The community deserves better

[Robin_Hood]

Completely agree with you Millander, making a thread like this is only going to be worse for the community, it has gone from pointing out flaws in a civil manner, to picking as many holes as you can because something as little as retiring the 51st number has rubbed you up the wrong way or something.

It looks to me more like anger and resentment. If they were happy with the way things were run it wouldn't be satisfying to complain. The 51st number seems more like a trigger than a cause to me.

The 51st number? Or the 51st in-game regiment which we paid for?

[Althalus]

You guys do all realize that we can't gain control of the public servers or forums - no matter how long this debate goes on for - don't you?

[LittleGuy]

What about the amount of people calling each other names and shit on US 1? saying eachother are bad at this and that spamming it 24/7 and i dont want to say names.
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Calling someone bad does not concern me as long as there is no racist slur someone within the message. Calling people names is frowned upon, but not ban worthy unless it is a threat RL, and/or a racist slur.

[Vorlen]

I am currently a head admin for the US1 side of things, and I take full responsibility for any actions both admissible and inadmissible by my admin team. I have even gone so far as to personally apologize to those who have been wrongly banned, or had admin powers misused on them. Yes, we do have new admins, and yes our current method of selecting admin may seem like a popularity contest as far as the actual process goes. It goes something like this.

1. We post a thread asking for people to apply for an admin position.

2. All of the admin candidates are then added to a list and mailed to every admin on the team.

3. The admins list the candidates in to three different groups labeled "I think this person would make a good admin" "I have had issue with this person in the past and do not feel they would make a good admin, please explain if you put them here." and "Who the heck is this?"

We do this so that we can gather information on the persons past. Any rule breaking, trolling, bans etc.. This is also used to ensure that the admin team works well together, and we try to avoid any infighting as that just causes problems.

4. We tally up all the Yes/Nos each person got and drop the people will shady pasts, bans for breaking certain rules, and add the group of people that the current admin team agrees will work best.

5. We watch, and remove any admins we feel are misusing their powers even after warnings, and rectify any wrongdoing with the intent on making those admins better as they learn to handle their new position of hatred and disdain amongst the  community.

So no, our process is not perfect, and there is most certainly a period of training that comes with adding a batch of new admins. There are a few things in this game that do not help though. The inclusion of fluff admin guns and weapons that normal players don't get a chance to use does not help us. The draw of these new "toys" is simply too much for a new admin sometimes. And the only way to punish people and remove them from the game is either an hour long or a perma ban. These issues will hopefully be fixed in BCoF.

As far as my admin team's actions go. Yes, there have been mistakes, and most have been rectified. If Crunch does end up resigning, I will be sad to see him go. He above all others with the exception of myself and Deo who have to decide when someone actually gets unbanned has faced more hate and trolling than anyone else on the US1 team and has handled it far better than most would. He has become a great admin since he was added to the roster, and is both fair and logical in his decisions when it comes to banning and punishment. He even gives warnings when he's not supposed to. -_-

At any rate, as I said before. I take full responsibility for all actions taken by my team.

Unless you are a previous 92nd member, i dont know you personally. However, i (on behalf of all who wish me to) would like to say that this isn't a witch hunt, those who are iunnocent, respectfull and caring of the communities opinions, shouldnt be put in a position that they feel the need to apologize, again, Hekko didn't want this to be a witch hunt. If americans think you are at fault then that's another issue But, at least in my opinion, this is an issue with the devs rather than a few rogue admins who fuck shit up.

Maybe i'm wrong, in which case, as always, my disclaimer is just ignore me and say im a cock.

[Jacob]

Completely agree with you Millander, making a thread like this is only going to be worse for the community, it has gone from pointing out flaws in a civil manner, to picking as many holes as you can because something as little as retiring the 51st number has rubbed you up the wrong way or something.

It looks to me more like anger and resentment. If they were happy with the way things were run it wouldn't be satisfying to complain. The 51st number seems more like a trigger than a cause to me.

The 51st number? Or the 51st in-game regiment which we paid for?

Number that a regiment was called, not the in game class

[ThatSillyLucas]

Please dont involve the french anthem to this topic its out of the context :p

[Tiberius Decimus Maximus]

I rarely get involved in this community, except for a few isolated jaunts into Mount and Blade: Napoleonic Wars, but recent events have caught my attention here. And while I get why there is some internal conflict within the "revolutionaries", as it were, I think it is valuable to take a step back and marvel at this:

"The main administrator of the forum actually made his girlfriend an administrator."

For those who defend them on behalf of the fact that they made the game, well, you would have been right a couple years ago when the group was a non-commercial modding group. However, they are now a fully independent, commercial game development studio, and they should put on their big boy britches, mature to criticism, and act like it.

That's my two cents. I'll be generous to myself and call it reason. 'Tis easy to get caught up in all this, so I thought I'd share my thoughts, is all. Hopefully I will be allowed to continue doing so in the days ahead. Thank you for your consideration.

[Dasvi2018]

You guys do all realize that we can't gain control of the public servers or forums - no matter how long this debate goes on for - don't you?

I do, what i want is equal respect for all. I don't want any praise or position I just want a civil community (This is the oath  )

[Connzcdf]

Remember those souls we have lost, for questioning the hierarchy.
#biggun
#dan
#jezza
#craig

[Vorlen]

You guys do all realize that we can't gain control of the public servers or forums - no matter how long this debate goes on for - don't you?

I think alot of the 'vets' don't care about this, sorry. Many regiments have the ability to host servers(infact the 200 man battle servers ruin battle, too big, too messy, imo), and probably 60%+ of this thread dont play battle anymore since NW.

Groupfighting( Hekko's ideal, as the one who formulates the EU cup and GF tournies) has become the preffered place to play for many players. All that is is another negative that FSE does little to foster this community it says it supports, when it does nothing to help towards the competitve multiplayer spirit of a multiplayer focused DLC it made.

[Blade]

Remember those souls we have lost, for questioning the hierarchy.
#biggun
#dan
#jezza
#craig

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[Chosen1]

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Anyways, I disagree. Just don't get into trouble, don't start drama and just worry about yourself and you'll be fine.

[MaHuD]

Remember those souls we have lost, for questioning the hierarchy.
#biggun
#dan
#jezza
#craig

Hate to bring it to you lad, but Dan was hardly trying to do anything he believed in. Unless he believes in trolling of course.

If you look at Hekko's OP, you will surely  notice the grand difference between approuches and also between what kind of end result both people would like to see.

[GrantyPooh]

Remember those souls we have lost, for questioning the hierarchy.
#biggun
#dan
#jezza
#craig

and #cherry

[Jacob]

For all of you who sent me abusive steam messages, I got at least 6, please stop, just because I do not agree with Hekko.