible).
Spirit of the rules
Also "the spirit of the rules" wasnt harmed in any way in my opinion as the only rule in terms of attendance was to bring at least 10 (the rule with min. 12 or 15 per match was introduced after our match against 1er).
We had more than that, so how is that against the spirit then?
1erHuss rulebreak against us is the same as their rulebreak against Nr. 4. Feezy used the hp mod.
As we didnt break a rule in our match there is no argument anymore speaking against us getting the autowin against 1er
Referring to this ("Because at this point I think it is pretty clear that the 2Lr also broke the rules by attending with the minimum attendance, even though they clearly had more people at hand (as it is proven by mutliple sources even in the regiment).
So it'd be rulebreak going against rulebreak")
Leaving me with the opening question
Feezy played in the Match 2Lr vs. 1er aswell.
The rules and the situation are still the same, so why is there a different outcome?
It is the same case, so a diffrent punishment would be unjustified.
Repeating the most important points, as it is important to me that everyone knows about them and doenst call us unsportsmanlike. Because we didnt have a bad attendance on purpose
We disbanded our CL team and went back to playing with everyone as soon as we were told its not fair in their opinion. (We initially had a different oppinion on that but changed it afterwards. It is important to note that we still expected 17 ppl. besides having a CL team)
We didnt break a rule by having a bad attendance.
1er broke the same rule in their match against us as in their match against nr4.
I've tried to settle this without publically posting about it and adressed this already in the Cl ref. chat.
Even someone from 1er said "Just to Make sure, either 2Lr AND nr.4 get the points or none of these"
I really cant see why our match was left unadressed then.
For the 2Lr case there are just too many variables that are more than questionable and vague so it ends up being one word against the other. In that case I'd call it in dubio pro reo meaning the 1er can keep their points.me using latin(https://pics.wikifeet.com/G%C3%A9rard-Depardieu-Feet-4339288.jpg)[close]
Stop crying.For the 2Lr case there are just too many variables that are more than questionable and vague so it ends up being one word against the other. In that case I'd call it in dubio pro reo meaning the 1er can keep their points.me using latin(https://pics.wikifeet.com/G%C3%A9rard-Depardieu-Feet-4339288.jpg)[close]
How is this "one word against the other"?
Feezy using the HP mod against Nr4 is proven... It is a ridiculous assumption that he somehow removed the health display from the mod in the match against us and then added it again when playing against Nr. 4.
All this speculative dribble , The admins need hard evidence proving your points not what you know to the best of your knowledge. Last night Feezy was caught red handed with this HP mod, now if you have any hard evidence approach myself or another admin.
Stop crying.All this speculative dribble , The admins need hard evidence proving your points not what you know to the best of your knowledge. Last night Feezy was caught red handed with this HP mod, now if you have any hard evidence approach myself or another admin.how does this not prove the case?Spoiler(https://i.gyazo.com/4b67eb6189c4428e7305fc2c62960719.jpg)[close]
All this speculative dribble , The admins need hard evidence proving your points not what you know to the best of your knowledge. Last night Feezy was caught red handed with this HP mod, now if you have any hard evidence approach myself or another admin.
All this speculative dribble , The admins need hard evidence proving your points not what you know to the best of your knowledge. Last night Feezy was caught red handed with this HP mod, now if you have any hard evidence approach myself or another admin.how does this not prove the case?Spoiler(https://i.gyazo.com/4b67eb6189c4428e7305fc2c62960719.jpg)[close]
Its a texture pack. But if you want be very good install it and you will be able to do +100 kill for 0 death in match dw. ;)All this speculative dribble , The admins need hard evidence proving your points not what you know to the best of your knowledge. Last night Feezy was caught red handed with this HP mod, now if you have any hard evidence approach myself or another admin.Don't you think the similarity of UI is prove enough that it has been the same modification?Spoiler(https://i.imgur.com/eYErXhP.png)[close]
I don't think the author created a version with and without HP ;D
Also anyone find it funny that goodest seems to want the points more then felix, and that was the match it was proven he was cheating in xD
But I just can't agree on any regiment getting an automatic loss from a mistake of one person.
I can completely agree on Freezy getting banned as using it was against the rules. But I just can't agree on any regiment getting an automatic loss from a mistake of one person. I'm pretty sure if he was using it with intent and knowing he was breaking the rules, I doubt he would of done a screenshot himself. I'd say the same thing if this case happend to any other regs.
Fuck playing among us with all of you!
I can completely agree on Freezy getting banned as using it was against the rules. But I just can't agree on any regiment getting an automatic loss from a mistake of one person. I'm pretty sure if he was using it with intent and knowing he was breaking the rules, I doubt he would of done a screenshot himself. I'd say the same thing if this case happend to any other regs.
Also anyone find it funny that goodest seems to want the points more then felix, and that was the match it was proven he was cheating in xD
I think I want the points as much as Felix wants to have them, he just didnt have to fight as hard for them because his case was obvious and I had to fight accusations of breaking rules ourselves and a screenshot proving feezy as guilty but without the nr4 screenshot to compare it to prob. not convincing enough for you (considering the previous responses to it before swissys post).
And besides, our match was even closer than nr4 match.
I can completely agree on Freezy getting banned as using it was against the rules. But I just can't agree on any regiment getting an automatic loss from a mistake of one person. I'm pretty sure if he was using it with intent and knowing he was breaking the rules, I doubt he would of done a screenshot himself. I'd say the same thing if this case happend to any other regs.An automatic loss is not what most people suggested as it would clearly be overkill but it's also putting a blind eye to the problem than saying the cheat was literally impactless in that match. I think we all agree it's more than likely nothing 'major' but even the slightest of advantage gained could have turned into something bigger in some of the rounds the 1er won. Where do you draw the line when it's all speculations and what not? Taking away one or two rounds in such a situation seems a fair middle-ground between doing nothing and giving a default win to your opponents. It's not the 'perfect' solution by any mean but it certainly seems like the fairest approach to me. Every decent middle-ground agreement I can come-up with always seem harsh towards the 1er no matter which way you look at it but that still not a reason for them not to be applied.
But I just can't agree on any regiment getting an automatic loss from a mistake of one person.
You actually did by accepting the rules :o
Yeah, agreed with Dragon. Consistency in decisions is important too. I don't think there is much doubt to be had on Feezy also using it in the match, you can see the mod is the same, we don't need to see the actual scoreboard to acknowledge he had access to it in that match too.
And just as Dragon pointed it out, applying the same ruling to the 2Lr vs 1erHuss match would be incredibly hurtful too yet again, it's either the rule works for everyone the same or they don't at all. It's a shitty situation, I think we can all agree on that and I don't see how you can get away with it (from an admin perspective) without either hurting one regiment (1er) or treating two others unfairly (Nr4 & 2Lr).
All this speculative dribble , The admins need hard evidence proving your points not what you know to the best of your knowledge. Last night Feezy was caught red handed with this HP mod, now if you have any hard evidence approach myself or another admin.how does this not prove the case?Spoiler(https://i.gyazo.com/4b67eb6189c4428e7305fc2c62960719.jpg)[close]
I think everyone is aware that Feezy used his cheat against you. The evidence you offer is moreover convincing and irrefutable. Nevertheless, I am of the opinion that a double penalty should not be carried out against the 1erHuss who, for the moment, has more to fear from certain rules than from regiments. All the more so since, as Dokletian said, this match was already played in circumstances bordering on the anti-game.
On the other hand, I find it curious that some people who want to apply the rules to the end don't do so here. I'm not aiming at anyone of course but let's say that if we follow the reasoning the 2lr should also have an auto-win. Which I don't think would be right, of course
I can completely agree on Freezy getting banned as using it was against the rules. But I just can't agree on any regiment getting an automatic loss from a mistake of one person. I'm pretty sure if he was using it with intent and knowing he was breaking the rules, I doubt he would of done a screenshot himself. I'd say the same thing if this case happend to any other regs.An automatic loss is not what most people suggested as it would clearly be overkill but it's also putting a blind eye to the problem than saying the cheat was literally impactless in that match. I think we all agree it's more than likely nothing 'major' but even the slightest of advantage gained could have turned into something bigger in some of the rounds the 1er won. Where do you draw the line when it's all speculations and what not? Taking away one or two rounds in such a situation seems a fair middle-ground between doing nothing and giving a default win to your opponents. It's not the 'perfect' solution by any mean but it certainly seems like the fairest approach to me. Every decent middle-ground agreement I can come-up with always seem harsh towards the 1er no matter which way you look at it but that still not a reason for them not to be applied.
Remember we do not only look at the 1er's situation but also as a way to come-up with a ruling and follow-up punishments which would make sense if similar incidents were to happen again. Regardless of how this emotionally impacts you, try to take some perspective and think outside of the box.
PS: Also when it comes to the 2Lr's match, would be nice to know if Feenzy actually played at all cause screenshots of one round (with or without him on it) don't prove much. Logs could help in that case.
But I just can't agree on any regiment getting an automatic loss from a mistake of one person.
But I just can't agree on any regiment getting an automatic loss from a mistake of one person.
Regiments lose due to one person's mistake often enough, it's just that this time we have Feezy cheating instead of Quack performing a random crlt+j and causing a fatal blob in the last round while the score is 4:5.
But I just can't agree on any regiment getting an automatic loss from a mistake of one person.
Regiments lose due to one person's mistake often enough, it's just that this time we have Feezy cheating instead of Quack performing a random crlt+j and causing a fatal blob in the last round while the score is 4:5.
bad comparison though xD
What happened ? The hp mod dont made the player get more than 50 kill with 0 death in match ???Also anyone find it funny that goodest seems to want the points more then felix, and that was the match it was proven he was cheating in xD
I think I want the points as much as Felix wants to have them, he just didnt have to fight as hard for them because his case was obvious and I had to fight accusations of breaking rules ourselves and a screenshot proving feezy as guilty but without the nr4 screenshot to compare it to prob. not convincing enough for you (considering the previous responses to it before swissys post).
And besides, our match was even closer than nr4 match.
Yes... He really effects the outcome of the match xD
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Freezy was only in 1 to 2 rounds and really did not effect that match.Just provided a screenshot proving he played atleast 7 rounds. Also why would I not speak up, when we are treated injust?
Please, get some sportsman ship mah dude. If you lose you don't get points, thats how a tournament works. I would not have to call you out if you were not pushing for free points soooooooooooo much. So refresh your mind, accept that this is a case between Nr4 and 1er and move on.
Also everyone is saying I agreed to the rules? Only the regiment leaders agree to the rules lol. There is no way to tell for anyone 1 leader who is using a texture pack that shows hp of players. Not unless the person tells you about it. But yes, please stop begging for points just as you see a possible chance for them. Anyway if you read this thanks for reading lol. I'm gonna go and have some fun playing games! :)
Also everyone is saying I agreed to the rules?
Also everyone is saying I agreed to the rules?
Maybe cuz u did
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=44321.msg1953132#msg1953132
Just provided a screenshot proving he played atleast 7 rounds. Also why would I not speak up, when we are treated injust?
Why should Nr. 4 get the autowin and not us
Just provided a screenshot proving he played atleast 7 rounds. Also why would I not speak up, when we are treated injust?
Why should Nr. 4 get the autowin and not us
Maybe cuz for the Nr4 we have a proof and we don't have any proof for 2Lr's one...
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I know that it proves nothing but just to show you that everyone can be suspect :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Maybe cuz for the Nr4 we have a proof and we don't have any proof for 2Lr's one...
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I know that it proves nothing but just to show you that everyone can be suspect :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Now that the salt is pouring in in vast quantities and the league barely has begun, we can safely say it is A PROPER league. Can't wait to add a pinch of my own once I spot a boiling pot worthy of my spoonful.
Well, aren't we going to do the one with the biggest one? The one who has never made a mistake throws the first stone. Now it's going much too far. We all agree that the Nr4 got points against the 1er Huss thanks to the rules but not on the battlefield. I don't think blaming or answering changes anything. It would be good to keep a good atmosphere for the rest of the tournament. and to look forward to the next matches as the tournament is just beginning.
Well, aren't we going to do the one with the biggest one? The one who has never made a mistake throws the first stone. Now it's going much too far. We all agree that the Nr4 got points against the 1er Huss thanks to the rules but not on the battlefield. I don't think blaming or answering changes anything. It would be good to keep a good atmosphere for the rest of the tournament. and to look forward to the next matches as the tournament is just beginning.
Announcement
... If any player is caught cheating then that player will be held responsible and banned for the rest of the tournament. The regiment will from now on lose one round instead of having to forfeit the whole game...
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Change my skin*Spoiler(https://i.imgflip.com/4g9unv.jpg)[close]
Good luck to every team playing tonight. Although the last week was pretty tense with all the discussion on the forums, I hope we can keep in mind it's a game, nobody's life is at stake and although the main aim is to try and win (for most regiments), the most important remains to enjoy yourselves and have fun alongside your mates.
Lets have some proper cavalry matches tonight! 8)
Please let people write in allchat, I need the banter. You have taken away the only enjoyable thing about the game :'( :(Just banter here
Please let people write in allchat, I need the banter. You have taken away the only enjoyable thing about the game :'( :(
How ironic that this is coming from you.Please let people write in allchat, I need the banter. You have taken away the only enjoyable thing about the game :'( :(
*Snip*
How ironic that this is coming from you.
I still have enough of the countless provocation so just stop it. I told you that before.How ironic that this is coming from you.
Well you have nothing on me to be honest, but I understand that you are incredibly biased, you've shown it before, and luckily I don't care for your opinion in the slightest.
I provoked nothing, but okayDirect provocation to Iniskill with 0 reason to do so.
Big 2.5 hours match. Let's never do it again.I must say i thoroughly enjoyed every second.
GG's 4enice duel my man
4e is offically nominating 'IVe_6e_Huss_Rec_JoeCobra' for League's MVP.I back this
Is using PEDs against the rules?what is a 'PED'?
Is using PEDs against the rules?what is a 'PED'?
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Is using PEDs against the rules?what is a 'PED'?
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I cant actually tell if thats a joke or not :-\I actually do not know
I cant actually tell if thats a joke or not :-\I actually do not know
we regularly drug test our members, you would not believe how coked up freyr is on a daily basisI cant actually tell if thats a joke or not :-\I actually do not know
Performance Enhancing Drugs.
Steroids. Or for gaming for example adderall
"It has come to the attention of Cavalry League administrators that a number of players wishing to leave their current regiment"this new rule is an answer to individuals who just do not feel comfortable in their own regiment anymore and want to change it. The intention is not to give everyone a free pass to leave their regiments to just join a title favorite because they wanna win so badly.
"have the right to add one player, and one player only to their roster"
I have difficulties to understand why only one person could join a team ?
A limit of 3 or 4 players will be more accurate if we all have transfers
And, of course, I'm not really agree with this new rule, it could give the idea of leaving a regiment which are losing for now the tourney
"It has come to the attention of Cavalry League administrators that a number of players wishing to leave their current regiment"this new rule is an answer to individuals who just do not feel comfortable in their own regiment anymore and want to change it. The intention is not to give everyone a free pass to leave their regiments to just join a title favorite because they wanna win so badly.
"have the right to add one player, and one player only to their roster"
I have difficulties to understand why only one person could join a team ?
A limit of 3 or 4 players will be more accurate if we all have transfers
And, of course, I'm not really agree with this new rule, it could give the idea of leaving a regiment which are losing for now the tourney
Yep yep, understood.
But just one example :
After 2 weeks, 6e got 0 points. Imagine that 5 persons of my own regiment know that we have a ridiculous chance to get on the podium. They could try to go each in one different regiment with this new rule, even if they got a risk of getting out of the tourney.
I'm just complaining about a new edit on rules, of something really clear at the start of this competition. "No transfer"
But, as always, I let admin make the best choice ;)
bad rule!
What about we do as all the previous cavalry leagues did, which is no roster change (no offense towards St0m)
Tailor-made rules made for one party's interest, nice.
In one of the past cavalry leagues, hosted by Kanade Tachibana, there used to be a "one invite rule" which allowed each regiment to add one person from regiments outside of the league to their roster and have their help during the competition. The explaination was similiar as the one we get now: "we don't want to leave players out" (during that season, a portion of competetive players were left out, mainly due to the famous Nr. 3 Branderburgischeblablalblaregiment not entering). Oddly enough, Erik was very opposed to this feature at the time so it's ironic to see him now announce a rule which loosens the legitimacy of rosters even more, with similiar excuse being given for it's implementation. Ironic but not surprising.
If this rule will be allowed to pass by regimental leaders and if we will see what we all expect to see as it's direct conseqence then, uhm... well, nothing, to be honest. Whoever has to lose will lose anyway and it's not like the rules of this league have any credit left to forfeit.
I mean it is probably just coincidence, but announcing this rule shortly after st0m left 1er for 4e, quite funny to say the least.
You really only see the short-term picture don't you? And why the fuck would I have a grudge against st0m when I don't even know the guy?I mean it is probably just coincidence, but announcing this rule shortly after st0m left 1er for 4e, quite funny to say the least.
Whatever it is you guys have with St0m you should discuss it directly with him. He has obviously been a factor towards the admin team discussing a transfer window, as have the 3 or 4 other players requesting the possibility to change teams.
At the end of the day this is a rule made for the players, you wouldn't want to be forced to stick around a community where you don't feel you belong anymore, and you wouldn't want to be kept away from competing at this stage of the game, for over a month and with a nations cup coming up. Sounds like common sense to me
You really only see the short-term picture don't you? And why the fuck would I have a grudge against st0m when I don't even know the guy?I mean it is probably just coincidence, but announcing this rule shortly after st0m left 1er for 4e, quite funny to say the least.
Whatever it is you guys have with St0m you should discuss it directly with him. He has obviously been a factor towards the admin team discussing a transfer window, as have the 3 or 4 other players requesting the possibility to change teams.
At the end of the day this is a rule made for the players, you wouldn't want to be forced to stick around a community where you don't feel you belong anymore, and you wouldn't want to be kept away from competing at this stage of the game, for over a month and with a nations cup coming up. Sounds like common sense to me
If your arguments are gonna be things taken from years ago, and not even related to the topic, you might as well stick to posting obscure videos to fuel your sArCAsm
You're talking about an invite rule, this transfer window allows people a single switch of teams, but they actually have to be a part of the regiment they're going to play for, to meaningfully join said-regiment.
Since we are doing rules for individuals, I'm gonna put in that any regiment with a Shark should get 10 points!2nd rule: a regiment with Shark and Coco got one point for each kill both of they have :)
If your arguments are gonna be things taken from years ago, and not even related to the topic, you might as well stick to posting obscure videos to fuel your sArCAsm
You're talking about an invite rule, this transfer window allows people a single switch of teams, but they actually have to be a part of the regiment they're going to play for, to meaningfully join said-regiment.
If there was anything that made membership "meaningful" it was the fact that once you made your decision prior to launching the league, it was definitive and set you up for the entirety of the competition. The rule you came up with erases the word "meaningful" from our dictionary, the sheer unprecedentedness of enabling players to participate in matches with more than one regiment during one and the same season of a league is simply the heaviest blow you can deliver to the sense of legitimacy that a membership in a regiment holds. There is good reason why it was never allowed before.
I'm particularly appalled because when it suited your interest in the past, you didn't hesitate to play the role of "legit memership" police and unleash your sanctimonious concern on rival regiments. Now you want St0m so you casually jump over to the opposite side of the barricade. But it's just too transparent. You already know very well that I and many others don't consider you a honourable player and I'm sure you're at peace with that thought, but what you did now doesn't even pretend to disguise itself for the sake of your image with the rest of community, you might just as well stand on a podium and shout: "I'll do anything for a slightest fortification of my regiment and its chances to win, be it skinning little kittens alive or sucking a dick!!!!!"
Genuinely curious to see if it pays off.
God damn Erik rigging everything again!!11 ;_;SpoilerIf your arguments are gonna be things taken from years ago, and not even related to the topic, you might as well stick to posting obscure videos to fuel your sArCAsm
You're talking about an invite rule, this transfer window allows people a single switch of teams, but they actually have to be a part of the regiment they're going to play for, to meaningfully join said-regiment.
If there was anything that made membership "meaningful" it was the fact that once you made your decision prior to launching the league, it was definitive and set you up for the entirety of the competition. The rule you came up with erases the word "meaningful" from our dictionary, the sheer unprecedentedness of enabling players to participate in matches with more than one regiment during one and the same season of a league is simply the heaviest blow you can deliver to the sense of legitimacy that a membership in a regiment holds. There is good reason why it was never allowed before.
I'm particularly appalled because when it suited your interest in the past, you didn't hesitate to play the role of "legit memership" police and unleash your sanctimonious concern on rival regiments. Now you want St0m so you casually jump over to the opposite side of the barricade. But it's just too transparent. You already know very well that I and many others don't consider you a honourable player and I'm sure you're at peace with that thought, but what you did now doesn't even pretend to disguise itself for the sake of your image with the rest of community, you might just as well stand on a podium and shout: "I'll do anything for a slightest fortification of my regiment and its chances to win, be it skinning little kittens alive or sucking a dick!!!!!"
Genuinely curious to see if it pays off.[close]
Also Rastignac, the idea of having a transfer window was taken from the CCL, where a rule like that was also planned, but did not apply because of the abrupt end of the competition.
All of you guys should stop painting the devil on the wall and make the whole new rule bigger than it is (because that just might lead to it becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy); a few individuals seem to be really insecure about players suddenly leaving their regiment, so they try to foreshadow this big 'player migration' - quite frankly, I do not see where this is suddenly coming from and in my opinion it is most unlikely that major players suddenly decide to pack their stuff and join a whole different regiment. People are acting as if the rule would state that one player from every regiment HAS TO change.
The rule is supposed to be a small opportunity for a handful of unfortunate individuals, who the admin team wants to enjoy the (big) rest of the league and I do not see anything wrong with that. Also, I do agree that this in the context of St0m leaving the 1er might appear a bit questionable for some people, but it really is just bad timing, since a few people before were asking for such a possibility already and with St0m a new case came in addition to them.
I would also oppose such a new rule if it would have been implented in the final stages of the tournament and/or would have allowed more than one player per regiment, but the rule as it is right now seems very harmless to me and does not damage the competition at all.
SpoilerGod damn Erik rigging everything again!!11 ;_;SpoilerIf your arguments are gonna be things taken from years ago, and not even related to the topic, you might as well stick to posting obscure videos to fuel your sArCAsm
You're talking about an invite rule, this transfer window allows people a single switch of teams, but they actually have to be a part of the regiment they're going to play for, to meaningfully join said-regiment.
If there was anything that made membership "meaningful" it was the fact that once you made your decision prior to launching the league, it was definitive and set you up for the entirety of the competition. The rule you came up with erases the word "meaningful" from our dictionary, the sheer unprecedentedness of enabling players to participate in matches with more than one regiment during one and the same season of a league is simply the heaviest blow you can deliver to the sense of legitimacy that a membership in a regiment holds. There is good reason why it was never allowed before.
I'm particularly appalled because when it suited your interest in the past, you didn't hesitate to play the role of "legit memership" police and unleash your sanctimonious concern on rival regiments. Now you want St0m so you casually jump over to the opposite side of the barricade. But it's just too transparent. You already know very well that I and many others don't consider you a honourable player and I'm sure you're at peace with that thought, but what you did now doesn't even pretend to disguise itself for the sake of your image with the rest of community, you might just as well stand on a podium and shout: "I'll do anything for a slightest fortification of my regiment and its chances to win, be it skinning little kittens alive or sucking a dick!!!!!"
Genuinely curious to see if it pays off.[close]
Also Rastignac, the idea of having a transfer window was taken from the CCL, where a rule like that was also planned, but did not apply because of the abrupt end of the competition.
All of you guys should stop painting the devil on the wall and make the whole new rule bigger than it is (because that just might lead to it becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy); a few individuals seem to be really insecure about players suddenly leaving their regiment, so they try to foreshadow this big 'player migration' - quite frankly, I do not see where this is suddenly coming from and in my opinion it is most unlikely that major players suddenly decide to pack their stuff and join a whole different regiment. People are acting as if the rule would state that one player from every regiment HAS TO change.
The rule is supposed to be a small opportunity for a handful of unfortunate individuals, who the admin team wants to enjoy the (big) rest of the league and I do not see anything wrong with that. Also, I do agree that this in the context of St0m leaving the 1er might appear a bit questionable for some people, but it really is just bad timing, since a few people before were asking for such a possibility already and with St0m a new case came in addition to them.
I would also oppose such a new rule if it would have been implented in the final stages of the tournament and/or would have allowed more than one player per regiment, but the rule as it is right now seems very harmless to me and does not damage the competition at all.[close]
In my eyes, if you want to play in the tournament, don't leave a reg part way through it. You either leave your reg before it starts or leave afterwards. Anyone who left their regiment during knows the outcome. That being said, if its a player who has not currently played for any regiment in the CL, I see no reason not to allow them to partake.
SpoilerGod damn Erik rigging everything again!!11 ;_;SpoilerIf your arguments are gonna be things taken from years ago, and not even related to the topic, you might as well stick to posting obscure videos to fuel your sArCAsm
You're talking about an invite rule, this transfer window allows people a single switch of teams, but they actually have to be a part of the regiment they're going to play for, to meaningfully join said-regiment.
If there was anything that made membership "meaningful" it was the fact that once you made your decision prior to launching the league, it was definitive and set you up for the entirety of the competition. The rule you came up with erases the word "meaningful" from our dictionary, the sheer unprecedentedness of enabling players to participate in matches with more than one regiment during one and the same season of a league is simply the heaviest blow you can deliver to the sense of legitimacy that a membership in a regiment holds. There is good reason why it was never allowed before.
I'm particularly appalled because when it suited your interest in the past, you didn't hesitate to play the role of "legit memership" police and unleash your sanctimonious concern on rival regiments. Now you want St0m so you casually jump over to the opposite side of the barricade. But it's just too transparent. You already know very well that I and many others don't consider you a honourable player and I'm sure you're at peace with that thought, but what you did now doesn't even pretend to disguise itself for the sake of your image with the rest of community, you might just as well stand on a podium and shout: "I'll do anything for a slightest fortification of my regiment and its chances to win, be it skinning little kittens alive or sucking a dick!!!!!"
Genuinely curious to see if it pays off.[close]
Also Rastignac, the idea of having a transfer window was taken from the CCL, where a rule like that was also planned, but did not apply because of the abrupt end of the competition.
All of you guys should stop painting the devil on the wall and make the whole new rule bigger than it is (because that just might lead to it becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy); a few individuals seem to be really insecure about players suddenly leaving their regiment, so they try to foreshadow this big 'player migration' - quite frankly, I do not see where this is suddenly coming from and in my opinion it is most unlikely that major players suddenly decide to pack their stuff and join a whole different regiment. People are acting as if the rule would state that one player from every regiment HAS TO change.
The rule is supposed to be a small opportunity for a handful of unfortunate individuals, who the admin team wants to enjoy the (big) rest of the league and I do not see anything wrong with that. Also, I do agree that this in the context of St0m leaving the 1er might appear a bit questionable for some people, but it really is just bad timing, since a few people before were asking for such a possibility already and with St0m a new case came in addition to them.
I would also oppose such a new rule if it would have been implented in the final stages of the tournament and/or would have allowed more than one player per regiment, but the rule as it is right now seems very harmless to me and does not damage the competition at all.[close]
In my eyes, if you want to play in the tournament, don't leave a reg part way through it. You either leave your reg before it starts or leave afterwards. Anyone who left their regiment during knows the outcome. That being said, if its a player who has not currently played for any regiment in the CL, I see no reason not to allow them to partake.
I absolutely agree and specially if you take into consideration how many people from DIFFERENT regiments are disagreeing with the rule you should reconsider this rule :)
90% 1er hereSpoilerSpoilerGod damn Erik rigging everything again!!11 ;_;SpoilerIf your arguments are gonna be things taken from years ago, and not even related to the topic, you might as well stick to posting obscure videos to fuel your sArCAsm
You're talking about an invite rule, this transfer window allows people a single switch of teams, but they actually have to be a part of the regiment they're going to play for, to meaningfully join said-regiment.
If there was anything that made membership "meaningful" it was the fact that once you made your decision prior to launching the league, it was definitive and set you up for the entirety of the competition. The rule you came up with erases the word "meaningful" from our dictionary, the sheer unprecedentedness of enabling players to participate in matches with more than one regiment during one and the same season of a league is simply the heaviest blow you can deliver to the sense of legitimacy that a membership in a regiment holds. There is good reason why it was never allowed before.
I'm particularly appalled because when it suited your interest in the past, you didn't hesitate to play the role of "legit memership" police and unleash your sanctimonious concern on rival regiments. Now you want St0m so you casually jump over to the opposite side of the barricade. But it's just too transparent. You already know very well that I and many others don't consider you a honourable player and I'm sure you're at peace with that thought, but what you did now doesn't even pretend to disguise itself for the sake of your image with the rest of community, you might just as well stand on a podium and shout: "I'll do anything for a slightest fortification of my regiment and its chances to win, be it skinning little kittens alive or sucking a dick!!!!!"
Genuinely curious to see if it pays off.[close]
Also Rastignac, the idea of having a transfer window was taken from the CCL, where a rule like that was also planned, but did not apply because of the abrupt end of the competition.
All of you guys should stop painting the devil on the wall and make the whole new rule bigger than it is (because that just might lead to it becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy); a few individuals seem to be really insecure about players suddenly leaving their regiment, so they try to foreshadow this big 'player migration' - quite frankly, I do not see where this is suddenly coming from and in my opinion it is most unlikely that major players suddenly decide to pack their stuff and join a whole different regiment. People are acting as if the rule would state that one player from every regiment HAS TO change.
The rule is supposed to be a small opportunity for a handful of unfortunate individuals, who the admin team wants to enjoy the (big) rest of the league and I do not see anything wrong with that. Also, I do agree that this in the context of St0m leaving the 1er might appear a bit questionable for some people, but it really is just bad timing, since a few people before were asking for such a possibility already and with St0m a new case came in addition to them.
I would also oppose such a new rule if it would have been implented in the final stages of the tournament and/or would have allowed more than one player per regiment, but the rule as it is right now seems very harmless to me and does not damage the competition at all.[close]
In my eyes, if you want to play in the tournament, don't leave a reg part way through it. You either leave your reg before it starts or leave afterwards. Anyone who left their regiment during knows the outcome. That being said, if its a player who has not currently played for any regiment in the CL, I see no reason not to allow them to partake.
I absolutely agree and specially if you take into consideration how many people from DIFFERENT regiments are disagreeing with the rule you should reconsider this rule :)[close]
Also letting regimental leaders decide... really? What do you think would have happened if you'd have let the regimental leaders decide upon the cheating rule?
This rule is explicitly aimed at individuals and it surely is no regimental thing so there is no point at letting regiments voting on this.
@DragonKing, once again: it is not all about St0m, I know some people are trying as hard as they can to make it look like it is all about ONE person, but do you guys actually think Lindblom would have made a rule then??
fuck you guys think st0m's finna do, win us the league by himself?Don't think the problem is with St0m!
fuck you guys think st0m's finna do, win us the league by himself?Behave yourself. No reason to start insulting people and it wont help your point aswell.
It's an outdated rule, we had the same discussion in native and changed the rule all the same, even gave it a special little name (transfer week).
Ohh guess what: IT WORKED, AND EVERYONE WAS HAPPY ABOUT IT IN THE END!
And when feezy was banned after an addition rule that was added after the tournament's start, we all seemed to be fine with it.
fuck you guys think st0m's finna do, win us the league by himself?Don't think the problem is with St0m!
The problem i see is:
1. The inconsistency of the rules? Reg Leaders accepted the rules prior to this league.
And duuring the league some many rules are getting changed?
This really makes this rule book more like guidelines which are changable.
2. Every player should have known that prior to the league, that he might should decide carefully which regiment he should play for...
Because it was clearly said, your not allowed to play for another regiment then.
Behave yourself. No reason to start insulting people and it wont help your point aswell.?? where did I insult anyone ??
90% 1er but Reamao really doubts about the new rule, Dragon King complains about it, some people in the 8th too and thyrell says he agrees on this people...I have look..who agrees with the new rule...Oh only 4e members!90% 1er hereSpoilerSpoilerGod damn Erik rigging everything again!!11 ;_;SpoilerIf your arguments are gonna be things taken from years ago, and not even related to the topic, you might as well stick to posting obscure videos to fuel your sArCAsm
You're talking about an invite rule, this transfer window allows people a single switch of teams, but they actually have to be a part of the regiment they're going to play for, to meaningfully join said-regiment.
If there was anything that made membership "meaningful" it was the fact that once you made your decision prior to launching the league, it was definitive and set you up for the entirety of the competition. The rule you came up with erases the word "meaningful" from our dictionary, the sheer unprecedentedness of enabling players to participate in matches with more than one regiment during one and the same season of a league is simply the heaviest blow you can deliver to the sense of legitimacy that a membership in a regiment holds. There is good reason why it was never allowed before.
I'm particularly appalled because when it suited your interest in the past, you didn't hesitate to play the role of "legit memership" police and unleash your sanctimonious concern on rival regiments. Now you want St0m so you casually jump over to the opposite side of the barricade. But it's just too transparent. You already know very well that I and many others don't consider you a honourable player and I'm sure you're at peace with that thought, but what you did now doesn't even pretend to disguise itself for the sake of your image with the rest of community, you might just as well stand on a podium and shout: "I'll do anything for a slightest fortification of my regiment and its chances to win, be it skinning little kittens alive or sucking a dick!!!!!"
Genuinely curious to see if it pays off.[close]
Also Rastignac, the idea of having a transfer window was taken from the CCL, where a rule like that was also planned, but did not apply because of the abrupt end of the competition.
All of you guys should stop painting the devil on the wall and make the whole new rule bigger than it is (because that just might lead to it becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy); a few individuals seem to be really insecure about players suddenly leaving their regiment, so they try to foreshadow this big 'player migration' - quite frankly, I do not see where this is suddenly coming from and in my opinion it is most unlikely that major players suddenly decide to pack their stuff and join a whole different regiment. People are acting as if the rule would state that one player from every regiment HAS TO change.
The rule is supposed to be a small opportunity for a handful of unfortunate individuals, who the admin team wants to enjoy the (big) rest of the league and I do not see anything wrong with that. Also, I do agree that this in the context of St0m leaving the 1er might appear a bit questionable for some people, but it really is just bad timing, since a few people before were asking for such a possibility already and with St0m a new case came in addition to them.
I would also oppose such a new rule if it would have been implented in the final stages of the tournament and/or would have allowed more than one player per regiment, but the rule as it is right now seems very harmless to me and does not damage the competition at all.[close]
In my eyes, if you want to play in the tournament, don't leave a reg part way through it. You either leave your reg before it starts or leave afterwards. Anyone who left their regiment during knows the outcome. That being said, if its a player who has not currently played for any regiment in the CL, I see no reason not to allow them to partake.
I absolutely agree and specially if you take into consideration how many people from DIFFERENT regiments are disagreeing with the rule you should reconsider this rule :)[close]
Also letting regimental leaders decide... really? What do you think would have happened if you'd have let the regimental leaders decide upon the cheating rule?
This rule is explicitly aimed at individuals and it surely is no regimental thing so there is no point at letting regiments voting on this.
@DragonKing, once again: it is not all about St0m, I know some people are trying as hard as they can to make it look like it is all about ONE person, but do you guys actually think Lindblom would have made a rule then??
90% 1er but Reamao really doubts about the new rule, Dragon King complains about it, some people in the 8th too and thyrell says he agrees on this people...I have look..who agrees with the new rule...Oh only 4e members!I mean, one simple gaze over the last 4 pages and the adminteam, and you'll see it's not "only 4e members".
Is this really a question?Behave yourself. No reason to start insulting people and it wont help your point aswell.?? where did I insult anyone ??
Yes, please do quote where exactly I insulted a particular person.Is this really a question?Behave yourself. No reason to start insulting people and it wont help your point aswell.?? where did I insult anyone ??
"Fuck you guys"Yes, please do quote where exactly I insulted a particular person.Is this really a question?Behave yourself. No reason to start insulting people and it wont help your point aswell.?? where did I insult anyone ??
You mean just Lindblom90% 1er but Reamao really doubts about the new rule, Dragon King complains about it, some people in the 8th too and thyrell says he agrees on this people...I have look..who agrees with the new rule...Oh only 4e members!I mean, one simple gaze over the last 4 pages and the adminteam, and you'll see it's not "only 4e members".
right, 4e members and soartex ::)90% 1er but Reamao really doubts about the new rule, Dragon King complains about it, some people in the 8th too and thyrell says he agrees on this people...I have look..who agrees with the new rule...Oh only 4e members!I mean, one simple gaze over the last 4 pages and the adminteam, and you'll see it's not "only 4e members".
Maybe rule changes like this, which do affect the regiments directly should be discussed with them first and get their oppinion on it.I'm quite certain it was discussed within the entire admin team, which I do believe are representatives of the tournament and regiments signed up to it.
So we would have less drama in the forums.
right, 4e members and soartex ::)90% 1er but Reamao really doubts about the new rule, Dragon King complains about it, some people in the 8th too and thyrell says he agrees on this people...I have look..who agrees with the new rule...Oh only 4e members!I mean, one simple gaze over the last 4 pages and the adminteam, and you'll see it's not "only 4e members".
Ahh there's 2 already!You mean just Lindblom90% 1er but Reamao really doubts about the new rule, Dragon King complains about it, some people in the 8th too and thyrell says he agrees on this people...I have look..who agrees with the new rule...Oh only 4e members!I mean, one simple gaze over the last 4 pages and the adminteam, and you'll see it's not "only 4e members".
perhaps if you read the context it'd make more sence. It's english slang for "what the fuck are you guys".And you still have no reason to even write it that way. It is still offensive. Even if you "mean" it that way its pretty easy to think of it otherwise. Next time edit it instead of discussing.
I'm sorry, but that in no way is offensive. There's no insult to anyone, and there's slang in every language.perhaps if you read the context it'd make more sence. It's english slang for "what the fuck are you guys".And you still have no reason to even write it that way. It is still offensive. Even if you "mean" it that way its pretty easy to think of it otherwise. Next time edit it instead of discussing.
Sure because I see everybody else here starting there message with an "Fuck you guys". The point stands for you and everyone else. If you want to further discuss that feel free to add me. Thats all about this topic.I'm sorry, but that in no way is offensive. There's no insult to anyone, and there's slang in every language.perhaps if you read the context it'd make more sence. It's english slang for "what the fuck are you guys".And you still have no reason to even write it that way. It is still offensive. Even if you "mean" it that way its pretty easy to think of it otherwise. Next time edit it instead of discussing.
It's really not easy to interpret it any other way because of the context surrounding the message.
Don't think the problem is with St0m!
The problem i see is:
1. The inconsistency of the rules? Reg Leaders accepted the rules prior to this league.
And duuring the league some many rules are getting changed?
This really makes this rule book more like guidelines which are changable.
2. Every player should have known that prior to the league, that he might should decide carefully which regiment he should play for...
Because it was clearly said, your not allowed to play for another regiment then.
90% 1er but Reamao really...
(https://i.imgur.com/wO2aLUh.gif)
90% 1er but Reamao really...
Ooof
Let's turn the page, we all know the problem of this new rule and fortunately, it's not Ciiges, De14hannes or me who change regiments but only Stom ::)
imagine changing ur reg cause ur loosing matches to join a better reg and thinking ur rigth doing that C:The thing is I left 1er before the Refs found out that Feezy was "cheating". I didnt knew about that either. Soartex and even Bedo can tell u that I left before this shit happened. After one day I already got 4 offers from good regiments who are playing in this league. It was really tuff to decide. But I didnt felt great in that situation to leave 1er that quick in mid of the league. So I decided to join a regiment who wasnt asking about me. I didnt even knew about the whole "transfer-players-thing" before. So I was pretty sure that Im out of the CL for this season. But this let me hope to take part on it again. Im playing this game for almost 8 years and I played in the old 11e, Nr3, Nr6 and in 1er. 4 Top-Regiments, but I never won any tournament in my life. So my "dream" was winning in this game one single thing. I dont really care what... but atleast something. So maybe this will be my last chance.
90% 1er but Reamao really...
Ooof
Let's turn the page, we all know the problem of this new rule and fortunately, it's not Ciiges, De14hannes or me who change regiments but only Stom ::)
This is a rule about players, not regiments. Every regiment is given the possibility to "benefit" from it, as they obviously should, but the main point is: we give players a chance to move to better playing conditions if they don't feel good where they're currently playing and don't want to be forced to stay where they don't want to participate to the league. You are entirely in your right to disagree, but I thought this clarification was needed.As I mentioned previously, this rule was added to native at around 2016, and has been there eversince. Same goes for mercs in 2017.
So my "dream" was winning in this game one single thing. I dont really care what... but atleast something. So maybe this will be my last chance.
of course I want to win the SNC too :P but its more like a worldcup. It will make me more happier. Also I said "Its MAYBE my last chance to win something" :)))So my "dream" was winning in this game one single thing. I dont really care what... but atleast something. So maybe this will be my last chance.
-10 morale for German SNC Team
imagine changing ur reg cause ur loosing matches to join a better reg and thinking ur rigth doing that C:The thing is I left 1er before the Refs found out that Feezy was "cheating". I didnt knew about that either. Soartex and even Bedo can tell u that I left before this shit happened. After one day I already got 4 offers from good regiments who are playing in this league. It was really tuff to decide. But I didnt felt great in that situation to leave 1er that quick in mid of the league. So I decided to join a regiment who wasnt asking about me. I didnt even knew about the whole "transfer-players-thing" before. So I was pretty sure that Im out of the CL for this season. But this let me hope to take part on it again. Im playing this game for almost 8 years and I played in the old 11e, Nr3, Nr6 and in 1er. 4 Top-Regiments, but I never won any tournament in my life. So my "dream" was winning in this game one single thing. I dont really care what... but atleast something. So maybe this will be my last chance.
I know the fact that 4e is/was always a regiment who won a lot of competitions. But I didnt joined them for that. I joined them because I know there are great guys in there, I feel free and good. Im still sad to left 1er, the reg was like a family. But things happened and I left them. Both sides are now happier (I hope so). It was very stressful in the past matches and I think it was a good decision to leave them. I still love the 1er, I was one of the first members in there. And it would be very funny to play against them in the league. Just let me still dreaming. I think I have no enemies between the regiments neither the 4e. It would be very greatful when u guys let me play for this very last league. I know everybody wants to win. But maybe the transferwindow will things change a lot.
Whatever is coming out... thank you! :)
dont blame my english, I had to write it fast. :P
Our men are running from the battlefield!So my "dream" was winning in this game one single thing. I dont really care what... but atleast something. So maybe this will be my last chance.
-10 morale for German SNC Team
(I'm secretly moving to 8th, don't tell Erik pls)
Im not surprised that cav is dead when looking at this threadIm not surprised that u're a annoying kid who always puts his dick into random things. There are many people who doesnt likes u and I dont even wonder about that
?? where did I insult anyone ??Is this really a question?
As I said, I'm only looking at the facts and for the moment this rule has only been used for one player: St0m. And I doubt it will be used for others. (but I could be wrong)
You left after we heard about Feezy thing but I couldn’t say if you were aware of it before doing so
I spoked with someone about my feelings on that day. When I was writing the text for u, I heard that feezy "cheated" in the last match. In that time all 3 points were given to 1er. One or two days past when the 1er lost the points. I really want that Feezy gets unbanned. I dont know if its possible to do this. I only can hope.You left after we heard about Feezy thing but I couldn’t say if you were aware of it before doing so
Absolutely correct. You even mentioned in your message that it is unlucky FeezY lost us some points so how can you actually lie in front of all the people on fse ?
And u Saphyro u were with me, soartex and bedo in the ts before. When I ragequitted the ts, everybody knew what I was going to do. I spoke with bedo before that Im not happy anymore in 1er.He knew that a long time before u guys knew it.I spoked with someone about my feelings on that day. When I was writing the text for u, I heard that feezy "cheated" in the last match. In that time all 3 points were given to 1er. One or two days past when the 1er lost the points. I really want that Feezy gets unbanned. I dont know if its possible to do this. I only can hope.You left after we heard about Feezy thing but I couldn’t say if you were aware of it before doing so
Absolutely correct. You even mentioned in your message that it is unlucky FeezY lost us some points so how can you actually lie in front of all the people on fse ?
I have to say that this rule change leaves a bad taste in the mouth. Were it an original rule for the tournament, then fine. The way that things have panned out however, whilst it does appear that the rule technically applies to all participants, it is primarily a boost to 4e. The rule change is so specific that it doesn't really feel fully transparent. 4e happen to be in a position to stand to gain one experienced player and then just like that, there is a transfer window of exactly one player per regiment? Too convenient. Whether or not there was the 'idea' of a window beforehands, the rapid materialisation of it once it is beneficial to one party just seems odd. I hold St0m and the 4e in high regards, but personally this rule does not feel agreeable, for whatever little my opinion in worth.
And u Saphyro u were with me, soartex and bedo in the ts before. When I ragequitted the ts, everybody knew what I was going to do. I spoke with bedo before that Im not happy anymore in 1er.He knew that a long time before u guys knew it.I spoked with someone about my feelings on that day. When I was writing the text for u, I heard that feezy "cheated" in the last match. In that time all 3 points were given to 1er. One or two days past when the 1er lost the points. I really want that Feezy gets unbanned. I dont know if its possible to do this. I only can hope.You left after we heard about Feezy thing but I couldn’t say if you were aware of it before doing so
Absolutely correct. You even mentioned in your message that it is unlucky FeezY lost us some points so how can you actually lie in front of all the people on fse ?
Im not surprised that cav is dead when looking at this thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEKB7pi1mbc
Rastignac right nowSpoilerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEKB7pi1mbc[close]
And u Saphyro u were with me, soartex and bedo in the ts before. When I ragequitted the ts, everybody knew what I was going to do. I spoke with bedo before that Im not happy anymore in 1er.He knew that a long time before u guys knew it.I spoked with someone about my feelings on that day. When I was writing the text for u, I heard that feezy "cheated" in the last match. In that time all 3 points were given to 1er. One or two days past when the 1er lost the points. I really want that Feezy gets unbanned. I dont know if its possible to do this. I only can hope.You left after we heard about Feezy thing but I couldn’t say if you were aware of it before doing so
Absolutely correct. You even mentioned in your message that it is unlucky FeezY lost us some points so how can you actually lie in front of all the people on fse ?
sadly no :/And u Saphyro u were with me, soartex and bedo in the ts before. When I ragequitted the ts, everybody knew what I was going to do. I spoke with bedo before that Im not happy anymore in 1er.He knew that a long time before u guys knew it.I spoked with someone about my feelings on that day. When I was writing the text for u, I heard that feezy "cheated" in the last match. In that time all 3 points were given to 1er. One or two days past when the 1er lost the points. I really want that Feezy gets unbanned. I dont know if its possible to do this. I only can hope.You left after we heard about Feezy thing but I couldn’t say if you were aware of it before doing so
Absolutely correct. You even mentioned in your message that it is unlucky FeezY lost us some points so how can you actually lie in front of all the people on fse ?
I wont comment on this cuz I dont want to start a useless discussion about values neither do the people here need to read this, you hopefully know my opinion about you :)
The thing is I was struggling a long time to leave the 1er. Dokletian knows it and I talked about it with him in the past. I talked to you too but the things werent getting better with it. Maybe I need some distance to something what I dont know.I won't enter into details for that one, as it's not the right place to do it, but I will just correct something. Your departure was a (bad) surprise for all of us, that is still not comprehensible. You are going through a hard time, you and I know it, but I would have never suspected you to leave us possibly at the worst moment possible, when we needed motivation and morale back after what happened to us on week 2. It's not respectful for me, the regiment, and for your work in the 1er to leave the regiment on week 2 and joining an opponent some days later.SpoilerAnd u Saphyro u were with me, soartex and bedo in the ts before. When I ragequitted the ts, everybody knew what I was going to do. I spoke with bedo before that Im not happy anymore in 1er.He knew that a long time before u guys knew it.I spoked with someone about my feelings on that day. When I was writing the text for u, I heard that feezy "cheated" in the last match. In that time all 3 points were given to 1er. One or two days past when the 1er lost the points. I really want that Feezy gets unbanned. I dont know if its possible to do this. I only can hope.You left after we heard about Feezy thing but I couldn’t say if you were aware of it before doing so
Absolutely correct. You even mentioned in your message that it is unlucky FeezY lost us some points so how can you actually lie in front of all the people on fse ?[close]
I disagree with the rule change. It's the same situation we all faced last week. Everyone did agree on the rules at the start, and even if you find them bad or harsh, you still did agree to them. Even though we found it harsh, we had to submit ourselves to the cheating rule last week, and that's normal, as we did agree to play with that rule. It's the same case here. The player(s) who left their regiment (I can only name one for now, I am maybe wrong) knew that they couldn't participate anymore, they had to submit to that, and it surely made their choice harder.
I did agree with the course of actions the organizers used as I found it logical. But I can't understand that reasoning change, and I am against it. As soon as the organizers decided to stick to the original rules, even if they realized they were not appropriate afterwards (they in fact changed the cheating rule, but our punishment was the original one), they have to stick with all the other rules, whatever the cases may be. I have nothing against the players concerned, but it doesn't make sense at all.
Rastignac right nowSpoilerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEKB7pi1mbc[close]
Nah, you got this all wrong, it's not like I consider him an evil mastermind getting away with his smooth machinations. I mean, after all the times I witnessed him trying to be sly, I still have to see him succeed in securing some real profit from it. Ever seen the Olsen Gang? That's more like it.
I trust what you said, Tardet, but indeed, even if it was our glorious colonel Ecofrance (R.I.P) to put forth this rule, I would disagree with it just as much. And if it was truly the whole administration team that jointly came out with this rule (which I have hard time to believe, having seen certain people who are part of said team express themselves very negatively about it) it's just as puzzling and begs a question: why create such uncalled for controversy right after authority of the rules was damaged in the previous incident with Feezy? Now we find ourselves in another situation where the hosts either step back under criticism or enforce something that a good number of players find outrageous, me among them. Lose-lose situation that didn't have to take place.
And sorry St0m, I have no reason to be happy about you being out of the league, but I'd rather have that than complete collapse of standards that make these competitions feel more interesting and special than just casual 1v1s.
How many other players? As of right now the only name mentioned is you Stom. Tbh, if the rule sticks you gotta give 1er the points back. Everyone was saying the rules will be stuck to. But a week later, you guys finally decide to change the rules as it suits some players. A player joining a regiment after leaving another in a league has a much higher effect on an outcome then health on a bloody scoreboard. Either make the rules work across the board, or change them. You gotta pick one or the other.As Erik said 5 Players.
Whatever you have been having with the 1er, it would seem that you had your time to decide to leave or not before deciding to join on the tournament.So u want that I shoudl still play for the 1er in case that Im not motivated anymore and not happy to with them? They are great guys, but I feel uncomfortable in Events. So why should I still play for them? I only played the first two matches and u think I gonna join the 4e for winning this tournament? Nope. I already said my opinion why I joined them.
If you leave the regiment you are playing in because of a heavy discussion or whatever is the reason, and then you claim that you still need practice, then perhaps what you should have done it's just to finish the tournament in the team you initially signed in. You could have had a good experience out of it even, and if you didn't think you feel like you don't belong there.
I have nothing against you joining the 4e, but I don't see being allowed to play for another team when you have been playing for 2 weeks it's the correct way to proceed.
And if you were to choose another regiment I would see it as bad, it's not the fact of joining any especific regiment.
My point on this new rule it's just something unnecesary that put it planly, no one apart from the people benefiting from it would see as normal.
Whatever you have been having with the 1er, it would seem that you had your time to decide to leave or not before deciding to join on the tournament.So u want that I shoudl still play for the 1er in case that Im not motivated anymore and not happy to with them? They are great guys, but I feel uncomfortable in Events. So why should I still play for them? I only played the first two matches and u think I gonna join the 4e for winning this tournament? Nope. I already said my opinion why I joined them.
If you leave the regiment you are playing in because of a heavy discussion or whatever is the reason, and then you claim that you still need practice, then perhaps what you should have done it's just to finish the tournament in the team you initially signed in. You could have had a good experience out of it even, and if you didn't think you feel like you don't belong there.
I have nothing against you joining the 4e, but I don't see being allowed to play for another team when you have been playing for 2 weeks it's the correct way to proceed.
And if you were to choose another regiment I would see it as bad, it's not the fact of joining any especific regiment.
My point on this new rule it's just something unnecesary that put it planly, no one apart from the people benefiting from it would see as normal.
What would have been when I joined 8th? Then u wouldn't even blame against this new rule. U would said thats a nice idea to make matches more interesting. And maybe u will get some new guys too.
Now that this is over, what will be next weeks controversy? ???wait and see :p cav community will not disappoint!
Now that this is over, what will be next weeks controversy? ???wait and see :p cav community will not disappoint!
Now that this is over, what will be next weeks controversy? ???
Now that this is over, what will be next weeks controversy? ???
The children in Aless' basement
to the hater-caster:not sure if this is sarcasm
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gg to Nr.10, good luck in the future competition
to the hater-caster:
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gg to Nr.10, good luck in the future competition
cringe
nice behaviour:C(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1621817227803633327/C8421F99A4D03FF14E9F732DDC56BEB35B5FC87E/)[close]
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Honestly a little sad that some players can't type gg after a close game, but there are clearly still sore losers in the community in 2020
still believe a 3h+ match for a non-professional game is not healthy for competitiveness and for a human beings wellfare!
I'm so glad I wasn't the referee for it
I'm so glad I wasn't the referee for itwanna ref Nr4 vs CB?
still believe a 3h+ match for a non-professional game is not healthy for competitiveness and for a human beings wellfare!
After this match I would like to add something.I mean i played heavy and hussar and i can tell you that those matches are more about patience than skill and hussars vs heavies always have been a long match no matter who played. Therefore you cant blame a hussar for delaying (i understand if it keeps running without being close to any enemy and just doing it to be annoying) since it can easily get 1 hit by a heavy and that barely happens the other way around.
I don't see any rules in tournament for avoiding combat, delaying etc. and there's no end effect due to timeout of the round. I ask admins to take it into account and possibly fix it or add the rules assiociated with this.
During the match, there were situations in which the hussars didn't even attempt to attack. Combining it with a lot of players from both sides (what is disadvantage for cuirassiers) resulted that hussars vs heavies matches are much longer than ever. And about 15+ rule, it is definitely not easy to keep the minimum number players around 11pm after more than 3 hours of playing, when most people have to get up early and go to school or work the next day.
I think that kind of matches that hardly anyone enjoy and force people to make private sacrifices are not worth the tournament unless you are 100% pro gamers or tryhards.
After this match I would like to add something.I mean i played heavy and hussar and i can tell you that those matches are more about patience than skill and hussars vs heavies always have been a long match no matter who played. Therefore you cant blame a hussar for delaying (i understand if it keeps running without being close to any enemy and just doing it to be annoying) since it can easily get 1 hit by a heavy and that barely happens the other way around.
I don't see any rules in tournament for avoiding combat, delaying etc. and there's no end effect due to timeout of the round. I ask admins to take it into account and possibly fix it or add the rules assiociated with this.
During the match, there were situations in which the hussars didn't even attempt to attack. Combining it with a lot of players from both sides (what is disadvantage for cuirassiers) resulted that hussars vs heavies matches are much longer than ever. And about 15+ rule, it is definitely not easy to keep the minimum number players around 11pm after more than 3 hours of playing, when most people have to get up early and go to school or work the next day.
I think that kind of matches that hardly anyone enjoy and force people to make private sacrifices are not worth the tournament unless you are 100% pro gamers or tryhards.
I mean if hussars want to win, they need to "delay". Not every match can last 1 hour.
After this match I would like to add something.What are you on about?
I don't see any rules in tournament for avoiding combat, delaying etc. and there's no end effect due to timeout of the round. I ask admins to take it into account and possibly fix it or add the rules assiociated with this.
During the match, there were situations in which the hussars didn't even attempt to attack. Combining it with a lot of players from both sides (what is disadvantage for cuirassiers) resulted that hussars vs heavies matches are much longer than ever. And about 15+ rule, it is definitely not easy to keep the minimum number players around 11pm after more than 3 hours of playing, when most people have to get up early and go to school or work the next day.
I think that kind of matches that hardly anyone enjoy and force people to make private sacrifices are not worth the tournament unless you are 100% pro gamers or tryhards.
Anyway, gg 4e there were some close rounds but it's well deserved win. Good luck in the rest of competition.
Combining it with a lot of players from both sides (what is disadvantage for cuirassiers)
exactly this.Combining it with a lot of players from both sides (what is disadvantage for cuirassiers)
Are you sure? Please explain why the cuirassiers have the disadvantage when there are many guys on the battlefield. My experience always told me that it's harder to break the cuirassier formation when there are more cuirassiers.
(https://i.imgur.com/Fwe7hCo.jpg)bigbrain time
exactly this.Combining it with a lot of players from both sides (what is disadvantage for cuirassiers)
Are you sure? Please explain why the cuirassiers have the disadvantage when there are many guys on the battlefield. My experience always told me that it's harder to break the cuirassier formation when there are more cuirassiers.
After this match I would like to add something.
I don't see any rules in tournament for avoiding combat, delaying etc. and there's no end effect due to timeout of the round. I ask admins to take it into account and possibly fix it or add the rules assiociated with this.
During the match, there were situations in which the hussars didn't even attempt to attack. Combining it with a lot of players from both sides (what is disadvantage for cuirassiers) resulted that hussars vs heavies matches are much longer than ever. And about 15+ rule, it is definitely not easy to keep the minimum number players around 11pm after more than 3 hours of playing, when most people have to get up early and go to school or work the next day.
I think that kind of matches that hardly anyone enjoy and force people to make private sacrifices are not worth the tournament unless you are 100% pro gamers or tryhards.
Anyway, gg 4e there were some close rounds but it's well deserved win. Good luck in the rest of competition.
Harford being a friendly player like he normally does.After this match I would like to add something.
I don't see any rules in tournament for avoiding combat, delaying etc. and there's no end effect due to timeout of the round. I ask admins to take it into account and possibly fix it or add the rules assiociated with this.
During the match, there were situations in which the hussars didn't even attempt to attack. Combining it with a lot of players from both sides (what is disadvantage for cuirassiers) resulted that hussars vs heavies matches are much longer than ever. And about 15+ rule, it is definitely not easy to keep the minimum number players around 11pm after more than 3 hours of playing, when most people have to get up early and go to school or work the next day.
I think that kind of matches that hardly anyone enjoy and force people to make private sacrifices are not worth the tournament unless you are 100% pro gamers or tryhards.
Anyway, gg 4e there were some close rounds but it's well deserved win. Good luck in the rest of competition.
stfu already you *Snip*
most of the time it litteraly takes 3 swings to kill a heavy, 2 to kill his horse, while you get OS as a hussar (player or horse if not both), means you gotta play extra careful while you guys can still play stupidly and not get punished until the third time
you be like "HeaviEs NoT OP HUh LeArN thE GaMe AlrAEDy"
just send them back to tropical paradise so they think they're actually decent
idiot
anyway sorry for the salt, good luck to everyone and blabla (except heavies dont@me)
thats why i wrote my thing in the first place, baiting tardet in order to get his attention, cant believe i waited so long, i nearly gave upgotta love Harford
now i shall propose tardet with a ring
will you marry me
Incredible match 2Lr.
Your way of playing really surprised us, I wish you really good luck with the rest of your encounters, but this one was tough and very enjoyable.
Incredible match 2Lr.aye, ggs to you, thank you
Your way of playing really surprised us, I wish you really good luck with the rest of your encounters, but this one was tough and very enjoyable.
"Mal gewinnt das 2Lr, mal verlieren die anderen"-Unbekannter Verfasser
please tell me someone recorded that match
"Mal gewinnt das 2Lr, mal verlieren die anderen"-Unbekannter Verfasser
please tell me someone recorded that matchdont worry 2Lr allways does
who did, and when can I watch it >:(please tell me someone recorded that matchdont worry 2Lr allways does
who did, and when can I watch it >:(please tell me someone recorded that matchdont worry 2Lr allways does
Nr4 vs CB
I am NOT available as ref
I am NOT available as ref
Txm IS available as ref
Txm IS available as ref
I can take it since i no longer value my life or health.
I can take it since i no longer value my life or health.should we send a rescue squad already?
I can take it since i no longer value my life or health.can I hug you?
NoI can take it since i no longer value my life or health.can I hug you?
i think a psyco squad would be better.I can take it since i no longer value my life or health.should we send a rescue squad already?
(https://i.imgur.com/DNMJ24m.png);D ;D
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We shall not forget those who gave their lives for our community
he was not the smartest nor the wisest
but Termito was a brave and as a brave he should be remembered
(https://estaticos.muyinteresante.es/uploads/images/gallery/574eebb35cafe8e390fd8837/panda-rojo.jpg)We shall not forget those who gave their lives for our community
he was not the smartest nor the wisest
but Termito was a brave and as a brave he should be remembered
Look at the rabbits termito
Make Termito a big statue in the middle of the map for best referee so far. (You could replace it for one of the trees)That would be a fine addition to MajorMark's bucketlist of ways to die, run into a statue.
Big respect for Termito tho
no u
shithouse moves by the 4eGetting dokles horse with strg j be like:
Ciiges dies to nightwing then 4e claim the specs are lagging the server. Coincidence???
Getting dokles horse with strg j be like:
(https://imgur.com/iD9m19X.jpg)
Anyways, GG wp!
Why Ctrl J when you can just press q bro wtfshithouse moves by the 4eGetting dokles horse with strg j be like:
Ciiges dies to nightwing then 4e claim the specs are lagging the server. Coincidence???
(https://imgur.com/iD9m19X.jpg)
Anyways, GG wp!
GG 2Lr, was definitely a hard one !Was a great match, way harder than the score suggests. Some real tense moments.
Getting Nightwing with ctrl j be like:
(https://imgur.com/iD9m19X.jpg)
Anyways, GG wp!
Like I played 3 cav matches in 2020 and all 3 were last week, why should I download something for it. Also as I know myself, I would probably press q every 2 min in the match accidental xdWhy Ctrl J when you can just press q bro wtfshithouse moves by the 4eGetting dokles horse with strg j be like:
Ciiges dies to nightwing then 4e claim the specs are lagging the server. Coincidence???
(https://imgur.com/iD9m19X.jpg)
Anyways, GG wp!
Pls let me have my 3 sec proud moment ok :(Getting Nightwing with ctrl j be like:
(https://imgur.com/iD9m19X.jpg)
Anyways, GG wp!
Can we check Cage every match please. Im sure he is cheating.
that 4 hour match is the reason why inf is superior
that 4 hour match is the reason why inf is superior(https://media.tenor.com/images/c3bbc58650d78ef51a32b519e92c05f2/tenor.gif)
that 4 hour match is the reason why inf is superior
that 4 hour match is the reason why inf is superior
That 4 hour match is the reason we only need hussars.
that 4 hour match is the reason why inf is superior
That 4 hour match is the reason we only need hussars.
I want lancersShh be quiet
I want lancers
This discussion thread has been insufferably dull since the last drama, can somebody provoke or do something controversial soon so we can get the ball rolling again.You are on probation so watch your every step. >:(
Imagine being in the 8th LOL
this post was made by the 4e gang
This discussion thread has been insufferably dull since the last drama, can somebody provoke or do something controversial soon so we can get the ball rolling again.You are on probation so watch your every step. >:(
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i cant believe ERIK what am i reading?
this IS big cringe
A now wait till i get my MASSIVE dogs on you >:( >:(
CROOK watch out
(secret message inside dont tell him)
farted
i cant believe ERIK what am i reading?
this IS big cringe
A now wait till i get my MASSIVE dogs on you >:( >:(
CROOK watch out
(secret message inside dont tell him)
Imagine being in the 8th LOL
this post was made by the 4e gang
But seriously why don't we just ban heavy cav and force those dogshit players to either hold their own cups or start playing a unit that isnt a legit dogclass Hur Dur u no punished for ur doglvl play cus ur dog heavy cav so now the match is 4:20 H long get it?? Its the weed number. Because ud have to be high as fuck to even think that this is fun or skill.are you ok?
But seriously why don't we just ban heavy cav and force those dogshit players to either hold their own cups or start playing a unit that isnt a legit dogclass Hur Dur u no punished for ur doglvl play cus ur dog heavy cav so now the match is 4:20 H long get it?? Its the weed number. Because ud have to be high as fuck to even think that this is fun or skill.Felix, sammel mal deine Kids wieder ein
But seriously why don't we just ban heavy cav and force those dogshit players to either hold their own cups or start playing a unit that isnt a legit dogclass Hur Dur u no punished for ur doglvl play cus ur dog heavy cav so now the match is 4:20 H long get it?? Its the weed number. Because ud have to be high as fuck to even think that this is fun or skill.This could be a serious post but it's actually funny
But seriously why don't we just ban heavy cav and force those dogshit players to either hold their own cups or start playing a unit that isnt a legit dogclass Hur Dur u no punished for ur doglvl play cus ur dog heavy cav so now the match is 4:20 H long get it?? Its the weed number. Because ud have to be high as fuck to even think that this is fun or skill.Felix, sammel mal deine Kids wieder ein
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Kannst dich nicht mal selbst zügeln nglBut seriously why don't we just ban heavy cav and force those dogshit players to either hold their own cups or start playing a unit that isnt a legit dogclass Hur Dur u no punished for ur doglvl play cus ur dog heavy cav so now the match is 4:20 H long get it?? Its the weed number. Because ud have to be high as fuck to even think that this is fun or skill.Felix, sammel mal deine Kids wieder ein
(https://cdn.frankerfacez.com/emoticon/361557/4)
Was laberst du, safe ich kann Iniskill zügeln nh
Was this actually the longest Match of NW (or even full M&B) History or does anybody know a competitive Match which took longer?
But seriously why don't we just ban heavy cav and force those dogshit players to either hold their own cups or start playing a unit that isnt a legit dogclass Hur Dur u no punished for ur doglvl play cus ur dog heavy cav so now the match is 4:20 H long get it?? Its the weed number. Because ud have to be high as fuck to even think that this is fun or skill.This could be a serious post but it's actually funny
Kannst dich nicht mal selbst zügeln nglBut seriously why don't we just ban heavy cav and force those dogshit players to either hold their own cups or start playing a unit that isnt a legit dogclass Hur Dur u no punished for ur doglvl play cus ur dog heavy cav so now the match is 4:20 H long get it?? Its the weed number. Because ud have to be high as fuck to even think that this is fun or skill.Felix, sammel mal deine Kids wieder ein
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Was laberst du, safe ich kann Iniskill zügeln nh
Kannst dich nicht mal selbst zügeln ngl
Sprech deutsch oder sei ruhig Quinn. Bei der nächsten Provokation setzt es was.
You want a warning again?Kannst dich nicht mal selbst zügeln nglSprech deutsch oder sei ruhig Quinn. Bei der nächsten Provokation setzt es was.
speaking from personal experience this week tho, the polish guys are just as mind numbing to play against when they play hussars, so banning heavies wouldn't help lolFirst post this month you didn't mention my name, am I starting to bore you?
speaking from personal experience this week tho, the polish guys are just as mind numbing to play against when they play hussars, so banning heavies wouldn't help lol
Took them one loss to change their minds and return to their utterly fat steedsone?, they lost like 3 matches in a row
Ah, thought this was their first training match as a nation, still rather sad they pick one class and if they can't play it just swap to a broken class cuz they can't be bothered to spend time in this game apart from creating matches which last an average 3.5 hoursTook them one loss to change their minds and return to their utterly fat steedsone?, they lost like 3 matches in a row
That has nothing to do with it. The Polish team was simply divided in two parts. The 8th faced only half of the Polish national team, which is made up mostly of hussars. It is obvious that they wanted to test a composition of hussars in this way.
Now that the Polish nation is reunited and the players who play cuirassiers (from 14pk) are getting together and their selection is now composed mainly of cuirassiers, they will logically play cuirassier and no one doubts that, now that Poland is reunited, this nation is going to be a formidable one. So don't get carried away by the cuirassiers and stop talking idiots things about them. It is a very nice class to play and has a long tradition in this community. This will continue until the end of this game and the switch to BL.
That has nothing to do with it. The Polish team was simply divided in two parts. The 8th faced only half of the Polish national team, which is made up mostly of hussars. It is obvious that they wanted to test a composition of hussars in this way.
Now that the Polish nation is reunited and the players who play cuirassiers (from 14pk) are getting together and their selection is now composed mainly of cuirassiers, they will logically play cuirassier and no one doubts that, now that Poland is reunited, this nation is going to be a formidable one. So don't get carried away by the cuirassiers and stop talking idiots things about them. It is a very nice class to play and has a long tradition in this community. This will continue until the end of this game and the switch to BL.
hussar cups are the future.
Is there any way this is not discussed in here?Good luck with that.
Regardless, I'm glad the polish players have come to an agreement so they can get the best representation for their nation.Same here. Let's face it, I'd rather go against a competitive polish team even if it means facing them as heavies and committing to a long-ass match rather than stomp them while they play a class half the team isn't super familiar with.
Regardless, I'm glad the polish players have come to an agreement so they can get the best representation for their nation.Same here. Let's face it, I'd rather go against a competitive polish team even if it means facing them as heavies and committing to a long-ass match rather than stomp them while they play a class half the team isn't super familiar with.
That has nothing to do with it. The Polish team was simply divided in two parts. The 8th faced only half of the Polish national team, which is made up mostly of hussars. It is obvious that they wanted to test a composition of hussars in this way.
Now that the Polish nation is reunited and the players who play cuirassiers (from 14pk) are getting together and their selection is now composed mainly of cuirassiers, they will logically play cuirassier and no one doubts that, now that Poland is reunited, this nation is going to be a formidable one. So don't get carried away by the cuirassiers and stop talking idiots things about them. It is a very nice class to play and has a long tradition in this community. This will continue until the end of this game and the switch to BL.
Im only gonna say this; there are no broken classes on the game, they all have their advantages and disadvantages. If you say heavy is a broken class, it is because you dont know how to play against them. (some people already showed this point in the "league / tournament") and tbh, i dont really care if Poland plays hussar or heavy.
Im only gonna say this; there are no broken classes on the game, they all have their advantages and disadvantages. If you say heavy is a broken class, it is because you dont know how to play against them. (some people already showed this point in the "league / tournament") and tbh, i dont really care if Poland plays hussar or heavy.
Im only gonna say this; there are no broken classes on the game, they all have their advantages and disadvantages. If you say heavy is a broken class, it is because you dont know how to play against them. (some people already showed this point in the "league / tournament") and tbh, i dont really care if Poland plays hussar or heavy.
No one claimed heavies are broken, that's another discussion.
This is a discussion of heavies being unhealthy in the game, because their current meta is making matches take 3 hours+ which just ruins the fun for everyone involved.
Againg talking about unidentified "heavies" and generalizing. "Heavies" are the new "jews" and "freemasons". Who are they exactly, nobody knows.This.
Kindly acknowledge that there are different players, teams and regiments within that group and many of them never did anything to deserve reputation for delaying and being passive, unlike some players who play exclusively hussars. Nobody had to complain about 3-4h matches in last CNC, when Poland was participating as cuirassiers, just like they are supposed to do now (check out the recordings if you can't take my word for it). Some of the worst aspects of heavy playstyle were exaggerated recently by the confused amateurs from CB, true, but stop acting like that's all there ever was to it. This twisted way of thinking leads you to lash out on a team that doesn't even exist yet, if that is not ridiculous then I don't know what is. Once the team is out there, feel free to hate and criticise it for whatever reason you might find, but address it on it's own merit and not as a part of the punching bag that the vague word "heavies" has been turned into.
Againg talking about unidentified "heavies" and generalizing. "Heavies" are the new "jews" and "freemasons". Who are they exactly, nobody knows.This.
Kindly acknowledge that there are different players, teams and regiments within that group and many of them never did anything to deserve reputation for delaying and being passive, unlike some players who play exclusively hussars. Nobody had to complain about 3-4h matches in last CNC, when Poland was participating as cuirassiers, just like they are supposed to do now (check out the recordings if you can't take my word for it). Some of the worst aspects of heavy playstyle were exaggerated recently by the confused amateurs from CB, true, but stop acting like that's all there ever was to it. This twisted way of thinking leads you to lash out on a team that doesn't even exist yet, if that is not ridiculous then I don't know what is. Once the team is out there, feel free to hate and criticise it for whatever reason you might find, but address it on it's own merit and not as a part of the punching bag that the vague word "heavies" has been turned into.
Neither hussars, nor heavies have to be entirely passive while playing against each other. They are just forced to if no alternative is given.
It wasnt treehugging, no their problem if you dont know how to play "good" against heavies.
Im only gonna say this; there are no broken classes on the game, they all have their advantages and disadvantages. If you say heavy is a broken class, it is because you dont know how to play against them. (some people already showed this point in the "league / tournament") and tbh, i dont really care if Poland plays hussar or heavy.
No one claimed heavies are broken, that's another discussion.
This is a discussion of heavies being unhealthy in the game, because their current meta is making matches take 3 hours+ which just ruins the fun for everyone involved.
It wasnt treehugging, no their problem if you dont know how to play "good" against heavies.
Well so circling around the tree is a good tactic? Well we obv know how to play against heavies. But riding next to a tree is not really skillful lmao
Anyways gg and thanks for the game 5to wish you good luck for the future matches
Talk about skill to this playersIt wasnt treehugging, no their problem if you dont know how to play "good" against heavies.
Well so circling around the tree is a good tactic? Well we obv know how to play against heavies. But riding next to a tree is not really skillful lmao
Anyways gg and thanks for the game 5to wish you good luck for the future matches
I don't see any of the other curassier regiments complaining in the past about lights delaying games for ages
not even a single infantry was close to any of the tree for the entirety of the match, come on dude, you can do better than that.
Why are there even trees on this map?i complained about it before any match was played.
I don't see any of the other curassier regiments complaining in the past about lights delaying games for agesnot even a single infantry was close to any of the tree for the entirety of the match, come on dude, you can do better than that.
a message on 33 pages? Wait, are you kidding me?
Treehugging was called one time by the Referee and even after that you kept switching horses directly at the tree.
Btw why so salty? And why talking about "Meta"? If we played according to the Meta, it would have been a 4h Match like last week. THAT was Meta.
a message on 33 pages? Wait, are you kidding us? Moreover it is not a complaint but a suggestion and a "gg" for the other team.
During the match, there were situations in which the hussars didn't even attempt to attack.
the 1erHuss crushed you.
I don't see any of the other curassier regiments complaining in the past about lights delaying games for ages
Of course they did. Read page 23 for example.not even a single infantry was close to any of the tree for the entirety of the match, come on dude, you can do better than that.
Treehugging was called one time by the Referee and even after that you kept switching horses directly at the tree.
Btw why so salty? And why talking about "Meta"? If we played according to the Meta, it would have been a 4h Match like last week. THAT was Meta.
a message on 33 pages? Wait, are you kidding us? Moreover it is not a complaint but a suggestion and a "gg" for the other team.During the match, there were situations in which the hussars didn't even attempt to attack.
I was referring to this.the 1erHuss crushed you.
4-6 means we got crushed? So 5to got crushed too because they lost 4-6? ::)
a message on 33 pages? Wait, are you kidding us? Moreover it is not a complaint but a suggestion and a "gg" for the other team.During the match, there were situations in which the hussars didn't even attempt to attack.
I was referring to this.the 1erHuss crushed you.
4-6 means we got crushed? So 5to got crushed too because they lost 4-6? ::)
The 5to was fighting at 10 against 12. The 1er Huss fought in perfect balance. So I deduce that with perfect balance, the 5to won or drew.
For the rest, I rather agree with you @SirAlecks: finding a goal or a time limit is crucial for competitive events. This is something that could unblock some very boring situations.
They had less players for 3 rounds, nontheless it is in the rules that they need to balance to 12 players if a tier 2 meets a tier 1 in a match. If they cannot get/maintain enough members it ain't our fault
Also while we did play quite terrible, we saw this match as an opportunity to allow everyone of the Nr4 to play and since we had a 20 man attendance we swapped a lot, if we had played like we do against the top regiments we would've had 2-3 more rounds at least.
Although I found the match a pain in the ass (not ment to be toxic), gg's
And as far as I remember you completely stopped switching "the less experienced" players completely when we brought it back to 3-3.
They had less players for 3 rounds, nontheless it is in the rules that they need to balance to 12 players if a tier 2 meets a tier 1 in a match. If they cannot get/maintain enough members it ain't our fault
Also while we did play quite terrible, we saw this match as an opportunity to allow everyone of the Nr4 to play and since we had a 20 man attendance we swapped a lot, if we had played like we do against the top regiments we would've had 2-3 more rounds at least.
Although I found the match a pain in the ass (not ment to be toxic), gg's
Bro, why do some of y'all NW players feel the need to cap so much man. We were 10v12 since the 2-1 round finish all the way till 5-4, accounting for both dc's and people actually having to leave.
And as far as I remember you completely stopped switching "the less experienced" players completely when we brought it back to 3-3. Why is it such an issue that it was a close game regardless man? I've had matches were I've lost against far less experienced teams on Native and I don't feel the need to go making up excuses on the forums jeez.
We will go -10 / 0
I guess to follow the pattern accurately it must be 13 / -3.ahh TxM and Stannis... The well-known weak links
Erik literally planting the hp mods on your players as we speak.
I guess to follow the pattern accurately it must be 13 / -3.
Erik literally planting the hp mods on your players as we speak.
GG to all the 1er members we faced tonight. Really sorry you couldn't play this match in good conditions, hopefully we can meet again soon after the league to have a proper one.I guess to follow the pattern accurately it must be 13 / -3.
Erik literally planting the hp mods on your players as we speak.
(https://i.imgur.com/vHl1Bf4.jpg)
"now let's see this """TxM""" guy's face next time he's asked to take a screenshot"
8th is gonna become a heavy team
8th have a foolproof tactic for the 4e match, ima order uber eats to ciiges' houseour only weakness ...
8th have a foolproof tactic for the 4e match, ima order uber eats to ciiges' houseGet me a lot of food to prevent me from singlehandedly winning the match, smart.
Whats your favorite food?8th have a foolproof tactic for the 4e match, ima order uber eats to ciiges' houseGet me a lot of food to prevent me from singlehandedly winning the match, smart.
Sushi, Pizza, Burgers, anything; I'm on a budget.Whats your favorite food?8th have a foolproof tactic for the 4e match, ima order uber eats to ciiges' houseGet me a lot of food to prevent me from singlehandedly winning the match, smart.
Im not so Ill make sure to get you all you want when its time for the match ;) ;DSushi, Pizza, Burgers, anything; I'm on a budget.Whats your favorite food?8th have a foolproof tactic for the 4e match, ima order uber eats to ciiges' houseGet me a lot of food to prevent me from singlehandedly winning the match, smart.
me thinking i'm an important 4e member, realizing no food is being delivered at my door on 8th match dayWe could change that....
(https://i.imgur.com/r8U3oLD.jpg)
We could change that....
- two Nr 9's, a Nr 9 large, a Nr 6 with extra dip, a Nr 7, two Nr 45 , one with cheese, and a large soda || Cluckin-Bell_Voland || Cluckin-Bell_Quinn || 𝓥𝖔𝖑𝖆𝖓𝖉 (https://steamcommunity.com/id/rommstar/) | [KGL] Quinn ML (https://steamcommunity.com/id/quinn26/)
(https://media.tenor.com/images/adb4c3dfc1552fb064d3d300959b4c56/tenor.gif)I guess to follow the pattern accurately it must be 13 / -3.ahh TxM and Stannis... The well-known weak links
Erik literally planting the hp mods on your players as we speak.
GG to all the 1er members we faced tonight. Really sorry you couldn't play this match in good conditions, hopefully we can meet again soon after the league to have a proper one.I guess to follow the pattern accurately it must be 13 / -3.
Erik literally planting the hp mods on your players as we speak.
(https://i.imgur.com/vHl1Bf4.jpg)
"now let's see this """TxM""" guy's face next time he's asked to take a screenshot"
Me and Stannis
This discussion thread has been insufferably dull since the last drama, can somebody provoke or do something controversial soon so we can get the ball rolling again.
Please consider not doing that.This discussion thread has been insufferably dull since the last drama, can somebody provoke or do something controversial soon so we can get the ball rolling again.
The fact that most of the native players have already won by rigging their way across the tournament already amuses me...
How fucking stupid is the moderation team for checking screenshots for cheats. Most of the players (including myself) have been using the health mod, plus autoblock the entire tournament lmfao.
Don't think anyone else is gonne admit to it, but I can name and prove atleast 3 others. Goodluck with the tourny.... losers...
Capitaine Erik le Rouge, more like Captain Birdseye since his tournaments are fishy af
This post was made by the 8th gang
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8th gang is hella cringe tbh
(https://i.gyazo.com/f7f4bf8c86bfe26e48737eb6ae995330.png)Bit of an overstatement lad.
i just wanted to post that photo, the rest is just banter.(https://i.gyazo.com/f7f4bf8c86bfe26e48737eb6ae995330.png)Bit of an overstatement lad.
Though some of the nr4 players completely shat the bed, others gave you a great fight and some close rounds
I got Ciiges a coupon for an all you can eat buffet. Check mate.Filthy lies
Don't give in to temptation Ciiges, you are stronger than that.I got Ciiges a coupon for an all you can eat buffet. Check mate.Filthy lies
I hope you enjoyed the league 8th, I truly do
cause you ain't liking what's coming for you this weekSpoilerhttps://youtu.be/UZa7Y65umxc[close]
The chubby one on the left is Ciiges after he ate all the banquetAfter eating up all the dismounteds*
8th vs 4eFelix and the Nr4 taking notes in the back.
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/852/769/fae)
(https://i.gyazo.com/f7f4bf8c86bfe26e48737eb6ae995330.png)Bit of an overstatement lad.
Though most of the nr4 players completely shat the bed, others gave you a great fight and some close rounds
8th vs 4eFelix and the Nr4 taking notes in the back.
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/852/769/fae)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeSQP7DwPxAFarted
guess what im eating
Though some of the nr4 players completely shat the bed
guess what im eatingmy a$$
Is using PEDs against the rules?
Is using PEDs against the rules?
Is using PEDs against the rules?
If you use PEDs to increase ur chance of winning an NW tournament, you've failed so hard in life it wouldn't be fair to punish the offender again ingame
Is using PEDs against the rules?
If you use PEDs to increase ur chance of winning an NW tournament, you've failed so hard in life it wouldn't be fair to punish the offender again ingame
4e vs 8th - the ultimate boomer vs. zoomer match
who'll prevail
4e vs 8th - the ultimate boomer vs. zoomer matchI have seen how Aless play Mercenaries
who'll prevail
4e vs 8th - the ultimate boomer vs. zoomer matchI have seen how Aless play Mercenaries
who'll prevail
we are not losing this.
Aless in a nutshell4e vs 8th - the ultimate boomer vs. zoomer matchI have seen how Aless play Mercenaries
who'll prevail
we are not losing this.
In mercs, he only tanks even with a fucking saddle horse
Why are you replying to a 2 old month post
My preparatiom is almost complete
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they won't know what hit emSpoilerhttps://youtu.be/zvq9r6R6QAY[close]
(https://i.gyazo.com/c80f1a07db4e92515137c93760238efd.png)Was nubi playing with u??
4e preparation for the CL final match be like: 'If you can't beat them, annex them'
Yes, it was a well kept secret but we have been practising in secret:"Very recently"(https://i.imgur.com/AbdmyVn.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/w718ltN.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/caTgSZp.png)[close]
Just a heads up, ill be streaming the entire match! So make sure to come and watch there instead of spec. That way we can all bully quack together in chat.
https://www.twitch.tv/sharkie8u
Actually go watch Sharkie's stream as we won't allow any spec.This
Was nubi playing with u??
Just a heads up, ill be streaming the entire match! So make sure to come and watch there instead of spec. That way we can all bully quack together in chat.
https://www.twitch.tv/sharkie8u
I can not be else but happy with the results, but only for regimental perspective.
My personal thoughts about this match are these:
What I have seen today is the culmination of many peoples wills and desires. From our perspective, to be able to finally defeat the 4e, the best cavalry regiment this module has ever witnessed, after many years and tryouts, it's nothing but something of a dream. And to finally achieved it in such massive, competitive, fun and emotional match it's definitely something to be remembered.
I would like to thank every 8th member for today's performance and the time they have dedicated attending and aiming on becoming better so we could fulfil such objective.
And for the 4e; thanks for being the most prestigious cavalry regiment because without you this game wouldn't be as fun as it is.
Buen juego!
Also, huge thanks to Lindblom for hosting this competition, the referees & to Sharkie for putting in so much effort into all these fun streams - I think I can speak for everyone when I'm saying that all of this is really appreciated and that the community can consider itself lucky to have people like you around!
Also, huge thanks to Lindblom for hosting this competition, the referees & to Sharkie for putting in so much effort into all these fun streams - I think I can speak for everyone when I'm saying that all of this is really appreciated and that the community can consider itself lucky to have people like you around!this and gg to the 8th, absolute pleasure to play against such skilled players
omg imagine losing to the 8th(https://cdn.betterttv.net/emote/5ea831f074046462f768097a/3x)
omg imagine losing to the 8th
omg imagine losing to the 8th
Congratulations on your victory 8th. You've been training about 5 to 6 days a week for the past year for this title, it would be a lie to say this title isn't deserved.
The final was an incredibly tense and awesome match to play in, I wish we pulled that last round back to go to overtime. Wouldn't have refused another 3 rounds of this quality.
You've had a great run and quite frankly so have we. Competitions need winners and you rightfully take this one, but I want to congratulate every single one of my players also, we've had an awesome season and had we been better tonight, it would have been a well deserved win too.
A huge thanks to Lindblom for the impeccable job he did hosting this Cavalry League season. It's been pleasant and very well-managed.Spoilerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G7HYqjBxgg&ab_channel=JuicyJoey[close]
A big "Thank you" to the Hosts of the CL and the Referees as well. The Nr4 really enjoyed this Event and had some great and funny moments.
Let's hope that the CL was a good impulse for the upcoming tournaments and Community activities. Back when the CL was announced in summer, most of the people believed that it would be a final competitive opportunity for the Cavalry of NW. But it turned out that many players got there hands back on the game and returned. In addition to that we have the revival of the CPPs and the upcoming SNC. And i know that there are some guys out there who have great ideas to ensure that the next months after that won't be boring.
So let's enjoy the renewed activity of our Community and set foot in the next chapter. :D
CL Titles: Quack 1 Sharkie 0. All that matters.A big "Thank you" to the Hosts of the CL and the Referees as well. The Nr4 really enjoyed this Event and had some great and funny moments.
Let's hope that the CL was a good impulse for the upcoming tournaments and Community activities. Back when the CL was announced in summer, most of the people believed that it would be a final competitive opportunity for the Cavalry of NW. But it turned out that many players got there hands back on the game and returned. In addition to that we have the revival of the CPPs and the upcoming SNC. And i know that there are some guys out there who have great ideas to ensure that the next months after that won't be boring.
So let's enjoy the renewed activity of our Community and set foot in the next chapter. :D
But more importantly.... Quack is bad.
(https://cdn.betterttv.net/emote/5c50edcb5e0cb51b417faf37/3x)A big "Thank you" to the Hosts of the CL and the Referees as well. The Nr4 really enjoyed this Event and had some great and funny moments.
Let's hope that the CL was a good impulse for the upcoming tournaments and Community activities. Back when the CL was announced in summer, most of the people believed that it would be a final competitive opportunity for the Cavalry of NW. But it turned out that many players got there hands back on the game and returned. In addition to that we have the revival of the CPPs and the upcoming SNC. And i know that there are some guys out there who have great ideas to ensure that the next months after that won't be boring.
So let's enjoy the renewed activity of our Community and set foot in the next chapter. :D
But more importantly.... Quack is bad.
But more importantly.... Quack is bad.