ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09

[Coco.]

Team Name: Cocotouch
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@ 1783914 #Twister
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[SpookyST]

Team Name: Guardians of Japan (GoJP)
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[Ciombwoy]

Team Name: POLSKA GUROM
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[Fietta]

6v6 Tournament Format Announcement

It was agreed by the admin team that the tournament will be based on round wins or 'pts' (rather than the classic match wins). The bracket in the draft tournament was done incorrectly, so even if it was based on round wins, it would be 'pts' first, however, it was set to 'pts diff', which caused the bracket to be completely incorrect. Basing it on pts would make sense as the more rounds you're winning, the better the team is playing, given the scenario below:

If a team loses their matches as follow:

4 - 5, 4 - 5, 4 - 5, 5 - 4 = 17pts (1 match win)

whilst a team wins the following:

5 - 4, 5 - 4, 0 - 5, 0 - 5 = 10pts (2 match wins)

In a standard format, the second team would proceed to the knockouts, however, the first team would get knocked out even though they played better but only lost the last round on all their matches.

If you don't like it, tough, but it's clear this is the better way of determining skill.

[BlitzkriegMBNW]

Yeah unfortunately I did set up the brackets wrong, didn’t realise till way later.

[cookie123]

Team Name: Spectres
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[Arch4ngel]

6v6 Tournament Format Announcement

It was agreed by the admin team that the tournament will be based on round wins or 'pts' (rather than the classic match wins). The bracket in the draft tournament was done incorrectly, so even if it was based on round wins, it would be 'pts' first, however, it was set to 'pts diff', which caused the bracket to be completely incorrect. Basing it on pts would make sense as the more rounds you're winning, the better the team is playing, given the scenario below:

If a team loses their matches as follow:

4 - 5, 4 - 5, 4 - 5, 5 - 4 = 17pts (1 match win)

whilst a team wins the following:

5 - 4, 5 - 4, 0 - 5, 0 - 5 = 10pts (2 match wins)

In a standard format, the second team would proceed to the knockouts, however, the first team would get knocked out even though they played better but only lost the last round on all their matches.

If you don't like it, tough, but it's clear this is the better way of determining skill.

wins > pts 
1st team lost a fucking match against 2nd one
look at our scores bruh

losers that cant beat team with 2 matches 0-5 0-5 cant go throw GS

[Arch4ngel]

Dont reinvent the wheel

Wins only matter not ur scores

If u dont like random matches - add the minimum points difference to win, instead of 5-4 u should win with 2 rounds advantage - 6-4 or 11-9 its the way to see more "mastery"

[Fralla8]

dont reinvent the wheel

[Scottish Unicorn]

6v6 Tournament Format Announcement

It was agreed by the admin team that the tournament will be based on round wins or 'pts' (rather than the classic match wins). The bracket in the draft tournament was done incorrectly, so even if it was based on round wins, it would be 'pts' first, however, it was set to 'pts diff', which caused the bracket to be completely incorrect. Basing it on pts would make sense as the more rounds you're winning, the better the team is playing, given the scenario below:

If a team loses their matches as follow:

4 - 5, 4 - 5, 4 - 5, 5 - 4 = 17pts (1 match win)

whilst a team wins the following:

5 - 4, 5 - 4, 0 - 5, 0 - 5 = 10pts (2 match wins)

In a standard format, the second team would proceed to the knockouts, however, the first team would get knocked out even though they played better but only lost the last round on all their matches.

If you don't like it, tough, but it's clear this is the better way of determining skill.

Team A loses every match 5v4 (16pts)
Team B wins 2 and then loses 5-3 every other game (16 pts)

Who goes through?

Surely it has to be wins then points?

[Tomppa]

dont reinvent the wheel

The modern wheel be a square smh

[Golden.]

6v6 Tournament Format Announcement

It was agreed by the admin team that the tournament will be based on round wins or 'pts' (rather than the classic match wins). The bracket in the draft tournament was done incorrectly, so even if it was based on round wins, it would be 'pts' first, however, it was set to 'pts diff', which caused the bracket to be completely incorrect. Basing it on pts would make sense as the more rounds you're winning, the better the team is playing, given the scenario below:

If a team loses their matches as follow:

4 - 5, 4 - 5, 4 - 5, 5 - 4 = 17pts (1 match win)

whilst a team wins the following:

5 - 4, 5 - 4, 0 - 5, 0 - 5 = 10pts (2 match wins)

In a standard format, the second team would proceed to the knockouts, however, the first team would get knocked out even though they played better but only lost the last round on all their matches.

If you don't like it, tough, but it's clear this is the better way of determining skill.

"better way of determining skill"

Very debatable point depending on the playstyles of some teams you may throw more rounds to achieve an aggressive victory, or in the first group stage matches when some people are still warming up to the teams chemistry on the day.

I also do feel this takes away from the importance of a 4-4 scenario or being on "Match point". Or even a comeback becomes less important as you don't really need to win to go through.

Although you may argue each round is more important it's nice to have a "cushion" of some rounds and in my opinion it makes it more thrilling when you do reach that 4-4 and are fighting to go through.

Your tournament you do you, however I don't see why now you are trying to change a normal precedent in tournaments, feels like a trying to be different moment for the sake of it.

[Desant]

6v6 Tournament Format Announcement

It was agreed by the admin team that the tournament will be based on round wins or 'pts' (rather than the classic match wins). The bracket in the draft tournament was done incorrectly, so even if it was based on round wins, it would be 'pts' first, however, it was set to 'pts diff', which caused the bracket to be completely incorrect. Basing it on pts would make sense as the more rounds you're winning, the better the team is playing, given the scenario below:

If a team loses their matches as follow:

4 - 5, 4 - 5, 4 - 5, 5 - 4 = 17pts (1 match win)

whilst a team wins the following:

5 - 4, 5 - 4, 0 - 5, 0 - 5 = 10pts (2 match wins)

In a standard format, the second team would proceed to the knockouts, however, the first team would get knocked out even though they played better but only lost the last round on all their matches.

If you don't like it, tough, but it's clear this is the better way of determining skill.

"better way of determining skill"

Very debatable point depending on the playstyles of some teams you may throw more rounds to achieve an aggressive victory, or in the first group stage matches when some people are still warming up to the teams chemistry on the day.

I also do feel this takes away from the importance of a 4-4 scenario or being on "Match point". Or even a comeback becomes less important as you don't really need to win to go through.

Although you may argue each round is more important it's nice to have a "cushion" of some rounds and in my opinion it makes it more thrilling when you do reach that 4-4 and are fighting to go through.

Your tournament you do you, however I don't see why now you are trying to change a normal precedent in tournaments, feels like a trying to be different moment for the sake of it.

I forgot to write about poke, which can decide the whole round or is it already called the skill?

[Barro112]

Wins>points

[tommyxd]

Wins>points