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Title: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: PapaBean on December 08, 2019, 07:58:53 pm
For me I have to say it was the mix of the comp scene and the amazing maps you would see at events.  As a mapmaker I know that maps are what kept the community coming back to the game at least for the casual side.

When it comes to the comp side, I think I enjoyed those years the most since that's when some of the largest turnouts for leagues ever happened. (at least for NA) On top of that, how skilled players were was pretty even across the board.  You could also train a regiment to improve and get better.  I am not gonna diss on 2017-present or on newgens or on current wannabe top tier shits, but it seems that as people have aged out/left the skilled players seem to all bunch up.  Perhaps that's what made the "Old Gen" era great.  You didn't have just one or two really great regiments you had several.  You had skilled, smart, and approachable leaders who didn't just care about their regiment but they cared about the community.  I gotta give a hand to those regiment leaders/community memebers (whether I liked you or not) who actually helped the community grow and made the game fun.  The rivalry, the fellowship, and the friends that I personally made in that time period really made it...."The good old days"         
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: suns on December 08, 2019, 08:02:47 pm
grown regs > stack regs
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Runepkyz on December 08, 2019, 08:05:15 pm
BBG community 4lyfe.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: ~NickCole~ on December 08, 2019, 08:06:06 pm
WeastSide vs EastSide best rivalry
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: PapaBean on December 08, 2019, 08:07:03 pm
WeastSide vs EastSide best rivalry

Oh god that was a thing
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: maccle on December 08, 2019, 08:08:52 pm
WeastSide vs EastSide best rivalry

Oh god that was a thing
as a founding member of the eastside.. Fuck the weastside yall are waste
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: maccle on December 08, 2019, 08:14:03 pm
i think the main thing was that the majority of players didn't know what was going on, they got recruited to a regiment somehow and then were extremely loyal to the reg they were a part of, even if they were bad. People trained to get better with the people they had and that's the reason it was more fun. People cared more because they were more connected to their reg and wanted them to succeed, compared to now where people don't give a fuck because the reg is probably gonna disband anyway in 3 days. Also I think people took competitive play more seriously and there were a lot more competitive regiments who were pretty actively not trolling and played pretty much everyday.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: DrunkenSpartan on December 08, 2019, 08:20:04 pm
For me, 63e’s rivalry with basically all of NA. Being a part of the “evil empire” was hella fun. Even in 2016 we still had a strong influence, and a strong lineup. The friendships I formed with several 63e carry on to this day and are easily the strongest friendships I’ve had with anyone on NW, hands down, period. Fartknocker, Derp, Vorik, Curtis, even Squirts are easily some of the best people to rely on and talk to. The memories of how much of a powerhouse we were will hold a special place in my memory forever. From 100 man warm ups to event attendance so strong we’d be on both teams in a 200 man event. I will especially never forget all the hard work people like Zen put into it to keep the 63e going at a time when Karth was losing popularity at an increasing rate. The 63e is where I learned how to play this game and it shows- I’m an s-keyer at heart and I owe that to melee instruction I received in 2016. But the 63e for me, at least, will always be one of those truly great regiments in NW. It elevated the state of the game and brought it to a new level. To my former 63e comrades, you know what I’m talking about. And if you hate this post, then you probably got smacked by us more often that not, or have a huge grudge that blows way out of proportion to anything else in this crusty dying game.

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Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Python | Smeagol on December 08, 2019, 08:48:58 pm
For EU i think from 2012-late 2017 was the most fun, probably cus the comp community was much larger. I can remember so many names of good players who have not played in years. Tournaments seemed to be much better with a more even spread of top players. Meta was also a bit less cancerous.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Godsworn Alexiel on December 08, 2019, 09:00:42 pm
It all went downhill once 45e became toxic trolls because had a lot of fun doing it. Before they realized this they were actually not toxic at all. "Troll regs before this were less toxic and moreso about having internal fun trolling each other. Other kids copied them/adopted their ways and members. Even classically "polite" regiments had a shift in the way they interacted with others. Gradually changed the community from a politer pride based competitive scene to a Ad Hom personal attack based social scene. It became less about having fun and more about beating another person at all costs. Before this it was moreso about playing the game with your team on average. You would randomly go around and ask people why they joined x reg and their answers often were "its better than x" or "To beat x lol"

Increased turnover rates, increased tribalism, increased toxicity, personal attacks that went way too far and transcended the online realm.

All this contributed to game decay and reduction in player counts

also the 63e monopoly was bad for overall player numbers. If you unironically think that it was good for the game you don't understand economics/are lying to people who don't understand it.

I think that the introduction of meager amounts of money to try to galvanize competition might have been bad in the long run, as it forced leaders to start an old gen arms race all the time which constantly spread the sentiment of how people hated the game and were only here for the money that wasn't even a lot. This likely discouraged people who really did love the game. Also inflated the numbers to make the community think the game was doing better than it really was.

The older player base also left because they grew up and don't have the time to play every day after school. I remember that competitive regs would have 1v1s nearly every day and that members would ask me "can we do a 1v1 or gf today" basically every day I hadn't scheduled something for a certain day within the week. Such a thing happening now likely is far too great a strain on people's schedules.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Pinoy12 on December 08, 2019, 09:23:07 pm
45e toxic wut????!!!
Falseeeeeeee
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: suns on December 08, 2019, 09:25:49 pm
45e merge into LG slowly dried comp
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: JollyCanadian on December 08, 2019, 09:31:15 pm
BBG community 4lyfe.

still going babe!
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Pinoy12 on December 08, 2019, 09:33:45 pm
45e merge into LG slowly dried comp
Pretty much. Especially since the 45e members that joined had major power in that regiment. I pushed the limits so hard because I knew they wouldn't risk kicking me out, thus losing the stack and possibly risked losing the league.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: JollyCanadian on December 08, 2019, 09:45:38 pm
also the interest in comp went down especially for new players and regiments who didn't like to lose. Pubs don't care much at all for regiments as well. there's a ton of factors that went into the downfall. 

2012-16 had so much interest and excited in the community which made it so engaging. 10/10 would go back
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: PapaBean on December 08, 2019, 10:03:08 pm
It all went downhill once 45e became toxic trolls because had a lot of fun doing it. Before they realized this they were actually not toxic at all. "Troll regs before this were less toxic and moreso about having internal fun trolling each other. Other kids copied them/adopted their ways and members. Even classically "polite" regiments had a shift in the way they interacted with others. Gradually changed the community from a politer pride based competitive scene to a Ad Hom personal attack based social scene. It became less about having fun and more about beating another person at all costs. Before this it was moreso about playing the game with your team on average. You would randomly go around and ask people why they joined x reg and their answers often were "its better than x" or "To beat x lol"

Increased turnover rates, increased tribalism, increased toxicity, personal attacks that went way too far and transcended the online realm.

All this contributed to game decay and reduction in player counts

also the 63e monopoly was bad for overall player numbers. If you unironically think that it was good for the game you don't understand economics/are lying to people who don't understand it.

I think that the introduction of meager amounts of money to try to galvanize competition might have been bad in the long run, as it forced leaders to start an old gen arms race all the time which constantly spread the sentiment of how people hated the game and were only here for the money that wasn't even a lot. This likely discouraged people who really did love the game. Also inflated the numbers to make the community think the game was doing better than it really was.

The older player base also left because they grew up and don't have the time to play every day after school. I remember that competitive regs would have 1v1s nearly every day and that members would ask me "can we do a 1v1 or gf today" basically every day I hadn't scheduled something for a certain day within the week. Such a thing happening now likely is far too great a strain on people's schedules.

100 percent agree with you about the 63e part I really felt that the server should've been used to help the community grow but you know my viewpoints were met with Karth telling me agree with him or I would be banned from the ts.

Honestly I think the money thing was well intended.  TNWL was really about Jorge trying to get his twitch channel into orbit.  It was never intended to help the community.  Money seems to only influence people to say and do things that were never true. 

I mean overall I am talking about how at one point in time we had 54th with Stox and Becker, we had 3evolt with Grim and AsianP, 12th/18th with Tico and Co, 9y with MackCW and Boys, Ody Reg/Deadeye Reg, Alexander reg, 33e reg, USMC, 30th, 27th Newkrik, 63e (when Karth was AFK was actually a decent place to be) and this is not including the casual regiments that I think helped the community i.e. Kolakhan and other event hosters.  I could go on and on but what I am getting at is that we had such a dynamic group of leaders within the community that its going to be interesting when we move on to BCOF, Bannerlord, or whatever to see how we impact those new communities.     
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Windflower on December 08, 2019, 10:11:18 pm
that 45e merge into the LG was pretty fucking nasty ngl fuck whoever did that shit

Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Pinoy12 on December 08, 2019, 10:16:44 pm
that 45e merge into the LG was pretty fucking nasty ngl fuck whoever did that shit
The 45e guys needed a home since the reg was kinda in shambles. The idea of merging was a meme at first, but then it actually became a real thing.
I still remember all the 45e guys gave Russian a bunch of shit in the first couple of events. We would mock poor Russian when he screamed. Thank god Russian isn't an angry bear anymore.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: PapaBean on December 08, 2019, 10:27:24 pm
that 45e merge into the LG was pretty fucking nasty ngl fuck whoever did that shit
The 45e guys needed a home since the reg was kinda in shambles. The idea of merging was a meme at first, but then it actually became a real thing.
I still remember all the 45e guys gave Russian a bunch of shit in the first couple of events. We would mock poor Russian when he screamed. Thank god Russian isn't an angry bear anymore.
45e merging was a "moment" but I don't think it really offset the comp community since the community was already suffering from regiments disbanding and people leaving long before the merge.  As you say Windflower it was all part of the bandwagon movement.  I mean Jackie joining the 71st was also part of that bandwagon era but I feel that it served more good than anything.  The 71st was trash before Jackie ever was there.  Period.  Like Ive seen the NEC videos.  It truly was bad, but when a really talented player decides to join a ok casual regiment...yeah I think it does more good for the community.  Now I am not saying the 45e merging was for the best of the community god no, but I will say that we have seen both good and bad sides of the bandwagon mentality. 

I still point to Karth coming back to the 63e as one of the biggest pushers for the game dying.  JDF leaving is up there too along with most of old gen guys going to that one mod game for warband.  The melee change and than fixing to what it was.  Super regiments like the 18thRI forming (the one with Lawerence and nickcole and shit) really hurt the community as well.  But with everything good things come out of the bad and vice versa. 
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: suns on December 08, 2019, 10:34:11 pm
45e merge into LG slowly dried comp
Pretty much. Especially since the 45e members that joined had major power in that regiment. I pushed the limits so hard because I knew they wouldn't risk kicking me out, thus losing the stack and possibly risked losing the league.

LMAO TRUE

that 45e merge into the LG was pretty fucking nasty ngl fuck whoever did that shit

started off as a meme with yoshie coming into the ts then over the course of a few hours actually became real with a vote
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Rutger Müller on December 08, 2019, 10:40:12 pm
this thread pretty comfy... i think ill stay here for a while.. maybe take a nap
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Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Haze on December 08, 2019, 10:40:53 pm
Back then, they just were more players, and they were more invested in the game possibilities.
The big regimental structures have also declined overtime.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Muhataa on December 08, 2019, 10:42:02 pm
Back then, they just were more players, and they were more invested in the game possibilities.
The big regimental structures have also declined overtime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhckuhUxcgA
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: PapaBean on December 08, 2019, 10:44:54 pm
this thread pretty comfy... i think ill stay here for a while.. maybe take a nap
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rest here old fella ;)
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Kraz on December 08, 2019, 11:18:55 pm
Back then, they just were more players, and they were more invested in the game possibilities.
The big regimental structures have also declined overtime.
and people were more « loyal » to their regiment, not like all the randoms nowaday
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: ~NickCole~ on December 09, 2019, 12:04:09 am
Back then, they just were more players, and they were more invested in the game possibilities.
The big regimental structures have also declined overtime.
and people were more « loyal » to their regiment, not like all the randoms nowaday
Yeh Loyally in NW has be non existent at times over the past 3 years with comp players. In EU it seems like good players were bouncing around at times to new regs frequently. NA started a bandwagon trend after 71st (Not blaming 71st because they were bad before Jackie and Zzehth joined like Bean pointed out) but when a good reg formed most of the good players went there because they wanted to shit on everyone without ever losing it seemed like (This wasn't always the case). I remember people joining 58e & 71st for example because they wanted to play with the best regs. I'm sure they had some or few friends in there but very few people wanted to help build regs to become top tier after 2015 (except PSG since their peak was in 2016). Of course 2017 on its impossible to do that without recruiting good players to a pub reg since the skill gap between pubs and comp players is ridiculously far apart.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: DrunkenSpartan on December 09, 2019, 12:16:04 am
Back then, they just were more players, and they were more invested in the game possibilities.
The big regimental structures have also declined overtime.
and people were more « loyal » to their regiment, not like all the randoms nowaday
Yeh Loyally in NW has be non existent at times over the past 3 years with comp players. In EU it seems like good players were bouncing around at times to new regs frequently. NA started a bandwagon trend after 71st (Not blaming 71st because they were bad before Jackie and Zzehth joined like Bean pointed out) but when a good reg formed most of the good players went there because they wanted to shit on everyone without ever losing it seemed like (This wasn't always the case). I remember people joining 58e & 71st for example because they wanted to play with the best regs. I'm sure they had some or few friends in there but very few people wanted to help build regs to become top tier after 2015 (except PSG since their peak was in 2016). Of course 2017 on its impossible to do that without recruiting good players to a pub reg since the skill gap between pubs and comp players is ridiculously far apart.


The skill gap is a pretty good reason for the slow decline of the comp scene. Couple people mentioned the "63e m0n0p0ly" and "o no karth : (( hes mean to me time to boycott" but life went on. IMO the real issue in present day NW is there are only two tiers of players: absolute garbage and sweaty tryhard. The days of average Joe joining a comp reg and becoming proficient are pretty much over. Not saying it never happens but I mean....come on...
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Sgt.Winters on December 09, 2019, 12:55:59 am
We were young, had ttime, and were oblivious to reality. Now most of us are in or graduated college, bogged down by draining schedules and responsibilities. There were far more people playing, people who were willing to take risks and do stupid shit for the hell of it. Our younger selves had stamina, efficiency, and a sort of willingness to just have fun while letting most drama slide.

It isn't like that anymore.

We realized that the inescapable march of time was gaining on us. Sooner or later, people would have to move on. The game wasn't as much fun anymore, and we decided to either migrate to other games or leave the whole machine to waste. That's what most of did, but for some, they just couldn't bare leaving behind the very game that once had made them so happy. We are those people, and now look at us. Miserable, depressed, anxiety-ridden, and awaiting the inevitable collapse of civilization due to greed. Things back then may have not been all that great, but compared to now, it was paradise on Earth.

There is something in almost every child and adolescent that makes everything seem much better and brighter than it actually is. It allows them feel enagaged, important, and loved. We had the capacity to feel connected, a capacity that no longer exists after multiple jaded experiences. That spark of life that was once strong within all of us, can never again be reignited. Soon enough, we'll all be dead, and the remains of what was once this beautiful game will disappear along with us. Just remember, that for a small but incredible time in our lives, we were once so incredibly excited to shoot and stab at pixels on an average-looking indie game.
 
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: JollyCanadian on December 09, 2019, 01:10:41 am
that sums it up pretty well actually.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: PapaBean on December 09, 2019, 02:12:13 am
We were young, had ttime, and were oblivious to reality. Now most of us are in or graduated college, bogged down by draining schedules and responsibilities. There were far more people playing, people who were willing to take risks and do stupid shit for the hell of it. Our younger selves had stamina, efficiency, and a sort of willingness to just have fun while letting most drama slide.

It isn't like that anymore.

We realized that the inescapable march of time was gaining on us. Sooner or later, people would have to move on. The game wasn't as much fun anymore, and we decided to either migrate to other games or leave the whole machine to waste. That's what most of did, but for some, they just couldn't bare leaving behind the very game that once had made them so happy. We are those people, and now look at us. Miserable, depressed, anxiety-ridden, and awaiting the inevitable collapse of civilization due to greed. Things back then may have not been all that great, but compared to now, it was paradise on Earth.

There is something in almost every child and adolescent that makes everything seem much better and brighter than it actually is. It allows them feel enagaged, important, and loved. We had the capacity to feel connected, a capacity that no longer exists after multiple jaded experiences. That spark of life that was once strong within all of us, can never again be reignited. Soon enough, we'll all be dead, and the remains of what was once this beautiful game will disappear along with us. Just remember, that for a small but incredible time in our lives, we were once so incredibly excited to shoot and stab at pixels on an average-looking indie game.

I agree with most of this.  But I think it almost has to do with how you perceive things.  Like you said as young kids we were able to do things that we can't do anymore.  In many respects you are right, I think with regards to playing this Indie game, you can't not dedicate your life to it like you could for CSGO and other games.  This was always meant to be hobby.  It was never meant to be taken as real life.  As you have indicated you used this game as an escape, a way to avoid what reality really was.  Reality was always full of greed and every other mental illness under the sun.  We chose to ignore that and play a 19th century game that was centered around the Battle of Waterloo.  For many of us we chose to remain within in the community due to our close bonds we have with others that we met online.  These fellowships allowed for some to even meet in real life and enjoy each others company. 
So thats where you loose me winters.  These feelings of no longer feeling connected or open to new experiences are very much driven from a thought process of self-protection.  Its almost as if you are saying, "I got my finger jammed in the door 3 times so I am never going outside again".  Well that thought process comes from a place of putting up barriers and pushing ones flaws under the rug.  The spark of life as you call I assume is the spark of innocences or enjoyment from a game.  This can always, always, always be reignited, it may not be the same but that feeling happens so many times throughout life.  Not just in video games but when you experience things for the first time.  You will always be a student Winters, a student to life.  Try not to get swallowed by things you can't control. 
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Kraz on December 09, 2019, 02:13:28 am
Yeah Nick, I agree with you. We saw this by many regs created which disband too soon with almost the same rosters, some players were and are always today in 2 regs.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: |Viper| on December 09, 2019, 04:35:08 am
I miss being in 9+ regiments every week!!! Seriously was fun messing with people and meeting a ton of different players from casual and competitive.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Theodin on December 09, 2019, 04:45:44 am
I had a lot of fun back in the 71st because we were boys! For a long while you had a group you were loyal to - 71st, 63e, 3e, 12th, 45e, 5th, 30th - the community was a devolved community consisting of smaller subgroups, while these days there are a lot less devolved subgroups and they’re much less defined.
The social strata of the NA community was very clear in those days. You were part of x group/regiment run by x leader, and regardless of what transpired in game you were inescapably part of that group. Can’t say that now.

On the 71st as a stack: it was indeed stacked, you’re right, but think about this - every other stack in NW history post 71st lacked cohesion and longevity. The 71st was a stack but it was successful for so long because we were tight knit. It had the same social structure as the 63e, 12th, 5th, etc, but everyone shits on it because Jackie and Zzehth (good friends, who incidentally became friends of us all and stayed for a long time) happened to join when the 12th went kaput.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Windflower on December 09, 2019, 04:49:22 am
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Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Theodin on December 09, 2019, 05:59:56 am
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More like a declining player base and the retirement of key leaders. Bandwagons formed because reg leaders grew increasingly incapable of attracting a core, and so those cores moved on to the leaders that could.
The best leaders grew their core sustainably - that’s why your regs always stagnated
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: BabyJesus on December 09, 2019, 06:11:04 am
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More like a declining player base and the retirement of key leaders. Bandwagons formed because reg leaders grew increasingly incapable of attracting a core, and so those cores moved on to the leaders that could.
The best leaders grew their core sustainably - that’s why your regs always stagnated
retirement of key leaders low key had a huge impact
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: JollyCanadian on December 09, 2019, 06:21:07 am
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retirement of key leaders low key had a huge impact
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Fartknocker on December 09, 2019, 06:21:52 am
I really miss the days in 63e where we'd all stick around after events and play games. Like full server TTT and stuff.

When we used to casually bring 120 to events was also fun to experience. There were so many people in the 63e it was almost impossible to not make new friends all the time. The culture has even stuck around to this day cause of Zen.

I am glad that I was able to enjoy the 63e for so long. A lot of people hate but it was the best group of dudes in this game. The discipline too was mostly perfect. It is awesome to be part of a powerhouse like that and it still humors me to this day when people get upset at the 63e and Karth.

I also was able to join the 75th after I got banned from the 63e for a few months (thanks Krastinov). Got to win TNWL and I started to see how toxic players made the game more fun too.

Even 2017+ years were fun. After the 63e went to Holdfast I got to be part of regiments like the 93rd and the LG. It is unfortunate that the game has pretty much died but it was a fun run.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: JollyCanadian on December 09, 2019, 06:30:59 am
I really miss the days in 63e where we'd all stick around after events and play games. Like full server TTT and stuff.
TTT with y'all was great we should play again
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: BabyJesus on December 09, 2019, 06:31:44 am
I also think that non-regimental events like WPC played a part in the final downfall.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: David_Schrein on December 09, 2019, 06:31:49 am
I forgot fartknocker was my bro in 93rd.
Fuckyou fart
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Fartknocker on December 09, 2019, 06:35:12 am
I forgot fartknocker was my bro in 93rd.
Fuckyou fart

<3

I really miss the days in 63e where we'd all stick around after events and play games. Like full server TTT and stuff.
TTT with y'all was great we should play again

Yeah I miss it a ton. I'm not really able to play much anymore sadly. Senior year of college so it has mostly been drinking and homework lol. Maybe over winter break we can organize something.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: DrunkenSpartan on December 09, 2019, 03:48:17 pm
I also think that non-regimental events like WPC played a part in the final downfall.

The toxicity of people fighting over a supposed $1000 prize pool didn’t help the community. The iterations afterwards were less toxic but had the same kind of effect.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: BabyJesus on December 09, 2019, 04:04:32 pm
I also think that non-regimental events like WPC played a part in the final downfall.

The toxicity of people fighting over a supposed $1000 prize pool didn’t help the community. The iterations afterwards were less toxic but had the same kind of effect.
well I think the main problem was people put WPC stuff over regimental events. Competitive Regimental stuff pretty much dies every time one of those leagues starts up
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: MarjioviçR on December 09, 2019, 04:19:32 pm
fun in nw died when trump became president
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Runepkyz on December 09, 2019, 04:33:19 pm
I miss my miata driving leader god damn it!
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: DrunkenSpartan on December 09, 2019, 06:26:46 pm
I miss AdderallP
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Maple™ on December 09, 2019, 06:59:05 pm
2014 was the start of the best years of nw because thats when i joined
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: PapaBean on December 09, 2019, 07:22:45 pm
I am curious as to who you guys honestly felt was the most impactful to the community as a whole, not just the competitive scene.  I recall 1stEPI Gunny and 5arge having a huge impact on how regiments would be run.  I also know that people like Tico, Jorge, Millander, Kolakhan, and others who came out of the 1stEPI/similar regiments, had huge impacts as well.  I think honestly the Prussian Army was hands down one of the most influential group of people for the NA side of NW because they really started the organization of events, how regiments were run, and how the community SHOULD interact with each other. 
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: ~NickCole~ on December 09, 2019, 07:34:45 pm
2014 was the start of the best years of nw because thats when i joined
mopel = nR9 nuub
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: DrunkenSpartan on December 09, 2019, 07:41:23 pm
I am curious as to who you guys honestly felt was the most impactful to the community as a whole, not just the competitive scene.  I recall 1stEPI Gunny and 5arge having a huge impact on how regiments would be run.  I also know that people like Tico, Jorge, Millander, Kolakhan, and others who came out of the 1stEPI/similar regiments, had huge impacts as well.  I think honestly the Prussian Army was hands down one of the most influential group of people for the NA side of NW because they really started the organization of events, how regiments were run, and how the community SHOULD interact with each other.

Probably most impactful overall, also most impactful negatively- Karth

Most impactful positively, for me at least- Jackie Chan. Showed me what was possible in the game while he was in 63e.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: PapaBean on December 09, 2019, 07:49:03 pm
I am curious as to who you guys honestly felt was the most impactful to the community as a whole, not just the competitive scene.  I recall 1stEPI Gunny and 5arge having a huge impact on how regiments would be run.  I also know that people like Tico, Jorge, Millander, Kolakhan, and others who came out of the 1stEPI/similar regiments, had huge impacts as well.  I think honestly the Prussian Army was hands down one of the most influential group of people for the NA side of NW because they really started the organization of events, how regiments were run, and how the community SHOULD interact with each other.

Probably most impactful overall, also most impactful negatively- Karth

Most impactful positively, for me at least- Jackie Chan. Showed me what was possible in the game while he was in 63e.

Lol I have too much knowledge about this game lol hahahahahhahaha I guess my perspective covers a longer period of time lol

But I do see how Karth could be someone who had the most impact, I could also see how Jackie could as well.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: DrunkenSpartan on December 09, 2019, 07:58:18 pm

Lol I have too much knowledge about this game lol hahahahahhahaha I guess my perspective covers a longer period of time lol


Probably. I use these two pieces of evidence to back up my claim, but you're already familiar with them.

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Elite Tier (Big Brain) (90-100)

95.5 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Karth (63e)
95.0 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Breaches/Tico (12th)
92.5 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) AsianP (3eVolt/58e)
91.0 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Breaches (12th)
90.0 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Tico (12th)
90.0 - (https://i.imgur.com/CNOr3Kt.png) Grimsight (3eVolt)
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Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Wastee on December 09, 2019, 07:59:12 pm
Quote
retirement of key leaders low key had a huge impact
This.

People lost a stable home regiment and either quit or moved to a regiment with a set following and leadership.

For example the 1a Svea run that happened recently started as a stack and contender but quickly fell apart due to lack of interest and stability
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Glenn on December 09, 2019, 08:13:38 pm
I miss my miata driving leader god damn it!
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: JollyCanadian on December 09, 2019, 09:55:35 pm
I miss my miata driving leader god damn it!
time to reform USMC for the fourth time
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Theodin on December 09, 2019, 09:56:27 pm
Quote
retirement of key leaders low key had a huge impact
This.

People lost a stable home regiment and either quit or moved to a regiment with a set following and leadership.

For example the 1a Svea run that happened recently started as a stack and contender but quickly fell apart due to lack of interest and stability
Bandwagons have always formed from 2+ regiments having their key leaders retire causing them to join with a reg that hasn’t had that issue. If people spent less time complaining about the strength of regiments and more time building and developing a loyal core there would be less bandwagons!
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Glenn on December 09, 2019, 09:57:46 pm
I miss my miata driving leader god damn it!
time to reform USMC for the fourth time

wait till 2020 so it looks like we've been around for 8 years
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: JollyCanadian on December 09, 2019, 10:40:08 pm
I miss my miata driving leader god damn it!
time to reform USMC for the fourth time

wait till 2020 so it looks like we've been around for 8 years
bet
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Rutger Müller on December 10, 2019, 06:28:50 am
one thing I liked about my group was that we didn't have any large group of outsiders join that thought they were better than us. I didnt really interact with the community for the majority of my time and we just stuck to ourselves, and i think building our own small and dedicated community is what made it so much fun for me
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Windflower on December 10, 2019, 06:33:37 am
Quote
retirement of key leaders low key had a huge impact
This.

People lost a stable home regiment and either quit or moved to a regiment with a set following and leadership.

For example the 1a Svea run that happened recently started as a stack and contender but quickly fell apart due to lack of interest and stability
Bandwagons have always formed from 2+ regiments having their key leaders retire causing them to join with a reg that hasn’t had that issue. If people spent less time complaining about the strength of regiments and more time building and developing a loyal core there would be less bandwagons!
False!
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Pinoy12 on December 10, 2019, 06:51:08 am
one thing I liked about my group was that we didn't have any large group of outsiders join that thought they were better than us. I didnt really interact with the community for the majority of my time and we just stuck to ourselves, and i think building our own small and dedicated community is what made it so much fun for me
Yeah there is something about starting up organically with your own people that hits different.  I feel you on that one for sure
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Wastee on December 10, 2019, 09:02:46 am
Quote
retirement of key leaders low key had a huge impact
This.

People lost a stable home regiment and either quit or moved to a regiment with a set following and leadership.

For example the 1a Svea run that happened recently started as a stack and contender but quickly fell apart due to lack of interest and stability
Bandwagons have always formed from 2+ regiments having their key leaders retire causing them to join with a reg that hasn’t had that issue. If people spent less time complaining about the strength of regiments and more time building and developing a loyal core there would be less bandwagons!
False!
Yeah! The 40th started from people leaving regiments that didn't do events and 1 who lost its leader!
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Theodin on December 10, 2019, 03:27:47 pm
^
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Windflower on December 10, 2019, 03:38:34 pm
^
Bandwagons are a natural occurrence due to human nature, it basically isn't avoidable
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Sethja8 on December 10, 2019, 10:40:08 pm
events (the only thing that matters)

1)  rule changes that effectively nerfed competent regiments while buffing either massive-sized mediocre-to-terrible regiments or just bad players (see the great rise of "fire on charge" turning into "pretty much just shoot whenever and we won't slay you"), leading to severe apathy from these regiments as to how well the events are administered

1.5)  allowing more lenient rules for light infantry and skirmishers ties into this.  the only guys who don't hate light infantry are light infantry players.

2)  the loss of interest of people who were devoted to specialties or being the best at X

3)  the loss of interest of individuals/regiments who were good or genuinely competitive and not up their own ass about it

4)  the loss of interest of higher-ups in the community and regiments, leading to organization dwindling or an event going to shit and making community members leave (trust me when i say that even if you have 80 dudes in your unit, if there's nobody to tell them to "go here at this time and do what i say," they won't show up for anything)

public play

1)  there being servers that weren't just bot smashes or groupfights (cav groupfight is still pretty fun tho not gonna lie)

2)  there being any activity at all

3)  the "warband craze" i.e. the mount and blade "feeling" that stuck with you, which inevitably dies out.  this happening on a global scale could never support an indefinite multiplayer (not like it was supposed to) but it may have died out early due to barren updates (thank god Battlecry of Freedom is coming out!... guys?)

3.5)  dry span of no updates really did affect the "common normie" from playing this game compared to the "veteran and chad linebattle attender", furthermore no singleplayer component of any kind may have hurt that as well

4)  a biased opinion coming from a dude who loved making stupid maps, but had map makers been more prominent i think we would have seen more public activity.  there was just never incentive to make maps since server owners never looked for them.


now IMO if you organized a decent event with decent rules and decent regiments in 2019 or 2020 it would be fine and dandy.  public play i can't comment on since at some point i got caked from even bothering with it and never played it again.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: DrunkenSpartan on December 10, 2019, 10:50:53 pm
^
Bandwagons are a natural occurrence due to human nature, it basically isn't avoidable

Things in human nature (not all inclusive): Morality, spirituality, friendship and belonging, physical security, survival, sex, sleep, a sense of self, aspiration, art, the desire to learn, the ability to use language, social interaction, altruism, achievement, respect, beliefs




Windflower's definition: nW b00ndWaG00nS GUISE


1.5)  allowing more lenient rules for light infantry and skirmishers ties into this.  the only guys who don't hate light infantry are light infantry players.

Also, this. When I was in the 63e skirmisher reform under Duuze and JasonH a couple years back  there were about a dozen extra rules we had to follow and tight formations and chain of command rules in place. Now skirmishers literally shit all over themselves and nobody tells them to clean up.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Eazy-E on December 11, 2019, 12:06:00 am
What made that period so much fun was there was actually a lot of opportunity. Back in 2012/13, anyone could make a regiment and make a success of it because there was such a large number of players. You wouldn't have to ask people to leave their regiment to join yours, do grubby deals or merge to keep a high attendance, you could just hop on a public server and spam some recruitment messages and you'd get people replying almost every time.

I think a huge part of what made this era fun was that the skill gap was far smaller than it is now. There were so many regiments that there were plenty of skill tiers and you'd always find regiments of your size and strength to fight. Regiments actively spent time training up their own players rather than trying to recruit already skilled ones. This made for much more stable communities as most players were loyal to the regiment they first joined. The smaller skill gap meant that new players weren't completely out of their depth and unable to break through; if your line had 5 good meleers, just teaching the rest of the line how to do basic blocks was enough to hold your own in a linebattle. Formations and leading felt like more of a factor too, and I think the whole community was a lot more interested in a degree of roleplaying. Nowadays it seems basically impossible to mix the roleplay aspect with the competitive one because the best players are tired of standing in lines and doing formations. Back in 2013 they still felt fresh for most people.

These days it seems like a zero sum game - there's only so many players left for regiments to suck up. I can't see how anyone would build a regiment from scratch in 2019, with so few new players to recruit. If you did try to start a regiment you'd presumably have to rely on contacts from previous regiments and use your influence in the community to get the right cliques and groups on board, which leads to instability as they'll be on to the next flavour of the month regiment when it pops up.

Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Fungus on December 11, 2019, 12:48:03 am
Me  8)
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Windflower on December 11, 2019, 06:25:54 am
^
Bandwagons are a natural occurrence due to human nature, it basically isn't avoidable

Things in human nature (not all inclusive): Morality, spirituality, friendship and belonging, physical security, survival, sex, sleep, a sense of self, aspiration, art, the desire to learn, the ability to use language, social interaction, altruism, achievement, respect, beliefs

Windflower's definition: nW b00ndWaG00nS GUISE
> acts nice to me in teamspeak
> is actually completely fake and talks shit to me on FSE
hahahahaha people like you ;D

Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: DrunkenSpartan on December 11, 2019, 06:29:10 am
Life’s a mystery innit  ::)
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Risk_ on December 11, 2019, 08:12:05 am
^
Bandwagons are a natural occurrence due to human nature, it basically isn't avoidable

Things in human nature (not all inclusive): Morality, spirituality, friendship and belonging, physical security, survival, sex, sleep, a sense of self, aspiration, art, the desire to learn, the ability to use language, social interaction, altruism, achievement, respect, beliefs

Windflower's definition: nW b00ndWaG00nS GUISE
> acts nice to me in teamspeak
> is actually completely fake and talks shit to me on FSE
hahahahaha people like you ;D

it's what happens to people during their first year on the forums. they get the edgy and "bait" cards
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Kraz on December 11, 2019, 11:23:52 am
Spoiler
What made that period so much fun was there was actually a lot of opportunity. Back in 2012/13, anyone could make a regiment and make a success of it because there was such a large number of players. You wouldn't have to ask people to leave their regiment to join yours, do grubby deals or merge to keep a high attendance, you could just hop on a public server and spam some recruitment messages and you'd get people replying almost every time.

I think a huge part of what made this era fun was that the skill gap was far smaller than it is now. There were so many regiments that there were plenty of skill tiers and you'd always find regiments of your size and strength to fight. Regiments actively spent time training up their own players rather than trying to recruit already skilled ones. This made for much more stable communities as most players were loyal to the regiment they first joined. The smaller skill gap meant that new players weren't completely out of their depth and unable to break through; if your line had 5 good meleers, just teaching the rest of the line how to do basic blocks was enough to hold your own in a linebattle. Formations and leading felt like more of a factor too, and I think the whole community was a lot more interested in a degree of roleplaying. Nowadays it seems basically impossible to mix the roleplay aspect with the competitive one because the best players are tired of standing in lines and doing formations. Back in 2013 they still felt fresh for most people.

These days it seems like a zero sum game - there's only so many players left for regiments to suck up. I can't see how anyone would build a regiment from scratch in 2019, with so few new players to recruit. If you did try to start a regiment you'd presumably have to rely on contacts from previous regiments and use your influence in the community to get the right cliques and groups on board, which leads to instability as they'll be on to the next flavour of the month regiment when it pops up.
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that’s like a back in time when I read this  :D
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: sidney crosby on December 11, 2019, 05:10:20 pm
windy spent good years of his life crying on here about bandwagons only to join one  :'(

bend the knee to my moral high ground BUDDY
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Windflower on December 11, 2019, 05:19:17 pm
windy spent good years of his life crying on here about bandwagons only to join one  :'(

bend the knee to my moral high ground
yet another snake who acts nice on teamspeak but talks shit on FSE, seriously what is with all these pussies?
I was in the Nr23 (not a bandwagon) so I stayed loyal and joined them when they came back, not much choice for comp regs nowadays anyway, def not joining the LG, 93rd, or 29y lmao
reported btw
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: sidney crosby on December 11, 2019, 05:29:29 pm
windy spent good years of his life crying on here about bandwagons only to join one  :'(

bend the knee to my moral high ground faggot
yet another snake who acts nice on teamspeak but talks shit on FSE, seriously what is with all these pussies?
I was in the Nr23 (not a bandwagon) so I stayed loyal and joined them when they came back, not much choice for comp regs nowadays anyway, def not joining the LG, 93rd, or 29y lmao
reported btw
calling me a pussy but reporting me on the forums

UH VAI MORRER
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: DrunkenSpartan on December 11, 2019, 05:45:27 pm
windy spent good years of his life crying on here about bandwagons only to join one  :'(

bend the knee to my moral high ground faggot
yet another snake who acts nice on teamspeak but talks shit on FSE, seriously what is with all these pussies?
I was in the Nr23 (not a bandwagon) so I stayed loyal and joined them when they came back, not much choice for comp regs nowadays anyway, def not joining the LG, 93rd, or 29y lmao
reported btw

Your avatar is Jimmy Hopkins and you can’t handle even casual shit talk without melting down into an SJW munchkin. Life’s a mystery innit  ::)
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Windflower on December 11, 2019, 05:55:49 pm
windy spent good years of his life crying on here about bandwagons only to join one  :'(

bend the knee to my moral high ground faggot
yet another snake who acts nice on teamspeak but talks shit on FSE, seriously what is with all these pussies?
I was in the Nr23 (not a bandwagon) so I stayed loyal and joined them when they came back, not much choice for comp regs nowadays anyway, def not joining the LG, 93rd, or 29y lmao
reported btw
calling me a pussy but reporting me on the forums

UH VAI MORRER
gotta add insult to injury  ;)
sayin' uh vai morrer when you cannot fight to save your life big rip

windy spent good years of his life crying on here about bandwagons only to join one  :'(

bend the knee to my moral high ground faggot
yet another snake who acts nice on teamspeak but talks shit on FSE, seriously what is with all these pussies?
I was in the Nr23 (not a bandwagon) so I stayed loyal and joined them when they came back, not much choice for comp regs nowadays anyway, def not joining the LG, 93rd, or 29y lmao
reported btw

Your avatar is Jimmy Hopkins and you can’t handle even casual shit talk without melting down into an SJW munchkin. Life’s a mystery innit  ::)
You know Jimmy Hopkins typically beats up people who shit talk him right? I don't even need to know anything about you, just telling by your scrawny voice I can tell how much of a loser you are in real life
Now this is the last post you'll get from me, move along now okay buddy?  :)
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Theodin on December 12, 2019, 12:39:26 am
Can’t believe I voted for him for CR, I’m a damn chump
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Fartknocker on December 12, 2019, 05:36:46 am
It is nice to have remained a mostly neutral party in my time on NW.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: |Viper| on December 12, 2019, 05:51:46 am
It is nice to have remained a mostly neutral party in my time on NW.
Shut up pussy.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: DrunkenSpartan on December 12, 2019, 06:20:38 am
No these people actually genuinely dislike like me

Objection Your Honor, speculation: the witness is a lay witness, not an expert, and cannot opine on what was or wasn’t going on in the minds of these people.


Bonus material, Argument from Personal Incredulity: Windflower’s own mental limitations do not limit the physical world. His inability to comprehend shit talking does not limit the scope of shit talking in the same way that airplanes fly regardless of whether or not Windflower understands how a turbine engine works.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Wastee on December 12, 2019, 06:38:30 am
I like windy!
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Windflower on December 12, 2019, 06:39:25 am
No these people actually genuinely dislike like me
hey man all I do is spew shit don't mind me!
Spoiler
(https://memestatic.fjcdn.com/pictures/This_bf051e_6260295.jpg)
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I like windy!
Waste you always kept it 1 hunnid, appreciate u
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Olafson on December 12, 2019, 11:37:10 am
I did.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Stroke0fd34th on December 12, 2019, 12:11:48 pm
windy spent good years of his life crying on here about bandwagons only to join one  :'(

bend the knee to my moral high ground
yet another snake who acts nice on teamspeak but talks shit on FSE, seriously what is with all these pussies?
I was in the Nr23 (not a bandwagon) so I stayed loyal and joined them when they came back, not much choice for comp regs nowadays anyway, def not joining the LG, 93rd, or 29y lmao
reported btw

Excuse me? Do you honestly think you're too good to join my regiment which has been disbanded since Sunday? Well, you know what? We def don't want you anyways, consider your invitation rescinded indefinitely.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Earth Bby on December 12, 2019, 01:03:37 pm
I did.

A Joke no one else got sadly
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: |Viper| on December 12, 2019, 01:25:14 pm
Winters > Spartan
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: DrunkenSpartan on December 12, 2019, 01:29:45 pm
Salad > Vetro
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: |Viper| on December 12, 2019, 02:25:50 pm
Salad > Vetro
Nah bro my breadsticks are fire as hell. I add that extra butter and salt.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: DrunkenSpartan on December 12, 2019, 02:36:12 pm
Salad > Vetro
Nah bro my breadsticks are fire as hell. I add that extra butter and salt.

Why do you guys always put an entire pound of pepper into the salad? I go to Olive Garden, I get like three croutons but the entire stock of pepper
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: ~NickCole~ on December 12, 2019, 02:37:21 pm
Salad > Vetro
Nah bro my breadsticks are fire as hell. I add that extra butter and salt.
Vetro where are my order of breadsticks??!?!?!
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: |Viper| on December 12, 2019, 02:42:42 pm
Salad > Vetro
Nah bro my breadsticks are fire as hell. I add that extra butter and salt.

Why do you guys always put an entire pound of pepper into the salad? I go to Olive Garden, I get like three croutons but the entire stock of pepper
So less people come back  8)

Salad > Vetro
Nah bro my breadsticks are fire as hell. I add that extra butter and salt.
Vetro where are my order of breadsticks??!?!?!
I already ate them  :-X (I had to test the flavor and I just got carried away and I couldn’t help myself...
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Theodin on December 12, 2019, 02:59:00 pm
I did.

A Joke no one else got sadly
Marks did
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Earth Bby on December 12, 2019, 03:31:32 pm
I did.

A Joke no one else got sadly
Marks did

!!!!!!!
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: PapaBean on December 12, 2019, 05:00:31 pm
No these people actually genuinely dislike like me

Objection Your Honor, speculation: the witness is a lay witness, not an expert, and cannot opine on what was or wasn’t going on in the minds of these people.


Bonus material, Argument from Personal Incredulity: Windflower’s own mental limitations do not limit the physical world. His inability to comprehend shit talking does not limit the scope of shit talking in the same way that airplanes fly regardless of whether or not Windflower understands how a turbine engine works.

Salad > Vetro
Nah bro my breadsticks are fire as hell. I add that extra butter and salt.

Why do you guys always put an entire pound of pepper into the salad? I go to Olive Garden, I get like three croutons but the entire stock of pepper

God damn this is why I love you Spartan. 


Salad > Vetro
Nah bro my breadsticks are fire as hell. I add that extra butter and salt.
Vetro where are my order of breadsticks??!?!?!

Nick get off your fat ass and drive to Olive Garden yourself better yet start walking boy.  Lemme go get my cattle prod to help you start moving....
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Windflower on December 12, 2019, 05:04:09 pm
windy spent good years of his life crying on here about bandwagons only to join one  :'(

bend the knee to my moral high ground
yet another snake who acts nice on teamspeak but talks shit on FSE, seriously what is with all these pussies?
I was in the Nr23 (not a bandwagon) so I stayed loyal and joined them when they came back, not much choice for comp regs nowadays anyway, def not joining the LG, 93rd, or 29y lmao
reported btw

Excuse me? Do you honestly think you're too good to join my regiment which has been disbanded since Sunday? Well, you know what? We def don't want you anyways, consider your invitation rescinded indefinitely.

Awh Godfreid :'( I don't think I'm too good for your regiment I just wouldn't have fit well with your regiment, same goes with the LG, just when there's only 3-4 regiments left there's not much option in regard to what you prefer in a regiment
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: PapaBean on December 12, 2019, 05:23:51 pm
windy spent good years of his life crying on here about bandwagons only to join one  :'(

bend the knee to my moral high ground
yet another snake who acts nice on teamspeak but talks shit on FSE, seriously what is with all these pussies?
I was in the Nr23 (not a bandwagon) so I stayed loyal and joined them when they came back, not much choice for comp regs nowadays anyway, def not joining the LG, 93rd, or 29y lmao
reported btw

Excuse me? Do you honestly think you're too good to join my regiment which has been disbanded since Sunday? Well, you know what? We def don't want you anyways, consider your invitation rescinded indefinitely.

Awh Godfreid :'( I don't think I'm too good for your regiment I just wouldn't have fit well with your regiment, same goes with the LG, just when there's only 3-4 regiments left there's not much option in regard to what you prefer in a regiment

I mean you could always join a regiment that is not as good and help train them to get better.  We have more than 3-4 regiments out there in NA.  I mean we saw what you did with the PSG....but no I get it you know making new friends is hard plus you know time restraints with all the kickboxing and shit you do...I get it. And just to let you know even when you get knocked down you can always get back up you little shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H5uWRjFsGc
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Windflower on December 12, 2019, 05:45:12 pm
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windy spent good years of his life crying on here about bandwagons only to join one  :'(

bend the knee to my moral high ground
yet another snake who acts nice on teamspeak but talks shit on FSE, seriously what is with all these pussies?
I was in the Nr23 (not a bandwagon) so I stayed loyal and joined them when they came back, not much choice for comp regs nowadays anyway, def not joining the LG, 93rd, or 29y lmao
reported btw

Excuse me? Do you honestly think you're too good to join my regiment which has been disbanded since Sunday? Well, you know what? We def don't want you anyways, consider your invitation rescinded indefinitely.

Awh Godfreid :'( I don't think I'm too good for your regiment I just wouldn't have fit well with your regiment, same goes with the LG, just when there's only 3-4 regiments left there's not much option in regard to what you prefer in a regiment
[close]

I mean you could always join a regiment that is not as good and help train them to get better.  We have more than 3-4 regiments out there in NA.  I mean we saw what you did with the PSG....but no I get it you know making new friends is hard plus you know time restraints with all the kickboxing and shit you do...I get it. And just to let you know even when you get knocked down you can always get back up you little shit.

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H5uWRjFsGc
[close]
You right, that's what I thought I was going to be doing with the 40th but I didn't think they were going to get as big as they did and honestly I was out of touch with the regiments outside of the main comp ones. We're disbanding when Yoloswag leaves in February (pretty sure), so then I'll be able to contribute more positively in the community by joining the RSL or something but I always feel bad when leaving a regiment so I generally tend to not do that. Some notable people have been leaving the 40th recently so I'm gonna stick it out to the end just like how it was when people abandoned the 92nd. I appreciate your kind/motivational words  ;D
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: PapaBean on December 12, 2019, 05:52:03 pm
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windy spent good years of his life crying on here about bandwagons only to join one  :'(

bend the knee to my moral high ground
yet another snake who acts nice on teamspeak but talks shit on FSE, seriously what is with all these pussies?
I was in the Nr23 (not a bandwagon) so I stayed loyal and joined them when they came back, not much choice for comp regs nowadays anyway, def not joining the LG, 93rd, or 29y lmao
reported btw

Excuse me? Do you honestly think you're too good to join my regiment which has been disbanded since Sunday? Well, you know what? We def don't want you anyways, consider your invitation rescinded indefinitely.

Awh Godfreid :'( I don't think I'm too good for your regiment I just wouldn't have fit well with your regiment, same goes with the LG, just when there's only 3-4 regiments left there's not much option in regard to what you prefer in a regiment
[close]

I mean you could always join a regiment that is not as good and help train them to get better.  We have more than 3-4 regiments out there in NA.  I mean we saw what you did with the PSG....but no I get it you know making new friends is hard plus you know time restraints with all the kickboxing and shit you do...I get it. And just to let you know even when you get knocked down you can always get back up you little shit.

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H5uWRjFsGc
[close]
You right, that's what I thought I was going to be doing with the 40th but I didn't think they were going to get as big as they did and honestly I was out of touch with the regiments outside of the main comp ones. We're disbanding when Yoloswag leaves in February (pretty sure), so then I'll be able to contribute more positively in the community by joining the RSL or something but I always feel bad when leaving a regiment so I generally tend to not do that. Some notable people have been leaving the 40th recently so I'm gonna stick it out to the end just like how it was when people abandoned the 92nd. I appreciate your kind/motivational words  ;D

I mean not just RSL I mean a totally different group.  A new group.  I used to do that a little bit. 2ndBRM and a few others here and there but you gotta do you though :)

You see you kinda have to find a new regiment to counter the fact you did kinda leave the PSG for a bandwagon reg  :-\ but I won't go into details about that now
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Windflower on December 12, 2019, 06:08:04 pm
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Spoiler
windy spent good years of his life crying on here about bandwagons only to join one  :'(

bend the knee to my moral high ground
yet another snake who acts nice on teamspeak but talks shit on FSE, seriously what is with all these pussies?
I was in the Nr23 (not a bandwagon) so I stayed loyal and joined them when they came back, not much choice for comp regs nowadays anyway, def not joining the LG, 93rd, or 29y lmao
reported btw

Excuse me? Do you honestly think you're too good to join my regiment which has been disbanded since Sunday? Well, you know what? We def don't want you anyways, consider your invitation rescinded indefinitely.

Awh Godfreid :'( I don't think I'm too good for your regiment I just wouldn't have fit well with your regiment, same goes with the LG, just when there's only 3-4 regiments left there's not much option in regard to what you prefer in a regiment
[close]

I mean you could always join a regiment that is not as good and help train them to get better.  We have more than 3-4 regiments out there in NA.  I mean we saw what you did with the PSG....but no I get it you know making new friends is hard plus you know time restraints with all the kickboxing and shit you do...I get it. And just to let you know even when you get knocked down you can always get back up you little shit.

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H5uWRjFsGc
[close]
You right, that's what I thought I was going to be doing with the 40th but I didn't think they were going to get as big as they did and honestly I was out of touch with the regiments outside of the main comp ones. We're disbanding when Yoloswag leaves in February (pretty sure), so then I'll be able to contribute more positively in the community by joining the RSL or something but I always feel bad when leaving a regiment so I generally tend to not do that. Some notable people have been leaving the 40th recently so I'm gonna stick it out to the end just like how it was when people abandoned the 92nd. I appreciate your kind/motivational words  ;D
[close]

I mean not just RSL I mean a totally different group.  A new group.  I used to do that a little bit. 2ndBRM and a few others here and there but you gotta do you though :)

You see you kinda have to find a new regiment to counter the fact you did kinda leave the PSG for a bandwagon reg  :-\ but I won't go into details about that now
I mean I'm kinda past my prime to be doing all that yanno? I'm basically "retired" as it is, just gotta go with the flow
And yeah it's not really something you can go into detail since you don't really know at all anybody in the PSG or had any inclination of how the situation was at the time. It's not like I turned my back on them, John and I trained them from the ground up for 2+ years and led them day in and day out for 4-5 events a week, you ever do that? It was time for me to step down long story short. John had assumed most of the leadership responsibility and I was continually decreasing in activity and interest for the game, I was and still am friends with the people in the PSG. Plus they went on to find success without me! Also the 92nd "stack" was gone in less than a month, I find it funny how people call this:
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axWVzCNiwQI
[close]
a bandwagon. People couldn't handle the disciplined/serious nature of the 92nd and besides you wouldn't be able to name anybody in the 92nd besides Coconut and I.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: PapaBean on December 12, 2019, 06:17:35 pm
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Spoiler
windy spent good years of his life crying on here about bandwagons only to join one  :'(

bend the knee to my moral high ground
yet another snake who acts nice on teamspeak but talks shit on FSE, seriously what is with all these pussies?
I was in the Nr23 (not a bandwagon) so I stayed loyal and joined them when they came back, not much choice for comp regs nowadays anyway, def not joining the LG, 93rd, or 29y lmao
reported btw

Excuse me? Do you honestly think you're too good to join my regiment which has been disbanded since Sunday? Well, you know what? We def don't want you anyways, consider your invitation rescinded indefinitely.

Awh Godfreid :'( I don't think I'm too good for your regiment I just wouldn't have fit well with your regiment, same goes with the LG, just when there's only 3-4 regiments left there's not much option in regard to what you prefer in a regiment
[close]

I mean you could always join a regiment that is not as good and help train them to get better.  We have more than 3-4 regiments out there in NA.  I mean we saw what you did with the PSG....but no I get it you know making new friends is hard plus you know time restraints with all the kickboxing and shit you do...I get it. And just to let you know even when you get knocked down you can always get back up you little shit.

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H5uWRjFsGc
[close]
You right, that's what I thought I was going to be doing with the 40th but I didn't think they were going to get as big as they did and honestly I was out of touch with the regiments outside of the main comp ones. We're disbanding when Yoloswag leaves in February (pretty sure), so then I'll be able to contribute more positively in the community by joining the RSL or something but I always feel bad when leaving a regiment so I generally tend to not do that. Some notable people have been leaving the 40th recently so I'm gonna stick it out to the end just like how it was when people abandoned the 92nd. I appreciate your kind/motivational words  ;D
[close]

I mean not just RSL I mean a totally different group.  A new group.  I used to do that a little bit. 2ndBRM and a few others here and there but you gotta do you though :)

You see you kinda have to find a new regiment to counter the fact you did kinda leave the PSG for a bandwagon reg  :-\ but I won't go into details about that now
I mean I'm kinda past my prime to be doing all that yanno? I'm basically "retired" as it is, just gotta go with the flow
And yeah it's not really something you can go into detail since you don't really know at all anybody in the PSG or had any inclination of how the situation was at the time. It's not like I turned my back on them, John and I trained them from the ground up for 2+ years and led them day in and day out for 4-5 events a week, you ever do that? It was time for me to step down long story short. John had assumed most of the leadership responsibility and I was continually decreasing in activity and interest for the game, I was and still am friends with the people in the PSG. Plus they went on to find success without me! Also the 92nd "stack" was gone in less than a month, I find it funny how people call this:
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axWVzCNiwQI
[close]
a bandwagon. You wouldn't be able to name anybody in the 92nd besides Coconut and I.
Sigh sadly I kinda do the know the details about the 92nd because you know you had Voakes and Lycan joined the 5th that was a sgt in in the 92nd oh and bobmikbooboo plus we can talk about how several other named players were in there (Redwall I believe was in there,Hellomoto, and Catbutts) .  92nd was a bandwagon regiment. It was, for a moment, the best regiment NA.  Thus I do give the title to the best regiment overall to the 92nd since they were the best on both the NA side and EU side.
With that being said, I don't really need to know the details about the PSG because, one again this is my perspective, you left them to join the 92nd.  Thats how it looks too to many people. 
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: BabyJesus on December 12, 2019, 06:21:11 pm
The 92nd was a bandwagon reg.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Fartknocker on December 12, 2019, 06:23:21 pm
bobmikbooboo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=031vKBPk5eA
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: PapaBean on December 12, 2019, 06:29:15 pm
bobmikbooboo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=031vKBPk5eA
Good guy honestly most of the lads from the land of Maple syrup were really cool guys. (Hellomoto, Lycan, Voakes, Bob,) Wonder what bob is up to now?
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Glenn on December 12, 2019, 06:50:58 pm
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Spoiler
windy spent good years of his life crying on here about bandwagons only to join one  :'(

bend the knee to my moral high ground
yet another snake who acts nice on teamspeak but talks shit on FSE, seriously what is with all these pussies?
I was in the Nr23 (not a bandwagon) so I stayed loyal and joined them when they came back, not much choice for comp regs nowadays anyway, def not joining the LG, 93rd, or 29y lmao
reported btw

Excuse me? Do you honestly think you're too good to join my regiment which has been disbanded since Sunday? Well, you know what? We def don't want you anyways, consider your invitation rescinded indefinitely.

Awh Godfreid :'( I don't think I'm too good for your regiment I just wouldn't have fit well with your regiment, same goes with the LG, just when there's only 3-4 regiments left there's not much option in regard to what you prefer in a regiment
[close]

I mean you could always join a regiment that is not as good and help train them to get better.  We have more than 3-4 regiments out there in NA.  I mean we saw what you did with the PSG....but no I get it you know making new friends is hard plus you know time restraints with all the kickboxing and shit you do...I get it. And just to let you know even when you get knocked down you can always get back up you little shit.

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H5uWRjFsGc
[close]
You right, that's what I thought I was going to be doing with the 40th but I didn't think they were going to get as big as they did and honestly I was out of touch with the regiments outside of the main comp ones. We're disbanding when Yoloswag leaves in February (pretty sure), so then I'll be able to contribute more positively in the community by joining the RSL or something but I always feel bad when leaving a regiment so I generally tend to not do that. Some notable people have been leaving the 40th recently so I'm gonna stick it out to the end just like how it was when people abandoned the 92nd. I appreciate your kind/motivational words  ;D
[close]

I mean not just RSL I mean a totally different group.  A new group.  I used to do that a little bit. 2ndBRM and a few others here and there but you gotta do you though :)

You see you kinda have to find a new regiment to counter the fact you did kinda leave the PSG for a bandwagon reg  :-\ but I won't go into details about that now
I mean I'm kinda past my prime to be doing all that yanno? I'm basically "retired" as it is, just gotta go with the flow
And yeah it's not really something you can go into detail since you don't really know at all anybody in the PSG or had any inclination of how the situation was at the time. It's not like I turned my back on them, John and I trained them from the ground up for 2+ years and led them day in and day out for 4-5 events a week, you ever do that? It was time for me to step down long story short. John had assumed most of the leadership responsibility and I was continually decreasing in activity and interest for the game, I was and still am friends with the people in the PSG. Plus they went on to find success without me! Also the 92nd "stack" was gone in less than a month, I find it funny how people call this:
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axWVzCNiwQI
[close]
a bandwagon. People couldn't handle the disciplined/serious nature of the 92nd and besides you wouldn't be able to name anybody in the 92nd besides Coconut and I.

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Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: ~NickCole~ on December 12, 2019, 06:56:21 pm
I remember when I was in PSG for a month before Wastee poached me into the Nr37
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Runepkyz on December 12, 2019, 06:59:59 pm
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Spoiler
windy spent good years of his life crying on here about bandwagons only to join one  :'(

bend the knee to my moral high ground
yet another snake who acts nice on teamspeak but talks shit on FSE, seriously what is with all these pussies?
I was in the Nr23 (not a bandwagon) so I stayed loyal and joined them when they came back, not much choice for comp regs nowadays anyway, def not joining the LG, 93rd, or 29y lmao
reported btw

Excuse me? Do you honestly think you're too good to join my regiment which has been disbanded since Sunday? Well, you know what? We def don't want you anyways, consider your invitation rescinded indefinitely.

Awh Godfreid :'( I don't think I'm too good for your regiment I just wouldn't have fit well with your regiment, same goes with the LG, just when there's only 3-4 regiments left there's not much option in regard to what you prefer in a regiment
[close]

I mean you could always join a regiment that is not as good and help train them to get better.  We have more than 3-4 regiments out there in NA.  I mean we saw what you did with the PSG....but no I get it you know making new friends is hard plus you know time restraints with all the kickboxing and shit you do...I get it. And just to let you know even when you get knocked down you can always get back up you little shit.

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H5uWRjFsGc
[close]
You right, that's what I thought I was going to be doing with the 40th but I didn't think they were going to get as big as they did and honestly I was out of touch with the regiments outside of the main comp ones. We're disbanding when Yoloswag leaves in February (pretty sure), so then I'll be able to contribute more positively in the community by joining the RSL or something but I always feel bad when leaving a regiment so I generally tend to not do that. Some notable people have been leaving the 40th recently so I'm gonna stick it out to the end just like how it was when people abandoned the 92nd. I appreciate your kind/motivational words  ;D
[close]

I mean not just RSL I mean a totally different group.  A new group.  I used to do that a little bit. 2ndBRM and a few others here and there but you gotta do you though :)

You see you kinda have to find a new regiment to counter the fact you did kinda leave the PSG for a bandwagon reg  :-\ but I won't go into details about that now
I mean I'm kinda past my prime to be doing all that yanno? I'm basically "retired" as it is, just gotta go with the flow
And yeah it's not really something you can go into detail since you don't really know at all anybody in the PSG or had any inclination of how the situation was at the time. It's not like I turned my back on them, John and I trained them from the ground up for 2+ years and led them day in and day out for 4-5 events a week, you ever do that? It was time for me to step down long story short. John had assumed most of the leadership responsibility and I was continually decreasing in activity and interest for the game, I was and still am friends with the people in the PSG. Plus they went on to find success without me! Also the 92nd "stack" was gone in less than a month, I find it funny how people call this:
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axWVzCNiwQI
[close]
a bandwagon. People couldn't handle the disciplined/serious nature of the 92nd and besides you wouldn't be able to name anybody in the 92nd besides Coconut and I.

Don’t forget to like comment and subscribe
Ahh, Glorious I must say. Smash that like button!
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Windflower on December 12, 2019, 07:12:40 pm
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Spoiler
windy spent good years of his life crying on here about bandwagons only to join one  :'(

bend the knee to my moral high ground
yet another snake who acts nice on teamspeak but talks shit on FSE, seriously what is with all these pussies?
I was in the Nr23 (not a bandwagon) so I stayed loyal and joined them when they came back, not much choice for comp regs nowadays anyway, def not joining the LG, 93rd, or 29y lmao
reported btw

Excuse me? Do you honestly think you're too good to join my regiment which has been disbanded since Sunday? Well, you know what? We def don't want you anyways, consider your invitation rescinded indefinitely.

Awh Godfreid :'( I don't think I'm too good for your regiment I just wouldn't have fit well with your regiment, same goes with the LG, just when there's only 3-4 regiments left there's not much option in regard to what you prefer in a regiment
[close]

I mean you could always join a regiment that is not as good and help train them to get better.  We have more than 3-4 regiments out there in NA.  I mean we saw what you did with the PSG....but no I get it you know making new friends is hard plus you know time restraints with all the kickboxing and shit you do...I get it. And just to let you know even when you get knocked down you can always get back up you little shit.

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H5uWRjFsGc
[close]
You right, that's what I thought I was going to be doing with the 40th but I didn't think they were going to get as big as they did and honestly I was out of touch with the regiments outside of the main comp ones. We're disbanding when Yoloswag leaves in February (pretty sure), so then I'll be able to contribute more positively in the community by joining the RSL or something but I always feel bad when leaving a regiment so I generally tend to not do that. Some notable people have been leaving the 40th recently so I'm gonna stick it out to the end just like how it was when people abandoned the 92nd. I appreciate your kind/motivational words  ;D
[close]

I mean not just RSL I mean a totally different group.  A new group.  I used to do that a little bit. 2ndBRM and a few others here and there but you gotta do you though :)

You see you kinda have to find a new regiment to counter the fact you did kinda leave the PSG for a bandwagon reg  :-\ but I won't go into details about that now
I mean I'm kinda past my prime to be doing all that yanno? I'm basically "retired" as it is, just gotta go with the flow
And yeah it's not really something you can go into detail since you don't really know at all anybody in the PSG or had any inclination of how the situation was at the time. It's not like I turned my back on them, John and I trained them from the ground up for 2+ years and led them day in and day out for 4-5 events a week, you ever do that? It was time for me to step down long story short. John had assumed most of the leadership responsibility and I was continually decreasing in activity and interest for the game, I was and still am friends with the people in the PSG. Plus they went on to find success without me! Also the 92nd "stack" was gone in less than a month, I find it funny how people call this:
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axWVzCNiwQI
[close]
a bandwagon. You wouldn't be able to name anybody in the 92nd besides Coconut and I.
[close]
Sigh sadly I kinda do the know the details about the 92nd because you know you had Voakes and Lycan joined the 5th that was a sgt in in the 92nd oh and bobmikbooboo plus we can talk about how several other named players were in there (Redwall I believe was in there,Hellomoto, and Catbutts) .  92nd was a bandwagon regiment. It was, for a moment, the best regiment NA.  Thus I do give the title to the best regiment overall to the 92nd since they were the best on both the NA side and EU side.
With that being said, I don't really need to know the details about the PSG because, one again this is my perspective, you left them to join the 92nd.  Thats how it looks too to many people.
And I just explained it to you so know you are informed about the PSG. The 92nd was stacked for about less than a month as I said, I think maybe ur thinking of the 92nd before it disbanded and reformed. Moto was passed his prime and trolled when he showed up, Redwall never came, Catbutts wasn't in the new 92nd, so you're definitely mixing them up.

bobmikbooboo

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=031vKBPk5eA
[close]
He's in the 40th and comes to events wym

I remember when I was in PSG for a month before Wastee poached me into the Nr37
PSG was pretty close into merging with the Nr37  :P
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: PapaBean on December 12, 2019, 07:16:50 pm
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windy spent good years of his life crying on here about bandwagons only to join one  :'(

bend the knee to my moral high ground
yet another snake who acts nice on teamspeak but talks shit on FSE, seriously what is with all these pussies?
I was in the Nr23 (not a bandwagon) so I stayed loyal and joined them when they came back, not much choice for comp regs nowadays anyway, def not joining the LG, 93rd, or 29y lmao
reported btw

Excuse me? Do you honestly think you're too good to join my regiment which has been disbanded since Sunday? Well, you know what? We def don't want you anyways, consider your invitation rescinded indefinitely.

Awh Godfreid :'( I don't think I'm too good for your regiment I just wouldn't have fit well with your regiment, same goes with the LG, just when there's only 3-4 regiments left there's not much option in regard to what you prefer in a regiment
[close]

I mean you could always join a regiment that is not as good and help train them to get better.  We have more than 3-4 regiments out there in NA.  I mean we saw what you did with the PSG....but no I get it you know making new friends is hard plus you know time restraints with all the kickboxing and shit you do...I get it. And just to let you know even when you get knocked down you can always get back up you little shit.

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H5uWRjFsGc
[close]
You right, that's what I thought I was going to be doing with the 40th but I didn't think they were going to get as big as they did and honestly I was out of touch with the regiments outside of the main comp ones. We're disbanding when Yoloswag leaves in February (pretty sure), so then I'll be able to contribute more positively in the community by joining the RSL or something but I always feel bad when leaving a regiment so I generally tend to not do that. Some notable people have been leaving the 40th recently so I'm gonna stick it out to the end just like how it was when people abandoned the 92nd. I appreciate your kind/motivational words  ;D
[close]

I mean not just RSL I mean a totally different group.  A new group.  I used to do that a little bit. 2ndBRM and a few others here and there but you gotta do you though :)

You see you kinda have to find a new regiment to counter the fact you did kinda leave the PSG for a bandwagon reg  :-\ but I won't go into details about that now
I mean I'm kinda past my prime to be doing all that yanno? I'm basically "retired" as it is, just gotta go with the flow
And yeah it's not really something you can go into detail since you don't really know at all anybody in the PSG or had any inclination of how the situation was at the time. It's not like I turned my back on them, John and I trained them from the ground up for 2+ years and led them day in and day out for 4-5 events a week, you ever do that? It was time for me to step down long story short. John had assumed most of the leadership responsibility and I was continually decreasing in activity and interest for the game, I was and still am friends with the people in the PSG. Plus they went on to find success without me! Also the 92nd "stack" was gone in less than a month, I find it funny how people call this:
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axWVzCNiwQI
[close]
a bandwagon. You wouldn't be able to name anybody in the 92nd besides Coconut and I.
[close]
Sigh sadly I kinda do the know the details about the 92nd because you know you had Voakes and Lycan joined the 5th that was a sgt in in the 92nd oh and bobmikbooboo plus we can talk about how several other named players were in there (Redwall I believe was in there,Hellomoto, and Catbutts) .  92nd was a bandwagon regiment. It was, for a moment, the best regiment NA.  Thus I do give the title to the best regiment overall to the 92nd since they were the best on both the NA side and EU side.
With that being said, I don't really need to know the details about the PSG because, one again this is my perspective, you left them to join the 92nd.  Thats how it looks too to many people.
And I just explained it to you so know you are informed about the PSG. The 92nd was stacked for about less than a month as I said, I think maybe ur thinking of the 92nd before it disbanded and reformed. Moto was passed his prime and trolled when he showed up, Redwall never came, Catbutts wasn't in the new 92nd, so you're definitely mixing them up.

bobmikbooboo

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=031vKBPk5eA
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He's in the 40th and comes to events wym

What I am saying is that it was stacked then and it became stacked somewhat again when it reformed.  You are defining a band wagon regiment as being good.  I am saying that a band wagon regiment is a regiment in which people join either by coming out of retirement or leaving another regiment for that one.  This is indeed what you are saying happened.  The 92nd disbanded the first time. It came back. You rejoined. This is an example of a bandwagon.  You did what you call other people out for all the time. 
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Windflower on December 12, 2019, 07:23:41 pm
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windy spent good years of his life crying on here about bandwagons only to join one  :'(

bend the knee to my moral high ground
yet another snake who acts nice on teamspeak but talks shit on FSE, seriously what is with all these pussies?
I was in the Nr23 (not a bandwagon) so I stayed loyal and joined them when they came back, not much choice for comp regs nowadays anyway, def not joining the LG, 93rd, or 29y lmao
reported btw

Excuse me? Do you honestly think you're too good to join my regiment which has been disbanded since Sunday? Well, you know what? We def don't want you anyways, consider your invitation rescinded indefinitely.

Awh Godfreid :'( I don't think I'm too good for your regiment I just wouldn't have fit well with your regiment, same goes with the LG, just when there's only 3-4 regiments left there's not much option in regard to what you prefer in a regiment
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I mean you could always join a regiment that is not as good and help train them to get better.  We have more than 3-4 regiments out there in NA.  I mean we saw what you did with the PSG....but no I get it you know making new friends is hard plus you know time restraints with all the kickboxing and shit you do...I get it. And just to let you know even when you get knocked down you can always get back up you little shit.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H5uWRjFsGc
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You right, that's what I thought I was going to be doing with the 40th but I didn't think they were going to get as big as they did and honestly I was out of touch with the regiments outside of the main comp ones. We're disbanding when Yoloswag leaves in February (pretty sure), so then I'll be able to contribute more positively in the community by joining the RSL or something but I always feel bad when leaving a regiment so I generally tend to not do that. Some notable people have been leaving the 40th recently so I'm gonna stick it out to the end just like how it was when people abandoned the 92nd. I appreciate your kind/motivational words  ;D
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I mean not just RSL I mean a totally different group.  A new group.  I used to do that a little bit. 2ndBRM and a few others here and there but you gotta do you though :)

You see you kinda have to find a new regiment to counter the fact you did kinda leave the PSG for a bandwagon reg  :-\ but I won't go into details about that now
I mean I'm kinda past my prime to be doing all that yanno? I'm basically "retired" as it is, just gotta go with the flow
And yeah it's not really something you can go into detail since you don't really know at all anybody in the PSG or had any inclination of how the situation was at the time. It's not like I turned my back on them, John and I trained them from the ground up for 2+ years and led them day in and day out for 4-5 events a week, you ever do that? It was time for me to step down long story short. John had assumed most of the leadership responsibility and I was continually decreasing in activity and interest for the game, I was and still am friends with the people in the PSG. Plus they went on to find success without me! Also the 92nd "stack" was gone in less than a month, I find it funny how people call this:
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a bandwagon. You wouldn't be able to name anybody in the 92nd besides Coconut and I.
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Sigh sadly I kinda do the know the details about the 92nd because you know you had Voakes and Lycan joined the 5th that was a sgt in in the 92nd oh and bobmikbooboo plus we can talk about how several other named players were in there (Redwall I believe was in there,Hellomoto, and Catbutts) .  92nd was a bandwagon regiment. It was, for a moment, the best regiment NA.  Thus I do give the title to the best regiment overall to the 92nd since they were the best on both the NA side and EU side.
With that being said, I don't really need to know the details about the PSG because, one again this is my perspective, you left them to join the 92nd.  Thats how it looks too to many people.
And I just explained it to you so know you are informed about the PSG. The 92nd was stacked for about less than a month as I said, I think maybe ur thinking of the 92nd before it disbanded and reformed. Moto was passed his prime and trolled when he showed up, Redwall never came, Catbutts wasn't in the new 92nd, so you're definitely mixing them up.

bobmikbooboo

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=031vKBPk5eA
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He's in the 40th and comes to events wym
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What I am saying is that it was stacked then and it became stacked somewhat again when it reformed.  You are defining a band wagon regiment as being good.  I am saying that a band wagon regiment is a regiment in which people join either by coming out of retirement or leaving another regiment for that one.  This is indeed what you are saying happened.  The 92nd disbanded the first time. It came back. You rejoined. This is an example of a bandwagon.  You did what you call other people out for all the time.
No I never said any of that, you are putting words into my mouth. A bandwagon regiment is only defined by the bandwagon phenomena: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandwagon_effect , it's more for the reason you join the regiment to begin with not that it's defined by being retired and leaving a regiment for another, that has nothing to do with it. You are also changing your answer now, "somewhat" stacked? We were losing to League 2 regiments..
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: DrunkenSpartan on December 12, 2019, 08:12:23 pm
A bandwagon regiment is only defined by the bandwagon phenomena: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandwagon_effect , it's more for the reason you join the regiment to begin with

The Bandwagon Effect typically refers to belief systems in the context of social conformity. When we joined the 71st reform under RussianFury most of us did it because we wanted to have fun and see what it would be like, not because we believed in the superiority of anything and everything 71st (Vae Victis ree). In another example, the 93rd reform in 2018 was mostly just Nick messaging his entire friends list and convincing something like 80 people to follow him personally because honestly Nick is a nice guy and funny as hell. I can’t think of a lot of people who joined because to not do so would have violated some quasi social norms. I’m sure somebody in that 80 player group probably thought like that but it wasn’t anyone I knew there personally.

Asch’s conformity experiments don’t apply here either. Nobody I can recall was ever socially pressured to join or stay in the supposed bandwagon regiments I was a part of. Maybe it happened but it was rare enough that I can’t find an example off the top of my head, at least for the regiments I was a part of. The article you reference that supposedly proves your point (spoiler alert: swing and a miss) states that information cascades cause fragile behavior traits and lead to fads, but I’d be more than hesitant to call most of the “bandwagons” I was a part of a fad. 3eVolt was well established by the time band wagoners like myself joined, and stayed established for a time  after stunning losses to the LG. The 71st name carries enough weight that when it reformed people such as  Tammo and Who~ came out of the woodwork for a groupfight or two. And as previously mentioned the 93rd of 2018 was basically NickCole’s entire friends list transposed onto a regiment roster. Joining a stacked regiment after considering all options  because you want to learn more about melee and want to be competitive or want to play with friends that compose the stack doesn’t equate to the Bandwagon Effect. Here, I’ll put it in terms you can actually understand:

NW Boondwagoons =/= Bandwagon Effect

Could it be considered groupthink to join a stacked regiment? Debatably, but it’s notable that groupthink is a separate phenomenon from the Bandwagon Effect in the context of psychology or sociology.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Windflower on December 12, 2019, 08:16:19 pm
A bandwagon regiment is only defined by the bandwagon phenomena: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandwagon_effect , it's more for the reason you join the regiment to begin with

The Bandwagon Effect typically refers to belief systems in the context of social conformity. When we joined the 71st reform under RussianFury most of us did it because we wanted to have fun and see what it would be like, not because we believed in the superiority of anything and everything 71st (Vae Victis ree). In another example, the 93rd reform in 2018 was mostly just Nick messaging his entire friends list and convincing something like 80 people to follow him personally because honestly Nick is a nice guy and funny as hell. I can’t think of a lot of people who joined because to not do so would have violated some quasi social norms. I’m sure somebody in that 80 player group probably thought like that but it wasn’t anyone I knew there personally.

Asch’s conformity experiments don’t apply here either. Nobody I can recall was ever socially pressured to join or stay in the supposed bandwagon regiments I was a part of. Maybe it happened but it was rare enough that I can’t find an example off the top of my head, at least for the regiments I was a part of. The article you reference that supposedly proves your point (spoiler alert: swing and a miss) states that information cascades cause fragile behavior traits and lead to fads, but I’d be more than hesitant to call most of the “bandwagons” I was a part of a fad. 3eVolt was well established by the time band wagoners like myself joined, and stayed established for a time  after stunning losses to the LG. The 71st name carries enough weight that when it reformed people such as  Tammo and Who~ came out of the woodwork for a groupfight or two. And as previously mentioned the 93rd of 2018 was basically NickCole’s entire friends list transposed onto a regiment roster. Joining a stacked regiment after considering all options  because you want to learn more about melee and want to be competitive or want to play with friends that compose the stack doesn’t equate to the Bandwagon Effect. Here, I’ll put it in terms you can actually understand:

NW Boondwagoons =/= Bandwagon Effect

Could it be considered groupthink to join a stacked regiment? Debatably, but it’s notable that groupthink is a separate phenomenon from the Bandwagon Effect in the context of psychology or sociology.
(https://i.imgur.com/K0ovm9H.gif)
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: DrunkenSpartan on December 12, 2019, 08:20:44 pm
A bandwagon regiment is only defined by the bandwagon phenomena: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandwagon_effect , it's more for the reason you join the regiment to begin with

P.S. Phenomena is the plural version of phenomenon, so it should be stated as “the bandwagon phenomenon”, although really it’s more of an effect since the alternative term is already called “cultural phenomenon”. I would have thought someone with a degree in English or whatever would have known simple 4th grader stuff like this, but, as you know,

Life’s a mystery innit   ::)
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Fartknocker on December 12, 2019, 10:46:21 pm
bobmikbooboo

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He's in the 40th and comes to events wym

I don't
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: ShintoSkookum on December 13, 2019, 12:46:02 am
why can’t we all be friends :(
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: PapaBean on December 13, 2019, 02:14:36 pm
why can’t we all be friends :(

I am just curious as to why people call others out for bandwagoning but then actually do it themselves. Bandwagon regiments are just a thing now.  Unless some of these people join casual regiments, which lets be honest, most people here are too insecure with making new friends to do that, the game will continue to die.  Its part of the reason why the early years of NW were so good.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Rutger Müller on December 13, 2019, 05:34:52 pm
tfw you're so old you thought people were talking about Locusts' 40th
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Professor on December 13, 2019, 07:32:12 pm
2012 to 2016 was when i was most active im the one that nw so much fun made it fun
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Yvrul on December 14, 2019, 02:45:10 am
I miss the IV Korps
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: antslimey on December 14, 2019, 03:11:36 am
2016 was my favorite year because at a time where it was nearly impossible to create a new competitive regiment and become established in the comp community I started the AEF and after months of hard work we started to break in. It did take until I got KnightofSaintJohn to join that AEF core base and a lot of awesome PSG guys came over and we created one hell of a reg.
It was such an adventure to not know what the fuck I was doing with a group of guys trying to break into the small remaining competitive regs and be able to hold our own and in fact I dont believe for most if not all of 2016 we were able to do much.

TL:DR Making AEF in 2016 and trying to grow was like going to the gym as a weak scrawny 150 pound kid trying to benchpress 300 pound weights. Because the only good regs had advantages and all the other regs were way to bad to fight us. So we legit for a year got rekt every single day.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Norwegian13 on December 15, 2019, 01:14:27 pm
I would appreciate it if the discussion in this thread would remain on-topic. Please refrain from quarrels and disputes. Take it to PMs or off this forum.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Steinmann on December 15, 2019, 01:22:32 pm
thic
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Fartknocker on December 15, 2019, 11:21:08 pm
Did I miss some awesome argument and it all got deleted?
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Windflower on December 16, 2019, 12:06:54 am
Did I miss some awesome argument and it all got deleted?
nah just petty quarreling, the last 2 pages did get deleted though
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: antslimey on December 16, 2019, 04:18:56 am
Did I miss some awesome argument and it all got deleted?
nah just petty quarreling, the last 2 pages did get deleted though
Quality fse posts!
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: DrunkenSpartan on December 16, 2019, 04:35:16 am
Did I miss some awesome argument and it all got deleted?
nah just petty quarreling, the last 2 pages did get deleted though
Quality fse posts!
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: suns on December 16, 2019, 04:54:36 am
ooga booga

(https://i.imgur.com/gv5XZYX.png)

ooga booga
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Windflower on December 16, 2019, 05:32:06 am
ooga booga

(https://i.imgur.com/gv5XZYX.png)

ooga booga
haha ur so funny suns XD
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Risk_ on December 16, 2019, 09:11:09 am
ooga booga

(https://i.imgur.com/gv5XZYX.png)

ooga booga

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhJ7O56rPdU
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Professor on December 16, 2019, 07:50:49 pm
thic

hell yeah brother
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: William on December 16, 2019, 08:28:55 pm
I recently attended an LB with the LG after years of inactivity and it's definitely a whole new world. When I last attended the LG, Russian and Waste still had a pretty commanding aura, but this time around it was like the teamspeak was always chatty and I couldn't even hear the orders a lot. This is a far cry from the priority speaker times of older regiments and no chatting until the round was over.

I personally just attribute it to the fact that we were all a lot younger with way more time to devote to games. You had leaders who were really interesting and intriguing and friendships that kept you on teamspeak all day. I remember hanging with Karth, Tico, Mack, etc. Each one had a really cool style of leading that each suited their players strengths and weaknesses.

As pointed out earlier, I think updates would have helped, or better yet, changing the meta to keep the competitive scene changing. Look at CSGO for an example on how simple meta changes have brought fundamental changes to the game that kept people interested.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Rutger Müller on December 16, 2019, 09:39:21 pm
I personally just attribute it to the fact that we were all a lot younger with way more time to devote to games. You had leaders who were really interesting and intriguing and friendships that kept you on teamspeak all day. I remember hanging with Karth, Tico, Mack, etc. Each one had a really cool style of leading that each suited their players strengths and weaknesses.
tfw your weakness is everything so you gotta find the farthest hill away from the enemy spawn to delay the round
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Golden. on December 16, 2019, 09:41:42 pm
The fact it wasn't tainted by the scum of tale worlds.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: ~NickCole~ on December 16, 2019, 10:21:47 pm
It wouldn’t surprise me Will if it was Cytiuz talking half the damn linebattle.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: DrunkenSpartan on December 16, 2019, 11:03:05 pm
Hard to stay loyal to a game which frankly hasn’t aged well, either. Between the sideblock glitch, the teleporting, the animation glitches (not the animation cancels, the other ones), FSE patching most of the fun glitches (flag/artillery speed hacks anyone?), the slow map download time, graphics which struggled to compete back in 2012 (skyrim came out in 2011 and looks twice as good) but have aged worse than Mickey Rourke, the slow up stab speed which wasn’t always the case, the antiquated server lobby, the lack of weapon/armor variety (rip short British bayonets and Prussian head armor), the removal of sailor armor, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah this game aged poorly. I’m sure I missed a lot of things but if you put an all encompassing list of the “things that might have been” down for NW it would warrant admission into the library of Congress  :-\
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Sgt.Winters on December 16, 2019, 11:31:51 pm
Bannerlord won't save us either, it's time to move on. Get out while you can and don't look back.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Fartknocker on December 17, 2019, 12:43:57 am
I recently attended an LB with the LG after years of inactivity and it's definitely a whole new world. When I last attended the LG, Russian and Waste still had a pretty commanding aura, but this time around it was like the teamspeak was always chatty and I couldn't even hear the orders a lot. This is a far cry from the priority speaker times of older regiments and no chatting until the round was over.

I personally just attribute it to the fact that we were all a lot younger with way more time to devote to games. You had leaders who were really interesting and intriguing and friendships that kept you on teamspeak all day. I remember hanging with Karth, Tico, Mack, etc. Each one had a really cool style of leading that each suited their players strengths and weaknesses.

As pointed out earlier, I think updates would have helped, or better yet, changing the meta to keep the competitive scene changing. Look at CSGO for an example on how simple meta changes have brought fundamental changes to the game that kept people interested.

Project Reality with the 63e gang was always great.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: PapaBean on December 17, 2019, 10:34:20 pm
I feel like regiments that actually had a semblance of discipline to them made the game fun.  For me it brought me back to the days in the 29th or when I used to have my own regiments.  On top of that you had people who knew how to actually run events....I look around now and well...most of the decent events are casual. 
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Rutger Müller on December 18, 2019, 12:03:34 am
29th got hate but cant argue how impressive they were (obviously not skill wise) but I enjoy regiment aesthetics and discipline
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Wastee on December 18, 2019, 12:08:28 am
I feel like regiments that actually had a semblance of discipline to them made the game fun.  For me it brought me back to the days in the 29th or when I used to have my own regiments.  On top of that you had people who knew how to actually run events....I look around now and well...most of the decent events are casual.
You get tired of 20 min of either spawn camping or sitting in dead chat after awhile
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Stroke0fd34th on December 18, 2019, 12:14:50 am
I feel like regiments that actually had a semblance of discipline to them made the game fun.  For me it brought me back to the days in the 29th or when I used to have my own regiments.  On top of that you had people who knew how to actually run events....I look around now and well...most of the decent events are casual.
You get tired of 20 min of either spawn camping or sitting in dead chat after awhile

Basically this. Sieges aren't too bad cause you can respawn, so you don't have to sit in dead chat + you're pretty much doing SOMETHING at all times. 29y did one for a while before disbanding, was a good time.

Casual linebattles though, they're alright at first, but they get old real fast.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Wastee on December 18, 2019, 12:16:54 am
SA events are fun, run stop shoot charge. If this fails to end the round 3 min in it's an all charge
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: BabyJesus on December 18, 2019, 12:21:50 am
I feel like regiments that actually had a semblance of discipline to them made the game fun.  For me it brought me back to the days in the 29th or when I used to have my own regiments.  On top of that you had people who knew how to actually run events....I look around now and well...most of the decent events are casual.
your own events weren’t too great tho
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: PapaBean on December 18, 2019, 01:16:00 am
I feel like regiments that actually had a semblance of discipline to them made the game fun.  For me it brought me back to the days in the 29th or when I used to have my own regiments.  On top of that you had people who knew how to actually run events....I look around now and well...most of the decent events are casual.
your own events weren’t too great tho

Which one? 63e events? NANWL? I am talking about events like Kolakhans or Eatjello. On top of that, you are welcome to your perspective, I respect that but most of my events that I ran in the casual scene went fairly well.  I used my own custom maps which most people loved.  I used rules that every regiment agreed on.  I am not referencing 63e events here btw.  Now if we want to go over why I think that I ran a very successful season of NANWL we can but I feel like that would be a better conversation to have either in pms or on steam.  Considering you don't consider them to be apart of what made 2012-2016 very fun ;) gotta stay on topic champ.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Sgt.Winters on December 18, 2019, 02:30:31 am
I feel like regiments that actually had a semblance of discipline to them made the game fun.  For me it brought me back to the days in the 29th or when I used to have my own regiments.  On top of that you had people who knew how to actually run events....I look around now and well...most of the decent events are casual.
your own events weren’t too great tho

Which one? 63e events? NANWL? I am talking about events like Kolakhans or Eatjello. On top of that, you are welcome to your perspective, I respect that but most of my events that I ran in the casual scene went fairly well.  I used my own custom maps which most people loved.  I used rules that every regiment agreed on.  I am not referencing 63e events here btw.  Now if we want to go over why I think that I ran a very successful season of NANWL we can but I feel like that would be a better conversation to have either in pms or on steam.  Considering you don't consider them to be apart of what made 2012-2016 very fun ;) gotta stay on topic champ.
Idk about that. Season 6 was the last NANWL where you could consider the competitive scene as diverse and it felt stale halfway through. It was pretty much over after that.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: PapaBean on December 18, 2019, 02:58:26 am
I feel like regiments that actually had a semblance of discipline to them made the game fun.  For me it brought me back to the days in the 29th or when I used to have my own regiments.  On top of that you had people who knew how to actually run events....I look around now and well...most of the decent events are casual.
your own events weren’t too great tho

Which one? 63e events? NANWL? I am talking about events like Kolakhans or Eatjello. On top of that, you are welcome to your perspective, I respect that but most of my events that I ran in the casual scene went fairly well.  I used my own custom maps which most people loved.  I used rules that every regiment agreed on.  I am not referencing 63e events here btw.  Now if we want to go over why I think that I ran a very successful season of NANWL we can but I feel like that would be a better conversation to have either in pms or on steam.  Considering you don't consider them to be apart of what made 2012-2016 very fun ;) gotta stay on topic champ.
Idk about that. Season 6 was the last NANWL where you could consider the competitive scene as diverse and it felt stale halfway through. It was pretty much over after that.
I ran season 6.  Its not my job to keep it fun, rather it was my job to run the league.  The entire reason it was diverse was thanks to me. (yeah i am taking that credit because I went around to each regiment and got them to sign up plus I went over the rules with them. ) You know the beauty about people is that some will say that it was really good and others wont.  For it being stale well perhaps if I had kept PSG and USMC in league one than it would have been much more fun.  Sadly JDF and others came to me begging to be switched.  To simply say its Papabeans fault it went stale...well my influence was on setting up that season and making sure it ran smoothly.  If I recall, IF I had shown bias than the 63e would have won at the end of the season since they had the most points, however to make it more interesting we decided to do a winner take all.  Meaning the top four regiments of league one would 1v1 each other again for the title.  And if I recall correctly 3evolt won, yes? So if anything I would understand that the overall time spent on the league was far too long.  Considering league 3 had ended like a month or two before the end of the whole thing.  However, season 6 was hands down the last time the NA side of the community has shown up as much as they did to a event on the competitive side.  The fact that because of season 5 having 1 league and Season 6 had 3 leagues, I increased player participation within the competitive community tremendously.  Not a single person on here can claim from the NA side they have brought more casual regiments to a competitive event. 

Sorry for flexing fellas but like:

https://youtu.be/DzfX0T4LDD8
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Wastee on December 18, 2019, 03:02:10 am
S7 had some competition

S9 was fun
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Sgt.Winters on December 18, 2019, 03:34:29 am
I feel like regiments that actually had a semblance of discipline to them made the game fun.  For me it brought me back to the days in the 29th or when I used to have my own regiments.  On top of that you had people who knew how to actually run events....I look around now and well...most of the decent events are casual.
your own events weren’t too great tho

Which one? 63e events? NANWL? I am talking about events like Kolakhans or Eatjello. On top of that, you are welcome to your perspective, I respect that but most of my events that I ran in the casual scene went fairly well.  I used my own custom maps which most people loved.  I used rules that every regiment agreed on.  I am not referencing 63e events here btw.  Now if we want to go over why I think that I ran a very successful season of NANWL we can but I feel like that would be a better conversation to have either in pms or on steam.  Considering you don't consider them to be apart of what made 2012-2016 very fun ;) gotta stay on topic champ.
Idk about that. Season 6 was the last NANWL where you could consider the competitive scene as diverse and it felt stale halfway through. It was pretty much over after that.
I ran season 6.  Its not my job to keep it fun, rather it was my job to run the league.  The entire reason it was diverse was thanks to me. (yeah i am taking that credit because I went around to each regiment and got them to sign up plus I went over the rules with them. ) You know the beauty about people is that some will say that it was really good and others wont.  For it being stale well perhaps if I had kept PSG and USMC in league one than it would have been much more fun.  Sadly JDF and others came to me begging to be switched.  To simply say its Papabeans fault it went stale...well my influence was on setting up that season and making sure it ran smoothly.  If I recall, IF I had shown bias than the 63e would have won at the end of the season since they had the most points, however to make it more interesting we decided to do a winner take all.  Meaning the top four regiments of league one would 1v1 each other again for the title.  And if I recall correctly 3evolt won, yes? So if anything I would understand that the overall time spent on the league was far too long.  Considering league 3 had ended like a month or two before the end of the whole thing.  However, season 6 was hands down the last time the NA side of the community has shown up as much as they did to a event on the competitive side.  The fact that because of season 5 having 1 league and Season 6 had 3 leagues, I increased player participation within the competitive community tremendously.  Not a single person on here can claim from the NA side they have brought more casual regiments to a competitive event. 

Sorry for flexing fellas but like:

https://youtu.be/DzfX0T4LDD8
While I don't doubt that you had some influence over the amount of regiments in Season 6, saying you had a major impact is debatable. Comparing it to the performance of Season 5 is setting a rather low bar as well. It was legitimately the fucking worst season of NANWL; the bastard child of the group. Karth decided to fly away, Beech fucked off to god knows where, and Cheesey was desperate to even hold anything together. We went weeks without a single notice at the start because Karth responded to zero messages, and so began the cycle of sitting around, doing literally nothing. There were maybe 5 matches for a regiment for that whole season, and half of them fucking dropped due to scheduling differences and piss poor communication. No one wanted to do that, and most were convinced that was it for NW. Of course, once we got over our teenage girl tantrums, everyone decided to come back and have one last fucking orgy of cancer. Season 6 was definitely the last hurrah, but calling it one of the more exciting seasons is stretching it. It was by no means your fault, we were just tired of this abomination and wanted to finally end it.



Also, the USMC would have been gangbanged to the fourth dimension in League 1, no question. We were a group of bot fighting morons with the intellectual capacity and attention span of fucking goldfish. We could barely make it through the season, beat the 45e by pure luck, and then proceeded to get raped by the PSG. If you spent more than 20 minutes in our TS during an event and watched us train, you would have put us in League 3. 45e and PSG in League 1? Sure, but not the USMC, not by a longshot.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: PapaBean on December 18, 2019, 04:00:16 am
Spoiler
I feel like regiments that actually had a semblance of discipline to them made the game fun.  For me it brought me back to the days in the 29th or when I used to have my own regiments.  On top of that you had people who knew how to actually run events....I look around now and well...most of the decent events are casual.
your own events weren’t too great tho

Which one? 63e events? NANWL? I am talking about events like Kolakhans or Eatjello. On top of that, you are welcome to your perspective, I respect that but most of my events that I ran in the casual scene went fairly well.  I used my own custom maps which most people loved.  I used rules that every regiment agreed on.  I am not referencing 63e events here btw.  Now if we want to go over why I think that I ran a very successful season of NANWL we can but I feel like that would be a better conversation to have either in pms or on steam.  Considering you don't consider them to be apart of what made 2012-2016 very fun ;) gotta stay on topic champ.
Idk about that. Season 6 was the last NANWL where you could consider the competitive scene as diverse and it felt stale halfway through. It was pretty much over after that.
I ran season 6.  Its not my job to keep it fun, rather it was my job to run the league.  The entire reason it was diverse was thanks to me. (yeah i am taking that credit because I went around to each regiment and got them to sign up plus I went over the rules with them. ) You know the beauty about people is that some will say that it was really good and others wont.  For it being stale well perhaps if I had kept PSG and USMC in league one than it would have been much more fun.  Sadly JDF and others came to me begging to be switched.  To simply say its Papabeans fault it went stale...well my influence was on setting up that season and making sure it ran smoothly.  If I recall, IF I had shown bias than the 63e would have won at the end of the season since they had the most points, however to make it more interesting we decided to do a winner take all.  Meaning the top four regiments of league one would 1v1 each other again for the title.  And if I recall correctly 3evolt won, yes? So if anything I would understand that the overall time spent on the league was far too long.  Considering league 3 had ended like a month or two before the end of the whole thing.  However, season 6 was hands down the last time the NA side of the community has shown up as much as they did to a event on the competitive side.  The fact that because of season 5 having 1 league and Season 6 had 3 leagues, I increased player participation within the competitive community tremendously.  Not a single person on here can claim from the NA side they have brought more casual regiments to a competitive event. 

Sorry for flexing fellas but like:

https://youtu.be/DzfX0T4LDD8
While I don't doubt that you had some influence over the amount of regiments in Season 6, saying you had a major impact is debatable. Comparing it to the performance of Season 5 is setting a rather low bar as well. It was legitimately the fucking worst season of NANWL; the bastard child of the group. Karth decided to fly away, Beech fucked off to god knows where, and Cheesey was desperate to even hold anything together. We went weeks without a single notice at the start because Karth responded to zero messages, and so began the cycle of sitting around, doing literally nothing. There were maybe 5 matches for a regiment for that whole season, and half of them fucking dropped due to scheduling differences and piss poor communication. No one wanted to do that, and most were convinced that was it for NW. Of course, once we got over our teenage girl tantrums, everyone decided to come back and have one last fucking orgy of cancer. Season 6 was definitely the last hurrah, but calling it one of the more exciting seasons is stretching it. It was by no means your fault, we were just tired of this abomination and wanted to finally end it.



Also, the USMC would have been gangbanged to the fourth dimension in League 1, no question. We were a group of bot fighting morons with the intellectual capacity and attention span of fucking goldfish. We could barely make it through the season, beat the 45e by pure luck, and then proceeded to get raped by the PSG. If you spent more than 20 minutes in our TS during an event and watched us train, you would have put us in League 3. 45e and PSG in League 1? Sure, but not the USMC, not by a longshot.
[close]

You keep saying "we".  Lets get a few things straight about that season of league.  The following regiments would not have touched league had I not talked to them:
4th Kings German Artillery
70th
1st Irish Brigade
84th York & Lancaster Regiment of Foot EU / NA
1stRM
58th Regiment of foot
21st (Royal North British Fusiliers) Royal Regiment of Foot
19e
17th Finnish LifeGuard Regiment
16th Middlesex (London Irish) Rifle Volunteer Corps
13th Foreign Legion
79th "Queens Own" Cameron Highlanders
104th
22nd

Yes winters all of these regiments would not have touched the comp side had I not talked to them.  I am sure of that.  I am saying that because of the amount of time and effort that I put into it, the return for everyone was much greater than what had been anticipated.  While I am glad you have your perspective, you wont change mine and those that had a really fun time in that season. 

I am glad that USMC comment got under ya skin a little bit ;) gotta make sure the JDF fan boys still are out there.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Runepkyz on December 18, 2019, 04:07:25 am
I feel like regiments that actually had a semblance of discipline to them made the game fun.  For me it brought me back to the days in the 29th or when I used to have my own regiments.  On top of that you had people who knew how to actually run events....I look around now and well...most of the decent events are casual.
your own events weren’t too great tho

Which one? 63e events? NANWL? I am talking about events like Kolakhans or Eatjello. On top of that, you are welcome to your perspective, I respect that but most of my events that I ran in the casual scene went fairly well.  I used my own custom maps which most people loved.  I used rules that every regiment agreed on.  I am not referencing 63e events here btw.  Now if we want to go over why I think that I ran a very successful season of NANWL we can but I feel like that would be a better conversation to have either in pms or on steam.  Considering you don't consider them to be apart of what made 2012-2016 very fun ;) gotta stay on topic champ.
Idk about that. Season 6 was the last NANWL where you could consider the competitive scene as diverse and it felt stale halfway through. It was pretty much over after that.
I ran season 6.  Its not my job to keep it fun, rather it was my job to run the league.  The entire reason it was diverse was thanks to me. (yeah i am taking that credit because I went around to each regiment and got them to sign up plus I went over the rules with them. ) You know the beauty about people is that some will say that it was really good and others wont.  For it being stale well perhaps if I had kept PSG and USMC in league one than it would have been much more fun.  Sadly JDF and others came to me begging to be switched.  To simply say its Papabeans fault it went stale...well my influence was on setting up that season and making sure it ran smoothly.  If I recall, IF I had shown bias than the 63e would have won at the end of the season since they had the most points, however to make it more interesting we decided to do a winner take all.  Meaning the top four regiments of league one would 1v1 each other again for the title.  And if I recall correctly 3evolt won, yes? So if anything I would understand that the overall time spent on the league was far too long.  Considering league 3 had ended like a month or two before the end of the whole thing.  However, season 6 was hands down the last time the NA side of the community has shown up as much as they did to a event on the competitive side.  The fact that because of season 5 having 1 league and Season 6 had 3 leagues, I increased player participation within the competitive community tremendously.  Not a single person on here can claim from the NA side they have brought more casual regiments to a competitive event. 

Sorry for flexing fellas but like:

https://youtu.be/DzfX0T4LDD8
While I don't doubt that you had some influence over the amount of regiments in Season 6, saying you had a major impact is debatable. Comparing it to the performance of Season 5 is setting a rather low bar as well. It was legitimately the fucking worst season of NANWL; the bastard child of the group. Karth decided to fly away, Beech fucked off to god knows where, and Cheesey was desperate to even hold anything together. We went weeks without a single notice at the start because Karth responded to zero messages, and so began the cycle of sitting around, doing literally nothing. There were maybe 5 matches for a regiment for that whole season, and half of them fucking dropped due to scheduling differences and piss poor communication. No one wanted to do that, and most were convinced that was it for NW. Of course, once we got over our teenage girl tantrums, everyone decided to come back and have one last fucking orgy of cancer. Season 6 was definitely the last hurrah, but calling it one of the more exciting seasons is stretching it. It was by no means your fault, we were just tired of this abomination and wanted to finally end it.



Also, the USMC would have been gangbanged to the fourth dimension in League 1, no question. We were a group of bot fighting morons with the intellectual capacity and attention span of fucking goldfish. We could barely make it through the season, beat the 45e by pure luck, and then proceeded to get raped by the PSG. If you spent more than 20 minutes in our TS during an event and watched us train, you would have put us in League 3. 45e and PSG in League 1? Sure, but not the USMC, not by a longshot.
The only reason PSG beat USMC was cause I wasnt there for that event obviously. You out of all people should know this Winters.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: |Viper| on December 18, 2019, 04:20:50 am
#REFORMPSG
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Sgt.Winters on December 18, 2019, 04:20:57 am
Spoiler
I feel like regiments that actually had a semblance of discipline to them made the game fun.  For me it brought me back to the days in the 29th or when I used to have my own regiments.  On top of that you had people who knew how to actually run events....I look around now and well...most of the decent events are casual.
your own events weren’t too great tho

Which one? 63e events? NANWL? I am talking about events like Kolakhans or Eatjello. On top of that, you are welcome to your perspective, I respect that but most of my events that I ran in the casual scene went fairly well.  I used my own custom maps which most people loved.  I used rules that every regiment agreed on.  I am not referencing 63e events here btw.  Now if we want to go over why I think that I ran a very successful season of NANWL we can but I feel like that would be a better conversation to have either in pms or on steam.  Considering you don't consider them to be apart of what made 2012-2016 very fun ;) gotta stay on topic champ.
Idk about that. Season 6 was the last NANWL where you could consider the competitive scene as diverse and it felt stale halfway through. It was pretty much over after that.
I ran season 6.  Its not my job to keep it fun, rather it was my job to run the league.  The entire reason it was diverse was thanks to me. (yeah i am taking that credit because I went around to each regiment and got them to sign up plus I went over the rules with them. ) You know the beauty about people is that some will say that it was really good and others wont.  For it being stale well perhaps if I had kept PSG and USMC in league one than it would have been much more fun.  Sadly JDF and others came to me begging to be switched.  To simply say its Papabeans fault it went stale...well my influence was on setting up that season and making sure it ran smoothly.  If I recall, IF I had shown bias than the 63e would have won at the end of the season since they had the most points, however to make it more interesting we decided to do a winner take all.  Meaning the top four regiments of league one would 1v1 each other again for the title.  And if I recall correctly 3evolt won, yes? So if anything I would understand that the overall time spent on the league was far too long.  Considering league 3 had ended like a month or two before the end of the whole thing.  However, season 6 was hands down the last time the NA side of the community has shown up as much as they did to a event on the competitive side.  The fact that because of season 5 having 1 league and Season 6 had 3 leagues, I increased player participation within the competitive community tremendously.  Not a single person on here can claim from the NA side they have brought more casual regiments to a competitive event. 

Sorry for flexing fellas but like:

https://youtu.be/DzfX0T4LDD8
While I don't doubt that you had some influence over the amount of regiments in Season 6, saying you had a major impact is debatable. Comparing it to the performance of Season 5 is setting a rather low bar as well. It was legitimately the fucking worst season of NANWL; the bastard child of the group. Karth decided to fly away, Beech fucked off to god knows where, and Cheesey was desperate to even hold anything together. We went weeks without a single notice at the start because Karth responded to zero messages, and so began the cycle of sitting around, doing literally nothing. There were maybe 5 matches for a regiment for that whole season, and half of them fucking dropped due to scheduling differences and piss poor communication. No one wanted to do that, and most were convinced that was it for NW. Of course, once we got over our teenage girl tantrums, everyone decided to come back and have one last fucking orgy of cancer. Season 6 was definitely the last hurrah, but calling it one of the more exciting seasons is stretching it. It was by no means your fault, we were just tired of this abomination and wanted to finally end it.



Also, the USMC would have been gangbanged to the fourth dimension in League 1, no question. We were a group of bot fighting morons with the intellectual capacity and attention span of fucking goldfish. We could barely make it through the season, beat the 45e by pure luck, and then proceeded to get raped by the PSG. If you spent more than 20 minutes in our TS during an event and watched us train, you would have put us in League 3. 45e and PSG in League 1? Sure, but not the USMC, not by a longshot.
[close]

You keep saying "we".  Lets get a few things straight about that season of league.  The following regiments would not have touched league had I not talked to them:
4th Kings German Artillery
70th
1st Irish Brigade
84th York & Lancaster Regiment of Foot EU / NA
1stRM
58th Regiment of foot
21st (Royal North British Fusiliers) Royal Regiment of Foot
19e
17th Finnish LifeGuard Regiment
16th Middlesex (London Irish) Rifle Volunteer Corps
13th Foreign Legion
79th "Queens Own" Cameron Highlanders
104th
22nd

Yes winters all of these regiments would not have touched the comp side had I not talked to them.  I am sure of that.  I am saying that because of the amount of time and effort that I put into it, the return for everyone was much greater than what had been anticipated.  While I am glad you have your perspective, you wont change mine and those that had a really fun time in that season. 

I am glad that USMC comment got under ya skin a little bit ;) gotta make sure the JDF fan boys still are out there.
Fanboy? Lets get this straight. He was a half baked hippie who attended out of some sort of moral obligation, and I was a racist asshole out to release my teenage angst. We never got along, ever. As a matter of fact, most of the staff wanted me gone, and frankly they had very good reasons to.  I got a pass on it by basically begging not to be kicked out. That's right, 15 year old me crying like a bitch over this, imagine that (it isn't hard). I was a dick to practically all of them even after that and nearly got demoted on three occasions for not shutting my big mouth. The reason I'm defending them is because everything said in the above post was true. Our core had maybe 3 great players at the start, the rest were average or garbage. The regiment would have never made it through League 1, and I'm still surprised at how well we even did in League 2.

In fact, lets see how the USMC would have fared against any of the League 1 regiments during the time.

63e: Destroyed
3e: Annihilated
Moskov: Obliterated
IV: Eradicated
4th: Demolished
15th: Reduced to carbon (at least before it fell apart)
Lir: Probably a 6-4 for them
22nd: A tie at most

 

Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Rutger Müller on December 18, 2019, 05:06:08 am
#REFORMPSG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OsJkUMGdoI
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: |Viper| on December 18, 2019, 05:10:11 am
#REFORMPSG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OsJkUMGdoI
*Cough*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2htCxuTjqcQ
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: DrunkenSpartan on December 18, 2019, 05:10:51 am
that texture pack tho
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: |Viper| on December 18, 2019, 05:16:19 am
that texture pack tho
Legendary I know.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Windflower on December 18, 2019, 05:45:08 am
#REFORMPSG
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OsJkUMGdoI
[close]
*Cough*

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2htCxuTjqcQ
[close]
JUSTICE DEMANDS RETRIBUTION
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Rutger Müller on December 18, 2019, 08:25:11 am
#REFORMPSG
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OsJkUMGdoI
[close]
*Cough*

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2htCxuTjqcQ
[close]
JUSTICE DEMANDS RETRIBUTION
my reg was shit waddya expect to happen when the autistic 12 yr olds like vetro join your reg
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Windflower on December 18, 2019, 08:26:21 am
#REFORMPSG
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OsJkUMGdoI
[close]
*Cough*

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2htCxuTjqcQ
[close]
JUSTICE DEMANDS RETRIBUTION
my reg was shit waddya expect to happen when the autistic 12 yr olds like vetro join your reg
implying you didn't have any autistic 12 yr olds in your reg
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Rutger Müller on December 18, 2019, 08:30:35 am
#REFORMPSG
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OsJkUMGdoI
[close]
*Cough*

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2htCxuTjqcQ
[close]
JUSTICE DEMANDS RETRIBUTION
my reg was shit waddya expect to happen when the autistic 12 yr olds like vetro join your reg
implying you didn't have any autistic 12 yr olds in your reg
those are the best recruits.. always obedient to the reichsfuhrer fancypants
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Theodin on December 18, 2019, 02:53:10 pm
Any season of NANWL that the 63e had moderator influence in was garbo, straight up. The period between Jackie/Zzehth and when Amit righted the ship was without a doubt the most embarrassing and ill advised seasons of NANWL.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Wastee on December 18, 2019, 03:11:51 pm
wait there was a season 6 of nanwl, I thought it was a myth just like season 8.


If I wasn’t around it didn’t exist and you can’t prove me wrong
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: William on December 18, 2019, 04:23:02 pm
NANWL might just prove the existence of the Mandela Effect
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: |Viper| on December 18, 2019, 04:52:13 pm
Hey!!! At least my autism was controllable!!!
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: Zzehth on December 18, 2019, 04:58:40 pm
Any NANWL season after season 5 was shit. Simple.
Title: Re: What made NW from 2011/12-2016 so much fun?
Post by: PapaBean on December 18, 2019, 05:54:19 pm
Any NANWL season after season 4 was shit. Simple.

Had to fix that....