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Title: Napoleonic Wars Battle Championship [NWBC]
Post by: Michael Fish on March 22, 2015, 05:34:00 pm
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You're looking at this and thinking another NWL clone. You're wrong.
Ok, so What the hell is this?
The NWBC Is a league, similar to that of the NWL but with one spectacular difference. The NWBC expects it's teams to field 80 members spreading across 5-6 units. It will bring large regiments together and combine them into powerful forces, and pit them against each other and create incredible battles with a tactical dynamic where communication will be one of many keys to victory.

Main Staff
Head Organiser: Fish
Co-Organisers: Etherton + Tenford
Admins
Fish

                     
General Rules
subject to change
  • All battles must be admined by an Admin team, if not they will be discounted.
  • Only Large maps will be used, both regiment (not detachment) leaders must agree
  • No bonuses.
  • battles are best of 3.
  • Both regiments must agree on an Admin team.
  • Battles must be within the given match week. No earlier, no later
  • White chat is only to be used by Regiment and Detachment commanders, for questions and concerns that need to be be directed to an admin, nothing else.
  • Admin's decisions are not to be disputed in a match, but instead to be brought to a organizer afterwards.
  • If one team appears, they get a 3-0 win, if neither it is a tie.
  • No Invites
  • All Charges may only be called when the following criteria is met
                         - There is less than 15 people on each side
                         - The timer is past 45 minutes
                         - There is no cavalry alive on the battlefield
                         - The bulk of the remnant is line infantry, at least 7 infantrymen (not including artillery)
                     
Servers, Sponsors and Contacts
Could use some ;)
                     



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Line Infantry may...
    • Not Fire in charge
    • Not Officer Aim
    • Keep in a Line formation, no gaps, blobs and squares are counted as formations.
    • Musicians and Flag Bearers are allowed, but remember it detracts from your overall amount of muskets.
    • Fire in formation, if there's a gap it's not a formation.
       

A team may have...
Any variety of lines that equates to 50



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Cavalry may...
    • Pick all classes accepted apart from Dragoons
    • Must dismount when they have 3 or less (that's inclusive)
    • Continuing the charge is allowed,that means finish off the unit your fighting,
      don't head over to a nearby unit or the arty
    • Maintain Cohesion*     
       
Generals may...
    Scout for the Team
    Take the General Class, and only the General Class
    Must keep a good distance from enemy Units, not going right up and teasing them
    Must not enagage unless with friendly cavalry, or dismounted with infantry

A team may have...
12 Cavalry
1 General
   


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Skirmishers May...
    • Have a maximum of 5 man spacing
    • Fire in charge
    • Officer Aim
    • maintain Cohesion
Light Infantry May...
    • have a maximum of 2 man Spacing
    • not Officer Aim
    • maintain Cohesion
A team may have...
10 Riflemen
or
10 Light Infantry
A mix of the two is not permitted.

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Artillery may...
    • May use either howitzers or cannon but may not take more than 2 artillery pieces in total.
    • Artillery guards may fight as skirmishers but should stick close to the guns under normal circumstances.
    • Arty Guards must fight as line when leaving the Artillery Position./li]
      • Sapper defenses must be reasonable, plank glitches are OK as long as you're not blocked in, and no floating earthworks etc

      A team may have...
      A total of 8, split into:
          2 Rankers
          2 Trains
          1 Sapper
          1 Officer
          2 Guards
                       

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Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on March 22, 2015, 05:34:08 pm
ROUND 3

IVe - Triangle Coalition
Franco Suisse - Four Banners
K-KKY +Nr77 - 2Lhr


(https://i.imgur.com/RkHMXJM.png)

Videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLe_0hMgNig&ab_channel=PeterDuke

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS-mrsUUiHs
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on March 22, 2015, 05:34:16 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/uBxbrbM.png)

KKY+Nr77
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fecx.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FI%2F51Xn9cDLPuL.jpg&hash=e911f7a368dc29633c263af144418d2c8589642f)
Consisting of:
The K-KA
The 77y

Franco-Suisse Coalition
Captained by Etherton (https://steamcommunity.com/id/Brig_Etherton/)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.telegraph.co.uk%2Fnews%2Ffiles%2F2013%2F01%2FScreen-Shot-2013-01-22-at-10.44.12.png&hash=e81407a3acde64699c3a050a9b8929028c438cc1)
Consisting of:
The Suisse
The 63e
The 16e

The 2nd 'Queens Own' Regiment
Captained by Curly Connor (https://steamcommunity.com/id/2nd-CurlyConnor//)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.royalwelsh.org.uk%2Ffiles%2Fimg%2Ftimeline%2Fb3-1.jpg&hash=cb80b9a9e87296201f33d95c8b24280d625ef675)
Consisting of:
The 2nd

The IVe Corps
Captined by Bastien (https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197988994603/)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg11.hostingpics.net%2Fpics%2F532033headerbgCopie2.jpg&hash=d32b9c8ededa1fbedceb8453baa8d20d83f95410)
Consisting of: 45e ,
2e grenadiers,
5e voltigeurs,
7e hussards,
9e artillerie

The Ve Corps
Captained by Velociraptor   (https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198024034908/)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi74.servimg.com%2Fu%2Ff74%2F17%2F11%2F19%2F07%2Fgw2_mo10.jpg&hash=6a2e6ebb316c20160c541457ef976c15abde2a02)
Consisting of :
16e,
3eRC,
7eFlq
2e Léger
Etoile


2. Leib-Husaren Regiment[/center]
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmodels2u.co.uk%2FShop%2Fcontents%2Fmedia%2Fl_8079_prussian_hussars.jpg&hash=e27f82884b9974c25988c8c49f4d78c07e003b2f)
Consisting of: The 2lhr

The Four Banners
Captained by Smollett (https://steamcommunity.com/id/78thSmollett/)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi61.tinypic.com%2F24pja5g.jpg&hash=d143cd673db8fd12e8df93ebc69c89ed84eb6e98)
Consisting of: The 78th
The Spartan Hoplites
The 15th Yorkshire
The 4e Hussars
The Triangle Coalition
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.napoleon-series.org%2Fimages%2Fmilitary%2Forganization%2Fspanishart%2Fspanart9a.JPG&hash=24649e96720f888ba31d9a386c127ae7fb1a6353)
Consisting of:
Miquelets
65y
3pp
47th
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Chieef on March 22, 2015, 05:37:03 pm
Good luck!
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Josh Faraday on March 22, 2015, 08:14:53 pm
WIP
yeah
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: USE4life on March 22, 2015, 10:00:40 pm
Reserved
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on March 22, 2015, 10:17:07 pm
There we go, the two TBC coalitions are just deciding on the name. First Match week begins on the 30th, but i really do need more admin teams. Please PM me applications.
Remember, shit talking to a minimum on this thread, that's what the other one's for
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: PrideofNi on March 23, 2015, 11:57:32 am
30th of March?
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Tenford on March 23, 2015, 03:29:57 pm
30th of March?

The week of the 30th of March, the match can be on 3rd or 4th of April
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Moi~ on March 23, 2015, 06:34:46 pm
Great job guys, looks awesome :D
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on March 23, 2015, 06:51:53 pm
30th of March?
Yeah, if that's an issue i can push it back a week; not sure if it clashes with final NLC week.

Also, all coalitions have been announced and are on the thread, a few very scary ones in there imo (not gonna name names ;) )

Still need Admins, Streamers, and Recorders, feel free to PM me or catch me on steam if interested.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Gaidrem on March 23, 2015, 07:39:04 pm
Nice post. The competition looks so awesome.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Velociraptor on March 23, 2015, 08:18:22 pm
Very nice post !  ;)
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: SwissGronkh on March 23, 2015, 08:40:35 pm
Nice Thread
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Josh Faraday on March 24, 2015, 01:47:16 pm
Nice Thread , Good Luck :)
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Zahari on March 24, 2015, 02:25:38 pm
10 cav max ? :o
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on March 24, 2015, 05:17:59 pm
10 cav max ? :o
Yeah, the specialist slots have been limited to 10, as 15 skirmishers can easily tear through a line of 25, it's the same with cavalry; a good cavalry regiment can tear through a line twice it's size (Yes even when they're in an anti cav formation.
The idea is to focus on units working together, by reducing the specialists we make them vulnerable, a glass cannon if you will.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on March 24, 2015, 06:36:37 pm
Brackets are listed  here  (http://challonge.com/NWBC)
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Griff Redstorm on March 24, 2015, 06:37:55 pm
10 cav max ? :o
Yeah

Nr3 is out, thanks for accepting us in first hand.

Spoiler
I am sorry but that entire sentence is... absurd. Also; if you want to limit specialists, why artillery have 10, which is too many imo.And please consider most cavalry doesnt have firearms to shoot around and one volley from 25 can basically kill 4-5 cavalry man at least.(dont come and tell me ''no fire in charge'' it doesnt matter which rule you put somebody will do it anyway, we saw examples of it many times.) I would understand in 60v60 10 cav would be quite acceptable but in 90v90, with that amount of lines and that amount of arty...meh, there is a reason why 15 is acceptable limit around. I mean, we decided to come and play to be effective, to help our coalition to win linebattles, whatever, not just sit there and stand 1 officer+1 flag bearer+8 ranker. Another reason why we pulled out is having a regiment who usually gets 16-17 men in events, we dont want to put  big part of our men sitting in spec, but thats another story.   
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In the end, no hard feelings, sorry for the grammar, and i hope you will be succesfull with your event  ;)
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: USE4life on March 24, 2015, 06:47:56 pm
10 cav max ? :o
Yeah

Nr3 is out, thanks for accepting us in first hand.

Spoiler
I am sorry but that entire sentence is... absurd. Also; if you want to limit specialists, why artillery have 10, which is too many imo.And please consider most cavalry doesnt have firearms to shoot around and one volley from 25 can basically kill 4-5 cavalry man at least.(dont come and tell me ''no fire in charge'' it doesnt matter which rule you put somebody will do it anyway, we saw examples of it many times.) I would understand in 60v60 10 cav would be quite acceptable but in 90v90, with that amount of lines and that amount of arty...meh, there is a reason why 15 is acceptable limit around. I mean, we decided to come and play to be effective, to help our coalition to win linebattles, whatever, not just sit there and stand 1 officer+1 flag bearer+8 ranker. Another reason why we pulled out is having a regiment who usually gets 16-17 men in events, we dont want to put  big part of our men sitting in spec, but thats another story.   
[close]

In the end, no hard feelings, sorry for the grammar, and i hope you will be succesfull with your event  ;)

10 arty is only two cannons and some guards. I thought 8 originally was enough but Fish leads a arty regiment. In regards to Cav I'd love 15 but as an infantry player I know that's OP. You do too Griff.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on March 24, 2015, 06:51:03 pm
10 cav max ? :o
Yeah

Nr3 is out, thanks for accepting us in first hand.

Spoiler
I am sorry but that entire sentence is... absurd. Also; if you want to limit specialists, why artillery have 10, which is too many imo.And please consider most cavalry doesnt have firearms to shoot around and one volley from 25 can basically kill 4-5 cavalry man at least.(dont come and tell me ''no fire in charge'' it doesnt matter which rule you put somebody will do it anyway, we saw examples of it many times.) I would understand in 60v60 10 cav would be quite acceptable but in 90v90, with that amount of lines and that amount of arty...meh, there is a reason why 15 is acceptable limit around. I mean, we decided to come and play to be effective, to help our coalition to win linebattles, whatever, not just sit there and stand 1 officer+1 flag bearer+8 ranker. Another reason why we pulled out is having a regiment who usually gets 16-17 men in events, we dont want to put  big part of our men sitting in spec, but thats another story.   
[close]

In the end, no hard feelings, sorry for the grammar, and i hope you will be succesfull with your event  ;)
I'm not gonna turn this into an argument, although i will re-iterate these points:
Artillery was put at 10 for a few reasons, mainly because it simply helps with numbers.
It's 80 vs 80 ;)

Either way, it's not me you need to apologize to, it's Price. With less than a week to the start of the tournament you pull out, that royally screws him over...

Edit: Big thanks to the 16e's cav, who were willing to step in last minute and replace the nr3.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Griff Redstorm on March 24, 2015, 07:01:47 pm
I'm not gonna turn this into an argument, although i will re-iterate these points:
Artillery was put at 10 for a few reasons, mainly because it simply helps with numbers.
It's 80 vs 80 ;)

Either way, it's not me you need to apologize to, it's Price. With less than a week to the start of the tournament you pull out, that royally screws him over...

Edit: Big thanks to the 16e's cav, who were willing to step in last minute and replace the nr3.

You say you wont turn into argument, but you are ranting about ''screwing coalitions'' ?? Interesting. Nope, you are talking about something which you have no idea. Around late February (WEEKS ago) i had conversation with him -your co organizer- about all of this 10 cavalry limit, and answer i got was...err, lets say different. Now today, we see something else. Best communication ever.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Erik le Rouge on March 24, 2015, 07:19:53 pm
I do agree with the fact that allowing only 10 cavalrymen on the field in a 160-men battle is a bad idea. I really don't see 15 cavalrymen being particularly OP against line infantry. We've always done 15 cav max during pretty much every decent event, and this since Mount & Musket, and many times have I seen lines repelling the cavalry with a good formation. It all depends on which regiment charges which regiment, but 15 men is not OP.
Just my two cents, I don't mean to start any harsh debate. But I don't think you would spoil the infantry regiments' fun by allowing 5 more cavalrymen to partake to the event, while you would let the cav regiments enjoy it more.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Carolus. on March 24, 2015, 07:43:14 pm
15 OP. Keep it to 10. Cav is not supposed to charge a 25man line anyways.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: DarkLight on March 25, 2015, 01:09:05 am
I do agree with the fact that allowing only 10 cavalrymen on the field in a 160-men battle is a bad idea. I really don't see 15 cavalrymen being particularly OP against line infantry. We've always done 15 cav max during pretty much every decent event, and this since Mount & Musket, and many times have I seen lines repelling the cavalry with a good formation. It all depends on which regiment charges which regiment, but 15 men is not OP.
Just my two cents, I don't mean to start any harsh debate. But I don't think you would spoil the infantry regiments' fun by allowing 5 more cavalrymen to partake to the event, while you would let the cav regiments enjoy it more.
+1

15 Its not OP, With 25 man lines forming anti cav formation plus shooting the cavalry gets destroyed pretty much.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Carolus. on March 25, 2015, 02:40:19 am
I do agree with the fact that allowing only 10 cavalrymen on the field in a 160-men battle is a bad idea. I really don't see 15 cavalrymen being particularly OP against line infantry. We've always done 15 cav max during pretty much every decent event, and this since Mount & Musket, and many times have I seen lines repelling the cavalry with a good formation. It all depends on which regiment charges which regiment, but 15 men is not OP.
Just my two cents, I don't mean to start any harsh debate. But I don't think you would spoil the infantry regiments' fun by allowing 5 more cavalrymen to partake to the event, while you would let the cav regiments enjoy it more.
+1

15 Its not OP, With 25 man lines forming anti cav formation plus shooting the cavalry gets destroyed pretty much.

It depends on the line and the cav(the skill level). If you play as cav somewhat often you know that anti-cav formations like squares and blobbing up is useless and only favors the cav. Keep it to 10.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Zahari on March 25, 2015, 10:05:26 am
If u have 10 ppl u dont have space for mistake. 10 cav are good only for 1 charge .
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Thorvic on March 25, 2015, 02:13:21 pm
Just to know, how many players can we bring at maximum / minimum ?
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: DarkLight on March 25, 2015, 03:51:02 pm
I do agree with the fact that allowing only 10 cavalrymen on the field in a 160-men battle is a bad idea. I really don't see 15 cavalrymen being particularly OP against line infantry. We've always done 15 cav max during pretty much every decent event, and this since Mount & Musket, and many times have I seen lines repelling the cavalry with a good formation. It all depends on which regiment charges which regiment, but 15 men is not OP.
Just my two cents, I don't mean to start any harsh debate. But I don't think you would spoil the infantry regiments' fun by allowing 5 more cavalrymen to partake to the event, while you would let the cav regiments enjoy it more.
+1

15 Its not OP, With 25 man lines forming anti cav formation plus shooting the cavalry gets destroyed pretty much.

It depends on the line and the cav(the skill level). If you play as cav somewhat often you know that anti-cav formations like squares and blobbing up is useless and only favors the cav. Keep it to 10.

Blobbing up its useless? Well, 25 man forming a blob and shooting against just 15 hussars will make a short work of them, and i know it well because i have hundreds of linebattles played as a calvaryman, you can ask any other cavalry player and they will say the same.

Also, a 10 man cap will be just unfunny for the cavalry regiments, we cant bring our full numbers and all we could its wait half an hour for the melee and probably get shooted in the process.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Rhen on March 25, 2015, 04:06:33 pm
Griff, as he, himself, stated, did not intend to create a debate; only formally explain that we will pull out from this event for reasons you can look at in his post. Whatever the other regiments decide to do, is up to them, but there's no point in having this debate, which is undesired by the organisers and co-organisers. Let it be, or leave it. :)
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Zahari on March 25, 2015, 04:07:58 pm
I do agree with the fact that allowing only 10 cavalrymen on the field in a 160-men battle is a bad idea. I really don't see 15 cavalrymen being particularly OP against line infantry. We've always done 15 cav max during pretty much every decent event, and this since Mount & Musket, and many times have I seen lines repelling the cavalry with a good formation. It all depends on which regiment charges which regiment, but 15 men is not OP.
Just my two cents, I don't mean to start any harsh debate. But I don't think you would spoil the infantry regiments' fun by allowing 5 more cavalrymen to partake to the event, while you would let the cav regiments enjoy it more.
+1

15 Its not OP, With 25 man lines forming anti cav formation plus shooting the cavalry gets destroyed pretty much.

It depends on the line and the cav(the skill level). If you play as cav somewhat often you know that anti-cav formations like squares and blobbing up is useless and only favors the cav. Keep it to 10.

Blobbing up its useless? Well, 25 man forming a blob and shooting against just 15 hussars will make a short work of them, and i know it well because i have hundreds of linebattles played as a calvaryman, you can ask any other cavalry player and they will say the same.

Also, a 10 man cap will be just unfunny for the cavalry regiments, we cant bring our full numbers and all we could its wait half an hour for the melee and probably get shooted in the process.
+ 1 Dark, its true
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: USE4life on March 25, 2015, 04:16:41 pm
All the cav players want 15 all the inf players want 10. What is there more of?
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: SwissGronkh on March 25, 2015, 04:21:07 pm
How about 12 cavalry? ;)
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Zahari on March 25, 2015, 04:44:42 pm
All the cav players want 15 all the inf players want 10. What is there more of?
10 cav and 10 arty... pls...
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on March 25, 2015, 05:18:11 pm
All the cav players want 15 all the inf players want 10. What is there more of?
10 cav and 10 arty... pls...
Ok the way i see it there are  solutions to this:
1. Keep it as it is.

2. Raise Cav to 15 and reduce line inf by 5

3. Reduce Artillery to 7/8 and raise cav to 12/13

1 is my more favoured option, and 2 is a no go, but 3 i may be willing to do if it has enough support
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Velociraptor on March 25, 2015, 06:58:02 pm
All the cav players want 15 all the inf players want 10. What is there more of?
10 cav and 10 arty... pls...
Ok the way i see it there are  solutions to this:
1. Keep it as it is.

2. Raise Cav to 15 and reduce line inf by 5

3. Reduce Artillery to 7/8 and raise cav to 12/13

1 is my more favoured option, and 2 is a no go, but 3 i may be willing to do if it has enough support
Me, I prefer the option 2 but I think every option are good  with out the 3nd one ;)
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Zahari on March 25, 2015, 07:09:02 pm
why not 50-line 15-cav 10-arty 10 or 15-skirm
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on March 25, 2015, 07:14:20 pm
why not 50-line 15-cav 10-arty 10 or 15-skirm
that raises us to 170 players in game, plus additional refs specs and streamers it brings it up to 175-180. We agreed at 160 players to reduce lag, i don't want to increase it over 170 people.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Zahari on March 25, 2015, 07:41:32 pm
+5 to cav = 170 it won't change anything. (Im talking about lags)
Ofc if we will add spects and streamers than we can have some issues but if you won't increase cav to 15 you will just have more spects and it will be the same
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on March 25, 2015, 08:06:03 pm
+5 to cav = 170 it won't change anything. (Im talking about lags)
Ofc if we will add spects and streamers than we can have some issues but if you won't increase cav to 15 you will just have more spects and it will be the same
Yes i will, there will be no spectators in this, apart from the admins, 1 or 2 exceptions and streamers, the spec will never exceed 5 people.
From my experience with mount and blade, beyond 150 every person adds extra lag, so i want to keep it as low as possible to that extent.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Tenford on March 25, 2015, 09:24:06 pm
ROUND 1

Ve - Triangle Coalition
The 2nd 'Queens Own' Reg - KKY+Nr77
British Army - France>Prussia
IVe - 2. Leib-Hussaren Regiment
Hispanic Coalition- Four Banners
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Velociraptor on March 25, 2015, 09:27:41 pm
I've got 2 questions :
-For the date of the matches, will be imposed date or like in the NWL we must choose the date ?
-How many mens of difference for the balance ?
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Tenford on March 25, 2015, 09:30:22 pm
I've got 2 questions :
-For the date of the matches, will be imposed date or like in the NWL we must choose the date ?
-How many mens of difference for the balance ?

For example, the round 1 is the next week, so the teams have to speak with the enemy and say what day of that week they will play. But they have to play during that week.
Second, is a 80vs80 so, you have to bring 80 men, 75 vs 80 maybe isnt a problem, but all the teams have more than 80 men
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on March 25, 2015, 09:30:33 pm
I've got 2 questions :
-For the date of the matches, will be imposed date or like in the NWL we must choose the date ?
-How many mens of difference for the balance ?
You pick the days, after sitting down with the other coalition captain (to be added for some) and the head admin of your admin team to decide.

I have said this god knows how many times, no balancing at all. 80vs80. You don't bring the numbers but they do? Well they play with 80 and you don't, or you give them a 3-0 win

Edit: Tenford 2fast5 me
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Tenford on March 25, 2015, 09:39:12 pm
I've got 2 questions :
-For the date of the matches, will be imposed date or like in the NWL we must choose the date ?
-How many mens of difference for the balance ?
You pick the days, after sitting down with the other coalition captain (to be added for some) and the head admin of your admin team to decide.

I have said this god knows how many times, no balancing at all. 80vs80. You don't bring the numbers but they do? Well they play with 80 and you don't, or you give them a 3-0 win

Edit: Tenford 2fast5 me
2fast..5? my english died with that
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Velociraptor on March 25, 2015, 09:44:40 pm
I've got 2 questions :
-For the date of the matches, will be imposed date or like in the NWL we must choose the date ?
-How many mens of difference for the balance ?

For example, the round 1 is the next week, so the teams have to speak with the enemy and say what day of that week they will play. But they have to play during that week.
Second, is a 80vs80 so, you have to bring 80 men, 75 vs 80 maybe isnt a problem, but all the teams have more than 80 men
But can we have teamspeak or a steam link and what is the Triangle Coalition ? there are not in the list
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Tenford on March 25, 2015, 09:45:59 pm
I've got 2 questions :
-For the date of the matches, will be imposed date or like in the NWL we must choose the date ?
-How many mens of difference for the balance ?

For example, the round 1 is the next week, so the teams have to speak with the enemy and say what day of that week they will play. But they have to play during that week.
Second, is a 80vs80 so, you have to bring 80 men, 75 vs 80 maybe isnt a problem, but all the teams have more than 80 men
But can we have teamspeak or a steam link and what is the Triangle Coalition ? there are not in the list

the new "Brigada Española", but their members are Miquelets+65y+3pp you can add: Miquelets_Guifré on steam
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Velociraptor on March 25, 2015, 09:47:01 pm
I've got 2 questions :
-For the date of the matches, will be imposed date or like in the NWL we must choose the date ?
-How many mens of difference for the balance ?

For example, the round 1 is the next week, so the teams have to speak with the enemy and say what day of that week they will play. But they have to play during that week.
Second, is a 80vs80 so, you have to bring 80 men, 75 vs 80 maybe isnt a problem, but all the teams have more than 80 men
But can we have teamspeak or a steam link and what is the Triangle Coalition ? there are not in the list

the new "Brigada Española", but their members are Miquelets+65y+3pp you can add: Miquelets_Guifré on steam
Thank you  ;)
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on March 27, 2015, 12:15:59 pm
Remember when organising your match, post on here and ensure to get an admin team.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Velociraptor on March 28, 2015, 02:46:48 pm
The match Ve vs Triangle Coalition will be Tuesday 31 at 8.30 p.m. GMT +1
We doesn't have any admin...
For the server we must host or is there a server for the event ?
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: John Price on March 28, 2015, 03:01:04 pm
We might have to pull out of this. 18e has had internal troubles not to mention we need a light infantry regiment anyway.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on March 28, 2015, 03:17:55 pm
The match Ve vs Triangle Coalition will be Tuesday 31 at 8.30 p.m. GMT +1
We doesn't have any admin...
For the server we must host or is there a server for the event ?

I have servers for it, and TVS re-united can admin your match
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Velociraptor on March 28, 2015, 03:41:49 pm
The match Ve vs Triangle Coalition will be Tuesday 31 at 8.30 p.m. GMT +1
We doesn't have any admin...
For the server we must host or is there a server for the event ?

I have servers for it, and TVS re-united can admin your match
Ok exellent thank
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Tenford on March 28, 2015, 04:02:48 pm
Hispanic Coalition vs Four Banners on Sunday 5th (19:00 GMT). Looking for an admin team
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Smollett on March 28, 2015, 06:28:28 pm
Hispanic Coalition vs Four Banners on Sunday 5th (19:00 GMT). Looking for an admin team

Looking forwards to it :)
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on March 29, 2015, 01:43:24 am
We might have to pull out of this. 18e has had internal troubles not to mention we need a light infantry regiment anyway.
Is that a definite?
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: John Price on March 29, 2015, 01:49:59 am
We might have to pull out of this. 18e has had internal troubles not to mention we need a light infantry regiment anyway.
Is that a definite?
Yea, I just personally dont have the time anymore and the 18e is more a part time regiment than a full on one. We do 2 events a week and people just really would not want to do this.

EDIT: Especially since out attendance has gone from ~30 to 15-23
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on March 29, 2015, 03:00:25 am
We might have to pull out of this. 18e has had internal troubles not to mention we need a light infantry regiment anyway.
Is that a definite?
Yea, I just personally dont have the time anymore and the 18e is more a part time regiment than a full on one. We do 2 events a week and people just really would not want to do this.

EDIT: Especially since out attendance has gone from ~30 to 15-23
Understood, i cri. You dropping out as an organiser as well or not?
Also i'll re-do the league  on Challonge in a bit to omit France>Prussia, we'll do 9 weeks everyone plays everyone. We'll use the Byes system so the one regiment left out each week will get an automatic win (Before you complain, everyone will be left out at some point, so you will all get 3 points.)
Those who have already established their matches, i'll seed to ensure are playing this week, the others will have their matches randomized again
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: John Price on March 29, 2015, 03:06:25 am
if the 16e grabs new allies im sure they will carry on.

I will stay as organiser
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on March 29, 2015, 03:07:07 am
if the 16e grabs new allies im sure they will carry on.

I will stay as organiser
With a days notice? To grab a light and line? I guess they could; i'll speak to Charles
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: John Price on March 29, 2015, 03:08:11 am
I needed to find a light anyway so that didnt change much :P
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on March 29, 2015, 03:22:24 am
I needed to find a light anyway so that didnt change much :P
Yeah, Charles is looking for another Line and Light or skirmishers, message him on steam or reply here if interested.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on March 30, 2015, 01:11:07 am
Welp, the NWBC is officially live. 2 of the 5 matches have been planned. Good luck to all involved!

I know i keep saying this but i really fucking need admin teams, right now i'm admining the only two planned events, and one of them i'm doing solo... PM/Steam/Post here, NWL refs etc please step up, otherwise this tournament is going to be fucking stressful
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Velociraptor on March 30, 2015, 07:30:33 am
If we are in a team can we also be an admin for other matches ? Because I can help if you want with probably some of my officiers  ;)
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on March 30, 2015, 07:35:11 am
If we are in a team can we also be an admin for other matches ? Because I can help if you want with probably some of my officiers  ;)
yes you can :)
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: 9e_d'Artillerie on March 30, 2015, 01:35:14 pm
Hi, i tried to add the 2 Leib-Hurasen's leader but i can't (steam error and i don't know why). So if the leader can add me on steam  [IVe] Adjudant-Chef Ulysse Grant (https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198022818741/) to plan our match !

Thank's  ;)
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Tenford on March 30, 2015, 04:01:27 pm
Hi, i tried to add the 2 Leib-Hurasen's leader but i can't (steam error and i don't know why). So if the leader can add me on steam  [IVe] Adjudant-Chef Ulysse Grant (https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198022818741/) to plan our match !

Thank's  ;)

I will tell him when he comes online
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on March 30, 2015, 04:21:24 pm
Ve vs Triangle Coalition will be streamed by Dukey

Twitch link http://www.twitch.tv/dukey043
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: 9e_d'Artillerie on March 31, 2015, 04:25:49 pm
The match IVe Corps vs 2. Leib-Husaren Regiment will be Thursday 2 at 8.30 p.m. GMT
We doesn't have any admin...


Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on March 31, 2015, 04:26:55 pm
The match IVe Corps vs 2. Leib-Husaren Regimentt will be Thursday 2 at 8.30 p.m. GMT +1
We doesn't have any admin...
To confirm, GMT +1 is the time it is now in Britain and Portugal, or were you talking about the time it is in France and Germany?
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: 9e_d'Artillerie on March 31, 2015, 04:40:45 pm
Yes x).
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: SwissGronkh on March 31, 2015, 05:02:44 pm
Looking forward to it ;)
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on March 31, 2015, 08:39:45 pm
www.twitch.tv/dukey043 NWBC match being streamed
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Mr_Etherton on March 31, 2015, 08:44:48 pm
The TvS Reunited Admin Team can cover the IVe - 2. Leib-Hussaren Regiment Event Thursday if you need it?
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on March 31, 2015, 09:30:22 pm
1st match is Triangle Coalition: 2 - 0 Ve Corps 0
Good match played well by both teams, a great start to the Championship!
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Dukey on March 31, 2015, 09:32:37 pm
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLe_0hMgNig[/youtube]
Stream from the match :)
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Tim on March 31, 2015, 09:33:13 pm
The 59th is looking for cavalry, and another line company to team with. :) We have arty and a line already.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on March 31, 2015, 09:34:52 pm
The 59th is looking for cavalry, and another line company to team with. :) We have arty and a line already.
Not yet your not, depends if the 16e can't field their coalition, which they are expected to currently.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Moi~ on March 31, 2015, 09:54:34 pm
Btw the 47th regiment is on the Triangle Coalition, they inscribed at last moment this sunday. Just letting you all know, seems like someone got a bad surprise this evening xP
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Velociraptor on March 31, 2015, 10:44:06 pm
 First I would like to thank, everyone for setting up this event. We are grateful to the admin team; Also we would like to congratulate the Triangle Coalition for their very good match. It was a tight game and you won the 2 rounds. However they were many rules that were just announced during the event itself, and some of them were in conflict with the ones written on the topic. We assumed that the ones wrote on the topic were the event rules and we were really dissapointed during the event because these rules were not respected. Here is some problems that we noticed :

1. The event was meant to start at 19.30 CET, but it started with more than 20 min. of delay. Even if we excuse some delay, after some much time people were starting to leave the server.
2. The 47th wasn't on the official roster of the Triangle Coalition but played the event. It's not so fair play because we were not prepared to fight against them.
3. In general rules it's written that the match is played in 3 rounds and that the winner is the best of three. At the beginning of the event, you announced that it will be a best at three, and at the end of the second round (2-0 for Triangle Coalition), you announced that it was a best of three. Anyway, we didn't even play 3 rounds, we just played 2.
4. The rule of FIC for the artillery guards was not written in the FSE thread, as well as the rules regarding fire in charge for the light (it was only clear for the skirmishers). Aswell we didn't really had the time to prepare in good conditions.

We don't think that these irregularities set a good example for the upcoming matches. Therefore I would like to suggest to our dear friends from the Triangle Coalition to play the match again, this time in respect with the rules that would be communicated before the event. It would be a great disappointment for us if we can't agree on this but we respect your choice.

We also would like to inform the admin team that we will only take part in our upcoming matches if the rules are respected. If not, then we would consider leaving this tournament.

However, I hope that we will find an agreement. Thank you again for the tournament and congratulations to the Triangle Coalition.

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Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: KOBZIK on March 31, 2015, 10:49:54 pm
M8, best of 3 (Bo3) is not first to 3. The team that wins 2 rounds wins the match.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Thorvic on March 31, 2015, 10:54:58 pm
If i can add something to this complaint, you slayed someone in our team for FiC. BUT this person was playing as light (in the 7eFlq), and as FiC is not forbidden on your FSE thread, to conclude you didn't have to slay this player for following the rules.

M8, best of 3 (Bo3) is not first to 3. The team that wins 2 rounds wins the match.

Ok it was written on the FSE thread. But check what Fish (the main organizer of the event) announced at the beginning of the event :

(https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/14/1427832327-desktop-capture-03-31-2015-22-03-56.jpg)
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: KOBZIK on March 31, 2015, 10:55:15 pm
And on fse about fic is, that the AG are fighting like skirms. Look at the skirms rules.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on March 31, 2015, 10:58:03 pm
Right.
The event was meant to start an hour later; i was not prepared at all for this, as i had been told it was planned for 20:00 GMT +1. but some people obviously can't comprehend Daylight Savings... Because of this the match had a delay in starting.

2. The 47th were not listed, but i was informed about them, they are a legitimate part of the Triangle coalition. the only reason you are complaining about this is to knit pick and try and win next time... It does not matter about who you fight in that regard.

3 The general rule says you play best of 3. Amittedly i did say first too 3, but that was a cock up on my end and i admit that. I don't see why your moaning about it though, did you seriously expect to clutch when you were two zero down

4 Again Fire in charge for light and Arty guard was an issue on my end, it was ill defined, i will address it in the next few days, but after i had slayed a player for it and stated in pink chat it was not allowed, i would've thought you'd have realized it...
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: KOBZIK on March 31, 2015, 10:58:25 pm
If i can add something to this complaint, you slayed someone in our team for FiC. BUT this person was playing as light (in the 7eFlq), and as FiC is not forbidden on your FSE thread, to conclude you didn't have to slay this player for following the rules.

M8, best of 3 (Bo3) is not first to 3. The team that wins 2 rounds wins the match.

Ok it was written on the FSE thread. But check what Fish (the main organizer of the event) announced at the beginning of the event :

(https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/14/1427832327-desktop
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Then my apologies. I think fish had made a mistake.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Thorvic on March 31, 2015, 11:27:29 pm
4 Again Fire in charge for light and Arty guard was an issue on my end, it was ill defined, i will address it in the next few days, but after i had slayed a player for it and stated in pink chat it was not allowed, i would've thought you'd have realized it...

As i mentioned, you slayed a guy in our side because he got slay by yourself. Next time if you don't want to see light infantry FiC, mention it clearly "FiC is forbidden for lights, but allowed for skirmishers"

-> On your thread, you wrote that skirmishers are allowed to FIC, and you did not wrote any rules about FIC for the light infantries. If there is no restrictions on something, we should consider that it is not forbidden. Just indicate it clearly before taking any punishment on a live match.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: DarkLight on March 31, 2015, 11:44:06 pm
banter ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Jack on April 01, 2015, 12:04:00 am
In my opinion, and I'm not speaking for my corps, I would like to see the admins simply appologize to both teams. That would show that you accept the mistakes and that you will try to correct it for the next time. I don't want to be rude but I haven't seen any message like this yet. That's the only thing that I ask, personally, and that would be nice from you :)
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on April 01, 2015, 12:12:47 am
Right.
The event was meant to start an hour later; i was not prepared at all for this, as i had been told it was planned for 20:00 GMT +1. but some people obviously can't comprehend Daylight Savings... Because of this the match had a delay in starting.

2. The 47th were not listed, but i was informed about them, they are a legitimate part of the Triangle coalition. the only reason you are complaining about this is to knit pick and try and win next time... It does not matter about who you fight in that regard.

3 The general rule says you play best of 3. Amittedly i did say first too 3, but that was a cock up on my end and i admit that. I don't see why your moaning about it though, did you seriously expect to clutch when you were two zero down

4 Again Fire in charge for light and Arty guard was an issue on my end, it was ill defined, i will address it in the next few days, but after i had slayed a player for it and stated in pink chat it was not allowed, i would've thought you'd have realized it...
I'm pretty sure i apologised in the quoted post
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Thorvic on April 01, 2015, 12:48:20 am
I forgot also, just in my opinion, in any case, if the match had to be played as a Best of Three, i don't understand why the head admin staff and the opposite team did leave the server by saying the match is over by the score, gg, bb, et cetera..

In "Best of Three", there is the word "Three", which relates to the amount of rounds that needs to be played. We did play two rounds only, i personnally consider that behaviour towards us ; from the Triangle Coalition, BUT from the administrator staff too ; as a very disrespectful way to leave the server. You must admit this fact, in any case, the footage of the match may show it explicitly.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Mr_Etherton on April 01, 2015, 01:03:23 am
I forgot also, just in my opinion, in any case, if the match had to be played as a Best of Three, i don't understand why the head admin staff and the opposite team did leave the server by saying the match is over by the score, gg, bb, et cetera..

In "Best of Three", there is the word "Three", which relates to the amount of rounds that needs to be played. We did play two rounds only, i personnally consider that behaviour towards us ; from the Triangle Coalition, BUT from the administrator staff too ; as a very disrespectful way to leave the server. You must admit this fact, in any case, the footage of the match may show it explicitly.

Id like to point out what the term 'best of 3' means. So there are a total of 3 rounds playable ie the term '3' the Triangle Coalition managed to win 2 of those rounds therefore making the 3rd and final round redundant as it would not affect the result of the match. They had already won 2 of a possible 3 matches giving them the win. This results in the last round not being played. Later on in the Championship if multiple teams finish on the same total points for examples 2 Coalitions finish on 9 points in 3rd and 4th position, those 2 Coalitions will play a tie breaker to decide who finish in that 3rd slot overall. This gives them a chance to see who is best once again on the day to decide the overall best groups. This may happen once, twice, three times or maybe not at all. So to conclude fairly, best of 3 does not require a 3rd round if a team is 2-0 up!
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Butan on April 01, 2015, 01:19:05 am
3 The general rule says you play best of 3. Amittedly i did say first too 3, but that was a cock up on my end and i admit that. I don't see why your moaning about it though, did you seriously expect to clutch when you were two zero down

It is indeed written "best of three" on the official thread but it was overlooked for three reasons:
- the same thread was edited and its rules changed the very day of the event, its validity put in question
- admin announced "first to three" on the event server itself, didnt correct, and sent it live: supersede the thread announcement (+reason above)
- most classical linebattles are 4 rounds+ minimum, non-english speakers have problems translating "best of three" (same than "first to three" to most french) so it was understood a 3-to-5 rounds was the logical scoring system used; everything went in that direction


The scoring system has effect on the meta of a linebattle, and what tactics are employed and when: aggressive, normal, defensive... The second round would probably have been played safer if it was understood the "best of three" system was used. A clutch scenario could have happened.
The fact that we didnt get to play the last rounds (which is a common fairplay gesture, if the winner is already decided; and can decide ties), even after acknowledging that it was indeed a best of three, added insult to injury.


4 Again Fire in charge for light and Arty guard was an issue on my end, it was ill defined, i will address it in the next few days, but after i had slayed a player for it and stated in pink chat it was not allowed, i would've thought you'd have realized it...

It is common in most linebattles that light can FiC. The fact that it was not the case, + the fact that it was not properly displayed, had effects on the course of the event: there was around half a dozen slays, all on one side, and there was only a handful of survivors in both rounds played. Mathematically the winner could have been different, simply with that light-FiC dispute. And there was also the artillery-FiC problem...





The event delay at the start, and the unnanounced presence of a totally new regiment, while we were punished for every soldiers above the limit, also worked in favor of a disagreeable experience.
In the end we waited as much as we played, around 20 minutes, very frustrating.
The exchange of canons/bullets/steel to the gut was nice, and the players were very polite: there is nothing to complain about on that subject.




If the event had been very one-sided I think there would be nothing to complain about, but it was not. As such, the issues raised work in favour of a re-match if both teams accept.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Jack on April 01, 2015, 01:20:53 am
Well, usually when we play best of a number of rounds, we play all the rounds, even if we have won by the middle of the event. I understand that you don't, but we found it surprising on the moment.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Mr_Etherton on April 01, 2015, 01:23:59 am
With Regards to the Lights FiC issue i would like to return to the rules:

Skirmishers May...Light Infantry May...
These Rules clearly state what each class CAN DO. Skirmishers MAY FIRE IN CHARGE. At no point under Light Infantry does it say they may fire in charge. Therefore they cannot do this!
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Jack on April 01, 2015, 01:27:19 am
Why is it written "May Not Fire in charge" in the line infantry rules then?
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Smollett on April 01, 2015, 01:29:27 am


Looking forwards to our coalition's first game on Sunday, Hispanic Coalition beware ;)
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Tenford on April 01, 2015, 01:34:15 am


Looking forwards to our coalition's first game on Sunday, Hispanic Coalition beware ;)

prepare your bodies, Our goal is win the championship
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Zahari on April 01, 2015, 01:34:53 am
With Regards to the Lights FiC issue i would like to return to the rules:

Skirmishers May...
    • Have a maximum of 5 man spacing
    • Fire in charge
    • Officer Aim
    • maintain Cohesion
Light Infantry May...
    • have a maximum of 2 man Spacing
    • not Officer Aim
    • maintain Cohesion

These Rules clearly state what each class CAN DO. Skirmishers MAY FIRE IN CHARGE. At no point under Light Infantry does it say they may fire in charge. Therefore they cannot do this!
1. It is not clear cause if it is only what class can do why there is may not
2. Im not in Ve just saying how it looks from outside
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on April 01, 2015, 01:38:46 am
This is going to fun. Take what i say here with a pinch of salt as i'm pissy and it's late...

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3 The general rule says you play best of 3. Amittedly i did say first too 3, but that was a cock up on my end and i admit that. I don't see why your moaning about it though, did you seriously expect to clutch when you were two zero down

It is indeed written "best of three" on the official thread but it was overlooked for three reasons:
- the same thread was edited and its rules changed the very day of the event, its validity put in question
- admin announced "first to three" on the event server itself, didnt correct, and sent it live: supersede the thread announcement (+reason above)
- most classical linebattles are 4 rounds+ minimum, non-english speakers have problems translating "best of three" (same than "first to three" to most french) so it was understood a 3-to-5 rounds was the logical scoring system used; everything went in that direction


The scoring system has effect on the meta of a linebattle, and what tactics are employed and when: aggressive, normal, defensive... The second round would probably have been played safer if it was understood the "best of three" system was used. A clutch scenario could have happened.
The fact that we didnt get to play the last rounds (which is a common fairplay gesture, if the winner is already decided; and can decide ties), even after acknowledging that it was indeed a best of three, added insult to injury.


4 Again Fire in charge for light and Arty guard was an issue on my end, it was ill defined, i will address it in the next few days, but after i had slayed a player for it and stated in pink chat it was not allowed, i would've thought you'd have realized it...

It is common in most linebattles that light can FiC. The fact that it was not the case, + the fact that it was not properly displayed, had effects on the course of the event: there was around half a dozen slays, all on one side, and there was only a handful of survivors in both rounds played. Mathematically the winner could have been different, simply with that light-FiC dispute. And there was also the artillery-FiC problem...




The event delay at the start, and the unnanounced presence of a totally new regiment, while we were punished for every soldiers above the limit, also worked in favor of a disagreeable experience.
In the end we waited as much as we played, around 20 minutes, very frustrating.
The exchange of canons/bullets/steel to the gut was nice, and the players were very polite: there is nothing to complain about on that subject.




If the event had been very one-sided I think there would be nothing to complain about, but it was not. As such, the issues raised work in favour of a re-match if both teams accept.
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Are you fucking special? Of course the thread was edited on the fucking day! It was edited to add to clarification to the rules that people like you complained about!

This isn't a classical linebattle, it's a tournament. If people had issues with translation the should've approached me, but they didn't, so how was i to know there was an issue

Yes i said it was first to 3, that was an issue. I was a little stressed and have been feeling groggy, so i was a bit hazy tonight, you can hear it on the video.

So, as you refer to it the Ve were going into that battle, looking to throw the first 2 rounds and clutch the next 3?
While i admit that it does have some effect, it should not effect the mentality of which you go into the battle. As for not understanding the best of 3 system, that's your issue not mine...

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The fact that we didnt get to play the last rounds (which is a common fairplay gesture, if the winner is already decided; and can decide ties), even after acknowledging that it was indeed a best of three, added insult to injury.
Now this, this is my favourite quote from your extract... Insult to injury? You act as if i've slept with your wife... In rock paper scissors, when you're deciding who has to do cleaning detail, do you play the last round just for fair play? No.
This is exactly the same concept, we're here to decide the winner, once a match is done, it's done...

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The event delay at the start, and the unnanounced presence of a totally new regiment, while we were punished for every soldiers above the limit, also worked in favor of a disagreeable experience.
In the end we waited as much as we played, around 20 minutes, very frustrating.
The exchange of canons/bullets/steel to the gut was nice, and the players were very polite: there is nothing to complain about on that subject.
Alright, this is where i get pissed of properly...
The event delay was an issue, but, and this is a big fucking but, the event was planned for 8:30pm GMT+1. There's a little thing called daylight savings that people do not seem to comprehend, because of DST the UK is now in GMT+1, France in GMT+2 etc etc. You actually started the match early, it started 40 minutes earlier than it should have. That is where the issue lies, my internet was unfortunatly overloaded prior to the start due to familly using it and the like, i had to let it settle before begining the match, but there would have been no delay if it started when it should have...

Punished for every man above the limit? I will re-iterate what i said previously, are you fucking special? NOT ONCE were you punished for that because you didn't even bring 80 men...

Quote
If the event had been very one-sided I think there would be nothing to complain about, but it was not. As such, the issues raised work in favour of a re-match if both teams accept.

Re iterate that statement so it makes sense, then i shall answer


Spoiler
With Regards to the Lights FiC issue i would like to return to the rules:

Skirmishers May...
    • Have a maximum of 5 man spacing
    • Fire in charge
    • Officer Aim
    • maintain Cohesion
Light Infantry May...
    • have a maximum of 2 man Spacing
    • not Officer Aim
    • maintain Cohesion

These Rules clearly state what each class CAN DO. Skirmishers MAY FIRE IN CHARGE. At no point under Light Infantry does it say they may fire in charge. Therefore they cannot do this!
Im not in Ve but..
1. It is not clear cause if it is only what clas can do why there is may not
2. Im not in Ve just saying how it looks from outside

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Zahari, i understand that's slightly confusing
You guys are also missing a big point. It was done once by the Ve General and i slayed, if that were it i'd be fine, fair enough i made a boo boo.
Nope, it was repeated at least once after that

Either way, i'll be overhauling the thread tomorrow  so the rules are concise,

Edit: Put quotes into spoilers
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Zahari on April 01, 2015, 01:44:39 am
I understand now. Thx Fish. First season or first few matches are always "special" . Next season or matches will be better. :)
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on April 01, 2015, 01:45:36 am
I understand now. Thx Fish. First season or first few matches are always "special" . Next season or matches will be better. :)
They say every Tournament has at least one drama, i'm glad to be getting mine out of the way at the start

Gotta say, i'm really hyped for the IVe +2Lhr Match!
Dukey will be streaming it! So look out
Edit: I'll kindly ask that any bitching/whining about the rules or issues of tonight kindly be directed to me on steam or teamspeak, and if you truly feel you need to tell the world what a horrible person i am; the NWBC discussion thread
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Moussolini on April 01, 2015, 02:30:33 am
Well I can see why people might get confused with these things like for instance where it's stated that if one team appears and the other doesn't the team that appeared gets 3-0 win, even though it's theoretically not possible since it's BO3 and 2 wins is what decides the winner. Unless we were to play all games even after the winner is decided by 2 wins to go on and do the third round, in which case 3-0 win by default in a case where one team doesn't show up makes sense. I'm not sure if points are actually going to matter in this tournament to begin with, but I assume it's not since the last game was not played, and so only victories matters (victories of the whole match on not a round ofc)

Anyway, the match had few problems, and there is little to complain about, even if a few mistakes were made by the admins, they were quite clear on the rules when it was stated properly and right. And there is no good reason for complaining that 47th was on the team which you didn't expect. Never underestimate your enemy anyway, whether they are "supposedly" good or bad.

Also is it possible to play for two different regiments in this tournament or only one? Haven't seen it being clearly stated in the rules so just wondering.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Layton on April 01, 2015, 10:13:00 am
No more sign ups allowed I take it..... ?
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Tenford on April 01, 2015, 12:29:46 pm
No more sign ups allowed I take it..... ?

Do you want to form a team or join a team? cause the first one now is not allowed but you can speak with a team and join them if they need a cav, light, rifles or something
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: 9e_d'Artillerie on April 02, 2015, 07:22:37 am
I understand you have server. Right ? So Can we have it ? And i have a last question, who is the admin for our match ?
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Velociraptor on April 02, 2015, 07:26:31 am
I understand you have server. Right ? So Can we have it ? And i have a last question, who is the admin for our match ?
Je te conseil, s'il sont d'accord d'utiliser ton serveur car le leur lag vraiment ;) juste un petit conseil comme sa
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Moi~ on April 02, 2015, 11:50:14 am
Btw #2 the triangle coalition is leaded by Chicken (https://steamcommunity.com//id/AmazingChicken/). Can the leader of a various regiment coalitions use a special name for the event? For example Coalition_Name_IncrediblyHighRankHere_Nickname
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Tenford on April 02, 2015, 12:20:41 pm
I understand you have server. Right ? So Can we have it ? And i have a last question, who is the admin for our match ?

Yes, we have servers. And the admin team 1 will be your admin team
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on April 02, 2015, 12:32:43 pm
I understand you have server. Right ? So Can we have it ? And i have a last question, who is the admin for our match ?
My admin team shall admin your match
we'll give you the server details tonight just before the battle.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Moi~ on April 02, 2015, 12:35:33 pm
Also guys! Colonel Serrallonga from Miquelets regiment will be streaming tonight's event aswell here

Edit: Nevermind :P
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on April 02, 2015, 12:38:06 pm
I understand you have server. Right ? So Can we have it ? And i have a last question, who is the admin for our match ?
Je te conseil, s'il sont d'accord d'utiliser ton serveur car le leur lag vraiment ;) juste un petit conseil comme sa
English please?

Btw #2 the triangle coalition is leaded by Chicken (https://steamcommunity.com//id/AmazingChicken/). Can the leader of a various regiment coalitions use a special name for the event? For example Coalition_Name_IncrediblyHighRankHere_Nickname
If you want to use coalition tags feel free, i don't mind :)

Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Velociraptor on April 02, 2015, 01:53:55 pm
I understand you have server. Right ? So Can we have it ? And i have a last question, who is the admin for our match ?
Je te conseil, s'il sont d'accord d'utiliser ton serveur car le leur lag vraiment ;) juste un petit conseil comme sa
English please?
Translation : I will counsel, if they agree to use your server because the server of the event really lag ;) Just a little advice.

I'm sorry for the french but I was thinking that was not so important and I counsel the server of the IVe corps because it's without lag ;)
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on April 02, 2015, 02:37:40 pm
I understand you have server. Right ? So Can we have it ? And i have a last question, who is the admin for our match ?
Je te conseil, s'il sont d'accord d'utiliser ton serveur car le leur lag vraiment ;) juste un petit conseil comme sa
English please?
Translation : I will counsel, if they agree to use your server because the server of the event really lag ;) Just a little advice.

I'm sorry for the french but I was thinking that was not so important and I counsel the server of the IVe corps because it's without lag ;)
The event didn't really lag, most pings were around 60
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Velociraptor on April 02, 2015, 03:29:05 pm
Spoiler
I understand you have server. Right ? So Can we have it ? And i have a last question, who is the admin for our match ?
Je te conseil, s'il sont d'accord d'utiliser ton serveur car le leur lag vraiment ;) juste un petit conseil comme sa
English please?
Translation : I will counsel, if they agree to use your server because the server of the event really lag ;) Just a little advice.

I'm sorry for the french but I was thinking that was not so important and I counsel the server of the IVe corps because it's without lag ;)
The event didn't really lag, most pings were around 60
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My mens said there were a lot of lag on the melee but probably it was juste a miss luck ;)
Don't worry
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Jack on April 02, 2015, 05:09:38 pm
I had no lags as far as I am concerned :P
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Mr_Etherton on April 02, 2015, 06:33:43 pm
Announcements:

Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on April 02, 2015, 07:25:55 pm
More Announcements
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Mr_Etherton on April 02, 2015, 08:43:27 pm
STREAM STARTING FOR MATCH 2!!!: http://www.twitch.tv/dukey043/ (http://www.twitch.tv/dukey043/)

Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: SwissGronkh on April 02, 2015, 09:11:10 pm
GG IVe. I liked it ;)

J'aime parle français avec vous  ;)
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Dukey on April 02, 2015, 09:12:39 pm
Had to upload in 3 parts because the stream kept freezing -.-

Part 1
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmquoqqUwuE[/youtube]
Part 2
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2-QveBGqTU[/youtube]
Part 3
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRBXJTDNOvo[/youtube]
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Zahari on April 03, 2015, 12:05:48 am
What was the score ?
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: SwissGronkh on April 03, 2015, 12:21:04 am

What was the score ?
2-0 for 2Lhr
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Moi~ on April 03, 2015, 12:39:44 am
Here is a short video of Ve vs Triangle Coalition, recorded by the british artillery captain :D
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS-mrsUUiHs
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Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on April 03, 2015, 01:18:53 am

What was the score ?
2-0 for 2Lhr

IVe vs 2lhr was a great match! the score doesn't show it, but it was really close. IVe were 15-20 men down, and yet in the second round almost pulled it back, i really hope you two tie now, so you fight again!
The battle set the standard for NWBC matches, i'm curious to see if anyone can beat it.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: SwissGronkh on April 03, 2015, 01:22:46 am

The battle set the standard for NWBC matches, i'm curious to see if anyone can beat it.
No :P
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on April 03, 2015, 01:24:23 am

The battle set the standard for NWBC matches, i'm curious to see if anyone can beat it.
No :P
Wait and see swissy, we never know
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Tenford on April 03, 2015, 01:41:26 am
IVe vs 2lhr in Spanish

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI_8fMhrAOc&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Nade on April 03, 2015, 02:13:18 pm
Thank you for this great fight, and GG to 2Lhr.

We are sorry for our lack of  attendance, we'll try to bring enough men for our next games.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Tenford on April 03, 2015, 02:55:53 pm
Some shit for you with love <3 xD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi9Q-9fhtJw
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Mr_Etherton on April 03, 2015, 09:55:17 pm
I am pleased to announce the Coalition containing the 16e, Suisse and 63e has now been formed. The name and captain of the coalition will follow over the next day or so!
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Tuna[Sniper] on April 04, 2015, 01:17:22 am
I am pleased to announce the Coalition containing the 16e, Suisse and 63e has now been formed. The name and captain of the coalition will follow over the next day or so!
One of the names that could be used is Napoleonic Wars Army.  ;D
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Mr_Etherton on April 04, 2015, 02:10:15 am
I am pleased to announce the Coalition containing the 16e, Suisse and 63e has now been formed. The name and captain of the coalition will follow over the next day or so!
One of the names that could be used is Napoleonic Wars Army.  ;D

god damn you tuna xD
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Mr_Etherton on April 04, 2015, 11:39:26 pm
CONFIRMED: The Coalition involving the 16e, Suisse Brigade and 63e has been officially named as 'The Franco-Suisse Coalition'
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on April 05, 2015, 01:36:41 am
CONFIRMED: The Coalition involving the 16e, Suisse Brigade and 63e has been officially named as 'The Franco-Suisse Coalition'
Ew, double post
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Tuna[Sniper] on April 06, 2015, 12:14:44 pm
CONFIRMED: The Coalition involving the 16e, Suisse Brigade and 63e has been officially named as 'The Franco-Suisse Coalition'
Ew, double post
Ban him!  ;D
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Martastik on April 07, 2015, 12:57:02 pm
Excited for the first match of the KKY-Nr77!
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: leonidas-LI on April 07, 2015, 07:43:14 pm
Excited for the first match of the KKY-Nr77!
Indeed
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on April 07, 2015, 08:36:02 pm
K-KY+Nr77 2:0 2nd

GG to both teams, well played game by all sides
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: KOBZIK on April 07, 2015, 09:31:52 pm
any videos?
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on April 07, 2015, 10:08:25 pm
I think Wibpaint recorded it from his point of view, no casted video yet as Dukey was sleeping
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Louisss on April 07, 2015, 10:14:37 pm
Gud gam 2day guis  ;)
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Aaron702 on April 07, 2015, 10:15:39 pm
-Spoken to Fish, issue sorted-
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: DarkLight on April 07, 2015, 10:42:08 pm
K-KY+Nr77 2:0 2nd

GG to both teams, well played game by all sides

I wasn't aware a well played game consists of the K-KY+Nr77 breaking class limits and then building a certain offensive symbol out of planks. I was assured that you would speak to them, what exactly has been done?

Are you really complaining because they builded up a svastica with planks? That just invalidates from my point of view any serius arguments you would come to bring up, lol
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Aaron702 on April 07, 2015, 10:57:11 pm
-Spoken to Fish, issue sorted-
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on April 07, 2015, 11:02:28 pm

The admin's reluctance to do anything? Are you fucking retarded?
I spoke to about 5 of the 2nd's officers, telling them the exact same thing, i will request that they are disciplined. Your Colonel seemed happy with that, your Major seemed happy with that, what makes you so different? What more can i do? Go into their teamspeak and shout at them? They won't care, i'm just some kid on the internet. I refrained from responding to your first comment because i didn't want another argument, but yet again this community continues to amaze me with how fucking retarded it can be...

As for the class limits, i checked and i'm pretty sure they weren't over, but lets be honest; even if they were do you really think it would've tipped the balance in your favor to the point of you winning?
No it wouldn't, i will have a look and see if the limits were over, if they were i shall ensure it won't happen again.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Mr_Etherton on April 07, 2015, 11:55:22 pm
For the 2 played official rounds of NWBC match 3 containing the 77y/K-KA vs 2nd i can confirm from my point of view as an admin i checked the class limits both rounds and in neither of those cases were the limits over, the cav and rifles were both maxed making it fair
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Aaron702 on April 08, 2015, 12:25:05 am
-Spoken to Fish, issue sorted-
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: PrideofNi on April 08, 2015, 12:42:18 am
We had people sitting in spec so as to not go over the limit, which included me. Neither I nor the CO of the arty saw what you are claiming, he said they put a cross down at the end of a round because there was nothing they could shoot at. If you are really crying about that..sigh
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Aaron702 on April 08, 2015, 12:54:53 am
-Spoken to Fish, issue sorted-
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on April 08, 2015, 01:15:26 am

Not crying? Still argues point...

I'll end this here, if the issue wants to be taken further Notmoving or Connor can speak to me on steam or in the NWBC discussion thread
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Aaron702 on April 08, 2015, 01:22:54 am
-Spoken to Fish, issue sorted-
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on April 08, 2015, 01:32:15 am

Add me on steam.
[1stRHA] Fish [48MI]
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Peter Broetz on April 08, 2015, 01:35:16 am
We had people sitting in spec so as to not go over the limit, which included me. Neither I nor the CO of the arty saw what you are claiming, he said they put a cross down at the end of a round because there was nothing they could shoot at. If you are really crying about that..sigh

As I already said, I am not 'crying' about anything. Just that one of my fellow officers, who is German, is quite sensitive about that kind of thing. I couldn't care less myself. Regarding class limits, I am 100% certain they had 3 guard and 2 sappers. Austrian sappers have distinct bright blue uniforms and guess what? Are also the only class that spawns with a spade. So if 2 sets of earthworks were being dug at the same time, there has to be 2 sappers.

Here is a screenshot of 3 dead footguard by the arty position. The presence of British cavalry and a lack of other infantry units suggests that these bodies belong to the arty. It's obviously as believable as you want it to be but this is the only solid evidence I have.
Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/t0MEiuL.jpg)
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(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.sneakernews.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F01%2Felephant-print-tissue-box-cover-3.jpg&hash=6eb7d0577901b14d608aabd8802128a09cece895)
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: USE4life on April 08, 2015, 02:39:08 am
I think he has a point. Had those planks been arranged in a circle and the arty only brought 1 sapper and 1 guard, we'd have lost 2-0 to the 2nd.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Maurice on April 08, 2015, 03:46:14 am
Without the intention of stirring things up, I'd just like to add that the 2nd were absolutely destroyed as a result of the teamwork exhibited by the K-KA and the 77y.

I'd also remind the 2nd that their artillery did a much better job at killing ours than we did theirs, and that in fact, if there were an extra sapper, he got no kills and could only contribute a icon associated with a significant turning point in German history. One could even argue it's part of their heritage.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Aaron702 on April 08, 2015, 04:13:28 am
-Spoken to Fish, issue sorted-
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: 77y_Lt_Gaz on April 08, 2015, 08:15:00 am
when was this event with all the rules broken and shit played i think i may have missed it :>


Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Major Sharpe on April 08, 2015, 09:15:18 pm
2:1 to the BA, gg all that took part  :)

Spoiler
1stRHA carried shhh
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Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: SwissGronkh on April 08, 2015, 09:23:21 pm
Todays Battle:
British Army~~~~~France>Prussia
Score:
2~1


Admin Team was the Swiss and Adelon (Without-)COOPERation.
Spoiler
Hope our Job wasn't too shit, as we admined our fist NWBC Match
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Personally i have to say, that you made it to close for me ;)
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Tuna[Sniper] on April 08, 2015, 11:15:06 pm
Good game, thanks to refs!  :)
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: ztree on April 10, 2015, 04:30:28 pm
chill out scrubs
Spoiler
(https://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2x74xXeK11qiscl5o3_500.jpg)
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4banners vs spanish coalition on sunday...

4banners cav is our strong point (4e)... line is meh (78+spart), arty is tk troll (15) ....
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on April 12, 2015, 08:57:43 pm
http://challonge.com/NWBC
Brackets updated

2:0 to Four banners tonight, not going to comment on the match, any arguments about it are to be put on the discussion thread or to me on steam
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Mr_Etherton on April 13, 2015, 07:26:29 pm
NWBC Round 2 Match: 2nd vs Franco-Suisse Coalition to be played on Wednesday 15th April 7pm gmt
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Moi~ on April 15, 2015, 09:04:15 pm
NWBC Round 2 Match: Triangle Coalition vs 2. Leib-Husaren Regiment to be played on Sunday 26th April 7:30pm gmt

Edit: Nevermind
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Lavergne on April 15, 2015, 10:13:57 pm
I exploded during the latest NWBC. 1245/10 would do again.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Mr_Etherton on April 15, 2015, 11:26:00 pm
Round 2 Fixtures/Results:

IVe Coalition vs Hispanic Coalition TBC
2nd vs Franco-Suisse Coalition 1:2
Four Banners vs Ve 2:0
Triangle Coalition vs 2.Leib Husaren Regiment 1:2
British Army vs KKy + Nr77 TBC


Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Mr_Etherton on April 16, 2015, 05:45:36 pm
NWBC Round 2 Match: Triangle Coalition vs 2. Leib-Husaren Regiment to be played on Sunday 26th April 7:30pm gmt

Im afraid nwbc matches are only allowed to be played within the week given. The latest you can play this match is this comming Sunday unless you speak to either me or Fish with a request for more time
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Moi~ on April 16, 2015, 06:49:48 pm
Triangle Coalition vs. 2Lhr Saturday 18th at 19:30 BST
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on April 18, 2015, 03:46:51 pm
Lots of events tonight, 2 being played in the space of an hour!
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Czolo on April 18, 2015, 07:47:35 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/FF586pI.png)
New Triangle Coalition logo :)
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Cazasar on April 18, 2015, 08:38:29 pm
Coalition of memes
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Mr_Etherton on April 18, 2015, 09:47:34 pm
2. Leib-Hussaren Regiment 2:1 Triangle Coalition
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: WolvenSpirit on April 18, 2015, 09:48:50 pm
Well played everyone! I really enjoyed it!
Sorry for the complaining to the Admins, and not just because we won! (well.. that one round)
Please share a link if you upload a video of it :3

hope to see you all again soon! can't wait to blast my balls at you! <3
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Pilophas on April 18, 2015, 10:14:31 pm
2Lhr vs Triangle Coalition
2-1

First of all, let me thank the Triangle Coalition for this exciting and intense Battle.

Nevertheless there has been quite some displeasure amongst our men for the reason that in the last two rounds an All Charge has been ordered by Admin Etherton.
As far as I can see, this displeasure got shared by our enemys too, so besides the fact that we won the match, there really can be said that my post right now has nothing to do with crying or something like that.
It is motivated by my wish to have the most competitive and fair gaming experience in a cup like this and it is truely not meant to create any dispute.

There are many ways to win a match - one of it is killing the enemys artillery in order to gain map control and to have an advantage in long distance fights. If an All Charge is ordered this advantage gets lost. NW has units that are strong in melee, such as Cav and Inf, and it has others which are good at firing such as Arty and Skirms. If you order an All Charge you always favour the side with less skirms and less arty but more inf and more cav than the enemy.

There are two possible results of allowing the all charge-order:
First, we, and I'm sure every other army/regiment will do that aswell, will focus on destroying the enemys cav and inf and then wait until the All Charge gets ordered, or, the second possible result: We ignore the rule and have an disadvantage against those who do not ignore it.

Having a good gaming experience is only possible when you don't limit tactics to one possible solution. By creating rules that make it tactically silly to try any other possible tactic you just destroy the whole tactical aspect of the game.

Furthermore, when you order an All Charge, every team is going to try to unify its troops before charging - in our match that has been fordbidden. We and Our enemy in the third round for example did not respect that rule but didn't got punished. Maybe because it is hard to find an appropriate punishment for that sort of rule breaking. And thats why the rule itself is senseless. It is senseless from the beginning on, but the fact that nobody will respect it anyway if you don't punish a team in an inappropriate way makes it even more senseless.

In total I and the 2Lhr are really enjoying the NWBC so far. But it could be even better if you decide to abolish this senseless all charge ;)
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: 9e_d'Artillerie on April 18, 2015, 10:19:07 pm
The match IVe Corps vs Hispanic Coalition will be Friday 24 at 8.00 p.m. GMT
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Josh Faraday on April 18, 2015, 10:28:26 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/FF586pI.png)
New Triangle Coalition logo :)
Spy looks so fancy  :-* ;)
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on April 18, 2015, 10:34:11 pm
2Lhr vs Triangle Coalition
2-1

First of all, let me thank the Triangle Coalition for this exciting and intense Battle.

Nevertheless there has been quite some displeasure amongst our men for the reason that in the last two rounds an All Charge has been ordered by Admin Etherton.
As far as I can see, this displeasure got shared by our enemys too, so besides the fact that we won the match, there really can be said that my post right now has nothing to do with crying or something like that.
It is motivated by my wish to have the most competitive and fair gaming experience in a cup like this and it is truely not meant to create any dispute.

There are many ways to win a match - one of it is killing the enemys artillery in order to gain map control and to have an advantage in long distance fights. If an All Charge is ordered this advantage gets lost. NW has units that are strong in melee, such as Cav and Inf, and it has others which are good at firing such as Arty and Skirms. If you order an All Charge you always favour the side with less skirms and less arty but more inf and more cav than the enemy.

There are two possible results of allowing the all charge-order:
First, we, and I'm sure every other army/regiment will do that aswell, will focus on destroying the enemys cav and inf and then wait until the All Charge gets ordered, or, the second possible result: We ignore the rule and have an disadvantage against those who do not ignore it.

Having a good gaming experience is only possible when you don't limit tactics to one possible solution. By creating rules that make it tactically silly to try any other possible tactic you just destroy the whole tactical aspect of the game.

Furthermore, when you order an All Charge, every team is going to try to unify its troops before charging - in our match that has been fordbidden. We and Our enemy in the third round for example did not respect that rule but didn't got punished. Maybe because it is hard to find an appropriate punishment for that sort of rule breaking. And thats why the rule itself is senseless. It is senseless from the beginning on, but the fact that nobody will respect it anyway if you don't punish a team in an inappropriate way makes it even more senseless.

In total I and the 2Lhr are really enjoying the NWBC so far. But it could be even better if you decide to abolish this senseless all charge ;)

Thank you for raising your concerns in such a way, either today or tommorw i'm going to publish a full set of rules for all charges, what the conditions must be for them to be called, and also for generals.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Czolo on April 18, 2015, 10:55:39 pm
Arty can officer aim?
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Cooper on April 18, 2015, 11:00:00 pm
Arty can officer aim?

Yeah that needs to get a rule too. Either way, it has to be clear.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on April 18, 2015, 11:13:47 pm
Arty can officer aim?
Yes artillery may officer aim, it's too uncontrollable to not officer aim every now and again
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: WolvenSpirit on April 18, 2015, 11:25:36 pm
Arty can officer aim?

It's almost impossible to "officer aim" its wether yes or no you hit a line, and sometimes you're lucky hitting a CO or NCO, but it can't be prevented really, i'd would make arty unplayable!
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Lilja Mariasdóttir on April 18, 2015, 11:48:56 pm
Arty can officer aim?
It's almost impossible to "officer aim" its wether yes or no you hit a line, and sometimes you're lucky hitting a CO or NCO, but it can't be prevented really, i'd would make arty unplayable!
Normally scouting officers are meant. Line is safe from arty and an officer is standing on the hill scouting, and now the arty can offiaim ;)
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: SwissGronkh on April 19, 2015, 12:27:33 am
Just because i want to post something:

It was a really good battle between TFB and Ve.
I really liked to admin it,  and luckily we have found a good map shortly (not like an other match :P).





Too the topic of the all charge:
I admin the 2Lhr Events since a year or more. I did write all charge only, if it was artillery vs artillery, because that's lame for specators.
An all charge take the abillity of units who are better in shooting.
And i think this is a tactical competition, not a Melee event.
I do not complain that we lost the round just of that, but it taked our Artillery advantage away.

In love Swissy
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: WolvenSpirit on April 19, 2015, 09:44:03 am
For the officer aiming: as long as I get to blast my balls without any rules, I'm fine with it ;P

And for the all charge:
I think an all charge should indeed be ordered when it's arty vs arty (it's really boring to watch, I know that).
But not when it's still 30 vs 30 with one side having arty, skirms and light, and the other one having arty, lines and cav. It's just unfair.
An all charge should be ordered when a battle comes at a standstill, aka, a 10 minute shootout between lights or arty. but not just after like 11 minutes.

P.S.
Anyone got a link yet? :D
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Cazasar on April 19, 2015, 09:58:27 am
For the officer aiming: as long as I get to blast my balls without any rules, I'm fine with it ;P

And for the all charge:
I think an all charge should indeed be ordered when it's arty vs arty (it's really boring to watch, I know that).
But not when it's still 30 vs 30 with one side having arty, skirms and light, and the other one having arty, lines and cav. It's just unfair.
An all charge should be ordered when a battle comes at a standstill, aka, a 10 minute shootout between lights or arty. but not just after like 11 minutes.

P.S.
Anyone got a link yet? :D
Pilophas surely recorded it :) And for the rules, lets just wait what Fish is going to publish today.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Josh Faraday on April 19, 2015, 10:42:45 am
For the officer aiming: as long as I get to blast my balls without any rules, I'm fine with it ;P

And for the all charge:
I think an all charge should indeed be ordered when it's arty vs arty (it's really boring to watch, I know that).
But not when it's still 30 vs 30 with one side having arty, skirms and light, and the other one having arty, lines and cav. It's just unfair.
An all charge should be ordered when a battle comes at a standstill, aka, a 10 minute shootout between lights or arty. but not just after like 11 minutes.

P.S.
Anyone got a link yet? :D
Pilophas surely recorded it :) And for the rules, lets just wait what Fish is going to publish today.
+1
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: SwissGronkh on April 19, 2015, 10:48:56 am

For the officer aiming: as long as I get to blast my balls without any rules, I'm fine with it ;P

And for the all charge:
I think an all charge should indeed be ordered when it's arty vs arty (it's really boring to watch, I know that).
But not when it's still 30 vs 30 with one side having arty, skirms and light, and the other one having arty, lines and cav. It's just unfair.
An all charge should be ordered when a battle comes at a standstill, aka, a 10 minute shootout between lights or arty. but not just after like 11 minutes.

P.S.
Anyone got a link yet? :D
Pilophas surely recorded it :)
yes he did :D
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on April 19, 2015, 12:29:51 pm
All Charge rules
Quote
   
  • All Charges may only be called when the following criteria is met
                         - There is less than 15 people on each side
                         - The timer is past 45 minutes
                         - There is no cavalry alive on the battlefield
                         - The bulk of the remnant is line infantry, at least 7 infantrymen (not including artillery)
General rules added under cavalry
Quote
Generals may...
Scout for the Team
Take the General Class, and only the General Class
Must keep a good distance from enemy Units, not going right up and teasing them
Must not enagage unless with friendly cavalry, or dismounted with infantry

Also, i forgot to mention that due to the IVe the 2nd week has been extended to two weeks, i'm now considering making 2 week match days as standard, opinions?[/list]
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Czolo on April 19, 2015, 01:57:55 pm
Arty can officer aim?

It's almost impossible to "officer aim" its wether yes or no you hit a line, and sometimes you're lucky hitting a CO or NCO, but it can't be prevented really, i'd would make arty unplayable!

I just remind arty cannons in NW have 100% accuracy. I felt it twice per 3 rounds yesterday....
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Josh Faraday on April 19, 2015, 03:01:14 pm
Arty can officer aim?

It's almost impossible to "officer aim" its wether yes or no you hit a line, and sometimes you're lucky hitting a CO or NCO, but it can't be prevented really, i'd would make arty unplayable!

I just remind arty cannons in NW have 100% accuracy. I felt it twice per 3 rounds yesterday....
rekt xD
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Smollett on April 19, 2015, 04:46:49 pm
Also, i forgot to mention that due to the IVe the 2nd week has been extended to two weeks, i'm now considering making 2 week match days as standard, opinions?[/list]

I think perhaps it's better to contain it to 1 week and if too many matches, i'd say atleast 2 (4 coalitions), couldn't find a date then extend it one week. If just 1 match didn't go through I think perhaps it's their own fault for not being flexible enough. In other words, you decide when an extra week is needed. Otherwise the tournament will go from the planned 9 week timeline, to over 20 weeks :P
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Lilja Mariasdóttir on April 19, 2015, 06:27:01 pm
We arent added to the first post at the moment, but feel free to also ask us, if you need an adminteam.

Team 4:
SSS - Sterben-ist-schrecklich-Front
Spoiler
Headadmin: Kanade Tachibana (Wüstenkrieger)
Other Admins: Dario
Chrossy
Lucasa
Steam: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198019708563
[close]
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Lawford aka. Ninu on April 20, 2015, 07:42:16 am
Anyone asked for a link of the Match , so : https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLmTt0FqIjz9-Yk3ewAwJC7vL4u9qCcDcj&v=ovZTRczCe7M&index=1

It is recorded by the 2Lhr artillerie^^
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on April 27, 2015, 05:57:52 pm
Update: British army is of kill due to me taking a step back from NW and a few other reasons (no i didn't lead the BA)
The Hispanic coalition has resigned from the NWBC, due to being all-round bitches (details will be provided over steam upon request)
As such, all battles against them will result in a 2-0 Battle, this does apply retroactively to make it fair.
http://challonge.com/NWBC
Brackets for this week are play, ensure they are played by or on Sunday The 3rd of May
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Moi~ on April 29, 2015, 12:27:59 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HfttaaQTPk

Best melee combat in NWBC?
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Dusan on April 29, 2015, 12:42:18 am
Spoiler
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HfttaaQTPk

Best melee combat in NWBC?
[close]
dat tank
all die with one hit but he not ^^
[close]
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Cazasar on April 29, 2015, 06:00:16 am
He still did very good.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Josh Faraday on April 29, 2015, 02:45:49 pm
He still did very good.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: SwissGronkh on April 29, 2015, 03:25:23 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HfttaaQTPk

Best melee combat in NWBC?
I would say luckiest xD

You shall have heard Cooper as he softspoted him ^^
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: DarkLight on April 29, 2015, 03:42:36 pm
Spamming charade
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread
Post by: Michael Fish on April 30, 2015, 05:51:00 pm
Alright, with the reduced amount of teams, and the issues berieving many of the coalitions, all match weeks have been extended to weeks, meaning that the next match week will actually begin May 11th. From my rudimentary and lazy maths, should finish mid july
Games that need to be planned are:
IVe - Triangle Coalition
Franco Suisse - Four Banners
K-KKY +Nr77 - 2Lhr

Only three games, two regiments don't play this week, they will next week though; for those asking why i can't make those two coalitions play, blame Challonge, i can't find a way to force it do so, but there will be 4 games played next week.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: Moi~ on May 02, 2015, 12:52:20 am
The Triangle Coalition vs. IVe this Saturday at 19:45 BST
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: Michael Fish on May 02, 2015, 01:00:11 am
The Triangle Coalition vs. IVe this Saturday at 19:45 BST
Admin team?
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: Moi~ on May 02, 2015, 12:09:33 pm
The Triangle Coalition vs. IVe this Saturday at 19:45 BST
Admin team?
Tenford, i choose you!!
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: Tenford on May 02, 2015, 06:51:33 pm
The Triangle Coalition vs. IVe this Saturday at 19:45 BST
Admin team?
Tenford, i choose you!!

Ok ok, i will be there
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: MangoMeerkat on May 02, 2015, 09:12:37 pm
Sooo what just happened in the TC vs IVe match?
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: Tenford on May 02, 2015, 09:47:33 pm
IVe 2- 1 TC
referee: Tenford
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: Rhinosmyth on May 02, 2015, 09:55:01 pm
IVe 2- 1 TC
referee: Tenford


GG on the match was a good fight, Did anyone record it?
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: Michael Fish on May 02, 2015, 10:10:45 pm
IVe 2- 1 TC
referee: Tenford


Invalid, replay required.

TL:DR RGJ came in and decided to ban everyone from the server, 2 regiments left because of it and they played the last two rounds without 2 regiments from the TC; they didn't leave because they were upset, and since the TC run the first round i feel it's only fair.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: SilverFlamingo on May 02, 2015, 10:57:56 pm
lel
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: Moi~ on May 02, 2015, 11:51:23 pm
Another thing: I would demand to have the NWBC official servers up atleast half an hour before the event. We do get the server info 5-10 minutes before the match start and for people like me with bad connection, its impossible to join for the first round. In my case, I have to command my coalition, so not being able to find the server on time can have an incredibly bad impact to our team overall.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: Michael Fish on May 02, 2015, 11:57:08 pm
Another thing: I would demand to have the NWBC official servers up atleast half an hour before the event. We do get the server info 5-10 minutes before the match start and for people like me with bad connection, its impossible to join for the first round. In my case, I have to command my coalition, so not being able to find the server on time can have an incredibly bad impact to our team overall.
After the fiasco tonight, i've organised for there to be a permanent NWBC server up, so that won't be an issue
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: Rhinosmyth on May 03, 2015, 04:49:47 pm
Another thing: I would demand to have the NWBC official servers up atleast half an hour before the event. We do get the server info 5-10 minutes before the match start and for people like me with bad connection, its impossible to join for the first round. In my case, I have to command my coalition, so not being able to find the server on time can have an incredibly bad impact to our team overall.
After the fiasco tonight, i've organised for there to be a permanent NWBC server up, so that won't be an issue

I presume we will have until next week?
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: sharpe455 on May 03, 2015, 05:35:33 pm
Another thing: I would demand to have the NWBC official servers up atleast half an hour before the event. We do get the server info 5-10 minutes before the match start and for people like me with bad connection, its impossible to join for the first round. In my case, I have to command my coalition, so not being able to find the server on time can have an incredibly bad impact to our team overall.
After the fiasco tonight, i've organised for there to be a permanent NWBC server up, so that won't be an issue


Alright since i wasnt online yesterday at all (Mayweather fight). When i heard about what happened to your event i thought i would investigate a little further on behalf of the 1st RGJ.
1st i would say that we are all sorry for what happened to your event, and since we were notified that our servers would be getting used for the event, my officers took the wrong actions. My LtCol thought that a NA troll (called Ryan) had hijacked our server or some shit, and then banned his regiment.  My LtCol is very sorry and is a fucking idiot for doing what he did. Apart from that i can just say it was a complete misunderstanding on our part.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: Sluggo on May 03, 2015, 05:42:48 pm
I sincerely apologize for the fiasco that happened last night. I am indeed the fuckingest of idiots. We were heading to our server after a linebattle, and it appeared that both of our servers had been hijacked, which, given the recent breakup of the  British Army and the recent activity of a disgruntled former RGJ member, seemed likely. Advanced notice of the event would have been greatly appreciated, but my actions were unacceptable and I humbly apologize for the inconvenience caused.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: Michael Fish on May 03, 2015, 07:24:09 pm
Another thing: I would demand to have the NWBC official servers up atleast half an hour before the event. We do get the server info 5-10 minutes before the match start and for people like me with bad connection, its impossible to join for the first round. In my case, I have to command my coalition, so not being able to find the server on time can have an incredibly bad impact to our team overall.
After the fiasco tonight, i've organised for there to be a permanent NWBC server up, so that won't be an issue

I presume we will have until next week?
yeah, sorry about this but you have until the usual deadline
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: Lilja Mariasdóttir on May 06, 2015, 10:00:43 pm
Four Banners 2:1 Franco-Suisse Coalition
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: Mr_Etherton on May 06, 2015, 10:06:39 pm
Four Banners 2:1 Franco-Suisse Coalition

Great match so close in the end, 1st and 2nd rounds were won by pure tactical genius from both sides with an easy win but that final round was intense and extremely well fought. Best match of the Tourny imo and hard opponent.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: Michael Fish on May 09, 2015, 03:57:24 pm
http://challonge.com/NWBC Next week's battles are up.
Had to give the triangle coalition a 2:0 win, since the IVe couldn't do any time this week for the replay; unfortunate but it was that or set the tournament back another week, which wasn't happening.
Bastien agreed to give it to the TC, logs can be given if he gives permission here

This week certainly has some interesting matches!
Good luck, remember you have two weeks to play, not one.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: Cooper on May 15, 2015, 02:35:05 pm
2Lhr vs Ve Sunday 7:30 pm gmt.
Looking forward to it!  :)
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: SwissGronkh on May 15, 2015, 02:47:15 pm
Gl Ve  :)
Looking forward to it ;)
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: Moi~ on May 16, 2015, 01:44:09 am
Triangle Coalition vs. Franco-Suisse on wednesday 8pm gmt, we choose Tenford Fish as our referee :D
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: Mr_Etherton on May 17, 2015, 09:06:18 pm
GG, Ve vs 2lhr. 2lhr win 2-0!! Good match, very well fought!
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: SwissGronkh on May 17, 2015, 09:11:52 pm
Thanks for admin it ;)
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: Tenford on May 20, 2015, 10:17:04 pm
Franco-Suisse Coalition vs The Triangle Coalition (1-2 for TTC)
Admin: Tenford
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: WolvenSpirit on May 20, 2015, 10:17:12 pm
Triangle won! of course! nothing less expected! Bit rocky and flat map, but was fine I guess?
Suggestion of setting up the server + map before we begin.
Wait.. we did that.. I mean. super well adminned, really well fought, I think enemy should have catched more of my balls but whatever!

Please do not plan events during the week however, I think both sides were low on numbers?
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: Tenford on May 20, 2015, 10:19:58 pm
Triangle won! of course! nothing less expected! Bit rocky and flat map, but was fine I guess?
Suggestion of setting up the server + map before we begin.
Wait.. we did that.. I mean. super well adminned, really well fought, I think enemy should have catched more of my balls but whatever!

Please do not plan events during the week however, I think both sides were low on numbers?

almost 70 vs 70, that was a good number. About the map, i have been there at 19:45 trying to find a flat map, it tooks abount 15-20 mins to find it
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: Moi~ on May 20, 2015, 11:46:47 pm
Very good game, well played both sides :D
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: SwissGronkh on May 22, 2015, 09:09:33 pm
TFB 1-2 KKY Nr77

Well played game from both sides.
Liked to do last minute admin xD
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: Cazasar on May 22, 2015, 09:09:55 pm
We lost ? I should have been there....
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: Dusan on May 22, 2015, 09:10:01 pm
TFB 1-2 KKY Nr77

Well played game from both sides.
Liked to do last minute admin xD
I blame the 15th arty
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: Martastik on May 22, 2015, 11:04:18 pm
It was an exciting game guys, gg!
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: MaHuD on May 22, 2015, 11:11:15 pm
TFB 1-2 KKY Nr77

Well played game from both sides.
Liked to do last minute admin xD
Thank you for being the referee !
edit:
Is there a place where the overall scores are kept? I do not seem to find it in the OP. perhaps I am overlooking it?
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: Michael Fish on May 22, 2015, 11:17:00 pm
TFB 1-2 KKY Nr77

Well played game from both sides.
Liked to do last minute admin xD
Thank you for being the referee !
edit:
Is there a place where the overall scores are kept? I do not seem to find it in the OP. perhaps I am overlooking it?
http://challonge.com/NWBC
Keep forgetting to add it to the OP, will do later
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: MaHuD on May 23, 2015, 11:02:02 am
Thanks!
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: Moi~ on May 26, 2015, 11:25:08 pm
Third week in round 4... uh-oh
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: Michael Fish on May 27, 2015, 05:20:15 pm
Nope, me forgetting to update the brackets, doing it now. 2nd and IVe get a draw, because they didn't play their match...

http://challonge.com/NWBC
Brackets updated for Round 5
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: Martastik on May 27, 2015, 11:38:52 pm
Nr77+KKY vs Triangle Coalition will be taking place at 7pm GMT on Sunday 7th of June.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: Velociraptor on May 28, 2015, 07:32:57 am
I'm personally really sorry of that but the Ve corps is going out of this event because of an interne problem, and the leaders of the regiments of the Ve corps desided to go out of this event. Again I'm really sorry for that and I know that make a lot of problem... :'(
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: Michael Fish on May 31, 2015, 06:22:52 pm
Welp, due to turblulance and a serious lack of coalitions, i'm sad to announce that these two weeks will be the last official match week of the NWBC, tied places will be played for over the two weeks after that

Is that fair? Probably not.

Is it the best course of action?
Yes, we've already had 4 coalitions drop out, and the 2nd and IVe not playing their games, as such it's just not viable or really competitive.  There's also the fact of a lack of admins; i'll be honest and say i don't want to do this, and if there were more admins that had stepped up before hand i'd probably have one of them take over, but there isn't. So i'm not.

Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: Cooper on May 31, 2015, 06:29:03 pm
plz, I cry  :'(

But understandable. Hopefully this will get another try somewhere in the future.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: Michael Fish on May 31, 2015, 06:29:52 pm
A second season may happen in September, depending on interest, my schoolwork and if i want to touch NW again.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: SwissGronkh on May 31, 2015, 09:13:32 pm
Said to here that.
I really liked the concept of this.
I really liked to be part of it, as a regimental member and admin.
I hope there will be a second season.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: Martastik on May 31, 2015, 10:02:25 pm
A pity, we'll keep fighting till the last fight's done, but gg for all the teams either way.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: Miquelets Official on June 06, 2015, 03:55:57 pm
Sad to see this problems with coalitions made this finish earlier :(
There was lots of unnecesary problems that could been fixed easily, and there was many stupid complaints and rash decisions by some admins nevertheless we really enjoyed this tournament. Know the triangle coalition is up to help with the NWBC next time.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: Martastik on June 07, 2015, 08:34:29 pm
A pity this event is over, so soon. But nonetheless thank you for hosting and thanks to the opponents for the exciting fights!

KKY + Nr77
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: Mr_Etherton on June 07, 2015, 08:38:32 pm
Great match Triangle Coalition 0:2 k-ka and 77y

Congrats to the k-ka and 77y for winning the NWBC unbeaten!!!!
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: Louisss on June 07, 2015, 11:23:44 pm
season 2?
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: Smollett on June 10, 2015, 07:08:13 pm
A good season, 2nd place isn't so bad. Next season The Four Banners will be victorious! ^^ (If there is one in september)
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: MaHuD on July 02, 2015, 10:32:53 pm
Thanks for hosting! and thanks to the 77y for putting up with us :P
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: Michael Fish on July 02, 2015, 10:39:34 pm
Oh wow, i still get notifications when people post here.

As for Season 2, i'll sit down early august time and start to get reacquainted with NW and the community, if i feel like i have the time and can commit to this i will run it. For now though, can i get a post from any prospective coalitions for season 2, just stating their interested.
Title: Re: NWBC Official Thread [Round 3]
Post by: Michael Fish on August 01, 2015, 01:10:46 pm
welp, i said early august and early august it is. The NWBC is oficially going to be entering a season 2! All i need are servers and people to play on them ;)

How will the servers operate?
What i'm doing this time around, is requesting that participating regiments donate a server to the tournament, to be used one night  a week maximum, it is not a requirement, you can participate in the NWBC without giving one, but if we don't have the servers you won't play at alll
Only myself, and 3 others (undecided yet) will require the admin password.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars Battle Championship [NWBC]
Post by: Michael Fish on August 06, 2015, 05:55:37 pm
double post bump double shame
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars Battle Championship [NWBC]
Post by: SwissGronkh on August 06, 2015, 05:56:05 pm
looking forward to it ;)