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Tier 1 (https://i.imgur.com/qTMdkRL.png) 100 Gibby(https://i.imgur.com/R5wa8jb.png) 99 Maximou (https://cdn1.iconfinder.com/data/icons/famfamfam_flag_icons/by.png) 88 Grey_Warden (https://i.imgur.com/qTMdkRL.png) 86 fatkoala | (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm6.static.flickr.com%2F5104%2F5621140148_36b6ed98d2_o.png&hash=3266b17727003f797981d0df0f57585b080bc10d) | Tier 2 (https://cdn1.iconfinder.com/data/icons/famfamfam_flag_icons/sk.png) 84 Hokej(https://i.imgur.com/R5wa8jb.png) 84 Tiberias (https://i.imgur.com/oKmSTZw.png) 82 Ciiges (https://i.imgur.com/ofwQxPm.png) 77 Eison (https://i.imgur.com/qTMdkRL.png) 77 Hursty (https://i.imgur.com/qTMdkRL.png) 76 Dave (https://i.imgur.com/0aYfwo0.png) 76 TabY (https://i.imgur.com/qTMdkRL.png) 75 Herishey (https://i.imgur.com/R5wa8jb.png) 75 Drake (https://i.imgur.com/qTMdkRL.png) 75 Normanguy (https://i.imgur.com/EBrAGJA.png) 74 Kore (https://i.imgur.com/R5wa8jb.png) 74 Zeyden (https://i.imgur.com/qTMdkRL.png) 74 Shadey (https://i.imgur.com/qTMdkRL.png) 74 Python (https://i.imgur.com/R5wa8jb.png) 73 Thorvic (https://i.imgur.com/R5wa8jb.png) 73 Remao (https://i.imgur.com/R5wa8jb.png) 73 Ouranos (https://i.imgur.com/R5wa8jb.png) 72 Cr3a (https://i.imgur.com/KqCeH5p.png) 72 Gi (https://i.imgur.com/0aYfwo0.png) 72 Dokletian (https://i.ibb.co/8bHRNpV/Switzerland.png) 72 Wulfstan (https://i.imgur.com/dOFmLhS.png) 72 Ivan (https://i.imgur.com/qTMdkRL.png) 71 DOMI (https://i.imgur.com/R5wa8jb.png) 70 DeLaBedoyere (https://i.imgur.com/fMBmHUY.png) 70 Caucasian (https://i.imgur.com/0aYfwo0.png) 70 Blader (https://i.imgur.com/dOFmLhS.png) 70 Golden (https://i.imgur.com/0fRdU6f.png) 70 Shogun | (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm6.static.flickr.com%2F5104%2F5621140148_36b6ed98d2_o.png&hash=3266b17727003f797981d0df0f57585b080bc10d) | Tier 3 (https://i.imgur.com/KqCeH5p.png) 69 Stannis(https://i.imgur.com/oKmSTZw.png) 69 Ismar (https://i.imgur.com/dOFmLhS.png) 69 Lonedoge (https://i.imgur.com/I85uBSw.png) 68 EpicPizza (https://i.imgur.com/R5wa8jb.png) 67 Troister (https://i.imgur.com/JIleiRt.png) 67 MarxeiL (https://i.imgur.com/eHLjyhv.png) 65 Retamar (https://i.imgur.com/hXCLCjo.png) 64 Zappy |
Nock for 99
Sexi list tho :-*
Ragni would trash anyone on that list eyes closed
Ragni would trash anyone on that list eyes closed
Is this based on GF or duel?Duel I guess, makes it funnier ;D ;D
Is this based on GF or duel?
(first off:) wtf
secondly, why are there some native people when it’s a 'NW' list? playing a few tournament over the years within this community doesn’t automatically make you a NW sword legend but a native player who switches from time to time; so whether change the list or put 'NW' out of the name
also, lmao why are there just inf players? (apart from me & Ciiges)
most cav people (who practice sword fighting almost daily) would beat most inf players on this list, just saying
(first off:) wtf
secondly, why are there some native people when it’s a 'NW' list? playing a few tournament over the years within this community doesn’t automatically make you a NW sword legend but a native player who switches from time to time; so whether change the list or put 'NW' out of the name
also, lmao why are there just inf players? (apart from me & Ciiges)
most cav people (who practice sword fighting almost daily) would beat most inf players on this list, just saying
If you think I missed someone out that should be on here tell me tyty.
secondly, why are there some native people when it’s a 'NW' list? playing a few tournament over the years within this community doesn’t automatically make you a NW sword legend but a native player who switches from time to time; so whether change the list or put 'NW' out of the name
also, lmao why are there just inf players? (apart from me & Ciiges)
most cav people (who practice sword fighting almost daily) would beat most inf players on this list, just saying
Gibby has won the last NW sword tournaments. I agree it doesn't necessarily mean much as it was mostly sword + bayonets format, but for a lack of other relevant data, you can't use much else to rate players. People who disagree with Gibby rating himself at the top should just ask him for a duel and find out by themselves. The next 3v3 full sword tournament should also give a more accurate picture to rate players.
there atleast a dozen of players which I recall being rather excelent sword players but these players were also unsurprisingly top cav players meaning they were just complete players and knew how to fight mounted and dismounted wise.
You might have misunderstood me.SpoilerGibby has won the last NW sword tournaments. I agree it doesn't necessarily mean much as it was mostly sword + bayonets format, but for a lack of other relevant data, you can't use much else to rate players. People who disagree with Gibby rating himself at the top should just ask him for a duel and find out by themselves. The next 3v3 full sword tournament should also give a more accurate picture to rate players.[close]
I don’t disagree with Gibby rating himself 100/100 in his own list - I’ve seen him play once or twice and I’m sure in comparison to the other players on there he makes a very good figure. But in my opinion, the interesting thing about making a NW sword list is to actually rate people who come from NW since sword-fighting on its own has never been a big thing in the nw community (at least not as prominent as bayo or cav) and putting native players on there/the top - which is the most obvious choice since in that module swords have a way more prominent status and therefore the players are overall better - leads in my opinion to this list being very boring.
(I know it’s your list - just my humble opinion)I only had the top tier cavalry players in my mind since, as you said yourself, there are quite many of them.SpoilerQuotethere atleast a dozen of players which I recall being rather excelent sword players but these players were also unsurprisingly top cav players meaning they were just complete players and knew how to fight mounted and dismounted wise.[close]
don’t want to be the guy only complaining without bringing anything to the table, so I suggest some names that popped in my mind:prob add some moreRemao [French]
OuRaNos [French]
Soartex [French]
Blader [German]
Thorvic [Rench]
DeLaBedoyere [French]
Caucasian [Azerbaijan]
Stannis [Scottish][close]
Also what is this 72 rating jesus christ, look at some of these people above me
So Gibby over me, while having won 0 sword duel tourney on NW (i won the last two), and also i add better statistics than you on the finals of the last sword & bayo tourneywatch the vidSpoiler(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/773971362278377198/FF3DB61F208B041A31763E247D0C532DD89006C1/?imw=1024&imh=576&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=true)[close]
The 3v3 will settle this 8)
I remember chriseh beat gi in a sword duel that one timeGreatest moment in his NW career
one for the grandchildren i reckonI remember chriseh beat gi in a sword duel that one timeGreatest moment in his NW career
imagine making a list just to put yourself top, no matter how good you are... smh for shame.
imagine making a list just to put yourself top, no matter how good you are... smh for shame.
Joins the team that has been slamming people in tournaments
Wins the tournament
Lmao im best NW
I know fuck all about swords, and I'm shit at it. But I'm sure there are quite a few cav players who would give you a run for your money.
So Gibby over me, while having won 0 sword duel tourney on NW (i won the last two), and also i add better statistics than you on the finals of the last sword & bayo tourneySpoiler(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/773971362278377198/FF3DB61F208B041A31763E247D0C532DD89006C1/?imw=1024&imh=576&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=true)[close]
Ragni would trash anyone on that list eyes closed
I had some help from a few people who know the broader NW community better than I do, but I wasn't able to add a lot of those cav players because I don't know where they would fit in. Add me on Steam (https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198024747179/) and we can discuss where to put them in. Also, there are not many "Native players" on this list; Maximou and I have both taken part in a fair number of NW tournaments (Maximou more than I) and I have been active in a regiment for a while now. Sure I'm still a "Native player", but I think I've played NW enough to qualify to be on the list.Sure but I'm sorry, players such as Eison, Me and Ivan should be placed higher than some of the current players above us, not gonna point out certain individuals but "Whoever" has helped you hasn't done the best of jobs. I'm sure players not including Me Ivan and Eison are also put lower than they should be. I guess the next sword tournament will change ratings as Tardet said.
Let me duel Kore, he will get 7-0'd.Ye but heri in ur sword tournament kamikaze lost 5-4 to tz0 and maximou was borderline useless that match like he had no impact while when we played Caza tib was playing smart af and was dominating the mid out of intelligence rather than skill. Now, I haven’t seen gibby in an NW tournament but from what I have heard he probs better than maximou.
Also Maximou in terms of how useful he is to a team in the last few sword tourneys on NW he has definitely been more useful than you Gibby.
i see a lot of bad faith Gibby.... for the moment i'm pretty sure Maximou is better than you on native and not only on the ludus but in tournament and spécially in 1V1.
Native and NW are not same you can have the best sword skill but if you dont know the NW meta GF meta etc.. you are totaly shit and same with every pro native player who come on NW scene.
Also in 5V5 sword bayo tournament, 10-9 is not a river score and at 9-9 it's just luck. Say i'm better than Max because i won a match 10-9 with a shit score it's pretty funny.
i see a lot of bad faith Gibby.... for the moment i'm pretty sure Maximou is better than you on native and not only on the ludus but in tournament and spécially in 1V1.
Native and NW are not same you can have the best sword skill but if you dont know the NW meta GF meta etc.. you are totaly shit and same with every pro native player who come on NW scene.
Also in 5V5 sword bayo tournament, 10-9 is not a river score and at 9-9 it's just luck. Say i'm better than Max because i won a match 10-9 with a shit score it's pretty funny.
i see a lot of bad faith Gibby.... for the moment i'm pretty sure Maximou is better than you on native and not only on the ludus but in tournament and spécially in 1V1.
Not having Erik at the top, yikes.
People arent personally attacking you. People are just stating that it's weird that you'd put yourself at the top without knowing other NW sword players well enough. Yeah you've won those two tournaments. But that was with Proudboys and I believe with Chimpz for the other one?
It's just a bit odd to make a list of a community when you don't know a huge part of it (the cav scene). And you've only really 'proven' yourself in those two tournaments where the sword player can win without having much impact (not saying you didnt have any impact). It's like if I joined the best cav reg right now and then won the next cav tournament by just focussing on not dying, whilst they carry me. I wouldn't suddenly make a cav list and claim that I'm now the best cav player.
People arent personally attacking you. People are just stating that it's weird that you'd put yourself at the top without knowing other NW sword players well enough. Yeah you've won those two tournaments. But that was with Proudboys and I believe with Chimpz for the other one?
It's just a bit odd to make a list of a community when you don't know a huge part of it (the cav scene). And you've only really 'proven' yourself in those two tournaments where the sword player can win without having much impact (not saying you didnt have any impact). It's like if I joined the best cav reg right now and then won the next cav tournament by just focussing on not dying, whilst they carry me. I wouldn't suddenly make a cav list and claim that I'm now the best cav player.
Having a sword as their primary weapon doesn’t translate to them being good with it. I’ve come across several cav players who are great when they’re on a horse, but absolute ass in dismounted duelling.
I mean when I first started native I got a lot of NW cav players to trial or join my team as cav, when doing trainings in general inf onlys they was not so good and some of them were highly rated in the cav scene here on NW.SpoilerPeople arent personally attacking you. People are just stating that it's weird that you'd put yourself at the top without knowing other NW sword players well enough. Yeah you've won those two tournaments. But that was with Proudboys and I believe with Chimpz for the other one?
It's just a bit odd to make a list of a community when you don't know a huge part of it (the cav scene). And you've only really 'proven' yourself in those two tournaments where the sword player can win without having much impact (not saying you didnt have any impact). It's like if I joined the best cav reg right now and then won the next cav tournament by just focussing on not dying, whilst they carry me. I wouldn't suddenly make a cav list and claim that I'm now the best cav player.
Having a sword as their primary weapon doesn’t translate to them being good with it. I’ve come across several cav players who are great when they’re on a horse, but absolute ass in dismounted duelling.[close]
that‘s something very rare, after all these years I couldn’t name an excellent cav player who‘s trash on the ground tbh
but I get your point, playing cav doesn‘t always automatically makes you better - even though in most cases it helps tremendously
Sword duel tournament when?I was looking at hosting a NW only one potentially. To see who is the best sword duelist on the NW side.
No not another maximou vs hokej 3 hour long sword duel final.Sword duel tournament when?I was looking at hosting a NW only one potentially. To see who is the best sword duelist on the NW side.
But idk because 3v3 sword and I was thinking of doing a 7v7 with two swords.
I just said a NW only one (as in no native players).No not another maximou vs hokej 3 hour long sword duel final.Sword duel tournament when?I was looking at hosting a NW only one potentially. To see who is the best sword duelist on the NW side.
But idk because 3v3 sword and I was thinking of doing a 7v7 with two swords.
Still boring :)I just said a NW only one (as in no native players).No not another maximou vs hokej 3 hour long sword duel final.Sword duel tournament when?I was looking at hosting a NW only one potentially. To see who is the best sword duelist on the NW side.
But idk because 3v3 sword and I was thinking of doing a 7v7 with two swords.
I just said a NW only one (as in no native players).
just answering ur 3rd point Gibby
you know people play tournaments for fun and because they just like playing tournaments right ? not only because they want to win. like, for example, I know I wouldn't be able to win a duel tournament given my actual melee skill and given the fact there are way better players around, but that doesn't mean it's meaningless or useless to host one just because we all know that XXX would win
otherwise, it would have been meaningless to host duel tournaments back in the days when Evanovic was trashing everyone and was a finalist almost all the time
but people still hosted duel tournaments
and players still signed up to them
Gibby acting like he's completed the game
I already had most those ideas, I just like to spread sword tourneys out a bit, though I do prefer them.I think a sword duel tournament would be boring for a couple of reasons:
1) Predictability - The final would be me vs Maximou and everyone knows it; not really interesting if everyone knows what's gonna happen
2) Sword duel doesn't give anything unique from 1h duels on Native, despite the fact that NW has the potential to offer different scenarios
3) It doesn't offer much for actual NW players who don't really have a chance of winning
nvm herishey said this:I just said a NW only one (as in no native players).
DON'T DO IT CUZ THEN I CAN'T PLAY WTF
That said, more sword tournaments is a good idea and I'm glad we have a couple coming up. The 3v3 one with 1 Native player per team is interesting and makes sure the focus is still on "NW players" and a 7v7 with 2 swords per team achieves the same goal. I'd be interested in seeing more tournaments like 1 sword + 1 bayonet 2v2 or 2 swords + 2 bayonets 4v4. JUST SOME IDEAS HERISHEY MAKE IT HAPPEN
2v2 sword or a duel one, but I don't think it should be restricted to only NW players..
I have no issue with that in general, I just think it'd be interesting personally to see who'd win out of NW players.2v2 sword or a duel one, but I don't think it should be restricted to only NW players..
Exactly, what's the point to have a duel tournament if the bests are not allowed to play even though they are not from NW, at the end it is the same game. I'd rather lose 7-0 vs Gibby than win a Tournament without the best sword players, I'm not saying i'll win it though, it is just a way to prove my point.
Same goes for the bayo we all know the next winner of the duel tournament hosted by smylie will be Extazz or Drake, but having the chance to fight one of them (gibby and max included) will only make you better or at least you will gain experience from the duels.
It happened to me in 2013 where I reached a quarter final of a NW duel tournament, I lost vs Evanovic 3-0, he out played me but I learnt from those duels and it made be better.
That's my opinion but I also understand that it can be boring that we already know what will be the final, but in my case I just want to fight to best.
I have no issue with that in general, I just think it'd be interesting personally to see who'd win out of NW players.2v2 sword or a duel one, but I don't think it should be restricted to only NW players..
Exactly, what's the point to have a duel tournament if the bests are not allowed to play even though they are not from NW, at the end it is the same game. I'd rather lose 7-0 vs Gibby than win a Tournament without the best sword players, I'm not saying i'll win it though, it is just a way to prove my point.
Same goes for the bayo we all know the next winner of the duel tournament hosted by smylie will be Extazz or Drake, but having the chance to fight one of them (gibby and max included) will only make you better or at least you will gain experience from the duels.
It happened to me in 2013 where I reached a quarter final of a NW duel tournament, I lost vs Evanovic 3-0, he out played me but I learnt from those duels and it made be better.
That's my opinion but I also understand that it can be boring that we already know what will be the final, but in my case I just want to fight to best.
Maybe 4 years ago, I reckon you'd beat him now.I have no issue with that in general, I just think it'd be interesting personally to see who'd win out of NW players.2v2 sword or a duel one, but I don't think it should be restricted to only NW players..
Exactly, what's the point to have a duel tournament if the bests are not allowed to play even though they are not from NW, at the end it is the same game. I'd rather lose 7-0 vs Gibby than win a Tournament without the best sword players, I'm not saying i'll win it though, it is just a way to prove my point.
Same goes for the bayo we all know the next winner of the duel tournament hosted by smylie will be Extazz or Drake, but having the chance to fight one of them (gibby and max included) will only make you better or at least you will gain experience from the duels.
It happened to me in 2013 where I reached a quarter final of a NW duel tournament, I lost vs Evanovic 3-0, he out played me but I learnt from those duels and it made be better.
That's my opinion but I also understand that it can be boring that we already know what will be the final, but in my case I just want to fight to best.
Easy ClaSh
Imagine being last in a list where Herigay is at 78 ahahaWhy are you posting here, shouldn't you be drinking?
Imagine being last in a list where Herigay is at 78 ahahatrue
Maybe 4 years ago, I reckon you'd beat him now.I have no issue with that in general, I just think it'd be interesting personally to see who'd win out of NW players.2v2 sword or a duel one, but I don't think it should be restricted to only NW players..
Exactly, what's the point to have a duel tournament if the bests are not allowed to play even though they are not from NW, at the end it is the same game. I'd rather lose 7-0 vs Gibby than win a Tournament without the best sword players, I'm not saying i'll win it though, it is just a way to prove my point.
Same goes for the bayo we all know the next winner of the duel tournament hosted by smylie will be Extazz or Drake, but having the chance to fight one of them (gibby and max included) will only make you better or at least you will gain experience from the duels.
It happened to me in 2013 where I reached a quarter final of a NW duel tournament, I lost vs Evanovic 3-0, he out played me but I learnt from those duels and it made be better.
That's my opinion but I also understand that it can be boring that we already know what will be the final, but in my case I just want to fight to best.
Easy ClaSh
Imagine being last in a list where Herigay is at 78 ahahaI trashed you like 8 times in a row last time we sword dueled kid!
SpoilerMaybe 4 years ago, I reckon you'd beat him now.I have no issue with that in general, I just think it'd be interesting personally to see who'd win out of NW players.2v2 sword or a duel one, but I don't think it should be restricted to only NW players..
Exactly, what's the point to have a duel tournament if the bests are not allowed to play even though they are not from NW, at the end it is the same game. I'd rather lose 7-0 vs Gibby than win a Tournament without the best sword players, I'm not saying i'll win it though, it is just a way to prove my point.
Same goes for the bayo we all know the next winner of the duel tournament hosted by smylie will be Extazz or Drake, but having the chance to fight one of them (gibby and max included) will only make you better or at least you will gain experience from the duels.
It happened to me in 2013 where I reached a quarter final of a NW duel tournament, I lost vs Evanovic 3-0, he out played me but I learnt from those duels and it made be better.
That's my opinion but I also understand that it can be boring that we already know what will be the final, but in my case I just want to fight to best.
Easy ClaSh[close]
Tbh the only people who would beat me on the list are the pure native players
Imagine wanting the effort of blocking more than 2 ways smh nerds
Imagine wanting the effort of blocking more than 2 ways smh nerds
gi is shit with swords ::)))99Shut up I was hoping I could bs myself to the top
Tardet should be on the list :)
wtf have i done to get my name on this list lol
As FSE already stated with other lists the thread owner does not HAVE to remove you from their lists. But we would prefer if you follow user requests, though it is not mandatory.I ask Gibby, of course if he doesn't want it is his choice, but I'd still prefer to be removed
wtf have i done to get my name on this list lol
uuf my bad I read something wrong from a previous tournament
I should be above herishey I mean look at him only teamkilling me and dying to tardet yesterdayDying to Tardet? Bitch please.
I heard you still got PTSD from my shitty holds.I should be above herishey I mean look at him only teamkilling me and dying to tardet yesterdayDying to Tardet? Bitch please.
It does seem like you are pulling these "ratings" out of your ass
I ask Gibby, of course if he doesn't want it is his choice, but I'd still prefer to be removed
It does seem like you are pulling these "ratings" out of your ass
Most of them are based on my personal experience with a player and how I think they shape up against me, but for those that I haven't played against I have had to take the opinions of other people at face value.I ask Gibby, of course if he doesn't want it is his choice, but I'd still prefer to be removed
I don't mind removing you if there's an actual reason for it other than that you don't like your rating. If you think you're rated too low all you have to do is beat the people I've rated above you and give me proof of it, not that complicated.
If you think you're rated too low all you have to do is beat the people I've rated above you and give me proof of it, not that complicated.
which NW server is thatIf you think you're rated too low all you have to do is beat the people I've rated above you and give me proof of it, not that complicated.Spoiler(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/934964008672298865/E00427752F14D2DE1467F9AB1CE35D587F44B8A9/?imw=1024&imh=575&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=true)[close]
No seriously, I can't see myself asking FT7 to people to above them in a list, that's your opinion anyway
The one with the big swords and stuffwhich NW server is thatIf you think you're rated too low all you have to do is beat the people I've rated above you and give me proof of it, not that complicated.Spoiler(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/934964008672298865/E00427752F14D2DE1467F9AB1CE35D587F44B8A9/?imw=1024&imh=575&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=true)[close]
No seriously, I can't see myself asking FT7 to people to above them in a list, that's your opinion anyway
It does seem like you are pulling these "ratings" out of your ass
Most of them are based on my personal experience with a player and how I think they shape up against me, but for those that I haven't played against I have had to take the opinions of other people at face value.I ask Gibby, of course if he doesn't want it is his choice, but I'd still prefer to be removed
I don't mind removing you if there's an actual reason for it other than that you don't like your rating. If you think you're rated too low all you have to do is beat the people I've rated above you and give me proof of it, not that complicated.
Indeed I don't like the list, I feel it's like you're putting your friend above everyone else, how can Eison be below people who take 7-0 from him and who have never done a GF in their lives, there are people in this list who are rated far too high, while they are just good GF players who take 7-0 from the native players on this list, the Native players on this list know how to play GF and shouldn't be so low, but it's your list so you do what you wantIf you think you're rated too low all you have to do is beat the people I've rated above you and give me proof of it, not that complicated.Spoiler(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/934964008672298865/E00427752F14D2DE1467F9AB1CE35D587F44B8A9/?imw=1024&imh=575&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=true)[close]
No seriously, I can't see myself asking FT7 to people to be above them in a list, that's your opinion anyway
2 hander hahahahaahahIt does seem like you are pulling these "ratings" out of your ass
Most of them are based on my personal experience with a player and how I think they shape up against me, but for those that I haven't played against I have had to take the opinions of other people at face value.I ask Gibby, of course if he doesn't want it is his choice, but I'd still prefer to be removed
I don't mind removing you if there's an actual reason for it other than that you don't like your rating. If you think you're rated too low all you have to do is beat the people I've rated above you and give me proof of it, not that complicated.
Indeed I don't like the list, I feel it's like you're putting your friend above everyone else, how can Eison be below people who take 7-0 from him and who have never done a GF in their lives, there are people in this list who are rated far too high, while they are just good GF players who take 7-0 from the native players on this list, the Native players on this list know how to play GF and shouldn't be so low, but it's your list so you do what you wantIf you think you're rated too low all you have to do is beat the people I've rated above you and give me proof of it, not that complicated.Spoiler(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/934964008672298865/E00427752F14D2DE1467F9AB1CE35D587F44B8A9/?imw=1024&imh=575&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=true)[close]
No seriously, I can't see myself asking FT7 to people to be above them in a list, that's your opinion anyway
half these people have never had a sword in their hand
In terms of NW I've not played with sword or seen very few of these guys actively play with sword in NW. If you talking about native its a different story.half these people have never had a sword in their hand
Please tell me who on this list has never used a sword
In terms of NW I've not played with sword or seen very few of these guys actively play with sword in NW. If you talking about native its a different story.half these people have never had a sword in their hand
Please tell me who on this list has never used a sword
It's fine, don't worry about it. I just can't remember myself using a swordIn terms of NW I've not played with sword or seen very few of these guys actively play with sword in NW. If you talking about native its a different story.half these people have never had a sword in their hand
Please tell me who on this list has never used a sword
Every person on this list is someone that I have either personally played against or seen play with a sword in NW or is a cavalry player that I've been told is good with a sword. If there is someone in particular you are referring to that you don't think has played sword then you're going to have to give me their name
It's fine, don't worry about it. I just can't remember myself using a sword
Don't even remember this, is this all my rating is based on?It's fine, don't worry about it. I just can't remember myself using a sword
https://challonge.com/fr/sworddueltourney (https://challonge.com/fr/sworddueltourney)
(https://i.gyazo.com/a0af8ade5b17b7a4bfc8afbebec82184.png)
Don't even remember this, is this all my rating is based on?It's fine, don't worry about it. I just can't remember myself using a sword
https://challonge.com/fr/sworddueltourney (https://challonge.com/fr/sworddueltourney)
(https://i.gyazo.com/a0af8ade5b17b7a4bfc8afbebec82184.png)
Don't even remember this, is this all my rating is based on?It's fine, don't worry about it. I just can't remember myself using a sword
https://challonge.com/fr/sworddueltourney (https://challonge.com/fr/sworddueltourney)
(https://i.gyazo.com/a0af8ade5b17b7a4bfc8afbebec82184.png)
pls add Bulgaria to your listDon't even remember this, is this all my rating is based on?It's fine, don't worry about it. I just can't remember myself using a sword
https://challonge.com/fr/sworddueltourney (https://challonge.com/fr/sworddueltourney)
(https://i.gyazo.com/a0af8ade5b17b7a4bfc8afbebec82184.png)
If there is something else I should be basing your rating on please link it to me
Uguu after my tournament the ratings will be korrekted and adjusted XA XA XAez pz
where tf am i in this list
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starts with r ends with agni
Gibby has won the last NW sword tournaments. I agree it doesn't necessarily mean much as it was mostly sword + bayonets format, but for a lack of other relevant data, you can't use much else to rate players. People who disagree with Gibby rating himself at the top should just ask him for a duel and find out by themselves. The next 3v3 full sword tournament should also give a more accurate picture to rate players.
LOL, that wasn't even me playing under that nameIt's fine, don't worry about it. I just can't remember myself using a sword
https://challonge.com/fr/sworddueltourney (https://challonge.com/fr/sworddueltourney)
(https://i.gyazo.com/a0af8ade5b17b7a4bfc8afbebec82184.png)
After todays tournament, surely some peoples ratings should be looked at ;D ;D
Maximou should be higher.
However take into consideration on how much certain players carried there team :)
Time to change the list man.
Time to change the list man.In my opinion Extazz at least highest tier maybe 95p insane performance in the final especially. Drake 80p. Maximou 105p.
After todays tournament, surely some peoples ratings should be looked at ;D ;DI agree with Hursty :)
Maximou should be higher.
However take into consideration on how much certain players carried there team :)
After todays tournament, surely some peoples ratings should be looked at ;D ;DI agree with Hursty :)
Maximou should be higher.
However take into consideration on how much certain players carried there team :)Spoiler(https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2019/30/7/1564348495-20190728225818-1.jpg)[close]
After todays tournament, surely some peoples ratings should be looked at ;D ;DI agree with Hursty :)
Maximou should be higher.
However take into consideration on how much certain players carried there team :)Spoiler(https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2019/30/7/1564348495-20190728225818-1.jpg)[close]
After todays tournament, surely some peoples ratings should be looked at ;D ;DI agree with Hursty :)
Maximou should be higher.
However take into consideration on how much certain players carried there team :)Spoiler(https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2019/30/7/1564348495-20190728225818-1.jpg)[close]
It's safe to assume that Maximou is atleast on par, rating him lower for the sake of EGO is a bit noobyFietta more like lost to Steinmann.
It's safe to assume that Maximou is atleast on par, rating him lower for the sake of EGO is a bit noobyFietta more like lost to Steinmann.
It's safe to assume that Maximou is atleast on par, rating him lower for the sake of EGO is a bit noobyFietta more like lost to Steinmann.
My score was good! You can only carry up to a point!
It's safe to assume that Maximou is atleast on par, rating him lower for the sake of EGO is a bit noobyFietta more like lost to Steinmann.
My score was good! You can only carry up to a point!
The thing is i was beating you everytime when we were in 1v1, when it wasn't you i was slaying your friends, you're delusional and i played way better than you that's why we won and you didn't.After todays tournament, surely some peoples ratings should be looked at ;D ;DI agree with Hursty :)
Maximou should be higher.
However take into consideration on how much certain players carried there team :)Spoiler(https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2019/30/7/1564348495-20190728225818-1.jpg)[close]
You played very well, just as well as I did and the scores reflect that. However, the deciding factor in that match was not either of us, but Tiberias and Drake's performances. They both played great and dealt with any duo that went against them pretty comfortably whilst you and I were duelling at the side. I've updated the list to reflect that ;)
It's safe to assume that Maximou is atleast on par, rating him lower for the sake of EGO is a bit noobyFietta more like lost to Steinmann.
My score was good! You can only carry up to a point!
I got screamed at by you :'(
The thing is i was beating you everytime when we were in 1v1, when it wasn't you i was slaying your friends, you're delusional and i played way better than you that's why we won and you didn't.After todays tournament, surely some peoples ratings should be looked at ;D ;DI agree with Hursty :)
Maximou should be higher.
However take into consideration on how much certain players carried there team :)Spoiler(https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2019/30/7/1564348495-20190728225818-1.jpg)[close]
You played very well, just as well as I did and the scores reflect that. However, the deciding factor in that match was not either of us, but Tiberias and Drake's performances. They both played great and dealt with any duo that went against them pretty comfortably whilst you and I were duelling at the side. I've updated the list to reflect that ;)
I became better than you just accept it and stop being stubborn.
It's safe to assume that Maximou is atleast on par, rating him lower for the sake of EGO is a bit noobyFietta more like lost to Steinmann.
My score was good! You can only carry up to a point!
I got screamed at by you :'(
That was becuz u were watching >:^( also I appreciate the flattering points, but can u remove me off the list thank u x
Watching you in them gucci shoes running away from me!!!
I could beat both you Maximou and Gibby in a 1v1 NW, but who cares it's just another list (cant really say if it's good or not because not from NW). :-*No name
I could beat both you Maximou and Gibby in a 1v1 NW, but who cares it's just another list (cant really say if it's good or not because not from NW). :-*No name
But I just told my parents that I made itI could beat both you Maximou and Gibby in a 1v1 NW, but who cares it's just another list (cant really say if it's good or not because not from NW). :-*No name
Ur kicked from wonwokie !
This is getting frankly ridiculous, anyone putting himself higher than maximou is delusional, incredible perf from him tonite.
having different opinion isn't a problem, what is problem is getting his ass kicked in the deciding contest (factually) and pretending it hasn't happend ;)
The thing is i was beating you everytime when we were in 1v1, when it wasn't you i was slaying your friends, you're delusional and i played way better than you that's why we won and you didn't.
I became better than you just accept it and stop being stubborn.
I mean that's demonstrably false, it was me and you left at the end of almost every round whilst your team would win the 2v2 and then come over to help. You didn't kill me early once; in contrast, I killed you early twice. Despite that, I know you played as well as I did and have changed your rating accordingly. Maybe I'll even give you 100 if you're lucky ;)
I watched the final on Netflix and I agree with what gibby is saying
I could beat both you Maximou and Gibby in a 1v1 NW, but who cares it's just another list (cant really say if it's good or not because not from NW). :-*
Come on, blaming your mates isn't very cool, and it's not true at all, you've been fairly outplayed by max when your path crossed or in the general impact of the matches.This is getting frankly ridiculous, anyone putting himself higher than maximou is delusional, incredible perf from him tonite.
having different opinion isn't a problem, what is problem is getting his ass kicked in the deciding contest (factually) and pretending it hasn't happend ;)
I direct you to my other reply:The thing is i was beating you everytime when we were in 1v1, when it wasn't you i was slaying your friends, you're delusional and i played way better than you that's why we won and you didn't.
I became better than you just accept it and stop being stubborn.
I mean that's demonstrably false, it was me and you left at the end of almost every round whilst your team would win the 2v2 and then come over to help. You didn't kill me early once; in contrast, I killed you early twice. Despite that, I know you played as well as I did and have changed your rating accordingly. Maybe I'll even give you 100 if you're lucky ;)
Yes, Maxime played as well as I did and the scoreboard for the match reflects that. I don't see what part of the match proved he was better than me though; he couldn't take me out 1v1, whereas I won twice 1v1, and he was fairly weak during the switches - let's not forget the round shadey clutched 1v2 against him. The score proves that your team was better than our team, true - hence why the ratings have been changed, but in order to rate individuals based on a team result you have to analyse individual performances. On the other hand, there is plenty of evidence that Tiberias and Drake were superior in a 2v2 against any of my teammates. That's what was obvious to me during the match and I think anyone that was watching would have seen the same.
Yes, Maxime played as well as I did and the scoreboard for the match reflects that. I don't see what part of the match proved he was better than me though; he couldn't take me out 1v1, whereas I won twice 1v1, and he was fairly weak during the switches - let's not forget the round shadey clutched 1v2 against him. The score proves that your team was better than our team, true - hence why the ratings have been changed, but in order to rate individuals based on a team result you have to analyse individual performances. On the other hand, there is plenty of evidence that Tiberias and Drake were superior in a 2v2 against any of my teammates. That's what was obvious to me during the match and I think anyone that was watching would have seen the same.Come on, blaming your mates isn't very cool, and it's not true at all, you've been fairly outplayed by max when your path crossed or in the general impact of the matches.
Looks like you're avoid ft 7, you would accept if you we're secure, but you're not, and it's nothing personal, i don't know you.
Yes you are repeating yourself, because you feel insecure, you can't get in your head the fact that im better than you, furthermore you are also scared to accept my offer to fight you in a ft7 one more fact that you are delusional, about the K/D ratio i did a few duels outside the arena like 3 or 4 so that doesn't affect my K/D at all, even without those extra kills im way over you in terms of K/D. You are lying to yourself Gibby :)Yes, Maxime played as well as I did and the scoreboard for the match reflects that. I don't see what part of the match proved he was better than me though; he couldn't take me out 1v1, whereas I won twice 1v1, and he was fairly weak during the switches - let's not forget the round shadey clutched 1v2 against him. The score proves that your team was better than our team, true - hence why the ratings have been changed, but in order to rate individuals based on a team result you have to analyse individual performances. On the other hand, there is plenty of evidence that Tiberias and Drake were superior in a 2v2 against any of my teammates. That's what was obvious to me during the match and I think anyone that was watching would have seen the same.Come on, blaming your mates isn't very cool, and it's not true at all, you've been fairly outplayed by max when your path crossed or in the general impact of the matches.
Looks like you're avoid ft 7, you would accept if you we're secure, but you're not, and it's nothing personal, i don't know you.
I feel like I'm repeating myself here: I didn't notice Maxime outplaying me at any point and I don't think his impact was greater than mine in any of the matches. His screenshot proves we were both huge assets throughout the tournament (and that rating us both so highly was justified), but unfortunately he was doing extra duels at the side of the arena so we will never know what his actual K/D was. I know that my teammates are individually disappointed with their performances and they can usually play much better than they did today. That's unfortunate, and because I know they can play better than they did I haven't changed their ratings, but it's a fact that they were outclassed by you and Tiberias. That was the deciding factor, as ultimately a duel between me and Maximou is just a stalemate - except for the few occasions in which I killed him ;)
Yes you are repeating yourself, because you feel insecure, you can't get in your head the fact that im better than you, furthermore you are also scared to accept my offer to fight you in a ft7 one more fact that you are delusional, about the K/D ratio i did a few duels outside the arena like 3 or 4 so that doesn't affect my K/D at all, even without those extra kills im way over you in terms of K/D. You are lying to yourself Gibby :)Yes, Maxime played as well as I did and the scoreboard for the match reflects that. I don't see what part of the match proved he was better than me though; he couldn't take me out 1v1, whereas I won twice 1v1, and he was fairly weak during the switches - let's not forget the round shadey clutched 1v2 against him. The score proves that your team was better than our team, true - hence why the ratings have been changed, but in order to rate individuals based on a team result you have to analyse individual performances. On the other hand, there is plenty of evidence that Tiberias and Drake were superior in a 2v2 against any of my teammates. That's what was obvious to me during the match and I think anyone that was watching would have seen the same.Come on, blaming your mates isn't very cool, and it's not true at all, you've been fairly outplayed by max when your path crossed or in the general impact of the matches.
Looks like you're avoid ft 7, you would accept if you we're secure, but you're not, and it's nothing personal, i don't know you.
I feel like I'm repeating myself here: I didn't notice Maxime outplaying me at any point and I don't think his impact was greater than mine in any of the matches. His screenshot proves we were both huge assets throughout the tournament (and that rating us both so highly was justified), but unfortunately he was doing extra duels at the side of the arena so we will never know what his actual K/D was. I know that my teammates are individually disappointed with their performances and they can usually play much better than they did today. That's unfortunate, and because I know they can play better than they did I haven't changed their ratings, but it's a fact that they were outclassed by you and Tiberias. That was the deciding factor, as ultimately a duel between me and Maximou is just a stalemate - except for the few occasions in which I killed him ;)
Yes you are repeating yourself, because you feel insecure, you can't get in your head the fact that im better than you, furthermore you are also scared to accept my offer to fight you in a ft7 one more fact that you are delusional, about the K/D ratio i did a few duels outside the arena like 3 or 4 so that doesn't affect my K/D at all, even without those extra kills im way over you in terms of K/D. You are lying to yourself Gibby :)Yes, Maxime played as well as I did and the scoreboard for the match reflects that. I don't see what part of the match proved he was better than me though; he couldn't take me out 1v1, whereas I won twice 1v1, and he was fairly weak during the switches - let's not forget the round shadey clutched 1v2 against him. The score proves that your team was better than our team, true - hence why the ratings have been changed, but in order to rate individuals based on a team result you have to analyse individual performances. On the other hand, there is plenty of evidence that Tiberias and Drake were superior in a 2v2 against any of my teammates. That's what was obvious to me during the match and I think anyone that was watching would have seen the same.Come on, blaming your mates isn't very cool, and it's not true at all, you've been fairly outplayed by max when your path crossed or in the general impact of the matches.
Looks like you're avoid ft 7, you would accept if you we're secure, but you're not, and it's nothing personal, i don't know you.
I feel like I'm repeating myself here: I didn't notice Maxime outplaying me at any point and I don't think his impact was greater than mine in any of the matches. His screenshot proves we were both huge assets throughout the tournament (and that rating us both so highly was justified), but unfortunately he was doing extra duels at the side of the arena so we will never know what his actual K/D was. I know that my teammates are individually disappointed with their performances and they can usually play much better than they did today. That's unfortunate, and because I know they can play better than they did I haven't changed their ratings, but it's a fact that they were outclassed by you and Tiberias. That was the deciding factor, as ultimately a duel between me and Maximou is just a stalemate - except for the few occasions in which I killed him ;)
im sick of all these native immigrants get off our forums
im sick of all these native immigrants get off our forumsIm sick of YOU
im sick of all these native immigrants get off our forums
im sick of all these native immigrants get off our forums
why tf is a native ARCHER MAIN trying to ague he would be better than a top tier inf player smh maximouWhat does class matter?
he couldn't take me out 1v1, whereas I won twice 1v1Sorry but that's just not true, out of all the rounds played maximou won 3 1v1 and you 0 (against each other). Just watch heri's video, not giving him the same points as you looks a bit like bad faith ngl .
he couldn't take me out 1v1, whereas I won twice 1v1Sorry but that's just not true, out of all the rounds played maximou won 3 1v1 and you 0 (against each other). Just watch heri's video, not giving him the same points as you looks a bit like bad faith ngl .
I was rated 93 because I couldn't progress further in the tournament because my teammates, they're both disappointed with their performance, even shouted at Golden for being sh*t (sorry for calling you boys out). If we were being logical, putting me at 93 wouldn't make any sense, if I were in the same team instead of you or Maximou, the performance would've been the same, the amount of kills reflected that, as I had around 15+ kills more than my teammates in the only 2 rounds we played, if both of you were in my position I highly doubt you'd have done much better. Basing performance off results is silly @ Maximou, considering this list is very abstract by just calling it 'Sword' and not Sword Duel or Sword Groupfighting, it's almost impossible to give an accurate rating...
he couldn't take me out 1v1, whereas I won twice 1v1Sorry but that's just not true, out of all the rounds played maximou won 3 1v1 and you 0 (against each other). Just watch heri's video, not giving him the same points as you looks a bit like bad faith ngl .
I mean that's demonstrably false, it was me and you left at the end of almost every round whilst your team would win the 2v2 and then come over to help. You didn't kill me early once
I know that my teammates are individually disappointed with their performances and they can usually play much better than they did today. That's unfortunate, and because I know they can play better than they did I haven't changed their ratings, but it's a fact that they were outclassed by you and Tiberias. That was the deciding factor...
So in the end you're scared that's it again and again the same thing, i don't really care i already consider myself better than you but if i was as you said as good as you or a bit less better why wouldn't you accept my ft7 offer then?
You want me to pay you, so you're sure of winning?
On your request for a ft7, my policy is the same as it is on Native and my answer is the same as it has been since 2016.
Could beat both of you with a bayonet vs sword :-X
When was the last time fatkoala launched NWFor that Power Rangers tournament in 2017 I think.
When was the last time fatkoala launched NWFor that Power Rangers tournament in 2017 I think.
I don't remember seeing him play competitively since then?When was the last time fatkoala launched NWFor that Power Rangers tournament in 2017 I think.
Nope
I don't remember seeing him play competitively since then?When was the last time fatkoala launched NWFor that Power Rangers tournament in 2017 I think.
Nope
When was the last time fatkoala launched NWi saw him playing in gf server before some weeks
I've cut out the bit where he says that I'm better than Maxime because that's irrelevant to the point I'm making - my point is that a team result does not reflect how individuals performed. Maxime winning the match does not automatically make him the better player. A perfect comparison to make here (this has nothing to do with the ratings themselves, it's just a comparison) is how Maxime's 3v3 team on Native performed against Weesmithy, ONeil and Royal. Maxime's team won 24 - 23, which suggests an incredibly close match; if we were just looking at the match score we'd have to say that Maxime was very equal in skill level to the people he was against. However, anyone that watched the video of that match would see that Maxime was almost always last alive in a 1v1 and would die when the other 2 on his team would lose the 2v2, forcing him into a 1v3. The situation is essentially the same as what happened in our 3v3 match.I really agree on that part, and i was sure not referring to the final score when speaking about Maximou's performance during the match but more on what i've seen when watching it live and then on heri's channel.
Fair enough for the early part, cause on the 1v1s i saw him winning it was indeed more around the end of the round and even sometimes when the 2v2 on the other side of the map was already lost (i do think he killed you once kinda early but can't remember for sure and it doesn't really matter at this point).he couldn't take me out 1v1, whereas I won twice 1v1Sorry but that's just not true, out of all the rounds played maximou won 3 1v1 and you 0 (against each other). Just watch heri's video, not giving him the same points as you looks a bit like bad faith ngl .
It seems I ended up missing out the "early" part in some of my later posts because I was repeating myself and forgot that detail. This was the original post:I mean that's demonstrably false, it was me and you left at the end of almost every round whilst your team would win the 2v2 and then come over to help. You didn't kill me early once
The early part is important because of course if my team is down 1 or 2 people, and it's 2v3 or 1v3, I have to take risks against Maxime in that 1v1 or I'm just going to die when his teammates come over. Obviously that requires me to play aggressively and risk my life to try and get that kill - those are the situations where he killed me 1v1. I watched the video and checked that myself.
Herishey's video made it very obvious to me that what I was saying about Tib and Drake being a superior duo to any other duo on my team was true. Most rounds ended with me duelling Maxime at the side and Tib + Drake coming over to 3v1 after they had killed the rest of my team - that's a fact and anyone that watches the video will see it. Before people accuse me of bad-mouthing my team again - which is a dumb thing to say since I am friends with all of them - here's a quote of what I said previously:
He was not in that PR line up in 2017 man, it was you ledger dren mopin troister jammo axiom and me.You forgot bumfluff =D
I think he played for gb in 2016 for the first mini nwwc.
Oh, I thought he was there just as a benchwarmer like Bumfluff (I thought had had to leave for native after a match or two). He played in the first one for a few rounds but then had to go to native. Can't remember the last time he played a full match lol.I don't remember seeing him play competitively since then?When was the last time fatkoala launched NWFor that Power Rangers tournament in 2017 I think.
Nope
He was not in that PR line up in 2017 man, it was you ledger dren mopin troister jammo axiom and me.
I think he played for gb in 2016 for the first mini nwwc.
Paying Arni to let you win the last round vs him isn't winning, cancelling your own duel tourney without saying anything because you were scared of losing isn't winning, getting carried by Arni in every 2vs2 tourney ( let's not forget that the last 2vs2 tourney you were with Scar and you lose it by getting rekt in multiples 1vs1 vs Charlini and Darklight in which if you would have won, you wouldn't have lost to them). Yeah since 2016 every people that asked you out for a ft7, you didn't accept, no you did
accept when you were sure of winning against "low tier players", and if random ft7 wouldn't matter why wouldn't you do some, hiding your playstyle? But everyone knows your playstyle.
You're saying the same sentence since 2016 because you know that we would never faces each other, if it would have happened, you would have gave me the default or just abandon the tourney for ridiculous reasons.
Even on this mod you can't accept my offer, you got no reputation here i've got the reputation of being the best swordmen, i won the last two duelling contests plus the 3v3 now, you got nothing to lose yet you don't accept because you're not sure of winning, and a little scared a would assume so too. :-X
Paying Arni to let you win the last round vs him isn't winning, cancelling your own duel tourney without saying anything because you were scared of losing isn't winning, getting carried by Arni in every 2vs2 tourney ( let's not forget that the last 2vs2 tourney you were with Scar and you lose it by getting rekt in multiples 1vs1 vs Charlini and Darklight in which if you would have won, you wouldn't have lost to them). Yeah since 2016 every people that asked you out for a ft7, you didn't accept, no you did
accept when you were sure of winning against "low tier players", and if random ft7 wouldn't matter why wouldn't you do some, hiding your playstyle? But everyone knows your playstyle.
You're saying the same sentence since 2016 because you know that we would never faces each other, if it would have happened, you would have gave me the default or just abandon the tourney for ridiculous reasons.
Even on this mod you can't accept my offer, you got no reputation here i've got the reputation of being the best swordmen, i won the last two duelling contests plus the 3v3 now, you got nothing to lose yet you don't accept because you're not sure of winning, and a little scared a would assume so too. :-X
Paying Arni to let you win the last round vs him isn't winning, cancelling your own duel tourney without saying anything because you were scared of losing isn't winning, getting carried by Arni in every 2vs2 tourney ( let's not forget that the last 2vs2 tourney you were with Scar and you lose it by getting rekt in multiples 1vs1 vs Charlini and Darklight in which if you would have won, you wouldn't have lost to them). Yeah since 2016 every people that asked you out for a ft7, you didn't accept, no you did
accept when you were sure of winning against "low tier players", and if random ft7 wouldn't matter why wouldn't you do some, hiding your playstyle? But everyone knows your playstyle.
You're saying the same sentence since 2016 because you know that we would never faces each other, if it would have happened, you would have gave me the default or just abandon the tourney for ridiculous reasons.
Even on this mod you can't accept my offer, you got no reputation here i've got the reputation of being the best swordmen, i won the last two duelling contests plus the 3v3 now, you got nothing to lose yet you don't accept because you're not sure of winning, and a little scared a would assume so too. :-X
I think we can all agree that bringing Native here is very unreasonable - should probably start talking more about NW tournaments and performance rather than using Native because of Maximou being a bigot boy. Native doesn't prove a point in NW.
I think we can all agree that bringing Native here is very unreasonable - should probably start talking more about NW tournaments and performance rather than using Native because of Maximou being a bigot boy. Native doesn't prove a point in NW.BlockAuto :)
I will just let Gibby being the little stubborn boy, and let him alone with his biased list.
Drake and whoever the other french lad is, stop. You're cringing me the fuck out. It's immensely obvious you're biased towards your friend Maximou. You're not stating facts, you are backing up your friend.
Maximou, stop with the personal attacks lad, it just looks sad and immature.
Gibby, do a ft7 with him and show us what you've been telling us you little freak. "MY POLICY HAS BEEN THE SAME SINCE 2016" that just dodging ft7's because you can't stand to lose, which I'm not saying you will. (I READ YOU BOY).
I think we can all agree that a ft7 would settle the dispute rather than typing pages upon pages onto this thread. Maximou is willing to do it, and Gibby since you claim you're better (which I personally believe) accept it and show us.
Drake and whoever the other french lad is, stop. You're cringing me the fuck out. It's immensely obvious you're biased towards your friend Maximou. You're not stating facts, you are backing up your friend.
Maximou, stop with the personal attacks lad, it just looks sad and immature.
Gibby, do a ft7 with him and show us what you've been telling us you little freak. "MY POLICY HAS BEEN THE SAME SINCE 2016" that just dodging ft7's because you can't stand to lose, which I'm not saying you will. (I READ YOU BOY).
I think we can all agree that a ft7 would settle the dispute rather than typing pages upon pages onto this thread. Maximou is willing to do it, and Gibby since you claim you're better (which I personally believe) accept it and show us.
Time to host an NW sword duel tourney
Time to host an NW sword duel tourneyand accidentally make gibby and maximou play eachother
Time to host an NW sword duel tourneyand accidentally make gibby and maximou play eachother
Time to host an NW sword duel tourney(https://media1.tenor.com/images/a2b0aaaf63046c966c9817d72ea35377/tenor.gif?itemid=13585846)
It's okay if you want to protect your boyfriend, but eventually we are going to need to see who's better!!Time to host an NW sword duel tourney(https://media1.tenor.com/images/a2b0aaaf63046c966c9817d72ea35377/tenor.gif?itemid=13585846)
Time to host an NW sword duel tourney
yeah no thanks ;DIt's okay if you want to protect your boyfriend, but eventually we are going to need to see who's better!!Time to host an NW sword duel tourney(https://media1.tenor.com/images/a2b0aaaf63046c966c9817d72ea35377/tenor.gif?itemid=13585846)
No to what? The tourney or the hero of Bucharestyeah no thanks ;DIt's okay if you want to protect your boyfriend, but eventually we are going to need to see who's better!!Time to host an NW sword duel tourney(https://media1.tenor.com/images/a2b0aaaf63046c966c9817d72ea35377/tenor.gif?itemid=13585846)
No to what? The tourney or the hero of Bucharestyeah no thanks ;DIt's okay if you want to protect your boyfriend, but eventually we are going to need to see who's better!!Time to host an NW sword duel tourney(https://media1.tenor.com/images/a2b0aaaf63046c966c9817d72ea35377/tenor.gif?itemid=13585846)
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Drake and whoever the other french lad is, stop. You're cringing me the fuck out. It's immensely obvious you're biased towards your friend Maximou. You're not stating facts, you are backing up your friend.
Maximou, stop with the personal attacks lad, it just looks sad and immature.
Gibby, do a ft7 with him and show us what you've been telling us you little freak. "MY POLICY HAS BEEN THE SAME SINCE 2016" that just dodging ft7's because you can't stand to lose, which I'm not saying you will. (I READ YOU BOY).
I think we can all agree that a ft7 would settle the dispute rather than typing pages upon pages onto this thread. Maximou is willing to do it, and Gibby since you claim you're better (which I personally believe) accept it and show us.
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wow even you are in on the meme!!! impressivehttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=623394404lil fanboy
The module is about muskets, so making a bayonet or a sword list would be just as irrelevant as each other. The original intention was large scale line battles, which involved both muskets and swords (for officers), only the community made the group fighting scene a thing. In Native, spearman are also considered in lists, even though you'd argue that Native is about swords.So deep and profound
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trot888
The module is about muskets, so making a bayonet or a sword list would be just as irrelevant as each other. The original intention was large scale line battles, which involved both muskets and swords (for officers), only the community made the group fighting scene a thing; some group fighting also includes swords. In Native, spearmen are also considered in lists, even though you'd argue that Native is about swords.
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trot888
The module is about muskets, so making a bayonet or a sword list would be just as irrelevant as each other. The original intention was large scale line battles, which involved both muskets and swords (for officers), only the community made the group fighting scene a thing. In Native, spearman are also considered in lists, even though you'd argue that Native is about swords.So deep and profound
kind regards
trot888
The module is about muskets, so making a bayonet or a sword list would be just as irrelevant as each other. The original intention was large scale line battles, which involved both muskets (with the main aspect being around shooting in lines) and swords (for officers), only the community made the group fighting scene a thing; some group fighting also includes swords. In Native, spearmen are also considered in lists, even though you'd argue that Native is about swords.
kind regards
trot888
I'm also arguing that judging the skill of an NW player is subjective, and I completely say that the skill is by my account judged by their sword and bayonet ability currently.
I fully agree on it going around in circles. A lot of what you say is true or at least makes sense to my eyes but we indeed seem to share different opinions on relevancy and other subjective matters.
Bottom line, if you want to carry on and give more importance to the sword in the current NW groupfighting scene (regiments and/or teams) I believe hosting regular sword + bayonets tournaments and also full swords tournaments (1v1/2v2/3v3 etc..) would be a good idea. So far, we had very few of them in comparison to the regular ones (full bayonets) and it surely is a detriment to your whole argument or at least, doesn't help to make certain people taking them as seriously as other tournaments.
4v4 two swords two bayonets tourney please ;)
In group fighting tournaments where swords exist, in some cases, the swordsmen could single-handedly take out multiple people with ease (I'm not saying bayonets can't, it's just there's no comparison between the two) because of the 4 directional combat, making them the strongest and most skill based weapon on the module. A sword would beat a bayonet in a 1 on 1 combat, players from Native join NW and are almost instantly better than a lot of NW players without knowing the NW meta, and since they catch on quickly can progress in the ranks 1000s of hours quicker than just sole NW players. So I can't stress enough that the true test of NW infantry skill would be a combination of both, which is why I'd advocate swords to be introduced in all tournaments, as a true test of a player's melee ability. Only being able to block two directions in a module where both 4 direction and 2 direction melee weapons exist is a bit silly. Coming from Native with no NW experience and then joining an 8v8 swords and bayonet groupfight, I'd have a larger impact as an 'NW noob' by killing more people with a sword than a top level bayonet fighter would, because of 4 directions. Just because swords are ruled out because people can't block 4 directions, doesn't mean the players are better, I'd argue they're worse. git gud with both or stay bad forever.
In group fighting tournaments where swords exist, in some cases, the swordsmen could single-handedly take out multiple people with ease (I'm not saying bayonets can't, it's just there's no comparison between the two) because of the 4 directional combat, making them the strongest and most skill based weapon on the module. A sword would beat a bayonet in a 1 on 1 combat, players from Native join NW and are almost instantly better than a lot of NW players without knowing the NW meta, and since they catch on quickly can progress in the ranks 1000s of hours quicker than just sole NW players. So I can't stress enough that the true test of NW infantry skill would be a combination of both, which is why I'd advocate swords to be introduced in all tournaments, as a true test of a player's melee ability. Only being able to block two directions in a module where both 4 direction and 2 direction melee weapons exist is a bit silly. Coming from Native with no NW experience and then joining an 8v8 swords and bayonet groupfight, I'd have a larger impact as an 'NW noob' by killing more people with a sword than a top level bayonet fighter would, because of 4 directions. Just because swords are ruled out because people can't block 4 directions, doesn't mean the players are better, I'd argue they're worse. git gud with both or stay bad forever.
Hard to take you seriously Nathan, Fietta with a chicken picture and stupid trot888 name and addressing every post like a damn letter. Either way just wanted to address a few reasons as to why swords are inferior to bayonets. Less range by a lot, less damage by a lot. Officers have slower move speed and can't run away and are very susceptible to kicks. I've never seen a sword player take out more than 3 or so players in 1 round or ever win a 1v2 or 1v3 in over 4 sword + bayonet tournaments. This includes native sword players like Maximou.
Saying Native players are completely superior then a lot of NW players is a complete fallacy. When Gibby played for The Oven (tz0) a couple of times I just ran at him with side stabs and simple lunges and he died over and over again unable to block a bayonet from range. His latest sword and bayonet tournament his final score was something like 5-20 no offence to him. He had no awareness, same with maximou his GF awareness was terrible he had no idea of bayonet range and still arguably doesn't. Something which takes a while to wire into your brain. I played for TBE with Maximou on sword for me in many sword bayo tournaments and it was always the case that NW sword players had the advantage over native. In fact Hokej won two I believe simply because unlike maximou he had far superior GF awareness and just far more survivability than a Native player. Voluble was right when he said Native players were terrible vs bayonet even with 4 attack directions.
So the main reasons swords are added for fun is because they are just an inferior weapon to the bayonet. The only advantage are the attack directions but the range, damage and speed of an infantry man with bayonet is over all superior. Of course 1vs1 its subjective as that would depend on the sword player and the bayonet player and their play styles but over all just stats wise I would argue the bayonet is superior. And I think NW players know this hence why that has been the competitive format and why it always will be. Besides arguably two stabs means players have to be more intuitive at high levels especially in GF to make kills allows for more interesting styles.
4v4 two swords two bayonets tourney please ;)
Bayonets are superior to swords for groupfighting without a doubt; they have better range, higher damage and faster speeds (when class proficiencies are taken into account). That said, I think there's no question a sword player wins 1v1 against someone with a bayonet, not least because most bayonet players aren't familiar with how to counter a good sword player - the same problem native sword players have in NW groupfights. The 4 directions are definitely superior for duelling and there are many more "duel moves" you can do with a sword.
I don't think getting into a NATIVE VS NW PLAYER WHO IS BETTER AT GAME conversation is worthwhile because they are obviously different skill-sets with limited cross-compatibility. As the mighty MATT said to me:
Larry Wheels Roid Rage Monday, 22/07/2019, 04:42:
its like boxing vs an mma fighter
a mma fighter can box
but a boxer cant do mma
I don't think Fietta should be talking about how good native players are with bayonets because we don't really know the answer to that question yet; people like Arni and myself have only done a couple of gfs and no tournaments, so until we've taken part in one and played a bit longer it's not really possible to rate us anywhere in terms of skill because it's not possible to know where we belong. I mean the main skills we can carry over aren't mechanical or meta related, but are just the reactions and teamplay that we built up in Native; we are still pretty bad when it comes to NW TRICKS and META. Also, the fact that 2 of the best infantry of all time in Native are also good in NW doesn't mean that anyone from Native is gonna be good in NW. Pretty sure 90% of Native players would be garbage in NW. Only the ones that have top level reactions and know how to teamplay have a chance of being decent/good as soon as they switch to NW.
Bayonets are superior to swords for groupfighting without a doubt; they have better range, higher damage and faster speeds (when class proficiencies are taken into account). That said, I think there's no question a sword player wins 1v1 against someone with a bayonet, not least because most bayonet players aren't familiar with how to counter a good sword player - the same problem native sword players have in NW groupfights. The 4 directions are definitely superior for duelling and there are many more "duel moves" you can do with a sword.
I don't think getting into a NATIVE VS NW PLAYER WHO IS BETTER AT GAME conversation is worthwhile because they are obviously different skill-sets with limited cross-compatibility. As the mighty MATT said to me:
Larry Wheels Roid Rage Monday, 22/07/2019, 04:42:
its like boxing vs an mma fighter
a mma fighter can box
but a boxer cant do mma
I don't think Fietta should be talking about how good native players are with bayonets because we don't really know the answer to that question yet; people like Arni and myself have only done a couple of gfs and no tournaments, so until we've taken part in one and played a bit longer it's not really possible to rate us anywhere in terms of skill because it's not possible to know where we belong. I mean the main skills we can carry over aren't mechanical or meta related, but are just the reactions and teamplay that we built up in Native; we are still pretty bad when it comes to NW TRICKS and META. Also, the fact that 2 of the best infantry of all time in Native are also good in NW doesn't mean that anyone from Native is gonna be good in NW. Pretty sure 90% of Native players would be garbage in NW. Only the ones that have top level reactions and know how to teamplay have a chance of being decent/good as soon as they switch to NW.
Preach.
In group fighting tournaments where swords exist, in some cases, the swordsmen could single-handedly take out multiple people with easeThey never do in tournaments tho. I've not seen a single sword player actually carry in a sword and bayo tournament.They might get lots of kills, yet most ot them are in 2v1s where their 4 attack directions are very usefull. But that has very little to do with their insano NW groupfighting skill and more with the 4 directions. Anyone can spam a sword and let his more experienced teammate hold and time his stabs with the sword. Most NW players aren't that used to blocking swords. Again, nothing to do with your insane skill.On the contrary, swords lack range and are therefore mostly useless in the period where both teams are straight opposite eachother. They never get first-picks and just have to wait to get a 2v1 going somewhere.
players from Native join NW and are almost instantly better than a lot of NW players without knowing the NW meta, and since they catch on quickly can progress in the ranks 1000s of hours quicker than just sole NW players.Yet they don't. Gibby doesnt carry 28th or his mage team, he didn't carry PB in the sword tournament or carry 91st at any point. You dont carry 15th or snappers. Maximou doesn't carry the frenchies (apart from the actual 3v3 sword gf) . I don't see where you get this idea from. Yes, they are better than the general noobs. But that is because you've played thousands of hours of this game, just like the rest of us. Actually, adapting to the meta is mostly where the native players struggle. They understand the basics such as blocking, because they are also the basics of native. Yet the meta differs greatly from native. The native players often don't do much at all in actual groupfights. At which point you're about as usefull as the average NW player.
Is trot888 EU’s version of MATT?
Quoteplayers from Native join NW and are almost instantly better than a lot of NW players without knowing the NW meta, and since they catch on quickly can progress in the ranks 1000s of hours quicker than just sole NW players.Yet they don't. Gibby doesnt carry 28th or his mage team, he didn't carry PB in the sword tournament or carry 91st at any point. You dont carry 15th or snappers. Maximou doesn't carry the frenchies (apart from the actual 3v3 sword gf) . I don't see where you get this idea from. Yes, they are better than the general noobs. But that is because you've played thousands of hours of this game, just like the rest of us. Actually, adapting to the meta is mostly where the native players struggle. They understand the basics such as blocking, because they are also the basics of native. Yet the meta differs greatly from native. The native players often don't do much at all in actual groupfights. At which point you're about as usefull as the average NW player.
Wtf gibby carrys everything hello ???
Dude never post casual gf screens when you know PB were trolling out their ass. And the fact you were 0-10 before map change or something hmmm.
Like I said, trying to place Arni or myself anywhere in your rankings of players doesn't make sense since it's not clear where we fit in yet - we haven't taken part in a gf tournament yet and only have 2 team gfs to go off of as examples of how we play.
Dude never post casual gf screens when you know PB were trolling out their ass. And the fact you were 0-10 before map change or something hmmm.
yes, rikkert said i don't play well in mages. what have mages done so far? right, 2 casual gfs, so like I actually said underneath those screens:Like I said, trying to place Arni or myself anywhere in your rankings of players doesn't make sense since it's not clear where we fit in yet - we haven't taken part in a gf tournament yet and only have 2 team gfs to go off of as examples of how we play.
You all are bad, because you don't have any cavalry tournament wins.
Talk to me when you win as infantry and cavalry.
you are as weak as whales
Idgaf about bayonet, gf are fun but i don't take them seriously.shut up
Gibby, stop stabbing me in the back and accept my offer, little scared boy, you are as weak as whales by acting like that.
you shut up!Idgaf about bayonet, gf are fun but i don't take them seriously.shut up
Gibby, stop stabbing me in the back and accept my offer, little scared boy, you are as weak as whales by acting like that.
I came 3rd with UK can I count that and speak again please?You all are bad, because you don't have any cavalry tournament wins.
Talk to me when you win as infantry and cavalry.
Trot you are just another example of Native player a.k.a. HoW AM i SuPposeD To BlOCk WIThoUt shiEld. You Native guys are just like NAs - withous skill, yet bitching about meleePossibly your finest post to date, I'm proud of you
Trot you are just another example of Native player a.k.a. HoW AM i SuPposeD To BlOCk WIThoUt shiEld. You Native guys are just like NAs - withous skill, yet bitching about meleePossibly your finest post to date, I'm proud of you
Trot you are just another example of Native player a.k.a. HoW AM i SuPposeD To BlOCk WIThoUt shiEld. You Native guys are just like NAs - without skill, yet bitching about melee
Trot you are just another example of Native player a.k.a. HoW AM i SuPposeD To BlOCk WIThoUt shiEld. You Native guys are just like NAs - without skill, yet bitching about melee
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Trot you are just another example of Native player a.k.a. HoW AM i SuPposeD To BlOCk WIThoUt shiEld. You Native guys are just like NAs - without skill, yet bitching about meleeTRY ME YOU LITTLE SPUNKSTAIN, ILL MAKE YOU REGRET BEING BORN FOOL