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Stats *Updated 1/27/14*
« on: June 03, 2013, 06:26:11 pm »
Ranker Stats for B&I

These are the stats of Blood & Iron Ranker units. This does not include Musicians, Officers, or Sergeants. If a class does not include the stats of a certain skill; it means that stat is very low and not worth mentioning.

(1H): One Handed Weapons
(2H): Two Handed Weapons
(Pl): Polearms (Bayonets)
(CrsBw): CrossBow (Shooting)
(Bow): Bow




FRANCE

Infantry

Partisani:                                                        50 (1H), 80 (2H), 80 (Pl), 105 (CrsBw)
Garde Mobile:                                                 60 (1H), 100 (2H), 100 (Pl), 95 (CrsBw)
67e:                                                                80 (1H), 125 (2H), 125 (Pl), 100 (CrsBw)
1er Grenadiers:                                              100 (1H), 150 (2H), 150 (Pl), 105 (CrsBw)
1er Chasseurs:                                               80 (1H), 105 (2H), 105 (Pl), 115 (CrsBw)
1er Zouaves:                                                  50 (1H), 200 (2H), 200 (Pl), 85 (CrsBw)
1er Marines:                                                   120 (1H), 140 (2H), 140 (Pl), 100 (CrsBw)
Naval Infantry:                                                80 (1H), 125 (2H), 125 (Pl), 100 (CrsBw)

Cavalry

12e:                                                                 150 (1H), 80 (2H), 80 (Pl), 90 (CrsBw)
3e:                                                                   125 (1H), 80 (2H), 80 (Pl), 100 (CrsBw)
9e:                                                                   175 (1H), 80 (2H), 80 (Pl), 70 (CrsBw)






PRUSSIA

Infantry

Rheinisches:                                                  80 (1H), 125 (2H), 125 (Pl), 100 (CrsBw)
Westphälisches:                                            80 (1H), 125 (2H), 125 (Pl), 100 (CrsBw)
Landwehr:                                                     60 (1H), 100 (2H), 100 (Pl), 95 (CrsBw)
Garde-Regiment:                                           100 (1H), 150 (2H), 150 (Pl), 105 (CrsBw)
Jäger:                                                            80 (1H), 105 (2H), 105 (Pl), 115 (CrsBw)
Garde-Schützen:                                            80 (1H), 120 (2H), 120 (Pl), 110 (CrsBw)
Marine-Soldaten:                                           120 (1H), 140 (2H), 140 (Pl), 100 (CrsBw)

Cavalry

3. Brandenburgisches:                                   150 (1H), 80 (2H), 80 (Pl), 90 (CrsBw)
12. Brandenburgische:                                   125 (1H), 80 (2H), 80 (Pl), 100 (CrsBw)
7. Magdeburgisches:                                      175 (1H), 80 (2H), 80 (Pl), 70 (CrsBw)






Britain

Infantry

Colonial Volunteer:                                          50 (1H), 80 (2H), 80 (Pl), 105 (CrsBw)
15th Ludhiana Sikhs:                                       60 (1H), 100 (2H), 100 (PL), 100 (CrsBw)
42nd Regiment of Foot (Black Watch):            100 (1H), 150 (2H), 150 (PL), 105 (CrsBw)
24th Warwickshire Regiment Of Foot:             80 (1H),125 (2H), 125 (PL), 100 (CrsBw)
1st Gurkha Rifles:                                            200 (1H),150 (2H), 150 (PL), 90 (CrsBw)
Duke of Cornwall:                                            80 (1H),125 (2H), 125 (PL), 115 (CrsBw)
Royal Marines Light Infantry:                          120 (1H),140 (2H), 140 (PL), 100 (CrsBw)

Cavalry

2nd Punjab Cavalry:                                      150 (1H),80 (2H), 80 (PL), 90 (CrsBw)
New South Wales Lancers:                            125 (1H),150 (2H), 150 (PL), 100 (CrsBw)
2nd Dragoons (Royal Scots Grey):                 175 (1H),80 (2H), 80 (PL), 70 (CrsBw)






Micro Factions

Infantry

Swedish Infantry (1875):                                  80 (1H), 125 (2H),  125 (Pl),  100 (CrsBw)
Austrian Infantry (1871):                                  80 (1H), 125 (2H), 125 (Pl), 100 (CrsBw)
Russian Line Infantry (1877):                           80 (1H), 125 (2H), 125 (Pl), 100 (CrsBw)
Ottoman Regular infantry (1877):                     80 (1H), 125 (2H), 125 (Pl), 100 (CrsBw)
United States Infantry (1875):                         80 (1H), 125 (2H), 125 (Pl), 100 (CrsBw)
Japanese Imperial Infantry (1868):                  80 (1H), 125 (2H), 125 (Pl), 100 (CrsBw)
Italian Infantry:                                                80 (1H), 125 (2H), 125 (Pl), 100 (CrsBw)
Royal Netherlands Marines:                              80 (1H), 125 (2H), 125 (Pl), 100 (CrsBw)

Cavalry

United States Cavalry (1876):                         150 (1H), 80 (2H), 80 (Pl), 90 (CrsBw)
Plains Indians:                                                150 (1H), 80 (2H), 80 (Pl), 90 (CrsBw)
Plains Indians Mounted Archer:                      150 (1H), 80 (2H), 80 (Pl), 90 (CrsBw), 150 (Bow)
Boer Commando:                                            150 (1H), 80 (2H), 80 (Pl), 90 (CrsBw)






20th Century Units

Boxer Rebellion

Chinese Traditional Infantry:                          100 (1H), 100 (2H), 100 (Pl), 100 (CrsBw), 150 (Bow)
Chinese imperial infantry:                               100 (1H), 100 (2H), 100 (Pl), 100 (CrsBw), 150 (Bow)
Chinese Irregular Cavalry:                              100 (1H), 100 (2H), 100 (Pl), 100 (CrsBw), 150 (Bow)
Royal Marines (Eight Nation Alliance):             100 (1H), 100 (2H), 100 (Pl), 100 (CrsBw), 150 (Bow)
US Marine Corps (Eight Nation Alliance):         100 (1H), 100 (2H), 100 (Pl), 100 (CrsBw), 150 (Bow)

Second Boer War

British Infantry:                                                100 (1H), 100 (2H), 100 (Pl), 100 (CrsBw), 150 (Bow)
Boer Commandos:                                            100 (1H), 100 (2H), 100 (Pl), 100 (CrsBw), 150 (Bow)

Spanish American War

United States Infantry:                                     100 (1H), 100 (2H), 100 (Pl), 100 (CrsBw), 150 (Bow)
Rough Riders:                                                   100 (1H), 100 (2H), 100 (Pl), 100 (CrsBw), 150 (Bow)
Spanish Troops:                                                100 (1H), 100 (2H), 100 (Pl), 100 (CrsBw), 150 (Bow)

Blue Paintball

Blue Paintballer                                                  80 (1H), 125 (2H), 125 (Pl), 100 (CrsBw)
Red Paintballer:                                                 80 (1H), 125 (2H), 125 (Pl), 100 (CrsBw)






All

Sapper:                                                          70 (1H), 100 (2H), 100 (Pl), 95 (CrsBw)
Medic:                                                            130 (1H), 5 (2H), 30 (Pl), 30 (CrsBw)
Priest:                                                            50 (1H, 50 (2H), 50 (Pl), 50 (CrsBw)
« Last Edit: January 27, 2014, 10:13:01 pm by Lunatic »

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Re: Stats
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2013, 06:32:51 pm »
Lol, now i get to enjoy people complaining and debating about the balance.

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Re: Stats
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2013, 07:01:53 pm »
As far as I'm concerned it's mildly realistic; the French were at a massive disadvantage to the North German Confederation during the Franco-Prussian War, both technologically and strategically. I think, to an extent, it makes it more interesting. The French will have to rely move on tactics during events, whereas the Prussians can place more faith in their own firepower.

I'm assuming the stats for French and Prussian artillery are the same?

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Re: Stats
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2013, 07:06:44 pm »
As far as I'm concerned it's mildly realistic; the French were at a massive disadvantage to the North German Confederation during the Franco-Prussian War, both technologically and strategically. I think, to an extent, it makes it more interesting. The French will have to rely move on tactics during events, whereas the Prussians can place more faith in their own firepower.

I'm assuming the stats for French and Prussian artillery are the same?

The French had the technological advantage with their rifle the Chassepot, which outclassed the Dreyse in every way, fortunately most of those ways can't be represented in M&B, such as the Dreyses tendancy to blow burning smoke and ash into the users face after a few shots.
The artillery units have the same stats yes.

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Re: Stats
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2013, 07:10:24 pm »
Personnaly i think,

 Its just stats, its not important in this mod

Stats are good, no change !!
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Re: Stats
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2013, 07:10:57 pm »
Although it was nice of you to post the stats its really not a positive thing.

Now everybody will think more about the stats of their units instead of the history or looks  :(

And as Wilhelm said, now everyone is going to bicker about the stats  :(


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Re: Stats
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2013, 07:14:00 pm »
It is fine. Smart people who know skill and team work, as well as using the provided tech will give them the equal advantage every time. 

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Re: Stats
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2013, 07:19:37 pm »
I posted these stats to help reg leaders in lbs. In the LB I set up, every one was confused and had no idea what unit does what.

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Re: Stats
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2013, 09:00:28 am »
Colonel Ageati, if you can read this, THIS is why we don't go Guarde Mobile! Plus their vests upset me...

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Re: Stats
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2013, 04:10:30 pm »
So foot guards have every advantage over line infantry and no disadvantages? I thought foot guards had a lower shooting skill and less agility?

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« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2013, 04:14:29 pm »
They are foot guards... Best of the best of each army -_-


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« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2013, 04:20:19 pm »
They are foot guards... Best of the best of each army -_-

Yes I know but a few people told me in NW they had lower crossbow skills to balance out their superior melee skills. Oh well.

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Re: Stats
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2013, 04:42:23 pm »
This isn't Napoleonic wars though.

At first i tried to balance each unit, but it was impossible without making them all the same, so i just settled for not balancing the units but the factions instead. So a foot guard has all better stats than a militia for example, because they should. Although some units have unique stats, like the Franc tireurs and Zouaves being exceptionally fast.

How ever in shooting they are basically all the same except for Light infantry which is a little more accurate, and since shooting is the main form of combat the stat imbalance is less noticeable.

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« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2013, 05:02:04 pm »
They are foot guards... Best of the best of each army -_-

Yes I know but a few people told me in NW they had lower crossbow skills to balance out their superior melee skills. Oh well.

No there was a stat thing like this in NW too, it said that the only thing that differed Foot Guards from Line infantry was their Polearm skill of 145. They had all other stats the same with line infantry.


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Re: Stats
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2013, 10:10:05 pm »
This isn't Napoleonic wars though.

At first i tried to balance each unit, but it was impossible without making them all the same, so i just settled for not balancing the units but the factions instead. So a foot guard has all better stats than a militia for example, because they should. Although some units have unique stats, like the Franc tireurs and Zouaves being exceptionally fast.

How ever in shooting they are basically all the same except for Light infantry which is a little more accurate, and since shooting is the main form of combat the stat imbalance is less noticeable.

I did notice both of these mechanics in the game, and I have to say that you've implemented balance and the over-all game mechanics very well. It's a complete joy to play. It's not too balanced to make it a straight up stalemate, but the mobility of the battles makes them fast and a massive slugfest. Good show sir, good show.