| Elite Tier (Big Brain) (90-100) 95.5 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Karth (63e) 95.0 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Breaches/Tico (12th) 92.5 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) AsianP (3eVolt/58e) 91.0 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Breaches (12th) 90.0 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Tico (12th) 90.0 - (https://i.imgur.com/CNOr3Kt.png) Grimsight (3eVolt) |
| High Tier (80-89) 85.7 - (https://i.imgur.com/CNOr3Kt.png) Zorkoth (12th) 85.5 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Cheeseypants (71st) 84.0 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Alexander (5th/75th) 83.7 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Ody (MoskovGren) 83.5 - (https://i.imgur.com/dOFmLhS.png) Irish (6te) 83.2 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) RussianFury/Waste (LG) 83.0 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Stox (54th) 82.7 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Knight of St John (PSG) 82.7 - (https://i.imgur.com/CNOr3Kt.png) Godfreid (98e/4th) 82.3 - (https://i.imgur.com/CNOr3Kt.png) PurplePanda/Windflower (30th) 82.2 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Marceaux (111e/84e) 81.9 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Praetorian (22e) 81.5 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Millander (1stFKI) 81.0 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) DrByeBye (12e/54th) 80.5 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Locust (40th/54th) 80.3 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Wardop/Deg (14th/1aSvea) 80.0 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Jetch (LIR) |
| Average Tier (70-79) 79.5 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Lawbringer (58e/91st) 79.5 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) FancyPants (3DM/35th) 78.2 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Littlefield (92nd) 78.2 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Zen (63e) 78.1 - (https://i.imgur.com/CNOr3Kt.png) Jorge (8th) 78.0 - (https://i.imgur.com/CNOr3Kt.png) Windflower (PSG/30th) 78.0 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) RussianFury (LG/Moskov) 77.9 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) CommissarJDF (USMC) 77.8 - (https://i.imgur.com/CNOr3Kt.png) Who (12th) 77.7 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Vortex (3eVolt) 77.7 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Waste (LG/Nr37) 77.7 - (https://i.imgur.com/CNOr3Kt.png) PurplePanda (30th/15thYork) 77.6 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Ghost (12th) 77.6 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Pinkerton (Nr37) 77.6 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Rafael (Various) 77.5 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) NickCole (Nr11/93rd) 77.5 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) NappySurena (45e) 77.5 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) MackCW/Saltyy (9y/2te) 77.4 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Vinago (54th) 77.4 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Deadeye (Nr7/1te) 76.3 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Nico (4th) 76.2 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Spoons (9th) 76.0 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Chantakey (5th/75th) 75.8 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Lawrence (Various) 75.8 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Damian (84e) 75.7 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Dodge (39th/23rd) 75.7 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) KillerShark (18th) 75.7 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) DjOverjoy (45e/5th) 75.0 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Mockingjay (31e) 74.8 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) GlukTheWalrus (1erGren) 74.7 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Audiate (91st/8pp) 74.5 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Jakester (41st) 74.4 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Anthony (AEF) 74.4 - (https://i.imgur.com/CNOr3Kt.png) Yoshie (6te/40th) 74.4 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Armystrong (74th/79th) 74.1 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Offizer (63e) 73.9 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Glenn (USMC/15e) 73.5 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Cytiuz (VB/HRE) 73.4 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Andee (3DM/35th) 73.0 - (https://i.imgur.com/CNOr3Kt.png) Amit (22nd) 72.9 - (https://i.imgur.com/hScmPmE.png) Potus (87th) 72.8 - (https://i.imgur.com/CNOr3Kt.png) TheJollyCanadian (15e/USMC) 72.4 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Carson (USMC/30th) 72.3 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Siwi (7te) 72.2 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Spearman (13thFL) 72.1 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Newkirk (27th) 72.1 - (https://i.imgur.com/CNOr3Kt.png) Getty (Nr9) 72.1 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) PapaBean (Various) 72.0 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) GlacialGriffin (MoskovGren) 71.9 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Munch (3rdSS) 71.0 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Lips (30th) 70.9 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Unitater (15e) 70.3 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Bryce (QRG) 70.1 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Pooba (2eChefs) 70.0 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Midnight (Various/6te) |
| Honorable Mentions (69 & Below) 72.0 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Pickle (Various/1stFL) 69.3 - (https://i.imgur.com/CNOr3Kt.png) Maple (41st) 68.5 - (https://i.imgur.com/CNOr3Kt.png) Label (4thKGA) 68.0 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Kuni (51st) 68.0 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Saladin/LiquidSkorpion (4thKGA) 68.0 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Capone (HRE) 66.5 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Bluenose (1er) 64.7 - (https://i.imgur.com/Rf4s3tr.png) Yoloswag (Nr23/40th) |
When Kuni/Unitater is on the list but not me smhI don't rly remember you leading a regiment competitively (within the last like 4 years)
I've done back leading in the 6te and even with the 4eGren when that was a thing because Irish disbanded :(When Kuni/Unitater is on the list but not me smhI don't rly remember you leading a regiment competitively (within the last like 4 years)
This is pretty good, I’d say, and well done for putting the same leaders at different places in time.Asian just wasn't as good prime vs prime
My feedback would be:
Asian ^ over Tico/Breaches, due to leading at an elite tier throughout different eras
Cheesey ^ above Grimsight for the same reason ( also, possibly include Blade and Russian with Cheese, but who knowsCheesey didn't even lead for that much longer than when Grimsight stopped, and even so Grimsight was better and made a bigger impact leading-wise.
Godfreid ^ KOSJ, as without Godfried more than a few regiments would have been stomped early and disappearedI don't know what you mean by this
Russian and Waste ^ Irish. Didn’t they just prove that once again? How long are people going to maintain they aren’t quite good leaders after years of proof?Wym? What won them that match was their regiments massive melee advantage, though they used their leading effectively with this advantage. Irish is just at base a better tactical leader than these two, thats faxx.
Wardop/Deg ^ you and Panda. The season 1 NANWL win means more than your NAPL win.Idk about that chief, Wardop didn't really impress with his leading with his return to NW and even back then his leading was pretty heavily scoffed at, but I'll add a reasoning for him soon.
Marceaux way down. He’s a fraudNah, his regiment had a lot of nobodies as well. He did quite well with what he had and managed to make his regiments quite competitive even back then.
Mack and Jakester ^, you’re disrespecting them all the way down therePerhaps
Get lips off the list, the man was dumb as a brick
This is pretty good, I’d say, and well done for putting the same leaders at different places in time.
My feedback would be:
Asian ^ over Tico/Breaches, due to leading at an elite tier throughout different eras
Cheesey ^ above Grimsight for the same reason ( also, possibly include Blade and Russian with Cheese, but who knows
Godfreid ^ KOSJ, as without Godfried more than a few regiments would have been stomped early and disappeared
Russian and Waste ^ Irish. Didn’t they just prove that once again? How long are people going to maintain they aren’t quite good leaders after years of proof?
Wardop/Deg ^ you and Panda. The season 1 NANWL win means more than your NAPL win.
Marceaux way down. He’s a fraud
Maybe Russian and Waste individually up, but I can understand it
Mack and Jakester ^, you’re disrespecting them all the way down there
Get lips off the list, the man was dumb as a brick
This is pretty good, I’d say, and well done for putting the same leaders at different places in time.
My feedback would be:
Asian ^ over Tico/Breaches, due to leading at an elite tier throughout different eras
Cheesey ^ above Grimsight for the same reason ( also, possibly include Blade and Russian with Cheese, but who knows
Godfreid ^ KOSJ, as without Godfried more than a few regiments would have been stomped early and disappeared
Russian and Waste ^ Irish. Didn’t they just prove that once again? How long are people going to maintain they aren’t quite good leaders after years of proof?
Wardop/Deg ^ you and Panda. The season 1 NANWL win means more than your NAPL win.
Marceaux way down. He’s a fraud
Maybe Russian and Waste individually up, but I can understand it
Mack and Jakester ^, you’re disrespecting them all the way down there
Get lips off the list, the man was dumb as a brick
6te at one point had a very good lineup for melee. Yoshie, Maniac, Rafael, Suns, Yoloswag, Vetro, Epix, and Anthony. I do believe around the 2016/2017 era 6te had a nice lineup too when they were big bringing 40~ to events.This is pretty good, I’d say, and well done for putting the same leaders at different places in time.
My feedback would be:
Asian ^ over Tico/Breaches, due to leading at an elite tier throughout different eras
Cheesey ^ above Grimsight for the same reason ( also, possibly include Blade and Russian with Cheese, but who knows
Godfreid ^ KOSJ, as without Godfried more than a few regiments would have been stomped early and disappeared
Russian and Waste ^ Irish. Didn’t they just prove that once again? How long are people going to maintain they aren’t quite good leaders after years of proof?
Wardop/Deg ^ you and Panda. The season 1 NANWL win means more than your NAPL win.
Marceaux way down. He’s a fraud
Maybe Russian and Waste individually up, but I can understand it
Mack and Jakester ^, you’re disrespecting them all the way down there
Get lips off the list, the man was dumb as a brick
I still think Irish is a better 1v1 leader because of what he has done with the players he has had. He did have some really great players like Yoshie, Raf, and Maniac and other solid meleers, but he never had the stack that the LG has. Not to take anything away from Russian and Waste, they did a great job taking advantage of Irish's mistakes and the LG's melee skill in the final 1v1 of NWL.
A player I think could move up is Zen. He almost single handedly kept the 63e extremely competitive after Karth and Offizer dipped. I think he is a better leader than people give him credit for. And he had even less talented players in the 63e than Karth had, which is saying something.
I do also agree with Theo, Jakester should be a bit higher.
I think this list is pretty much perfect.
Russian and Waste led the LG to 3 Rings. They’ve been apart of some of the most major deciding matches in recent years.
NANWL S7 vs 57th Nappy coup’d reg (won league)
NARGL vs 3eVolt (2nd)
NAPL vs 3eVolt (won league)
NAGL vs 42nd (2nd place) choked but still 2nd place, lost by 1
NANWL S9 vs 6teSLR second match which decided the league (won league)
With a hiatus in S8 cause Waste wanted to eat crayons, they returned and continued to place well in competitions.
But that’s my take on the Russian/Waste combo, probably not a popular opinion but I think they should be a little higher
i tied the 71st 5-5 last year. hello?!?!? godfreid and i wombo combo
HoLdFaSt MeLEe Is ImMeRSiVei tied the 71st 5-5 last year. hello?!?!? godfreid and i wombo combo
Hey aren't you that Holdfast guy?
Asian was hundo p as good prime vs prime. Old 3e usually had a slight melee disadvantage and less people but the quality of leading was superb. You can’t be srswe left the 1st season of TNWL after 10-0ing everyone in the group stage
Cheesey won TNWL season 2 and came second in season 1 right? Grimsight was way gone by that point
Godfried was a league 1 quality leader in league 2 quality regiments and every reg he was in punched above it’s league bc of him. But he knows more about it than me
Heavily scoffed at by whom? The 14th was hampered by everyone good at melee being in the 12th, and yet they were still considered a relative equal. They were overshadowed by the 54th and 12th but proved they could beat league 1 caliber regs. Winning league 1 carries more value than one NAPL win.
Lips knew how to reverse vs tier 12 regiments. Other than that he had very little value as a leader
Asian was hundo p as good prime vs prime. Old 3e usually had a slight melee disadvantage and less people but the quality of leading was superb. You can’t be srsAsian's quality of leading is superb, but Tico/Breaches were better.
Cheesey won TNWL season 2 and came second in season 1 right? Grimsight was way gone by that point
Godfried was a league 1 quality leader in league 2 quality regiments and every reg he was in punched above it’s league bc of him. But he knows more about it than me
Heavily scoffed at by whom? The 14th was hampered by everyone good at melee being in the 12th, and yet they were still considered a relative equal. They were overshadowed by the 54th and 12th but proved they could beat league 1 caliber regs. Winning league 1 carries more value than one NAPL win.
Lips knew how to reverse vs tier 12 regiments. Other than that he had very little value as a leader
Russian and Waste led the LG to 3 Rings. They’ve been apart of some of the most major deciding matches in recent years.I wouldn't say their leading IQ is what led them to be so successful
NANWL S7 vs 57th Nappy coup’d reg (won league) - Melee against Raf leading
NARGL vs 3eVolt (2nd) - Groupfighting, irrelevant to this list
NAPL vs 3eVolt (won league) - good job russian and waste, peds though (45e)
NAGL vs 42nd (2nd place) choked but still 2nd place, lost by 1 - This was basically just a 1v1, wouldnt consider this a league victory or placement
NANWL S9 vs 6teSLR second match which decided the league (won league) - covered this
With a hiatus in S8 cause Waste wanted to eat crayons, they returned and continued to place well in competitions.
But that’s my take on the Russian/Waste combo, probably not a popular opinion but I think they should be a little higher
gluk shouldnt be on here
maple does not need to be on here
nappy is underrated
dj is underrated
chantakey is underrated
rafael is underrated
feel like JDF is still to low no cap
↓Marceux
you know thats actually a good question. me and marceaux were a top tier team↓Marceux
You mean MarSUCKS. Matter of fact where is our duo ranking BabyJ? :P
Asian’s leading was not just elite, but it was best of its class - the only thing that makes him below Karth is he wasn’t willing to pitch tents quite like Karth was
you know thats actually a good question. me and marceaux were a top tier team↓Marceux
You mean MarSUCKS. Matter of fact where is our duo ranking BabyJ? :P
My blood does not run 63e blueAsian’s leading was not just elite, but it was best of its class - the only thing that makes him below Karth is he wasn’t willing to pitch tents quite like Karth was
lmao dont disrespect the god of NW like that.
My blood does not run 63e blueAsian’s leading was not just elite, but it was best of its class - the only thing that makes him below Karth is he wasn’t willing to pitch tents quite like Karth was
lmao dont disrespect the god of NW like that.
tbh tho, this list needs some work
tbh tho, this list needs some work
im upsetFifty thousand on my head, it's disrespect
im bankrupt
Nick was a really underrated leader. He’s just known for his 93rd record in season 8, but after that he got a lot better and eventually 6-4’d the 6te and barely lost to LG 6-4.
If I remember correctly, Wardop lead the first 2 rounds and the rest were the Movement/NickCole combo but it was mostly Movement who lead. I’m also 100% positive 93rd beat 6te in a 1v1.Nick was a really underrated leader. He’s just known for his 93rd record in season 8, but after that he got a lot better and eventually 6-4’d the 6te and barely lost to LG 6-4.
Not sure about that one, although saying that I don't know how many rounds he led in the 1a vs 6te match
I would have more respect for Nicks leadership if he didn't just up and quit when he starts losing.I had to leave for 6 weeks I didn’t quit. Also Irish you good at running away but let’s not forget when you tied 30th when up 5-0 or the fact that you tied 51st. Don’t over estimate yourself.
...when you tied 30th when up 5-0...
I think I reffed that match.. or I played for the 30th. Either way I remember Godfried venting over steam mid round about it...when you tied 30th when up 5-0...
To be fair, I believe Godfreid led those 5 rounds against 30th, then Irish let Marceaux lead which then lost the last few rounds.
I think I reffed that match.. or I played for the 30th. Either way I remember Godfried venting over steam mid round about it...when you tied 30th when up 5-0...
To be fair, I believe Godfreid led those 5 rounds against 30th, then Irish let Marceaux lead which then lost the last few rounds.
So offended that I had to double checkim upsetFifty thousand on my head, it's disrespect
Make me wanna buy a musket with bayonetSo offended that I had to double checkim upsetFifty thousand on my head, it's disrespect
Winning rings and cashing checksMake me wanna buy a musket with bayonetSo offended that I had to double checkim upsetFifty thousand on my head, it's disrespect
Winning rings and cashing checksMake me wanna buy a musket with bayonetSo offended that I had to double checkim upsetFifty thousand on my head, it's disrespect
Winning rings and cashing checksMake me wanna buy a musket with bayonetSo offended that I had to double checkim upsetFifty thousand on my head, it's disrespect
Where'd u get that signature
I need my 2 63e NWL's, 75th TNWL, and LG NWL on one of those bad boys
Have to say... this actually is really well done. One of the better lists that have been done on this site.
Have to say... this actually is really well done. One of the better lists that have been done on this site.happy late fathers day!
Have to say... this actually is really well done. One of the better lists that have been done on this site.
Parental approval
5th loses 1 match vs Ody EVER and he is better leader, plz explain.
LISTEN HERE JUST CUZ ODY HAS MORE BALLS TO POST DICK PICS ON HERE DOESNT MEAN I WONT DO IT SAY NO BALLS AND ILL END IT ALL THE SAME WAY THE JEW BOY DID.5th loses 1 match vs Ody EVER and he is better leader, plz explain.
Tis just Windflowers opinion.
LISTEN HERE JUST CUZ ODY HAS MORE BALLS TO POST DICK PICS ON HERE DOESNT MEAN I WONT DO IT SAY NO BALLS AND ILL END IT ALL THE SAME WAY THE JEW BOY DID.5th loses 1 match vs Ody EVER and he is better leader, plz explain.
Tis just Windflowers opinion.
Hey I led a reg for almost 2 years and won League Two :D can I be on the list boi
congrats on the 7th best regimentHey I led a reg for almost 2 years and won League Two :D can I be on the list boi
I'm surprised that Pepper from the 1stPLG is not on this list. Never in my years of playing in the community at its height had I seen a light cavalry regiment as skilled of them. More importantly, the culture of their regiment encouraged members to become elite while maintaining a flat leadership structure and a casual environment.You have a point, though the list is more based on in terms of skill in competitive line leading, sorry.
I'm also surprised to see no mention of the 1st Eat Prussian Infantry (1stEPI) on this list. While most regiments are essentially a cult of personality around their commanders, the 1stEPI was able to change leaders every year yet still maintain its culture and skill. They're also arguably the founders of the NA community.
While culture is hard to quantify and observe from the outside, I believe the best leader I've ever met in terms of community building is Oscar of the 33e (33rd, 33te, etc).
Still triggered you think Alexander formed/lead 75th:( He just lead TNWL:(Did the 75th do anything outside of winning TNWL or no
Also he never reformed after TNWL it was always me lmao
You gotta think tho, give Karth the players some of these other dudes were leading and 63e would be almost unstoppable.
You gotta think tho, give Karth the players some of these other dudes were leading and 63e would be almost unstoppable.if Karth had a solid melee core would he change his style or still just hill camp tho?
Great list. Really comprehensive and was a nice read. Only a few gripes:You make some good points as well but the impact that certain regiments have had on the game isn't comparable to the actual line leading skill of that individual I feel. I don't credit Godfreid that much because tl;dr while he was a good leader he struggled to find major success with his own regiments, rather I feel he found more success as a leader joining and leading other (bigger) regiments. Also led against him a decent amount of times so it's a little opinion as well.
- Karth, Breaches, and Tico at 97 is too high a jump, these guys weren't that far ahead. I'll always hand it to them and give them those top two spots, but it's not likely they were vastly far ahead. Certainly not 6 points above Asian. 94, 95 max
- I should be in the top rung (boutta whip out my e-Penis). Dominated for years, built my reg from ground up (we were in tatters after Asian left), only non-9y style reg to give the 12th a challenge at peak, equal competitive score against the 63e, and beat AsianP in our only tournament match where we faced off. Give me 90 baby
- Godfried underrated at 82. He's impressed me the most out of all the leaders I see these days. 86+
- RussianFury/Waste severely underrated at 81. They've been at it and at the top for so long that they are leading a legacy regiment at this point. A reg that will be remembered as one of the best. 86+.
Great list. Really comprehensive and was a nice read. Only a few gripes:You make some good points as well but the impact that certain regiments have had on the game isn't comparable to the actual line leading skill of that individual I feel. I don't credit Godfreid that much because tl;dr while he was a good leader he struggled to find major success with his own regiments, rather I feel he found more success as a leader joining and leading other (bigger) regiments. Also led against him a decent amount of times so it's a little opinion as well.
- Karth, Breaches, and Tico at 97 is too high a jump, these guys weren't that far ahead. I'll always hand it to them and give them those top two spots, but it's not likely they were vastly far ahead. Certainly not 6 points above Asian. 94, 95 max
- I should be in the top rung (boutta whip out my e-Penis). Dominated for years, built my reg from ground up (we were in tatters after Asian left), only non-9y style reg to give the 12th a challenge at peak, equal competitive score against the 63e, and beat AsianP in our only tournament match where we faced off. Give me 90 baby
- Godfried underrated at 82. He's impressed me the most out of all the leaders I see these days. 86+
- RussianFury/Waste severely underrated at 81. They've been at it and at the top for so long that they are leading a legacy regiment at this point. A reg that will be remembered as one of the best. 86+.
You gotta think tho, give Karth the players some of these other dudes were leading and 63e would be almost unstoppable.if Karth had a solid melee core would he change his style or still just hill camp tho?
Sure but it's also his job as leader to train them into better players and succeed regardless of circumstance. I feel he was recognized for his leadership more after the 98e when he was able to use good melee players to his advantage. Even during our TNWL match the 98e had a significant advantage over us in melee and we basically tied (I say basically because of shoddy refereeing)bro I was usually the best meleer in all of Godfreid regs, and I was never really that good. I loved everyone in the 98e and it’s other monikers but basically everyone but godfreid sucked at melee.SpoilerGreat list. Really comprehensive and was a nice read. Only a few gripes:You make some good points as well but the impact that certain regiments have had on the game isn't comparable to the actual line leading skill of that individual I feel. I don't credit Godfreid that much because tl;dr while he was a good leader he struggled to find major success with his own regiments, rather I feel he found more success as a leader joining and leading other (bigger) regiments. Also led against him a decent amount of times so it's a little opinion as well.
- Karth, Breaches, and Tico at 97 is too high a jump, these guys weren't that far ahead. I'll always hand it to them and give them those top two spots, but it's not likely they were vastly far ahead. Certainly not 6 points above Asian. 94, 95 max
- I should be in the top rung (boutta whip out my e-Penis). Dominated for years, built my reg from ground up (we were in tatters after Asian left), only non-9y style reg to give the 12th a challenge at peak, equal competitive score against the 63e, and beat AsianP in our only tournament match where we faced off. Give me 90 baby
- Godfried underrated at 82. He's impressed me the most out of all the leaders I see these days. 86+
- RussianFury/Waste severely underrated at 81. They've been at it and at the top for so long that they are leading a legacy regiment at this point. A reg that will be remembered as one of the best. 86+.[close]
Windflower I would like to point out the last time Godfreid lead against you (I think) was the first half of NAPL 30th vs 6te match where 6te 5-0ed you. Then once he got swapped with Marso we tied.Not entirely sure how accurate that statement is but you know the 30th are comeback kings so that initial score doesn't mean much (:
Godfreid > Marso
If anyone thinks ONE 1v1 or a couple select results decide who is better etc. You are pretty dumb. Look at overall records and results. Not just, oh i beat this guy in a 1v1 one time so im better then him. That logic is horrible when judging ALL TIME results in competition. If that logic applies then i should be a 99 and so should 90% of the other leaders on this list. I beat Karth in 1v1 so am i better then Karth? You see the issue with that logic?no.
Godfreid is better than marceux+1
+2Godfreid is better than marceux+1
Godfreid is better than marceux+1
not in his own regs. maybe as a second or third ic yea but as shinto has already said, Godfried's regiments had.. nobody goodGodfreid is better than marceux+1
In melee sure, and I already suggested raising his rank. But I have several results that would prove I've done more as an individual leading. And not to discredit Godfrieds leadership but he was often handed ranks and given leadership opportunities in melee stacked or well-established regiments due to his personal ability in melee. So imo that takes away from his personal accomplishments as a leader since he didn't have to do much to lead a good regiment and nearly always had some of the games best players under his command.
not in his own regs. maybe as a second or third ic yea but as shinto has already said, Godfried's regiments had.. nobody goodGodfreid is better than marceux+1
In melee sure, and I already suggested raising his rank. But I have several results that would prove I've done more as an individual leading. And not to discredit Godfrieds leadership but he was often handed ranks and given leadership opportunities in melee stacked or well-established regiments due to his personal ability in melee. So imo that takes away from his personal accomplishments as a leader since he didn't have to do much to lead a good regiment and nearly always had some of the games best players under his command.
Here are some of my suggestions, for damn sure lower ByeBye firstly. Russian/Waste and Godfreid especially need to come up. Regardless of who was in their regiments they showed success when leading under many circumstances and credit must be given where it is due.
↓82.6 - DrByeBye (12e/54th)
↓82.6 - Praetorian (22e)
↓82.5 - Millander (1stFKI)
-82.3 - PurplePanda/Windflower (30th)
↑82.3 - Godfreid (98e/4th)
↑81.0 - RussianFury/Waste (LG)
-80.5 - Locust (40th/54th)
-80.3 - Wardop/Deg (14th/1aSvea)
-80.0 - Jetch (LIR)
Beat 71st smh (the supposed best NAs) but nah after TNWL noone would face us anymoreStill triggered you think Alexander formed/lead 75th:( He just lead TNWL:(Did the 75th do anything outside of winning TNWL or no
Also he never reformed after TNWL it was always me lmao
Nr37 beat you right after TNWL when 18th went rip and we reformedBeat 71st smh (the supposed best NAs) but nah after TNWL noone would face us anymoreStill triggered you think Alexander formed/lead 75th:( He just lead TNWL:(Did the 75th do anything outside of winning TNWL or no
Also he never reformed after TNWL it was always me lmao
more like 75th wouldn’t rematch the 71st smhBeat 71st smh (the supposed best NAs) but nah after TNWL noone would face us anymoreStill triggered you think Alexander formed/lead 75th:( He just lead TNWL:(Did the 75th do anything outside of winning TNWL or no
Also he never reformed after TNWL it was always me lmao
^ we beat 5th/75th enough lolmore like 75th wouldn’t rematch the 71st smhBeat 71st smh (the supposed best NAs) but nah after TNWL noone would face us anymoreStill triggered you think Alexander formed/lead 75th:( He just lead TNWL:(Did the 75th do anything outside of winning TNWL or no
Also he never reformed after TNWL it was always me lmao
Nothing but love and affection for those that vote against me on the poll. They cannot help the fact that they were born fucked up!
Nothing but love and affection for those that vote against me on the poll. They cannot help the fact that they were born fucked up!
Ok old timer in we go I’ll take you back to the retirement homeSpoiler(https://pics.drugstore.com/prodimg/426955/900.jpg)[close]
Nr37 played 111e often but we’re not on that record onceHe's selling wolf tickets bro :-X
:o
Nr37 played 111e often but we’re not on that record once
:o
The one time I remember scrimming him they had Emo Celestia, Viper, Shinto and Godfried himself lol. And i am sure they had some other solid players. I think they were named 98e at the time? And the match was like 11v11 or so, it felt like playing a melee stack for my regiment lol. But yeah the point is he has very little time actually leading and building his own regiment which kind of lowers his overall accomplishment as an individual leader imo.
I don't credit Godfreid that much because tl;dr while he was a good leader he struggled to find major success with his own regiments, rather I feel he found more success as a leader joining and leading other (bigger) regiments. Also led against him a decent amount of times so it's a little opinion as well.Like when? When did I struggle to find major success with my own regiments? And what do you consider major success? I never wanted to lower myself to playing in League 2, because I don't consider that a success, even winning it. As I've always said, coming in last place in league 1>winning league 2. Any time I've lead a regiment, I've led it in the most competitive setting available, and achieved as much as I believe the regiment could have.
Sure but it's also his job as leader to train them into better players and succeed regardless of circumstance. I feel he was recognized for his leadership more after the 98e when he was able to use good melee players to his advantage. Even during our TNWL match the 98e had a significant advantage over us in melee and we basically tied (I say basically because of shoddy refereeing)
111e
Wins = 20 Loses = 4 Ties = 7
111e 6 - 5 MoskovGren W
111e 7 - 3 35th W
111e 7 - 3 1erGren W
111e 6 - 5 33e W
111e 10 - 0 1erGren W
111e 5 - 5 3eVolt T
111e 7 - 3 3DM W
111e 4 - 6 USMC L NWL
111e 7 - 3 87th W NWL
111e 5 - 5 3DM T NWL
111e 3 - 7 15e L
111e 7 - 3 4teSLR W NWL
111e 1 - 9 Nr.7 L NWL
111e 5 - 5 22e T NWL
111e 5 - 5 Nr.7 T
111e 6 - 4 Nr.9 W NWL
111e 6 - 4 PSG W NWL
111e 9 - 1 80th W
111e 5 - 5 58e T
111e 7 - 3 45e W
111e 6 - 4 8th W
111e 7 - 3 2ySG W
111e 6 - 4 63e W
111e 5 - 5 PSG T
111e 8 - 2 4th W
111e 6 - 4 Nr.52 W
111e 6 - 4 30th W
111e 7 - 3 34e W NWPC
111e 5 - 5 58e T
111e 4 - 6 71st L
111e 7 - 3 1stRI W NWPC
Beat the 63e led by Karth, tied the 3eVolt led by Grim, beat and tied the PSG led by StJohn. Beat the 30th led by Panda. Tied 58e led by AsianP also beat them when led by others. Also beat Moskov Gren led by Ody. And i beat the 4th quite badly and Godfried was 2iC, to be fair he only led half of the map. All of which were declared official 1v1's or league matches no scrim b.s. I also have screens from just about all of those 1v1's if not videos.
So how exactly does Panda-Wind/StJohn/Ody/Stox and Godfried end up above me? Stox especially seems out of place as the 54th did way less 1v1's then most of the aforementioned regiments and their leaders. I also don't understand how Russian And Waste are lower then the guys I just mentioned as well. They had a melee stack for sure but they were still able to lead at a very high level.
89.8 - Grimsight (3eVolt)
85.7 - Zorkoth (12th)
85.5 - Cheeseypants (71st)
84.0 - Alexander (5th/75th)
83.7 - Ody (MoskovGren)
83.5 - Irish (6te)
83.0 - Stox (54th)
82.7 - Knight of St John (PSG)
82.7 - Godfreid (98e/4th)
82.3 - PurplePanda/Windflower (30th)
82.2 - Marceaux (111e/84e)
82.2 - RussianFury/Waste (LG)
The one time I remember scrimming him they had Emo Celestia, Viper, Shinto and Godfried himself lol. And i am sure they had some other solid players. I think they were named 98e at the time? And the match was like 11v11 or so, it felt like playing a melee stack for my regiment lol. But yeah the point is he has very little time actually leading and building his own regiment which kind of lowers his overall accomplishment as an individual leader imo.
It was 9v11, we were called 16thCS. Emo and Viper have never been in my regiments, shinto wasn't even there for it. My line up for that 1v1 was CANMAN, Ninja, Mameframe (Irishman who had 236 ping that day), Thumper, Mother_Maria, Myself, Bauer, Godskeet, Mjtheko. We ended up winning 6-4 on 2 clutches, 1 from me, 1 from CANMAN (who was honestly atrocious at melee, especially when he first joined, as Shinto might remember).
I don't see how I have very little time leading and building my own regiments. Nr48KH/98e/16thCS was entirely built and lead by myself. I brought back 7 guys who hadn't played in over a year (myself included) and we barely lost to the reg that ended up winning TNWL pro-league, in the group stage. After that I spent a lot of time recruiting, training and unrusting. Doing regular scrims against 58e, the vast majority of which ended 4-6, except 1 2-8, and we managed 1 6-4 win as 16thCS. By the end of 98e in TNWL we averaged 20-25 guys. We did get toasted vs 71st and 18th though.
I'm not looking for credit for doing what every reg leader does...I'm just not sure why I'm getting treated like I didn't also do those things.I don't credit Godfreid that much because tl;dr while he was a good leader he struggled to find major success with his own regiments, rather I feel he found more success as a leader joining and leading other (bigger) regiments. Also led against him a decent amount of times so it's a little opinion as well.Like when? When did I struggle to find major success with my own regiments? And what do you consider major success? I never wanted to lower myself to playing in League 2, because I don't consider that a success, even winning it. As I've always said, coming in last place in league 1>winning league 2. Any time I've lead a regiment, I've led it in the most competitive setting available, and achieved as much as I believe the regiment could have.Sure but it's also his job as leader to train them into better players and succeed regardless of circumstance. I feel he was recognized for his leadership more after the 98e when he was able to use good melee players to his advantage. Even during our TNWL match the 98e had a significant advantage over us in melee and we basically tied (I say basically because of shoddy refereeing)
I trained my guys to a level that you felt we held a significant melee advantage, and Marceaux felt like he was playing against a stack, when in reality I had like 99% no-names. But you don't feel I deserve credit for that. Almost all of the good melee players in the 4th during S6, were players I brought and trained (either there or previously in 98e), or Rex brought from the 80th. I did regular training's to work on Chemistry (which was a huge issue) and individual skill (which was also a pretty big issue generally). With that we managed to get 3rd place behind 3eVolt and 63e, and we even did better against 3eVolt in the playoffs than 63e did.
Idk, you guys act like I just show up, flex my bayonet, get handed a rank and profit. When that's just not and never has been the case.
Now, I genuinely do not care even a little about where I'm placed on this list, and absolutely none of this is a case to increase my rank. But, the things I've quoted I've found particularly irksome (minus the bit at the top regarding the 1v1, that was just a correction).
Grim should most definitely be a 90
-Lead the only regiment capable of realistically competing against the 12th, and the only regiment to beat them, twice.
-PIONEERED the reverse column (never forget)
-TNWL S1 run
-Won NANWL S6
CheeseyPants is also way too low. He should at least be high 80's, not mid 80's.Spoiler111e
Wins = 20 Loses = 4 Ties = 7
111e 6 - 5 MoskovGren W
111e 7 - 3 35th W
111e 7 - 3 1erGren W
111e 6 - 5 33e W
111e 10 - 0 1erGren W
111e 5 - 5 3eVolt T
111e 7 - 3 3DM W
111e 4 - 6 USMC L NWL
111e 7 - 3 87th W NWL
111e 5 - 5 3DM T NWL
111e 3 - 7 15e L
111e 7 - 3 4teSLR W NWL
111e 1 - 9 Nr.7 L NWL
111e 5 - 5 22e T NWL
111e 5 - 5 Nr.7 T
111e 6 - 4 Nr.9 W NWL
111e 6 - 4 PSG W NWL
111e 9 - 1 80th W
111e 5 - 5 58e T
111e 7 - 3 45e W
111e 6 - 4 8th W
111e 7 - 3 2ySG W
111e 6 - 4 63e W
111e 5 - 5 PSG T
111e 8 - 2 4th W
111e 6 - 4 Nr.52 W
111e 6 - 4 30th W
111e 7 - 3 34e W NWPC
111e 5 - 5 58e T
111e 4 - 6 71st L
111e 7 - 3 1stRI W NWPC
Beat the 63e led by Karth, tied the 3eVolt led by Grim, beat and tied the PSG led by StJohn. Beat the 30th led by Panda. Tied 58e led by AsianP also beat them when led by others. Also beat Moskov Gren led by Ody. And i beat the 4th quite badly and Godfried was 2iC, to be fair he only led half of the map. All of which were declared official 1v1's or league matches no scrim b.s. I also have screens from just about all of those 1v1's if not videos.
So how exactly does Panda-Wind/StJohn/Ody/Stox and Godfried end up above me? Stox especially seems out of place as the 54th did way less 1v1's then most of the aforementioned regiments and their leaders. I also don't understand how Russian And Waste are lower then the guys I just mentioned as well. They had a melee stack for sure but they were still able to lead at a very high level.
89.8 - Grimsight (3eVolt)
85.7 - Zorkoth (12th)
85.5 - Cheeseypants (71st)
84.0 - Alexander (5th/75th)
83.7 - Ody (MoskovGren)
83.5 - Irish (6te)
83.0 - Stox (54th)
82.7 - Knight of St John (PSG)
82.7 - Godfreid (98e/4th)
82.3 - PurplePanda/Windflower (30th)
82.2 - Marceaux (111e/84e)
82.2 - RussianFury/Waste (LG)[close]
The only time you beat the 4th when I was in it, was with the 6te, and we were both 2IC's during that 1v1. The 8-2 you have against the 4th I don't think I was even in the 4th during that, and certainly wasn't 2IC during that (Jorsonner or Naga would have been). I joined 4th after 16thCS fell apart early in NWPC and played for 4th for the remainder of NWPC until they disbanded in NANWL then joined 71st, but I wasn't a leader.
Crazy that you had one good tournament and that makes you an 82.3
SpoilerThe one time I remember scrimming him they had Emo Celestia, Viper, Shinto and Godfried himself lol. And i am sure they had some other solid players. I think they were named 98e at the time? And the match was like 11v11 or so, it felt like playing a melee stack for my regiment lol. But yeah the point is he has very little time actually leading and building his own regiment which kind of lowers his overall accomplishment as an individual leader imo.
It was 9v11, we were called 16thCS. Emo and Viper have never been in my regiments, shinto wasn't even there for it. My line up for that 1v1 was CANMAN, Ninja, Mameframe (Irishman who had 236 ping that day), Thumper, Mother_Maria, Myself, Bauer, Godskeet, Mjtheko. We ended up winning 6-4 on 2 clutches, 1 from me, 1 from CANMAN (who was honestly atrocious at melee, especially when he first joined, as Shinto might remember).
I don't see how I have very little time leading and building my own regiments. Nr48KH/98e/16thCS was entirely built and lead by myself. I brought back 7 guys who hadn't played in over a year (myself included) and we barely lost to the reg that ended up winning TNWL pro-league, in the group stage. After that I spent a lot of time recruiting, training and unrusting. Doing regular scrims against 58e, the vast majority of which ended 4-6, except 1 2-8, and we managed 1 6-4 win as 16thCS. By the end of 98e in TNWL we averaged 20-25 guys. We did get toasted vs 71st and 18th though.
I'm not looking for credit for doing what every reg leader does...I'm just not sure why I'm getting treated like I didn't also do those things.I don't credit Godfreid that much because tl;dr while he was a good leader he struggled to find major success with his own regiments, rather I feel he found more success as a leader joining and leading other (bigger) regiments. Also led against him a decent amount of times so it's a little opinion as well.Like when? When did I struggle to find major success with my own regiments? And what do you consider major success? I never wanted to lower myself to playing in League 2, because I don't consider that a success, even winning it. As I've always said, coming in last place in league 1>winning league 2. Any time I've lead a regiment, I've led it in the most competitive setting available, and achieved as much as I believe the regiment could have.Sure but it's also his job as leader to train them into better players and succeed regardless of circumstance. I feel he was recognized for his leadership more after the 98e when he was able to use good melee players to his advantage. Even during our TNWL match the 98e had a significant advantage over us in melee and we basically tied (I say basically because of shoddy refereeing)
I trained my guys to a level that you felt we held a significant melee advantage, and Marceaux felt like he was playing against a stack, when in reality I had like 99% no-names. But you don't feel I deserve credit for that. Almost all of the good melee players in the 4th during S6, were players I brought and trained (either there or previously in 98e), or Rex brought from the 80th. I did regular training's to work on Chemistry (which was a huge issue) and individual skill (which was also a pretty big issue generally). With that we managed to get 3rd place behind 3eVolt and 63e, and we even did better against 3eVolt in the playoffs than 63e did.
Idk, you guys act like I just show up, flex my bayonet, get handed a rank and profit. When that's just not and never has been the case.
Now, I genuinely do not care even a little about where I'm placed on this list, and absolutely none of this is a case to increase my rank. But, the things I've quoted I've found particularly irksome (minus the bit at the top regarding the 1v1, that was just a correction).
Grim should most definitely be a 90
-Lead the only regiment capable of realistically competing against the 12th, and the only regiment to beat them, twice.
-PIONEERED the reverse column (never forget)
-TNWL S1 run
-Won NANWL S6
CheeseyPants is also way too low. He should at least be high 80's, not mid 80's.Spoiler111e
Wins = 20 Loses = 4 Ties = 7
111e 6 - 5 MoskovGren W
111e 7 - 3 35th W
111e 7 - 3 1erGren W
111e 6 - 5 33e W
111e 10 - 0 1erGren W
111e 5 - 5 3eVolt T
111e 7 - 3 3DM W
111e 4 - 6 USMC L NWL
111e 7 - 3 87th W NWL
111e 5 - 5 3DM T NWL
111e 3 - 7 15e L
111e 7 - 3 4teSLR W NWL
111e 1 - 9 Nr.7 L NWL
111e 5 - 5 22e T NWL
111e 5 - 5 Nr.7 T
111e 6 - 4 Nr.9 W NWL
111e 6 - 4 PSG W NWL
111e 9 - 1 80th W
111e 5 - 5 58e T
111e 7 - 3 45e W
111e 6 - 4 8th W
111e 7 - 3 2ySG W
111e 6 - 4 63e W
111e 5 - 5 PSG T
111e 8 - 2 4th W
111e 6 - 4 Nr.52 W
111e 6 - 4 30th W
111e 7 - 3 34e W NWPC
111e 5 - 5 58e T
111e 4 - 6 71st L
111e 7 - 3 1stRI W NWPC
Beat the 63e led by Karth, tied the 3eVolt led by Grim, beat and tied the PSG led by StJohn. Beat the 30th led by Panda. Tied 58e led by AsianP also beat them when led by others. Also beat Moskov Gren led by Ody. And i beat the 4th quite badly and Godfried was 2iC, to be fair he only led half of the map. All of which were declared official 1v1's or league matches no scrim b.s. I also have screens from just about all of those 1v1's if not videos.
So how exactly does Panda-Wind/StJohn/Ody/Stox and Godfried end up above me? Stox especially seems out of place as the 54th did way less 1v1's then most of the aforementioned regiments and their leaders. I also don't understand how Russian And Waste are lower then the guys I just mentioned as well. They had a melee stack for sure but they were still able to lead at a very high level.
89.8 - Grimsight (3eVolt)
85.7 - Zorkoth (12th)
85.5 - Cheeseypants (71st)
84.0 - Alexander (5th/75th)
83.7 - Ody (MoskovGren)
83.5 - Irish (6te)
83.0 - Stox (54th)
82.7 - Knight of St John (PSG)
82.7 - Godfreid (98e/4th)
82.3 - PurplePanda/Windflower (30th)
82.2 - Marceaux (111e/84e)
82.2 - RussianFury/Waste (LG)[close]
The only time you beat the 4th when I was in it, was with the 6te, and we were both 2IC's during that 1v1. The 8-2 you have against the 4th I don't think I was even in the 4th during that, and certainly wasn't 2IC during that (Jorsonner or Naga would have been). I joined 4th after 16thCS fell apart early in NWPC and played for 4th for the remainder of NWPC until they disbanded in NANWL then joined 71st, but I wasn't a leader.[close]
I can almost swear I remember Nico losing very badly and stubbornly wanting to lead despite you being present. Then I recall you taking over and winning 2 of the last few rounds. However, I can't say for certain as it was so long ago and I played so many regiments it gets confusing sometimes when looking back on all the matches especially when several leaders led multiple different regiments at different times etc.
And yeah I was also wondering why there is a 5 point difference between Cheesey and Grim.
We could of won the league when we placed the 30th but Marso & Irish were too much of a pussy to charge 1 round.Crazy that you had one good tournament and that makes you an 82.3
The 30th weren't even supposed to win NAPL. If the 6teSLR didn't get caught using Maniac the 6te would've probably won the league. Plus if the Sil didn't bring mercs against the LG they could've won the league.Spoiler(https://i.gyazo.com/cd7e31e43e28ddde29962b00b2be50c4.png)[close]
We could of won the league when we placed the 30th but Marso & Irish were too much of a pussy to charge 1 round.Crazy that you had one good tournament and that makes you an 82.3
The 30th weren't even supposed to win NAPL. If the 6teSLR didn't get caught using Maniac the 6te would've probably won the league. Plus if the Sil didn't bring mercs against the LG they could've won the league.Spoiler(https://i.gyazo.com/cd7e31e43e28ddde29962b00b2be50c4.png)[close]
SpoilerThe one time I remember scrimming him they had Emo Celestia, Viper, Shinto and Godfried himself lol. And i am sure they had some other solid players. I think they were named 98e at the time? And the match was like 11v11 or so, it felt like playing a melee stack for my regiment lol. But yeah the point is he has very little time actually leading and building his own regiment which kind of lowers his overall accomplishment as an individual leader imo.
It was 9v11, we were called 16thCS. Emo and Viper have never been in my regiments, shinto wasn't even there for it. My line up for that 1v1 was CANMAN, Ninja, Mameframe (Irishman who had 236 ping that day), Thumper, Mother_Maria, Myself, Bauer, Godskeet, Mjtheko. We ended up winning 6-4 on 2 clutches, 1 from me, 1 from CANMAN (who was honestly atrocious at melee, especially when he first joined, as Shinto might remember).
I don't see how I have very little time leading and building my own regiments. Nr48KH/98e/16thCS was entirely built and lead by myself. I brought back 7 guys who hadn't played in over a year (myself included) and we barely lost to the reg that ended up winning TNWL pro-league, in the group stage. After that I spent a lot of time recruiting, training and unrusting. Doing regular scrims against 58e, the vast majority of which ended 4-6, except 1 2-8, and we managed 1 6-4 win as 16thCS. By the end of 98e in TNWL we averaged 20-25 guys. We did get toasted vs 71st and 18th though.
I'm not looking for credit for doing what every reg leader does...I'm just not sure why I'm getting treated like I didn't also do those things.I don't credit Godfreid that much because tl;dr while he was a good leader he struggled to find major success with his own regiments, rather I feel he found more success as a leader joining and leading other (bigger) regiments. Also led against him a decent amount of times so it's a little opinion as well.Like when? When did I struggle to find major success with my own regiments? And what do you consider major success? I never wanted to lower myself to playing in League 2, because I don't consider that a success, even winning it. As I've always said, coming in last place in league 1>winning league 2. Any time I've lead a regiment, I've led it in the most competitive setting available, and achieved as much as I believe the regiment could have.Sure but it's also his job as leader to train them into better players and succeed regardless of circumstance. I feel he was recognized for his leadership more after the 98e when he was able to use good melee players to his advantage. Even during our TNWL match the 98e had a significant advantage over us in melee and we basically tied (I say basically because of shoddy refereeing)
I trained my guys to a level that you felt we held a significant melee advantage, and Marceaux felt like he was playing against a stack, when in reality I had like 99% no-names. But you don't feel I deserve credit for that. Almost all of the good melee players in the 4th during S6, were players I brought and trained (either there or previously in 98e), or Rex brought from the 80th. I did regular training's to work on Chemistry (which was a huge issue) and individual skill (which was also a pretty big issue generally). With that we managed to get 3rd place behind 3eVolt and 63e, and we even did better against 3eVolt in the playoffs than 63e did.
Idk, you guys act like I just show up, flex my bayonet, get handed a rank and profit. When that's just not and never has been the case.
Now, I genuinely do not care even a little about where I'm placed on this list, and absolutely none of this is a case to increase my rank. But, the things I've quoted I've found particularly irksome (minus the bit at the top regarding the 1v1, that was just a correction).
Grim should most definitely be a 90
-Lead the only regiment capable of realistically competing against the 12th, and the only regiment to beat them, twice.
-PIONEERED the reverse column (never forget)
-TNWL S1 run
-Won NANWL S6
CheeseyPants is also way too low. He should at least be high 80's, not mid 80's.Spoiler111e
Wins = 20 Loses = 4 Ties = 7
111e 6 - 5 MoskovGren W
111e 7 - 3 35th W
111e 7 - 3 1erGren W
111e 6 - 5 33e W
111e 10 - 0 1erGren W
111e 5 - 5 3eVolt T
111e 7 - 3 3DM W
111e 4 - 6 USMC L NWL
111e 7 - 3 87th W NWL
111e 5 - 5 3DM T NWL
111e 3 - 7 15e L
111e 7 - 3 4teSLR W NWL
111e 1 - 9 Nr.7 L NWL
111e 5 - 5 22e T NWL
111e 5 - 5 Nr.7 T
111e 6 - 4 Nr.9 W NWL
111e 6 - 4 PSG W NWL
111e 9 - 1 80th W
111e 5 - 5 58e T
111e 7 - 3 45e W
111e 6 - 4 8th W
111e 7 - 3 2ySG W
111e 6 - 4 63e W
111e 5 - 5 PSG T
111e 8 - 2 4th W
111e 6 - 4 Nr.52 W
111e 6 - 4 30th W
111e 7 - 3 34e W NWPC
111e 5 - 5 58e T
111e 4 - 6 71st L
111e 7 - 3 1stRI W NWPC
Beat the 63e led by Karth, tied the 3eVolt led by Grim, beat and tied the PSG led by StJohn. Beat the 30th led by Panda. Tied 58e led by AsianP also beat them when led by others. Also beat Moskov Gren led by Ody. And i beat the 4th quite badly and Godfried was 2iC, to be fair he only led half of the map. All of which were declared official 1v1's or league matches no scrim b.s. I also have screens from just about all of those 1v1's if not videos.
So how exactly does Panda-Wind/StJohn/Ody/Stox and Godfried end up above me? Stox especially seems out of place as the 54th did way less 1v1's then most of the aforementioned regiments and their leaders. I also don't understand how Russian And Waste are lower then the guys I just mentioned as well. They had a melee stack for sure but they were still able to lead at a very high level.
89.8 - Grimsight (3eVolt)
85.7 - Zorkoth (12th)
85.5 - Cheeseypants (71st)
84.0 - Alexander (5th/75th)
83.7 - Ody (MoskovGren)
83.5 - Irish (6te)
83.0 - Stox (54th)
82.7 - Knight of St John (PSG)
82.7 - Godfreid (98e/4th)
82.3 - PurplePanda/Windflower (30th)
82.2 - Marceaux (111e/84e)
82.2 - RussianFury/Waste (LG)[close]
The only time you beat the 4th when I was in it, was with the 6te, and we were both 2IC's during that 1v1. The 8-2 you have against the 4th I don't think I was even in the 4th during that, and certainly wasn't 2IC during that (Jorsonner or Naga would have been). I joined 4th after 16thCS fell apart early in NWPC and played for 4th for the remainder of NWPC until they disbanded in NANWL then joined 71st, but I wasn't a leader.[close]
I can almost swear I remember Nico losing very badly and stubbornly wanting to lead despite you being present. Then I recall you taking over and winning 2 of the last few rounds. However, I can't say for certain as it was so long ago and I played so many regiments it gets confusing sometimes when looking back on all the matches especially when several leaders led multiple different regiments at different times etc.
And yeah I was also wondering why there is a 5 point difference between Cheesey and Grim.
Nah, if it happened pre-NWPC I wouldn't have even been in the regiment. But yeah, I get it.
Crazy that you had one good tournament and that makes you an 82.3
The 30th weren't even supposed to win NAPL. If the 6teSLR didn't get caught using Maniac the 6te would've probably won the league. Plus if the Sil didn't bring mercs against the LG they could've won the league.Spoiler(https://i.gyazo.com/cd7e31e43e28ddde29962b00b2be50c4.png)[close]
Ours tags were Nr8~LeibGrenadiers[Rank]NameCrazy that you had one good tournament and that makes you an 82.3
The 30th weren't even supposed to win NAPL. If the 6teSLR didn't get caught using Maniac the 6te would've probably won the league. Plus if the Sil didn't bring mercs against the LG they could've won the league.Spoiler(https://i.gyazo.com/cd7e31e43e28ddde29962b00b2be50c4.png)[close]
Only one merc in that picture and he didn't play vs the LG so no, LG got their ass spanked by us.
I beat Anthony, Maniac/Whatever other USMC leader was there and Lawrence all in 1v1s with the 10th! I am really good, Godfriend and I 2v9 a round during the USMC match!
Also, Grimsight is the best leader.
As I've always said, coming in last place in league 1>winning league 2.Agreed, not to mention in S6 NANWL people were refusing to play their regiments in league 1.. forcing the regs that rightfully should have been in league 2 to take their place and step up to much higher competition just so they didn't have to take all those possible L's.
As I've always said, coming in last place in league 1>winning league 2.Agreed, not to mention in S6 NANWL people were refusing to play their regiments in league 1.. forcing the regs that rightfully should have been in league 2 to take their place and step up to much higher competition just so they didn't have to take all those possible L's.
As I've always said, coming in last place in league 1>winning league 2.Agreed, not to mention in S6 NANWL people were refusing to play their regiments in league 1.. forcing the regs that rightfully should have been in league 2 to take their place and step up to much higher competition just so they didn't have to take all those possible L's.
That too lol
I loved being in the 30th, but it was straight doodoo without one or two big name carriesCrazy that you had one good tournament and that makes you an 82.3
The 30th weren't even supposed to win NAPL. If the 6teSLR didn't get caught using Maniac the 6te would've probably won the league. Plus if the Sil didn't bring mercs against the LG they could've won the league.Spoiler(https://i.gyazo.com/cd7e31e43e28ddde29962b00b2be50c4.png)[close]
As I've always said, coming in last place in league 1>winning league 2.Agreed, not to mention in S6 NANWL people were refusing to play their regiments in league 1.. forcing the regs that rightfully should have been in league 2 to take their place and step up to much higher competition just so they didn't have to take all those possible L's.
That too lol
If a few more regiments were in league 1 maybe we wouldn't have had to fight everybody twice ::)
very stupid mod teamAs I've always said, coming in last place in league 1>winning league 2.Agreed, not to mention in S6 NANWL people were refusing to play their regiments in league 1.. forcing the regs that rightfully should have been in league 2 to take their place and step up to much higher competition just so they didn't have to take all those possible L's.
That too lol
If a few more regiments were in league 1 maybe we wouldn't have had to fight everybody twice ::)
Ye, we should've thrown VB and HRE into league 1 to get smashed just so everyone wouldn't have to play twice. Why didn't the idiotic mod team think of that?
hate that mod teamBuncha poopoo heads
Why do you all care so much. I can smell all these egos from miles away.(https://www.meme-arsenal.com/memes/ad0bc659bbf1812ee92b6a14998b8984.jpg)
How the fuck did I not get on this list but Marceaux did, I led the 7thKGL against his 84e and I beat them when they had like a bunch of meleers nickcole, suns ectSpoilerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuvS-w-bCVs[close]
Put me on da list
How the fuck did I not get on this list but Marceaux did, I led the 7thKGL against his 84e and I beat them when they had like a bunch of meleers nickcole, suns ectI got shot quite a bit in this 1v1 especially the last fuckin round. :'(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuvS-w-bCVs
Put me on da list
Poor Cytiuz lmao that was dirty
tiny adjustmentsRussian and I are the champions of NA and SA now please up us
- Cytiuz (73.9)
- Gluk (74.8)
+ Yoshie (74.4)
Added - GlacialGriffin (MoskovGren) (72.0)
Yoshie has melee stack of all best NA players in community. Struggles against me with players equaling up to his hours alone. *Justified Demote*Poor Cytiuz lmao that was dirty
Didn't see you lead to begin with and added you because you asked me to add you. After a few times seeing you lead now I see you make a lot of amateurish mistakes, no offense..Yoshie has melee stack of all best NA players in community. Struggles against me with players equaling up to his hours alone. *Justified Demote*Poor Cytiuz lmao that was dirty
Why Bluenose on this list lmaoBecause he has lead competitively?
dude thanks for putting potus on the list im glad he got some recognition:-*
Glenn/Jolly - 80+
Or 70 - both work really
Glenn/Jolly - 80+
Or 70 - both work really
I think 69 fits for us together :-*
idk Unitater and Jolly would be a 70-75Uni and I didn't really work well together for leadering :p
Whens the next update?uh whenever I feel like it pretty much
idk Unitater and Jolly would be a 70-75Uni and I didn't really work well together for leadering :p
Why am I not on the list. I was Colonel back in 2012-2013.The GOAT has returned
That was 7 years ago now wth
Why am I not on the list. I was Colonel back in 2012-2013.lol where do you think you go on this list
That was 7 years ago now wth
smh why am I below GlukIdk man Gluk in his prime leading wasn't horrible, he had the 1erGren and they were decent enough to compete in the "League 2" scene and do well enough in a time where the scene was thriving with great regiments, and he did this mostly by himself.
smh why am I below GlukIdk man Gluk in his prime leading wasn't horrible, he had the 1erGren and they were decent enough to compete in the "League 2" scene and do well enough in a time where the scene was thriving with great regiments, and he did this mostly by himself.
That they aren't at least 85 is astounding. You would think winning all the tournaments, even as significant underdogs, would prove their status, but I guess the anti-LG bias still resounds.Put them higher than Irish at least. No offense Irish <3
That they aren't at least 85 is astounding. You would think winning all the tournaments, even as significant underdogs, would prove their status, but I guess the anti-LG bias still resounds.Put them higher than Irish at least. No offense Irish <3
That they aren't at least 85 is astounding. You would think winning all the tournaments, even as significant underdogs, would prove their status, but I guess the anti-LG bias still resounds.
I'll give it to you, you know how to TILT meThat they aren't at least 85 is astounding. You would think winning all the tournaments, even as significant underdogs, would prove their status, but I guess the anti-LG bias still resounds.
Wait, what?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF9Ub1vTeTo
I'll give it to you, you know how to TILT meThat they aren't at least 85 is astounding. You would think winning all the tournaments, even as significant underdogs, would prove their status, but I guess the anti-LG bias still resounds.
Wait, what?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF9Ub1vTeTo
hi I'm moraine let's have 1 round of overtime, oh furthermore let's just end the league 5 weeks early and give the W to a regiment that has only actually played 3 matches
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
(https://i.imgur.com/d0tCRMN.png)
yes we threw a 4-2 lead yes we're trash BUT FUCK godfreid only leader to consistently put up close matchups with us tho shoutout to the g man, oh and the big A P
and I guess the 30th
+1 LMAOOOOO this fucking guy is something else(https://mma-user-upload.mixedmartialarts.com/2020-01/1488427_o.gif)
imagine thinking windflower and purplepanda are better than marceauxstop capping brad you've never lead a line in ur life
I'll give it to you, you know how to TILT meThat they aren't at least 85 is astounding. You would think winning all the tournaments, even as significant underdogs, would prove their status, but I guess the anti-LG bias still resounds.
Wait, what?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF9Ub1vTeTo
hi I'm moraine let's have 1 round of overtime, oh furthermore let's just end the league 5 weeks early and give the W to a regiment that has only actually played 3 matches
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
(https://i.imgur.com/d0tCRMN.png)
yes we threw a 4-2 lead yes we're trash BUT FUCK godfreid only leader to consistently put up close matchups with us tho shoutout to the g man, oh and the big A P
and I guess the 30th
imagine thinking windflower and purplepanda are better than marceauxstop capping brad you've never lead a line in ur life
BabyJ led the LG to a W vs 25y.
Better than glenns leading. Mostly because glenn was acting like he was on a highway
falseimagine thinking windflower and purplepanda are better than marceauxstop capping brad you've never lead a line in ur life
imagine thinking windflower and purplepanda are better than marceauxstop capping brad you've never lead a line in ur life
I've been gone for a long time, not sure If I have ever seen this thread before but its really well done.Hey thank you John Price, appreciate it. :)
The NWL win vs 12th with Grim's 3eVolt was insanely fun and one of the best LB's I ever took part in across both EU and NA.
Gotta have an honorable mention to Cheesey's handling of TNWL vs 58e, insane.
No worries, would love to see something like this for EU but I don't think it would work out too well XDWhy would it not work out? If there's anyone to make a list like that it'd be you. :P
wait this argument already happened git fukt 40th
still old gen reg biased imo
wait this argument already happened git fukt 40th?
still old gen reg biased imo
I've been gone for a long time, not sure If I have ever seen this thread before but its really well done.Origin of the musket drop
The NWL win vs 12th with Grim's 3eVolt was insanely fun and one of the best LB's I ever took part in across both EU and NA.
Gotta have an honorable mention to Cheesey's handling of TNWL vs 58e, insane.
If you look at any 1v1s from like 2013, more then half the regs didn't know what a reverse was. As time goes regs don't get worse, they get better. I have had this argument with many people, and I have seen the best of both eras. If you get a new gen leader that is some-what league one material, they would absolutely crush regimental leaders who dropped off before 2015ish. Most of the high end old gen leaders would probably adjust to the era, but in terms of what is, and what was, the current era of leaders have adjusted from mistakes made in the earlier years. Tactics, and everything in general are just better. A good analogy for it would be in Baseball when people talk about Babe Ruth, while he was the best player of his era, and those years, he wouldn't be able to compete in this era, unless he took time to adjust to it. We saw something like this with Wardop when he reformed 1aSvea for the recent NANWL, he got dismantled in his first match, and the 1aSvea was disbanded half way into the season of NANWL, and even mid season he gave up his leading to more formidable leaders of the era.wait this argument already happened git fukt 40th?
still old gen reg biased imo
new gen leaders are kinda bad ngl
I still think me/russian or godfreid/anyone would manhandle the big brain leaderswait this argument already happened git fukt 40th?
still old gen reg biased imo
new gen leaders are kinda bad ngl
No.. just no.. we're talking about high tier leaders + regiments that have accomplished notable victories, there's a reason leaders like Hugonaut (no offense) aren't up there with the othersIf you look at any 1v1s from like 2013, more then half the regs didn't know what a reverse was. As time goes regs don't get worse, they get better. I have had this argument with many people, and I have seen the best of both eras. If you get a new gen leader that is some-what league one material, they would absolutely crush regimental leaders who dropped off before 2015ish. Most of the high end old gen leaders would probably adjust to the era, but in terms of what is, and what was, the current era of leaders have adjusted from mistakes made in the earlier years. Tactics, and everything in general are just better. A good analogy for it would be in Baseball when people talk about Babe Ruth, while he was the best player of his era, and those years, he wouldn't be able to compete in this era, unless he took time to adjust to it. We saw something like this with Wardop when he reformed 1aSvea for the recent NANWL, he got dismantled in his first match, and the 1aSvea was disbanded half way into the season of NANWL, and even mid season he gave up his leading to more formidable leaders of the era.wait this argument already happened git fukt 40th?
still old gen reg biased imo
new gen leaders are kinda bad ngl
I disagree but you're better than I gave you credit for on the tier list which I plan to change on the next update considering I remember you tying the 54th in NWL back in the Nr.37 when you were quite young though Idk if it was actually you or someone like Pinkerton leading.. At the end of the day its hard to compare who would beat who considering they've all been in charge of different regiments at different time periods.. like surely you can't argue Godfreid/Someone else leading his original regiments would manhandle any big brain leader or their regiment.. gotta be more specific in your opinionI still think me/russian or godfreid/anyone would manhandle the big brain leaderswait this argument already happened git fukt 40th?
still old gen reg biased imo
new gen leaders are kinda bad ngl
Shinto is undefeated leader... not on list... typical bias... jealous of shinto coolness...?(https://i.imgur.com/ucrpaQA.gif)
its mehstery????Shinto is undefeated leader... not on list... typical bias... jealous of shinto coolness...?(https://i.imgur.com/ucrpaQA.gif)
Tbh the reason Karth was so good was cause we trained a lot. Every other regiment I’ve been in has not come close to the amount of training and discipline than the 63e. It worked cause there wasn’t a lot of big egos in the 63e. Cause most people that think they’re too good to do line training were already in a different regiment. Nowadays you just have people not knowing what a wheel is or what a wing is. Pretty sad. Also some people still don’t know when reversing that turning left is faster than turning right.Discipline in general was wayyy more popular back then and every ranker in the line took it 100% serious.. Line discipline in general is really important as it allows your line to move quicker and more cohesively without taking shots. Karth/63e definitely trained a lot in that regard which benefited them and gave them an advantage over other regiments.. until the meta kinda shifted away from having less disciplined regiments as people found it less enjoyable as the community grew smaller and shifted away from being 1v1-centric.
Yeh Wardop was a bit rusty but its not hard for old leaders to start reverse columning in today's 1v1. When 1a 1v1 LG we lost 6-4 or 7-3 I think which isn't bad for his 1st time leading a 1v1 in like 6-7 years.If you look at any 1v1s from like 2013, more then half the regs didn't know what a reverse was. As time goes regs don't get worse, they get better. I have had this argument with many people, and I have seen the best of both eras. If you get a new gen leader that is some-what league one material, they would absolutely crush regimental leaders who dropped off before 2015ish. Most of the high end old gen leaders would probably adjust to the era, but in terms of what is, and what was, the current era of leaders have adjusted from mistakes made in the earlier years. Tactics, and everything in general are just better. A good analogy for it would be in Baseball when people talk about Babe Ruth, while he was the best player of his era, and those years, he wouldn't be able to compete in this era, unless he took time to adjust to it. We saw something like this with Wardop when he reformed 1aSvea for the recent NANWL, he got dismantled in his first match, and the 1aSvea was disbanded half way into the season of NANWL, and even mid season he gave up his leading to more formidable leaders of the era.wait this argument already happened git fukt 40th?
still old gen reg biased imo
new gen leaders are kinda bad ngl
Yeh Wardop was a bit rusty but its not hard for old leaders to start reverse columning in today's 1v1. When 1a 1v1 LG we lost 6-4 or 7-3 I think which isn't bad for his 1st time leading a 1v1 in like 6-7 years.If you look at any 1v1s from like 2013, more then half the regs didn't know what a reverse was. As time goes regs don't get worse, they get better. I have had this argument with many people, and I have seen the best of both eras. If you get a new gen leader that is some-what league one material, they would absolutely crush regimental leaders who dropped off before 2015ish. Most of the high end old gen leaders would probably adjust to the era, but in terms of what is, and what was, the current era of leaders have adjusted from mistakes made in the earlier years. Tactics, and everything in general are just better. A good analogy for it would be in Baseball when people talk about Babe Ruth, while he was the best player of his era, and those years, he wouldn't be able to compete in this era, unless he took time to adjust to it. We saw something like this with Wardop when he reformed 1aSvea for the recent NANWL, he got dismantled in his first match, and the 1aSvea was disbanded half way into the season of NANWL, and even mid season he gave up his leading to more formidable leaders of the era.wait this argument already happened git fukt 40th?
still old gen reg biased imo
new gen leaders are kinda bad ngl
We 7-3ed 1aSvea when y’all arguably may have had a better melee lineup than us and I think Godfreid was leading. We were also missing Russian so I had a angry french canadian in the backYeh Wardop was a bit rusty but its not hard for old leaders to start reverse columning in today's 1v1. When 1a 1v1 LG we lost 6-4 or 7-3 I think which isn't bad for his 1st time leading a 1v1 in like 6-7 years.If you look at any 1v1s from like 2013, more then half the regs didn't know what a reverse was. As time goes regs don't get worse, they get better. I have had this argument with many people, and I have seen the best of both eras. If you get a new gen leader that is some-what league one material, they would absolutely crush regimental leaders who dropped off before 2015ish. Most of the high end old gen leaders would probably adjust to the era, but in terms of what is, and what was, the current era of leaders have adjusted from mistakes made in the earlier years. Tactics, and everything in general are just better. A good analogy for it would be in Baseball when people talk about Babe Ruth, while he was the best player of his era, and those years, he wouldn't be able to compete in this era, unless he took time to adjust to it. We saw something like this with Wardop when he reformed 1aSvea for the recent NANWL, he got dismantled in his first match, and the 1aSvea was disbanded half way into the season of NANWL, and even mid season he gave up his leading to more formidable leaders of the era.wait this argument already happened git fukt 40th?
still old gen reg biased imo
new gen leaders are kinda bad ngl
We 7-3ed 1aSvea when y’all arguably may have had a better melee lineup than us and I think Godfreid was leading. We were also missing Russian so I had a angry french canadian in the backYeh Wardop was a bit rusty but its not hard for old leaders to start reverse columning in today's 1v1. When 1a 1v1 LG we lost 6-4 or 7-3 I think which isn't bad for his 1st time leading a 1v1 in like 6-7 years.If you look at any 1v1s from like 2013, more then half the regs didn't know what a reverse was. As time goes regs don't get worse, they get better. I have had this argument with many people, and I have seen the best of both eras. If you get a new gen leader that is some-what league one material, they would absolutely crush regimental leaders who dropped off before 2015ish. Most of the high end old gen leaders would probably adjust to the era, but in terms of what is, and what was, the current era of leaders have adjusted from mistakes made in the earlier years. Tactics, and everything in general are just better. A good analogy for it would be in Baseball when people talk about Babe Ruth, while he was the best player of his era, and those years, he wouldn't be able to compete in this era, unless he took time to adjust to it. We saw something like this with Wardop when he reformed 1aSvea for the recent NANWL, he got dismantled in his first match, and the 1aSvea was disbanded half way into the season of NANWL, and even mid season he gave up his leading to more formidable leaders of the era.wait this argument already happened git fukt 40th?
still old gen reg biased imo
new gen leaders are kinda bad ngl
Long time ago tho details are fuzzy y’all imploded like a week later
Russian and I made center/front/back reforms cool and drilled the shit out of them before using them
We 7-3ed 1aSvea when y’all arguably may have had a better melee lineup than us and I think Godfreid was leading. We were also missing Russian so I had a angry french canadian in the backYeh Wardop was a bit rusty but its not hard for old leaders to start reverse columning in today's 1v1. When 1a 1v1 LG we lost 6-4 or 7-3 I think which isn't bad for his 1st time leading a 1v1 in like 6-7 years.If you look at any 1v1s from like 2013, more then half the regs didn't know what a reverse was. As time goes regs don't get worse, they get better. I have had this argument with many people, and I have seen the best of both eras. If you get a new gen leader that is some-what league one material, they would absolutely crush regimental leaders who dropped off before 2015ish. Most of the high end old gen leaders would probably adjust to the era, but in terms of what is, and what was, the current era of leaders have adjusted from mistakes made in the earlier years. Tactics, and everything in general are just better. A good analogy for it would be in Baseball when people talk about Babe Ruth, while he was the best player of his era, and those years, he wouldn't be able to compete in this era, unless he took time to adjust to it. We saw something like this with Wardop when he reformed 1aSvea for the recent NANWL, he got dismantled in his first match, and the 1aSvea was disbanded half way into the season of NANWL, and even mid season he gave up his leading to more formidable leaders of the era.wait this argument already happened git fukt 40th?
still old gen reg biased imo
new gen leaders are kinda bad ngl
Long time ago tho details are fuzzy y’all imploded like a week later
Russian and I made center/front/back reforms cool and drilled the shit out of them before using them
No.We 7-3ed 1aSvea when y’all arguably may have had a better melee lineup than us and I think Godfreid was leading. We were also missing Russian so I had a angry french canadian in the backYeh Wardop was a bit rusty but its not hard for old leaders to start reverse columning in today's 1v1. When 1a 1v1 LG we lost 6-4 or 7-3 I think which isn't bad for his 1st time leading a 1v1 in like 6-7 years.If you look at any 1v1s from like 2013, more then half the regs didn't know what a reverse was. As time goes regs don't get worse, they get better. I have had this argument with many people, and I have seen the best of both eras. If you get a new gen leader that is some-what league one material, they would absolutely crush regimental leaders who dropped off before 2015ish. Most of the high end old gen leaders would probably adjust to the era, but in terms of what is, and what was, the current era of leaders have adjusted from mistakes made in the earlier years. Tactics, and everything in general are just better. A good analogy for it would be in Baseball when people talk about Babe Ruth, while he was the best player of his era, and those years, he wouldn't be able to compete in this era, unless he took time to adjust to it. We saw something like this with Wardop when he reformed 1aSvea for the recent NANWL, he got dismantled in his first match, and the 1aSvea was disbanded half way into the season of NANWL, and even mid season he gave up his leading to more formidable leaders of the era.wait this argument already happened git fukt 40th?
still old gen reg biased imo
new gen leaders are kinda bad ngl
Long time ago tho details are fuzzy y’all imploded like a week later
Russian and I made center/front/back reforms cool and drilled the shit out of them before using them
I gave Russian the idea of center form 8)
No.We 7-3ed 1aSvea when y’all arguably may have had a better melee lineup than us and I think Godfreid was leading. We were also missing Russian so I had a angry french canadian in the backYeh Wardop was a bit rusty but its not hard for old leaders to start reverse columning in today's 1v1. When 1a 1v1 LG we lost 6-4 or 7-3 I think which isn't bad for his 1st time leading a 1v1 in like 6-7 years.If you look at any 1v1s from like 2013, more then half the regs didn't know what a reverse was. As time goes regs don't get worse, they get better. I have had this argument with many people, and I have seen the best of both eras. If you get a new gen leader that is some-what league one material, they would absolutely crush regimental leaders who dropped off before 2015ish. Most of the high end old gen leaders would probably adjust to the era, but in terms of what is, and what was, the current era of leaders have adjusted from mistakes made in the earlier years. Tactics, and everything in general are just better. A good analogy for it would be in Baseball when people talk about Babe Ruth, while he was the best player of his era, and those years, he wouldn't be able to compete in this era, unless he took time to adjust to it. We saw something like this with Wardop when he reformed 1aSvea for the recent NANWL, he got dismantled in his first match, and the 1aSvea was disbanded half way into the season of NANWL, and even mid season he gave up his leading to more formidable leaders of the era.wait this argument already happened git fukt 40th?
still old gen reg biased imo
new gen leaders are kinda bad ngl
Long time ago tho details are fuzzy y’all imploded like a week later
Russian and I made center/front/back reforms cool and drilled the shit out of them before using them
I gave Russian the idea of center form 8)
Who needs formations and leadershonestly just charge like it's not that hard
All will be dead by 9y
The idea of reverse columns etc. were a thing even back in Mount and Musket. I remember in the 84e we were required to learn this on our Sunday trainings and this was in 2011. You know how I remember this? Aldemar (84e Col) had a very German way of saying column, so he would say "reverse COLUMNAAA".That's fair to say. I pointed out in what I said that I think most old gen leaders would adjust to the era very well, but I don't like people comparing old gen leaders to new gen leaders. Different era of play. While most old gens paved the way for what it is today, they didn't do what we do today. Which makes them obsolete in this era by comparison on what we have seen, but that isn't saying none of them would adjust to the era well. I am sure many would. That can be with anything, comparing players from eras is like comparing apples to oranges, the whole New gen vs Old Gen argument is about as blunt, and stupid as it gets.
If I remember rightly most NA's played with EU regiments back then that if NA's weren't doing even slightly complicated formations its because they just didn't, not because they didn't think of them or didn't know what they were.
Thats why on a list like this you give at least some props to good regiment leaders back then. They learned quickly whereas others were just ignorant.
We 7-3ed 1aSvea when y’all arguably may have had a better melee lineup than us and I think Godfreid was leading. We were also missing Russian so I had a angry french canadian in the backYeh Wardop was a bit rusty but its not hard for old leaders to start reverse columning in today's 1v1. When 1a 1v1 LG we lost 6-4 or 7-3 I think which isn't bad for his 1st time leading a 1v1 in like 6-7 years.If you look at any 1v1s from like 2013, more then half the regs didn't know what a reverse was. As time goes regs don't get worse, they get better. I have had this argument with many people, and I have seen the best of both eras. If you get a new gen leader that is some-what league one material, they would absolutely crush regimental leaders who dropped off before 2015ish. Most of the high end old gen leaders would probably adjust to the era, but in terms of what is, and what was, the current era of leaders have adjusted from mistakes made in the earlier years. Tactics, and everything in general are just better. A good analogy for it would be in Baseball when people talk about Babe Ruth, while he was the best player of his era, and those years, he wouldn't be able to compete in this era, unless he took time to adjust to it. We saw something like this with Wardop when he reformed 1aSvea for the recent NANWL, he got dismantled in his first match, and the 1aSvea was disbanded half way into the season of NANWL, and even mid season he gave up his leading to more formidable leaders of the era.wait this argument already happened git fukt 40th?
still old gen reg biased imo
new gen leaders are kinda bad ngl
Long time ago tho details are fuzzy y’all imploded like a week later
Russian and I made center/front/back reforms cool and drilled the shit out of them before using them
We 7-3ed 1aSvea when y’all arguably may have had a better melee lineup than us and I think Godfreid was leading. We were also missing Russian so I had a angry french canadian in the backYeh Wardop was a bit rusty but its not hard for old leaders to start reverse columning in today's 1v1. When 1a 1v1 LG we lost 6-4 or 7-3 I think which isn't bad for his 1st time leading a 1v1 in like 6-7 years.If you look at any 1v1s from like 2013, more then half the regs didn't know what a reverse was. As time goes regs don't get worse, they get better. I have had this argument with many people, and I have seen the best of both eras. If you get a new gen leader that is some-what league one material, they would absolutely crush regimental leaders who dropped off before 2015ish. Most of the high end old gen leaders would probably adjust to the era, but in terms of what is, and what was, the current era of leaders have adjusted from mistakes made in the earlier years. Tactics, and everything in general are just better. A good analogy for it would be in Baseball when people talk about Babe Ruth, while he was the best player of his era, and those years, he wouldn't be able to compete in this era, unless he took time to adjust to it. We saw something like this with Wardop when he reformed 1aSvea for the recent NANWL, he got dismantled in his first match, and the 1aSvea was disbanded half way into the season of NANWL, and even mid season he gave up his leading to more formidable leaders of the era.wait this argument already happened git fukt 40th?
still old gen reg biased imo
new gen leaders are kinda bad ngl
Long time ago tho details are fuzzy y’all imploded like a week later
Russian and I made center/front/back reforms cool and drilled the shit out of them before using them
We most certainly did not have a better melee line up, even before the 1a collapsed after the first match against 6te, it was getting stomped by LG in groupfights lol (LG at that time was basically LG + 42nd so not surprising), was literally Rune and I trying to carry that melee against you, Yoshie, Cwater, Risk, Superbad, Pinoy, Fireboy, Theodin, BabyJ etc., most of our other top meleer's like Maple, Caribou and Grimsight weren't active, and everyone else was like Glenn level at best.
Grimsight and I also had 0 time to know or improve what we were working with regiment wise since we were tossed into leading roles like a few days before the match after 1a had a bit of an implosion following the 6te match. Kind of discovered that people didn't know how to not run beside the line and that reversing just caused horrendous blobs, couldn't do quick shooting etc. just wasn't a lot to work with at that time.
I think if we had more time to train the regiment and improve it, it would have been great, but we didn't.
But it eez what it eez
I stand corrected I found the groupfight scores now you rightWe 7-3ed 1aSvea when y’all arguably may have had a better melee lineup than us and I think Godfreid was leading. We were also missing Russian so I had a angry french canadian in the backYeh Wardop was a bit rusty but its not hard for old leaders to start reverse columning in today's 1v1. When 1a 1v1 LG we lost 6-4 or 7-3 I think which isn't bad for his 1st time leading a 1v1 in like 6-7 years.If you look at any 1v1s from like 2013, more then half the regs didn't know what a reverse was. As time goes regs don't get worse, they get better. I have had this argument with many people, and I have seen the best of both eras. If you get a new gen leader that is some-what league one material, they would absolutely crush regimental leaders who dropped off before 2015ish. Most of the high end old gen leaders would probably adjust to the era, but in terms of what is, and what was, the current era of leaders have adjusted from mistakes made in the earlier years. Tactics, and everything in general are just better. A good analogy for it would be in Baseball when people talk about Babe Ruth, while he was the best player of his era, and those years, he wouldn't be able to compete in this era, unless he took time to adjust to it. We saw something like this with Wardop when he reformed 1aSvea for the recent NANWL, he got dismantled in his first match, and the 1aSvea was disbanded half way into the season of NANWL, and even mid season he gave up his leading to more formidable leaders of the era.wait this argument already happened git fukt 40th?
still old gen reg biased imo
new gen leaders are kinda bad ngl
Long time ago tho details are fuzzy y’all imploded like a week later
Russian and I made center/front/back reforms cool and drilled the shit out of them before using them
We most certainly did not have a better melee line up, even before the 1a collapsed after the first match against 6te, it was getting stomped by LG in groupfights lol (LG at that time was basically LG + 42nd so not surprising), was literally Rune and I trying to carry that melee against you, Yoshie, Cwater, Risk, Superbad, Pinoy, Fireboy, Theodin, BabyJ etc., most of our other top meleer's like Maple, Caribou and Grimsight weren't active, and everyone else was like Glenn level at best.
Grimsight and I also had 0 time to know or improve what we were working with regiment wise since we were tossed into leading roles like a few days before the match after 1a had a bit of an implosion following the 6te match. Kind of discovered that people didn't know how to not run beside the line and that reversing just caused horrendous blobs, couldn't do quick shooting etc. just wasn't a lot to work with at that time.
I think if we had more time to train the regiment and improve it, it would have been great, but we didn't.
But it eez what it eez
still not even on this list when people like gluk and spearman on hereDon't worry dude you'll be included in the next DLC patch.. honorable mentions.
1stfl beat 13thfl 10-0 easy for the title of best FL
#L1reg #10-0erryreg #1stFLbestFL
bruh do i get credit for making a EU and NA reg :Othe fuck outa here tony you're already on the list
bruh do i get credit for making a EU and NA reg :OMaking one is easy xd
Checked this forum just for the throwback and I appreciate my ranking on this, pretty fair tbh. the Nr7 never rivaled big name regiments and if we ever did its because the stars aligned on the right night for that to happen. Cheers though boys, fond memories looking back on itdon't beat urself up kid.. you were decent, better than most
f tier list still;D ;D ;D :-* :-* :-*
love u windy
Please remove russianfury off this list
your cr? Show some respect.Please remove russianfury off this listsorry who are u?
Oh we got a wise guy ovah herePlease remove russianfury off this listsorry who are u?Will do!!!
Oh we got a wise guy ovah herePlease remove russianfury off this listsorry who are u?Will do!!!
Oh we got a wise guy ovah herePlease remove russianfury off this listsorry who are u?Will do!!!
Are you okay?
NickCole should be top 5.for reforming and disbanding sure
NickCole should be top 5.
NickCole should be top 5.
I was following in your footsteps :-*NickCole should be top 5.for reforming and disbanding sure
GOAT spotted 😳 😳 😳NickCole should be top 5.I was following in your footsteps :-*NickCole should be top 5.for reforming and disbanding sure
I'M SO PROUD :'(NickCole should be top 5.I was following in your footsteps :-*NickCole should be top 5.for reforming and disbanding sure
It has been a while since this thread has been posted but i enjoy coming around to relive ssome of the moments of NW. I hold those days dear to heart(https://media.tenor.com/Z4MeTgzhPoUAAAAd/btd6-bloons.gif)AlexanderAlexander's regiments namely the 7y and 5th dominated the underground scene while they were active. They didn't really have the player base to compete with a lot of these high skilled regiments but it was mostly through Alexander's leadership and cohesion as a unit that led them to be able to compete with these regiments as well as keep dominating the "league 2" scene. Alexander managed to form a larger group with more experienced players in what would be his pinnacle in the 75th. He managed to lead his regiment to a league title which is an impressive feat no matter the time period, though it was against a practically fallen apart 18th squad. His workhorse attitude and commitment led them to that title and few can deny him that TNWL win. Unfortunately Alexander didn't find much success in NW after this as his future attempts at putting together a solid regiment failed and he was basically squashed out of the scene.[close]
Though many had bad things to say about me, i appreciate what was said here. It may have been Mount and Blade but in our regiments we trained hard. Our players had..questionable personalities to say the least but the compromise was that we trained hard and if you didnt show up, you didnt play in league. I think thats what made us a solid opponent for some of those heavy hitting regiments. I would have done some things differently if i had the chance to go back, but i regret nothing! thank you.
You have no friendsIt has been a while since this thread has been posted but i enjoy coming around to relive ssome of the moments of NW. I hold those days dear to heart(https://media.tenor.com/Z4MeTgzhPoUAAAAd/btd6-bloons.gif)AlexanderAlexander's regiments namely the 7y and 5th dominated the underground scene while they were active. They didn't really have the player base to compete with a lot of these high skilled regiments but it was mostly through Alexander's leadership and cohesion as a unit that led them to be able to compete with these regiments as well as keep dominating the "league 2" scene. Alexander managed to form a larger group with more experienced players in what would be his pinnacle in the 75th. He managed to lead his regiment to a league title which is an impressive feat no matter the time period, though it was against a practically fallen apart 18th squad. His workhorse attitude and commitment led them to that title and few can deny him that TNWL win. Unfortunately Alexander didn't find much success in NW after this as his future attempts at putting together a solid regiment failed and he was basically squashed out of the scene.[close]
Though many had bad things to say about me, i appreciate what was said here. It may have been Mount and Blade but in our regiments we trained hard. Our players had..questionable personalities to say the least but the compromise was that we trained hard and if you didnt show up, you didnt play in league. I think thats what made us a solid opponent for some of those heavy hitting regiments. I would have done some things differently if i had the chance to go back, but i regret nothing! thank you.
It has been a while since this thread has been posted but i enjoy coming around to relive ssome of the moments of NW. I hold those days dear to heartAlexanderAlexander's regiments namely the 7y and 5th dominated the underground scene while they were active. They didn't really have the player base to compete with a lot of these high skilled regiments but it was mostly through Alexander's leadership and cohesion as a unit that led them to be able to compete with these regiments as well as keep dominating the "league 2" scene. Alexander managed to form a larger group with more experienced players in what would be his pinnacle in the 75th. He managed to lead his regiment to a league title which is an impressive feat no matter the time period, though it was against a practically fallen apart 18th squad. His workhorse attitude and commitment led them to that title and few can deny him that TNWL win. Unfortunately Alexander didn't find much success in NW after this as his future attempts at putting together a solid regiment failed and he was basically squashed out of the scene.[close]
Though many had bad things to say about me, i appreciate what was said here. It may have been Mount and Blade but in our regiments we trained hard. Our players had..questionable personalities to say the least but the compromise was that we trained hard and if you didnt show up, you didnt play in league. I think thats what made us a solid opponent for some of those heavy hitting regiments. I would have done some things differently if i had the chance to go back, but i regret nothing! thank you.
sorry for interrupting your larpingYou have no friendsIt has been a while since this thread has been posted but i enjoy coming around to relive ssome of the moments of NW. I hold those days dear to heart(https://media.tenor.com/Z4MeTgzhPoUAAAAd/btd6-bloons.gif)AlexanderAlexander's regiments namely the 7y and 5th dominated the underground scene while they were active. They didn't really have the player base to compete with a lot of these high skilled regiments but it was mostly through Alexander's leadership and cohesion as a unit that led them to be able to compete with these regiments as well as keep dominating the "league 2" scene. Alexander managed to form a larger group with more experienced players in what would be his pinnacle in the 75th. He managed to lead his regiment to a league title which is an impressive feat no matter the time period, though it was against a practically fallen apart 18th squad. His workhorse attitude and commitment led them to that title and few can deny him that TNWL win. Unfortunately Alexander didn't find much success in NW after this as his future attempts at putting together a solid regiment failed and he was basically squashed out of the scene.[close]
Though many had bad things to say about me, i appreciate what was said here. It may have been Mount and Blade but in our regiments we trained hard. Our players had..questionable personalities to say the least but the compromise was that we trained hard and if you didnt show up, you didnt play in league. I think thats what made us a solid opponent for some of those heavy hitting regiments. I would have done some things differently if i had the chance to go back, but i regret nothing! thank you.
copyrightedYou have no friendsIt has been a while since this thread has been posted but i enjoy coming around to relive ssome of the moments of NW. I hold those days dear to heart(https://media.tenor.com/Z4MeTgzhPoUAAAAd/btd6-bloons.gif)AlexanderAlexander's regiments namely the 7y and 5th dominated the underground scene while they were active. They didn't really have the player base to compete with a lot of these high skilled regiments but it was mostly through Alexander's leadership and cohesion as a unit that led them to be able to compete with these regiments as well as keep dominating the "league 2" scene. Alexander managed to form a larger group with more experienced players in what would be his pinnacle in the 75th. He managed to lead his regiment to a league title which is an impressive feat no matter the time period, though it was against a practically fallen apart 18th squad. His workhorse attitude and commitment led them to that title and few can deny him that TNWL win. Unfortunately Alexander didn't find much success in NW after this as his future attempts at putting together a solid regiment failed and he was basically squashed out of the scene.[close]
Though many had bad things to say about me, i appreciate what was said here. It may have been Mount and Blade but in our regiments we trained hard. Our players had..questionable personalities to say the least but the compromise was that we trained hard and if you didnt show up, you didnt play in league. I think thats what made us a solid opponent for some of those heavy hitting regiments. I would have done some things differently if i had the chance to go back, but i regret nothing! thank you.
It has been a while since this thread has been posted but i enjoy coming around to relive ssome of the moments of NW. I hold those days dear to heartCongratulations on your success in Counter Strike! Hope you continue to find success and thanks for visiting the thread and leaving a nice post. I wrote that piece and looking back could've been a bit nicer, but I'm glad you liked it regardless.AlexanderAlexander's regiments namely the 7y and 5th dominated the underground scene while they were active. They didn't really have the player base to compete with a lot of these high skilled regiments but it was mostly through Alexander's leadership and cohesion as a unit that led them to be able to compete with these regiments as well as keep dominating the "league 2" scene. Alexander managed to form a larger group with more experienced players in what would be his pinnacle in the 75th. He managed to lead his regiment to a league title which is an impressive feat no matter the time period, though it was against a practically fallen apart 18th squad. His workhorse attitude and commitment led them to that title and few can deny him that TNWL win. Unfortunately Alexander didn't find much success in NW after this as his future attempts at putting together a solid regiment failed and he was basically squashed out of the scene.[close]
Though many had bad things to say about me, i appreciate what was said here. It may have been Mount and Blade but in our regiments we trained hard. Our players had..questionable personalities to say the least but the compromise was that we trained hard and if you didnt show up, you didnt play in league. I think thats what made us a solid opponent for some of those heavy hitting regiments. I would have done some things differently if i had the chance to go back, but i regret nothing! thank you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1If9JhVVEAthis is now a yeat thread
It has been a while since this thread has been posted but i enjoy coming around to relive ssome of the moments of NW. I hold those days dear to heartAlexanderAlexander's regiments namely the 7y and 5th dominated the underground scene while they were active. They didn't really have the player base to compete with a lot of these high skilled regiments but it was mostly through Alexander's leadership and cohesion as a unit that led them to be able to compete with these regiments as well as keep dominating the "league 2" scene. Alexander managed to form a larger group with more experienced players in what would be his pinnacle in the 75th. He managed to lead his regiment to a league title which is an impressive feat no matter the time period, though it was against a practically fallen apart 18th squad. His workhorse attitude and commitment led them to that title and few can deny him that TNWL win. Unfortunately Alexander didn't find much success in NW after this as his future attempts at putting together a solid regiment failed and he was basically squashed out of the scene.[close]
Though many had bad things to say about me, i appreciate what was said here. It may have been Mount and Blade but in our regiments we trained hard. Our players had..questionable personalities to say the least but the compromise was that we trained hard and if you didnt show up, you didnt play in league. I think thats what made us a solid opponent for some of those heavy hitting regiments. I would have done some things differently if i had the chance to go back, but i regret nothing! thank you.
I wouldn’t dareIt has been a while since this thread has been posted but i enjoy coming around to relive ssome of the moments of NW. I hold those days dear to heartAlexanderAlexander's regiments namely the 7y and 5th dominated the underground scene while they were active. They didn't really have the player base to compete with a lot of these high skilled regiments but it was mostly through Alexander's leadership and cohesion as a unit that led them to be able to compete with these regiments as well as keep dominating the "league 2" scene. Alexander managed to form a larger group with more experienced players in what would be his pinnacle in the 75th. He managed to lead his regiment to a league title which is an impressive feat no matter the time period, though it was against a practically fallen apart 18th squad. His workhorse attitude and commitment led them to that title and few can deny him that TNWL win. Unfortunately Alexander didn't find much success in NW after this as his future attempts at putting together a solid regiment failed and he was basically squashed out of the scene.[close]
Though many had bad things to say about me, i appreciate what was said here. It may have been Mount and Blade but in our regiments we trained hard. Our players had..questionable personalities to say the least but the compromise was that we trained hard and if you didnt show up, you didnt play in league. I think thats what made us a solid opponent for some of those heavy hitting regiments. I would have done some things differently if i had the chance to go back, but i regret nothing! thank you.
lil bro came out to give a speech from the retirement home