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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #2100 on: December 02, 2017, 03:00:00 pm »
We just passed a huge tax reform bill in the Senate, no longer will we have the highest corporate tax rates in the industrialized world, aye

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #2101 on: December 02, 2017, 03:10:00 pm »
We just passed a huge tax reform bill in the Senate, no longer will we have the highest corporate tax rates in the industrialized world, aye
Thoughts on Flynn?

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #2102 on: December 02, 2017, 04:24:25 pm »
We just passed a huge tax reform bill in the Senate, no longer will we have the highest corporate tax rates in the industrialized world, aye
Thoughts on Flynn?
He obviously should be held liable for lying to the FBI about talking to Russia.  But what's sad is they spent since May and could only charge him with lying about that... was expecting a bit more given the intensity of the investigation. Flynn is a good guy otherwise, he has a decorated career and has definitely given a lot to this country, so it's sad when his career ends like this

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #2103 on: December 02, 2017, 07:07:28 pm »
We just passed a huge tax reform bill in the Senate, no longer will we have the highest corporate tax rates in the industrialized world, aye
Thoughts on Flynn?
He obviously should be held liable for lying to the FBI about talking to Russia.  But what's sad is they spent since May and could only charge him with lying about that... was expecting a bit more given the intensity of the investigation. Flynn is a good guy otherwise, he has a decorated career and has definitely given a lot to this country, so it's sad when his career ends like this

Lol. They're only charging him for that because Flynn entered into some kind of plea deal-he's allegedly given them info on another member of the administration in return for the other charges being dropped. Apparently it's Kushner he's grassed on.

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #2104 on: December 04, 2017, 03:45:23 pm »
We just passed a huge tax reform bill in the Senate, no longer will we have the highest corporate tax rates in the industrialized world, aye


It's interesting as there seem to be no countermeasures towards to loss of all that money coming in.... even if it will buy jobs, that won't account for the trillions of dollars the US Government will lose... and it still needs the money, or you know, the already dramatic financial situation of the country gets even more dramatic.
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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #2105 on: December 04, 2017, 04:21:52 pm »
I’ve heard that they slipped some really sneaky shit into that bill too. Dunno if it’s true like but read that they added something on abortions? Can anyone confirm this?

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« Reply #2106 on: December 04, 2017, 07:25:22 pm »
That wouldn't make much sense considering it'd make categorisation of law quite hard if we started putting health shit in financial law.

Imagine a future law student failing a test because he missed Abortions are illegal because of Article 483 lid 56 section 12 of the Financial Reform Act states it as illegal.
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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #2107 on: December 04, 2017, 07:57:24 pm »
It's a good bill, the 1.5 trillion deficit doesn't take into considerations the amount of repatriation tax the government will reap over the next decade, with huge corporations already starting next year.  Keep in mind that the Congressional budget office which put out that analysis is not fully bipartisan like they might say, the guy who runs it was a strong liberal for years.

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #2108 on: December 04, 2017, 08:02:32 pm »
(Occasional reminder that tax cuts are only a good thing if followed by sensible cuts to public expenditure, otherwise you'll have to borrow to meet your commitments)

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #2109 on: December 04, 2017, 09:23:13 pm »
(Occasional reminder that tax cuts are only a good thing if followed by sensible cuts to public expenditure, otherwise you'll have to borrow to meet your commitments)

Don't worry. They won't cut anything, they never do. Democrats will do everything they can to block cuts to [insert these programs] and the Republicans will refuse to cut [Insert Other Programs]; the Federal Government hasn't known how to become fiscally responsible for a while now because constituents would rather keep spending other people's money for their own comfort, even if we're out of other people's money to spend; combined with certain people's unwillingness to leave the world be.
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« Reply #2111 on: December 05, 2017, 12:05:45 am »
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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #2112 on: December 05, 2017, 12:34:44 am »
Don't worry. They won't cut anything, they never do. Democrats will do everything they can to block cuts to [insert these programs] and the Republicans will refuse to cut [Insert Other Programs]; the Federal Government hasn't known how to become fiscally responsible for a while now because constituents would rather keep spending other people's money for their own comfort, even if we're out of other people's money to spend; combined with certain people's unwillingness to leave the world be.

But surely leaders in our democratic system would do something more than just look out for their own (Or their party's) reelection? Someone must look to the future, beyond the lining of their own pockets with public money, right?

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #2113 on: December 05, 2017, 01:55:57 am »
Don't worry. They won't cut anything, they never do. Democrats will do everything they can to block cuts to [insert these programs] and the Republicans will refuse to cut [Insert Other Programs]; the Federal Government hasn't known how to become fiscally responsible for a while now because constituents would rather keep spending other people's money for their own comfort, even if we're out of other people's money to spend; combined with certain people's unwillingness to leave the world be.

But surely leaders in our democratic system would do something more than just look out for their own (Or their party's) reelection? Someone must look to the future, beyond the lining of their own pockets with public money, right?
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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #2114 on: December 05, 2017, 06:27:16 pm »
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/04/supreme-court-permits-full-enforcement-trump-travel-ban.html

Well... that took a while.
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