The General Political Thread

[AP0CALYPS3]

This thread is for : Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread, not for whatever thing you dislike about mods, the rules, CRs, or for whatever other offtopic topic.

Now get back on topic, and pm/steam duuring if you want to talk to him about something, or talk to a CR.

Will he actually respond or care?

[BabyJesus]

Lmao. Bears actually put a school on lockdown. God bless Betsy Devoss

http://www.freep.com/story/news/nation/2017/03/02/betsy-devos/98635018/

[AP0CALYPS3]

Lmao. Bears actually put a school on lockdown. God bless Betsy Devoss

http://www.freep.com/story/news/nation/2017/03/02/betsy-devos/98635018/

That bear was a plant. Don't believe the lies.

[Rutger Müller]

"The General Political Thread"
doesn't this include the politics of FSE?

[AP0CALYPS3]

"The General Political Thread"
doesn't this include the politics of FSE?

Nothing in the title displays otherwise.

[StevenChilton]

Dutch elections in a little over a week, what are the predictions? I reckon Wilders will lead the largest party but will get nowhere near government. Also Rutte won't stay on as PM either-you can't lose almost half your support verses last time and still carry on.

[joer5835]

Polls are suggesting that Wilders has fallen behind Rutte since last week. It's likely that Wilders will remain as the head of the opposition, a role he seems most comfortable with. That and no other party would be willing to work with him, even if he does turn out the largest.

My predictions are that Rutte and his VVD will remain the largest, he will remain PM and will seek a coalition with the centrist parties, D66, CDA and perhaps even the Greens.

[Riddlez]

I am not as optimistic. The margins in the polls are still too small to say Rutte has overtaken Wilders. In the last week before the elections, both of them can still make a major fuck-up.
My guess is that Wilders will become the largest party, will be unable to form a coalition, no other workable coalition will form and we'll have a second set of elections in half a year.

[StevenChilton]

I wouldn't discount the possibility that the polls are completely wrong and understate the support for Wilders, much like they did for Brexit and Trump. If Wilders does far better than the polling implies then perhaps Le Pen could be on course for victory (which the polls state can't happen).

[Furrnox]

Kinda interested in seeing the first French presidential debate on the 20th if there's any site available with proper English subtitles. I doubt it though live subs tend to be pretty off.

I wouldn't discount the possibility that the polls are completely wrong and understate the support for Wilders, much like they did for Brexit and Trump. If Wilders does far better than the polling implies then perhaps Le Pen could be on course for victory (which the polls state can't happen).

According to current polls she will at least go to the second round.
Where she will face off against Macron if it goes according to the polls.

[Cara]

I will check this later but i'm sure I can find you a transcription (or decent subtitles) made for France's international TV like France 24.

Polls in France were (to this date) quite accurate and all showing the same global possibility of a second round Le Pen-Macron, even right-wing medias newspapers (pro Fillon). Fillon and Macron were pretty close for a few month but now the gap is clear after his scandal. It's quite impossible that Le Pen passes due to the strong opposition that will raise if she qualifies for the second round (as in 2002 with her father). The interesting and sad fact is that her opponent will win but with probably a lesser gap (Chirac-Le Pen was a 80/2 and here it will be a 60/40).

[Riddlez]

I wouldn't discount the possibility that the polls are completely wrong and understate the support for Wilders, much like they did for Brexit and Trump. If Wilders does far better than the polling implies then perhaps Le Pen could be on course for victory (which the polls state can't happen).

It has been actually the opposite. A lot of Wilders-voters say they support him, but don't show up to vote. Usually because they don't trust the system, or quite very well possibly this election, because he has been completely isolated by all relevant parties. He has no chance of forming a government at all.

[Edwin]

Inshallah Dutch Trump will win.

[Theodin]

Inshallah Dutch Trump will win.

French Trump? Inshallah?

[Edwin]

Mashallah, soon brother.