Alternate History Thread

[DeoVindice61]

That roman uniform is pretty epic. Would love to fight in that.

Alternate History, my favorite subject. Harry Turtledove is one of my favorite author, I'm currently reading through his "Settling Accounts" series as if CSA and USA are torn in ww2 again. This time, The German backed US while British backed CSA, war ravage through out America, General Patton leading Confederate armors kickin' ass and Pittsburgh being fought around just as Stalingrad.

[Walko]

That's who I meant! I couldn't remember his name! Pat Conroy is a completely different author.

[Wismar]

If the CSA won the civil war. There probably wouldn't be a WW2...

[Duuring]

There never have been written real alternative history books concerning the Napoleonics. Apart from some fantasy/steampunk rubbish.

[Augy]

I remember an alternate history film where Nazi Germany was victorious, pretty good dystopian film.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvR15G8yEhg[/youtube]

[TORN]

If the CSA won the civil war. There probably wouldn't be a WW2...

that is a very very weird statement.

[Wismar]

If the CSA won the civil war. There probably wouldn't be a WW2...

that is a very very weird statement.

I was thinking that there wouldn't be a WW2 (or atleast as we know it) because Germany might have won the Great War with either US or CS help.

[TORN]

Germany was losing with or without help of the USA. Germany was completely exhausted it couldn't continue the war.
And you can't be certain that if the CSA won the civil war that they still didn't interfere in the great war.

[Wismar]

Germany was losing with or without help of the USA. Germany was completely exhausted it couldn't continue the war.
And you can't be certain that if the CSA won the civil war that they still didn't interfere in the great war.

I don't think that the US and CS would be on the same side in the great war.

[TORN]

Why?

[Nipplestockings]

Germany would most likely still not have won without the help of the USA, but they certainly would have had a better chance. The surrender of Russia left a power vacume that shifted the balance of the war, and the United States shifted it back in the favor of the allies. With the threat of Russia on the eastern front gone, and a weakened western front without the aid of the USA, things could have turned out very differently.

Now, on the other hand, the CSA, being almost completely unindustrialized at the time of the civil war, would not have survived as a state for more than a decade on its own. To think that they still would have been around by the time of world war 1 is ridiculous. The CSA and USA would have most likely, having lived for a few years apart from each other, realized that they had more to gain being together than separate, and reunited.

[TWking]

there are quite a few doccos thatd o this sort of thing.

this is one about if the Nazi's had won WWII and conquered the USA
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4 mins into the video and I am already disagreeing with it.
If the Germans had ME 262s the would be no invasion until the Allies had them.
Also Russia was pounding the Germans in the east even with ME 262s they would probably still get crushed by the Russians.
They even said that if the nuclear arms race was given more support in Germany they would of won it but it wasn't.

[DeoVindice61]

If the CSA won the civil war. There probably wouldn't be a WW2...

I have a alternate history book about CSA in ww2. its quite different, theres no nazi and 3rd reich because USA helped the Central power win ww1. So the Kaisier lives through and goes to war in ww2 successfully taking over entire Europe to ensure peace. CSA was actually parraell to 3rd reich because of the typically racism toward to blacks. So they build concentration camp for african americans and placed them in ghetto. Interesting role change.

[TORN]

If the CSA won the civil war. There probably wouldn't be a WW2...

I have a alternate history book about CSA in ww2. its quite different, theres no nazi and 3rd reich because USA helped the Central power win ww1. So the Kaisier lives through and goes to war in ww2 successfully taking over entire Europe to ensure peace. CSA was actually parraell to 3rd reich because of the typically racism toward to blacks. So they build concentration camp for african americans and placed them in ghetto. Interesting role change.

What wait WHAT?! Why would the CSA aid the german empire? Why would it build concentration camps for african americans? I'm pretty sure the CSA would've caved under pressure from other countries to abolish slavery. If the Central powers won WW1 there wouldn't be WW2, nothing really makes sense of what you just said.

[ClearlyInvsible]

1. He said the USA helped the Germans, the Union.

2. People always find reasons to kill eachother, another World War could have happened for different reasons.

3. If the CSA went through the same radical right wing takeover as Germany had, it wouldn't be unlikely that blacks would be persecuted post slavery. They'd treat African Americans as the Nazis did Jewish people.