put 58e on all time
its the only good regiment ive ever been in
Honestly I am hesitant to do so. I will explain why, because I think this is somewhat relevant to the LG discussion.
I want to introduce a 'homegrown' standard to the game.
What is Homegrown? Think of it like European Club Soccer. In alot of competitions in Europe, there is a required number of players on a team that has to have trained at the Club for a certain number of years before the age of 21. This means that clubs have to really make an effort to develop their players, and players developed at their club are that much more valuable to them. It keeps, for example, English teams English (to some extent), as it puts a limit on just how much imported talent you can really have.
I personally want to hold regiments on the HoF to this standard. I want regiments on the HoF to have a degree of talent that can truly be considered their 'own'. I am not asking for an entire roster of a regiment be trained from 0, or even most of it, just some of it. I personally think that is what separates a HoF regiment from a melee stack. Dominance is a requirement for HoF, sure, but any rando with enough stackage behind him for long enough can dominate for a year or so. However, it takes a truly special group of people to take nothing and make it something. To truly add something to the community, and I think nothing more valuable can be added to a competitive community than competitive players themselves. See, hall of fame regiments are special in that they don't need to be on the list for them to be remembered. The people they trained, the officers from them that went on to make other, great regiments, the lasting legacy they have had on the game - that's what I want from regiments on the HoF. All the regiments on this list can be said to have essentially founded competitive NW, with most of the players on the all-time and current lists being able to trace themselves back to them in one way or another. Even the regiment on the list with probably the smallest number of homegrown players, 9y, trained up enough players to competitive standard to embarrass most 'stacked' regiments from 2015 on-wards. I think that is the secret ingredient, the special sauce, of a HoF regiment. A sacred, lost art that has gradually been lost from NW along with its declining player base. Which is truly a shame - I have talked with many competitive players, and often the fondest memories of the game were learning how to play it alongside one's regiment.
Alot of people talk about the leaders of each of the regiments on the HoF, but while a good leader is necessary for a good regiment, and recruiting a few key good players does help, I think the real reason they got that far was their ability to produce competitive-quality players. The 12th is probably the best example of this - while they did recruit a few already great players that did help their success alongside truly superb leaders, the strength of the 12th was that practically their whole line was full of competitive-quality players, who all would probably have been 80+ on a 'current melee list' of the time, with most of them being trained up to that point by the regiment itself, and I think that's what makes the 12th truly legendary and something that will never be repeated.
Honestly, if the game weren't so dead nowadays, I think it would have been amazing to have a league with 'homegrown' rules. IE They would have to limit roster sizes/LB sizes to make regiments play those players and for the degree to which they were trained to actually have an impact. So like, maybe 10 vs. 10 only, with roster sizes capped at 20 (10 subs each), and a rule akin to like 'each team must have 3 players trained at their regiment for either 100 hours before they have reached 750 hours on Warband, with at least one of those players having to be played each round'.
Where am I going with this tho?
Simple; I don't think 58e meet that requirement. I won't put a number on how many homegrown players a regiment would need to qualify for HoF, cause I think putting numbers required for entry to HoF in general would probably be a mistake, but when I think of the 58e, I think 'not enough'. Alot of their success came from the corpse of an incredibly strong 3eVolt (See Grimsight for more information on 2014 3eVolt) and a few other already strong and competitive players from various places in the community.
