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Lines + Cav + Lights + optional Arty (min 60, 4 rounds) - (Last seasons format)
49 (28.5%)
2 Lines + Cav + Lights (min 50, 6 rounds)
68 (39.5%)
2 Lines + Cav (min 40, 8 rounds)
55 (32%)

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Re: | NWBC | Season 4 | Applications Open!
« Reply #90 on: August 08, 2020, 12:56:43 pm »
Quote from: Scottish Unicorn on August 08, 2020, 12:38:50 pm
When I said "your/you" I meant it in the sense of every regiment. Its called the generic you. Wikipedia article Here.

Now that my A in English was finally put to use, let us get back to the subject.

10 isn't enough. Maybe have 15 but lights only. No rifles. Cav could bring 15 but only hussars and heavy's? Plenty of balancing could be done. More players=More fun!

I am sure Kincaide has reached out to other regimental leaders regarding their preferences for the specifics of the tournament as he has done with us. This balancing with 10 specialists will ensure that there will still be a competitive nature to NWBC as there was in the last 2v2, both to remind you are line focused.
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Quote from: pieter on June 23, 2021, 12:09:45 am
So let’s just ignore someone like Maskman who knows next to nothing about leading and the capabilities of regiments performing well in a linebattle type of event.
To state that anyone on a “good day could beat the 77y/15thYR” is just a meme of its own, if that was the case why don't you beat the 77y or 15thYR then!?

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« Reply #91 on: August 08, 2020, 12:58:13 pm »
15 max lights is the standard for 90% of the linebattles yeah, but most the time it is way below and that is good in my opinion. Lines with 15-20 ppl are no match for 15 light bois, light cav (even max.15)  has some really hard time to get into charge if the leader of the lights knows how to lead. Maybe this are just my experience with 15 lights in a event, but 95% there where complaints after the event. (And no Uni, I think 45thN and Nr13 could send more than 20 lights bois (not Grens/Inf/Cav or what ever, real light bois) into the field ;) )

Also, let's do some math:

15 lights + 15 cav (if lights are allowed to bring 15 cav should definitely be allowed to do so as well) = 30 specials

50 (team minimum) - 30 (specials) = 20
20 / 2 (two lines) = 10 ( 10 ppl for each line -> against the rules)

60 (new and needed minimum per team) - 30 (specials) = 30
30 / 2 (two lines) = 15 (for one line, in my opinion not enjoyable for lines)

70 (in my view needed minimum per team) - 30 (specials) = 40
40 / 2 (two lines) = 20 (for each line, not perfect but better in my opinion)

Now we just have to find 7 team that can field atleast 70 ppl, we should be fine I hope.

Long bullshit short message, if 15 lights and cav gets allowed, I want arty (2 canons) and 90 minimum per team.
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« Reply #93 on: August 08, 2020, 01:04:07 pm »
Quote from: Nightwing on August 08, 2020, 12:58:13 pm
15 max lights is the standard for 90% of the linebattles yeah, but most the time it is way below and that is good in my opinion. Lines with 15-20 ppl are no match for 15 light bois, light cav (even max.15)  has some really hard time to get into charge if the leader of the lights knows how to lead. Maybe this are just my experience with 15 lights in a event, but 95% there where complaints after the event. (And no Uni, I think 45thN and Nr13 could send more than 20 lights bois (not Grens/Inf/Cav or what ever, real light bois) into the field ;) )

Also, let's do some math:

15 lights + 15 cav (if lights are allowed to bring 15 cav should definitely be allowed to do so as well) = 30 specials

50 (team minimum) - 30 (specials) = 20
20 / 2 (two lines) = 10 ( 10 ppl for each line -> against the rules)

60 (new and needed minimum per team) - 30 (specials) = 30
30 / 2 (two lines) = 15 (for one line, in my opinion not enjoyable for lines)

70 (in my view needed minimum per team) - 30 (specials) = 40
40 / 2 (two lines) = 20 (for each line, not perfect but better in my opinion)

Now we just have to find 7 team that can field atleast 70 ppl, we should be fine I hope.

Long bullshit short message, if 15 lights and cav gets allowed, I want arty (2 canons) and 90 minimum per team.
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Have to 100% agree with Nightwing. 10 Lights and Cav should be fine or the whole competitive character is destroyed.
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« Reply #94 on: August 08, 2020, 01:14:14 pm »
10 is simply too small for any normal sized regiment.
About the competitive character. Regardless of what Kincaid or some of you would want, this tournament is more of a casual/relaxed thing. That is not meant in a negative way at all, it is what makes it distinct and unlike any other normal line battle tournament. If we solely care about the competitive nature of the tournament, then we might as well just do a line only and be done with it. The specials is what makes it interesting and different, and is the sole reason we signed up for this competition in the first place.

Weakening those specials to the point where they are incapable of doing anything on their own is plain useless. It goes against the character of the tournament.
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« Reply #95 on: August 08, 2020, 01:20:15 pm »
The math only checks out if you bring 50. Some regiments here alone could bring 50 :)

This is meant to be a hybrid of a competiive tournament with a casual feel. 15 specials would add to the competitiveness, as you couldn't just crush them with your line. Lights could even play offensively, using guerrilla like tactics and harassing the line.


Quote from: 33rdKincaid on July 28, 2020, 11:46:26 am
The general concept of this tournament is to pitch large pre-arranged teams against each other, to apply a more competitive and coordinated atmosphere to otherwise typical NW

10 skirms? yes veri big, i am impress
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« Reply #96 on: August 08, 2020, 01:21:16 pm »
If ur not able to have an impact w/ 10-12 Cav/Light, the problem prolly isn't the unit but the leadership.
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« Reply #97 on: August 08, 2020, 01:29:25 pm »
Steam ID: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198008837363/
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« Reply #98 on: August 08, 2020, 01:34:23 pm »
Quote from: Chri on August 08, 2020, 01:21:16 pm
If ur not able to have an impact w/ 10-12 Cav/Light, the problem prolly isn't the unit but the leadership.

Although true to an extent, its more fun with more men  ;)
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« Reply #99 on: August 08, 2020, 01:36:49 pm »
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Quote from: StockholmDE on August 08, 2020, 01:04:07 pm
Quote from: Nightwing on August 08, 2020, 12:58:13 pm
15 max lights is the standard for 90% of the linebattles yeah, but most the time it is way below and that is good in my opinion. Lines with 15-20 ppl are no match for 15 light bois, light cav (even max.15)  has some really hard time to get into charge if the leader of the lights knows how to lead. Maybe this are just my experience with 15 lights in a event, but 95% there where complaints after the event. (And no Uni, I think 45thN and Nr13 could send more than 20 lights bois (not Grens/Inf/Cav or what ever, real light bois) into the field ;) )

Also, let's do some math:

15 lights + 15 cav (if lights are allowed to bring 15 cav should definitely be allowed to do so as well) = 30 specials

50 (team minimum) - 30 (specials) = 20
20 / 2 (two lines) = 10 ( 10 ppl for each line -> against the rules)

60 (new and needed minimum per team) - 30 (specials) = 30
30 / 2 (two lines) = 15 (for one line, in my opinion not enjoyable for lines)

70 (in my view needed minimum per team) - 30 (specials) = 40
40 / 2 (two lines) = 20 (for each line, not perfect but better in my opinion)

Now we just have to find 7 team that can field atleast 70 ppl, we should be fine I hope.

Long bullshit short message, if 15 lights and cav gets allowed, I want arty (2 canons) and 90 minimum per team.
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Have to 100% agree with Nightwing. 10 Lights and Cav should be fine or the whole competitive character is destroyed.
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No, it‘s literally the other way around: having max. 10 for the other units would hurt the spirit of this event, by reducing it to a NWL with support units instead of fielding large teams composed of different units all with a special purpose and parameters.
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« Reply #100 on: August 08, 2020, 01:47:06 pm »
Quote from: Scottish Unicorn on August 08, 2020, 01:20:15 pm
The math only checks out if you bring 50. Some regiments here alone could bring 50 :)
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Quote from: Shadey on August 07, 2020, 05:45:13 pm
Group Name: TBD
Group Contacts:

[28th] Shadey
[56e] Aggofan
[5to] Chicken
[2e] Chri

Regiment #1 Name: 28th (North Gloucestershire) Regiment of Foot
Estimated Attendance: 15-25
Preferred Class: Line
Contacts: Shadey & Movement

Regiment #2 Name: 56e Régiment d'Infanterie de Ligne
Estimated Attendance: 20-30
Preferred Class: Line & Lights
Contacts: Aggofan & Salakien

Regiment #3 Name: 5to Regimiento de la Corona
Estimated Attendance: 15-20
Preferred Class: Line
Contacts: Chicken & Dume

Regiment #4 Name: 2ème Régiment de Hussards
Estimated Attendance: 10
Preferred Class: Hussars
Contacts: Chri & Lufter

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Quote from: Mitchell on August 07, 2020, 06:03:56 pm
Group Name: TBA
Group Contacts (2x Steam ID's):

Maskman & Mitchell & Nova & Faser

Regiment #1 Name: 45th Nottinghamshire
Estimated Attendance: 35-50
Preferred Class: Line, Lights
Contacts (Steam ID): Nova, Maskman, Mitchell

Regiment #2 Name: Infanterie Regiment Nr.13
Estimated Attendance: 20-25
Preferred Class: Line
Contacts (Steam ID): Nightwing,  Faser

Regiment #3 Name: TBA
Estimated Attendance: 8-10
Preferred Class: Cav
Contacts (Steam ID): TBA

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Quote from: 45e_Syrcrim on August 07, 2020, 06:34:00 pm
Group Name: IVe Corps d'Armée Français
Group Contacts (2x Steam ID's): TBA

Regiment #1 Name:  45e Régiment d'Infanterie de Ligne
Estimated Attendance: 20
Preferred Class: French 45e
Contacts (Steam ID): TBA

Regiment #2 Name: 2e Régiment de Grenadiers de la Garde
Estimated Attendance: 10
Preferred Class: French guard
Contacts (Steam ID): TBA

Regiment #3 Name: 31e Régiment de Voltigeurs de la Garde
Estimated Attendance: 10-15
Preferred Class: French light
Contacts (Steam ID): TBA

Regiment #4 Name: 6e Régiment de Hussards
Estimated Attendance: 10-15
Preferred Class: French cavalry
Contacts (Steam ID): TBA

Team ID Roster
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Quote from: Rikkert on August 07, 2020, 06:41:36 pm
Group Name: 77y and Friends
Group Contacts (2x Steam ID's):
Main Contact: Henkka
Secondary Contact: El_Presidente
Secondary Contact: Rikkert

Regiment #1 Name: 15th_YR
Estimated Attendance: 15
Preferred Class: Lights
Contacts (Steam ID):
Gi
Rikkert

Regiment #2 Name: 77y
Estimated Attendance: 15-20
Preferred Class: Line
Contacts (Steam ID):
Henkka

Regiment #3 Name: 19th
Estimated Attendance: 20-30
Preferred Class: Line, Cav
Contacts (Steam ID):
El_Presidente

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TBA
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Quote from: 33rdKincaid on August 07, 2020, 09:48:56 pm
Group Name: TBD
Group Contacts: [33rd]Spoons, [92nd]Wolffe, [33rd]Kincaid

Regiment #1 Name: 33rd Regiment of Foot
Estimated Attendance: 35
Preferred Class: Line, Lights, Cav
Contacts: [33rd]Spoons, [33rd]Kincaid

Regiment #2 Name: 92nd Regiment of Foot
Estimated Attendance: 20-30
Preferred Class: Line
Contacts: [92nd]Wolffe

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TBC
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" some regiments" more like 45thN I guess  ??? :o

So, we want something between chilled roleplay (Rikkert) and competitiveness (Uni). What is better:

1. An event centered around half a team playing specials, what makes lines more a tool for running throw enemy guerrilla fire during maneuvers.
2. An event centered around 3/5 of the team playing line (mininum), resulting that lights and cav will use as tools.

This is just my prediction, but I think option 1 will lead into a big camp event while 2 probably would give more opportunites for charges. But who likes to charge lol
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« Reply #101 on: August 08, 2020, 01:50:22 pm »
Group Name: TBA
Group Contacts (2x Steam ID's):

Maskman & Mitchell & Nova & Faser &
DeLaBedoyère

Regiment #1 Name: 45th Nottinghamshire
Estimated Attendance: 40-50
Preferred Class: Line, Lights
Contacts (Steam ID): Nova, Maskman, Mitchell

Regiment #2 Name: Infanterie Regiment Nr.13
Estimated Attendance: 20-25
Preferred Class: Line
Contacts (Steam ID): Nightwing,  Faser

Regiment #3 Name: 1er
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Preferred Class: Cav
Contacts (Steam ID): DeLaBedoyère


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Update on mitchells previous sign up post with a completed team
« Last Edit: August 14, 2020, 02:07:18 pm by maskmanmarks »
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Quote from: pieter on June 23, 2021, 12:09:45 am
So let’s just ignore someone like Maskman who knows next to nothing about leading and the capabilities of regiments performing well in a linebattle type of event.
To state that anyone on a “good day could beat the 77y/15thYR” is just a meme of its own, if that was the case why don't you beat the 77y or 15thYR then!?

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just make it a chill linebattle tournament with a touch a competitive like last NWBC
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« Reply #103 on: August 08, 2020, 01:54:47 pm »
Quote from: Dokletian on August 08, 2020, 01:36:49 pm
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Quote from: StockholmDE on August 08, 2020, 01:04:07 pm
Quote from: Nightwing on August 08, 2020, 12:58:13 pm
15 max lights is the standard for 90% of the linebattles yeah, but most the time it is way below and that is good in my opinion. Lines with 15-20 ppl are no match for 15 light bois, light cav (even max.15)  has some really hard time to get into charge if the leader of the lights knows how to lead. Maybe this are just my experience with 15 lights in a event, but 95% there where complaints after the event. (And no Uni, I think 45thN and Nr13 could send more than 20 lights bois (not Grens/Inf/Cav or what ever, real light bois) into the field ;) )

Also, let's do some math:

15 lights + 15 cav (if lights are allowed to bring 15 cav should definitely be allowed to do so as well) = 30 specials

50 (team minimum) - 30 (specials) = 20
20 / 2 (two lines) = 10 ( 10 ppl for each line -> against the rules)

60 (new and needed minimum per team) - 30 (specials) = 30
30 / 2 (two lines) = 15 (for one line, in my opinion not enjoyable for lines)

70 (in my view needed minimum per team) - 30 (specials) = 40
40 / 2 (two lines) = 20 (for each line, not perfect but better in my opinion)

Now we just have to find 7 team that can field atleast 70 ppl, we should be fine I hope.

Long bullshit short message, if 15 lights and cav gets allowed, I want arty (2 canons) and 90 minimum per team.
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Have to 100% agree with Nightwing. 10 Lights and Cav should be fine or the whole competitive character is destroyed.
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No, it‘s literally the other way around: having max. 10 for the other units would hurt the spirit of this event, by reducing it to a NWL with support units instead of fielding large teams composed of different units all with a special purpose and parameters.
But to take out arty is fine? This event is tries something new with new rules, so it can evolve and still goes in 2020.
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« Reply #104 on: August 08, 2020, 01:59:16 pm »
Quote from: Nightwing on August 08, 2020, 01:47:06 pm
Quote from: Scottish Unicorn on August 08, 2020, 01:20:15 pm
The math only checks out if you bring 50. Some regiments here alone could bring 50 :)
" some regiments" more like 45thN I guess  ??? :o

So, we want something between chilled roleplay (Rikkert) and competitiveness (Uni). What is better:

1. An event centered around half a team playing specials, what makes lines more a tool for running throw enemy guerrilla fire during maneuvers.
2. An event centered around 3/5 of the team playing line (mininum), resulting that lights and cav will use as tools.

This is just my prediction, but I think option 1 will lead into a big camp event while 2 probably would give more opportunites for charges. But who likes to charge lol

Personally I think 92nd underselling ourselves but thats a different issue.

There still will be charges lmao. No arty so no need to hide below hills. Just gives specialists the chance to actually survive a fight, you know?

Quote from: Vegi. on August 08, 2020, 01:51:56 pm
just make it a chill linebattle tournament with a touch a competitive like last NWBC

Thank you vegi, very cool!

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