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Title: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 16, 2021, 12:12:57 pm
(https://i.gyazo.com/3889cd4f07d364975c93ceb5a0c6b360.png)

Cleaned Votes (http://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UOpv1RoE9GCWVsew0epCOmRsNd6PGTpw8ZRxhowGOk4/)

Decade NW Award Winners

Regimental Special Award
1stRddt, 32nd, 33rd, 77y, 87th

Content Awards
Best Content Creator - Herishey
Best Video - 83rd Showing Off Their Melee Skills
Best Post - All Time NW List - Herishey and Gibby
Best Quote - LeBrave

European Awards
Best Meme - 15thYR vs 92nd
Best Memer - Gunzo
Most Cringey - Drake
Most Toxic - Obelix
Most Influential - Herishey
Best Player - Python
Best Regiment - 15thYR
Best Team - FrenchTouch
Best Match - 15thYR vs 92nd RGL
Best Event - RGL
The Groupfighting Server Best Server Award - Groupfighting Server


North American Awards
Best Meme - Wastee’s Ephebophilia
Best Memer - Shinto
Most Cringey - Cytiuz
Most Toxic - Suns
Most Influential - JackieChan
Best Player - JackieChan
Best Regiment - LG
Best Team - LG
Best Match - LG vs 40th IRL Finals
Best Event - NANWL
Best Server - NA Groupfighting

Thanks and Notes
Thanks Devs
Thanks MBcomp.org (http://MBcomp.org)
Thanks Chefs of Swaziland
Give NW Awards a subboard

Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 16, 2021, 12:13:10 pm
Voting Form (https://forms.gle/ntp51S1ET4pu23bNA)

Any questions, comments, or concerns, please leave them in the thread!



Content Awards

Best Content Creator
Chadman (https://www.youtube.com/user/TheChadtopia)
Elsse (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzEpnO0uVgJ7DPXk11bre6g)
Faisan (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCM0MOmNcxpSKfWJB25Hm-7A)
Flopz (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCt3uoG9KzEmZlSa_YNbH5GA)
GlennofNW (https://www.youtube.com/user/ItsaTOTBayBay)
Herishey (http://www.youtube.com/c/HerisheyUK)
Lonedoge (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuB0AHJRV0B4Tbq1sWsgzEg)
Malakith  (https://www.youtube.com/user/MalakithSkadi)
Shadey (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4Hmg34XBT_AEGBYMgGJIzg)
Stryker (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZTLU9z1NrUXBOFGHG0k3ZA)


Best Videos
15thYR vs 92nd with maskman commentary (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj6MXmswRu4&feature=youtu.be)
83rd Showing Off Their Melee Skills (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOr7_2It07I&feature=youtu.be)
When I'm 15thYR (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nhu-UZK3Vk&feature=youtu.be)
How to get unbanned from botsurvival (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOfmEKEgiig&feature=youtu.be)


Best Post
All Time NW List - Herishey and Gibby (http://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=43949.0)
This tournament is an epic jock, I have never see cela - LeBrave (https://i.gyazo.com/eb483142bc837ac25c3899c0b53ad53e.png)


Best Quote
"Oh fuck right off you 2nd rate leader, you can only live of the success of something other people have build for you in the past so you can carry on with the remnants." - Pieter
"We are big they are small."
"This tournament is an epic jock, I have never see cela..." - LeBrave (https://i.gyazo.com/eb483142bc837ac25c3899c0b53ad53e.png)
"Year of underdogs" - Alexander (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0Bh7eBvR0c&feature=youtu.be)






EU Nominations
Note: I think I have to increase the amount of nominations required to get nominated because 11 nominees is probably too many

Best Meme
"ed" meme by the Grouped team.
#weak   
15thYR vs 92nd
Lebrave epic Jock
Tavington Donations


Best Memer
Faisan
Fungus
Gunzo
Phailur
Rikkert
Vegi


Most Cringey
Drake
Niphix
Pieter
Vegi
Unicorn


Most Toxic
Golden
Obelix
Pieter
Rikkert
Vegi


Most Influential
Bobertini
Faisan
Hekko
Herishey
Tardet


Best Player
Drake
Evanovic
Extazz
Python
Tiberias


Best Regiment
14e
15thYR
17e
66th
77y
92nd
Nr.24


Best Team
ChimpZ
FrenchTouch
Grouped
JediMasters
Poosy
TFFO


Best Match
15th vs 92nd RGL
45thN vs 92nd
85e vs 17e RGL


Best Event
NWL
RGL
Trench Battle


Best Server
Groupfighting Server
Killbox
NW Roleplay Server
Ricky Groupfighting
Tropical paradise






NA Nominations

Best Meme
Alexander underdog speech
Puppytron
This Game
Wastee’s Ephebophilia


Best Memer
DantheChef
Pedro
Puppytron
Shinto
Winters


Most Cringey
BillTheButcher
Cytiuz
Matt
Mayhem


Most Toxic
BillTheButcher
Cwater
Suns
VetroG
Yoshie


Most Influential
JackieChan
Jolly
Karth
Wastee


Best Player
AsianP
Jaax
JackieChan
Russianfury
Yoshie


Best Regiment
12th
3eVolt
63e
71st
LG


Best Team
Aces
Atomic
LG


Best Match
63e vs 71st S4 NANWL
71st vs 58e TNWL
LG vs 40th IRL


Best Event
00th Friday Event
NANWL
TNWL


Best Server
BBG_Bot_Survival
BoB Groupfighting
NA Groupfighting
NA1





Spreadsheet with the votes with the names removed and the data mostly cleaned (http://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1abXt8qcNQ9iPy7PVELYNtim3B1xHpguGRV-chM4ANdg)
Do note, the single votes were from multiple nominations in a single category that I split off.

Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 16, 2021, 12:13:23 pm
Nomination Form (https://forms.gle/9XUsHKtPudjLAhoN6)
Nominations close Sunday the 24th at 11:59PM PST
I am allowing the nomination of up to three(3) people for each category. Any more then that will be ignored. Please put your preferred candidate first as they will count for more if need be.
For Best Video, Post, and Quote please put at least the creator and the link/screenshot to the submission in your nomination.
For Best Match, please be specific and at least include the competition.



Community Awards
* indicate that EU and NA have individual awards
Best Meme* - The Best Meme award is presented to the the best meme.
Best Memer* - The Best Memer award is presented to the person who has consistently created quality memes throughout the decade.
Most Cringey* - The Most Cringey award is presented to the person who has, through the decade, shown themselves to consistently be extremely awkward or cause embarrassment to themselves.
Most Toxic* - The Most Toxic award is an award that is presented to the person has shown themselves to be the most unpleasant throughout the decade.
Most Influential* - The Most Influential award is presented to the Person that has shown the greatest influence over the community in the last decade.


Content Awards
Best Content Creator - The Best Content Creator award is an award that is presented to the person has shown themselves to create the best content throughout the decade.
Best Video - The Best Video award is an award that is presented to the communities favorite video throughout the decade.
Best Post - The Best Post award is presented to the person who has created, or continued to update, the best post.
Best Quote - The Best Quote award is presented to the person who has delivered the best quote during the past decade.


In-Game Awards
Best Player* - The Best Player award is presented to the person has shown themselves to be the most impactful player throughout the decade.
Best Regiment* - The Best Regiment award is presented to the regiment that has shown themselves to be the most skilled throughout the decade.
Best Team* - The Best Team award is presented to the Team that has shown themselves to be the most skilled throughout the decade.
Best Match* - The Best Match award is presented to the Match adjudged to be the best throughout the decade.
Best Event/Event Series* - The Best Event award is presented to the Event that people liked the most throughout the decade.
Best Server* - The Best Server award is presented to the Server that people liked the most throughout the decade.



Past Years Awards

2020 NW Awards (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=45095.0)
2019 NW Awards (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=43018.0)
2018 NW Awards (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=40136.0)
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Fwuffy on January 16, 2021, 12:25:15 pm
No
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Glenn on January 16, 2021, 12:28:42 pm
smh recency bias is actually goin to ruin this
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 16, 2021, 01:01:56 pm
smh recency bias is actually goin to ruin this
Recency bias happens in the regular awards so it’s not exactly a surprising concept
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Vegi. on January 16, 2021, 01:04:20 pm
rigged
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: 19boboy97 on January 16, 2021, 01:15:45 pm
Before people nominate silly things consider this:

- Mount and Musket Mod was the predecessor of NW released around 2010 as far I can remember. This era I think will not be considered here, because it's a NW Award?
- Then in 2012 our Napoleonic Wars DLC was released and still has a active player base in 2021.

If you nominate someone, a regiment or GF Team. Make sure they were around for a big amount of this time and/or achieved somethings others couldn't.

As help you can use Gibby and Herisheys All Time List:
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=43949.0





Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: 19boboy97 on January 16, 2021, 01:20:40 pm
Let me start then.
I nominate RGL Final 2020 as biggest Choke and Comeback of the decade:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj6MXmswRu4&t=5460s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYYgxjD6gBg
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Vegi. on January 16, 2021, 01:24:24 pm
92nd lives rent-free in your head. I love to see it. :)
Doesn't take away it's not true what you say, but it only proves my point over and over again.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 16, 2021, 01:31:24 pm
92nd lives rent-free in your head. I love to see it. :)
Doesn't take away it's not true what you say, but it only proves my point over and over again.
You are award winning dumb dumb
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: 19boboy97 on January 16, 2021, 01:42:20 pm
92nd lives rent-free in your head. I love to see it. :)
Doesn't take away it's not true what you say, but it only proves my point over and over again.
You are award winning dumb dumb
True.

Nominating Vegi for most cringe of the decade.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on January 16, 2021, 01:47:26 pm
Reported boboy for double post  8)
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Fartknocker on January 16, 2021, 07:01:04 pm
We all know the 63e is the greatest regiment of all time but the haters are not gonna vote out of spite
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: ibsocal on January 16, 2021, 08:25:47 pm
haters are not gonna vote out of spite
Honestly even I was annoyed by how often people tried to break into circle jerks about 63e when you guys came to our events back in like 15/16 or whenever you brought like 100-120 guys. I always enjoyed having you guys in our events since you never really broke rules or were rowdy and it was fun watching your cavalry/other specs start to improve over time against our IV korps. What a boring and uninspired train of thought that im sure all those players came up with themselves and didnt repeat to fit in with others, also that shit wasnt even relevant to our line battles and it would still come up in there lol. Either way though most people taking part in the forums are gonna speak from the more niche yet vocal competitive side of your history so my word only goes as far as having enjoyed you guys in our events in the public setting of the community for what thats worth.

P.S. - 1LH best competitive and pub cav all time for NA, also im still the reigning King of NA1 since Maple never returned with his army to rechallenge for the throne again.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: fireboy on January 16, 2021, 08:42:31 pm
P.S. - 1LH best competitive and pub cav all time for NA, also im still the reigning King of NA1 since Maple never returned with his army to rechallenge for the throne again.

I was the real king of US_1 the fact that u called it NA_1 means ur a new gen noob  :-*
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Fietta on January 16, 2021, 08:48:28 pm
My first ever regiment in late 2012 was the 63e, I just remember being a tragic Cad unable to get through the melee trials to become SoD, were always nice people (to me at least).
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Ultra Leaf on January 16, 2021, 09:19:56 pm
haters are not gonna vote out of spite
Honestly even I was annoyed by how often people tried to break into circle jerks about 63e when you guys came to our events back in like 15/16 or whenever you brought like 100-120 guys. I always enjoyed having you guys in our events since you never really broke rules or were rowdy and it was fun watching your cavalry/other specs start to improve over time against our IV korps. What a boring and uninspired train of thought that im sure all those players came up with themselves and didnt repeat to fit in with others, also that shit wasnt even relevant to our line battles and it would still come up in there lol. Either way though most people taking part in the forums are gonna speak from the more niche yet vocal competitive side of your history so my word only goes as far as having enjoyed you guys in our events in the public setting of the community for what thats worth.

P.S. - 1LH best competitive and pub cav all time for NA, also im still the reigning King of NA1 since Maple never returned with his army to rechallenge for the throne again.
I agree With IB
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Kristine on January 16, 2021, 10:41:51 pm
Let me start then.
I nominate RGL Final 2020 as biggest Choke and Comeback of the decade:

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj6MXmswRu4&t=5460s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYYgxjD6gBg
[close]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m8KGoKNmKw

40th losing to literal fossils who had sub 10 hours past 2 weeks was a choke and a half.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 17, 2021, 03:50:27 am
P.S. - 1LH best competitive and pub cav all time for NA, also im still the reigning King of NA1 since Maple never returned with his army to rechallenge for the throne again.

I was the real king of US_1 the fact that u called it NA_1 means ur a new gen noob  :-*
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: ibsocal on January 17, 2021, 08:17:39 am
P.S. - 1LH best competitive and pub cav all time for NA, also im still the reigning King of NA1 since Maple never returned with his army to rechallenge for the throne again.

I was the real king of US_1 the fact that u called it NA_1 means ur a new gen noob  :-*
I have no idea how many people are still around that were playing in 2012 but I just assume its not enough for me to use its true name anymore. You can be king of US1 if you want though, ill keep the NA1 kingship since its got lore behind it. Who knows maybe we can even form some sort of union with our kingdoms  ???
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: ShintoSkookum on January 17, 2021, 09:00:15 am
my band of ragtag retards would like a word with you about that na1 title

kops 4 life  8)
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: 19boboy97 on January 17, 2021, 05:00:44 pm
Spoiler
Let me start then.
I nominate RGL Final 2020 as biggest Choke and Comeback of the decade:

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj6MXmswRu4&t=5460s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYYgxjD6gBg
[close]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m8KGoKNmKw

40th losing to literal fossils who had sub 10 hours past 2 weeks was a choke and a half.
[close]

How is this even comparable? Who gives a shit about that NA match?
RGL Final 2020 was the Clash of the 2 best regiments in the game at that time after a lot of trashtalk before and in the event. It was a fairytale comeback in a tournament final which viewers and players will remember till end of their days. Not some silly 1v1 where the players don't know how to block.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: [Stryker] on January 17, 2021, 05:36:21 pm
Both matches in their own right were memorable. 15thYR came back from the brink of defeat (like 14-3 or some shit) and clutched 15-14, while the LG used superior leading and tactics to overcome a stacked regiment where the majority of top NA players were located (Imagine the top 9/10 best EU’s in one regiment and you’ll see where we are coming from)
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: ~NickCole~ on January 17, 2021, 10:24:28 pm
Spoiler
Let me start then.
I nominate RGL Final 2020 as biggest Choke and Comeback of the decade:

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj6MXmswRu4&t=5460s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYYgxjD6gBg
[close]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m8KGoKNmKw

40th losing to literal fossils who had sub 10 hours past 2 weeks was a choke and a half.
[close]

How is this even comparable? Who gives a shit about that NA match?
RGL Final 2020 was the Clash of the 2 best regiments in the game at that time after a lot of trashtalk before and in the event. It was a fairytale comeback in a tournament final which viewers and players will remember till end of their days. Not some silly 1v1 where the players don't know how to block.
Someone who is trash at melee shouldn't be commenting about other players abilities. I do agree however that the 15th comeback match is for sure the biggest choke/comeback and it ain't even close.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 18, 2021, 10:14:19 am
I forgot it was a Holliday sorry guys tomorrow
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: bobertini on January 18, 2021, 01:13:54 pm
#gfing server

14e vs Nr24 in NWL has to be the best match I've seen.

77y vs 91st (5-5)in NWL has to be the best choke from 91st.

All these newfag 92nd kids don't remember the old times.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: |Viper| on January 18, 2021, 01:43:17 pm
The LG will forever be the best regiment of all-time in NA.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Vegi. on January 18, 2021, 02:52:39 pm
All these newfag 92nd kids don't remember the old times.
get good and stfu
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: bobertini on January 18, 2021, 02:53:45 pm
All these newfag 92nd kids don't remember the old times.
get good and stfu

fairly sure there's a gf video of you dying first so pipe down kiddo
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: John Price on January 18, 2021, 02:56:54 pm
#gfing server

14e vs Nr24 in NWL has to be the best match I've seen.

77y vs 91st (5-5)in NWL has to be the best choke from 91st.

All these newfag 92nd kids don't remember the old times.
You beat me to it! That was a legendary choke.

On the topic of Nr24, the loss vs 5pp was an hilarious meme at the time. #PolishBobCarry

EDIT: We are talking about decade awards when you guys are only looking at insignificant matches! If we are speaking about 92nd vs 15th, yes it was a legendary choke for many reasons and definitely deserves to be up there, 15th were always supposed to win really, although making 92nd look that silly I am sure wasn't part of the plan ::)
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Rikkert on January 18, 2021, 05:19:33 pm
#gfing server

14e vs Nr24 in NWL has to be the best match I've seen.

77y vs 91st (5-5)in NWL has to be the best choke from 91st.

All these newfag 92nd kids don't remember the old times.
You beat me to it! That was a legendary choke.

On the topic of Nr24, the loss vs 5pp was an hilarious meme at the time. #PolishBobCarry

EDIT: We are talking about decade awards when you guys are only looking at insignificant matches! If we are speaking about 92nd vs 15th, yes it was a legendary choke for many reasons and definitely deserves to be up there, 15th were always supposed to win really, although making 92nd look that silly I am sure wasn't part of the plan ::)
Yes that RGL season was as clear as "15th were always supposed to win really", very astute observation of a match that ended 15-14. In reality 92nd and 15th were extremely close in skill at the time. Every tournament before that had been extremely close between 15th and 92nd as well, most of the matches between us were the finals which were often decided by a one round difference. That RGL final is quite easily the best match ever played in this game, anyone that was there at the time would agree with you (maybe not 92nd), regardless of if they are newfags or oldfags.

Yes recency bias might be a thing, but so is the extreme nostalgia of some people.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Vegi. on January 18, 2021, 05:27:42 pm
I loved the RGL final
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: ~NickCole~ on January 18, 2021, 08:17:36 pm
The LG will forever be the best regiment of all-time in NA.
No
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 18, 2021, 08:27:17 pm
The LG will forever be the best regiment of all-time in NA.
No
that is because the chefs of swaziland are NARGL champions and therefore the best of all time
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Fartknocker on January 18, 2021, 10:42:47 pm
The LG will forever be the best regiment of all-time in NA.
No
NWL mega stacked LG is the most talented lineup in the history of NW
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: ~NickCole~ on January 18, 2021, 10:49:44 pm
The LG will forever be the best regiment of all-time in NA.
No
NWL mega stacked LG is the most talented lineup in the history of NW
It is top 5 for sure but I think the 12th, 9y & 18th lineups have a case.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Wastee on January 18, 2021, 11:02:23 pm
The LG will forever be the best regiment of all-time in NA.
No
NWL mega stacked LG is the most talented lineup in the history of NW
It is top 5 for sure but I think the 12th, 9y & 18th lineups have a case.
I think 12th, 71st, and 3eVolt have a case. 9y was stacked but never really proved anything. 18th was a discount 12th with some new people but overall much worse, hell they lost to the Nr37.

Overall taking into account skill, achievements, and longevity my top five in order would be LG, 3eVolt, 71st, 12th, 63e.

And yeah NANWL S9 LG wipes the floor with any regiment in a groupfight and still wins any 1v1 but it'd be closer depending on leading styles
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Eamon on January 18, 2021, 11:06:09 pm
Delusion is rife
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: ShintoSkookum on January 18, 2021, 11:17:37 pm
juice kelly for best player of the decade and im not memeing
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Fartknocker on January 19, 2021, 12:05:17 am
The LG will forever be the best regiment of all-time in NA.
No
NWL mega stacked LG is the most talented lineup in the history of NW
It is top 5 for sure but I think the 12th, 9y & 18th lineups have a case.
Top 5 is disrespectful. Nobody touches mega stacked LG
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: BabyJesus on January 19, 2021, 01:04:22 am
12th and 9y didnt last long enough IMO.

JohnGamer is the player of the decade if GTAMan will allow it
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: ~NickCole~ on January 19, 2021, 02:19:47 am
I meant to say I'm referring to a top 5 based on how much melee skilled players are in 1 regiment, not what they have achieved. In terms of leagues/1v1s won I would agree with Wastee list. 
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Theodin on January 19, 2021, 04:13:21 am
Delusion is rife
6te bottom 5 NA comp reg all time
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Zzehth on January 19, 2021, 04:16:34 am
1st - 63e
2nd - 12th
3rd - 71st
4th - 3eVolt/LG
5th - LG/3eVolt

63e was the best regiment NA ever had, but you guys are not ready to have this conversation.
Change my mind.

Best NA Event All-Time - NA NWL
Best pub server - NA1
Best GF server - NA_GF (label)

Biggest clutch and choke of all NA time, some guys might remember or some are just new that never heard of this.
12th vs 63e (1st NA regimental GF tournament, around 2013?). Score was 6-6 and Breaches clutched a 1v5 to make it 7-6 (final score, 12th won)
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Wastee on January 19, 2021, 04:57:01 am
1st - 63e
2nd - 12th
3rd - 71st
4th - 3eVolt/LG
5th - LG/3eVolt

63e was the best regiment NA ever had, but you guys are not ready to have this conversation.
Change my mind.

Best NA Event All-Time - NA NWL
Best pub server - NA1
Best GF server - NA_GF (label)

Biggest clutch and choke of all NA time, some guys might remember or some are just new that never heard of this.
12th vs 63e (1st NA regimental GF tournament, around 2013?). Score was 6-6 and Breaches clutched a 1v5 to make it 7-6 (final score, 12th won)
Let’s get you back into the retirement home it’s right this way, I hear they have free KÁN cbd products there
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 19, 2021, 05:06:46 am
but let's be real here
warowl most influential?
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tcIh6VSIj0
[close]
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Pinoy12 on January 19, 2021, 05:30:10 am
Delusion is rife
How does my dick taste?
Spoiler
(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/785233987051836505/CDDB0F3D4768F208025D6DC755F2D2246C95746D/)
[close]
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Zzehth on January 19, 2021, 05:58:11 am
1st - 63e
2nd - 12th
3rd - 71st
4th - 3eVolt/LG
5th - LG/3eVolt

63e was the best regiment NA ever had, but you guys are not ready to have this conversation.
Change my mind.

Best NA Event All-Time - NA NWL
Best pub server - NA1
Best GF server - NA_GF (label)

Biggest clutch and choke of all NA time, some guys might remember or some are just new that never heard of this.
12th vs 63e (1st NA regimental GF tournament, around 2013?). Score was 6-6 and Breaches clutched a 1v5 to make it 7-6 (final score, 12th won)
Let’s get you back into the retirement home it’s right this way, I hear they have free KÁN cbd products there

Thanks for the publicity.
International delivery for $7.99

My clutch vs saruman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=1121&v=wmJoHwRBnBc&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 19, 2021, 06:17:44 am
Nomination Form (https://forms.gle/9XUsHKtPudjLAhoN6)

I am allowing the nomination up to three(3) people for each category. Any more then that will be ignored. Please put your preferred candidate first as they will count for more if need be.
For Best Video, Post, and Quote it is preferable if you include the creator and the link/screenshot to the submission in your nomination.
For Best Match, please be specific and at least include the competition.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Windflower on January 19, 2021, 06:25:45 am
1st - 63e
2nd - 12th
3rd - 71st
4th - 3eVolt/LG
5th - LG/3eVolt

63e was the best regiment NA ever had, but you guys are not ready to have this conversation.
Change my mind.

Best NA Event All-Time - NA NWL
Best pub server - NA1
Best GF server - NA_GF (label)

Biggest clutch and choke of all NA time, some guys might remember or some are just new that never heard of this.
12th vs 63e (1st NA regimental GF tournament, around 2013?). Score was 6-6 and Breaches clutched a 1v5 to make it 7-6 (final score, 12th won)
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: [Stryker] on January 19, 2021, 06:36:07 am
Who’s Breaches : P
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Wastee on January 19, 2021, 06:53:12 am
Who’s Breaches : P
the second greatest Minnesotan to bless the game
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Fartknocker on January 19, 2021, 07:00:17 am
1st - 63e
2nd - 12th
3rd - 71st
4th - 3eVolt/LG
5th - LG/3eVolt

63e was the best regiment NA ever had, but you guys are not ready to have this conversation.
Change my mind.

Best NA Event All-Time - NA NWL
Best pub server - NA1
Best GF server - NA_GF (label)

Biggest clutch and choke of all NA time, some guys might remember or some are just new that never heard of this.
12th vs 63e (1st NA regimental GF tournament, around 2013?). Score was 6-6 and Breaches clutched a 1v5 to make it 7-6 (final score, 12th won)
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Wastee on January 19, 2021, 07:04:34 am
Best player of decade obviously RussianFury

Tho if it’s pure skill based Yoshie but this is DECADE
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Yoshiee on January 19, 2021, 07:12:03 am
and waste is best player in the army
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: BabyJesus on January 19, 2021, 08:14:45 am
There’s gonna be so much recency bias in these
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 19, 2021, 08:16:15 am
There’s gonna be so much recency bias in these
bro really?
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Eamon on January 19, 2021, 12:33:46 pm
Delusion is rife
How does my dick taste?
Spoiler
(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/785233987051836505/CDDB0F3D4768F208025D6DC755F2D2246C95746D/)
[close]

I'd imagine you would have to ask some LG people instead
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: BabyJesus on January 19, 2021, 04:43:27 pm
There’s gonna be so much recency bias in these
bro really?
really bro
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Windflower on January 19, 2021, 05:08:40 pm
Best player of decade obviously RussianFury

Tho if it’s pure skill based Yoshie but this is DECADE
if it's pure skill based its a tough question, if it's overall skill as a player and leader I'd argue AsianP
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Kore on January 19, 2021, 05:19:14 pm
Why are we doing NW decade awards when NW is just 8 years old
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Vegi. on January 19, 2021, 05:47:47 pm
Why are we doing NW decade awards when NW is just 8 years old
Some of us need another monthly ego boost.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Pinoy12 on January 19, 2021, 06:00:30 pm
Best player of decade obviously RussianFury

Tho if it’s pure skill based Yoshie but this is DECADE
if it's pure skill based its a tough question, if it's overall skill as a player and leader I'd argue AsianP
I'd agree with this statement.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Wastee on January 19, 2021, 06:21:22 pm
Best player of decade obviously RussianFury

Tho if it’s pure skill based Yoshie but this is DECADE
if it's pure skill based its a tough question, if it's overall skill as a player and leader I'd argue AsianP
I'd agree with this statement.
I’d still put Russian above and this isn’t just him being the loml

Russian’s won more tournaments than any other player and has consistently been a top player the last 6 years. I’d even say prime Russian vs prime AsianP Russian is the better gfer Asian the better dueler

This is debatable tho, also I wouldn’t be surprised if some people put Jackie as the best
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: sidney crosby on January 19, 2021, 06:41:54 pm
here come the historians
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: ~NickCole~ on January 19, 2021, 06:45:26 pm
here come the historians
8)
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Cazasar on January 19, 2021, 07:04:43 pm
I would like to nominate this as best Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOr7_2It07I
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Windflower on January 19, 2021, 07:51:22 pm
Best player of decade obviously RussianFury

Tho if it’s pure skill based Yoshie but this is DECADE
if it's pure skill based its a tough question, if it's overall skill as a player and leader I'd argue AsianP
I'd agree with this statement.
I’d still put Russian above and this isn’t just him being the loml

Russian’s won more tournaments than any other player and has consistently been a top player the last 6 years. I’d even say prime Russian vs prime AsianP Russian is the better gfer Asian the better dueler

This is debatable tho, also I wouldn’t be surprised if some people put Jackie as the best
I think you are holding some bias there but you're entitled to your opinion. There's a thread that highlights the players with the most tournament wins of all time.. although it's probably a little outdated at this point. I remember seeing AsianP in the top 3 at least for most tournaments ever won, I think the others were like Tammo and Russian but even so it's close. When it comes to overall player skill though you have to include leading and I don't think it's very debatable if I were to say AsianP is tier(s) above RussianFury in this category not only because of what he's pioneered with leading but also what he's accomplished with his leading skill (not regimental skill) over the last decade, and no offense to what the LG's accomplished but I feel like late 2017 - 2020 is a very unimpressive era in NW in terms of regimental skill which is where we saw the LG dominate.

Spoiler
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: The Rebel on January 19, 2021, 07:57:05 pm
best recruiter thx
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Wastee on January 19, 2021, 08:13:54 pm
Spoiler
Best player of decade obviously RussianFury

Tho if it’s pure skill based Yoshie but this is DECADE
if it's pure skill based its a tough question, if it's overall skill as a player and leader I'd argue AsianP
I'd agree with this statement.
I’d still put Russian above and this isn’t just him being the loml

Russian’s won more tournaments than any other player and has consistently been a top player the last 6 years. I’d even say prime Russian vs prime AsianP Russian is the better gfer Asian the better dueler

This is debatable tho, also I wouldn’t be surprised if some people put Jackie as the best
I think you are holding some bias there but you're entitled to your opinion. There's a thread that highlights the players with the most tournament wins of all time.. although it's probably a little outdated at this point. I remember seeing AsianP in the top 3 at least for most tournaments ever won, I think the others were like Tammo and Russian but even so it's close. When it comes to overall player skill though you have to include leading and I don't think it's very debatable if I were to say AsianP is tier(s) above RussianFury in this category not only because of what he's pioneered with leading but also what he's accomplished with his leading skill (not regimental skill) over the last decade, and no offense to what the LG's accomplished but I feel like late 2017 - 2020 is a very unimpressive era in NW in terms of regimental skill which is where we saw the LG dominate.

Spoiler
[close]
Yeah I operate the sheet of all tournament wins, AsianP has 4 less wins but only 7 first places whereas Russian has 15.

My opinion of the category is skill, not leadership (tho I still put Russian ahead on leadership)
Also bruh the last 4 years have been peak skill NW, there’s more competition at the highest level than ever before. I like you man but your only view into comp NW the last few years has been your occasional league you host where you primarily do administration work. You can have your opinions but they’re hardly well informed. Old gen “golden days” bias strikes again

LG, 40th, 6te, Godfreid Regs, I forget Jerrys reg name but that one, wipe the floor with old regs that were hailed as GOAT for beating on pub regs in 1v1s once a week.

Game competition didn’t deteriorate over time, it evolved. Now regiments are finally irrelevant

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GhNLuzYxqw4z9t3r5Q8UbLNHOW_2O6qRkKR_XYgnhbQ/

On my phone over lunch sorry if this is incoherent as fuck
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: The Rebel on January 19, 2021, 08:17:02 pm
Obviously I've been in and out for the last few years, but imo I still think JackieChan or AsianP are my two favorites for best.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Windflower on January 19, 2021, 08:21:44 pm
Spoiler
Best player of decade obviously RussianFury

Tho if it’s pure skill based Yoshie but this is DECADE
if it's pure skill based its a tough question, if it's overall skill as a player and leader I'd argue AsianP
I'd agree with this statement.
I’d still put Russian above and this isn’t just him being the loml

Russian’s won more tournaments than any other player and has consistently been a top player the last 6 years. I’d even say prime Russian vs prime AsianP Russian is the better gfer Asian the better dueler

This is debatable tho, also I wouldn’t be surprised if some people put Jackie as the best
I think you are holding some bias there but you're entitled to your opinion. There's a thread that highlights the players with the most tournament wins of all time.. although it's probably a little outdated at this point. I remember seeing AsianP in the top 3 at least for most tournaments ever won, I think the others were like Tammo and Russian but even so it's close. When it comes to overall player skill though you have to include leading and I don't think it's very debatable if I were to say AsianP is tier(s) above RussianFury in this category not only because of what he's pioneered with leading but also what he's accomplished with his leading skill (not regimental skill) over the last decade, and no offense to what the LG's accomplished but I feel like late 2017 - 2020 is a very unimpressive era in NW in terms of regimental skill which is where we saw the LG dominate.

Spoiler
[close]
Yeah I operate the sheet of all tournament wins, AsianP has 4 less wins but only 7 first places whereas Russian has 15.

My opinion of the category is skill, not leadership (tho I still put Russian ahead on leadership)
Also bruh the last 4 years have been peak skill NW, there’s more competition at the highest level than ever before. I like you man but your only view into comp NW the last few years has been your occasional league you host where you primarily do administration work. You can have your opinions but they’re hardly well informed. Old gen “golden days” bias strikes again

LG, 40th, 6te, Godfreid Regs, I forget Jerrys reg name but that one, wipe the floor with old regs that were hailed as GOAT for beating on pub regs in 1v1s once a week.

Game competition didn’t deteriorate over time, it evolved. Now regiments are finally irrelevant

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GhNLuzYxqw4z9t3r5Q8UbLNHOW_2O6qRkKR_XYgnhbQ/

On my phone over lunch sorry if this is incoherent as fuck
I'm sorry but you cannot argue that a prime LG wouldn't get washed by a prime 12th. (imo)
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Wastee on January 19, 2021, 08:23:40 pm
Spoiler
Best player of decade obviously RussianFury

Tho if it’s pure skill based Yoshie but this is DECADE
if it's pure skill based its a tough question, if it's overall skill as a player and leader I'd argue AsianP
I'd agree with this statement.
I’d still put Russian above and this isn’t just him being the loml

Russian’s won more tournaments than any other player and has consistently been a top player the last 6 years. I’d even say prime Russian vs prime AsianP Russian is the better gfer Asian the better dueler

This is debatable tho, also I wouldn’t be surprised if some people put Jackie as the best
I think you are holding some bias there but you're entitled to your opinion. There's a thread that highlights the players with the most tournament wins of all time.. although it's probably a little outdated at this point. I remember seeing AsianP in the top 3 at least for most tournaments ever won, I think the others were like Tammo and Russian but even so it's close. When it comes to overall player skill though you have to include leading and I don't think it's very debatable if I were to say AsianP is tier(s) above RussianFury in this category not only because of what he's pioneered with leading but also what he's accomplished with his leading skill (not regimental skill) over the last decade, and no offense to what the LG's accomplished but I feel like late 2017 - 2020 is a very unimpressive era in NW in terms of regimental skill which is where we saw the LG dominate.

Spoiler
[close]
Yeah I operate the sheet of all tournament wins, AsianP has 4 less wins but only 7 first places whereas Russian has 15.

My opinion of the category is skill, not leadership (tho I still put Russian ahead on leadership)
Also bruh the last 4 years have been peak skill NW, there’s more competition at the highest level than ever before. I like you man but your only view into comp NW the last few years has been your occasional league you host where you primarily do administration work. You can have your opinions but they’re hardly well informed. Old gen “golden days” bias strikes again

LG, 40th, 6te, Godfreid Regs, I forget Jerrys reg name but that one, wipe the floor with old regs that were hailed as GOAT for beating on pub regs in 1v1s once a week.

Game competition didn’t deteriorate over time, it evolved. Now regiments are finally irrelevant

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GhNLuzYxqw4z9t3r5Q8UbLNHOW_2O6qRkKR_XYgnhbQ/

On my phone over lunch sorry if this is incoherent as fuck
I'm sorry but you cannot argue that a prime LG wouldn't get washed by a prime 12th.
Do you even know who all makes up prime LG? Look at 70% of your last league’s participants.

Washes, easily. And I’m a 12th boy they made me who I am.

Piktonss rn would be a top 15 player in 2013
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Windflower on January 19, 2021, 08:25:04 pm
Spoiler
Best player of decade obviously RussianFury

Tho if it’s pure skill based Yoshie but this is DECADE
if it's pure skill based its a tough question, if it's overall skill as a player and leader I'd argue AsianP
I'd agree with this statement.
I’d still put Russian above and this isn’t just him being the loml

Russian’s won more tournaments than any other player and has consistently been a top player the last 6 years. I’d even say prime Russian vs prime AsianP Russian is the better gfer Asian the better dueler

This is debatable tho, also I wouldn’t be surprised if some people put Jackie as the best
I think you are holding some bias there but you're entitled to your opinion. There's a thread that highlights the players with the most tournament wins of all time.. although it's probably a little outdated at this point. I remember seeing AsianP in the top 3 at least for most tournaments ever won, I think the others were like Tammo and Russian but even so it's close. When it comes to overall player skill though you have to include leading and I don't think it's very debatable if I were to say AsianP is tier(s) above RussianFury in this category not only because of what he's pioneered with leading but also what he's accomplished with his leading skill (not regimental skill) over the last decade, and no offense to what the LG's accomplished but I feel like late 2017 - 2020 is a very unimpressive era in NW in terms of regimental skill which is where we saw the LG dominate.

Spoiler
[close]
Yeah I operate the sheet of all tournament wins, AsianP has 4 less wins but only 7 first places whereas Russian has 15.

My opinion of the category is skill, not leadership (tho I still put Russian ahead on leadership)
Also bruh the last 4 years have been peak skill NW, there’s more competition at the highest level than ever before. I like you man but your only view into comp NW the last few years has been your occasional league you host where you primarily do administration work. You can have your opinions but they’re hardly well informed. Old gen “golden days” bias strikes again

LG, 40th, 6te, Godfreid Regs, I forget Jerrys reg name but that one, wipe the floor with old regs that were hailed as GOAT for beating on pub regs in 1v1s once a week.

Game competition didn’t deteriorate over time, it evolved. Now regiments are finally irrelevant

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GhNLuzYxqw4z9t3r5Q8UbLNHOW_2O6qRkKR_XYgnhbQ/

On my phone over lunch sorry if this is incoherent as fuck
I'm sorry but you cannot argue that a prime LG wouldn't get washed by a prime 12th.
Do you even know who all makes up prime LG? Look at 70% of your last league’s participants.

Washes, easily.

Piktonss rn would be a top 15 player in 2013
Like 90% of our remaining community were in the LG at some point, what's your point?
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Wastee on January 19, 2021, 08:26:00 pm
Spoiler
Best player of decade obviously RussianFury

Tho if it’s pure skill based Yoshie but this is DECADE
if it's pure skill based its a tough question, if it's overall skill as a player and leader I'd argue AsianP
I'd agree with this statement.
I’d still put Russian above and this isn’t just him being the loml

Russian’s won more tournaments than any other player and has consistently been a top player the last 6 years. I’d even say prime Russian vs prime AsianP Russian is the better gfer Asian the better dueler

This is debatable tho, also I wouldn’t be surprised if some people put Jackie as the best
I think you are holding some bias there but you're entitled to your opinion. There's a thread that highlights the players with the most tournament wins of all time.. although it's probably a little outdated at this point. I remember seeing AsianP in the top 3 at least for most tournaments ever won, I think the others were like Tammo and Russian but even so it's close. When it comes to overall player skill though you have to include leading and I don't think it's very debatable if I were to say AsianP is tier(s) above RussianFury in this category not only because of what he's pioneered with leading but also what he's accomplished with his leading skill (not regimental skill) over the last decade, and no offense to what the LG's accomplished but I feel like late 2017 - 2020 is a very unimpressive era in NW in terms of regimental skill which is where we saw the LG dominate.

Spoiler
[close]
Yeah I operate the sheet of all tournament wins, AsianP has 4 less wins but only 7 first places whereas Russian has 15.

My opinion of the category is skill, not leadership (tho I still put Russian ahead on leadership)
Also bruh the last 4 years have been peak skill NW, there’s more competition at the highest level than ever before. I like you man but your only view into comp NW the last few years has been your occasional league you host where you primarily do administration work. You can have your opinions but they’re hardly well informed. Old gen “golden days” bias strikes again

LG, 40th, 6te, Godfreid Regs, I forget Jerrys reg name but that one, wipe the floor with old regs that were hailed as GOAT for beating on pub regs in 1v1s once a week.

Game competition didn’t deteriorate over time, it evolved. Now regiments are finally irrelevant

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GhNLuzYxqw4z9t3r5Q8UbLNHOW_2O6qRkKR_XYgnhbQ/

On my phone over lunch sorry if this is incoherent as fuck
I'm sorry but you cannot argue that a prime LG wouldn't get washed by a prime 12th.
Do you even know who all makes up prime LG? Look at 70% of your last league’s participants.

Washes, easily.

Piktonss rn would be a top 15 player in 2013
Like 90% of our remaining community were in the LG at some point, what's your point?
my point is that melee has evolved exponentially since the 12th existed


Lemme get this straight
For example you think

Tico, Breaches, Zorkoth, Who, Ghost, Coconut, Jackie, Zzheth washes

Russian, Yoshie, Me, Godfreid, Cwater, Jaax, Yoloswag, Rune
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Windflower on January 19, 2021, 08:29:25 pm
Spoiler
Spoiler
Best player of decade obviously RussianFury

Tho if it’s pure skill based Yoshie but this is DECADE
if it's pure skill based its a tough question, if it's overall skill as a player and leader I'd argue AsianP
I'd agree with this statement.
I’d still put Russian above and this isn’t just him being the loml

Russian’s won more tournaments than any other player and has consistently been a top player the last 6 years. I’d even say prime Russian vs prime AsianP Russian is the better gfer Asian the better dueler

This is debatable tho, also I wouldn’t be surprised if some people put Jackie as the best
I think you are holding some bias there but you're entitled to your opinion. There's a thread that highlights the players with the most tournament wins of all time.. although it's probably a little outdated at this point. I remember seeing AsianP in the top 3 at least for most tournaments ever won, I think the others were like Tammo and Russian but even so it's close. When it comes to overall player skill though you have to include leading and I don't think it's very debatable if I were to say AsianP is tier(s) above RussianFury in this category not only because of what he's pioneered with leading but also what he's accomplished with his leading skill (not regimental skill) over the last decade, and no offense to what the LG's accomplished but I feel like late 2017 - 2020 is a very unimpressive era in NW in terms of regimental skill which is where we saw the LG dominate.

Spoiler
[close]
Yeah I operate the sheet of all tournament wins, AsianP has 4 less wins but only 7 first places whereas Russian has 15.

My opinion of the category is skill, not leadership (tho I still put Russian ahead on leadership)
Also bruh the last 4 years have been peak skill NW, there’s more competition at the highest level than ever before. I like you man but your only view into comp NW the last few years has been your occasional league you host where you primarily do administration work. You can have your opinions but they’re hardly well informed. Old gen “golden days” bias strikes again

LG, 40th, 6te, Godfreid Regs, I forget Jerrys reg name but that one, wipe the floor with old regs that were hailed as GOAT for beating on pub regs in 1v1s once a week.

Game competition didn’t deteriorate over time, it evolved. Now regiments are finally irrelevant

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GhNLuzYxqw4z9t3r5Q8UbLNHOW_2O6qRkKR_XYgnhbQ/

On my phone over lunch sorry if this is incoherent as fuck
I'm sorry but you cannot argue that a prime LG wouldn't get washed by a prime 12th.
Do you even know who all makes up prime LG? Look at 70% of your last league’s participants.

Washes, easily.

Piktonss rn would be a top 15 player in 2013
Like 90% of our remaining community were in the LG at some point, what's your point?
[close]
my point is that melee has evolved exponentially since the 12th existed
and leading has exponentially degraded since the 12th existed
weird balance
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: John Price on January 19, 2021, 08:32:47 pm
Spoiler
Spoiler
Best player of decade obviously RussianFury

Tho if it’s pure skill based Yoshie but this is DECADE
if it's pure skill based its a tough question, if it's overall skill as a player and leader I'd argue AsianP
I'd agree with this statement.
I’d still put Russian above and this isn’t just him being the loml

Russian’s won more tournaments than any other player and has consistently been a top player the last 6 years. I’d even say prime Russian vs prime AsianP Russian is the better gfer Asian the better dueler

This is debatable tho, also I wouldn’t be surprised if some people put Jackie as the best
I think you are holding some bias there but you're entitled to your opinion. There's a thread that highlights the players with the most tournament wins of all time.. although it's probably a little outdated at this point. I remember seeing AsianP in the top 3 at least for most tournaments ever won, I think the others were like Tammo and Russian but even so it's close. When it comes to overall player skill though you have to include leading and I don't think it's very debatable if I were to say AsianP is tier(s) above RussianFury in this category not only because of what he's pioneered with leading but also what he's accomplished with his leading skill (not regimental skill) over the last decade, and no offense to what the LG's accomplished but I feel like late 2017 - 2020 is a very unimpressive era in NW in terms of regimental skill which is where we saw the LG dominate.

Spoiler
[close]
Yeah I operate the sheet of all tournament wins, AsianP has 4 less wins but only 7 first places whereas Russian has 15.

My opinion of the category is skill, not leadership (tho I still put Russian ahead on leadership)
Also bruh the last 4 years have been peak skill NW, there’s more competition at the highest level than ever before. I like you man but your only view into comp NW the last few years has been your occasional league you host where you primarily do administration work. You can have your opinions but they’re hardly well informed. Old gen “golden days” bias strikes again

LG, 40th, 6te, Godfreid Regs, I forget Jerrys reg name but that one, wipe the floor with old regs that were hailed as GOAT for beating on pub regs in 1v1s once a week.

Game competition didn’t deteriorate over time, it evolved. Now regiments are finally irrelevant

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GhNLuzYxqw4z9t3r5Q8UbLNHOW_2O6qRkKR_XYgnhbQ/

On my phone over lunch sorry if this is incoherent as fuck
I'm sorry but you cannot argue that a prime LG wouldn't get washed by a prime 12th.
Do you even know who all makes up prime LG? Look at 70% of your last league’s participants.

Washes, easily.

Piktonss rn would be a top 15 player in 2013
Like 90% of our remaining community were in the LG at some point, what's your point?
[close]
my point is that melee has evolved exponentially since the 12th existed
and leading has exponentially degraded since the 12th existed
weird balance
I tale as old as...well NW kek
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Wastee on January 19, 2021, 08:34:09 pm
Spoiler
Spoiler
Best player of decade obviously RussianFury

Tho if it’s pure skill based Yoshie but this is DECADE
if it's pure skill based its a tough question, if it's overall skill as a player and leader I'd argue AsianP
I'd agree with this statement.
I’d still put Russian above and this isn’t just him being the loml

Russian’s won more tournaments than any other player and has consistently been a top player the last 6 years. I’d even say prime Russian vs prime AsianP Russian is the better gfer Asian the better dueler

This is debatable tho, also I wouldn’t be surprised if some people put Jackie as the best
I think you are holding some bias there but you're entitled to your opinion. There's a thread that highlights the players with the most tournament wins of all time.. although it's probably a little outdated at this point. I remember seeing AsianP in the top 3 at least for most tournaments ever won, I think the others were like Tammo and Russian but even so it's close. When it comes to overall player skill though you have to include leading and I don't think it's very debatable if I were to say AsianP is tier(s) above RussianFury in this category not only because of what he's pioneered with leading but also what he's accomplished with his leading skill (not regimental skill) over the last decade, and no offense to what the LG's accomplished but I feel like late 2017 - 2020 is a very unimpressive era in NW in terms of regimental skill which is where we saw the LG dominate.

Spoiler
[close]
Yeah I operate the sheet of all tournament wins, AsianP has 4 less wins but only 7 first places whereas Russian has 15.

My opinion of the category is skill, not leadership (tho I still put Russian ahead on leadership)
Also bruh the last 4 years have been peak skill NW, there’s more competition at the highest level than ever before. I like you man but your only view into comp NW the last few years has been your occasional league you host where you primarily do administration work. You can have your opinions but they’re hardly well informed. Old gen “golden days” bias strikes again

LG, 40th, 6te, Godfreid Regs, I forget Jerrys reg name but that one, wipe the floor with old regs that were hailed as GOAT for beating on pub regs in 1v1s once a week.

Game competition didn’t deteriorate over time, it evolved. Now regiments are finally irrelevant

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GhNLuzYxqw4z9t3r5Q8UbLNHOW_2O6qRkKR_XYgnhbQ/

On my phone over lunch sorry if this is incoherent as fuck
I'm sorry but you cannot argue that a prime LG wouldn't get washed by a prime 12th.
Do you even know who all makes up prime LG? Look at 70% of your last league’s participants.

Washes, easily.

Piktonss rn would be a top 15 player in 2013
Like 90% of our remaining community were in the LG at some point, what's your point?
[close]
my point is that melee has evolved exponentially since the 12th existed
and leading has exponentially degraded since the 12th existed
weird balance
this is so much cap I am in pain

I will get video evidence for you later don’t worry
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Windflower on January 19, 2021, 08:36:34 pm
Spoiler
Spoiler
Best player of decade obviously RussianFury

Tho if it’s pure skill based Yoshie but this is DECADE
if it's pure skill based its a tough question, if it's overall skill as a player and leader I'd argue AsianP
I'd agree with this statement.
I’d still put Russian above and this isn’t just him being the loml

Russian’s won more tournaments than any other player and has consistently been a top player the last 6 years. I’d even say prime Russian vs prime AsianP Russian is the better gfer Asian the better dueler

This is debatable tho, also I wouldn’t be surprised if some people put Jackie as the best
I think you are holding some bias there but you're entitled to your opinion. There's a thread that highlights the players with the most tournament wins of all time.. although it's probably a little outdated at this point. I remember seeing AsianP in the top 3 at least for most tournaments ever won, I think the others were like Tammo and Russian but even so it's close. When it comes to overall player skill though you have to include leading and I don't think it's very debatable if I were to say AsianP is tier(s) above RussianFury in this category not only because of what he's pioneered with leading but also what he's accomplished with his leading skill (not regimental skill) over the last decade, and no offense to what the LG's accomplished but I feel like late 2017 - 2020 is a very unimpressive era in NW in terms of regimental skill which is where we saw the LG dominate.

Spoiler
[close]
Yeah I operate the sheet of all tournament wins, AsianP has 4 less wins but only 7 first places whereas Russian has 15.

My opinion of the category is skill, not leadership (tho I still put Russian ahead on leadership)
Also bruh the last 4 years have been peak skill NW, there’s more competition at the highest level than ever before. I like you man but your only view into comp NW the last few years has been your occasional league you host where you primarily do administration work. You can have your opinions but they’re hardly well informed. Old gen “golden days” bias strikes again

LG, 40th, 6te, Godfreid Regs, I forget Jerrys reg name but that one, wipe the floor with old regs that were hailed as GOAT for beating on pub regs in 1v1s once a week.

Game competition didn’t deteriorate over time, it evolved. Now regiments are finally irrelevant

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GhNLuzYxqw4z9t3r5Q8UbLNHOW_2O6qRkKR_XYgnhbQ/

On my phone over lunch sorry if this is incoherent as fuck
I'm sorry but you cannot argue that a prime LG wouldn't get washed by a prime 12th.
Do you even know who all makes up prime LG? Look at 70% of your last league’s participants.

Washes, easily.

Piktonss rn would be a top 15 player in 2013
Like 90% of our remaining community were in the LG at some point, what's your point?
[close]
my point is that melee has evolved exponentially since the 12th existed
and leading has exponentially degraded since the 12th existed
weird balance
this is so much cap I am in pain

I will get video evidence for you later don’t worry
here's ur video evidence

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IqhUPrsFBI
[close]
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 19, 2021, 08:40:09 pm
no cap malikith and diplexheated had more influence than karth
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: RussianFury on January 19, 2021, 08:43:49 pm
Ah yes, our inferior leading compared to the 30th. It's not like most of those rounds we missed close shots like this:

Spoiler
(https://i.gyazo.com/6b8f7fe0f9fc42ed0c9f4620283c1983.jpg)
[close]

Also third month as a regiment and me as a leader. That's like comparing Aaron Rodgers first year as a QB and judging his career because of that. It seems as though someone is still butthurt they lost with their own mega stack regiment.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Wastee on January 19, 2021, 08:48:07 pm
Spoiler
Spoiler
Best player of decade obviously RussianFury

Tho if it’s pure skill based Yoshie but this is DECADE
if it's pure skill based its a tough question, if it's overall skill as a player and leader I'd argue AsianP
I'd agree with this statement.
I’d still put Russian above and this isn’t just him being the loml

Russian’s won more tournaments than any other player and has consistently been a top player the last 6 years. I’d even say prime Russian vs prime AsianP Russian is the better gfer Asian the better dueler

This is debatable tho, also I wouldn’t be surprised if some people put Jackie as the best
I think you are holding some bias there but you're entitled to your opinion. There's a thread that highlights the players with the most tournament wins of all time.. although it's probably a little outdated at this point. I remember seeing AsianP in the top 3 at least for most tournaments ever won, I think the others were like Tammo and Russian but even so it's close. When it comes to overall player skill though you have to include leading and I don't think it's very debatable if I were to say AsianP is tier(s) above RussianFury in this category not only because of what he's pioneered with leading but also what he's accomplished with his leading skill (not regimental skill) over the last decade, and no offense to what the LG's accomplished but I feel like late 2017 - 2020 is a very unimpressive era in NW in terms of regimental skill which is where we saw the LG dominate.

Spoiler
[close]
Yeah I operate the sheet of all tournament wins, AsianP has 4 less wins but only 7 first places whereas Russian has 15.

My opinion of the category is skill, not leadership (tho I still put Russian ahead on leadership)
Also bruh the last 4 years have been peak skill NW, there’s more competition at the highest level than ever before. I like you man but your only view into comp NW the last few years has been your occasional league you host where you primarily do administration work. You can have your opinions but they’re hardly well informed. Old gen “golden days” bias strikes again

LG, 40th, 6te, Godfreid Regs, I forget Jerrys reg name but that one, wipe the floor with old regs that were hailed as GOAT for beating on pub regs in 1v1s once a week.

Game competition didn’t deteriorate over time, it evolved. Now regiments are finally irrelevant

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GhNLuzYxqw4z9t3r5Q8UbLNHOW_2O6qRkKR_XYgnhbQ/

On my phone over lunch sorry if this is incoherent as fuck
I'm sorry but you cannot argue that a prime LG wouldn't get washed by a prime 12th.
Do you even know who all makes up prime LG? Look at 70% of your last league’s participants.

Washes, easily.

Piktonss rn would be a top 15 player in 2013
Like 90% of our remaining community were in the LG at some point, what's your point?
[close]
my point is that melee has evolved exponentially since the 12th existed
and leading has exponentially degraded since the 12th existed
weird balance
this is so much cap I am in pain

I will get video evidence for you later don’t worry
here's ur video evidence

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IqhUPrsFBI
[close]
Ah yes a three year old video of one of the three times the 30th played the LG

4 months into Russian and I’s leading together extravaganza. Forget the other 3-4 years where we adapted new strategies and actually learned to play off each others leading styles and how to counter regiments that run

But wait if we tied Purple Panda but beat AsianP & Karth...PurplePanda better than AsianP and Karth???

I cannot tell if you’re trolling me because you know this stuff tilts me or you’re actually serious
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Windflower on January 19, 2021, 08:50:17 pm
Ah yes, our inferior leading compared to the 30th. It's not like most of those rounds we missed close shots like this.

Spoiler
(https://i.gyazo.com/6b8f7fe0f9fc42ed0c9f4620283c1983.jpg)
[close]

Also third month as a regiment and me as a leader. That's like comparing Aaron Rodgers first year as a QB and judging his career because of that.
I don't mean to put the 30th over the LG you guys are clearly the better regiment I meant to highlight how our regiment is kinda shit and how both of our leading here is very scuffed.. and if we're lookin' at the LGs history as a whole we gotta include the rough months pre-45e..

Spoiler
Spoiler
Spoiler
Best player of decade obviously RussianFury

Tho if it’s pure skill based Yoshie but this is DECADE
if it's pure skill based its a tough question, if it's overall skill as a player and leader I'd argue AsianP
I'd agree with this statement.
I’d still put Russian above and this isn’t just him being the loml

Russian’s won more tournaments than any other player and has consistently been a top player the last 6 years. I’d even say prime Russian vs prime AsianP Russian is the better gfer Asian the better dueler

This is debatable tho, also I wouldn’t be surprised if some people put Jackie as the best
I think you are holding some bias there but you're entitled to your opinion. There's a thread that highlights the players with the most tournament wins of all time.. although it's probably a little outdated at this point. I remember seeing AsianP in the top 3 at least for most tournaments ever won, I think the others were like Tammo and Russian but even so it's close. When it comes to overall player skill though you have to include leading and I don't think it's very debatable if I were to say AsianP is tier(s) above RussianFury in this category not only because of what he's pioneered with leading but also what he's accomplished with his leading skill (not regimental skill) over the last decade, and no offense to what the LG's accomplished but I feel like late 2017 - 2020 is a very unimpressive era in NW in terms of regimental skill which is where we saw the LG dominate.

Spoiler
[close]
Yeah I operate the sheet of all tournament wins, AsianP has 4 less wins but only 7 first places whereas Russian has 15.

My opinion of the category is skill, not leadership (tho I still put Russian ahead on leadership)
Also bruh the last 4 years have been peak skill NW, there’s more competition at the highest level than ever before. I like you man but your only view into comp NW the last few years has been your occasional league you host where you primarily do administration work. You can have your opinions but they’re hardly well informed. Old gen “golden days” bias strikes again

LG, 40th, 6te, Godfreid Regs, I forget Jerrys reg name but that one, wipe the floor with old regs that were hailed as GOAT for beating on pub regs in 1v1s once a week.

Game competition didn’t deteriorate over time, it evolved. Now regiments are finally irrelevant

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GhNLuzYxqw4z9t3r5Q8UbLNHOW_2O6qRkKR_XYgnhbQ/

On my phone over lunch sorry if this is incoherent as fuck
I'm sorry but you cannot argue that a prime LG wouldn't get washed by a prime 12th.
Do you even know who all makes up prime LG? Look at 70% of your last league’s participants.

Washes, easily.

Piktonss rn would be a top 15 player in 2013
Like 90% of our remaining community were in the LG at some point, what's your point?
[close]
my point is that melee has evolved exponentially since the 12th existed
and leading has exponentially degraded since the 12th existed
weird balance
this is so much cap I am in pain

I will get video evidence for you later don’t worry
here's ur video evidence

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IqhUPrsFBI
[close]
[close]
Ah yes a three year old video of one of the three times the 30th played the LG

4 months into Russian and I’s leading together extravaganza. Forget the other 3-4 years where we adapted new strategies and actually learned to play off each others leading styles and how to counter regiments that run

But wait if we tied Purple Panda but beat AsianP & Karth...PurplePanda better than AsianP and Karth???

I cannot tell if you’re trolling me because you know this stuff tilts me or you’re actually serious
It's mostly a joke because I know it tilts you..  :P
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: RussianFury on January 19, 2021, 08:53:47 pm
Spoiler
Ah yes, our inferior leading compared to the 30th. It's not like most of those rounds we missed close shots like this.

Spoiler
(https://i.gyazo.com/6b8f7fe0f9fc42ed0c9f4620283c1983.jpg)
[close]

Also third month as a regiment and me as a leader. That's like comparing Aaron Rodgers first year as a QB and judging his career because of that.
I don't mean to put the 30th over the LG you guys are clearly the better regiment I meant to highlight how our regiment is kinda shit and how both of our leading here is very scuffed.. and if we're lookin' at the LGs history as a whole we gotta include the rough months pre-45e..

Spoiler
Spoiler
Spoiler
Best player of decade obviously RussianFury

Tho if it%u2019s pure skill based Yoshie but this is DECADE
if it's pure skill based its a tough question, if it's overall skill as a player and leader I'd argue AsianP
I'd agree with this statement.
I%u2019d still put Russian above and this isn%u2019t just him being the loml

Russian%u2019s won more tournaments than any other player and has consistently been a top player the last 6 years. I%u2019d even say prime Russian vs prime AsianP Russian is the better gfer Asian the better dueler

This is debatable tho, also I wouldn%u2019t be surprised if some people put Jackie as the best
I think you are holding some bias there but you're entitled to your opinion. There's a thread that highlights the players with the most tournament wins of all time.. although it's probably a little outdated at this point. I remember seeing AsianP in the top 3 at least for most tournaments ever won, I think the others were like Tammo and Russian but even so it's close. When it comes to overall player skill though you have to include leading and I don't think it's very debatable if I were to say AsianP is tier(s) above RussianFury in this category not only because of what he's pioneered with leading but also what he's accomplished with his leading skill (not regimental skill) over the last decade, and no offense to what the LG's accomplished but I feel like late 2017 - 2020 is a very unimpressive era in NW in terms of regimental skill which is where we saw the LG dominate.

Spoiler
[close]
Yeah I operate the sheet of all tournament wins, AsianP has 4 less wins but only 7 first places whereas Russian has 15.

My opinion of the category is skill, not leadership (tho I still put Russian ahead on leadership)
Also bruh the last 4 years have been peak skill NW, there%u2019s more competition at the highest level than ever before. I like you man but your only view into comp NW the last few years has been your occasional league you host where you primarily do administration work. You can have your opinions but they%u2019re hardly well informed. Old gen %u201Cgolden days%u201D bias strikes again

LG, 40th, 6te, Godfreid Regs, I forget Jerrys reg name but that one, wipe the floor with old regs that were hailed as GOAT for beating on pub regs in 1v1s once a week.

Game competition didn%u2019t deteriorate over time, it evolved. Now regiments are finally irrelevant

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GhNLuzYxqw4z9t3r5Q8UbLNHOW_2O6qRkKR_XYgnhbQ/

On my phone over lunch sorry if this is incoherent as fuck
I'm sorry but you cannot argue that a prime LG wouldn't get washed by a prime 12th.
Do you even know who all makes up prime LG? Look at 70% of your last league%u2019s participants.

Washes, easily.

Piktonss rn would be a top 15 player in 2013
Like 90% of our remaining community were in the LG at some point, what's your point?
[close]
my point is that melee has evolved exponentially since the 12th existed
and leading has exponentially degraded since the 12th existed
weird balance
this is so much cap I am in pain

I will get video evidence for you later don%u2019t worry
here's ur video evidence

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IqhUPrsFBI
[close]
[close]
Ah yes a three year old video of one of the three times the 30th played the LG

4 months into Russian and I%u2019s leading together extravaganza. Forget the other 3-4 years where we adapted new strategies and actually learned to play off each others leading styles and how to counter regiments that run

But wait if we tied Purple Panda but beat AsianP & Karth...PurplePanda better than AsianP and Karth???

I cannot tell if you%u2019re trolling me because you know this stuff tilts me or you%u2019re actually serious
It's mostly a joke because I know it tilts you..  :P
[close]
That's like comparing Aaron Rodgers first year as a QB and judging his career because of that. Furthermore, our regiment was still talented before the 45e merged into us. We lost a portion of our guys after NWL S7 due to the 3e reforming, but eventually began to win.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: ShintoSkookum on January 19, 2021, 09:05:34 pm
Completely unironically juice kelly is the best player of all time. If we’re talking in terms of melee skill, then no. But his skill as a sapper is completely unmatched. For melee there are actually arguments for who is the best meleer as seen in this thread. Juice DOMINATED the scene for his whole career and nobody has come close to getting as many kills as a sapper as he did. That man would clutch 1v7s on the daily with his explosive prowess. It’s to the point where I legitimately think he created the game files or memorized the exact explosion radius of his devices. I know most of you noobs (like Yoshie) weren’t around for him but his dominance at his position is unmatched. Juice Kelly gets my vote as the best player of the decade.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Windflower on January 19, 2021, 09:08:44 pm
Spoiler
Ah yes, our inferior leading compared to the 30th. It's not like most of those rounds we missed close shots like this.

Spoiler
(https://i.gyazo.com/6b8f7fe0f9fc42ed0c9f4620283c1983.jpg)
[close]

Also third month as a regiment and me as a leader. That's like comparing Aaron Rodgers first year as a QB and judging his career because of that.
I don't mean to put the 30th over the LG you guys are clearly the better regiment I meant to highlight how our regiment is kinda shit and how both of our leading here is very scuffed.. and if we're lookin' at the LGs history as a whole we gotta include the rough months pre-45e..

Spoiler
Spoiler
Spoiler
Best player of decade obviously RussianFury

Tho if it’s pure skill based Yoshie but this is DECADE
if it's pure skill based its a tough question, if it's overall skill as a player and leader I'd argue AsianP
I'd agree with this statement.
I’d still put Russian above and this isn’t just him being the loml

Russian’s won more tournaments than any other player and has consistently been a top player the last 6 years. I’d even say prime Russian vs prime AsianP Russian is the better gfer Asian the better dueler

This is debatable tho, also I wouldn’t be surprised if some people put Jackie as the best
I think you are holding some bias there but you're entitled to your opinion. There's a thread that highlights the players with the most tournament wins of all time.. although it's probably a little outdated at this point. I remember seeing AsianP in the top 3 at least for most tournaments ever won, I think the others were like Tammo and Russian but even so it's close. When it comes to overall player skill though you have to include leading and I don't think it's very debatable if I were to say AsianP is tier(s) above RussianFury in this category not only because of what he's pioneered with leading but also what he's accomplished with his leading skill (not regimental skill) over the last decade, and no offense to what the LG's accomplished but I feel like late 2017 - 2020 is a very unimpressive era in NW in terms of regimental skill which is where we saw the LG dominate.

Spoiler
[close]
Yeah I operate the sheet of all tournament wins, AsianP has 4 less wins but only 7 first places whereas Russian has 15.

My opinion of the category is skill, not leadership (tho I still put Russian ahead on leadership)
Also bruh the last 4 years have been peak skill NW, there’s more competition at the highest level than ever before. I like you man but your only view into comp NW the last few years has been your occasional league you host where you primarily do administration work. You can have your opinions but they’re hardly well informed. Old gen “golden days” bias strikes again

LG, 40th, 6te, Godfreid Regs, I forget Jerrys reg name but that one, wipe the floor with old regs that were hailed as GOAT for beating on pub regs in 1v1s once a week.

Game competition didn’t deteriorate over time, it evolved. Now regiments are finally irrelevant

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GhNLuzYxqw4z9t3r5Q8UbLNHOW_2O6qRkKR_XYgnhbQ/

On my phone over lunch sorry if this is incoherent as fuck
I'm sorry but you cannot argue that a prime LG wouldn't get washed by a prime 12th.
Do you even know who all makes up prime LG? Look at 70% of your last league’s participants.

Washes, easily.

Piktonss rn would be a top 15 player in 2013
Like 90% of our remaining community were in the LG at some point, what's your point?
[close]
my point is that melee has evolved exponentially since the 12th existed
and leading has exponentially degraded since the 12th existed
weird balance
this is so much cap I am in pain

I will get video evidence for you later don’t worry
here's ur video evidence

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IqhUPrsFBI
[close]
[close]
Ah yes a three year old video of one of the three times the 30th played the LG

4 months into Russian and I’s leading together extravaganza. Forget the other 3-4 years where we adapted new strategies and actually learned to play off each others leading styles and how to counter regiments that run

But wait if we tied Purple Panda but beat AsianP & Karth...PurplePanda better than AsianP and Karth???

I cannot tell if you’re trolling me because you know this stuff tilts me or you’re actually serious
It's mostly a joke because I know it tilts you..  :P
[close]
That's like comparing Aaron Rodgers first year as a QB and judging his career because of that. Furthermore, our regiment was still talented before the 45e merged into us. We lost a portion of our guys after NWL S7 due to the 3e reforming, but eventually began to win.
Didn't mean any disrespect to your e-peen, sir, and I think my original point has been diluded. I was only trying to imply that if you had trouble dealing with the 30th (3months into our existence as well) that your regiment would have a hard time beating the 12th! Please do not let my opinion offend you, it doesn't mean much and there are basically 0 regiments I think that could have beaten them in their prime. I think your regiment was still talented even before the 45e merge I agree, which is why I thought it was completely unnessecary when it happened.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Wastee on January 19, 2021, 10:09:42 pm
Spoiler
Ah yes, our inferior leading compared to the 30th. It's not like most of those rounds we missed close shots like this.

Spoiler
(https://i.gyazo.com/6b8f7fe0f9fc42ed0c9f4620283c1983.jpg)
[close]

Also third month as a regiment and me as a leader. That's like comparing Aaron Rodgers first year as a QB and judging his career because of that.
I don't mean to put the 30th over the LG you guys are clearly the better regiment I meant to highlight how our regiment is kinda shit and how both of our leading here is very scuffed.. and if we're lookin' at the LGs history as a whole we gotta include the rough months pre-45e..

Spoiler
Spoiler
Spoiler
Best player of decade obviously RussianFury

Tho if it%u2019s pure skill based Yoshie but this is DECADE
if it's pure skill based its a tough question, if it's overall skill as a player and leader I'd argue AsianP
I'd agree with this statement.
I%u2019d still put Russian above and this isn%u2019t just him being the loml

Russian%u2019s won more tournaments than any other player and has consistently been a top player the last 6 years. I%u2019d even say prime Russian vs prime AsianP Russian is the better gfer Asian the better dueler

This is debatable tho, also I wouldn%u2019t be surprised if some people put Jackie as the best
I think you are holding some bias there but you're entitled to your opinion. There's a thread that highlights the players with the most tournament wins of all time.. although it's probably a little outdated at this point. I remember seeing AsianP in the top 3 at least for most tournaments ever won, I think the others were like Tammo and Russian but even so it's close. When it comes to overall player skill though you have to include leading and I don't think it's very debatable if I were to say AsianP is tier(s) above RussianFury in this category not only because of what he's pioneered with leading but also what he's accomplished with his leading skill (not regimental skill) over the last decade, and no offense to what the LG's accomplished but I feel like late 2017 - 2020 is a very unimpressive era in NW in terms of regimental skill which is where we saw the LG dominate.

Spoiler
[close]
Yeah I operate the sheet of all tournament wins, AsianP has 4 less wins but only 7 first places whereas Russian has 15.

My opinion of the category is skill, not leadership (tho I still put Russian ahead on leadership)
Also bruh the last 4 years have been peak skill NW, there%u2019s more competition at the highest level than ever before. I like you man but your only view into comp NW the last few years has been your occasional league you host where you primarily do administration work. You can have your opinions but they%u2019re hardly well informed. Old gen %u201Cgolden days%u201D bias strikes again

LG, 40th, 6te, Godfreid Regs, I forget Jerrys reg name but that one, wipe the floor with old regs that were hailed as GOAT for beating on pub regs in 1v1s once a week.

Game competition didn%u2019t deteriorate over time, it evolved. Now regiments are finally irrelevant

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GhNLuzYxqw4z9t3r5Q8UbLNHOW_2O6qRkKR_XYgnhbQ/

On my phone over lunch sorry if this is incoherent as fuck
I'm sorry but you cannot argue that a prime LG wouldn't get washed by a prime 12th.
Do you even know who all makes up prime LG? Look at 70% of your last league%u2019s participants.

Washes, easily.

Piktonss rn would be a top 15 player in 2013
Like 90% of our remaining community were in the LG at some point, what's your point?
[close]
my point is that melee has evolved exponentially since the 12th existed
and leading has exponentially degraded since the 12th existed
weird balance
this is so much cap I am in pain

I will get video evidence for you later don%u2019t worry
here's ur video evidence

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IqhUPrsFBI
[close]
[close]
Ah yes a three year old video of one of the three times the 30th played the LG

4 months into Russian and I%u2019s leading together extravaganza. Forget the other 3-4 years where we adapted new strategies and actually learned to play off each others leading styles and how to counter regiments that run

But wait if we tied Purple Panda but beat AsianP & Karth...PurplePanda better than AsianP and Karth???

I cannot tell if you%u2019re trolling me because you know this stuff tilts me or you%u2019re actually serious
It's mostly a joke because I know it tilts you..  :P
[close]
That's like comparing Aaron Rodgers first year as a QB and judging his career because of that. Furthermore, our regiment was still talented before the 45e merged into us. We lost a portion of our guys after NWL S7 due to the 3e reforming, but eventually began to win.
yall were good but the skill gap from 3eVolt to LG was obvious. Before 45e merged LG was some mid like LG was definitely the 2nd best regiment but 3eVolt was far better than the LG before the 45e joined.
3e and LG traded wins before and after the 45e merged. Under the 3e name they had more wins against us but we lasted longer and continued to grow

Also depends on if you count 91st, 42nd, and 98e as 3e or completely new regs
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: ~NickCole~ on January 19, 2021, 10:29:30 pm
best recruiter thx
i might have taken that title from ya.  8)
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Theodin on January 19, 2021, 10:30:10 pm
The 71st was the best regiment of the decade and I’m serious
For me it’s
71st
63e
LG
12th
3e and other reforms

Also why do we still count Windflower as someone with any insight into competitive NW? Few notable accomplishments except for the admittedly successful PSG
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Wastee on January 19, 2021, 10:37:17 pm
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Ah yes, our inferior leading compared to the 30th. It's not like most of those rounds we missed close shots like this.

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Also third month as a regiment and me as a leader. That's like comparing Aaron Rodgers first year as a QB and judging his career because of that.
I don't mean to put the 30th over the LG you guys are clearly the better regiment I meant to highlight how our regiment is kinda shit and how both of our leading here is very scuffed.. and if we're lookin' at the LGs history as a whole we gotta include the rough months pre-45e..

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Best player of decade obviously RussianFury

Tho if it%u2019s pure skill based Yoshie but this is DECADE
if it's pure skill based its a tough question, if it's overall skill as a player and leader I'd argue AsianP
I'd agree with this statement.
I%u2019d still put Russian above and this isn%u2019t just him being the loml

Russian%u2019s won more tournaments than any other player and has consistently been a top player the last 6 years. I%u2019d even say prime Russian vs prime AsianP Russian is the better gfer Asian the better dueler

This is debatable tho, also I wouldn%u2019t be surprised if some people put Jackie as the best
I think you are holding some bias there but you're entitled to your opinion. There's a thread that highlights the players with the most tournament wins of all time.. although it's probably a little outdated at this point. I remember seeing AsianP in the top 3 at least for most tournaments ever won, I think the others were like Tammo and Russian but even so it's close. When it comes to overall player skill though you have to include leading and I don't think it's very debatable if I were to say AsianP is tier(s) above RussianFury in this category not only because of what he's pioneered with leading but also what he's accomplished with his leading skill (not regimental skill) over the last decade, and no offense to what the LG's accomplished but I feel like late 2017 - 2020 is a very unimpressive era in NW in terms of regimental skill which is where we saw the LG dominate.

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Yeah I operate the sheet of all tournament wins, AsianP has 4 less wins but only 7 first places whereas Russian has 15.

My opinion of the category is skill, not leadership (tho I still put Russian ahead on leadership)
Also bruh the last 4 years have been peak skill NW, there%u2019s more competition at the highest level than ever before. I like you man but your only view into comp NW the last few years has been your occasional league you host where you primarily do administration work. You can have your opinions but they%u2019re hardly well informed. Old gen %u201Cgolden days%u201D bias strikes again

LG, 40th, 6te, Godfreid Regs, I forget Jerrys reg name but that one, wipe the floor with old regs that were hailed as GOAT for beating on pub regs in 1v1s once a week.

Game competition didn%u2019t deteriorate over time, it evolved. Now regiments are finally irrelevant

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GhNLuzYxqw4z9t3r5Q8UbLNHOW_2O6qRkKR_XYgnhbQ/

On my phone over lunch sorry if this is incoherent as fuck
I'm sorry but you cannot argue that a prime LG wouldn't get washed by a prime 12th.
Do you even know who all makes up prime LG? Look at 70% of your last league%u2019s participants.

Washes, easily.

Piktonss rn would be a top 15 player in 2013
Like 90% of our remaining community were in the LG at some point, what's your point?
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my point is that melee has evolved exponentially since the 12th existed
and leading has exponentially degraded since the 12th existed
weird balance
this is so much cap I am in pain

I will get video evidence for you later don%u2019t worry
here's ur video evidence

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Ah yes a three year old video of one of the three times the 30th played the LG

4 months into Russian and I%u2019s leading together extravaganza. Forget the other 3-4 years where we adapted new strategies and actually learned to play off each others leading styles and how to counter regiments that run

But wait if we tied Purple Panda but beat AsianP & Karth...PurplePanda better than AsianP and Karth???

I cannot tell if you%u2019re trolling me because you know this stuff tilts me or you%u2019re actually serious
It's mostly a joke because I know it tilts you..  :P
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That's like comparing Aaron Rodgers first year as a QB and judging his career because of that. Furthermore, our regiment was still talented before the 45e merged into us. We lost a portion of our guys after NWL S7 due to the 3e reforming, but eventually began to win.
yall were good but the skill gap from 3eVolt to LG was obvious. Before 45e merged LG was some mid like LG was definitely the 2nd best regiment but 3eVolt was far better than the LG before the 45e joined.
3e and LG traded wins before and after the 45e merged. Under the 3e name they had more wins against us but we lasted longer and continued to grow

Also depends on if you count 91st, 42nd, and 98e as 3e or completely new regs
with that logic here wouldn't it just be agreed that 3e would've had that same progression if not better if they continued to be the 3e in the same span the LG was around. (that is if we are not counting 91st 42nd 98e, if we are counting these regiments as the 3e then I would say it's not even an argument at this point.)
Well LG was 16-5 vs 91st, 98e, and 42nd then after 42nd died LG mowed through mostly everyone until 40th formed then it was back and fourth wins again, but we got the IRL win

Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Windflower on January 19, 2021, 10:39:16 pm
The 71st was the best regiment of the decade and I’m serious
For me it’s
71st
63e
LG
12th
3e and other reforms

Also why do we still count Windflower as someone with any insight into competitive NW? Few notable accomplishments except for the admittedly successful PSG
rent free
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: ~NickCole~ on January 19, 2021, 10:41:37 pm
42nd comeback vs LG never forget!!  8)
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: James. on January 19, 2021, 10:43:17 pm
42nd comeback vs LG never forget!!  8)
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Wastee on January 19, 2021, 10:51:57 pm
42nd comeback vs LG never forget!!  8)
That was a sad day

I’m puttin my historian glasses down for now but LG reg of decade lets goooo
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: BabyJesus on January 19, 2021, 10:54:38 pm
The 71st was the best regiment of the decade and I%u2019m serious
For me it%u2019s
71st
63e
LG
12th
3e and other reforms

Also why do we still count Windflower as someone with any insight into competitive NW? Few notable accomplishments except for the admittedly successful PSG
why is the 71st ahead of those other regiments tho?

I think it has to be between LG 63e or 3e (if you count all the reforms)
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 19, 2021, 10:57:27 pm
The 71st was the best regiment of the decade and I’m serious
For me it’s
71st
63e
LG
12th
3e and other reforms

Also why do we still count Windflower as someone with any insight into competitive NW? Few notable accomplishments except for the admittedly successful PSG
why is the 71st ahead of those other regiments tho?
Because theodin was in the 71st first
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: BabyJesus on January 19, 2021, 10:58:28 pm
The 71st was the best regiment of the decade and I’m serious
For me it’s
71st
63e
LG
12th
3e and other reforms

Also why do we still count Windflower as someone with any insight into competitive NW? Few notable accomplishments except for the admittedly successful PSG
why is the 71st ahead of those other regiments tho?
Because theodin was in the 71st first
the 71st should honestly only be included if you wanna talk about peaks or short spans, not the decade
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Golden. on January 19, 2021, 11:38:36 pm
Why are we doing NW decade awards when NW is just 8 years old


 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Theodin on January 19, 2021, 11:57:03 pm
The 71st was the best regiment of the decade and I’m serious
For me it’s
71st
63e
LG
12th
3e and other reforms

Also why do we still count Windflower as someone with any insight into competitive NW? Few notable accomplishments except for the admittedly successful PSG
why is the 71st ahead of those other regiments tho?
Because theodin was in the 71st first
the 71st should honestly only be included if you wanna talk about peaks or short spans, not the decade
yes, my argument is that the peaks were the highest of everyone and therefore that should be the determining factor. which is also why the 12th is up there
but if you weigh more in terms of longevity then the 71st goes down a few spots
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 20, 2021, 12:09:39 am
Why are we doing NW decade awards when NW is just 8 years old


 ;D ;D ;D
Typical European math smh
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Fartknocker on January 20, 2021, 12:33:49 am
Take into account pure melee skill, shooting, longevity, competitiveness, leadership, and influence:

63e
3eVolt
LG
12th/18th
71st
PLG
LIR
USMC

These are the greatest regiments of all time. Not really up for debate.

In that order - debatable - but it is what I believe.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: BabyJesus on January 20, 2021, 01:12:29 am
The 71st was the best regiment of the decade and I%u2019m serious
For me it%u2019s
71st
63e
LG
12th
3e and other reforms

Also why do we still count Windflower as someone with any insight into competitive NW? Few notable accomplishments except for the admittedly successful PSG
why is the 71st ahead of those other regiments tho?
Because theodin was in the 71st first
the 71st should honestly only be included if you wanna talk about peaks or short spans, not the decade
yes, my argument is that the peaks were the highest of everyone and therefore that should be the determining factor. which is also why the 12th is up there
but if you weigh more in terms of longevity then the 71st goes down a few spots
I don%u2019t even think their peak was the highest. I%u2019m too lazy to check but didn%u2019t they tie the 63e in NWL and just barely win by points?

As much as I hate to admit it I think the 63e are at the top/near the top for any category besides like individual skill
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Theodin on January 20, 2021, 01:16:20 am
The 71st was the best regiment of the decade and I’m serious
For me it’s
71st
63e
LG
12th
3e and other reforms

Also why do we still count Windflower as someone with any insight into competitive NW? Few notable accomplishments except for the admittedly successful PSG
why is the 71st ahead of those other regiments tho?
Because theodin was in the 71st first
the 71st should honestly only be included if you wanna talk about peaks or short spans, not the decade
yes, my argument is that the peaks were the highest of everyone and therefore that should be the determining factor. which is also why the 12th is up there
but if you weigh more in terms of longevity then the 71st goes down a few spots
I don’t even think their peak was the highest. I’m too lazy to check but didn’t they tie the 63e in NWL and just barely win by points?
that 63e was an all time crew. people forgot the melee competence in that lineup, plus the insane shooting and leadership they had. they were a top tier reg
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: fireboy on January 20, 2021, 01:24:50 am
Old gens rule new gens drool
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Headless on January 20, 2021, 03:10:00 am
Can't really vote being a NW baby and all

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Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: ibsocal on January 20, 2021, 03:33:40 am
I'm going on a nomination strike until the oppression of my people ends :-X We demand representation!

dont make me put out an exposée list on which regiments were the best at anti cav >:( >:((number 1 will shock you!)
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 20, 2021, 03:37:38 am
I'm going on a nomination strike until the oppression of my people ends :-X We demand representation!

dont make me put out an exposée list on which regiments were the best at anti cav >:( >:((number 1 will shock you!)
cav bad
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: RussianFury on January 20, 2021, 03:53:36 am
I'm going on a nomination strike until the oppression of my people ends :-X We demand representation!

dont make me put out an exposée list on which regiments were the best at anti cav >:( >:((number 1 will shock you!)
cav bad
bad cav
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: ~NickCole~ on January 20, 2021, 04:03:38 am
Old gens rule new gens drool
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Xethos on January 20, 2021, 04:14:20 am
Since we're having old conversations anyway . . .

There are a lot of things to do in NW that take some skill and game knowledge to be good at. Nobody really ever talks about the top artillerists. Cavalry has a wierd place now, but it's been irrelevent in North America for long enough that nobody even remembers the old cav players (except for me, because I don't shut up about it). Shinto at least remembers one of the top sappers ever from his days as a roving walnut. There were even people back in the day who could do it all. Even entire regiments who did it all (not even talking about detachments like the 63e had).

That the entire "best player ever" discussion is solely based on who could best use one weapon as one class, and that the best regiment based on league 1v1s and bayonet melee is all a little sad. Most of the listed regiments couldn't even form double ranks unless they had fifteen minutes and tape on the ground, let alone fast enough to fire and move before artillery landed. How many of them could play anything other than infantry at a reasonably competitive level?
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Fartknocker on January 20, 2021, 04:47:29 am
Since we're having old conversations anyway . . .

There are a lot of things to do in NW that take some skill and game knowledge to be good at. Nobody really ever talks about the top artillerists. Cavalry has a wierd place now, but it's been irrelevent in North America for long enough that nobody even remembers the old cav players (except for me, because I don't shut up about it). Shinto at least remembers one of the top sappers ever from his days as a roving walnut. There were even people back in the day who could do it all. Even entire regiments who did it all (not even talking about detachments like the 63e had).

That the entire "best player ever" discussion is solely based on who could best use one weapon as one class, and that the best regiment based on league 1v1s and bayonet melee is all a little sad. Most of the listed regiments couldn't even form double ranks unless they had fifteen minutes and tape on the ground, let alone fast enough to fire and move before artillery landed. How many of them could play anything other than infantry at a reasonably competitive level?

That's why I've always put the PLG and LIR in my top regiments of all time. They were so consistently good at what they did and lasted for years. People overlook them all the time even though they are two of the most well-known regiments to exist in the game.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: ShintoSkookum on January 20, 2021, 05:16:27 am
Since we're having old conversations anyway . . .

There are a lot of things to do in NW that take some skill and game knowledge to be good at. Nobody really ever talks about the top artillerists. Cavalry has a wierd place now, but it's been irrelevent in North America for long enough that nobody even remembers the old cav players (except for me, because I don't shut up about it). Shinto at least remembers one of the top sappers ever from his days as a roving walnut. There were even people back in the day who could do it all. Even entire regiments who did it all (not even talking about detachments like the 63e had).

That the entire "best player ever" discussion is solely based on who could best use one weapon as one class, and that the best regiment based on league 1v1s and bayonet melee is all a little sad. Most of the listed regiments couldn't even form double ranks unless they had fifteen minutes and tape on the ground, let alone fast enough to fire and move before artillery landed. How many of them could play anything other than infantry at a reasonably competitive level?
one of? dude, NOBODY can even come close to what that dude did. anyone who thinks someone else is a better sapper than juice kelly is delusional

as far as arty goes, bear and yooper were always really good and they carried godfreid and i to the ship battle championship no cap
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 20, 2021, 05:28:39 am
Since we're having old conversations anyway . . .

There are a lot of things to do in NW that take some skill and game knowledge to be good at. Nobody really ever talks about the top artillerists. Cavalry has a wierd place now, but it's been irrelevent in North America for long enough that nobody even remembers the old cav players (except for me, because I don't shut up about it). Shinto at least remembers one of the top sappers ever from his days as a roving walnut. There were even people back in the day who could do it all. Even entire regiments who did it all (not even talking about detachments like the 63e had).

That the entire "best player ever" discussion is solely based on who could best use one weapon as one class, and that the best regiment based on league 1v1s and bayonet melee is all a little sad. Most of the listed regiments couldn't even form double ranks unless they had fifteen minutes and tape on the ground, let alone fast enough to fire and move before artillery landed. How many of them could play anything other than infantry at a reasonably competitive level?
xethos wishes he was attila the nun dropping fat dimes on kids and getting 50+ kills in a map

But really, the majority of competitions for this game where for melee infantry and for regimental 1v1s so I would think most people would believe that the best player at those skillsets would be the "Best Player" so that's why everyone discusses it. At that, we barely have enough people to discuss it, the most popular activity. When going into other aspects even fewer people remember.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: |Viper| on January 20, 2021, 05:44:10 am
AsianP was overall better than Russian. Asian could duel/groupfight when Russian could just groupfight. Overall though regiment wise, the LG outranks the 3eVolt, 98e, 42nd etc... since it is a decade thing I would say 63e/71st for the top spots but I think LG definitely should be up there. LG after the 45e merge was a powerhouse and pre 45e LG would trade wins with the 3eVolt, but I think after the merge it definitely switched sides fast with Pinoy, Rafael, Oatmeal etc.. all joining

Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Stroke0fd34th on January 20, 2021, 07:40:44 am
3eVolt should be considered the best regiment of the decade, it's the only regiment that's had a consistent competitive impact in pretty much every era of competitive NW, I would say its peak skill doesn't quite match the LG's S9 roster, because no one does, but if we're really talking about a decade and not month-long or 1-2 year spans, it should be 3eVolt, which was competitive since 2013 (although has disbanded/reformed a few times).

If 63e had continued to be relevant past mid-2016 I would potentially consider them, but I think 3eVolt continuing past that gives it the edge, but otherwise, kind of the same list fartknocker has.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Yoop on January 20, 2021, 08:09:19 am
Since we're having old conversations anyway . . .

There are a lot of things to do in NW that take some skill and game knowledge to be good at. Nobody really ever talks about the top artillerists. Cavalry has a wierd place now, but it's been irrelevent in North America for long enough that nobody even remembers the old cav players (except for me, because I don't shut up about it). Shinto at least remembers one of the top sappers ever from his days as a roving walnut. There were even people back in the day who could do it all. Even entire regiments who did it all (not even talking about detachments like the 63e had).

That the entire "best player ever" discussion is solely based on who could best use one weapon as one class, and that the best regiment based on league 1v1s and bayonet melee is all a little sad. Most of the listed regiments couldn't even form double ranks unless they had fifteen minutes and tape on the ground, let alone fast enough to fire and move before artillery landed. How many of them could play anything other than infantry at a reasonably competitive level?

These lists are a joke considering they really only consider competitive infantry which is a huge circle jerk anyways. Most of the players can only use muskets and can’t play anything else. Most cav players honestly can do it all from what I’ve seen. Not to mention 1LH who is rarely mentioned yet did very well against these regiments despite only playing cav (along with the IV). If you’re going to have a decade awards list, maybe mention more factors or label it for just infantry. Kinda pointless making the same lists over and over when it’s just the same 20 infantry guys arguing over and over again.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: [Stryker] on January 20, 2021, 08:43:29 am
Where’s best casual regiment of the decade
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 20, 2021, 09:10:58 am
Since we're having old conversations anyway . . .

There are a lot of things to do in NW that take some skill and game knowledge to be good at. Nobody really ever talks about the top artillerists. Cavalry has a wierd place now, but it's been irrelevent in North America for long enough that nobody even remembers the old cav players (except for me, because I don't shut up about it). Shinto at least remembers one of the top sappers ever from his days as a roving walnut. There were even people back in the day who could do it all. Even entire regiments who did it all (not even talking about detachments like the 63e had).

That the entire "best player ever" discussion is solely based on who could best use one weapon as one class, and that the best regiment based on league 1v1s and bayonet melee is all a little sad. Most of the listed regiments couldn't even form double ranks unless they had fifteen minutes and tape on the ground, let alone fast enough to fire and move before artillery landed. How many of them could play anything other than infantry at a reasonably competitive level?

These lists are a joke considering they really only consider competitive infantry which is a huge circle jerk anyways. Most of the players can only use muskets and can’t play anything else. Most cav players honestly can do it all from what I’ve seen. Not to mention 1LH who is rarely mentioned yet did very well against these regiments despite only playing cav (along with the IV). If you’re going to have a decade awards list, maybe mention more factors or label it for just infantry. Kinda pointless making the same lists over and over when it’s just the same 20 infantry guys arguing over and over again.
This is something that someone who has never been nominated for a NW Award would say smh
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Yoop on January 20, 2021, 09:24:56 am
Since we're having old conversations anyway . . .

There are a lot of things to do in NW that take some skill and game knowledge to be good at. Nobody really ever talks about the top artillerists. Cavalry has a wierd place now, but it's been irrelevent in North America for long enough that nobody even remembers the old cav players (except for me, because I don't shut up about it). Shinto at least remembers one of the top sappers ever from his days as a roving walnut. There were even people back in the day who could do it all. Even entire regiments who did it all (not even talking about detachments like the 63e had).

That the entire "best player ever" discussion is solely based on who could best use one weapon as one class, and that the best regiment based on league 1v1s and bayonet melee is all a little sad. Most of the listed regiments couldn't even form double ranks unless they had fifteen minutes and tape on the ground, let alone fast enough to fire and move before artillery landed. How many of them could play anything other than infantry at a reasonably competitive level?

These lists are a joke considering they really only consider competitive infantry which is a huge circle jerk anyways. Most of the players can only use muskets and can’t play anything else. Most cav players honestly can do it all from what I’ve seen. Not to mention 1LH who is rarely mentioned yet did very well against these regiments despite only playing cav (along with the IV). If you’re going to have a decade awards list, maybe mention more factors or label it for just infantry. Kinda pointless making the same lists over and over when it’s just the same 20 infantry guys arguing over and over again.
This is something that someone who has never been nominated for a NW Award would say smh

 Just loses validity IMO when it’s focused on one group of players who only really know about infantry. You’d think if you spent years on a game, you’d at least branch out a little bit. But whatever makes you feel better.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Xethos on January 20, 2021, 09:25:32 am
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one of? dude, NOBODY can even come close to what that dude did. anyone who thinks someone else is a better sapper than juice kelly is delusional

as far as arty goes, bear and yooper were always really good and they carried godfreid and i to the ship battle championship no cap
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Nobody ever beat him in building camping, but there were a couple of people who figured out how to bomb the balcony on Arabian Harbor. Although thinking on it, I remember Juice Kelly building elevated platforms for artillery on random maps within a minute, which I don't remember anybody else doing.

Joshly, Gamechanger/Richard, and Munro come to mind for artillery. Munro even got a Thundersnow animation for a signature because of his cannons in MM. More recently, JJ and German Gunner.

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That's why I've always put the PLG and LIR in my top regiments of all time. They were so consistently good at what they did and lasted for years. People overlook them all the time even though they are two of the most well-known regiments to exist in the game.
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Everyone forgets too that the PLG started out as infantry, and were actually good at it. I don't remember if Pepper led it originally or if Ice did, but they started as the 1erVL. I still rate the 2013 PLG as the single best NA cav lineup in the game. For what it's worth, the 1LH started the same way, as the . . . 8thRI, I think. They changed names at least once.

I'd probably rate the LIR more highly if they didn't depend so heavily on their regimental lawyer to function for so long. That said, Jetch is the kind of player who I think gets underrated because he didn't focus on bayonets. He was decent at it, reasonably good as a cav player, knew how to get kills with cannons and howitzers, and he could do all of that while micromanaging three detachments and typing essays in internal about how an officer attacking by himself isn't really ramboing if his sergeant is donating to the server box fund.

I still want to rate Smithy's Marins at or near the top just because they did everything with the same group of people and won at just about everything. This being before they quit playing by, what, 2013 because they hated the upstab replacing the awlpike overswing that MM had.

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But really, the majority of competitions for this game where for melee infantry and for regimental 1v1s so I would think most people would believe that the best player at those skillsets would be the "Best Player" so that's why everyone discusses it. At that, we barely have enough people to discuss it, the most popular activity. When going into other aspects even fewer people remember.
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Everybody in the NA cavalry community hated each other too much to do many tournaments, and basically none of the top cav players wanted to do anything competitive when cav was at its peak. There's just no data for cav, and I get the inevitable limitations to talking about cav players that causes. That and, even if there were stats from over the years, K/D means substantially less in cav groupfighting than infantry groupfighting. I don't even know how to begin ranking artillery players other than watching them extensively . . . something you can't do to compare, say, Niko to Joshly.

That said, I don't think the correct response to being unable to identify minute differences between cav or arty players is to completely write off every non-infantry class. Playing at a comparatively high level in several different classes is harder than playing at a high level in one class. I couldn't do it, even back when I was passable at cav. It's become a lost art, and I don't think that's a good thing. Surely having more than one skill counts for something.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 20, 2021, 10:06:33 am
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Since we're having old conversations anyway . . .

There are a lot of things to do in NW that take some skill and game knowledge to be good at. Nobody really ever talks about the top artillerists. Cavalry has a wierd place now, but it's been irrelevent in North America for long enough that nobody even remembers the old cav players (except for me, because I don't shut up about it). Shinto at least remembers one of the top sappers ever from his days as a roving walnut. There were even people back in the day who could do it all. Even entire regiments who did it all (not even talking about detachments like the 63e had).

That the entire "best player ever" discussion is solely based on who could best use one weapon as one class, and that the best regiment based on league 1v1s and bayonet melee is all a little sad. Most of the listed regiments couldn't even form double ranks unless they had fifteen minutes and tape on the ground, let alone fast enough to fire and move before artillery landed. How many of them could play anything other than infantry at a reasonably competitive level?

These lists are a joke considering they really only consider competitive infantry which is a huge circle jerk anyways. Most of the players can only use muskets and can’t play anything else. Most cav players honestly can do it all from what I’ve seen. Not to mention 1LH who is rarely mentioned yet did very well against these regiments despite only playing cav (along with the IV). If you’re going to have a decade awards list, maybe mention more factors or label it for just infantry. Kinda pointless making the same lists over and over when it’s just the same 20 infantry guys arguing over and over again.
This is something that someone who has never been nominated for a NW Award would say smh
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Just loses validity IMO when it’s focused on one group of players who only really know about infantry. You’d think if you spent years on a game, you’d at least branch out a little bit. But whatever makes you feel better.

You do realize these are the NW Awards right?


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one of? dude, NOBODY can even come close to what that dude did. anyone who thinks someone else is a better sapper than juice kelly is delusional

as far as arty goes, bear and yooper were always really good and they carried godfreid and i to the ship battle championship no cap
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Nobody ever beat him in building camping, but there were a couple of people who figured out how to bomb the balcony on Arabian Harbor. Although thinking on it, I remember Juice Kelly building elevated platforms for artillery on random maps within a minute, which I don't remember anybody else doing.

Joshly, Gamechanger/Richard, and Munro come to mind for artillery. Munro even got a Thundersnow animation for a signature because of his cannons in MM. More recently, JJ and German Gunner.

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That's why I've always put the PLG and LIR in my top regiments of all time. They were so consistently good at what they did and lasted for years. People overlook them all the time even though they are two of the most well-known regiments to exist in the game.
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Everyone forgets too that the PLG started out as infantry, and were actually good at it. I don't remember if Pepper led it originally or if Ice did, but they started as the 1erVL. I still rate the 2013 PLG as the single best NA cav lineup in the game. For what it's worth, the 1LH started the same way, as the . . . 8thRI, I think. They changed names at least once.

I'd probably rate the LIR more highly if they didn't depend so heavily on their regimental lawyer to function for so long. That said, Jetch is the kind of player who I think gets underrated because he didn't focus on bayonets. He was decent at it, reasonably good as a cav player, knew how to get kills with cannons and howitzers, and he could do all of that while micromanaging three detachments and typing essays in internal about how an officer attacking by himself isn't really ramboing if his sergeant is donating to the server box fund.

I still want to rate Smithy's Marins at or near the top just because they did everything with the same group of people and won at just about everything. This being before they quit playing by, what, 2013 because they hated the upstab replacing the awlpike overswing that MM had.

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But really, the majority of competitions for this game where for melee infantry and for regimental 1v1s so I would think most people would believe that the best player at those skillsets would be the "Best Player" so that's why everyone discusses it. At that, we barely have enough people to discuss it, the most popular activity. When going into other aspects even fewer people remember.
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Everybody in the NA cavalry community hated each other too much to do many tournaments, and basically none of the top cav players wanted to do anything competitive when cav was at its peak. There's just no data for cav, and I get the inevitable limitations to talking about cav players that causes. That and, even if there were stats from over the years, K/D means substantially less in cav groupfighting than infantry groupfighting. I don't even know how to begin ranking artillery players other than watching them extensively . . . something you can't do to compare, say, Niko to Joshly.

That said, I don't think the correct response to being unable to identify minute differences between cav or arty players is to completely write off every non-infantry class. Playing at a comparatively high level in several different classes is harder than playing at a high level in one class. I couldn't do it, even back when I was passable at cav. It's become a lost art, and I don't think that's a good thing. Surely having more than one skill counts for something.
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Sorry King, I can't hear you in the Mess Hall, maybe I could if this was a child board.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: 19boboy97 on January 20, 2021, 11:12:20 am
(https://i.imgflip.com/4ui3p9.jpg)
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Steinmann on January 20, 2021, 11:45:39 am
Irish is top 1 NA
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Kraz on January 20, 2021, 12:04:49 pm
sztinman
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Godsworn Alexiel on January 20, 2021, 12:07:33 pm
Obligatory Kelly’s Rangers nominated for all categories post
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Eamon on January 20, 2021, 01:59:54 pm
Irish is top 1 NA

Finally a man who gets it
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Python | Smeagol on January 20, 2021, 02:41:25 pm
Since we're having old conversations anyway . . .

There are a lot of things to do in NW that take some skill and game knowledge to be good at. Nobody really ever talks about the top artillerists. Cavalry has a wierd place now, but it's been irrelevent in North America for long enough that nobody even remembers the old cav players (except for me, because I don't shut up about it). Shinto at least remembers one of the top sappers ever from his days as a roving walnut. There were even people back in the day who could do it all. Even entire regiments who did it all (not even talking about detachments like the 63e had).

That the entire "best player ever" discussion is solely based on who could best use one weapon as one class, and that the best regiment based on league 1v1s and bayonet melee is all a little sad. Most of the listed regiments couldn't even form double ranks unless they had fifteen minutes and tape on the ground, let alone fast enough to fire and move before artillery landed. How many of them could play anything other than infantry at a reasonably competitive level?

These lists are a joke considering they really only consider competitive infantry which is a huge circle jerk anyways. Most of the players can only use muskets and can’t play anything else. Most cav players honestly can do it all from what I’ve seen. Not to mention 1LH who is rarely mentioned yet did very well against these regiments despite only playing cav (along with the IV). If you’re going to have a decade awards list, maybe mention more factors or label it for just infantry. Kinda pointless making the same lists over and over when it’s just the same 20 infantry guys arguing over and over again.

the only cav player who's also good infantry is shadey lol.

Sure, some aspects of cavalry are very skilful but not on the level/as much as compared to infantry imo
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Kore on January 20, 2021, 02:56:00 pm
I don't see how casual regiments and players are any relevant in a discussion about the best regiment and player. You probably can do a category for each, competitive reg, casual reg and cav, but if we talk the best player anything other than competitive inf is literally irrelevant as musket infantry is arguably the hardest class to master.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Rikkert on January 20, 2021, 03:05:20 pm
Arty 'skill' is simply unquantifiable. Yes there is skill to knowing the range, but that is quite easy to learn. In LB's arty relies on ur opponents being absolutely fucking blind or simply not paying attention, not your personal skill. You can learn some tricks on how you can bounce cannonballs over hills or how you can fire cannonballs through the top of a hill, but that is about it. These tricks are not very difficult to learn and can only be used very situationally.

There are not many cav players who are good at inf. Shadey is good at both but became good at comp inf first afaik. Ilypa is above average at both.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: [Stryker] on January 20, 2021, 03:16:34 pm
I don't see how casual regiments and players are any relevant in a discussion about the best regiment and player. You probably can do a category for each, competitive reg, casual reg and cav, but if we talk the best player anything other than competitive inf is literally irrelevant as musket infantry is arguably the hardest class to master.
In my opinion the best players are loyal, moral, ethical, dedicated, and good friends, melees just a potential bonus
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: BabyJesus on January 20, 2021, 04:48:00 pm
3eVolt should be considered the best regiment of the decade, it's the only regiment that's had a consistent competitive impact in pretty much every era of competitive NW, I would say its peak skill doesn't quite match the LG's S9 roster, because no one does, but if we're really talking about a decade and not month-long or 1-2 year spans, it should be 3eVolt, which was competitive since 2013 (although has disbanded/reformed a few times).

If 63e had continued to be relevant past mid-2016 I would potentially consider them, but I think 3eVolt continuing past that gives it the edge, but otherwise, kind of the same list fartknocker has.
All the reforms make it really hard to rank the 3e imo
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Zzehth on January 20, 2021, 05:16:59 pm
3eVolt is a top 5 NA regiment all time or top 3 (debatable), but its a joke to say it was the best during the decade. 3e was always on 12th's and 63e's shadow. Those 2 regiments had to disband to finally achieve something. (2012-2015?). I could be wrong, havent played anything competetive after 2015.

I agree AsianP (duel/gf)/Tammo(duel) as the best player of the decade.
Russian indeed is the best player after 2016.

Or just start bringing "palmares" of all regiments, and make a real comparison.






Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: ~NickCole~ on January 20, 2021, 05:38:26 pm
3eVolt is a top 5 NA regiment all time or top 3 (debatable), but its a joke to say it was the best during the decade. 3e was always on 12th's and 63e's shadow. Those 2 regiments had to disband to finally achieve something. (2012-2015?). I could be wrong, havent played anything competetive after 2015.

I agree AsianP (duel/gf)/Tammo(duel) as the best player of the decade.
Russian indeed is the best player after 2016.

Or just start bringing "palmares" of all regiments, and make a real comparison.
63e finishing top 2 in NWL the first 6 seasons is pretty impressive.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Zzehth on January 20, 2021, 06:02:30 pm
3eVolt is a top 5 NA regiment all time or top 3 (debatable), but its a joke to say it was the best during the decade. 3e was always on 12th's and 63e's shadow. Those 2 regiments had to disband to finally achieve something. (2012-2015?). I could be wrong, havent played anything competetive after 2015.

I agree AsianP (duel/gf)/Tammo(duel) as the best player of the decade.
Russian indeed is the best player after 2016.

Or just start bringing "palmares" of all regiments, and make a real comparison.
63e finishing top 2 in NWL the first 6 seasons is pretty impressive.

Yeah, 63e won 2x nwl and almost got their 3rd but the 71st took it hehe (Season 3, closest season ever)
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Steven_De_Google on January 20, 2021, 06:04:07 pm
the video the community deserves !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5dGU9JAGSM
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Theodin on January 20, 2021, 06:05:28 pm
3eVolt is a top 5 NA regiment all time or top 3 (debatable), but its a joke to say it was the best during the decade. 3e was always on 12th's and 63e's shadow. Those 2 regiments had to disband to finally achieve something. (2012-2015?). I could be wrong, havent played anything competetive after 2015.

I agree AsianP (duel/gf)/Tammo(duel) as the best player of the decade.
Russian indeed is the best player after 2016.

Or just start bringing "palmares" of all regiments, and make a real comparison.
63e finishing top 2 in NWL the first 6 seasons is pretty impressive.
People forget how Karth made a mediocre competitive roster into a contender for years

And @Xethos you’re right about the self sabotage in the cav community. When I was CR I tried to get more competitive events happening with Cav, but the amount of infighting and toxicity was unreal, especially from some of the big leaders. If cav had even tried to make a competitive scene I’d argue for their inclusion into the awards but it was a crazy amount of effort to even make one league work, even with a whole new cav reg comprised of just infantry
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: |Viper| on January 20, 2021, 06:50:16 pm
3eVolt should be considered the best regiment of the decade it's the only regiment that's had a consistent competitive impact in pretty much every era of competitive NW, I would say its peak skill doesn't quite match the LG's S9 roster, because no one does, but if we're really talking about a decade and not month-long or 1-2 year spans, it should be 3eVolt, which was competitive since 2013 (although has disbanded/reformed a few times).

If 63e had continued to be relevant past mid-2016 I would potentially consider them, but I think 3eVolt continuing past that gives it the edge, but otherwise, kind of the same list fartknocker has.
No way bro.

3eVolt is a top 5 NA regiment all time or top 3 (debatable), but its a joke to say it was the best during the decade
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: DarkTemplar on January 20, 2021, 07:04:24 pm
tbf the best event or match has to be EU vs NA 1v1
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: fireboy on January 20, 2021, 07:19:10 pm
Where’s best casual regiment of the decade

1stReddit sweeps that category easily
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Hell Hounds on January 20, 2021, 07:39:33 pm
If you intend to nominate one player of the decade for the whole nw, then its come down to ExtaZz94. All the players you guys have previously mentioned, and by an incommensurable margin, do not qualify. tchaobycimer ;)
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Golden. on January 20, 2021, 08:01:40 pm
If you intend to nominate one player of the decade for the whole nw, then its come down to ExtaZz94. All the players you guys have previously mentioned, and by an incommensurable margin, do not qualify. tchaobycimer ;)

There's a solid argument for it. However can someone tell drake to get off the HellHounds account if you're going to delete your FSE account out of embarrassment at least stay off fse  :)
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: RussianFury on January 20, 2021, 08:03:09 pm
If you intend to nominate one player of the decade for the whole nw, then its come down to ExtaZz94. All the players you guys have previously mentioned, and by an incommensurable margin, do not qualify. tchaobycimer ;)
simp
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Wastee on January 20, 2021, 08:08:24 pm
I shall say more later but

Yes 63e did a lot and was very good for awhile but on the other hand they were also really bad for a long time also at points

ex LG 16-2 record vs 63e (while Karth was still around also)
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: BabyJesus on January 20, 2021, 08:14:13 pm
Remember when Russian was in Odyreg? That should disqualify him from any awards
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: RussianFury on January 20, 2021, 08:15:10 pm
Remember when Russian was in Odyreg? That should disqualify him from any awards
simp
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Yoop on January 20, 2021, 08:48:04 pm
anything other than competitive inf is literally irrelevant as musket infantry is arguably the hardest class to master.
Honestly I feel like the best players should be able to play anything. My point is cav players usually do it all. Infantry has a difficult time fighting people with swords. There’s also more to cav than just 50/50 fights. Blocking on horseback is pretty impressive. Mounted vs dismounted, groupfighting etc.

And @Xethos you’re right about the self sabotage in the cav community. When I was CR I tried to get more competitive events happening with Cav, but the amount of infighting and toxicity was unreal, especially from some of the big leaders. If cav had even tried to make a competitive scene I’d argue for their inclusion into the awards but it was a crazy amount of effort to even make one league work, even with a whole new cav reg comprised of just infantry
You say this like infantry regiments aren’t the most toxic and get downright nasty to each other. Competitive cav was difficult since there wasn’t a large number and they didn’t really care enough. There’s a huge age gap and personality difference from cav and infantry. We also used to host our own 1v1s and group fighting things but honestly everyone just played for fun. The only real drama was probably with Les and banter between who was best which doesn’t even matter cause it’s not like many people played.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: ibsocal on January 20, 2021, 09:07:13 pm
And @Xethos you’re right about the self sabotage in the cav community. When I was CR I tried to get more competitive events happening with Cav, but the amount of infighting and toxicity was unreal, especially from some of the big leaders. If cav had even tried to make a competitive scene I’d argue for their inclusion into the awards but it was a crazy amount of effort to even make one league work, even with a whole new cav reg comprised of just infantry

DAMN! DAMN! DAMN! I wish I coulda seen the aforementioned toxicity first hand because if it was anything like the old 1LH/PLG rivalry its pretty hilarious to look back on, granted we purposefully tried to stay out of any true drama as much as we could but id say from the lens of our guys looking at the rest of the cav community it was mostly just bullshitting with each other all around and not really any real animosity although I do recall some people having issues with each other but I never considered that very representative of their regiments overall dispositions towards each other, certainly nothing that would stop members from taking part in tournaments at the least.


What time period were you CR and pushing for events though Theo? was this during the time I was pushing for a competitive cav sub board? I just personally dont remember who it was at that time, but I do remember trying to spring board us further into public eye after the most successful string of cav tournaments by year ever in 2017 that I got denied. It is unfortunate that not as much of the public was aware as I would have liked that there was multiple large tournaments every week for cav 2v2s and sword 1v1s that the 1LH/PLG were hosting for years, eventually we joined the two together to make much larger brackets. The problem was that by the eye test nobody in large was interested in cav tournies so the easiest way to find yourself invited to them was to spend time in NA Cav groupfighting which routinely 2-4 times a week would be locked for tournies in which randoms would be notified were about to happen and in the case of our tournies often invited to them.


Overall I think I had a good relationship with pretty much every cav reg by the time we stopped regularly playing in mid 2019.. which also is apparently far back enough that people dont remember you for dominating pretty much every event multiple days a week that you went to for the previous 4-5 years, I do realize however this is partly my fault for not being buds with many of the newer regs/guys that popped up after the old guard were all retiring so it would be accurate to say our PR was lacking but it still sucks to see nonetheless.. If only I bumped their threads with memes like everyone else (https://i.imgur.com/0kn6ypS.png)
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: ~NickCole~ on January 20, 2021, 09:09:17 pm
Where’s best casual regiment of the decade

1stReddit sweeps that category easily
Fireboy OP

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63e N00bs
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Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Zzehth on January 20, 2021, 09:12:00 pm
I shall say more later but

Yes 63e did a lot and was very good for awhile but on the other hand they were also really bad for a long time also at points

ex LG 16-2 record vs 63e (while Karth was still around also)

It is true that the LG had a stronger roster than the 63e. But doesn't matter. The 12th had it too.
Dont worry, LG is a top 5 in NA :-*, but in our hearts we know 12th and 63e are the greatest regiments.



Cav is harder to master, thats for sure... but the community was always more infantry focused.
 
The best cav reg was the 12th cav detachment, with our flying dolphins.






Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Wastee on January 20, 2021, 09:49:36 pm
I shall say more later but

Yes 63e did a lot and was very good for awhile but on the other hand they were also really bad for a long time also at points

ex LG 16-2 record vs 63e (while Karth was still around also)

It is true that the LG had a stronger roster than the 63e. But doesn't matter. The 12th had it too.
Dont worry, LG is a top 5 in NA :-*, but in our hearts we know 12th and 63e are the greatest regiments.



Cav is harder to master, thats for sure... but the community was always more infantry focused.
 
The best cav reg was the 12th cav detachment, with our flying dolphins.
kekekekekrkeke

https://youtu.be/HfoW1j5MyrA
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: KillerShark on January 20, 2021, 11:01:13 pm
Where’s best casual regiment of the decade
Doesn't need to be included because everyone already knows it was the 29th without question
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Fartknocker on January 20, 2021, 11:14:56 pm
I shall say more later but

Yes 63e did a lot and was very good for awhile but on the other hand they were also really bad for a long time also at points

ex LG 16-2 record vs 63e (while Karth was still around also)
Ah yes you mean after the entire community boycotted the regiment because we controlled the best/only active server which held the entirety of the public player base. And then we were forced to only play against regiments that would be willing to break the boycott, meaning we had to play a mega stacked LG over and over again until we were eventually dead once Holdfast released.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Theodin on January 20, 2021, 11:17:45 pm
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And @Xethos you’re right about the self sabotage in the cav community. When I was CR I tried to get more competitive events happening with Cav, but the amount of infighting and toxicity was unreal, especially from some of the big leaders. If cav had even tried to make a competitive scene I’d argue for their inclusion into the awards but it was a crazy amount of effort to even make one league work, even with a whole new cav reg comprised of just infantry

DAMN! DAMN! DAMN! I wish I coulda seen the aforementioned toxicity first hand because if it was anything like the old 1LH/PLG rivalry its pretty hilarious to look back on, granted we purposefully tried to stay out of any true drama as much as we could but id say from the lens of our guys looking at the rest of the cav community it was mostly just bullshitting with each other all around and not really any real animosity although I do recall some people having issues with each other but I never considered that very representative of their regiments overall dispositions towards each other, certainly nothing that would stop members from taking part in tournaments at the least.


What time period were you CR and pushing for events though Theo? was this during the time I was pushing for a competitive cav sub board? I just personally dont remember who it was at that time, but I do remember trying to spring board us further into public eye after the most successful string of cav tournaments by year ever in 2017 that I got denied. It is unfortunate that not as much of the public was aware as I would have liked that there was multiple large tournaments every week for cav 2v2s and sword 1v1s that the 1LH/PLG were hosting for years, eventually we joined the two together to make much larger brackets. The problem was that by the eye test nobody in large was interested in cav tournies so the easiest way to find yourself invited to them was to spend time in NA Cav groupfighting which routinely 2-4 times a week would be locked for tournies in which randoms would be notified were about to happen and in the case of our tournies often invited to them.


Overall I think I had a good relationship with pretty much every cav reg by the time we stopped regularly playing in mid 2019.. which also is apparently far back enough that people dont remember you for dominating pretty much every event multiple days a week that you went to for the previous 4-5 years, I do realize however this is partly my fault for not being buds with many of the newer regs/guys that popped up after the old guard were all retiring so it would be accurate to say our PR was lacking but it still sucks to see nonetheless.. If only I bumped their threads with memes like everyone else (https://i.imgur.com/0kn6ypS.png)
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I was CR back in 2017 (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=36030.msg1560500#msg1560500) and improving the integration was one of my biggest priorities. I was good pals with Lurvy at the time and helped Johann out with this league (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=35974.0). Sadly it didn't seem like cav people either cared enough to deepen the ties - I publicized far and wide my goals but never got any engagement from the cav community in return, which was a shame since the 1stMI was actually enormously fun and got a lot of signups. Got some good suggestions for cav comp tournaments from Lurvy and Silly but never really went anywhere. Also the casual scene was so fucking petty at the time (s/o Getty and Karth) so that took up a lot of my time and effort. As well the LG and 3e were at the peak of group hate which I was also forced into. Knowing what I know now, though, I was probably talking to the wrong people!

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You say this like infantry regiments aren’t the most toxic and get downright nasty to each other. Competitive cav was difficult since there wasn’t a large number and they didn’t really care enough. There’s a huge age gap and personality difference from cav and infantry. We also used to host our own 1v1s and group fighting things but honestly everyone just played for fun. The only real drama was probably with Les and banter between who was best which doesn’t even matter cause it’s not like many people played.
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No doubt comp regs are more toxic, but that hasn't stopped them from actually cultivating a competitive scene. I can't tell you why cav didn't develop a real comp scene, but without it it's not worth putting cav regs as a competitive category now is it
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: fireboy on January 20, 2021, 11:25:18 pm
Where’s best casual regiment of the decade

1stReddit sweeps that category easily
Fireboy OP

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63e N00bs
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I’m still mad Jorge didn’t record that TNWL match that was literally a 1v17 I clutched vs siwis reg atleast u have the pic and DJ was ref lol
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Wastee on January 20, 2021, 11:37:03 pm
I shall say more later but

Yes 63e did a lot and was very good for awhile but on the other hand they were also really bad for a long time also at points

ex LG 16-2 record vs 63e (while Karth was still around also)
Ah yes you mean after the entire community boycotted the regiment because we controlled the best/only active server which held the entirety of the public player base. And then we were forced to only play against regiments that would be willing to break the boycott, meaning we had to play a mega stacked LG over and over again until we were eventually dead once Holdfast released.
Yeah get shit on nerd, it was before and after also
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Golden. on January 20, 2021, 11:45:02 pm
anything other than competitive inf is literally irrelevant as musket infantry is arguably the hardest class to master.
Honestly I feel like the best players should be able to play anything. My point is cav players usually do it all. Infantry has a difficult time fighting people with swords. There’s also more to cav than just 50/50 fights. Blocking on horseback is pretty impressive. Mounted vs dismounted, groupfighting etc.

The best player in this game also has to be the best GroupFighter. Not that you would even understand what that is  :)
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Yoop on January 20, 2021, 11:47:25 pm
@Theo, Yeah was definitely just talking to the wrong people. There’s was definitely a big cav group it just wasn’t really as loud or big as infantry. Like I said, the personalities were really different. Cav players are a lot more mature and weren’t as toxic. They genuinely liked playing and yeah there was banter but it never got personal.

I think many people miss the point I’m making of infantry players can really only play with muskets Bring out the swords and they do even worse. Look at LIR who can play everything despite being a mostly casual skirm reg. Nr9 isn’t the best, but Getty has always had solid numbers and they play everything as well. 1LH/33rd/2FA was mostly a casual group who played in league 1 of whatever NWL  and played pretty well against some “top skilled” regiments. It’s just silly that a lot of these lists are the same people who literally can’t play anything else.

Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Golden. on January 20, 2021, 11:56:38 pm
First of all forget the NA 20 man community. Take a look at the entire EU comp scene both regimental and group fighting based which has been running since the beginning of the game spanning thousands of players, ran tournaments cross module with €1000 prize pools and a fully running online match making system.

If we are going to include Cavalry then Shadey wins hands down but you probably don't even know who that is. "The best player" Should refer to the most skilled with the weapons in the game at deffeating his opponents, the best weapon in the game is the musket the best player with the musket is the best player.

You also have clearly never seen a sword + inf tournament. There have been many sword and bayonet tournaments, i've won about 5 myself we have had the top Native players playing as sword in these tournaments, Gibby, Maximou, Lapache etc I have beaten some of the top native with my musket and you want to talk about your 2 man na cav reg as if its relevant in this decade debate???

We've also had a Inf + Cav tournament with the top Cav from EU playing in at the time so if you want to count that sure I'm happy since I won that too  :D
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Theodin on January 21, 2021, 12:00:14 am
well it would have been nice to have some comp connected cav players like yourself yooper to help integrate the communities but no one ever tried
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Fartknocker on January 21, 2021, 12:05:58 am
I shall say more later but

Yes 63e did a lot and was very good for awhile but on the other hand they were also really bad for a long time also at points

ex LG 16-2 record vs 63e (while Karth was still around also)
Ah yes you mean after the entire community boycotted the regiment because we controlled the best/only active server which held the entirety of the public player base. And then we were forced to only play against regiments that would be willing to break the boycott, meaning we had to play a mega stacked LG over and over again until we were eventually dead once Holdfast released.
Yeah get shit on nerd, it was before and after also
Haven’t seen any other regiment get boycotted because of how much they ran the game 🤷🏻‍♂️
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Yoop on January 21, 2021, 12:15:04 am
well it would have been nice to have some comp connected cav players like yourself yooper to help integrate the communities but no one ever tried

God only knows my son will be playing this game in a few years since this game won’t die already. And I’m sure the lists will still be the same lol
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: |Viper| on January 21, 2021, 12:15:29 am
I shall say more later but

Yes 63e did a lot and was very good for awhile but on the other hand they were also really bad for a long time also at points

ex LG 16-2 record vs 63e (while Karth was still around also)
Ah yes you mean after the entire community boycotted the regiment because we controlled the best/only active server which held the entirety of the public player base. And then we were forced to only play against regiments that would be willing to break the boycott, meaning we had to play a mega stacked LG over and over again until we were eventually dead once Holdfast released.
Yeah get shit on nerd, it was before and after also
Haven’t seen any other regiment get boycotted because of how much they ran the game 🤷🏻‍♂️
The best, biggest, and most strategic monopoly of all-time. 63e_NA_Groupfighting was lit though.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Stroke0fd34th on January 21, 2021, 12:44:41 am
3eVolt is a top 5 NA regiment all time or top 3 (debatable), but its a joke to say it was the best during the decade. 3e was always on 12th's and 63e's shadow. Those 2 regiments had to disband to finally achieve something. (2012-2015?). I could be wrong, havent played anything competetive after 2015.

I agree AsianP (duel/gf)/Tammo(duel) as the best player of the decade.
Russian indeed is the best player after 2016.

Or just start bringing "palmares" of all regiments, and make a real comparison.

3eVolt literally dismantled 63e in NANWL S6. Yes it spent 1.5 years in 12ths shadow, and if it was a best of 2012-15, you'd have a point, but with the games entire history in consideration you're way off.

Jackie is overall best pre-2016, AsianP was overall best post-2016.
Putting Tammo as best duelist of the decade is bad cap.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Kore on January 21, 2021, 12:53:29 am
anything other than competitive inf is literally irrelevant as musket infantry is arguably the hardest class to master.
Honestly I feel like the best players should be able to play anything. My point is cav players usually do it all. Infantry has a difficult time fighting people with swords. There’s also more to cav than just 50/50 fights. Blocking on horseback is pretty impressive. Mounted vs dismounted, groupfighting etc.

I can do all you mentioned and I'm an inf main  8)
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: BabyJesus on January 21, 2021, 01:26:19 am
3eVolt is a top 5 NA regiment all time or top 3 (debatable), but its a joke to say it was the best during the decade. 3e was always on 12th's and 63e's shadow. Those 2 regiments had to disband to finally achieve something. (2012-2015?). I could be wrong, havent played anything competetive after 2015.

I agree AsianP (duel/gf)/Tammo(duel) as the best player of the decade.
Russian indeed is the best player after 2016.

Or just start bringing "palmares" of all regiments, and make a real comparison.

3eVolt literally dismantled 63e in NANWL S6. Yes it spent 1.5 years in 12ths shadow, and if it was a best of 2012-15, you'd have a point, but with the games entire history in consideration you're way off.

Jackie is overall best pre-2016, AsianP was overall best post-2016.
Putting Tammo as best duelist of the decade is bad cap.
3e tied the 63e in the regular season and actually would have lost if there wernt playoffs

And I’m pretty sure the 71st were still the best regiment at the time. We just missed the sign up date
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Zzehth on January 21, 2021, 01:27:19 am
3eVolt is a top 5 NA regiment all time or top 3 (debatable), but its a joke to say it was the best during the decade. 3e was always on 12th's and 63e's shadow. Those 2 regiments had to disband to finally achieve something. (2012-2015?). I could be wrong, havent played anything competetive after 2015.

I agree AsianP (duel/gf)/Tammo(duel) as the best player of the decade.
Russian indeed is the best player after 2016.

Or just start bringing "palmares" of all regiments, and make a real comparison.

3eVolt literally dismantled 63e in NANWL S6. Yes it spent 1.5 years in 12ths shadow, and if it was a best of 2012-15, you'd have a point, but with the games entire history in consideration you're way off.


Competition was huge back then (regs, tournaments, players, forum activity, etc.)

The only reason I put the 63e as the greatest (doesnt matter if they disbanded in 2016?) is that they had a shitty roster and still managed to have success (NWL 1-4)
2x NWL Champions (almost got their 3rd, 71st got it)
Top 2 during 6 seasons (in a row)
2x GF champions
1x runner up (1st NA reg tournament) - https://challonge.com/ticohasbigpenis
3eVolt - https://challonge.com/3gf


The biggest 3e achievement is that they were able to beat the 12th, 2 times.



Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Theodin on January 21, 2021, 01:34:54 am
3eVolt is a top 5 NA regiment all time or top 3 (debatable), but its a joke to say it was the best during the decade. 3e was always on 12th's and 63e's shadow. Those 2 regiments had to disband to finally achieve something. (2012-2015?). I could be wrong, havent played anything competetive after 2015.

I agree AsianP (duel/gf)/Tammo(duel) as the best player of the decade.
Russian indeed is the best player after 2016.

Or just start bringing "palmares" of all regiments, and make a real comparison.

3eVolt literally dismantled 63e in NANWL S6. Yes it spent 1.5 years in 12ths shadow, and if it was a best of 2012-15, you'd have a point, but with the games entire history in consideration you're way off.

Jackie is overall best pre-2016, AsianP was overall best post-2016.
Putting Tammo as best duelist of the decade is bad cap.
3e tied the 63e in the regular season and actually would have lost if there wernt playoffs

And I’m pretty sure the 71st were still the best regiment at the time. We just missed the sign up date
71st would have had that NANWL. We beat the 3e and 63e consistently during the league period, but certain individuals just didn't want us in
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Phailur on January 21, 2021, 01:36:18 am
shouldnt this be renamed to NW NA Decade Awards?

either way CLEARLY Sanitarium was and is the best player ever and MM was better thanks for coming to my TED talk

i also nominate sztinman
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Bear on January 21, 2021, 01:41:48 am
well it would have been nice to have some comp connected cav players like yourself yooper to help integrate the communities but no one ever tried

God only knows my son will be playing this game in a few years since this game won’t die already. And I’m sure the lists will still be the same lol
What son? The one you aborted years ago? Yeah he'll be the best player to come out the grave LMAO
Nope the actual son we currently have. NW made life. Maybe you'll get one eventually
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: |Viper| on January 21, 2021, 01:46:46 am
well it would have been nice to have some comp connected cav players like yourself yooper to help integrate the communities but no one ever tried

God only knows my son will be playing this game in a few years since this game won’t die already. And I’m sure the lists will still be the same lol
What son? The one you aborted years ago? Yeah he'll be the best player to come out the grave LMAO
Nope the actual son we currently have. NW made life. Maybe you'll get one eventually
I hope you and the hobo get along good at the Christmas gatherings.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Bear on January 21, 2021, 01:52:39 am
well it would have been nice to have some comp connected cav players like yourself yooper to help integrate the communities but no one ever tried

God only knows my son will be playing this game in a few years since this game won’t die already. And I’m sure the lists will still be the same lol
What son? The one you aborted years ago? Yeah he'll be the best player to come out the grave LMAO
Nope the actual son we currently have. NW made life. Maybe you'll get one eventually
I hope you and the hobo get along good at the Christmas gatherings.
Life must be difficult when you need constant validation on the internet on a virtually dead game getting awards for all playing the same unit with the same stats and same weapon reach and speed that you cant even think of new jokes
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Kristine on January 21, 2021, 01:59:53 am
shouldnt this be renamed to NW NA Decade Awards?

either way CLEARLY Sanitarium was and is the best player ever and MM was better thanks for coming to my TED talk

i also nominate sztinman
There's a seperate EU section... if you actually looked at the nomination form
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Eamon on January 21, 2021, 02:40:53 am
well it would have been nice to have some comp connected cav players like yourself yooper to help integrate the communities but no one ever tried

God only knows my son will be playing this game in a few years since this game won’t die already. And I’m sure the lists will still be the same lol
What son? The one you aborted years ago? Yeah he'll be the best player to come out the grave LMAO
Nope the actual son we currently have. NW made life. Maybe you'll get one eventually
I hope you and the hobo get along good at the Christmas gatherings.
Life must be difficult when you need constant validation on the internet on a virtually dead game getting awards for all playing the same unit with the same stats and same weapon reach and speed that you cant even think of new jokes

Why is this super toxic
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Stroke0fd34th on January 21, 2021, 02:58:07 am
3eVolt is a top 5 NA regiment all time or top 3 (debatable), but its a joke to say it was the best during the decade. 3e was always on 12th's and 63e's shadow. Those 2 regiments had to disband to finally achieve something. (2012-2015?). I could be wrong, havent played anything competetive after 2015.

I agree AsianP (duel/gf)/Tammo(duel) as the best player of the decade.
Russian indeed is the best player after 2016.

Or just start bringing "palmares" of all regiments, and make a real comparison.

3eVolt literally dismantled 63e in NANWL S6. Yes it spent 1.5 years in 12ths shadow, and if it was a best of 2012-15, you'd have a point, but with the games entire history in consideration you're way off.


Competition was huge back then (regs, tournaments, players, forum activity, etc.)

The only reason I put the 63e as the greatest (doesnt matter if they disbanded in 2016?) is that they had a shitty roster and still managed to have success (NWL 1-4)
2x NWL Champions (almost got their 3rd, 71st got it)
Top 2 during 6 seasons (in a row)
2x GF champions
1x runner up (1st NA reg tournament) - https://challonge.com/ticohasbigpenis
3eVolt - https://challonge.com/3gf


The biggest 3e achievement is that they were able to beat the 12th, 2 times.

3eVolt has
1x NANWL 1st place
2x RGL 1st place
1x NWGL 1st place
2x NANWL 2nd place
1x NAPL 2nd place
1x TNWL 3rd place

don't tell me 3e's biggest achievement was beating the 12th twice.

It's not that 63e disbanded in 2016, it's that after they got dismantled by 3eVolt in NANWL's playoffs they became shit and sad until they went over to Holdfast cause they couldn't win in NW anymore.

This isn't to discredit 63e, they were an amazing regiment, they accomplished a lot and their longevity is very impressive, and if the 63e had stayed around in NW and even been a top 5 regiment past 2016 I would agree with them being the best regiment of the decade.

3eVolt is a top 5 NA regiment all time or top 3 (debatable), but its a joke to say it was the best during the decade. 3e was always on 12th's and 63e's shadow. Those 2 regiments had to disband to finally achieve something. (2012-2015?). I could be wrong, havent played anything competetive after 2015.

I agree AsianP (duel/gf)/Tammo(duel) as the best player of the decade.
Russian indeed is the best player after 2016.

Or just start bringing "palmares" of all regiments, and make a real comparison.

3eVolt literally dismantled 63e in NANWL S6. Yes it spent 1.5 years in 12ths shadow, and if it was a best of 2012-15, you'd have a point, but with the games entire history in consideration you're way off.

Jackie is overall best pre-2016, AsianP was overall best post-2016.
Putting Tammo as best duelist of the decade is bad cap.
3e tied the 63e in the regular season and actually would have lost if there wernt playoffs

And I’m pretty sure the 71st were still the best regiment at the time. We just missed the sign up date
71st would have had that NANWL. We beat the 3e and 63e consistently during the league period, but certain individuals just didn't want us in

Yes, but there were playoffs, and 63e got dismantled in the finals. I wouldn't really say 71st was the best regiment at the time. Going by 71st's record you guys were 1-1 against 3eVolt, 1-1 against 45e, 1-1 against 15thCC and 2-3 against 4th/98th during that time.

Not saying you guys wouldn't have had a chance, and I still hate that you guys weren't in S6, but that #1 spot was very contested during that time.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: John Price on January 21, 2021, 11:24:54 am
These debates are pointless until you guys actually grab a list of all the achievements that regiments got so it can be weighed up accurately.

I wouldnt even mind calling 63e the reg of the decade for NA at least because they literally achieved everything lol, but if you are going off competitive criteria mostly then it shouldn't be taking that #1 spot. 3e still achieved more and also shined across more era's of NW.

I mean the 3 of us were actually there playing with 12th and 3e back in the day, I would agree we were still in your shadow despite giving you your only losses, but to say that it was so incredibly dominant that 3e achieved nothing more than being yours bitch then you are waaay off. I remember those LB's being close everytime. Good memories.

71st was a cool regiment, tenured that spent a ton of time working to achieve those W's, but they still took a while to get there then it didn't last that long if we are being real. But you were dominant for a while and nobody can deny that.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: bobertini on January 21, 2021, 12:04:59 pm
I think there should be a special award for the regs that haven't disbanded like 77y or 33rd etc
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: maskmanmarks on January 21, 2021, 12:08:10 pm
I think there should be a special award for the regs that haven't disbanded like 77y or 33rd etc

Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: DarkTemplar on January 21, 2021, 01:37:55 pm
I think there should be a special award for the regs that haven't disbanded like 77y or 33rd etc
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: John Price on January 21, 2021, 02:31:48 pm
Longevity award, there deffo should be.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Fartknocker on January 21, 2021, 03:15:54 pm
The 63e did the most with the least. And still achieved more than 99.9% of any regiments. And did it for years.

And no the reason the 63e went to Holdfast wasn’t because we kept getting smacked. It was cause we thought Holdfast would replace NW and had a whole new player base to tap into and get members from (like everyone else thought at the time). We were still doing groupfights and 1v1s even after Holdfast came out for a couple months until we moved fully to Holdfast. Even then I convinced Zen to come back to NW and I got the 45e/Nr4 to join too. We actually had a somewhat competitive lineup for a while.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Windflower on January 21, 2021, 05:16:07 pm
The 63e did the most with the least. And still achieved more than 99.9% of any regiments. And did it for years.

And no the reason the 63e went to Holdfast wasn’t because we kept getting smacked. It was cause we thought Holdfast would replace NW and had a whole new player base to tap into and get members from (like everyone else thought at the time). We were still doing groupfights and 1v1s even after Holdfast came out for a couple months until we moved fully to Holdfast. Even then I convinced Zen to come back to NW and I got the 45e/Nr4 to join too. We actually had a somewhat competitive lineup for a while.
Yeah I don't think having a shaky final year with Karth really changes anything about their legacy... they competed at the top for so long with much weaker players and if they weren't the best at the time they were not far behind at all for 2nd best (besides maybe 2013 where the 12th and 3e were better), their ability to work cohesively as a singular unit in a competetive environment has been unparallelled.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Stroke0fd34th on January 21, 2021, 06:12:47 pm
The 63e did the most with the least. And still achieved more than 99.9% of any regiments. And did it for years.

And no the reason the 63e went to Holdfast wasn’t because we kept getting smacked. It was cause we thought Holdfast would replace NW and had a whole new player base to tap into and get members from (like everyone else thought at the time). We were still doing groupfights and 1v1s even after Holdfast came out for a couple months until we moved fully to Holdfast. Even then I convinced Zen to come back to NW and I got the 45e/Nr4 to join too. We actually had a somewhat competitive lineup for a while.

I mean, all I remember is 63e going to Holdfast then it came back to NW, got crushed a few times and then left for good.


The 63e did the most with the least. And still achieved more than 99.9% of any regiments. And did it for years.

And no the reason the 63e went to Holdfast wasn’t because we kept getting smacked. It was cause we thought Holdfast would replace NW and had a whole new player base to tap into and get members from (like everyone else thought at the time). We were still doing groupfights and 1v1s even after Holdfast came out for a couple months until we moved fully to Holdfast. Even then I convinced Zen to come back to NW and I got the 45e/Nr4 to join too. We actually had a somewhat competitive lineup for a while.
Yeah I don't think having a shaky final year with Karth really changes anything about their legacy... they competed at the top for so long with much weaker players and if they weren't the best at the time they were not far behind at all for 2nd best (besides maybe 2013 where the 12th and 3e were better), their ability to work cohesively as a singular unit in a competetive environment has been unparallelled.

Yes, 63e was the best regiment/2nd best regiment of 2014-2015, between them and 71st. And was a top 5 regiment of 2016.

3eVolt was the 2nd best regiment of 2013, was a top 5 regiment in 2015, best of 2016, and traded off being 1st/2nd with LG & 6te from 2017-2020.
It's really comparing 3 years of competing to 6, which is my point. If you're talking about a *decade*, 3eVolts the only regiment that's had a competitive impact for the better part of a decade. If 63e had not gone to Holdfast, and continued to be an actual presence in NANW comp, then sure, I could see them having a case.
Leaving doesn't hurt their legacy as a regiment, it's still a top 3 all-time regiment, I just can't understand how it would be considered the best regiment of the decade, when it competed for 3/8 years of NW, as opposed to 3eVolt who competed for 6/8 years.

Imo top 5 for the decade should really be
3eVolt
63e
LG
71st
12th
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Rikkert on January 21, 2021, 06:32:42 pm
All the EU's should need is here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wF6-_XTwtp7xZio7wyTqGlzoMlrbrkCqQ2XMkYCz-LY/edit#gid=1622017021
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Vegi. on January 21, 2021, 06:34:42 pm
cool
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on January 21, 2021, 06:50:41 pm
All the EU's should need is here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wF6-_XTwtp7xZio7wyTqGlzoMlrbrkCqQ2XMkYCz-LY/edit#gid=1622017021

Read this. Bit confused.

15thYR:

Golds 9
Silvers 5
Total Top 2: 16

Should that be 14 or am I looking at the wrong thing?

Nice spreadsheet though. Respectable.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Vegi. on January 21, 2021, 06:56:02 pm
If this is true, then Rikkert is overrating his own regiment smh.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Windflower on January 21, 2021, 07:00:04 pm
The 63e did the most with the least. And still achieved more than 99.9% of any regiments. And did it for years.

And no the reason the 63e went to Holdfast wasn’t because we kept getting smacked. It was cause we thought Holdfast would replace NW and had a whole new player base to tap into and get members from (like everyone else thought at the time). We were still doing groupfights and 1v1s even after Holdfast came out for a couple months until we moved fully to Holdfast. Even then I convinced Zen to come back to NW and I got the 45e/Nr4 to join too. We actually had a somewhat competitive lineup for a while.
Yeah I don't think having a shaky final year with Karth really changes anything about their legacy... they competed at the top for so long with much weaker players and if they weren't the best at the time they were not far behind at all for 2nd best (besides maybe 2013 where the 12th and 3e were better), their ability to work cohesively as a singular unit in a competetive environment has been unparallelled.

Yes, 63e was the best regiment/2nd best regiment of 2014-2015, between them and 71st. And was a top 5 regiment of 2016.

3eVolt was the 2nd best regiment of 2013, was a top 5 regiment in 2015, best of 2016, and traded off being 1st/2nd with LG & 6te from 2017-2020.
It's really comparing 3 years of competing to 6, which is my point. If you're talking about a *decade*, 3eVolts the only regiment that's had a competitive impact for the better part of a decade. If 63e had not gone to Holdfast, and continued to be an actual presence in NANW comp, then sure, I could see them having a case.
Leaving doesn't hurt their legacy as a regiment, it's still a top 3 all-time regiment, I just can't understand how it would be considered the best regiment of the decade, when it competed for 3/8 years of NW, as opposed to 3eVolt who competed for 6/8 years.

Imo top 5 for the decade should really be
3eVolt
63e
LG
71st
12th
Yeah, you have a good point if you're measuring in years.. it could also be weighed on how much you value the tournament that each regiment won depending on what you value more. For example would you value the 63e's second place in League 1 to the 71st more than the 3e's NWGL win in whichever year it was where the competition was lackluster? I mean yeah the 3e and LG were top regiments of all time but if they're the only two regiments competing against each other than it just seems not as impactful no matter the size of the rivalry, I also don't think it's fair to count reformations under different names the same regiment but that's just imo. It's fine if you value the longevity in the competitive scene the most too it's all opinionated really there's no definite way of saying it.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Rikkert on January 21, 2021, 07:16:15 pm
All the EU's should need is here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wF6-_XTwtp7xZio7wyTqGlzoMlrbrkCqQ2XMkYCz-LY/edit#gid=1622017021

Read this. Bit confused.

15thYR:

Golds 9
Silvers 5
Total Top 2: 16

Should that be 14 or am I looking at the wrong thing?

Nice spreadsheet though. Respectable.
ye probs cuz I copied it from the other spreadsheet which was never double checked. oopsie. Tbf that tab was never used for any list anyways so it is just for flair.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: |Viper| on January 21, 2021, 07:50:30 pm
@Godfreid So are you saying the 3eVolt was better than the 9y? Because obviously the 12th is #1
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Fartknocker on January 21, 2021, 08:13:42 pm
The 63e was the best regiment in the most competitive era and sustained that level of success for multiple years in the best competitions in the game. 63e also maintained a constant flow of new players and even today a majority of players were once in the 63e. Their impact on the game is 100x more than any other regiment. That’s the main thing to me that sets them apart from the rest.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 21, 2021, 09:01:46 pm
I think there should be a special award for the regs that haven't disbanded like 77y or 33rd etc
Well since that’s not subjective, if you can find the top 3/5 longest lived regiments I’ll include them all as a special prize
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: John Price on January 21, 2021, 09:05:21 pm
77y, 33rd and 18e.

There you go, done ::)
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 21, 2021, 09:06:11 pm
77y, 33rd and 18e.

There you go, done ::)
Ah I see we are capping already
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Kristine on January 21, 2021, 09:28:59 pm
77y, 33rd and 18e.

There you go, done ::)
(https://i.imgur.com/GgIktOW.jpg)
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Wastee on January 21, 2021, 09:40:44 pm
Did the 3e reform at all after NAPL?
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: bobertini on January 21, 2021, 09:42:09 pm
77y, 33rd and 18e.

There you go, done ::)

Fairly sure 18e disbanded about 200 times if not renamed xd
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Glenn on January 21, 2021, 09:51:40 pm
@Godfreid So are you saying the 3eVolt was better than the 9y? Because obviously the 12th is #1

The LG will forever be the best regiment of all-time in NA.

Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: John Price on January 21, 2021, 10:04:43 pm
77y, 33rd and 18e.

There you go, done ::)

Fairly sure 18e disbanded about 200 times if not renamed xd
As long as Movement still gets the #1 disbander reward idgaf xD
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: fireboy on January 22, 2021, 12:27:00 am
I think there should be a special award for the regs that haven't disbanded like 77y or 33rd etc
Well since that’s not subjective, if you can find the top 3/5 longest lived regiments I’ll include them all as a special prize

For the NA side probably 1stRddt, LIR and eh cant really think of a 3rd
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Glenn on January 22, 2021, 12:36:23 am
I think there should be a special award for the regs that haven't disbanded like 77y or 33rd etc
Well since that’s not subjective, if you can find the top 3/5 longest lived regiments I’ll include them all as a special prize

For the NA side probably 1stRddt, LIR and eh cant really think of a 3rd

Maybe the 87th
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: ~NickCole~ on January 22, 2021, 12:46:59 am
87th been around the longest I believe.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Runepkyz on January 22, 2021, 12:47:37 am
I think there should be a special award for the regs that haven't disbanded like 77y or 33rd etc
Well since that’s not subjective, if you can find the top 3/5 longest lived regiments I’ll include them all as a special prize

For the NA side probably 1stRddt, LIR and eh cant really think of a 3rd

Maybe the 87th
USMC lived for a long time if you include that other reg that was basically just a name change  :-X.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: JollyCanadian on January 22, 2021, 01:21:45 am
I think there should be a special award for the regs that haven't disbanded like 77y or 33rd etc
Well since that’s not subjective, if you can find the top 3/5 longest lived regiments I’ll include them all as a special prize

For the NA side probably 1stRddt, LIR and eh cant really think of a 3rd

Maybe the 87th
USMC lived for a long time if you include that other reg that was basically just a name change  :-X.
Nov 2012-Sept 2017 (they formed the 42nd North Carolina in 2012 and USMC in august of 2013)
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Wastee on January 22, 2021, 01:57:28 am
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I think there should be a special award for the regs that haven't disbanded like 77y or 33rd etc
Well since that’s not subjective, if you can find the top 3/5 longest lived regiments I’ll include them all as a special prize

For the NA side probably 1stRddt, LIR and eh cant really think of a 3rd

Maybe the 87th
USMC lived for a long time if you include that other reg that was basically just a name change  :-X.
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Nov 2012-Sept 2017 (they formed the 42nd North Carolina in 2012 and USMC in august of 2013)
did someone say 42nd NC

I miss jdf
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Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Xethos on January 22, 2021, 02:23:42 am
As far as longest tenured NA regiments, go . . .

1stRddt and 87th are MM regiments (well, the reddits were a brigade that just sort of just acts like a regiment now to deal with lower numbers) that are still in NW. The 87th left briefly for Holdfast and then came back, but they never disbanded. Neither of them have changed their name once to my knowledge, nor have they taken extended hiatuses from linebattle games.

There are several regiments that formed in MM or NW that never disbanded, but moved to other games and are still functioning, like the 1stEPI and the 33rd. I wouldn't count this, except that I want to take every opportunity to remind people that the 1stEPI existed, and that the NA community largely exists because of them and 5arge.

I still think of the LIR as a new gen regiment, but they formed in late 2014, so they're six years old now. Again, no name changes or hiatuses. The Nr9 formed a few months earlier, although they spend more time in Holdfast than NW now and had a month or two of strictly Holdfast.

There's the RKR, they've been around since 2012 and play in four regions. They did take a several-month vacation some years back and had a rename, for what that's worth.

Special mention to the 00th. They're not operating currently in this dimension, but I don't have hard data on what Thundersnow's space-time manipulation did to their length of time as a regiment.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: |Viper| on January 22, 2021, 04:48:22 am
@Godfreid So are you saying the 3eVolt was better than the 9y? Because obviously the 12th is #1

The LG will forever be the best regiment of all-time in NA.
Sorry, number 1 of 2013.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: David_Schrein on January 22, 2021, 05:08:52 am
77y, 33rd and 18e.

There you go, done ::)

Fairly sure 18e disbanded about 200 times if not renamed xd
As long as Movement still gets the #1 disbander reward idgaf xD
disbanded ur reg from this rgl season
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Theodin on January 22, 2021, 05:28:45 am
The 21st has been around for 6 years according to Alexander!
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Stroke0fd34th on January 22, 2021, 07:35:34 am
The 63e did the most with the least. And still achieved more than 99.9% of any regiments. And did it for years.

And no the reason the 63e went to Holdfast wasn’t because we kept getting smacked. It was cause we thought Holdfast would replace NW and had a whole new player base to tap into and get members from (like everyone else thought at the time). We were still doing groupfights and 1v1s even after Holdfast came out for a couple months until we moved fully to Holdfast. Even then I convinced Zen to come back to NW and I got the 45e/Nr4 to join too. We actually had a somewhat competitive lineup for a while.
Yeah I don't think having a shaky final year with Karth really changes anything about their legacy... they competed at the top for so long with much weaker players and if they weren't the best at the time they were not far behind at all for 2nd best (besides maybe 2013 where the 12th and 3e were better), their ability to work cohesively as a singular unit in a competetive environment has been unparallelled.

Yes, 63e was the best regiment/2nd best regiment of 2014-2015, between them and 71st. And was a top 5 regiment of 2016.

3eVolt was the 2nd best regiment of 2013, was a top 5 regiment in 2015, best of 2016, and traded off being 1st/2nd with LG & 6te from 2017-2020.
It's really comparing 3 years of competing to 6, which is my point. If you're talking about a *decade*, 3eVolts the only regiment that's had a competitive impact for the better part of a decade. If 63e had not gone to Holdfast, and continued to be an actual presence in NANW comp, then sure, I could see them having a case.
Leaving doesn't hurt their legacy as a regiment, it's still a top 3 all-time regiment, I just can't understand how it would be considered the best regiment of the decade, when it competed for 3/8 years of NW, as opposed to 3eVolt who competed for 6/8 years.

Imo top 5 for the decade should really be
3eVolt
63e
LG
71st
12th
Yeah, you have a good point if you're measuring in years.. it could also be weighed on how much you value the tournament that each regiment won depending on what you value more. For example would you value the 63e's second place in League 1 to the 71st more than the 3e's NWGL win in whichever year it was where the competition was lackluster? I mean yeah the 3e and LG were top regiments of all time but if they're the only two regiments competing against each other than it just seems not as impactful no matter the size of the rivalry, I also don't think it's fair to count reformations under different names the same regiment but that's just imo. It's fine if you value the longevity in the competitive scene the most too it's all opinionated really there's no definite way of saying it.

You mean the year of NANWL where 63e and 71st basically 7-3'd - 10-0'd every other regiment in League 1 except each other who they tied? Does that sound familiar?
No, I wouldn't value 63e's 2nd place in League 1 over 3e's NWGL win because saying competition was better in 1 year and lackluster in another is a disingenuous argument to make because what happened in that year of NANWL is not an anomaly, it's a standard, as I've said about NANW comp before, you usually have a very clear #1 & #2, sometimes a #3, and the competition is really between those 2, sometimes 3 regiments. So just because there are fewer shitter regiments for those 2-3 main competitors to obliterate, doesn't really make that competitive year less valuable.

The only time I would really subscribe to that idea is if #2 was a highly contested spot, and #1 was just basically in a tier of its own.

@Godfreid So are you saying the 3eVolt was better than the 9y? Because obviously the 12th is #1

Yes, overall as a regiment, they were better than 9y in 2013. Not that 9y didn't have the ability to beat 3eVolt in a 1v1, but 3eVolt really was the only regiment to give 12th their 2 losses, which 9y was never able to do. If 9y had bothered to be an actual regiment with actual leading, they could have been potential #2 or maybe even #1, because they did have the 2nd, debatably the best melee roster. But 9y just never cared that much, which is why as a super sweaty back then I didn't stay in there very long.


not at vetro, just because I brought it up and it always seems to cause someone to come out and be like "yOu WeRe nEveR iN 9y" or other attempts at clownery
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Just so we can get that out of the way.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Pinoy12 on January 22, 2021, 08:06:18 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtjJ1UZgWi8
this brings back memories man  :'(
But ye, Godfreid hit it right on I think. On a decade criteria 3e definitely blows 9y out of the water. 9y was good and everything but lets face it, we never really proved ourselves in a comp setting aside from a few 1v1's here and there. I remember the times we did fight the 12th we'd get beat, it was really competitive though from what I remember. 9y didn't really care about comp shit all that much. We just all kinda played for fun and stomped the fuck out of pubs in lb's and US_1.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Theodin on January 22, 2021, 01:58:11 pm
Back when Dallas servers were the norm and Canadians struggled to get 55 or less ping
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Windflower on January 22, 2021, 05:30:09 pm
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The 63e did the most with the least. And still achieved more than 99.9% of any regiments. And did it for years.

And no the reason the 63e went to Holdfast wasn’t because we kept getting smacked. It was cause we thought Holdfast would replace NW and had a whole new player base to tap into and get members from (like everyone else thought at the time). We were still doing groupfights and 1v1s even after Holdfast came out for a couple months until we moved fully to Holdfast. Even then I convinced Zen to come back to NW and I got the 45e/Nr4 to join too. We actually had a somewhat competitive lineup for a while.
Yeah I don't think having a shaky final year with Karth really changes anything about their legacy... they competed at the top for so long with much weaker players and if they weren't the best at the time they were not far behind at all for 2nd best (besides maybe 2013 where the 12th and 3e were better), their ability to work cohesively as a singular unit in a competetive environment has been unparallelled.

Yes, 63e was the best regiment/2nd best regiment of 2014-2015, between them and 71st. And was a top 5 regiment of 2016.

3eVolt was the 2nd best regiment of 2013, was a top 5 regiment in 2015, best of 2016, and traded off being 1st/2nd with LG & 6te from 2017-2020.
It's really comparing 3 years of competing to 6, which is my point. If you're talking about a *decade*, 3eVolts the only regiment that's had a competitive impact for the better part of a decade. If 63e had not gone to Holdfast, and continued to be an actual presence in NANW comp, then sure, I could see them having a case.
Leaving doesn't hurt their legacy as a regiment, it's still a top 3 all-time regiment, I just can't understand how it would be considered the best regiment of the decade, when it competed for 3/8 years of NW, as opposed to 3eVolt who competed for 6/8 years.

Imo top 5 for the decade should really be
3eVolt
63e
LG
71st
12th
Yeah, you have a good point if you're measuring in years.. it could also be weighed on how much you value the tournament that each regiment won depending on what you value more. For example would you value the 63e's second place in League 1 to the 71st more than the 3e's NWGL win in whichever year it was where the competition was lackluster? I mean yeah the 3e and LG were top regiments of all time but if they're the only two regiments competing against each other than it just seems not as impactful no matter the size of the rivalry, I also don't think it's fair to count reformations under different names the same regiment but that's just imo. It's fine if you value the longevity in the competitive scene the most too it's all opinionated really there's no definite way of saying it.
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You mean the year of NANWL where 63e and 71st basically 7-3'd - 10-0'd every other regiment in League 1 except each other who they tied? Does that sound familiar?
No, I wouldn't value 63e's 2nd place in League 1 over 3e's NWGL win because saying competition was better in 1 year and lackluster in another is a disingenuous argument to make because what happened in that year of NANWL is not an anomaly, it's a standard, as I've said about NANW comp before, you usually have a very clear #1 & #2, sometimes a #3, and the competition is really between those 2, sometimes 3 regiments. So just because there are fewer shitter regiments for those 2-3 main competitors to obliterate, doesn't really make that competitive year less valuable.

The only time I would really subscribe to that idea is if #2 was a highly contested spot, and #1 was just basically in a tier of its own.
Sure, I respect that. I would be looking more outside of the #1 and 2 spots though personally. For example, if you look here (http://bracketcloud.com/tournament/20482) in a previous season of NANWL, it shows around 5 or 6 regiments in League 1. The 63e and 71st ofc, and then we have the 18th, 58e, 1tes, and MoskovGren who dropped out somewhere during the season.

Looking at NWGL's regiments you have the 98e and LG, then your best regiments after that are probably the 15e, LIR, HRE. I would certainly say that the 63e/71st had a much harder path to victory considering the 18th (who beat the 71st during the season), and 58e (who beat the 18th during the season) were participating and were definitely given much more of a chance to win the season then the 15e and LIR ever were.

I don't think it's disingenous to say that the competition was stronger that year considering people don't really think of competitive regiments when they think of the 15e, LIR, and HRE, and that's all the 58e and 18th pretty much lived for.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Zzehth on January 22, 2021, 06:35:41 pm
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The 63e did the most with the least. And still achieved more than 99.9% of any regiments. And did it for years.

And no the reason the 63e went to Holdfast wasn’t because we kept getting smacked. It was cause we thought Holdfast would replace NW and had a whole new player base to tap into and get members from (like everyone else thought at the time). We were still doing groupfights and 1v1s even after Holdfast came out for a couple months until we moved fully to Holdfast. Even then I convinced Zen to come back to NW and I got the 45e/Nr4 to join too. We actually had a somewhat competitive lineup for a while.
Yeah I don't think having a shaky final year with Karth really changes anything about their legacy... they competed at the top for so long with much weaker players and if they weren't the best at the time they were not far behind at all for 2nd best (besides maybe 2013 where the 12th and 3e were better), their ability to work cohesively as a singular unit in a competetive environment has been unparallelled.

Yes, 63e was the best regiment/2nd best regiment of 2014-2015, between them and 71st. And was a top 5 regiment of 2016.

3eVolt was the 2nd best regiment of 2013, was a top 5 regiment in 2015, best of 2016, and traded off being 1st/2nd with LG & 6te from 2017-2020.
It's really comparing 3 years of competing to 6, which is my point. If you're talking about a *decade*, 3eVolts the only regiment that's had a competitive impact for the better part of a decade. If 63e had not gone to Holdfast, and continued to be an actual presence in NANW comp, then sure, I could see them having a case.
Leaving doesn't hurt their legacy as a regiment, it's still a top 3 all-time regiment, I just can't understand how it would be considered the best regiment of the decade, when it competed for 3/8 years of NW, as opposed to 3eVolt who competed for 6/8 years.

Imo top 5 for the decade should really be
3eVolt
63e
LG
71st
12th
Yeah, you have a good point if you're measuring in years.. it could also be weighed on how much you value the tournament that each regiment won depending on what you value more. For example would you value the 63e's second place in League 1 to the 71st more than the 3e's NWGL win in whichever year it was where the competition was lackluster? I mean yeah the 3e and LG were top regiments of all time but if they're the only two regiments competing against each other than it just seems not as impactful no matter the size of the rivalry, I also don't think it's fair to count reformations under different names the same regiment but that's just imo. It's fine if you value the longevity in the competitive scene the most too it's all opinionated really there's no definite way of saying it.
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You mean the year of NANWL where 63e and 71st basically 7-3'd - 10-0'd every other regiment in League 1 except each other who they tied? Does that sound familiar?
No, I wouldn't value 63e's 2nd place in League 1 over 3e's NWGL win because saying competition was better in 1 year and lackluster in another is a disingenuous argument to make because what happened in that year of NANWL is not an anomaly, it's a standard, as I've said about NANW comp before, you usually have a very clear #1 & #2, sometimes a #3, and the competition is really between those 2, sometimes 3 regiments. So just because there are fewer shitter regiments for those 2-3 main competitors to obliterate, doesn't really make that competitive year less valuable.

The only time I would really subscribe to that idea is if #2 was a highly contested spot, and #1 was just basically in a tier of its own.
Sure, I respect that. I would be looking more outside of the #1 and 2 spots though personally. For example, if you look here (http://bracketcloud.com/tournament/20482) in a previous season of NANWL, it shows around 5 or 6 regiments in League 1. The 63e and 71st ofc, and then we have the 18th, 58e, 1tes, and MoskovGren who dropped out somewhere during the season.

Looking at NWGL's regiments you have the 98e and LG, then your best regiments after that are probably the 15e, LIR, HRE. I would certainly say that the 63e/71st had a much harder path to victory considering the 18th (who beat the 71st during the season), and 58e (who beat the 18th during the season) were participating and were definitely given much more of a chance to win the season then the 15e and LIR ever were.

I don't think it's disingenous to say that the competition was stronger that year considering people don't really think of competitive regiments when they think of the 15e, LIR, and HRE, and that's all the 58e and 18th pretty much lived for.

Just look at this, https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=22206.msg934229#msg934229
First 4 NA NWL seasons, I didnt remember the 2te played in season 2. 2te was another 9y. Same dudes.

edit: didnt remember the 3e dropped from season 2 :/. https://challonge.com/League1NANWL

If you guys didnt vote for NA NWL as best event, you're a disgrace. The Champions League of NA.

Look at me with a sexy 44 ping. Now I get 120 :/. Damn.
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Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Wastee on January 22, 2021, 08:26:27 pm
Cytiuz’s 1v1 tournament was more official than the NWGL

Neither should count for anything but LG did go 9-2 in rounds and 3-0 in matches in it 8)
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Windflower on January 22, 2021, 08:54:13 pm
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The 63e did the most with the least. And still achieved more than 99.9% of any regiments. And did it for years.

And no the reason the 63e went to Holdfast wasn’t because we kept getting smacked. It was cause we thought Holdfast would replace NW and had a whole new player base to tap into and get members from (like everyone else thought at the time). We were still doing groupfights and 1v1s even after Holdfast came out for a couple months until we moved fully to Holdfast. Even then I convinced Zen to come back to NW and I got the 45e/Nr4 to join too. We actually had a somewhat competitive lineup for a while.
Yeah I don't think having a shaky final year with Karth really changes anything about their legacy... they competed at the top for so long with much weaker players and if they weren't the best at the time they were not far behind at all for 2nd best (besides maybe 2013 where the 12th and 3e were better), their ability to work cohesively as a singular unit in a competetive environment has been unparallelled.

Yes, 63e was the best regiment/2nd best regiment of 2014-2015, between them and 71st. And was a top 5 regiment of 2016.

3eVolt was the 2nd best regiment of 2013, was a top 5 regiment in 2015, best of 2016, and traded off being 1st/2nd with LG & 6te from 2017-2020.
It's really comparing 3 years of competing to 6, which is my point. If you're talking about a *decade*, 3eVolts the only regiment that's had a competitive impact for the better part of a decade. If 63e had not gone to Holdfast, and continued to be an actual presence in NANW comp, then sure, I could see them having a case.
Leaving doesn't hurt their legacy as a regiment, it's still a top 3 all-time regiment, I just can't understand how it would be considered the best regiment of the decade, when it competed for 3/8 years of NW, as opposed to 3eVolt who competed for 6/8 years.

Imo top 5 for the decade should really be
3eVolt
63e
LG
71st
12th
Yeah, you have a good point if you're measuring in years.. it could also be weighed on how much you value the tournament that each regiment won depending on what you value more. For example would you value the 63e's second place in League 1 to the 71st more than the 3e's NWGL win in whichever year it was where the competition was lackluster? I mean yeah the 3e and LG were top regiments of all time but if they're the only two regiments competing against each other than it just seems not as impactful no matter the size of the rivalry, I also don't think it's fair to count reformations under different names the same regiment but that's just imo. It's fine if you value the longevity in the competitive scene the most too it's all opinionated really there's no definite way of saying it.
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You mean the year of NANWL where 63e and 71st basically 7-3'd - 10-0'd every other regiment in League 1 except each other who they tied? Does that sound familiar?
No, I wouldn't value 63e's 2nd place in League 1 over 3e's NWGL win because saying competition was better in 1 year and lackluster in another is a disingenuous argument to make because what happened in that year of NANWL is not an anomaly, it's a standard, as I've said about NANW comp before, you usually have a very clear #1 & #2, sometimes a #3, and the competition is really between those 2, sometimes 3 regiments. So just because there are fewer shitter regiments for those 2-3 main competitors to obliterate, doesn't really make that competitive year less valuable.

The only time I would really subscribe to that idea is if #2 was a highly contested spot, and #1 was just basically in a tier of its own.
Sure, I respect that. I would be looking more outside of the #1 and 2 spots though personally. For example, if you look here (http://bracketcloud.com/tournament/20482) in a previous season of NANWL, it shows around 5 or 6 regiments in League 1. The 63e and 71st ofc, and then we have the 18th, 58e, 1tes, and MoskovGren who dropped out somewhere during the season.

Looking at NWGL's regiments you have the 98e and LG, then your best regiments after that are probably the 15e, LIR, HRE. I would certainly say that the 63e/71st had a much harder path to victory considering the 18th (who beat the 71st during the season), and 58e (who beat the 18th during the season) were participating and were definitely given much more of a chance to win the season then the 15e and LIR ever were.

I don't think it's disingenous to say that the competition was stronger that year considering people don't really think of competitive regiments when they think of the 15e, LIR, and HRE, and that's all the 58e and 18th pretty much lived for.

Just look at this, https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=22206.msg934229#msg934229
First 4 NA NWL seasons, I didnt remember the 2te played in season 2. 2te was another 9y. Same dudes.

edit: didnt remember the 3e dropped from season 2 :/. https://challonge.com/League1NANWL

If you guys didnt vote for NA NWL as best event, you're a disgrace. The Champions League of NA.

Look at me with a sexy 44 ping. Now I get 120 :/. Damn.
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So much history in the first 4 seasons.. and a lot that I don't remember. But as somebody who's participated in every season, I can confidently say it's the best event NA has ever had, its 9 iterations speaks for itself though tbh.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: sidney crosby on January 22, 2021, 09:12:44 pm
NANWL has been fixed since season 1 lol shittiest tournament in NW history
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Glenn on January 22, 2021, 09:18:18 pm
NW frisbee was more official than NWGL
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: RussianFury on January 22, 2021, 09:51:11 pm
NW frisbee was more official than NWGL
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: JollyCanadian on January 22, 2021, 10:10:19 pm
NW frisbee was more official than NWGL
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: DarkTemplar on January 22, 2021, 10:42:23 pm
long existing regiments founded over 5 years and still active:
77y, 33rd, DL_18tes, 15thYR, 16th, 2Lr/2Lhr

active for over 5 years but now inactive:
6te

being active for 5 years or more is were I drew the line cause it means they were, at least, existing for about half the time this game existed
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: ~NickCole~ on January 22, 2021, 11:30:50 pm
NW frisbee was more official than NWGL
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Risk_ on January 23, 2021, 02:06:50 am
Cytiuz’s 1v1 tournament was more official than the NWGL

Neither should count for anything but LG did go 9-2 in rounds and 3-0 in matches in it 8)

Oh, the irony
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Wastee on January 23, 2021, 02:54:13 am
Cytiuz’s 1v1 tournament was more official than the NWGL

Neither should count for anything but LG did go 9-2 in rounds and 3-0 in matches in it 8)

Oh, the irony
such iron
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: JollyCanadian on January 23, 2021, 06:40:54 am
15e won League 2 so it's the 2nd best regiment right?
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Stroke0fd34th on January 23, 2021, 07:26:45 am
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The 63e did the most with the least. And still achieved more than 99.9% of any regiments. And did it for years.

And no the reason the 63e went to Holdfast wasn’t because we kept getting smacked. It was cause we thought Holdfast would replace NW and had a whole new player base to tap into and get members from (like everyone else thought at the time). We were still doing groupfights and 1v1s even after Holdfast came out for a couple months until we moved fully to Holdfast. Even then I convinced Zen to come back to NW and I got the 45e/Nr4 to join too. We actually had a somewhat competitive lineup for a while.
Yeah I don't think having a shaky final year with Karth really changes anything about their legacy... they competed at the top for so long with much weaker players and if they weren't the best at the time they were not far behind at all for 2nd best (besides maybe 2013 where the 12th and 3e were better), their ability to work cohesively as a singular unit in a competetive environment has been unparallelled.

Yes, 63e was the best regiment/2nd best regiment of 2014-2015, between them and 71st. And was a top 5 regiment of 2016.

3eVolt was the 2nd best regiment of 2013, was a top 5 regiment in 2015, best of 2016, and traded off being 1st/2nd with LG & 6te from 2017-2020.
It's really comparing 3 years of competing to 6, which is my point. If you're talking about a *decade*, 3eVolts the only regiment that's had a competitive impact for the better part of a decade. If 63e had not gone to Holdfast, and continued to be an actual presence in NANW comp, then sure, I could see them having a case.
Leaving doesn't hurt their legacy as a regiment, it's still a top 3 all-time regiment, I just can't understand how it would be considered the best regiment of the decade, when it competed for 3/8 years of NW, as opposed to 3eVolt who competed for 6/8 years.

Imo top 5 for the decade should really be
3eVolt
63e
LG
71st
12th
Yeah, you have a good point if you're measuring in years.. it could also be weighed on how much you value the tournament that each regiment won depending on what you value more. For example would you value the 63e's second place in League 1 to the 71st more than the 3e's NWGL win in whichever year it was where the competition was lackluster? I mean yeah the 3e and LG were top regiments of all time but if they're the only two regiments competing against each other than it just seems not as impactful no matter the size of the rivalry, I also don't think it's fair to count reformations under different names the same regiment but that's just imo. It's fine if you value the longevity in the competitive scene the most too it's all opinionated really there's no definite way of saying it.
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You mean the year of NANWL where 63e and 71st basically 7-3'd - 10-0'd every other regiment in League 1 except each other who they tied? Does that sound familiar?
No, I wouldn't value 63e's 2nd place in League 1 over 3e's NWGL win because saying competition was better in 1 year and lackluster in another is a disingenuous argument to make because what happened in that year of NANWL is not an anomaly, it's a standard, as I've said about NANW comp before, you usually have a very clear #1 & #2, sometimes a #3, and the competition is really between those 2, sometimes 3 regiments. So just because there are fewer shitter regiments for those 2-3 main competitors to obliterate, doesn't really make that competitive year less valuable.

The only time I would really subscribe to that idea is if #2 was a highly contested spot, and #1 was just basically in a tier of its own.
Sure, I respect that. I would be looking more outside of the #1 and 2 spots though personally. For example, if you look here (http://bracketcloud.com/tournament/20482) in a previous season of NANWL, it shows around 5 or 6 regiments in League 1. The 63e and 71st ofc, and then we have the 18th, 58e, 1tes, and MoskovGren who dropped out somewhere during the season.

Looking at NWGL's regiments you have the 98e and LG, then your best regiments after that are probably the 15e, LIR, HRE. I would certainly say that the 63e/71st had a much harder path to victory considering the 18th (who beat the 71st during the season), and 58e (who beat the 18th during the season) were participating and were definitely given much more of a chance to win the season then the 15e and LIR ever were.

I don't think it's disingenous to say that the competition was stronger that year considering people don't really think of competitive regiments when they think of the 15e, LIR, and HRE, and that's all the 58e and 18th pretty much lived for.

Right, but if you look at the bracket you posted, it's exactly the description I gave for a year I wouldn't count as very strong because only the #2 spot is really being contested, and 63e that season is very clearly in a league of its own.
How can you say 63e had a harder path to victory, or that 18th/58e had a real chance at winning that season when 63e's closest matches were 3 8-2 victories? 71st had to struggle, sure, but 63e did not.


Cytiuz’s 1v1 tournament was more official than the NWGL

Neither should count for anything but LG did go 9-2 in rounds and 3-0 in matches in it 8)


Wasn't more or less official than any other 1v1 league.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF9Ub1vTeTo&ab_channel=Glenn

Certainly doesn't sound like it's being taken any less seriously than other 1v1 leagues.
And honestly, if that shouldn't count for anything, neither should IRL, or NAPL or any NANWL season past 6. Because it was literally the same regiments/level of regiments competing in those.
Let's not go picking what counts and what doesn't, cause it's going to be aids.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Wastee on January 23, 2021, 08:20:54 am
The NWGL point is Moraine literally decided that 42nd vs LG would be the finals and that the remaining like 6 weeks of the league wouldn’t happen. I think the LG did a total of 2 or 3 matches out of a scheduled 8 or something. I can get the specifics when I’m on my computer later. Not to mention Moraine decided last minute to have a sudden death 1 round OT rather than count the match a tie and move on with the season like any other league would have.

Say what you will but if LG hadn’t thrown our 4-2 lead I wouldn’t be going around flexing our NWGL win
 
I don’t think 42nd, 29y, 98e or especially 12e stuff should even count for the 3e. Sure some same people but very different regiments overall imo. I wasn’t apart of it tho so I can’t say that much. (And I still think 3e should be considered the 2nd greatest all time behind LG)

LG took all 1v1s with good regiments that seriously p much
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Stroke0fd34th on January 23, 2021, 08:37:01 am
The NWGL point is Moraine literally decided that 42nd vs LG would be the finals and that the remaining like 6 weeks of the league wouldn’t happen. I think the LG did a total of 2 or 3 matches out of a scheduled 8 or something. I can get the specifics when I’m on my computer later. Not to mention Moraine decided last minute to have a sudden death 1 round OT rather than count the match a tie and move on with the season like any other league would have.

Say what you will but if LG hadn’t thrown our 4-2 lead I wouldn’t be going around flexing our NWGL win
 
I don’t think 42nd, 29y, or 98e stuff should even count for the 3e. Sure some same people but very different regiments overall imo. I wasn’t apart of it tho so I can’t say that much. (And I still think 3e should be considered the 2nd greatest all time behind LG)

42nd and LG was the finals regardless, whoever won that match won the league. Aside from us, it was like 3 South American regiments (who dropped out), LIR, 15e, HRE, 8thKGL & 8thEPI. I don't see how playing out the rest of the weeks would have changed the outcome.
Both regiments gave it their all to the last, had you guys not thrown your 5-2 lead, or had won the OT, I wouldn't say anything about you guys counting it among your victories.

42nd/etc. was lead by me and AsianP, had the same community as 3eVolt etc. they were renames because AsianP had wanted to retire the 3eVolt name, but it wasn't different regiments. It's roster didn't vary any more than LG's did, the only difference was LG kept a consistent name. So yes, their stuff should count for the 3eVolt, because it's literally the same group/has been the same leadership, it's just different names.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Wastee on January 23, 2021, 08:49:57 am
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The NWGL point is Moraine literally decided that 42nd vs LG would be the finals and that the remaining like 6 weeks of the league wouldn’t happen. I think the LG did a total of 2 or 3 matches out of a scheduled 8 or something. I can get the specifics when I’m on my computer later. Not to mention Moraine decided last minute to have a sudden death 1 round OT rather than count the match a tie and move on with the season like any other league would have.

Say what you will but if LG hadn’t thrown our 4-2 lead I wouldn’t be going around flexing our NWGL win
 
I don’t think 42nd, 29y, or 98e stuff should even count for the 3e. Sure some same people but very different regiments overall imo. I wasn’t apart of it tho so I can’t say that much. (And I still think 3e should be considered the 2nd greatest all time behind LG)

42nd and LG was the finals regardless, whoever won that match won the league. Aside from us, it was like 3 South American regiments (who dropped out), LIR, 15e, HRE, 8thKGL & 8thEPI. I don't see how playing out the rest of the weeks would have changed the outcome.
Both regiments gave it their all to the last, had you guys not thrown your 5-2 lead, or had won the OT, I wouldn't say anything about you guys counting it among your victories.

42nd/etc. was lead by me and AsianP, had the same community as 3eVolt etc. they were renames because AsianP had wanted to retire the 3eVolt name, but it wasn't different regiments. It's roster didn't vary any more than LG's did, the only difference was LG kept a consistent name. So yes, their stuff should count for the 3eVolt, because it's literally the same group/has been the same leadership, it's just different names.
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It was the 1 rnd OT mainly. Really should’ve been tie match then go to either a playoffs where we play again or rounds ratio at the end

LG maintained the same leaders and core members throughout its life excluding this last RGL. 3e group was very similar but I’d say your rosters differed a lot more than LG. I also just value name value a lot (hence always keeping LG, it’s like the identity)

It’s fair for you to lean that way for 42nd 98e tho. 12e is really stretching it

that would mean LG had nearly a 2-1 win loss vs 3e tho so at the least give us that best of 2016 beyond award 8)

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Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Stroke0fd34th on January 23, 2021, 09:04:02 am
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The NWGL point is Moraine literally decided that 42nd vs LG would be the finals and that the remaining like 6 weeks of the league wouldn’t happen. I think the LG did a total of 2 or 3 matches out of a scheduled 8 or something. I can get the specifics when I’m on my computer later. Not to mention Moraine decided last minute to have a sudden death 1 round OT rather than count the match a tie and move on with the season like any other league would have.

Say what you will but if LG hadn’t thrown our 4-2 lead I wouldn’t be going around flexing our NWGL win
 
I don’t think 42nd, 29y, or 98e stuff should even count for the 3e. Sure some same people but very different regiments overall imo. I wasn’t apart of it tho so I can’t say that much. (And I still think 3e should be considered the 2nd greatest all time behind LG)

42nd and LG was the finals regardless, whoever won that match won the league. Aside from us, it was like 3 South American regiments (who dropped out), LIR, 15e, HRE, 8thKGL & 8thEPI. I don't see how playing out the rest of the weeks would have changed the outcome.
Both regiments gave it their all to the last, had you guys not thrown your 5-2 lead, or had won the OT, I wouldn't say anything about you guys counting it among your victories.

42nd/etc. was lead by me and AsianP, had the same community as 3eVolt etc. they were renames because AsianP had wanted to retire the 3eVolt name, but it wasn't different regiments. It's roster didn't vary any more than LG's did, the only difference was LG kept a consistent name. So yes, their stuff should count for the 3eVolt, because it's literally the same group/has been the same leadership, it's just different names.
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It was the 1 rnd OT mainly. Really should’ve been tie match then go to either a playoffs where we play again or rounds ratio at the end

LG maintained the same leaders and core members throughout its life excluding this last RGL. 3e group was very similar but I’d say your rosters differed a lot more than LG. I also just value name value a lot (hence always keeping LG, it’s like the identity)

It’s fair for you to lean that way for 42nd 98e tho. 12e is really stretching it

that would mean LG had nearly a 2-1 win loss vs 3e tho so at the least give us that best of 2016 beyond award 8)

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12e still had the same core group, it did have additions, yes, but the same core, and even old 3eVolt players, and still being led by me. They would have all been 3eVolt in name, had Asian not wanted to retire it. 3eVolt and 12e's 1v1 records are even in the same teamspeak.

I'm not going to touch that 2-1 win loss thing, cause I have no idea what you even mean by that.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 23, 2021, 09:15:02 am
So the special award will go to the 77y, 33rd, 1stRddt, and 87th. Am I missing anyone?
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: 33rdKincaid on January 23, 2021, 10:16:18 am
I think there should be a special award for the regs that haven't disbanded like 77y or 33rd etc
Well since that’s not subjective, if you can find the top 3/5 longest lived regiments I’ll include them all as a special prize
32nd have just had their 10th anniversary, 3 colonels since formation and never disbanded :)
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Rutger Müller on January 23, 2021, 04:48:53 pm
I think there should be a special award for the regs that haven't disbanded like 77y or 33rd etc
Well since that’s not subjective, if you can find the top 3/5 longest lived regiments I’ll include them all as a special prize
32nd have just had their 10th anniversary, 3 colonels since formation and never disbanded :)
32nd is based regiment
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Theodin on January 23, 2021, 05:31:47 pm
So the special award will go to the 77y, 33rd, 1stRddt, and 87th. Am I missing anyone?
21st for 6 years?
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: David_Schrein on January 23, 2021, 06:36:24 pm
I nominate babyj as worst among us player
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: RussianFury on January 23, 2021, 06:48:12 pm
I wish there was a meme video category. I would've nominated my Avengers videos.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: BabyJesus on January 23, 2021, 08:36:33 pm
I nominate babyj as worst among us player
im voting movement
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Rutger Müller on January 23, 2021, 08:51:49 pm
if the john price video isnt number 1 these awards will be even more gay than they already are
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Cazasar on January 23, 2021, 09:34:57 pm
if the john price video isnt number 1 these awards will be even more gay than they already are
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 23, 2021, 09:54:23 pm
I think there should be a special award for the regs that haven't disbanded like 77y or 33rd etc
Well since that’s not subjective, if you can find the top 3/5 longest lived regiments I’ll include them all as a special prize
32nd have just had their 10th anniversary, 3 colonels since formation and never disbanded :)
Alright anyone else?
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: John Price on January 23, 2021, 10:10:43 pm
if the john price video isnt number 1 these awards will be even more gay than they already are
purple crayon ist mein favorite
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Vegi. on January 23, 2021, 10:12:54 pm
if the john price video isnt number 1 these awards will be even more gay than they already are
purple crayon ist mein favorite
The real question is what video of John Price?
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: John Price on January 23, 2021, 10:41:09 pm
Err I think there is 2 right? But out of both of them the John Price.wmv is by far the best

Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Windflower on January 23, 2021, 11:42:37 pm
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I think there should be a special award for the regs that haven't disbanded like 77y or 33rd etc
Well since that’s not subjective, if you can find the top 3/5 longest lived regiments I’ll include them all as a special prize
32nd have just had their 10th anniversary, 3 colonels since formation and never disbanded :)
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Alright anyone else?
i'm about to have my twenty second anniversary so yeah me
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Fartknocker on January 24, 2021, 12:04:47 am
Look at these peasants squabbling over being the second greatest regiment of all time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZW944D9BGc
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Stroke0fd34th on January 24, 2021, 12:24:51 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzYgVRe80cI&ab_channel=Xenoyia
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: John Price on January 24, 2021, 12:30:44 am
Thats the one!

Good days eh Godfreid!
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Stroke0fd34th on January 24, 2021, 12:32:29 am
Thats the one!

Good days eh Godfreid!

Indeed lol
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Risk_ on January 24, 2021, 02:34:22 am
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The NWGL point is Moraine literally decided that 42nd vs LG would be the finals and that the remaining like 6 weeks of the league wouldn’t happen. I think the LG did a total of 2 or 3 matches out of a scheduled 8 or something. I can get the specifics when I’m on my computer later. Not to mention Moraine decided last minute to have a sudden death 1 round OT rather than count the match a tie and move on with the season like any other league would have.

Say what you will but if LG hadn’t thrown our 4-2 lead I wouldn’t be going around flexing our NWGL win
 
I don’t think 42nd, 29y, or 98e stuff should even count for the 3e. Sure some same people but very different regiments overall imo. I wasn’t apart of it tho so I can’t say that much. (And I still think 3e should be considered the 2nd greatest all time behind LG)

42nd and LG was the finals regardless, whoever won that match won the league. Aside from us, it was like 3 South American regiments (who dropped out), LIR, 15e, HRE, 8thKGL & 8thEPI. I don't see how playing out the rest of the weeks would have changed the outcome.
Both regiments gave it their all to the last, had you guys not thrown your 5-2 lead, or had won the OT, I wouldn't say anything about you guys counting it among your victories.

42nd/etc. was lead by me and AsianP, had the same community as 3eVolt etc. they were renames because AsianP had wanted to retire the 3eVolt name, but it wasn't different regiments. It's roster didn't vary any more than LG's did, the only difference was LG kept a consistent name. So yes, their stuff should count for the 3eVolt, because it's literally the same group/has been the same leadership, it's just different names.
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It was the 1 rnd OT mainly. Really should’ve been tie match then go to either a playoffs where we play again or rounds ratio at the end

LG maintained the same leaders and core members throughout its life excluding this last RGL. 3e group was very similar but I’d say your rosters differed a lot more than LG. I also just value name value a lot (hence always keeping LG, it’s like the identity)

It’s fair for you to lean that way for 42nd 98e tho. 12e is really stretching it

that would mean LG had nearly a 2-1 win loss vs 3e tho so at the least give us that best of 2016 beyond award 8)

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I wasn't really going to post but I just hate misinformation. That's fair to call the 98e/42nd, 29y, 1er, 12e, etc. different variations but it was pretty similar across the board. The main difference in our roster line up came after 3e changed to 91st in December of 2017. That's where we got new members (horse, mikey, goomba, jerry, to name a few) who continued to play after some old 3e players stopped.

If you really want to talk about different variations, look at the LG. before the 45e merge, completely different regiment in terms of roster; then after 45e merge, it was different. When it reformed (late 2018 i think, feel free to correct me) it was a mix along with even new players who joined it. Then some time after NWGL, 42nd members joined making it pretty different again. So many people have been in and out of the LG and for many, more than once. I have really only seen 2 consistent core/officers from the LG over it's entire existence, yourself and russian. Every one of your officers at one point or another didn't come back for the reform or just left for other regiments (Yoshie, Babyj, Theo, Hawkince, Oatmeal, Fireboy). I guess one guy who remained loyal through all of it was cluelesswill, but pretty sure he wasn't even apart of the new LGs in the past couple of years.

In terms of NWGL, you guys were trying just as much as we were and Moraine (who was in the LG) made it bo1 OT. Sure, maybe it could have been bo3 but it's his league and that's how he made it and both regiments knew it was bo1 going into it. If you had won, you would 100% be counting that right now so I find it pretty disingenuous to say it shouldn't count for us. I can understand the argument of how the past 1v1s leagues since 2017 had very little competition and it was usually came down to just 2 regiments for the eventual title. So if you want to discredit NWGL for that, then you really can't count IRL, NAPL (besides maybe S1), RGL or even NANWL (S7-S9) for the same reasoning. NANWL S8 and S9 did have more regiments initially that made the run for the title pretty competitive (namely the 93rd and 1aSvea) but they ended up dropping out so.

Also in terms of leagues, 3e is 3-1 over LG (we met 4 times in regimental league finals- RGL S1, NAPL S2, NWGL, RGL S2). If you want to count the 40th as 3e which idk about that one, 3-2 for 3e still.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Glenn on January 24, 2021, 07:26:48 am
just a reminder of the hottest track of the decade

Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Windflower on January 24, 2021, 07:28:38 am
just a reminder of the hottest track of the decade

I think Zen had the craziest song ngl   ::)
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Yoshiee on January 24, 2021, 07:31:12 am
LMAO GLENN
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Yoshiee on January 24, 2021, 07:31:33 am
we need some yung zinq in here
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Fartknocker on January 24, 2021, 07:34:00 am
just a reminder of the hottest track of the decade

I think Zen had the craziest song ngl   ::)
Glenn really thought we'd forget LMAO! Man got COOKED

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkenhOQy6TQ&t=22s
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Cazasar on January 24, 2021, 04:43:11 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzYgVRe80cI&ab_channel=Xenoyia
I personally found the 83rd Video to be funnier, but its kinda funny that they are both clutch related. Thank you Rommel and Murphy.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: BabyJesus on January 24, 2021, 07:40:26 pm
Does the LG count as the 71st because cheesy was in it?
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: John Price on January 24, 2021, 08:09:57 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzYgVRe80cI&ab_channel=Xenoyia
I personally found the 83rd Video to be funnier, but its kinda funny that they are both clutch related. Thank you Rommel and Murphy.
83rd video was over-memed though and I contributed very little to it other than just being at the event :D
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Wastee on January 24, 2021, 09:21:36 pm
Does the LG count as the 71st because cheesy was in it?
yo we had

Cheesey, Russian, Me, You, Theo, Boob, Yoshie, Rothgar, Orcaryo, Will, Nevino, Bauer, Saltyy, Gi, Caskie, Domino, Skinny, Havoc and some others so we pretty much are the same
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: BabyJesus on January 24, 2021, 09:30:12 pm
Does the LG count as the 71st because cheesy was in it?
yo we had

Cheesey, Russian, Me, You, Theo, Boob, Yoshie, Rothgar, Orcaryo, Will, Nevino, Bauer, Saltyy, Gi, Caskie, Domino, Skinny, Havoc and some others so we pretty much are the same
71st/LG for best regiment of the decade then
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Wastee on January 24, 2021, 09:58:25 pm
Does the LG count as the 71st because cheesy was in it?
yo we had

Cheesey, Russian, Me, You, Theo, Boob, Yoshie, Rothgar, Orcaryo, Will, Nevino, Bauer, Saltyy, Gi, Caskie, Domino, Skinny, Havoc and some others so we pretty much are the same
71st/LG for best regiment of the decade then
71st had all the 12th guys also so add that in

if you add it all together that's a lot of 63e also between 71st and LG
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: junedragon on January 24, 2021, 11:27:32 pm
best quote is ez

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0Bh7eBvR0c
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: KillerShark on January 25, 2021, 12:25:42 am
best quote is ez

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0Bh7eBvR0c
When my regiment gets the first mention UwU
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: William on January 25, 2021, 02:46:32 am
Does the LG count as the 71st because cheesy was in it?
yo we had

Cheesey, Russian, Me, You, Theo, Boob, Yoshie, Rothgar, Orcaryo, Will, Nevino, Bauer, Saltyy, Gi, Caskie, Domino, Skinny, Havoc and some others so we pretty much are the same
71st/LG for best regiment of the decade then
+1. Miss that group :(
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Yoshiee on January 25, 2021, 04:53:08 am
the first LG was it after that it was not
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 26, 2021, 10:00:20 am
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Rikkert
Vegi


Most Influential
Bobertini
Faisan
Hekko
Herishey
Tardet


Best Player
Drake
Evanovic
Extazz
Python
Tiberias


Best Regiment
14e
15thYR
17e
66th
77y
92nd
Nr.24


Best Team
ChimpZ
FrenchTouch
Grouped
JediMasters
Poosy
TFFO


Best Match
15th vs 92nd RGL
45thN vs 92nd
85e vs 17e RGL


Best Event
NWL
RGL
Trench Battle


Best Server
Groupfighting Server
Killbox
NW Roleplay Server
Ricky Groupfighting
Tropical paradise






NA Nominations

Best Meme
Alexander underdog speech
Puppytron
This Game
Wastee’s Ephebophilia


Best Memer
DantheChef
Pedro
Puppytron
Shinto
Winters


Most Cringey
BillTheButcher
Cytiuz
Matt
Mayhem


Most Toxic
BillTheButcher
Cwater
Suns
VetroG
Yoshie


Most Influential
JackieChan
Jolly
Karth
Wastee


Best Player
AsianP
Jaax
JackieChan
Russianfury
Yoshie


Best Regiment
12th
3eVolt
63e
71st
LG


Best Team
Aces
Atomic
LG


Best Match
63e vs 71st S4 NANWL
71st vs 58e TNWL
LG vs 40th IRL


Best Event
00th Friday Event
NANWL
TNWL


Best Server
BBG_Bot_Survival
BoB Groupfighting
NA Groupfighting
NA1





Spreadsheet with the votes with the names removed and the data mostly cleaned (http://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1abXt8qcNQ9iPy7PVELYNtim3B1xHpguGRV-chM4ANdg)
Do note, the single votes were from multiple nominations in a single category that I split off.

I'm going to add the links to everything later
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 26, 2021, 10:07:04 am
btw someone else actually look at the spreadsheet for me because I left all the ones I had no idea about in their original form so maybe I missed something
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Vegi. on January 26, 2021, 10:13:33 am
Wait how am i again nominated for cringe toxic and memer
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Glenn on January 26, 2021, 10:14:40 am
ffs

How to get unbanned from botsurvival
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 26, 2021, 10:25:43 am
Wait how am i again nominated for cringe toxic and memer
you are cringe and toxic
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Vegi. on January 26, 2021, 10:27:54 am
Wait how am i again nominated for cringe toxic and memer
you are cringe and toxic
2020 i get that, but not the decade xdd
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 26, 2021, 10:29:28 am
Wait how am i again nominated for cringe toxic and memer
you are cringe and toxic
2020 i get that, but not the decade xdd
you are that cringe and toxic
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: bobertini on January 26, 2021, 10:35:20 am
btw someone else actually look at the spreadsheet for me because I left all the ones I had no idea about in their original form so maybe I missed something

gieb link
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Tardet on January 26, 2021, 10:40:30 am
btw someone else actually look at the spreadsheet for me because I left all the ones I had no idea about in their original form so maybe I missed something

gieb link
get your glasses on, old man

http://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1abXt8qcNQ9iPy7PVELYNtim3B1xHpguGRV-chM4ANdg
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: SpaceKiller on January 26, 2021, 11:21:56 am
Where is Axiom
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Nock on January 26, 2021, 11:29:01 am
mfw Hekko is not most influential when he created the gf format & the first gf tournaments

and the nwwc format (more like nwec at the time)
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Vegi. on January 26, 2021, 11:50:25 am
mfw Hekko is not most influential when he created the gf format & the first gf tournaments

and the nwwc format (more like nwec at the time)
+1'd
NA's pretty much took over this thread, so EU's couldn't come with real suggestions, so we got this shit.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: bobertini on January 26, 2021, 02:05:17 pm
btw someone else actually look at the spreadsheet for me because I left all the ones I had no idea about in their original form so maybe I missed something

gieb link
get your glasses on, old man

http://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1abXt8qcNQ9iPy7PVELYNtim3B1xHpguGRV-chM4ANdg

thank you dear x


edit:

pls add Hekko to most Influential.

Could even consider Rommel/Caz I think for making RGL
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Kore on January 26, 2021, 02:15:00 pm
ed is a meme?
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: David_Schrein on January 26, 2021, 03:01:22 pm
btw someone else actually look at the spreadsheet for me because I left all the ones I had no idea about in their original form so maybe I missed something

gieb link
get your glasses on, old man

http://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1abXt8qcNQ9iPy7PVELYNtim3B1xHpguGRV-chM4ANdg

thank you dear x


edit:

pls add Hekko to most Influential.

Could even consider Rommel/Caz I think for making RGL
and Hunter.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: John Price on January 26, 2021, 03:23:57 pm
I would just like to say SCREW YOU to the 5 people who voted for the 83rd showing off their melee skills :'(
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Vegi. on January 26, 2021, 03:25:00 pm
ye the other one was way better
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: John Price on January 26, 2021, 03:26:18 pm
I suppose the 83rd video is more OG as its from like 2013, but it wasnt even me who screamed block WHY U DO DIS
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Dren on January 26, 2021, 03:26:32 pm
ed is a meme?
no it's the best meme
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: bobertini on January 26, 2021, 03:31:17 pm
ed is a meme?
no it's the best meme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW5f8nLtfyA&ab_channel=bobertini32

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Na_7ICiL3JA&ab_channel=bobertini32
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Dren on January 26, 2021, 03:33:56 pm
ed is a meme?
no it's the best meme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW5f8nLtfyA&ab_channel=bobertini32

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Na_7ICiL3JA&ab_channel=bobertini32
Bob you're already my most influential vote i can't give you everything
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: John Price on January 26, 2021, 03:34:04 pm
The Dren one is great but the Bagins one really hits the spot. Forgot about that
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: bobertini on January 26, 2021, 03:37:55 pm
It's a pure gem, the first sentence always makes me laugh
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Rikkert on January 26, 2021, 03:43:02 pm
The Hercules you're a cunt too always gets me man.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: bobertini on January 26, 2021, 03:54:38 pm
Add Bumfluff to most toxic in EU please.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Nock on January 26, 2021, 03:59:16 pm
Add Bumfluff to most toxic in EU please.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Vegi. on January 26, 2021, 04:00:45 pm
Add Bumfluff to most toxic in EU please.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Cazasar on January 26, 2021, 04:27:12 pm
btw someone else actually look at the spreadsheet for me because I left all the ones I had no idea about in their original form so maybe I missed something

gieb link
get your glasses on, old man

http://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1abXt8qcNQ9iPy7PVELYNtim3B1xHpguGRV-chM4ANdg

thank you dear x


edit:

pls add Hekko to most Influential.

Could even consider Rommel/Caz I think for making RGL
and Hunter.
thank you! :) RGL was invented by Hunter, Phoenix and me and I can say that im very proud how far it has come.

I think of myself as relevant in 2015-2016, but thats not a long time if you compare it with Herishey for example. But thank you for thinking of me anyway :D
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: John Price on January 26, 2021, 04:56:29 pm
I voted for Hekko as most influential. Even if he has not  been around for a long time, he shaped NW for the next 8 years (so far) which I think should earn the spot most definitely.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Theodin on January 26, 2021, 05:03:29 pm
(https://i.gyazo.com/70ff5c2fcc6e3f3ecc54967ee1dc9627.png)
uh
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Windflower on January 26, 2021, 05:52:32 pm
i vote for jolly as most influential person since 2010
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Phailur on January 26, 2021, 06:37:29 pm
what is this recency bias for best memer lmao dont vote for me
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Herishey on January 26, 2021, 06:38:38 pm
Spoiler
btw someone else actually look at the spreadsheet for me because I left all the ones I had no idea about in their original form so maybe I missed something

gieb link
get your glasses on, old man

http://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1abXt8qcNQ9iPy7PVELYNtim3B1xHpguGRV-chM4ANdg

thank you dear x


edit:

pls add Hekko to most Influential.

Could even consider Rommel/Caz I think for making RGL
and Hunter.
thank you! :) RGL was invented by Hunter, Phoenix and me and I can say that im very proud how far it has come.

I think of myself as relevant in 2015-2016, but thats not a long time if you compare it with Herishey for example. But thank you for thinking of me anyway :D
[close]
How did I miss this thread, I could have had a much needed ego stroking by now.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Kore on January 26, 2021, 07:31:01 pm
ed is a meme?
no it's the best meme

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/opbs2yrb-II/hqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: ONeil_ on January 26, 2021, 07:35:40 pm
if tavington donations doesnt get biggest meme then this is pointless
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Tournesol on January 26, 2021, 07:44:02 pm
if tavington donations doesnt get biggest meme then this is pointless

Spoiler
(https://imgur.com/q5Ubzty.png)
[close]
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Tigere on January 26, 2021, 08:16:37 pm
if tavington donations doesnt get biggest meme then this is pointless

Spoiler
(https://imgur.com/q5Ubzty.png)
[close]
JEWALERT
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Golden. on January 26, 2021, 08:18:19 pm
if tavington donations doesnt get biggest meme then this is pointless

Were you even born then?
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Wursti on January 26, 2021, 08:35:08 pm
if tavington donations doesnt get biggest meme then this is pointless

Were you even born then?

Dont think you are someone who can try to trashtalk newgens

(https://i.gyazo.com/cec052e661693c8a4abf992d06166464.png)
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Steinmann on January 26, 2021, 08:35:12 pm
I voted Movement regs best regs
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Vegi. on January 26, 2021, 08:36:42 pm
if tavington donations doesnt get biggest meme then this is pointless

Were you even born then?

Dont think you are someone who can try to trashtalk newgens

(https://i.gyazo.com/cec052e661693c8a4abf992d06166464.png)
Go die again. Not that everyone had FSE back in the days.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Steinmann on January 26, 2021, 08:39:43 pm
Account created in 2017 guid 128 newgen
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Golden. on January 26, 2021, 08:46:32 pm
if tavington donations doesnt get biggest meme then this is pointless

Were you even born then?

Dont think you are someone who can try to trashtalk newgens

(https://i.gyazo.com/cec052e661693c8a4abf992d06166464.png)

You realise this is a new account I created in 2016 I have multiple accounts  :-X

You can find me on the 22nd roster for RGT 2013 when you still didn't know how to block 1 attack :-[
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: bobertini on January 26, 2021, 09:05:24 pm
if tavington donations doesnt get biggest meme then this is pointless

Were you even born then?

Dont think you are someone who can try to trashtalk newgens

(https://i.gyazo.com/cec052e661693c8a4abf992d06166464.png)

You realise this is a new account I created in 2016 I have multiple accounts  :-X

You can find me on the 22nd roster for RGT 2013 when you still didn't know how to block 1 attack :-[

Never forget Golden getting banned from KKA
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: ONeil_ on January 26, 2021, 09:31:24 pm
if tavington donations doesnt get biggest meme then this is pointless

Were you even born then?
guarantee 2015 me would've shat on 2015 you, i just stopped playing NW, you didnt  :-X
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: ShintoSkookum on January 26, 2021, 09:37:14 pm
how did NA1 get so few votes that’s cringe...
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Golden. on January 26, 2021, 09:59:40 pm
if tavington donations doesnt get biggest meme then this is pointless

Were you even born then?
guarantee 2015 me would've shat on 2015 you, i just stopped playing NW, you didnt  :-X

If your hands were big enough to hold a mouse you could have given it a shot  :-*
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Shadey on January 26, 2021, 10:07:07 pm
if tavington donations doesnt get biggest meme then this is pointless

Were you even born then?
Dont think you are someone who can try to trashtalk newgens

(https://i.gyazo.com/cec052e661693c8a4abf992d06166464.png)

You realise this is a new account I created in 2016 I have multiple accounts  :-X

You can find me on the 22nd roster for RGT 2013 when you still didn't know how to block 1 attack :-[
Wursti in shambles
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Python | Smeagol on January 26, 2021, 10:20:10 pm
if tavington donations doesnt get biggest meme then this is pointless

Were you even born then?
Dont think you are someone who can try to trashtalk newgens

(https://i.gyazo.com/cec052e661693c8a4abf992d06166464.png)

You realise this is a new account I created in 2016 I have multiple accounts  :-X

You can find me on the 22nd roster for RGT 2013 when you still didn't know how to block 1 attack :-[
Wursti in shambles

yikes
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 26, 2021, 10:33:56 pm
I voted for Hekko as most influential. Even if he has not  been around for a long time, he shaped NW for the next 8 years (so far) which I think should earn the spot most definitely.
cap
cap
cap
cap
cap
you didn't even nominate anyone
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: John Price on January 26, 2021, 10:42:35 pm
Yes I did wtf
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 26, 2021, 10:47:56 pm
Yes I did wtf
Unless it was sent via post it's not here kid
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: John Price on January 26, 2021, 11:33:47 pm
wtf can I still do it? I remember filling it out
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 27, 2021, 03:26:54 am
wtf can I still do it? I remember filling it out
smh you were one of the idiots that didn't put a name on it and it got thrown out...
I'm adjusting the nominated people due to this
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Zzehth on January 27, 2021, 03:32:01 am
Why BCoF is not the meme's decade?
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: bobertini on January 27, 2021, 09:07:52 am
Most Toxic
Golden
Obelix
Pieter
Rikkert
Vegi

Where BumFluff at????!!!
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 27, 2021, 09:37:38 am
Most Toxic
Golden
Obelix
Pieter
Rikkert
Vegi

Where BumFluff at????!!!
you didn't even nominate him smh
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: bobertini on January 27, 2021, 09:41:46 am
Most Toxic
Golden
Obelix
Pieter
Rikkert
Vegi

Where BumFluff at????!!!
you didn't even nominate him smh

I do now. I just forgot :(
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Keita on January 27, 2021, 10:10:09 am
whoever voted me as the best memer, thank you!!!
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Vegi. on January 27, 2021, 10:31:02 am
Most Toxic
Golden
Obelix
Pieter
Rikkert
Vegi

Where BumFluff at????!!!
you didn't even nominate him smh
i did
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 27, 2021, 10:42:23 am
Most Toxic
Golden
Obelix
Pieter
Rikkert
Vegi

Where BumFluff at????!!!
you didn't even nominate him smh
i did
you didn't even submit a nomination form
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Vegi. on January 27, 2021, 11:04:30 am
What!!!???
Then it must been bugged out or something  >:( :(
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 27, 2021, 11:13:26 am
What!!!???
Then it must been bugged out or something  >:( :(
no idea but it's not there chief
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Wastee on January 27, 2021, 05:01:51 pm
I’m not sure I saw mine either but I didn’t look very hard
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 27, 2021, 06:37:37 pm
I’m not sure I saw mine either but I didn’t look very hard
You’re there
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Golden. on January 27, 2021, 07:30:31 pm
Most toxic?  :)
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Windflower on January 27, 2021, 07:45:20 pm
how come Chicken Mastas isnt nominated 4 best team they were killers in the OG groupfighting tournaments
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: RussianFury on January 27, 2021, 07:47:19 pm
how come Chicken Mastas isnt nominated 4 best team they were killers in the OG groupfighting tournaments
This is the only thing I'll agree with you on.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 27, 2021, 07:48:04 pm
how come Chicken Mastas isnt nominated 4 best team they were killers in the OG groupfighting tournaments
Because not enough people nominated them?
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Windflower on January 27, 2021, 08:05:57 pm
how come Chicken Mastas isnt nominated 4 best team they were killers in the OG groupfighting tournaments
Because not enough people nominated them?
recency bias smh

how come Chicken Mastas isnt nominated 4 best team they were killers in the OG groupfighting tournaments
This is the only thing I'll agree with you on.
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/001/921/436/04c)
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: bobertini on January 27, 2021, 09:15:59 pm
Still no bumfluff  :'(
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 28, 2021, 02:21:52 pm
Sorry I got busy but voting will start later today when I can make the ballot
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: 19boboy97 on January 28, 2021, 02:24:12 pm
Sorry I got busy but voting will start later today when I can make the ballot

Probably the worst timing for this awards. Right after NW 2020 Awards and CR Election
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Nominations Open]
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 28, 2021, 03:27:52 pm
Voting Ballot (https://forms.gle/ntp51S1ET4pu23bNA)
Any questions, comments, or concerns, please leave them in the thread!
Voting will extend into the weekend and then the awards ceremony will be held next week.
All links should be updated as well.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: Tardet on January 28, 2021, 03:29:46 pm
(https://i.gyazo.com/31a2e655416758e5e22d16fd883d83f4.png)

Well that was quick
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 28, 2021, 03:31:44 pm
(https://i.gyazo.com/31a2e655416758e5e22d16fd883d83f4.png)

Well that was quick
whoops
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: Olafson on January 28, 2021, 03:45:16 pm
Eyy why am I not on the list. I Nominated myself!
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 28, 2021, 03:47:41 pm
Eyy why am I not on the list. I Nominated myself!
yeah and noone else did smh
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on January 28, 2021, 03:48:07 pm
:0
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: Vegi. on January 28, 2021, 03:55:38 pm
This awards is a epic jock i have never see cela
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: Windflower on January 28, 2021, 04:42:29 pm
(https://i.gyazo.com/60dbc47209a5719a264669495bb38a65.png)
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: Fartknocker on January 28, 2021, 05:18:31 pm
Karth and 63e 2021

Nobody has introduced more players to the regimental side of the game.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 28, 2021, 05:25:03 pm
Karth and 63e 2021

Nobody has introduced more players to the regimental side of the game.
I mean probably malakith
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: Tournesol on January 28, 2021, 05:36:29 pm
Which 92nd it is ? Donald ?
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: ClaSh on January 28, 2021, 05:58:00 pm
Which 92nd it is ? Donald ?

The one that actually won something yeah
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: Vegi. on January 28, 2021, 06:00:31 pm
Which 92nd it is ? Donald ?

The one that actually won something yeah
so the current 92nd?

Spoiler
NWBC S3 BOOM BITCH
[close]
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: |Viper| on January 28, 2021, 07:31:01 pm
Karth and 63e 2021

Nobody has introduced more players to the regimental side of the game.
😐  🚪 <—🚶‍♀️
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: Tardet on January 28, 2021, 09:01:57 pm
If Hekko doesn't get most influential than my hope for this community is truly gone.

You may have not know him in person but the fact the influence he held still lives up through some people nowadays is a testimony of the mark he left in this community, almost 10 years after.

Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: John Price on January 28, 2021, 09:13:03 pm
If Hekko doesn't get most influential than my hope for this community is truly gone.

You may have not know him in person but the fact the influence he held still lives up through some people nowadays is a testimony of the mark he left in this community, almost 10 years after.
Barely anyone voted for him from what I saw. But I put mine in for him and I completely agree.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: Tardet on January 28, 2021, 09:22:16 pm
If Hekko doesn't get most influential than my hope for this community is truly gone.

You may have not know him in person but the fact the influence he held still lives up through some people nowadays is a testimony of the mark he left in this community, almost 10 years after.
Barely anyone voted for him from what I saw. But I put mine in for him and I completely agree.
Wait you can see who voted?
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: Glenn on January 28, 2021, 09:24:21 pm
If Hekko doesn't get most influential than my hope for this community is truly gone.

You may have not know him in person but the fact the influence he held still lives up through some people nowadays is a testimony of the mark he left in this community, almost 10 years after.
Barely anyone voted for him from what I saw. But I put mine in for him and I completely agree.
Wait you can see who voted?

You can see the nominations

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1abXt8qcNQ9iPy7PVELYNtim3B1xHpguGRV-chM4ANdg/htmlview
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: Olafson on January 28, 2021, 11:35:51 pm
Eyy why am I not on the list. I Nominated myself!
yeah and noone else did smh

I had no idea that you had to get several people nominating you... You should have told me. I have many alts.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: John Price on January 29, 2021, 12:42:30 am
Typical Olaf ::)
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: Golden. on January 29, 2021, 12:45:48 am
Typical Olaf ::)
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: JollyCanadian on January 29, 2021, 07:30:51 am
(https://i.gyazo.com/60dbc47209a5719a264669495bb38a65.png)
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: Stroke0fd34th on January 29, 2021, 08:27:36 am
Some of these nominations are crazy.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: BabyJesus on January 29, 2021, 08:35:41 am
Some of these nominations are crazy.
godfreid for most toxic
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 29, 2021, 08:35:49 am
Some of these nominations are crazy.
Crazy.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: ShintoSkookum on January 29, 2021, 08:40:37 am
if NA1 doesnt win i call recency bias
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: Stroke0fd34th on January 29, 2021, 08:42:26 am
if NA1 doesnt win i call recency bias

I'm gonna call it anyways
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: Herishey on January 29, 2021, 12:21:58 pm
Eyy why am I not on the list. I Nominated myself!
yeah and noone else did smh

I had no idea that you had to get several people nominating you... You should have told me. I have many alts.
8)
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: Nock on January 29, 2021, 12:45:33 pm
If Hekko doesn't get most influential than my hope for this community is truly gone.

You may have not know him in person but the fact the influence he held still lives up through some people nowadays is a testimony of the mark he left in this community, almost 10 years after.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: ClaSh on January 29, 2021, 12:51:16 pm
If Hekko doesn't get most influential than my hope for this community is truly gone.

You may have not know him in person but the fact the influence he held still lives up through some people nowadays is a testimony of the mark he left in this community, almost 10 years after.

NW competitive scene exists thanks to him
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: Fwuffy on January 29, 2021, 12:52:42 pm
Wow this hecko guy sounds like the second coming of jesus
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: fruitocino on January 29, 2021, 01:14:47 pm
Wow this hecko guy sounds like the second coming of jesus
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: ClaSh on January 29, 2021, 01:23:35 pm
Wow this hecko guy sounds like the second coming of jesus

(https://i.postimg.cc/MGSmk066/hekko.png)
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: PrideofNi on January 29, 2021, 07:34:12 pm
1/10 poll!!!!
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 31, 2021, 12:10:58 pm
Remember the voting closes tonight so I don’t really want to get moaned at so vote thanks
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on February 01, 2021, 09:01:57 am
Voting for the Decade NW Awards has concluded!

Thank you to all of the people that have voted! The results will be announced at the awards ceremony in a couple days(Read as Tuesday or Wednesday). I have to tally the votes and get rid of all INVALID ballots that were cast so it may take a little bit.





Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: RussianFury on February 04, 2021, 05:43:40 am
Dan is spending extra time to rig the vote so it looks legit.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: Nock on February 04, 2021, 08:14:22 am
Dan is spending extra time to rig the vote so it looks legit.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on February 04, 2021, 09:14:50 am
Dan is spending extra time to rig the vote so it looks legit.
sorry king I had a lot of snow to shovel
today say like 3 pm est maybe
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: John Price on February 04, 2021, 11:52:51 am
Dan are we doing another reveal livestream????
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: Fartknocker on February 04, 2021, 04:31:43 pm
Rigged. Karth deserves every award
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards[Voting Open]
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on February 04, 2021, 07:01:45 pm
https://www.twitch.tv/dandachef
2 hours
3pm EST/8pm GMT
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Gibby Jr on February 04, 2021, 09:35:27 pm
don't think it is very fair to write mine and Herishey's list off as "entirely subjective and means nothing". the latter part is arguable, but it is disingenuous to argue the former. all of the team ratings are based on a complete database provided by Tardet and Tiberias of every tournament placement by every team. the by-era aspect is essentially based entirely on this, with some lesser credit given to wins in things like tournaments involving swords. the all-time team list is both a tallying up of placements by each team as well as an accommodation of the era in which they were playing and the competition they had at that time. for individual players it is much the same - the era ratings are largely a result of placements in tournaments within each era, while the all time ratings are a consideration of their entire time in NW. this means that, again, it is not solely about their total tournament placements, but about the era in which they achieved those placements and how much competition they had for it.

there's a formula at play: for instance, all of the tier 1 all time placements placed in the top 10 in at least two eras. all of the tier 2 all time placements are either players who managed a top 10 in one era, or who reached top 20 in several. it's very formulaic, at least for tiers 1 and 2, although you can argue more subjectively about the tier 3-5 placements. that is the case for players, but the regimental and team assessments are based almost entirely on statistical data. i don't mind if you think the list means nothing but i think it's unfair to lump it in with the kind of lists which consist of a single person's arbitrary opinion with no additional substance, particularly when Herishey in particular spent a lot of time talking to a lot of people to try and be as objective as possible
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Vegi. on February 04, 2021, 09:39:20 pm
This award is zzzzz
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Windflower on February 04, 2021, 09:41:37 pm
LG influence comin in strong in the polls
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: John Price on February 04, 2021, 09:45:52 pm
don't think it is very fair to write mine and Herishey's list off as "entirely subjective and means nothing". the latter part is arguable, but it is disingenuous to argue the former. all of the team ratings are based on a complete database provided by Tardet and Tiberias of every tournament placement by every team. the by-era aspect is essentially based entirely on this, with some lesser credit given to wins in things like tournaments involving swords. the all-time team list is both a tallying up of placements by each team as well as an accommodation of the era in which they were playing and the competition they had at that time. for individual players it is much the same - the era ratings are largely a result of placements in tournaments within each era, while the all time ratings are a consideration of their entire time in NW. this means that, again, it is not solely about their total tournament placements, but about the era in which they achieved those placements and how much competition they had for it.

there's a formula at play: for instance, all of the tier 1 all time placements placed in the top 10 in at least two eras. all of the tier 2 all time placements are either players who managed a top 10 in one era, or who reached top 20 in several. it's very formulaic, at least for tiers 1 and 2, although you can argue more subjectively about the tier 3-5 placements. that is the case for players, but the regimental and team assessments are based almost entirely on statistical data. i don't mind if you think the list means nothing but i think it's unfair to lump it in with the kind of lists which consist of a single person's arbitrary opinion with no additional substance, particularly when Herishey in particular spent a lot of time talking to a lot of people to try and be as objective as possible
Gibby just FYI this should not be taken seriously
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Cazasar on February 04, 2021, 09:49:11 pm
who WON
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on February 04, 2021, 09:58:05 pm
Cleaned Votes (http://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UOpv1RoE9GCWVsew0epCOmRsNd6PGTpw8ZRxhowGOk4/)

Decade NW Award Winners

Regimental Special Award
1stRddt, 32nd, 33rd, 77y, 87th

Content Awards
Best Content Creator - Herishey
Best Video - 83rd Showing Off Their Melee Skills
Best Post - All Time NW List - Herishey and Gibby
Best Quote - LeBrave

European Awards
Best Meme - 15thYR vs 92nd
Best Memer - Gunzo
Most Cringey - Drake
Most Toxic - Obelix
Most Influential - Herishey
Best Player - Python
Best Regiment - 15thYR
Best Team - FrenchTouch
Best Match - 15thYR vs 92nd RGL
Best Event - RGL
Best Server - Groupfighting Server*
*Due to the Groupfighting Server winning for a third time, the Category is named the Groupfighting Server Award


North American Awards
Best Meme - Wastee’s Ephebophilia
Best Memer - Shinto
Most Cringey - Cytiuz
Most Toxic - Suns
Most Influential - JackieChan
Best Player - JackieChan
Best Regiment - LG
Best Team - LG
Best Match - LG vs 40th IRL Finals
Best Event - NANWL
Best Server - NA Groupfighting

Thanks and Notes
Thanks Devs
Thanks MBcomp.org (http://MBcomp.org)
Thanks Chefs of Swaziland
Give NW Awards a subboard

Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on February 04, 2021, 10:01:24 pm
Quick interview from Shinto since he showed up after the stream.

Question 1. How do you feel about winning Best North American Memer?
Answer: "I'm happy to be memer of the decade, but I kinda forgot the awards existed."
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Lonedoge. on February 04, 2021, 10:02:18 pm
CHADMAN ROBBED
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: ShintoSkookum on February 04, 2021, 10:03:11 pm
NA1 shouldve won

i am sorry to my fellow NA1 gamers i did not campaign hard enough for the W

but ty for all who voted me best memer
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on February 04, 2021, 10:05:41 pm
This award is zzzzz
2018-90 Votes
2019-65
2020-250
Decade-90
that's literally just maskman bussing in votes I think
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Vegi. on February 04, 2021, 10:08:22 pm
This award is zzzzz
2018-90 Votes
2019-65
2020-250
Decade-90
that's literally just maskman bussing in votes I think
True dat
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on February 04, 2021, 10:14:51 pm
CHADMAN ROBBED
MALAKITH ROBBED
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Cazasar on February 04, 2021, 10:20:42 pm
im kinda moved RGL won not gonna lie
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Theodin on February 04, 2021, 10:24:00 pm
Ayo best team was Atomic - although we were all LG so idk
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Herishey on February 04, 2021, 11:39:58 pm
4x EU Decade Awards Champion, easy.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Glenn on February 04, 2021, 11:40:26 pm
This award is zzzzz
2018-90 Votes
2019-65
2020-250
Decade-90
that's literally just maskman bussing in votes I think


If the NW awards had its own child board there would have been more votes
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Kristine on February 05, 2021, 12:36:40 am
NA1 shouldve won
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Fredrick on February 05, 2021, 12:41:05 am
CHADMAN ROBBED
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on February 05, 2021, 01:32:37 am
This award is zzzzz
2018-90 Votes
2019-65
2020-250
Decade-90
that's literally just maskman bussing in votes I think


If the NW awards had its own child board there would have been more votes
We would have a higher advertising budget
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Golden. on February 05, 2021, 02:24:37 am
Damn I need to start being more toxic
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Fartknocker on February 05, 2021, 02:31:21 am
63e and Karth stay getting disrespected as usual smh
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Sgt.Winters on February 05, 2021, 08:01:56 am
Waste didn't even need suitcases, just a card holder.
Title: Re: NW Decade Awards
Post by: Wastee on February 05, 2021, 03:49:23 pm
Waste didn't even need suitcases, just a card holder.

STRAPPED HOMIE