NFL QB tier list (WIP)

[Fartknocker]

I think you’re overblowing fumbles for quarterbacks. They fumble more than any position for obvious reasons. Kyle Allen is up there with Minshew, Cousins, Goff, Watson, and Dalton for fumbles right now. All these guys have pretty bad offensive lines. Allen has also only fumbled once in his last two games. The difference here is that Kyle Allen has 0 interceptions.

Allen does a much better job of finding his outlets than Cam. He spreads out the defense more than Cam which helps McCaffrey get more space to operate. With Cam in, the defense just has to focus on the backfield instead of worrying about the receivers.

If Kyle Allen keeps winning games I think Cam should be saved for later. Cam could come back when fully healthy instead of being rushed, which is perfect for the Panthers. Cam has more talent but if it ain’t broke don’t fix it.

[Hawkince]

I think you’re overblowing fumbles for quarterbacks. They fumble more than any position for obvious reasons. Kyle Allen is up there with Minshew, Cousins, Goff, Watson, and Dalton for fumbles right now. All these guys have pretty bad offensive lines. Allen has also only fumbled once in his last two games. The difference here is that Kyle Allen has 0 interceptions.

Allen does a much better job of finding his outlets than Cam. He spreads out the defense more than Cam which helps McCaffrey get more space to operate. With Cam in, the defense just has to focus on the backfield instead of worrying about the receivers.

If Kyle Allen keeps winning games I think Cam should be saved for later. Cam could come back when fully healthy instead of being rushed, which is perfect for the Panthers. Cam has more talent but if it ain’t broke don’t fix it.

A fumble is a turnover just like an interception is you can't just disregard them because they happen in the backfield. In fact I would argue that they're worse than interceptions as at least they usually happen more downfield.

As for "finding outlets" you failed to address any of my points about how McCaffrey and the play of the rest of the panthers have bolstered him. To even attempt to say Allen spreads the defense out more is blasphemous. With Cam in they have to watch all 11 players, sideline to sideline. It's no secret Cam Newton is a better athlete than Allen and has a much bigger arm as well. His scrambling ability forces someone to spy and allows more room for his receivers to operate, frankly the opposite of what you are saying about "spreading out the defense". There is no way you can say that "they don't have to worry about receivers" when Cam is in. That's a ridiculous take and fails to account for the fact that this is arguably the best supporting cast the panthers have ever had.

I do agree, there's no need to rush Cam back but he has 2 weeks now to get right for their next game against the 49ers and frankly if he's healthy there's no way Kyle Allen should start over him. In fact Schefter reported that Cam's injury has healed well and expects him to be healthy soon. (https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/1183872112303493121?s=21)

[BabyJesus]

I hope cam comes back and the panthers tank

[Dan the Seagull Chef]

I hope cam comes back and the panthers tank

[Hawkince]

die

[MikeyBruh]

danny to low

[Fartknocker]

Told y’all Ryan Finley would replace Dalton this year.

[sidney crosby]

need to see some trades today

[ShintoSkookum]

Told y’all Ryan Finley would replace Dalton this year.

[~NickCole~]

blasphemous

[Hawkince]

Lol where are all the Kyle Allen stans now boomers smdh

[Fartknocker]

Lol where are all the Kyle Allen stans now boomers smdh

He ain't the long term answer but clearly he's better than Cam rn. Best ability is availability and Cam is made of glass. He still has a winning record with this shaky team too.

Panthers are lucky this draft class has 5 studs at the top of the draft at QB.

Also the Falcons game is his only game where I can fully blame him for the loss. The 49ers have the best defense rn so obviously he was gonna get rocked by them. Green Bay is also a top team in the NFL and he basically led them all the way down the field in the end and would've won the game if there was a better angle for the review on the last play.

When Kyle Allen has to throw the ball 43 times and 50 times you know you're fucked and that's what happened the last two games. I'm no Kyle Allen stan but if you think the Panthers should be any better than they are right now you're crazy. They have overperformed.

[Hawkince]

Lol where are all the Kyle Allen stans now boomers smdh

He ain't the long term answer but clearly he's better than Cam rn. Best ability is availability and Cam is made of glass. He still has a winning record with this shaky team too.

Panthers are lucky this draft class has 5 studs at the top of the draft at QB.

Also the Falcons game is his only game where I can fully blame him for the loss. The 49ers have the best defense rn so obviously he was gonna get rocked by them. Green Bay is also a top team in the NFL and he basically led them all the way down the field in the end and would've won the game if there was a better angle for the review on the last play.

When Kyle Allen has to throw the ball 43 times and 50 times you know you're fucked and that's what happened the last two games. I'm no Kyle Allen stan but if you think the Panthers should be any better than they are right now you're crazy. They have overperformed.

https://twitter.com/billym_91/status/1197928900275425282?s=21 Kyle Allen isn't half the quarterback Cam Newton is and in all honestly we can easily win the Packers and Falcons game with Cam Newton. He just doesn't have the arm strength, elusiveness, speed or athleticism that Cam does and there's no way in hell the Panthers draft a QB this season. I don't know what you mean by 5 studs at the top of the draft because Tua is easily the #1 prospect this year even with being hurt. Then who? Joe Burrow? Jake Fromm?

[Fartknocker]

Lol where are all the Kyle Allen stans now boomers smdh

He ain't the long term answer but clearly he's better than Cam rn. Best ability is availability and Cam is made of glass. He still has a winning record with this shaky team too.

Panthers are lucky this draft class has 5 studs at the top of the draft at QB.

Also the Falcons game is his only game where I can fully blame him for the loss. The 49ers have the best defense rn so obviously he was gonna get rocked by them. Green Bay is also a top team in the NFL and he basically led them all the way down the field in the end and would've won the game if there was a better angle for the review on the last play.

When Kyle Allen has to throw the ball 43 times and 50 times you know you're fucked and that's what happened the last two games. I'm no Kyle Allen stan but if you think the Panthers should be any better than they are right now you're crazy. They have overperformed.

https://twitter.com/billym_91/status/1197928900275425282?s=21 Kyle Allen isn't half the quarterback Cam Newton is and in all honestly we can easily win the Packers and Falcons game with Cam Newton. He just doesn't have the arm strength, elusiveness, speed or athleticism that Cam does and there's no way in hell the Panthers draft a QB this season. I don't know what you mean by 5 studs at the top of the draft because Tua is easily the #1 prospect this year even with being hurt. Then who? Joe Burrow? Jake Fromm?

Tua Tagovailoa
Joe Burrow
Justin Herbert
Jake Fromm
Jacob Eason

These guys are all capable of being taken in the first round. Then there are guys like Jalen Hurts, Kellen Mond, Jordan Love, and others that can improve their draft stock.

Then next years class will also have some interesting qb prospects especially if Eason stays another year.

I am a big Tua guy and I love him but after the injury he definitely isn't safe at #1 IMO.

[Fartknocker]

Told y’all Ryan Finley would replace Dalton this year.

this didnt age well LMAO

Well it still happened so I was still right. Sadly Dalton gets his resurgence and smacks my Jets.

Being a Jets fan is the worst thing in the world. Wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.