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Title: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: kpetschulat on February 27, 2014, 04:46:56 am
What it is.

I'm bored with the current selection of units for the mod, and I know this was due to time-constraint, but for the future, I am making a huge list of troops that should be added for various factions. If I made a mistake in names, wording, troop types, etc. please let me know and I'll fix it.

Thanks.

French Third Republic
Infantry
Fusiliers (Standard Infantry)
Chasseur Alpins (Mountain Infantry)
Tirailleurs Sénégalais (Colonial Light Infantry)
Zouaves (Assault Infantry)
Bombers (Trench Raiders)
Support
Artillerie (Artillery)
HMG (Heavy Gun Support)
Dragons (Mounted Infantry)
Specialists
Sappeur et Mineurs (Engineers)
Croix-Rouge Internationale (Medical Support)
Fusilier Marins (Naval Infantry)
Légion Étrangère (French Foreign Legion)
Tireur (Snipers)
Sentinelle (Sentries)
Maréchal (Faction Commander)
     German Empire
Infantry
Landsers (Standard Infantry)
Sächsischen Infanterie (Saxon Infantry)
Württemberger Infanterie (Wurttemberg Infantry)
Alpenjägers (Mountain Infantry)
Sturmtruppen (Assault Infantry)
Support
Feld-kannone (Artillery)
Schweren Maschinengewehr (Heavy Gun Support)
Uhlans (Medium Cavalry Support)
Specialists
Pionieren (Engineers)
Sanitätsdienst (Medics)
Mariner (Naval Infantry)
Bayerisches Reservists (Bavarian Reserves)
Wachtposten (Armored Sentries)
Scharfschützen (Snipers)
General (Faction Commander)
     United Commonwealth
Infantry
British Infantry Section (Standard Infantry)
Scottish Infantry Section (Highland Infantry)
Canadian Infantry Section (Canadian Assault Troops)
Irish Fusiliers (Irish Infantry)
Gurkha Rifle Section (Indian Colonial Infantry)
Australian Infantry Section (Australian Infantry)
Support
Howitzers (Artillery)
HMG (Heavy Gun Support)
Hussars (Light Cavalry Support)
Specialists
Sapper Section (Engineers)
Ambulance Corps (Medics)
Royal Marines (Naval Infantry)
Snipers (Sharpshooters)
General (Faction Commander)
     Austria-Hungary
Infantry
Deutsches Infanterie (German Infantry)
Üngarisches Infanterie (Hungarian Infantry)
Bosniaks (Bosnian Volunteers)
Czechisches Infanterie (Czechoslovakian Infantry)
Landwehr (Conscripts)
Landesschuetzen/Kaiserjägers (Mountain Troops)
Support
Feld-kannone (Field Artillery)
Schweren Maschinengewehr (Heavy Gun Support)
Üngarisches Hussaren (Hungarian Light Cavalry)
Specialists
Pionieren (Engineers)
Sanitätsdienst (Medics)
Niederösterreichisches Mariner (Lower Austrian Marines)
Wachtposten (Armored Sentries)
Scharfschützen (Snipers)
General (Faction Commander)
Italy
Coming soon!
     Russian Empire
Coming soon!
     Ottoman Empire
Coming soon!
     United States
Coming soon!
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: Rigadoon on February 27, 2014, 06:38:03 am
There are a lot of issues before something like this can even be considered.

- Why are marines underneath Specialist rather than Infantry? The Fusilier Marins were more "regular" than Tirailleurs Sénégalais. Same thing with all the other faction marines.
- Why do Ghurkas replace British snipers? Ghurkas are not sniper units, scoped rifles were not part of their regular gear. I imagine they had even less access to scoped rifles than regular British infantry. This is inconsistent with how the other factions have normal snipers.
- Trench Raiders only fought at night and primarily used melee weapons, while they did sometimes carry grenades and pistols, they were only for emergencies. Such a unit is inappropriate for IE battles.
- Spahis Marocains composed a very very tiny fraction of France's cavalry. Why should they represent all of France's cavalry when most French cav were actual regular cavalry?
- Australian units were never designated as Stormtroopers. It doesn't matter what the Germans called them or if they were used in assault purposes.
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on February 27, 2014, 06:46:29 am
No chefs I see. An army fights on it stomach; therefore chefs should be #1 specialist.
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: Gokiller on February 27, 2014, 09:17:22 am
What is the point of having a german unit in the Austrian faction while you have an entire faction for Germany? Rather have standard Austrian Infantry.
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: kpetschulat on February 27, 2014, 02:09:08 pm
There are a lot of issues before something like this can even be considered.

- Why are marines underneath Specialist rather than Infantry? The Fusilier Marins were more "regular" than Tirailleurs Sénégalais. Same thing with all the other faction marines.
- Why do Ghurkas replace British snipers? Ghurkas are not sniper units, scoped rifles were not part of their regular gear. I imagine they had even less access to scoped rifles than regular British infantry. This is inconsistent with how the other factions have normal snipers.
- Trench Raiders only fought at night and primarily used melee weapons, while they did sometimes carry grenades and pistols, they were only for emergencies. Such a unit is inappropriate for IE battles.
- Spahis Marocains composed a very very tiny fraction of France's cavalry. Why should they represent all of France's cavalry when most French cav were actual regular cavalry?
- Australian units were never designated as Stormtroopers. It doesn't matter what the Germans called them or if they were used in assault purposes.

Well, at least you're correcting, I can make changes, of course, as I did say I'd like to be corrected.

What is the point of having a german unit in the Austrian faction while you have an entire faction for Germany? Rather have standard Austrian Infantry.

Because Standard "Austrian" Infantry were German.
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: AubeS on February 27, 2014, 02:57:45 pm
Dunno austrian and german are not the same thing. So no the Austrian inf regiment dot not consist of german but of austrian.
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: kpetschulat on February 27, 2014, 03:07:36 pm
They're still German... Idk why you guys are arguing this...
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: Joseph Graham on February 27, 2014, 03:13:56 pm
Why not turn this into a general suggested faction units thread? Broadens the ideas being put forward as well as encouraging conversation.
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: kpetschulat on February 27, 2014, 03:24:08 pm
That's what this is. I put down a base for the rosters, I want people to correct and add to it.
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: AubeS on February 27, 2014, 03:28:34 pm
No austrian and german are not the same thing. There whas probably some german engaged on the austrian army, but you can't say they are ALL german. He regiment hired on hen Austrian-Hungarian region is Austrian-Hugarian and not German.

PS : Then why you can't accept the fact austrian and german are not the same thing ?
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: kpetschulat on February 27, 2014, 03:31:29 pm
I didn't say they are. I said there were German troops. There were Germans, Lower Austrian, Hungarian, Croats, Serbs, Romanians, Tiroleans, Bosnians, Upper Austrians, etc. in German service. They were still all lead by German officers, albeit a few Hungarian officers in some corps and regiments.
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: Saga on February 27, 2014, 03:59:39 pm
I think it would be more appropriate to have the Canadians be the Commonwealth "sturmtruppen"

"THE CANADIANS WERE MARKED OUT AS STORM TROOPS; FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE WAR THEY WERE BROUGHT IN TO HEAD THE ASSAULT IN ONE GREAT BATTLE AFTER ANOTHER. WHENEVER THE GERMANS FOUND THE CANADIAN CORPS COMING INTO THE LINE THEY PREPARED FOR THE WORST."

--BRITISH PRIME MINISTER LLOYD GEORGE, AFTER THE CAPTURE OF VIMY RIDGE

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-111503132.html (http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-111503132.html)
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on February 27, 2014, 05:29:28 pm
I really love this list, good work Petschie.
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: MadManYo on February 27, 2014, 06:09:02 pm
For GB you have British inf Scottish and Irish inf but no Welsh or Guard inf. also if you have Canadian and Australian troops you might as well add all the other Commonwealth troops such as the Indians, African etc etc.
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: Frederik on February 27, 2014, 07:45:45 pm
No austrian and german are not the same thing. There whas probably some german engaged on the austrian army, but you can't say they are ALL german. He regiment hired on hen Austrian-Hungarian region is Austrian-Hugarian and not German.

PS : Then why you can't accept the fact austrian and german are not the same thing ?
In these days, austrians saw themself more german as now, as they were speaking german. because of this, the german speaking Units where called german.
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on February 27, 2014, 08:54:03 pm
Give the Germans Uhlans, make the Commonwealth's sharpshooters be regular Brits instead of Ghurkas, and I agree with this unit list 100%.
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: Killington on February 27, 2014, 09:24:32 pm
We need UK to have an Arabic unit so we can do Lawrence of Arabia :P
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on February 27, 2014, 09:55:43 pm
We need UK to have an Arabic unit so we can do Lawrence of Arabia :P

Maybe if we ever get a Middle Eastern Front update.
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: kpetschulat on February 28, 2014, 03:29:23 am
I made some changes. One of my gripes with the way we select units currently isthat the tabs are based on specific kinds of units. I would much rather have Page 1/2/3 than Infantry/Support/Specialists. This way, we can have more infantry troops, more cavalry troops, more colonial troops, etc.
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: Prince_Eugen on February 28, 2014, 03:34:12 pm
Will post some stuff about Russians when i'll get to my computer later.
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: Saga on February 28, 2014, 03:38:58 pm
I would love to see the Gordon Highlanders as the highland infantry...  ;D
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: Prince_Eugen on February 28, 2014, 06:12:51 pm
Russian Imperial Army

Infantry:
Regulyarnaya Pehota (Regular Infantry)
Serbskiy Korpus (Serbian Infantry)
Legion Puławski (Polish Infantry)
Plastuni (Cossack Infantry)
Strelki (Mountain Infantry/Light Infantry)
Reservisty/Opolchenie (Irregular Infantry(

Support:
Polevaya Battareya (Field battery)
Raschet Tyazhelogo Pulemeta (Heavy MG Crew)
Draguni (Dragoons)
Kozaki (Cossacks)

Special:
Saperi (Enginners/Sappers)
Polevoy Sanitar (Medic)
Morskay Pehota (Marines)
Snaiper (Sniper)
General
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: Friedrich on March 01, 2014, 11:51:07 pm
The german standard infantry would be called "Infanterie". "Landser" is soldier slang and in WW1 not common, it's best known and common later in WW2 (see Landser / german Wikipedia (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landser_(Soldat))).
But there was no "common" infantry, all infantry regiments were dedicated to a german state, so the standard infantry would be for example a "Preußische Infanterie". And all other additional infantry should be dedicated to the next biggest and important states (behind Prussia) in the German Empire: 1. Bavaria, 2. Saxony, 3. Württemberg, 4. Baden, 5. Hessen etc (according to inhabitants in 1914). Of course it would make sense when the "Scharfschützen" would be a Bavarian unit and not some Prussians (see: Alpenkorps / english Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpenkorps_(German_Empire))).

It looks cool to have more than one standard Infantry, but according to gamplay it would make for Germany no really sense, because in 1916 all common german infantry had the same uniform colored in "Feldgrau" (field grey / see this bavarian infantry (http://www.grosser-generalstab.de/tafeln/knoe19/knoe19_51.jpg) soldier on the right and these prussian infantry (http://www.grosser-generalstab.de/tafeln/knoe19/knoe19_04.jpg) guys) and the "Stahlhelm" (see Stahlhelm / english Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stahlhelm)) as equipment, there would be no visual difference between them. Maybe there could be still one infantry unit with a "Pickelhaube" (see Pickelhaube / english Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickelhaube)). Just to represent this nice piece of equipment what was still in use until 1916. And / or with the german field cap "Krätzchen" (see Krätzchen / german Wikipedia (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kr%C3%A4tzchen_(M%C3%BCtze))). Maybe as equipment of the smaller (and less wealthy) states in the German Empire, like Saxony or Baden (sorry to those german people, don't want to insult you  ;D ). This would make sense to distinguish regiments better in any event. Here this would make sense! :)

But "Alpenjäger" is just the designation for a division, not for a single unit. This would be simply called "Jäger", not with any special regional addition.


Just some examples HOW it could be (designated better):

Preußische Infanterie (Prussian Infantry) (with Stahlhelm)

Sächsische Infanterie (Saxon Infantry) (with Pickelhaube (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4b/Pickelhaube_mit_%C3%9Cberzug.jpg) / just to show the field coating, but later ones had no big red regiment numbers on it any more ;D )

Württembergische Reserve-Infanterie (Wurttembergian reserve Infantry) (with Krätzchen (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d4/Bundesarchiv_Bild_146-1970-009-59%2C_Telegraphist.jpg?uselang=de) / ugh, long name, lol. just as example)

Bayrische Jäger (Snipers)

Sturmtruppen (Assault Infantry)

Marine-Infanterie (Naval Infantry)

e.t.c
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: Archduke Sven on March 02, 2014, 12:47:05 am
Bayrische Jägers shouldn't be snipers. Snipers were just marksmen within companies, not a large designated formation.
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: Friedrich on March 02, 2014, 03:12:35 am
"Jäger" or "Schütze" was the rank designation for a common soldier of a Jäger-Bataillon. But "Schütze" as well for MG companies and MG cyclist companies. There was no special designation for snipers according to the german "Interessen- und Arbeitsgemeinschaft Weltkrieg 1914-1918" (Association World War 1914-1918).

link (in german, sorry) (http://www.agw14-18.de/selbzeug/dienstgrade.html)
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: kpetschulat on March 02, 2014, 03:43:54 am
Since snipers in the German army were attached to infantry companies, we can just change the name of snipers to Kompanie-Scharfschuetze. This way, the name respects what they actually were; Attached snipers. We can also remove the sniper in the specialist tree, put it under the regular infantry, then use that slot for something else.
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: Friedrich on March 02, 2014, 12:19:52 pm
Snipers attached to the regular infantry tabs would make sense, of course.

Petschie, what do you say to the rest of my suggestions (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=13915.msg520028#msg520028)?
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: Hawke on March 02, 2014, 01:49:15 pm
Gurkha's are Nepalese, not Indian.
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: kpetschulat on March 02, 2014, 01:53:44 pm
Snipers attached to the regular infantry tabs would make sense, of course.

Petschie, what do you say to the rest of my suggestions (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=13915.msg520028#msg520028)?

It's good. I know there were no real visual differences between the troops, but for the sake of there being more than just one basic troop, we have the multiple state troops. I think Bavarian reservists would be better than Wurttembergers, for reasons we all should know.
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: Stoniestpepper on March 03, 2014, 04:32:23 pm
I thought the Gurkhas carried rifles and a LMG, or some did
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: Captain America on March 03, 2014, 07:21:09 pm
Russian Imperial Army

Infantry:
Regulyarnaya Pehota (Regular Infantry)
Serbskiy Korpus (Serbian Infantry)
Legion Puławski (Polish Infantry)
Plastuni (Cossack Infantry)
Strelki (Mountain Infantry/Light Infantry)
Reservisty/Opolchenie (Irregular Infantry(

Support:
Polevaya Battareya (Field battery)
Raschet Tyazhelogo Pulemeta (Heavy MG Crew)
Draguni (Dragoons)
Kozaki (Cossacks)

Special:
Saperi (Enginners/Sappers)
Polevoy Sanitar (Medic)
Morskay Pehota (Marines)
Snaiper (Sniper)
General

No tachankas? Man you're missing out! I can't imagine they'd be too complicated to do, so long the tachanka had to be stationary to fire
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: Prince_Eugen on March 03, 2014, 08:01:23 pm
Russian Imperial Army

Infantry:
Regulyarnaya Pehota (Regular Infantry)
Serbskiy Korpus (Serbian Infantry)
Legion Puławski (Polish Infantry)
Plastuni (Cossack Infantry)
Strelki (Mountain Infantry/Light Infantry)
Reservisty/Opolchenie (Irregular Infantry(

Support:
Polevaya Battareya (Field battery)
Raschet Tyazhelogo Pulemeta (Heavy MG Crew)
Draguni (Dragoons)
Kozaki (Cossacks)

Special:
Saperi (Enginners/Sappers)
Polevoy Sanitar (Medic)
Morskay Pehota (Marines)
Snaiper (Sniper)
General

No tachankas? Man you're missing out! I can't imagine they'd be too complicated to do, so long the tachanka had to be stationary to fire
Sorry, but it was used after WWI in Russian Civil War, not earlier. And tachankas teams were able to shoot on move.
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: Captain America on March 03, 2014, 10:35:18 pm
Russian Imperial Army

Infantry:
Regulyarnaya Pehota (Regular Infantry)
Serbskiy Korpus (Serbian Infantry)
Legion Puławski (Polish Infantry)
Plastuni (Cossack Infantry)
Strelki (Mountain Infantry/Light Infantry)
Reservisty/Opolchenie (Irregular Infantry(

Support:
Polevaya Battareya (Field battery)
Raschet Tyazhelogo Pulemeta (Heavy MG Crew)
Draguni (Dragoons)
Kozaki (Cossacks)

Special:
Saperi (Enginners/Sappers)
Polevoy Sanitar (Medic)
Morskay Pehota (Marines)
Snaiper (Sniper)
General

No tachankas? Man you're missing out! I can't imagine they'd be too complicated to do, so long the tachanka had to be stationary to fire
Sorry, but it was used after WWI in Russian Civil War, not earlier. And tachankas teams were able to shoot on move.

There were definitely some in WWI, the Jerries captured a load of them and displayed them in Berlin, tended to be assigned to cavalry units rather than mainstream infantry though
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: Prince_Eugen on March 04, 2014, 07:47:17 am
Russian Imperial Army

Infantry:
Regulyarnaya Pehota (Regular Infantry)
Serbskiy Korpus (Serbian Infantry)
Legion Puławski (Polish Infantry)
Plastuni (Cossack Infantry)
Strelki (Mountain Infantry/Light Infantry)
Reservisty/Opolchenie (Irregular Infantry(

Support:
Polevaya Battareya (Field battery)
Raschet Tyazhelogo Pulemeta (Heavy MG Crew)
Draguni (Dragoons)
Kozaki (Cossacks)

Special:
Saperi (Enginners/Sappers)
Polevoy Sanitar (Medic)
Morskay Pehota (Marines)
Snaiper (Sniper)
General

No tachankas? Man you're missing out! I can't imagine they'd be too complicated to do, so long the tachanka had to be stationary to fire
Sorry, but it was used after WWI in Russian Civil War, not earlier. And tachankas teams were able to shoot on move.

There were definitely some in WWI, the Jerries captured a load of them and displayed them in Berlin, tended to be assigned to cavalry units rather than mainstream infantry though
My bad, i found. They were actually created in 1909 for cavalry units of Russian Army, but yeah, making them would be difficult.
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: Captain America on March 04, 2014, 09:23:22 am
would be totally worth it though, plus would make the eastern front a bit more mobile
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: Prince_Eugen on March 04, 2014, 11:41:02 am
Maybe like a sub-unit for cavalry.
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: Davout on March 04, 2014, 11:19:31 pm
no
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: KArantukki on March 04, 2014, 11:46:29 pm
Correct german names:

German Empire
Infantry
Landser
Sächsische Infanterie
Württembergische Infanterie
Alpenjäger
Sturmtruppen (better call it Sturmbataillon)
Support
Feldkannone (Artillery)
Schweres Maschinengewehr (better call it Schwere Maschinengewehr Abteilung)
Ulanen
Specialists
Pionier (S) / Pioniere (P)
Sanitäter (S)(P)
Marinesoldat (S) / Marinesoldaten (P)
Bayerischer Reservist (S) / Bayerische Reservisten (P)
Wachtposten (S)(P)
Scharfschütze (S) /  Scharfschützen (P)
General (Faction Commander)

Austria-Hungary
Infantry
Deutsche Infanterie
Ungarische Infanterie
Bosniaken
Tschechische Infanterie
Landwehr
Kaiserjäger
Support
Feldkannone
Schweres Maschinengewehr (better call it Schwere Maschinengewehr Abteilung)
Ungarische Hussaren
Specialists
Pionier (S) / Pioniere (P)
Sanitäter (S)(P)
Marinesoldat (S) / Marinesoldaten (P)   
Wachtposten (S)(P)
Scharfschütze (S) /  Scharfschützen (P)
General (Faction Commander)



Its a nice idea but i think the current system is good without any special units or regiment, also i dont think cav would be good in this mod.
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: Betaknight on March 05, 2014, 04:26:22 am
You never know until you try tukki. In any case Rigadoon will decide, I'll jus be the fat cow at the back carrying the pack of hate and equipment building tools. But we must take it slowly guys, Rome was not built in a day and neither is a faction without having problems with either codes or balancing issues.
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: Friedrich on March 05, 2014, 06:14:50 am
Just as i mentioned before, having different uniforms ingame (even if it is only headwear like for germany) would improve playing events with different regiments on one team.
True, otherwise it makes no sense at all. And I'm also not sure about cavalry in this mod. But I would definitly give it a try.
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: Ioan Cojocaru on March 06, 2014, 08:19:13 am
Could you possible add A Romanian-Transylvanian Army for Austro-Hungary Also I don't Bosnian were allowed in WW1 since the First Bosnians were Islamic
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: Archduke Sven on March 06, 2014, 11:53:29 am
Could you possible add A Romanian-Transylvanian Army for Austro-Hungary Also I don't Bosnian were allowed in WW1 since the First Bosnians were Islamic

Actually Bosnian volunteer units were considered elite units in the k.u.k. Armee.
Title: Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
Post by: lolman1c on March 07, 2014, 03:04:52 pm
I would love to see the engineers have barbed wire cutters or have a specialist unit for that.