The General Political Thread

[William]

There's a running joke that my state (Texas) should secede from the U.S. and frankly it's the most capable state to do so, but I always point out to people that it would be a Brexit situation of having to renegotiate all our trade, but that seems better than being a Tax-donor state (we send more money to the Federal government then we get back). It's really just a meh situation as the U.S. continues to slowly fall from its hegemony, but as 2016 pointed out, all a rival country has to do is promote some sectarian facebook pages and Americans start fighting each other and burning down towns (lul).

[Duuring]

Why would it? What would it gain? The logic 'we pay more than we get' is barely valid as you could literally continueing seceding richer parts away from poorer parts right down to the micro-level. Looking at you, Catalonia.

[StevenChilton]

Why would it? What would it gain? The logic 'we pay more than we get' is barely valid as you could literally continueing seceding richer parts away from poorer parts right down to the micro-level. Looking at you, Catalonia.

I think it's more about arguments of nationhood. Texas was an independent republic that won its own war against Mexico before it joined the USA.

[William]

Why would it? What would it gain? The logic 'we pay more than we get' is barely valid as you could literally continueing seceding richer parts away from poorer parts right down to the micro-level. Looking at you, Catalonia.

I think it's more about arguments of nationhood. Texas was an independent republic that won its own war against Mexico before it joined the USA.

Fun fact: Texas was a lot bigger than our current size, but we also made Santa Anna sign the treaty of independence with guns all around him, so that's probably why.

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[close]

Why would it? What would it gain? The logic 'we pay more than we get' is barely valid as you could literally continueing seceding richer parts away from poorer parts right down to the micro-level. Looking at you, Catalonia.

It's time for the Jedi United States to end and for the Eastern Roman Empire Texas to rise.

[TheBoberton]

Why would it? What would it gain?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereignty

[DaMonkey]

If you come over as a 'peacekeeper' you'll be lucky to leave in a body bag.

[Riddlez]

You really misunderstand what peacekeepers are for and how they get somewhere in the first place.

What you are thinking of is 'democracy-bringer'.

If you come over as a 'peacekeeper' you'll be lucky to leave in a body bag.

r/iamverybadass

[DaMonkey]

I am not making any claims about my own actions, merely pointing out that 'those hillbillies in the woods' aren't going to be as easy to 'persuade' as people will undoubtedly lead on.

[Sgt.Winters]

I am not making any claims about my own actions, merely pointing out that 'those hillbillies in the woods' aren't going to be as easy to 'persuade' as people will undoubtedly lead on.

Contrary to popular belief, they are proficient shooters and well versed in guerrilla warfare.

[Olafson]

Hickok45 could defeat an entire army just by himself.

[DaMonkey]

Especially if it's an army of 2 liters.

[HaroldW]

Why would it? What would it gain?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereignty

Duuring's kryptonite

[Duuring]

Can't have something you gave up.

[DaMonkey]

What a ludicrous statement. Without even touching the way sovereignty had been setup to work, and did so until the mid 19th-century in the U.S., the idea you can't take back sovereignty once it has been lost is possibly the stupidest thing I have ever heard on this forum. The past century has seen hundreds of new polities retake or forge anew their sovereignty; both by peaceful and violent means.

[Duuring]

It was meant sarcastic and a slight reference to the last time Texas tried leaving the Union.

To classify Texas as a nation that is different from the US is somewhat laughable considering pretty much its entire Republican government, including all its presidents and fifty-seven of the sixty signers of its declaration of independence were Americans. The majority of who were, in the eyes of the Mexican law, illegal immigrants. Russia could learn from this example.