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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #465 on: March 27, 2017, 11:09:43 pm »
When Americans starts seeing Russia as a potential ally.. What a meme.
Keep your friends close and enemies closer? idk why the two largest nuclear powers in the world having close cooperation is a bad thing.
Has international pressure to change Russia's ways changed anything? Doesn't seem like it

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #466 on: March 28, 2017, 09:20:09 am »
Source?

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #467 on: March 28, 2017, 11:38:15 am »
When Americans starts seeing Russia as a potential ally.. What a meme.

They aren't even Commies anymore, it's fine.

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #468 on: March 28, 2017, 12:43:04 pm »
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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #469 on: March 28, 2017, 02:26:09 pm »
FSE only recognise two genders, that's discriminatory against trans-people.



Come on Olafson, it's 2017-there are over 71 genders and more are being discovered every day.

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #470 on: March 28, 2017, 02:40:05 pm »
FSE only recognise two genders, that's discriminatory against trans-people.



Come on Olafson, it's 2017-there are over 71 genders and more are being discovered every day.

There are only 2 genders, get your liberal conspiracy filth out of here.

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #471 on: March 28, 2017, 03:28:12 pm »
When Americans starts seeing Russia as a potential ally.. What a meme.
Keep your friends close and enemies closer? idk why the two largest nuclear powers in the world having close cooperation is a bad thing.
Has international pressure to change Russia's ways changed anything? Doesn't seem like it
It's not about the fact that they're both large, powerful and have nuclear weapons. The issue with befriending Russia is their blatant corruption, silencing of the press, locking up political opponents/dissidents and disregard for modern borders. Pretending that it isn't happening does nothing to help the US's image as a supposed bastion of liberty and justice.
Obviously it extends to many other countries as well, including Saudi Arabia, China, Turkey and so on, but we all know that consumers love cheap shit and oil and the US wouldn't want to do anything to harm its relationship with its main suppliers.
Not that I believe any of that crap about the US anyway, but if they're going to spout that bullshit everywhere the least they could do is attempt to uphold it.

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #472 on: March 28, 2017, 04:13:56 pm »
But why spending even a dime on conventional warfare if even throwing a rock at a West-German border guard would have started nuclear war and destroyed civilization as we know it? Sure, there is the occasional jab in Korea or Vietnam, but why were there so many troops stationed in Europe?

The only definitive answer is that we did and could not rely on nukes or M.A.D. to protect the balance of power. There is no point in doing a second strike if you know the first one will leave you completely destroyed anyway, other then vengance.

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #473 on: March 28, 2017, 06:00:12 pm »
They were there because the Soviets put vast numbers there too so the US and NATO reciprocated. And Korea and Vietnam were hardly 'occasional jabs'. The US fights a serious war roughly every 15 years.

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #474 on: March 30, 2017, 06:29:14 pm »
Russia-NATO talks about Ukraine conflict failed. A very positive thing is that NATO and Russia did exchange information about troop building and exercises on the borders, to prevent accidents.

This really shows: "we really don't like each other, but we also really don't want to fight each other."
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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #475 on: March 31, 2017, 10:52:51 am »
NATO always gives information on large exercises and invites Russian and Belarussian officials to observe them. It's such standard procedure.

Russia, at the other hand, likes to do 'snap exercises' which come as a surprise for troops and NATO officials alike. Just for fun. Just like they enjoy sending aircrafts into our airspace for shit and giggles.

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #476 on: March 31, 2017, 12:32:21 pm »
Russia-NATO talks about Ukraine conflict failed. A very positive thing is that NATO and Russia did exchange information about troop building and exercises on the borders, to prevent accidents.

This really shows: "we really don't like each other, but we also really don't want to fight each other."

Ah ha they still move troops into Ukraine without reprocussion and Trump seems to be fine with it.

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #477 on: March 31, 2017, 12:50:05 pm »
Russia-NATO talks about Ukraine conflict failed. A very positive thing is that NATO and Russia did exchange information about troop building and exercises on the borders, to prevent accidents.

This really shows: "we really don't like each other, but we also really don't want to fight each other."

Ah ha they still move troops into Ukraine without reprocussion and Trump seems to be fine with it.
Who are you addressing when you say "they"

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« Reply #478 on: March 31, 2017, 01:16:56 pm »
But now that both sides shared, at least it shows some measure of goodwill.
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« Reply #479 on: March 31, 2017, 09:47:09 pm »
But now that both sides shared, at least it shows some measure of goodwill.

Ukrainians are dying every day and you rejoice about Russian goodwill through an action considered standard procedure.