Alternate History Thread

[TORN]

Germany had the right wing take over because of the depression after WW1. Which would still be there if they won but they could've recovered faster if it wasn't for all the debt they had to pay.

[Walko]

Ok, so here is a question I'de like an answer to.. What would have happened, if America had not entered WW1? More specifically, do you think either side had steam left? I mean after the Michael offensive, I feel like both sides were pooped. I guess the German home front was in horrible shape, but I still feel that the allied armies were getting close to breaking. While I know very little, I'm pretty sure French soldiers had some sort of strike in 1917. I was just wondering if you think either side would have the recourses and willpower to keep fighting, and if so, how much longer? Sorry if I got any information wrong.

[Duuring]

Need more napoleonics pl0x

[Wismar]

Need more napoleonics pl0x

No!

[Duuring]

There are simply no alternativ history-novels concerning Napoleonics. No fair.

[TORN]

If the French won at waterloo i'd probally be french right now 

[Duuring]

Not really. Napoleon changes of winning in 1815 were incredibly slim. There were over half a million men marching for France. The Russians corpses alone outnumbered the entire French force.

Had Napoleon won Waterloo, he would again have to split his force to chase both the Allied as well as the Prussian army. The allied had a reserve at Hal that could make up for all their losses, and with that reserve they would retreat behind the Schelde, with Antwerp as HQ. Brussels would have been lost, but apart from being the capital and thus being prestigious, it held little tactical value.

Had Napoleon tried to sue peace with William I of the Netherlands, there is just no way he would demand ANYTHING, let alone entire Belgium. Napoleon was in no position to negotiate, even after a victory.

[TORN]

Okay if he won the war then.

Spoiler

THIS IS WHY WE DON'T INTO NAPOLEONICS!

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[Duuring]

There are plenty of possibilities for alternative history. Just not Waterloo. Asking 'what would have happened if Napoleon had won Waterloo?' Is like asking "What would have happened if Lee had won Appomattox?

Try Russia 1812, Spain 1808, Austria 1809 (Wagram!), or my personal favorite, England 1804-05. What would have happened if the French had managed to invade Britain with their allies? First of all - No Austerlitz.

[Prince_Eugen]

Well, if in 1812 Napoleon won in Russia, he would pass to India and hammered brits there. Then, cutting Britian from thier main colonies, he would greatly succseed in the Europe.

[Duuring]

That was his idea when invading Egypt, actually.

[Prince_Eugen]

That was his idea when invading Egypt, actually.

In invading Russia, that was his idea too.

[Duuring]

Sorry, I don't believe you. It might have been one of Napoleons ideas, stored far in the back of his head, but making way for the invasion of India wasn't reason #1.

[Prince_Eugen]

Sorry, I don't believe you. It might have been one of Napoleons ideas, stored far in the back of his head, but making way for the invasion of India wasn't reason #1.

I didnt say that was the idea #1 Just one of the ideas in invading Russia.

[Duuring]

Then it's just one of those motives historians decided to add to the long list of 'reasons to invade Russia'. Incorrectly, in my opinion.

Napoleon had an alliance with both Russia, Austria and Prussia after the 1809 campaign. If he wanted to invade India, he would have done at that stage.