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Re: North American Community List-NaCl Reborn [Update 2.0: The NaCl Floweth]
« Reply #1395 on: June 14, 2018, 11:30:29 pm »
yeah MATT and i were smacking colonys when hed play NW 20-40 hrs every 2 weeks maple and apoc arent doing so well rn either lololo they claim "rust"

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Re: North American Community List-NaCl Reborn [Update 2.0: The NaCl Floweth]
« Reply #1396 on: June 14, 2018, 11:38:04 pm »
Apoc is trash now
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Re: North American Community List-NaCl Reborn [Update 2.0: The NaCl Floweth]
« Reply #1397 on: June 15, 2018, 12:26:57 am »
trash yet somehow a 93 still LOOOOOOOOOOL

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Re: North American Community List-NaCl Reborn [Update 2.0: The NaCl Floweth]
« Reply #1398 on: June 15, 2018, 12:30:26 am »
trash yet somehow a 93 still LOOOOOOOOOOL
because all time and current melee are different things?
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Re: North American Community List-NaCl Reborn [Update 2.0: The NaCl Floweth]
« Reply #1399 on: June 15, 2018, 12:46:39 am »
yeah MATT and i were smacking colonys when hed play NW 20-40 hrs every 2 weeks maple and apoc arent doing so well rn either lololo they claim "rust"
I assure you he wasn't playing 20-40 hours of NW every 2 weeks. Probably at max 10 hours on NW and 30 on Nord Invasion

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Re: North American Community List-NaCl Reborn [Update 2.0: The NaCl Floweth]
« Reply #1400 on: June 15, 2018, 01:07:18 am »
I don't know why people are saying I made the list with AP0C. He listened to some of my criticism but not all of it. For instance, I told him he should be 89 rated and well he's still 93 XD. For real though he was the 9th highest on Grimsight's list and even then he was overrated. AP0C, by "not changing your rating" you made yourself 4th best all time which is just not accurate.

Also, some have been complaining about over-rating old gens and I agree that they shouldn't be held so high up. That's why I downrated players like Lithios and Pointblank because their careers were so short and frankly they never won anything. Could they have been legends if they continued playing? Yea obviously. Look at a player like Ghost who was great in 2013 and just got better by sticking with the game.

With regard to LG in HoF, I agree they shouldn't be in it YET. At some point, YES. They only disbanded at the start of this year. They competed with a HoF reg (3eVolt) and despite what everyone thinks, competition now is much better than it was back in 2013. The 12th had a huge melee stack and they didn't have the insane level of coordination and discipline a lot of people seem to think they did.

I'm seeing a lot of arguments that LG lost some linebattles and groupfights and that's fine. Just because they don't have as flawless of a record as the 12th doesn't mean they shouldn't be in the HoF. Look at 9y and 1stFKI. They were getting losses to the 12th/2ndQF and they didn't do groupfights so it's hard to say if they would have had as good of a record as the LG (who dominated that scene for awhile) but they probably would have even more losses.

I'll say though the thing to remember is the average skill level of the community is constantly rising. I don't think the prime regiments of 2011-2015 would have a good time fighting current day regiments. However you should look at skill as relative and not absolute. The 12th were the first ones to figure the competitive scene out, and they paved the way for all regiments to follow. Would they hold up today? Probably not, but is that because the players are not skilled enough? No, it's that skill rises in parallel with the level of competition and people you practice with.

Bannerlord NW will be interesting, all old gens regiments will return and we will see which ones still have it in them when they put in the hours.

Only thing confusing me is people calling the 12th disciplined. They were the trolls of the day, lol. Though the bar for trolling was a lot lower back then

Also agree with what grim said +1

I think you misunderstood the arguments.

The argument isn't that LG lost some linebattles therefore they don't deserve a spot in the HoF.

LG lost, tied and had very close matches with genuinely terrible regiments. With the other regiments in the HoF, yes they took losses, but it was only other top tier regiments beating them (12th's only 2 losses were to the 3eVolt, 9y beat 7NA, 12th/2ndQF beat 9y/1stFKI), It's not like the 12th, 3eVolt, 1stFKI, 9y etc. ever lost, tied or consistently had close calls with regiments like the 29th or USMC.


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This is also insane, people need to stop saying this. That's like me saying 98e is competing with a HoF regiment because we're facing the 71st now. The 71st has the same name as the 71st that was rightfully inducted into the HoF, but it isn't the same regiment, and it's not fair to the legacy of those regiments.

If we're using this logic, 4th/98th should be HoF cause we competed with 3eVolt in 2016 and went back and forth with 71st during that same year, which is 2 HoF regiments.


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Re: North American Community List-NaCl Reborn [Update 2.0: The NaCl Floweth]
« Reply #1401 on: June 15, 2018, 01:10:58 am »
But that 3e Volt was comparable to the HoF 3e, both in roster, longevity, leadership and success.
The 4th/98th was a flash in the pan, like many other regiments that have come and gone, and that lack of longevity eliminates it from contention.

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 71st, Nr8(LG) l 1x 4v4- 1st Place (RussianFury, Waste, NickCole, Theodin) l 1x Cav Joust- 2nd Place l 1x 4v4-
 3rd Place (Theodin, AsianP, Sleek, Godfried, Lurvy) l 1x 5v5 - 1st Place (RussianFury, Yoshie, Krastinov, Jorge, Theodin - Thanos and his children)

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Re: North American Community List-NaCl Reborn [Update 2.0: The NaCl Floweth]
« Reply #1402 on: June 15, 2018, 01:14:49 am »
But that 3e Volt was comparable to the HoF 3e, both in roster, longevity, leadership and success.
The 4th/98th was a flash in the pan, like many other regiments that have come and gone, and that lack of longevity eliminates it from contention.
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Re: North American Community List-NaCl Reborn [Update 2.0: The NaCl Floweth]
« Reply #1403 on: June 15, 2018, 01:17:24 am »
This 71st is comparable with the peak one melee wise, but linebattle wise we're missing
a) our entire NCO core and
b) Cheesey's leadership chemistry with Russian

besides, it's not like it's really close between the 71st and 98e now, is it, and if the 71st now isn't HoF caliber, the 98e rn isn't either

1x NA Duel- Runner up |  3x 3v3- 3rd place (Seadderol Deflatriots) (Ez Money) (71st Guards + Russian) | 1x Duel League- 4th place | 1x Regimental Groupfighting- 1st place (71st)  l  1x 2v2- 3rd Place (Vortex/Theodin) | TNWL Season 2 - 1st Place l 1x 2v2- 1st Place (Theodin/Elite) l 2x NANWL-
 71st, Nr8(LG) l 1x 4v4- 1st Place (RussianFury, Waste, NickCole, Theodin) l 1x Cav Joust- 2nd Place l 1x 4v4-
 3rd Place (Theodin, AsianP, Sleek, Godfried, Lurvy) l 1x 5v5 - 1st Place (RussianFury, Yoshie, Krastinov, Jorge, Theodin - Thanos and his children)

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Re: North American Community List-NaCl Reborn [Update 2.0: The NaCl Floweth]
« Reply #1404 on: June 15, 2018, 01:21:49 am »
If we're using this logic, 4th/98th should be HoF cause we competed with 3eVolt in 2016 and went back and forth with 71st during that same year, which is 2 HoF regiments.

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Re: North American Community List-NaCl Reborn [Update 2.0: The NaCl Floweth]
« Reply #1405 on: June 15, 2018, 01:22:09 am »
But that 3e Volt was comparable to the HoF 3e, both in roster, longevity, leadership and success.
The 4th/98th was a flash in the pan, like many other regiments that have come and gone, and that lack of longevity eliminates it from contention.

That 4th/98th lasted like 6 months and tied 3eVolt twice (lost like 4 times tbf) and was like 3-3 or 4-3 with 71st in 1v1's, and placed 3rd in NANWL.

This 71st is comparable with the peak one melee wise, but linebattle wise we're missing
a) our entire NCO core and
b) Cheesey's leadership chemistry with Russian

besides, it's not like it's really close between the 71st and 98e now, is it, and if the 71st now isn't HoF caliber, the 98e rn isn't either


It actually is pretty close when we have full rosters, Only time 71st has smacked 98e was when we were missing a lot of key players

and the 1 1v1 we had tied.

and agreed, neither of them are HoF caliber.
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Re: North American Community List-NaCl Reborn [Update 2.0: The NaCl Floweth]
« Reply #1406 on: June 15, 2018, 01:22:23 am »
I mean, that doesn't look like too many losses, ties, and close wins vs terrible regiments or regiments at all. This is our entire record more or less from day 1 to the last day. Most of our losses and close wins, minus the ones with the 3eVolt, are in the first month of the LG. Believe it or not we weren't always a really good regiment, we had to train and build chemistry to get to the point of being able to win pretty much everything.

Not to mention we fucked sucked at line leading at the start. I hadn't lead a line in like 2 years and Russian hadn't been at the front barely ever at all

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Groupfights

15-4 vs 32e WIN
20-8 vs 45e WIN
15-5 vs 32e WIN
15-9 vs 45e WIN
15-8 vs 63e WIN
15-8 vs 30thWIN
15-14 vs 63e WIN
15-10 vs 32e WIN
15-1 vs 32e WIN
20-11 vs 32e WIN
15-4 vs 1stSH WIN
15-5 vs 32e WIN
15-7 vs 63e WIN
15-13 vs 32e WIN
15-6 vs 32e WIN
12-15 vs 63e LOSS
15-5 vs 4eGren WIN
15-2 vs 32e WIN
15-12 vs 57th WIN
15-13 vs 3eVolt WIN
15-4 vs 32e WIN
6-20 vs 3eVolt LOSS
13-20 vs 3eVolt LOSS
15-1 vs USMC WIN
15-20 vs 3eVolt LOSS
15-1 vs AEF WIN
20-8 vs 3eVolt WIN
15-11 vs 3eVolt WIN
15-3 vs 34e WIN
15-14 vs 41st WIN
15-9 vs 30th WIN
20-15 vs 34e WIN
13-15 vs 3eVolt LOSS
20-7 vs 34e WIN
11-9 vs 41st WIN
20-13 vs 41st WIN
19-25 vs 3eVolt LOSS
15-10 vs 2pp WIN
15-12 vs 3eVolt WIN <---- 45e merge
5-20 vs 3eVolt LOSS
20-4 vs 63e WIN
20-2 vs 41st WIN
15-5 vs 63e WIN
15-7 Vs 3eVolt WIN
19-19 Vs 3eVolt  TIE
20-0 vs 63e WIN
20-5 vs 63e WIN
20-14 vs 63e WIN
20-10 vs 63e WIN
20-13 vs 63e WIN
20-7 vs 63e WIN
15-2 vs 39th WIN
15-0 vs 63e WIN
15-10 vs 3eVolt WIN
9-15 vs 3eVolt LOSS
15-10 vs 3eVolt WIN
14-20 vs 91st LOSS
20-9 vs 93rd WIN
20-5 vs 93rd WIN

1v1s

6-4 vs 30th WIN
2-8 vs Sil LOSS
5-5 vs USMC TIE
7-3 vs AEF WIN
4-6 vs 63e LOSS
9-1 vs 32e WIN
5-5 vs 45e TIE
4-6 vs 6teSLR LOSS
4-6 vs 4th LOSS
7-3 vs 41st WIN
8-2 vs AEF WIN
9-1 vs USMC WIN
8-2 vs 57th WIN
9-1 vs AEF WIN
9-1 vs 4eGren WIN
6-4 vs 32e WIN NANWL
9-1 vs 4th WIN NANWL
5-5 vs 30th TIE NANWL
8-2 vs AEF WIN
10-0 vs USMC WIN NANWL
6-4 vs 57th WIN NANWL
10-0 vs LIR WIN NANWL
1-9 vs 3eVolt LOSS
7-3 vs 45e WIN
3-7 vs 3eVolt LOSS
6-4 vs 30th WIN
3-7 vs 3eVolt LOSS
10-0 vs HMCF WIN
6-4 vs 85e WIN
8-2 vs 41st WIN
10-0 vs 39th WIN <----45e merge
10-0 vs 18e WIN
7-3 vs 63e WIN
10-0 26e WIN
10-0 Vth WIN
6-4 Vs 63e WIN
10-0 Vs 26e WIN
10-0 Vs 54th WIN
10-0 Vs 26e WIN
7-3 vs 3eVolt WIN [NAPL Final] #JusticeForRGL
9-1 vs 26e WIN
8-2 vs 91st WIN
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This is just our "official" record also.
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Re: North American Community List-NaCl Reborn [Update 2.0: The NaCl Floweth]
« Reply #1408 on: June 15, 2018, 01:29:25 am »
2-8 vs Sil LOSS

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Re: North American Community List-NaCl Reborn [Update 2.0: The NaCl Floweth]
« Reply #1409 on: June 15, 2018, 01:32:42 am »
USMC tying LG, good times.