The community deserves better

[TORN]

As since this thread has been posted i've seen moderators watching this thread.
I guess they're going mental in PM's or in teamspeak.
I think i speak for alot of people when I say.

We want a response!

[Akira]

How about you get off your high horse, asshole.

You pretty much just went ahead and gave proof to my earlier point.

Well done, sir.

Point is proven, Every one here is starting to get balls of steel and telling the utmost truth to tell people to fuck off.

[Audiate]

 No no, now this isn't even right. Guys, calm down, and try to resolve this. This is seriously turning into the most retarded thing ever (and I use retarded with the definition provided in your average dictionary): an internet war. Look better upon yourselves, all you, loyalists and rebels alike, for I have no intent on picking either side, because both are so flawed and so biased beyond disrepair. For this reason, I declare myself a free, separate state of neutralist, that I wish for this to all be mutually appeased, in that I've had enough, and I'm sure there are several others who agree with me, with half the balls I do to declare it. That said, don't pick sides. Just make things better.

[Death by EMP]

I am not sure how I am on a high horse when I pretty much publicly admitted that I am no better than anyone else and I am getting rather tired of being an admin because of being publicly idolized. All of you need to grow up.

[Blade]

Kitty is not an community manager anymore.
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=4869

*This is the message from our beloved Daniel*

She is still an admin and the only reason for it is because of her relation with Vince.

[Modig]

Alright, I know this is mostly a EU thing, but I feel this needs to be posted, because all of you are really starting to annoy me. I will also like to say that I am posting this as me and not an official admin. 

Okay, before I discuss about anything else I would like to get the thing that bothers me most out of the way.

I have not that much experience with the US administrative policy, some of the recent choices make me wonder though how the American side chooses admins, and from what I have heard from other admins that play on US1 at times as well, is that some of the new US1 admins are tripping balls with their new adminpowers, waiting for opportunities to flex their strength for the least offence.

Who the fuck are you to talk about the US administration when not a single admin I have spoke to has ever seen you on US1 before. As far as I am concerned, you have absolutely no place to talk about the US admin team. I feel sorry for the EU admin team that you are even acting this way while being an admin. In case you have forgotten, which you clearly have not since you talk so much about the professionalism administration is so important, you are acting completely out of line in accordance to admin regulations. I hope that someone sane enough sees that you are in no shape to hold the responsibility of admin, if you cannot even keep yourself professional in public. The same thing could be said about the EU admin team, but at least we have the respect to not talk about it in public, and rather keep it through PMs like we are supposed to do. The way you have presented yourself in this thread immediately shows me that you have no concern for the community and rather you wish to bash everyone you can possibly think of something to bash them about, for your own personal "Internet glory". This is absolutely unacceptable.

Now to address everyone rather than just the OP.

Have you all lost your minds?! We are playing a GAME this is not a bloody government! I don't care how many people know you in a online game that has no point at all in the world except to give others enjoyment. We are not building some kind of internet social hierarchy. Nobody is better than someone else. None of you have any right to tell FSE what to do with the community, and FSE has no right to tell the community to do. All you guys are doing is arguing over the most pointless in meaningless things in this life. This game is not real life. I can honestly and shamelessly say that Napoleonic Wars and Warband have been a enormous part of my life. Especially this past year. I spend hours a day playing and admining US1, so everyone can enjoy the game like it should be. I probably play more than just about 95% of the players. I spend countless hours of my free-time on this game and NEVER have I feet any amount of importance to anything. You should not either. I think we could all agree that Diplex is the most known NW player. That does not make him some kind of spokesperson or official. It does not make him any more important than you or I. So those of you acting as though you are some kind of icon and that if you say something FSE should listen and respond, you are completely out of your mind. You all are starting to disgust and annoy me with your constant rants and crying like children about how FSE is not doing things right with the community. FSE did not make the freaking community, you guys did. FSE made the game. You...Us. we made this community, and anything we feel is wrong, is our fault. Leave FSE alone about the community. Yes, they may have had some out there business practices with the community, but I think they have since learned. If you feel so strongly about FSE, going on THEIR forums and basically calling them useless is not going to solve anything. FSE is ABSOLUTELY taking the right path by telling you guys to pm all concerns to them. They DO deal with them. Just because something is not done the way you want it does not mean you have a right to decry the developers of this wonderful game, who were kind enough to give you a game for a cheap price that has stayed with you for such a long time. You cannot deny that you like this game, if you are so concerned about the community around it.

So in conclusion of what I have asked of you guys, please, for the sake of all of us, stop making fools of yourselves and just enjoy the damn game, and if you feel you can no longer find enjoyment in it, stop playing it. Nobody is making you play this game, and you all need to grow up and realize that.

If one of the developers or lead admins finds what I posted is wrong, I will gladly step down, because at least I might actually be able to enjoy the game without people acting as if I am some sort of idol. I just want to play and enjoy the game, I don't want people to watch and critique my every move.

Lol. You are as contradictory as one can get. Gtfo troll 

[Wolfy]

Vince has not posted yet because if he makes a mistake then BCoF will most likely fail.His project is based on the community funding the game.So no community,no game.

[Evanovic]

Who the fuck are you to talk about the US administration when not a single admin I have spoke to has ever seen you on US1 before. As far as I am concerned, you have absolutely no place to talk about the US admin team. I feel sorry for the EU admin team that you are even acting this way while being an admin. In case you have forgotten, which you clearly have not since you talk so much about the professionalism administration is so important, you are acting completely out of line in accordance to admin regulations. I hope that someone sane enough sees that you are in no shape to hold the responsibility of admin, if you cannot even keep yourself professional in public. The same thing could be said about the EU admin team, but at least we have the respect to not talk about it in public, and rather keep it through PMs like we are supposed to do. The way you have presented yourself in this thread immediately shows me that you have no concern for the community and rather you wish to bash everyone you can possibly think of something to bash them about, for your own personal "Internet glory". This is absolutely unacceptable.

There are plenty of eyes watching the practice of the newer US administration, not just Hekko's. Take my post as whichever insinuation you want.

[Death by EMP]

No no, now this isn't even right. Guys, calm down, and try to resolve this. This is seriously turning into the most retarded thing ever (and I use retarded with the definition provided in your average dictionary): an internet war. Look better upon yourselves, all you, loyalists and rebels alike, for I have no intent on picking either side, because both are so flawed and so biased beyond disrepair. For this reason, I declare myself a free, separate state of neutralist, that I wish for this to all be mutually appeased, in that I've had enough, and I'm sure there are several others who agree with me, with half the balls I do to declare it. That said, don't pick sides. Just make things better.

I did the same Audiate, as I clealry stated I did not like the practices either sides were using.

[Dasvi2018]

OK things are on the balance now. Win and we will change the community forever, lose and BCoF will be done forever. (And don't bring popcorns)

[Althalus]

I must say, this started out with a good motive. I am still here, I am still supporting reform, but not like this. Soon enough this thread will die, and everything will go back to how it was, if we keep going the way we're going.
This needs to happen.
But not like this, boys. Not like this.

/Dramatic speech

[Odysseus]

OK things are on the balance now. Win and we will change the community forever, lose and BCoF will be done forever. (And don't bring popcorns)

The problem is that the mods haven't replied and until then, this is going to continue.

[Nipplestockings]

You are 100% correct, Hekko. It's also amusing how many people in this thread are suddenly agreeing with Hekko when they've been sucking admin dick for ages, playing along with the bullshit, and generally helping this game sink lower than the titanic.

There's no way in hell I'm buying BCOF in state things are now.

[Audiate]

OK things are on the balance now. Win and we will change the community forever, lose and BCoF will be done forever. (And don't bring popcorns)

 Win? Lose? This isn't a game of chess, but if it is, our objective is to meet a stalemate!

 NEITHER SIDE HAS ANYTHING TO WIN, BOTH SIDES HAVE EVERYTHING TO LOSE. SO THINK.

[Rigadoon]

Perhaps I've just been out of the loop recently, but admin misconduct has rarely affected my ingame or community experience in a negative way. Perhaps their system of selecting and promoting admins is fault but I have to ask, is it really that bad? Have you actually suffered from it? Perhaps there are those who have but from what I've seen, if the admin is truly at fault, the situation is quickly resolved and the admin makes sure not to make the same mistakes again.