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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5910 on: September 11, 2021, 03:23:08 am »
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Liberals stopped the bleeding but they lost some ground, English debates will make things clearer - but also people don't really watch the debates so idk

NDP still projected for a seat increase, they've done well

Bloc set to maintain their hold on rural QC, altho CPC looking to flip a few

Like all CDN elections, it'll come down to GTA toss-ups, key Atlantic seats, and BC suburbs

also I must say, Canada is frighteningly regional in its politics. Americans and Europeans complain about this as well generally but in CA it's kinda insane. CPC swept two whole provinces last election and managed merely opposition. Quebec, BC and the Maritimes are not too politically regionalized but in the rest of Canada geography essentially dictates voting intentions and that's frankly concerning.
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Meh, I'd say modern Western alienation is still a far cry away from the days of Reform and the CA.

Our lack of a functional upper chamber to promote regional interests is a driving factor there (it's why Reform used to have a hard on for a triple-E senate), in addition to insane party discipline that means provinces need to really swing for one party or another if they're going to influence federal policy.

Take on the English debate: Trudeau gave of an aura of mild panic the entire time, not a great night for him overall. O'Toole kinda just existed, definitely did a good job on hitting home the "moderate man" image. Singh made his rehearsed talking points seem natural enough, but beyond a few sound bites for the Toronto Star his arguments seemed mostly unsubstantive. Paul, likewise with O'Toole existed. Her jab at Trudeau being a "fake feminist" felt flat af. I'm not entirely confident Blanchet caught on to the "English" part of the debate.

Overall: anytime Trudeau opened his mouth shouting ensued, moderator asked unethically leading questions (especially the one on the QC secularism bill). Might hurt Trudeau a little, but no one gave a Mulroney or Layton worthy performance so it's probably inconsequential.

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5911 on: September 11, 2021, 04:38:27 am »
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Canadian election update:

Projections show it to be MAD close
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Liberals stopped the bleeding but they lost some ground, English debates will make things clearer - but also people don't really watch the debates so idk

NDP still projected for a seat increase, they've done well

Bloc set to maintain their hold on rural QC, altho CPC looking to flip a few

Like all CDN elections, it'll come down to GTA toss-ups, key Atlantic seats, and BC suburbs

also I must say, Canada is frighteningly regional in its politics. Americans and Europeans complain about this as well generally but in CA it's kinda insane. CPC swept two whole provinces last election and managed merely opposition. Quebec, BC and the Maritimes are not too politically regionalized but in the rest of Canada geography essentially dictates voting intentions and that's frankly concerning.
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Meh, I'd say modern Western alienation is still a far cry away from the days of Reform and the CA.

Our lack of a functional upper chamber to promote regional interests is a driving factor there (it's why Reform used to have a hard on for a triple-E senate), in addition to insane party discipline that means provinces need to really swing for one party or another if they're going to influence federal policy.

Take on the English debate: Trudeau gave of an aura of mild panic the entire time, not a great night for him overall. O'Toole kinda just existed, definitely did a good job on hitting home the "moderate man" image. Singh made his rehearsed talking points seem natural enough, but beyond a few sound bites for the Toronto Star his arguments seemed mostly unsubstantive. Paul, likewise with O'Toole existed. Her jab at Trudeau being a "fake feminist" felt flat af. I'm not entirely confident Blanchet caught on to the "English" part of the debate.

Overall: anytime Trudeau opened his mouth shouting ensued, moderator asked unethically leading questions (especially the one on the QC secularism bill). Might hurt Trudeau a little, but no one gave a Mulroney or Layton worthy performance so it's probably inconsequential.
The moderator wasn't the best tbh

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5912 on: September 11, 2021, 04:57:29 am »
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Canadian election update:

Projections show it to be MAD close
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Liberals stopped the bleeding but they lost some ground, English debates will make things clearer - but also people don't really watch the debates so idk

NDP still projected for a seat increase, they've done well

Bloc set to maintain their hold on rural QC, altho CPC looking to flip a few

Like all CDN elections, it'll come down to GTA toss-ups, key Atlantic seats, and BC suburbs

also I must say, Canada is frighteningly regional in its politics. Americans and Europeans complain about this as well generally but in CA it's kinda insane. CPC swept two whole provinces last election and managed merely opposition. Quebec, BC and the Maritimes are not too politically regionalized but in the rest of Canada geography essentially dictates voting intentions and that's frankly concerning.
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Meh, I'd say modern Western alienation is still a far cry away from the days of Reform and the CA.

Our lack of a functional upper chamber to promote regional interests is a driving factor there (it's why Reform used to have a hard on for a triple-E senate), in addition to insane party discipline that means provinces need to really swing for one party or another if they're going to influence federal policy.

Take on the English debate: Trudeau gave of an aura of mild panic the entire time, not a great night for him overall. O'Toole kinda just existed, definitely did a good job on hitting home the "moderate man" image. Singh made his rehearsed talking points seem natural enough, but beyond a few sound bites for the Toronto Star his arguments seemed mostly unsubstantive. Paul, likewise with O'Toole existed. Her jab at Trudeau being a "fake feminist" felt flat af. I'm not entirely confident Blanchet caught on to the "English" part of the debate.

Overall: anytime Trudeau opened his mouth shouting ensued, moderator asked unethically leading questions (especially the one on the QC secularism bill). Might hurt Trudeau a little, but no one gave a Mulroney or Layton worthy performance so it's probably inconsequential.
harper used the "i just exist please dont hurt me" for like 6 election wins in a row and the cpc somehow forgot that that's how you win as a conservative in canada

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5913 on: September 21, 2021, 05:16:38 am »

The results so far. As widely predicted the Liberals take another minority. It'll be interesting to see how many seats the government will be though.

This further underscores the pointlessness of this election lol. it's 2019 basically on repeat. please stop calling them justin im tired

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5914 on: September 21, 2021, 05:21:13 am »

The results so far. As widely predicted the Liberals take another minority. It'll be interesting to see how many seats the government will be though.

This further underscores the pointlessness of this election lol. it's 2019 basically on repeat. please stop calling them justin im tired
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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5915 on: September 21, 2021, 05:28:20 am »
love that the conservatives got more seats in the atlantic provinces tho, that was cool.
also ndp did a lot better
bloc isn't a one trick pony anymore, yves blanchet is a real political force

honestly it's crazy the way Canadians vote. such hyper regionalization. toronto votes vote on masse for a guy who can't remember how many times he did blackface. we are a silly country with a silly government

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5916 on: September 21, 2021, 12:03:12 pm »
*rings little bell*

Can we talk about inflation please helloooo UK got no food


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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5917 on: September 21, 2021, 01:01:06 pm »
*rings little bell*

Can we talk about inflation please helloooo UK got no food
i mean except fish n ship what are you guys really missing? not much tbh

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5918 on: September 21, 2021, 05:12:05 pm »
*rings little bell*

Can we talk about inflation please helloooo UK got no food
i mean except fish n ship what are you guys really missing? not much tbh



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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5919 on: September 22, 2021, 03:33:49 am »
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Canadian election szn!

LPC started out with a decent chance of a majority but a week into the campaign they've not run a good one so far, while the CPC has rolled out some popular policy proposals

Latest projections have the Liberals winning another minority but with less seats - due in large part to a more competitive CPC than last time and a more stable NDP

Popular vote has tightened in the past few days with the CPC and LPC running at basically a dead heat

Bloc facing some serious questions in whether they can repeat last election's success in Quebec

Green party imploding and the PPC not a serious threat

Gonna be an interesting one! You can check out the polls and projections at 338canada.com
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My overall prediction is a Lib min, Trudeau pulls a Mulroney and hands a shitfest to Freeland come next election. All other parties vapourize their leadership (Except for Bernier, who is gunned down by the dairy cartel).
Tory Syndrome here we come, the CPC is going back hard right.

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5920 on: October 01, 2021, 04:41:37 am »
But Mr Scholz says it is time for a new coalition with the Greens and liberals.

Sounds scary xd
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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5921 on: October 02, 2021, 10:43:16 am »
But Mr Scholz says it is time for a new coalition with the Greens and liberals.

Sounds scary xd

The SPD/Greens coalition worked just fine last time around (although as chancellors Scholz and Schröder are worlds apart ;D)
It will be interesting to see if they manage to find some sort of middle ground with the liberals, their party platforms dont mix very well

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5922 on: October 02, 2021, 03:30:18 pm »
what about the Fils De Pute party???



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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5923 on: November 15, 2021, 07:57:05 pm »


This is actually a video I wouldn't expect NYT to make.
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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5924 on: November 15, 2021, 08:17:30 pm »


This is actually a video I wouldn't expect NYT to make.

I believe the whole "liberal vs. conservative" argument is terrible, I wouldn't even consider "liberals" liberals, but rather progressives, people who want massive social changes. I consider liberals to be people who value personal freedoms and liberty, not people who are trying to get you fired over a vaccine mandate or because you won't participate in "diversity" training or even wish death upon people who died from covid that voted for Trump. I also feel that this "liberal vs. conservative" argument is very black and white when in reality, most people have different beliefs upon specific issues. The mainstream media, in general, is divisive, ignorant, and honestly, just a business fed on controversy and lies. The less I watched/read about it, the more peaceful life has been.