I don't know why people are saying I made the list with AP0C. He listened to some of my criticism but not all of it. For instance, I told him he should be 89 rated and well he's still 93 XD. For real though he was the 9th highest on Grimsight's list and even then he was overrated. AP0C, by "not changing your rating" you made yourself 4th best all time which is just not accurate.
Also, some have been complaining about over-rating old gens and I agree that they shouldn't be held so high up. That's why I downrated players like Lithios and Pointblank because their careers were so short and frankly they never won anything. Could they have been legends if they continued playing? Yea obviously. Look at a player like Ghost who was great in 2013 and just got better by sticking with the game.
With regard to LG in HoF, I agree they shouldn't be in it
YET. At some point,
YES. They only disbanded at the start of this year. They competed with a HoF reg (3eVolt) and despite what everyone thinks, competition now is much better than it was back in 2013. The 12th had a huge melee stack and they didn't have the insane level of coordination and discipline a lot of people seem to think they did.
I'm seeing a lot of arguments that LG lost some linebattles and groupfights and that's fine. Just because they don't have as flawless of a record as the 12th doesn't mean they shouldn't be in the HoF. Look at 9y and 1stFKI. They were getting losses to the 12th/2ndQF and they didn't do groupfights so it's hard to say if they would have had as good of a record as the LG (who dominated that scene for awhile) but they probably would have even more losses.
I'll say though the thing to remember is the average skill level of the community is constantly rising. I don't think the prime regiments of 2011-2015 would have a good time fighting current day regiments. However you should look at skill as relative and not absolute. The 12th were the first ones to figure the competitive scene out, and they paved the way for all regiments to follow. Would they hold up today? Probably not, but is that because the players are not skilled enough? No, it's that skill rises in parallel with the level of competition and people you practice with.
Bannerlord NW will be interesting, all old gens regiments will return and we will see which ones still have it in them when they put in the hours.
Only thing confusing me is people calling the 12th disciplined. They were the trolls of the day, lol. Though the bar for trolling was a lot lower back then
Also agree with what grim said +1
