NW Decade Awards

[Wastee]

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Best player of decade obviously RussianFury

Tho if it’s pure skill based Yoshie but this is DECADE

if it's pure skill based its a tough question, if it's overall skill as a player and leader I'd argue AsianP

I'd agree with this statement.

I’d still put Russian above and this isn’t just him being the loml

Russian’s won more tournaments than any other player and has consistently been a top player the last 6 years. I’d even say prime Russian vs prime AsianP Russian is the better gfer Asian the better dueler

This is debatable tho, also I wouldn’t be surprised if some people put Jackie as the best

I think you are holding some bias there but you're entitled to your opinion. There's a thread that highlights the players with the most tournament wins of all time.. although it's probably a little outdated at this point. I remember seeing AsianP in the top 3 at least for most tournaments ever won, I think the others were like Tammo and Russian but even so it's close. When it comes to overall player skill though you have to include leading and I don't think it's very debatable if I were to say AsianP is tier(s) above RussianFury in this category not only because of what he's pioneered with leading but also what he's accomplished with his leading skill (not regimental skill) over the last decade, and no offense to what the LG's accomplished but I feel like late 2017 - 2020 is a very unimpressive era in NW in terms of regimental skill which is where we saw the LG dominate.

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here come the historians

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Yeah I operate the sheet of all tournament wins, AsianP has 4 less wins but only 7 first places whereas Russian has 15.

My opinion of the category is skill, not leadership (tho I still put Russian ahead on leadership)
Also bruh the last 4 years have been peak skill NW, there’s more competition at the highest level than ever before. I like you man but your only view into comp NW the last few years has been your occasional league you host where you primarily do administration work. You can have your opinions but they’re hardly well informed. Old gen “golden days” bias strikes again

LG, 40th, 6te, Godfreid Regs, I forget Jerrys reg name but that one, wipe the floor with old regs that were hailed as GOAT for beating on pub regs in 1v1s once a week.

Game competition didn’t deteriorate over time, it evolved. Now regiments are finally irrelevant

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GhNLuzYxqw4z9t3r5Q8UbLNHOW_2O6qRkKR_XYgnhbQ/

On my phone over lunch sorry if this is incoherent as fuck

I'm sorry but you cannot argue that a prime LG wouldn't get washed by a prime 12th.

Do you even know who all makes up prime LG? Look at 70% of your last league’s participants.

Washes, easily.

Piktonss rn would be a top 15 player in 2013

Like 90% of our remaining community were in the LG at some point, what's your point?

my point is that melee has evolved exponentially since the 12th existed


Lemme get this straight
For example you think

Tico, Breaches, Zorkoth, Who, Ghost, Coconut, Jackie, Zzheth washes

Russian, Yoshie, Me, Godfreid, Cwater, Jaax, Yoloswag, Rune

[Windflower]

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Best player of decade obviously RussianFury

Tho if it’s pure skill based Yoshie but this is DECADE

if it's pure skill based its a tough question, if it's overall skill as a player and leader I'd argue AsianP

I'd agree with this statement.

I’d still put Russian above and this isn’t just him being the loml

Russian’s won more tournaments than any other player and has consistently been a top player the last 6 years. I’d even say prime Russian vs prime AsianP Russian is the better gfer Asian the better dueler

This is debatable tho, also I wouldn’t be surprised if some people put Jackie as the best

I think you are holding some bias there but you're entitled to your opinion. There's a thread that highlights the players with the most tournament wins of all time.. although it's probably a little outdated at this point. I remember seeing AsianP in the top 3 at least for most tournaments ever won, I think the others were like Tammo and Russian but even so it's close. When it comes to overall player skill though you have to include leading and I don't think it's very debatable if I were to say AsianP is tier(s) above RussianFury in this category not only because of what he's pioneered with leading but also what he's accomplished with his leading skill (not regimental skill) over the last decade, and no offense to what the LG's accomplished but I feel like late 2017 - 2020 is a very unimpressive era in NW in terms of regimental skill which is where we saw the LG dominate.

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here come the historians

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Yeah I operate the sheet of all tournament wins, AsianP has 4 less wins but only 7 first places whereas Russian has 15.

My opinion of the category is skill, not leadership (tho I still put Russian ahead on leadership)
Also bruh the last 4 years have been peak skill NW, there’s more competition at the highest level than ever before. I like you man but your only view into comp NW the last few years has been your occasional league you host where you primarily do administration work. You can have your opinions but they’re hardly well informed. Old gen “golden days” bias strikes again

LG, 40th, 6te, Godfreid Regs, I forget Jerrys reg name but that one, wipe the floor with old regs that were hailed as GOAT for beating on pub regs in 1v1s once a week.

Game competition didn’t deteriorate over time, it evolved. Now regiments are finally irrelevant

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GhNLuzYxqw4z9t3r5Q8UbLNHOW_2O6qRkKR_XYgnhbQ/

On my phone over lunch sorry if this is incoherent as fuck

I'm sorry but you cannot argue that a prime LG wouldn't get washed by a prime 12th.

Do you even know who all makes up prime LG? Look at 70% of your last league’s participants.

Washes, easily.

Piktonss rn would be a top 15 player in 2013

Like 90% of our remaining community were in the LG at some point, what's your point?

[close]

my point is that melee has evolved exponentially since the 12th existed

and leading has exponentially degraded since the 12th existed
weird balance

[John Price]

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Best player of decade obviously RussianFury

Tho if it’s pure skill based Yoshie but this is DECADE

if it's pure skill based its a tough question, if it's overall skill as a player and leader I'd argue AsianP

I'd agree with this statement.

I’d still put Russian above and this isn’t just him being the loml

Russian’s won more tournaments than any other player and has consistently been a top player the last 6 years. I’d even say prime Russian vs prime AsianP Russian is the better gfer Asian the better dueler

This is debatable tho, also I wouldn’t be surprised if some people put Jackie as the best

I think you are holding some bias there but you're entitled to your opinion. There's a thread that highlights the players with the most tournament wins of all time.. although it's probably a little outdated at this point. I remember seeing AsianP in the top 3 at least for most tournaments ever won, I think the others were like Tammo and Russian but even so it's close. When it comes to overall player skill though you have to include leading and I don't think it's very debatable if I were to say AsianP is tier(s) above RussianFury in this category not only because of what he's pioneered with leading but also what he's accomplished with his leading skill (not regimental skill) over the last decade, and no offense to what the LG's accomplished but I feel like late 2017 - 2020 is a very unimpressive era in NW in terms of regimental skill which is where we saw the LG dominate.

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here come the historians

[close]

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Yeah I operate the sheet of all tournament wins, AsianP has 4 less wins but only 7 first places whereas Russian has 15.

My opinion of the category is skill, not leadership (tho I still put Russian ahead on leadership)
Also bruh the last 4 years have been peak skill NW, there’s more competition at the highest level than ever before. I like you man but your only view into comp NW the last few years has been your occasional league you host where you primarily do administration work. You can have your opinions but they’re hardly well informed. Old gen “golden days” bias strikes again

LG, 40th, 6te, Godfreid Regs, I forget Jerrys reg name but that one, wipe the floor with old regs that were hailed as GOAT for beating on pub regs in 1v1s once a week.

Game competition didn’t deteriorate over time, it evolved. Now regiments are finally irrelevant

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GhNLuzYxqw4z9t3r5Q8UbLNHOW_2O6qRkKR_XYgnhbQ/

On my phone over lunch sorry if this is incoherent as fuck

I'm sorry but you cannot argue that a prime LG wouldn't get washed by a prime 12th.

Do you even know who all makes up prime LG? Look at 70% of your last league’s participants.

Washes, easily.

Piktonss rn would be a top 15 player in 2013

Like 90% of our remaining community were in the LG at some point, what's your point?

[close]

my point is that melee has evolved exponentially since the 12th existed

and leading has exponentially degraded since the 12th existed
weird balance

I tale as old as...well NW kek

[Wastee]

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Best player of decade obviously RussianFury

Tho if it’s pure skill based Yoshie but this is DECADE

if it's pure skill based its a tough question, if it's overall skill as a player and leader I'd argue AsianP

I'd agree with this statement.

I’d still put Russian above and this isn’t just him being the loml

Russian’s won more tournaments than any other player and has consistently been a top player the last 6 years. I’d even say prime Russian vs prime AsianP Russian is the better gfer Asian the better dueler

This is debatable tho, also I wouldn’t be surprised if some people put Jackie as the best

I think you are holding some bias there but you're entitled to your opinion. There's a thread that highlights the players with the most tournament wins of all time.. although it's probably a little outdated at this point. I remember seeing AsianP in the top 3 at least for most tournaments ever won, I think the others were like Tammo and Russian but even so it's close. When it comes to overall player skill though you have to include leading and I don't think it's very debatable if I were to say AsianP is tier(s) above RussianFury in this category not only because of what he's pioneered with leading but also what he's accomplished with his leading skill (not regimental skill) over the last decade, and no offense to what the LG's accomplished but I feel like late 2017 - 2020 is a very unimpressive era in NW in terms of regimental skill which is where we saw the LG dominate.

Spoiler

here come the historians

[close]

[close]

Yeah I operate the sheet of all tournament wins, AsianP has 4 less wins but only 7 first places whereas Russian has 15.

My opinion of the category is skill, not leadership (tho I still put Russian ahead on leadership)
Also bruh the last 4 years have been peak skill NW, there’s more competition at the highest level than ever before. I like you man but your only view into comp NW the last few years has been your occasional league you host where you primarily do administration work. You can have your opinions but they’re hardly well informed. Old gen “golden days” bias strikes again

LG, 40th, 6te, Godfreid Regs, I forget Jerrys reg name but that one, wipe the floor with old regs that were hailed as GOAT for beating on pub regs in 1v1s once a week.

Game competition didn’t deteriorate over time, it evolved. Now regiments are finally irrelevant

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GhNLuzYxqw4z9t3r5Q8UbLNHOW_2O6qRkKR_XYgnhbQ/

On my phone over lunch sorry if this is incoherent as fuck

I'm sorry but you cannot argue that a prime LG wouldn't get washed by a prime 12th.

Do you even know who all makes up prime LG? Look at 70% of your last league’s participants.

Washes, easily.

Piktonss rn would be a top 15 player in 2013

Like 90% of our remaining community were in the LG at some point, what's your point?

[close]

my point is that melee has evolved exponentially since the 12th existed

and leading has exponentially degraded since the 12th existed
weird balance

this is so much cap I am in pain

I will get video evidence for you later don’t worry

[Windflower]

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Best player of decade obviously RussianFury

Tho if it’s pure skill based Yoshie but this is DECADE

if it's pure skill based its a tough question, if it's overall skill as a player and leader I'd argue AsianP

I'd agree with this statement.

I’d still put Russian above and this isn’t just him being the loml

Russian’s won more tournaments than any other player and has consistently been a top player the last 6 years. I’d even say prime Russian vs prime AsianP Russian is the better gfer Asian the better dueler

This is debatable tho, also I wouldn’t be surprised if some people put Jackie as the best

I think you are holding some bias there but you're entitled to your opinion. There's a thread that highlights the players with the most tournament wins of all time.. although it's probably a little outdated at this point. I remember seeing AsianP in the top 3 at least for most tournaments ever won, I think the others were like Tammo and Russian but even so it's close. When it comes to overall player skill though you have to include leading and I don't think it's very debatable if I were to say AsianP is tier(s) above RussianFury in this category not only because of what he's pioneered with leading but also what he's accomplished with his leading skill (not regimental skill) over the last decade, and no offense to what the LG's accomplished but I feel like late 2017 - 2020 is a very unimpressive era in NW in terms of regimental skill which is where we saw the LG dominate.

Spoiler

here come the historians

[close]

[close]

Yeah I operate the sheet of all tournament wins, AsianP has 4 less wins but only 7 first places whereas Russian has 15.

My opinion of the category is skill, not leadership (tho I still put Russian ahead on leadership)
Also bruh the last 4 years have been peak skill NW, there’s more competition at the highest level than ever before. I like you man but your only view into comp NW the last few years has been your occasional league you host where you primarily do administration work. You can have your opinions but they’re hardly well informed. Old gen “golden days” bias strikes again

LG, 40th, 6te, Godfreid Regs, I forget Jerrys reg name but that one, wipe the floor with old regs that were hailed as GOAT for beating on pub regs in 1v1s once a week.

Game competition didn’t deteriorate over time, it evolved. Now regiments are finally irrelevant

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GhNLuzYxqw4z9t3r5Q8UbLNHOW_2O6qRkKR_XYgnhbQ/

On my phone over lunch sorry if this is incoherent as fuck

I'm sorry but you cannot argue that a prime LG wouldn't get washed by a prime 12th.

Do you even know who all makes up prime LG? Look at 70% of your last league’s participants.

Washes, easily.

Piktonss rn would be a top 15 player in 2013

Like 90% of our remaining community were in the LG at some point, what's your point?

[close]

my point is that melee has evolved exponentially since the 12th existed

and leading has exponentially degraded since the 12th existed
weird balance

this is so much cap I am in pain

I will get video evidence for you later don’t worry

here's ur video evidence

Spoiler

[close]

[Dan the Seagull Chef]

no cap malikith and diplexheated had more influence than karth

[RussianFury]

Ah yes, our inferior leading compared to the 30th. It's not like most of those rounds we missed close shots like this:

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Also third month as a regiment and me as a leader. That's like comparing Aaron Rodgers first year as a QB and judging his career because of that. It seems as though someone is still butthurt they lost with their own mega stack regiment.

[Wastee]

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Best player of decade obviously RussianFury

Tho if it’s pure skill based Yoshie but this is DECADE

if it's pure skill based its a tough question, if it's overall skill as a player and leader I'd argue AsianP

I'd agree with this statement.

I’d still put Russian above and this isn’t just him being the loml

Russian’s won more tournaments than any other player and has consistently been a top player the last 6 years. I’d even say prime Russian vs prime AsianP Russian is the better gfer Asian the better dueler

This is debatable tho, also I wouldn’t be surprised if some people put Jackie as the best

I think you are holding some bias there but you're entitled to your opinion. There's a thread that highlights the players with the most tournament wins of all time.. although it's probably a little outdated at this point. I remember seeing AsianP in the top 3 at least for most tournaments ever won, I think the others were like Tammo and Russian but even so it's close. When it comes to overall player skill though you have to include leading and I don't think it's very debatable if I were to say AsianP is tier(s) above RussianFury in this category not only because of what he's pioneered with leading but also what he's accomplished with his leading skill (not regimental skill) over the last decade, and no offense to what the LG's accomplished but I feel like late 2017 - 2020 is a very unimpressive era in NW in terms of regimental skill which is where we saw the LG dominate.

Spoiler

here come the historians

[close]

[close]

Yeah I operate the sheet of all tournament wins, AsianP has 4 less wins but only 7 first places whereas Russian has 15.

My opinion of the category is skill, not leadership (tho I still put Russian ahead on leadership)
Also bruh the last 4 years have been peak skill NW, there’s more competition at the highest level than ever before. I like you man but your only view into comp NW the last few years has been your occasional league you host where you primarily do administration work. You can have your opinions but they’re hardly well informed. Old gen “golden days” bias strikes again

LG, 40th, 6te, Godfreid Regs, I forget Jerrys reg name but that one, wipe the floor with old regs that were hailed as GOAT for beating on pub regs in 1v1s once a week.

Game competition didn’t deteriorate over time, it evolved. Now regiments are finally irrelevant

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GhNLuzYxqw4z9t3r5Q8UbLNHOW_2O6qRkKR_XYgnhbQ/

On my phone over lunch sorry if this is incoherent as fuck

I'm sorry but you cannot argue that a prime LG wouldn't get washed by a prime 12th.

Do you even know who all makes up prime LG? Look at 70% of your last league’s participants.

Washes, easily.

Piktonss rn would be a top 15 player in 2013

Like 90% of our remaining community were in the LG at some point, what's your point?

[close]

my point is that melee has evolved exponentially since the 12th existed

and leading has exponentially degraded since the 12th existed
weird balance

this is so much cap I am in pain

I will get video evidence for you later don’t worry

here's ur video evidence

Spoiler

[close]

Ah yes a three year old video of one of the three times the 30th played the LG

4 months into Russian and I’s leading together extravaganza. Forget the other 3-4 years where we adapted new strategies and actually learned to play off each others leading styles and how to counter regiments that run

But wait if we tied Purple Panda but beat AsianP & Karth...PurplePanda better than AsianP and Karth???

I cannot tell if you’re trolling me because you know this stuff tilts me or you’re actually serious

[Windflower]

Ah yes, our inferior leading compared to the 30th. It's not like most of those rounds we missed close shots like this.

Spoiler

[close]

Also third month as a regiment and me as a leader. That's like comparing Aaron Rodgers first year as a QB and judging his career because of that.

I don't mean to put the 30th over the LG you guys are clearly the better regiment I meant to highlight how our regiment is kinda shit and how both of our leading here is very scuffed.. and if we're lookin' at the LGs history as a whole we gotta include the rough months pre-45e..

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Best player of decade obviously RussianFury

Tho if it’s pure skill based Yoshie but this is DECADE

if it's pure skill based its a tough question, if it's overall skill as a player and leader I'd argue AsianP

I'd agree with this statement.

I’d still put Russian above and this isn’t just him being the loml

Russian’s won more tournaments than any other player and has consistently been a top player the last 6 years. I’d even say prime Russian vs prime AsianP Russian is the better gfer Asian the better dueler

This is debatable tho, also I wouldn’t be surprised if some people put Jackie as the best

I think you are holding some bias there but you're entitled to your opinion. There's a thread that highlights the players with the most tournament wins of all time.. although it's probably a little outdated at this point. I remember seeing AsianP in the top 3 at least for most tournaments ever won, I think the others were like Tammo and Russian but even so it's close. When it comes to overall player skill though you have to include leading and I don't think it's very debatable if I were to say AsianP is tier(s) above RussianFury in this category not only because of what he's pioneered with leading but also what he's accomplished with his leading skill (not regimental skill) over the last decade, and no offense to what the LG's accomplished but I feel like late 2017 - 2020 is a very unimpressive era in NW in terms of regimental skill which is where we saw the LG dominate.

Spoiler

here come the historians

[close]

[close]

Yeah I operate the sheet of all tournament wins, AsianP has 4 less wins but only 7 first places whereas Russian has 15.

My opinion of the category is skill, not leadership (tho I still put Russian ahead on leadership)
Also bruh the last 4 years have been peak skill NW, there’s more competition at the highest level than ever before. I like you man but your only view into comp NW the last few years has been your occasional league you host where you primarily do administration work. You can have your opinions but they’re hardly well informed. Old gen “golden days” bias strikes again

LG, 40th, 6te, Godfreid Regs, I forget Jerrys reg name but that one, wipe the floor with old regs that were hailed as GOAT for beating on pub regs in 1v1s once a week.

Game competition didn’t deteriorate over time, it evolved. Now regiments are finally irrelevant

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GhNLuzYxqw4z9t3r5Q8UbLNHOW_2O6qRkKR_XYgnhbQ/

On my phone over lunch sorry if this is incoherent as fuck

I'm sorry but you cannot argue that a prime LG wouldn't get washed by a prime 12th.

Do you even know who all makes up prime LG? Look at 70% of your last league’s participants.

Washes, easily.

Piktonss rn would be a top 15 player in 2013

Like 90% of our remaining community were in the LG at some point, what's your point?

[close]

my point is that melee has evolved exponentially since the 12th existed

and leading has exponentially degraded since the 12th existed
weird balance

this is so much cap I am in pain

I will get video evidence for you later don’t worry

here's ur video evidence

Spoiler

[close]

[close]

Ah yes a three year old video of one of the three times the 30th played the LG

4 months into Russian and I’s leading together extravaganza. Forget the other 3-4 years where we adapted new strategies and actually learned to play off each others leading styles and how to counter regiments that run

But wait if we tied Purple Panda but beat AsianP & Karth...PurplePanda better than AsianP and Karth???

I cannot tell if you’re trolling me because you know this stuff tilts me or you’re actually serious

It's mostly a joke because I know it tilts you.. 

[RussianFury]

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Ah yes, our inferior leading compared to the 30th. It's not like most of those rounds we missed close shots like this.

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[close]

Also third month as a regiment and me as a leader. That's like comparing Aaron Rodgers first year as a QB and judging his career because of that.

I don't mean to put the 30th over the LG you guys are clearly the better regiment I meant to highlight how our regiment is kinda shit and how both of our leading here is very scuffed.. and if we're lookin' at the LGs history as a whole we gotta include the rough months pre-45e..

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Best player of decade obviously RussianFury

Tho if it%u2019s pure skill based Yoshie but this is DECADE

if it's pure skill based its a tough question, if it's overall skill as a player and leader I'd argue AsianP

I'd agree with this statement.

I%u2019d still put Russian above and this isn%u2019t just him being the loml

Russian%u2019s won more tournaments than any other player and has consistently been a top player the last 6 years. I%u2019d even say prime Russian vs prime AsianP Russian is the better gfer Asian the better dueler

This is debatable tho, also I wouldn%u2019t be surprised if some people put Jackie as the best

I think you are holding some bias there but you're entitled to your opinion. There's a thread that highlights the players with the most tournament wins of all time.. although it's probably a little outdated at this point. I remember seeing AsianP in the top 3 at least for most tournaments ever won, I think the others were like Tammo and Russian but even so it's close. When it comes to overall player skill though you have to include leading and I don't think it's very debatable if I were to say AsianP is tier(s) above RussianFury in this category not only because of what he's pioneered with leading but also what he's accomplished with his leading skill (not regimental skill) over the last decade, and no offense to what the LG's accomplished but I feel like late 2017 - 2020 is a very unimpressive era in NW in terms of regimental skill which is where we saw the LG dominate.

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here come the historians

[close]

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Yeah I operate the sheet of all tournament wins, AsianP has 4 less wins but only 7 first places whereas Russian has 15.

My opinion of the category is skill, not leadership (tho I still put Russian ahead on leadership)
Also bruh the last 4 years have been peak skill NW, there%u2019s more competition at the highest level than ever before. I like you man but your only view into comp NW the last few years has been your occasional league you host where you primarily do administration work. You can have your opinions but they%u2019re hardly well informed. Old gen %u201Cgolden days%u201D bias strikes again

LG, 40th, 6te, Godfreid Regs, I forget Jerrys reg name but that one, wipe the floor with old regs that were hailed as GOAT for beating on pub regs in 1v1s once a week.

Game competition didn%u2019t deteriorate over time, it evolved. Now regiments are finally irrelevant

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GhNLuzYxqw4z9t3r5Q8UbLNHOW_2O6qRkKR_XYgnhbQ/

On my phone over lunch sorry if this is incoherent as fuck

I'm sorry but you cannot argue that a prime LG wouldn't get washed by a prime 12th.

Do you even know who all makes up prime LG? Look at 70% of your last league%u2019s participants.

Washes, easily.

Piktonss rn would be a top 15 player in 2013

Like 90% of our remaining community were in the LG at some point, what's your point?

[close]

my point is that melee has evolved exponentially since the 12th existed

and leading has exponentially degraded since the 12th existed
weird balance

this is so much cap I am in pain

I will get video evidence for you later don%u2019t worry

here's ur video evidence

Spoiler

[close]

[close]

Ah yes a three year old video of one of the three times the 30th played the LG

4 months into Russian and I%u2019s leading together extravaganza. Forget the other 3-4 years where we adapted new strategies and actually learned to play off each others leading styles and how to counter regiments that run

But wait if we tied Purple Panda but beat AsianP & Karth...PurplePanda better than AsianP and Karth???

I cannot tell if you%u2019re trolling me because you know this stuff tilts me or you%u2019re actually serious

It's mostly a joke because I know it tilts you.. 

[close]

That's like comparing Aaron Rodgers first year as a QB and judging his career because of that. Furthermore, our regiment was still talented before the 45e merged into us. We lost a portion of our guys after NWL S7 due to the 3e reforming, but eventually began to win.

[ShintoSkookum]

Completely unironically juice kelly is the best player of all time. If we’re talking in terms of melee skill, then no. But his skill as a sapper is completely unmatched. For melee there are actually arguments for who is the best meleer as seen in this thread. Juice DOMINATED the scene for his whole career and nobody has come close to getting as many kills as a sapper as he did. That man would clutch 1v7s on the daily with his explosive prowess. It’s to the point where I legitimately think he created the game files or memorized the exact explosion radius of his devices. I know most of you noobs (like Yoshie) weren’t around for him but his dominance at his position is unmatched. Juice Kelly gets my vote as the best player of the decade.

[Windflower]

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Ah yes, our inferior leading compared to the 30th. It's not like most of those rounds we missed close shots like this.

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[close]

Also third month as a regiment and me as a leader. That's like comparing Aaron Rodgers first year as a QB and judging his career because of that.

I don't mean to put the 30th over the LG you guys are clearly the better regiment I meant to highlight how our regiment is kinda shit and how both of our leading here is very scuffed.. and if we're lookin' at the LGs history as a whole we gotta include the rough months pre-45e..

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Best player of decade obviously RussianFury

Tho if it’s pure skill based Yoshie but this is DECADE

if it's pure skill based its a tough question, if it's overall skill as a player and leader I'd argue AsianP

I'd agree with this statement.

I’d still put Russian above and this isn’t just him being the loml

Russian’s won more tournaments than any other player and has consistently been a top player the last 6 years. I’d even say prime Russian vs prime AsianP Russian is the better gfer Asian the better dueler

This is debatable tho, also I wouldn’t be surprised if some people put Jackie as the best

I think you are holding some bias there but you're entitled to your opinion. There's a thread that highlights the players with the most tournament wins of all time.. although it's probably a little outdated at this point. I remember seeing AsianP in the top 3 at least for most tournaments ever won, I think the others were like Tammo and Russian but even so it's close. When it comes to overall player skill though you have to include leading and I don't think it's very debatable if I were to say AsianP is tier(s) above RussianFury in this category not only because of what he's pioneered with leading but also what he's accomplished with his leading skill (not regimental skill) over the last decade, and no offense to what the LG's accomplished but I feel like late 2017 - 2020 is a very unimpressive era in NW in terms of regimental skill which is where we saw the LG dominate.

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Yeah I operate the sheet of all tournament wins, AsianP has 4 less wins but only 7 first places whereas Russian has 15.

My opinion of the category is skill, not leadership (tho I still put Russian ahead on leadership)
Also bruh the last 4 years have been peak skill NW, there’s more competition at the highest level than ever before. I like you man but your only view into comp NW the last few years has been your occasional league you host where you primarily do administration work. You can have your opinions but they’re hardly well informed. Old gen “golden days” bias strikes again

LG, 40th, 6te, Godfreid Regs, I forget Jerrys reg name but that one, wipe the floor with old regs that were hailed as GOAT for beating on pub regs in 1v1s once a week.

Game competition didn’t deteriorate over time, it evolved. Now regiments are finally irrelevant

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GhNLuzYxqw4z9t3r5Q8UbLNHOW_2O6qRkKR_XYgnhbQ/

On my phone over lunch sorry if this is incoherent as fuck

I'm sorry but you cannot argue that a prime LG wouldn't get washed by a prime 12th.

Do you even know who all makes up prime LG? Look at 70% of your last league’s participants.

Washes, easily.

Piktonss rn would be a top 15 player in 2013

Like 90% of our remaining community were in the LG at some point, what's your point?

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my point is that melee has evolved exponentially since the 12th existed

and leading has exponentially degraded since the 12th existed
weird balance

this is so much cap I am in pain

I will get video evidence for you later don’t worry

here's ur video evidence

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Ah yes a three year old video of one of the three times the 30th played the LG

4 months into Russian and I’s leading together extravaganza. Forget the other 3-4 years where we adapted new strategies and actually learned to play off each others leading styles and how to counter regiments that run

But wait if we tied Purple Panda but beat AsianP & Karth...PurplePanda better than AsianP and Karth???

I cannot tell if you’re trolling me because you know this stuff tilts me or you’re actually serious

It's mostly a joke because I know it tilts you.. 

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That's like comparing Aaron Rodgers first year as a QB and judging his career because of that. Furthermore, our regiment was still talented before the 45e merged into us. We lost a portion of our guys after NWL S7 due to the 3e reforming, but eventually began to win.

Didn't mean any disrespect to your e-peen, sir, and I think my original point has been diluded. I was only trying to imply that if you had trouble dealing with the 30th (3months into our existence as well) that your regiment would have a hard time beating the 12th! Please do not let my opinion offend you, it doesn't mean much and there are basically 0 regiments I think that could have beaten them in their prime. I think your regiment was still talented even before the 45e merge I agree, which is why I thought it was completely unnessecary when it happened.

[Wastee]

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Ah yes, our inferior leading compared to the 30th. It's not like most of those rounds we missed close shots like this.

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Also third month as a regiment and me as a leader. That's like comparing Aaron Rodgers first year as a QB and judging his career because of that.

I don't mean to put the 30th over the LG you guys are clearly the better regiment I meant to highlight how our regiment is kinda shit and how both of our leading here is very scuffed.. and if we're lookin' at the LGs history as a whole we gotta include the rough months pre-45e..

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Best player of decade obviously RussianFury

Tho if it%u2019s pure skill based Yoshie but this is DECADE

if it's pure skill based its a tough question, if it's overall skill as a player and leader I'd argue AsianP

I'd agree with this statement.

I%u2019d still put Russian above and this isn%u2019t just him being the loml

Russian%u2019s won more tournaments than any other player and has consistently been a top player the last 6 years. I%u2019d even say prime Russian vs prime AsianP Russian is the better gfer Asian the better dueler

This is debatable tho, also I wouldn%u2019t be surprised if some people put Jackie as the best

I think you are holding some bias there but you're entitled to your opinion. There's a thread that highlights the players with the most tournament wins of all time.. although it's probably a little outdated at this point. I remember seeing AsianP in the top 3 at least for most tournaments ever won, I think the others were like Tammo and Russian but even so it's close. When it comes to overall player skill though you have to include leading and I don't think it's very debatable if I were to say AsianP is tier(s) above RussianFury in this category not only because of what he's pioneered with leading but also what he's accomplished with his leading skill (not regimental skill) over the last decade, and no offense to what the LG's accomplished but I feel like late 2017 - 2020 is a very unimpressive era in NW in terms of regimental skill which is where we saw the LG dominate.

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here come the historians

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Yeah I operate the sheet of all tournament wins, AsianP has 4 less wins but only 7 first places whereas Russian has 15.

My opinion of the category is skill, not leadership (tho I still put Russian ahead on leadership)
Also bruh the last 4 years have been peak skill NW, there%u2019s more competition at the highest level than ever before. I like you man but your only view into comp NW the last few years has been your occasional league you host where you primarily do administration work. You can have your opinions but they%u2019re hardly well informed. Old gen %u201Cgolden days%u201D bias strikes again

LG, 40th, 6te, Godfreid Regs, I forget Jerrys reg name but that one, wipe the floor with old regs that were hailed as GOAT for beating on pub regs in 1v1s once a week.

Game competition didn%u2019t deteriorate over time, it evolved. Now regiments are finally irrelevant

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GhNLuzYxqw4z9t3r5Q8UbLNHOW_2O6qRkKR_XYgnhbQ/

On my phone over lunch sorry if this is incoherent as fuck

I'm sorry but you cannot argue that a prime LG wouldn't get washed by a prime 12th.

Do you even know who all makes up prime LG? Look at 70% of your last league%u2019s participants.

Washes, easily.

Piktonss rn would be a top 15 player in 2013

Like 90% of our remaining community were in the LG at some point, what's your point?

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my point is that melee has evolved exponentially since the 12th existed

and leading has exponentially degraded since the 12th existed
weird balance

this is so much cap I am in pain

I will get video evidence for you later don%u2019t worry

here's ur video evidence

Spoiler

[close]

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Ah yes a three year old video of one of the three times the 30th played the LG

4 months into Russian and I%u2019s leading together extravaganza. Forget the other 3-4 years where we adapted new strategies and actually learned to play off each others leading styles and how to counter regiments that run

But wait if we tied Purple Panda but beat AsianP & Karth...PurplePanda better than AsianP and Karth???

I cannot tell if you%u2019re trolling me because you know this stuff tilts me or you%u2019re actually serious

It's mostly a joke because I know it tilts you.. 

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That's like comparing Aaron Rodgers first year as a QB and judging his career because of that. Furthermore, our regiment was still talented before the 45e merged into us. We lost a portion of our guys after NWL S7 due to the 3e reforming, but eventually began to win.

yall were good but the skill gap from 3eVolt to LG was obvious. Before 45e merged LG was some mid like LG was definitely the 2nd best regiment but 3eVolt was far better than the LG before the 45e joined.

3e and LG traded wins before and after the 45e merged. Under the 3e name they had more wins against us but we lasted longer and continued to grow

Also depends on if you count 91st, 42nd, and 98e as 3e or completely new regs

[~NickCole~]

best recruiter thx

i might have taken that title from ya. 

[Theodin]

The 71st was the best regiment of the decade and I’m serious
For me it’s
71st
63e
LG
12th
3e and other reforms

Also why do we still count Windflower as someone with any insight into competitive NW? Few notable accomplishments except for the admittedly successful PSG