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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5880 on: August 26, 2021, 02:11:44 am »
Canadian election szn!

LPC started out with a decent chance of a majority but a week into the campaign they've not run a good one so far, while the CPC has rolled out some popular policy proposals

Latest projections have the Liberals winning another minority but with less seats - due in large part to a more competitive CPC than last time and a more stable NDP

Popular vote has tightened in the past few days with the CPC and LPC running at basically a dead heat

Bloc facing some serious questions in whether they can repeat last election's success in Quebec

Green party imploding and the PPC not a serious threat

Gonna be an interesting one! You can check out the polls and projections at 338canada.com

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5881 on: August 26, 2021, 02:32:36 am »
Canadian election szn!

LPC started out with a decent chance of a majority but a week into the campaign they've not run a good one so far, while the CPC has rolled out some popular policy proposals

Latest projections have the Liberals winning another minority but with less seats - due in large part to a more competitive CPC than last time and a more stable NDP

Popular vote has tightened in the past few days with the CPC and LPC running at basically a dead heat

Bloc facing some serious questions in whether they can repeat last election's success in Quebec

Green party imploding and the PPC not a serious threat

Gonna be an interesting one! You can check out the polls and projections at 338canada.com
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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5882 on: August 26, 2021, 03:11:08 am »
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Canadian election szn!

LPC started out with a decent chance of a majority but a week into the campaign they've not run a good one so far, while the CPC has rolled out some popular policy proposals

Latest projections have the Liberals winning another minority but with less seats - due in large part to a more competitive CPC than last time and a more stable NDP

Popular vote has tightened in the past few days with the CPC and LPC running at basically a dead heat

Bloc facing some serious questions in whether they can repeat last election's success in Quebec

Green party imploding and the PPC not a serious threat

Gonna be an interesting one! You can check out the polls and projections at 338canada.com
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I'd be weary of tracking polls using just 338, they absolutely botched the NS election, PC-NS had a 13% chance of a minority and wound up with a firm majority. They also had NL Libs winning a sweeping majority back in March, when in reality they gained a single seat (although the election being fucked up by the third wave of COVID may have factored in).

Tories have been doing a good job at marketing O'Toole for name recognition and he isn't as controversial as Scheer, if they can turn that into more BC, ATL, and GTA seats they may have a shot a a minority gov't. Had my man MacKay been leader I'd say that win would be a guarantee.

Only Liberal shot at a majority imo is if they can win Quebec and maybe a few urban seats out west.

The death of the Greens since May stepped down might return enough seats back to the NDP to keep Jagmeet around.

My overall prediction is a Lib min, Trudeau pulls a Mulroney and hands a shitfest to Freeland come next election. All other parties vapourize their leadership (Except for Bernier, who is gunned down by the dairy cartel).

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5883 on: August 26, 2021, 03:37:17 am »
Spoiler
Canadian election szn!

LPC started out with a decent chance of a majority but a week into the campaign they've not run a good one so far, while the CPC has rolled out some popular policy proposals

Latest projections have the Liberals winning another minority but with less seats - due in large part to a more competitive CPC than last time and a more stable NDP

Popular vote has tightened in the past few days with the CPC and LPC running at basically a dead heat

Bloc facing some serious questions in whether they can repeat last election's success in Quebec

Green party imploding and the PPC not a serious threat

Gonna be an interesting one! You can check out the polls and projections at 338canada.com
voting bloc  8) f*** trudeau
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Good man!

Spoiler
Spoiler
Canadian election szn!

LPC started out with a decent chance of a majority but a week into the campaign they've not run a good one so far, while the CPC has rolled out some popular policy proposals

Latest projections have the Liberals winning another minority but with less seats - due in large part to a more competitive CPC than last time and a more stable NDP

Popular vote has tightened in the past few days with the CPC and LPC running at basically a dead heat

Bloc facing some serious questions in whether they can repeat last election's success in Quebec

Green party imploding and the PPC not a serious threat

Gonna be an interesting one! You can check out the polls and projections at 338canada.com
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I'd be weary of tracking polls using just 338, they absolutely botched the NS election, PC-NS had a 13% chance of a minority and wound up with a firm majority. They also had NL Libs winning a sweeping majority back in March, when in reality they gained a single seat (although the election being fucked up by the third wave of COVID may have factored in).

Tories have been doing a good job at marketing O'Toole for name recognition and he isn't as controversial as Scheer, if they can turn that into more BC, ATL, and GTA seats they may have a shot a a minority gov't. Had my man MacKay been leader I'd say that win would be a guarantee.

Only Liberal shot at a majority imo is if they can win Quebec and maybe a few urban seats out west.

The death of the Greens since May stepped down might return enough seats back to the NDP to keep Jagmeet around.

My overall prediction is a Lib min, Trudeau pulls a Mulroney and hands a shitfest to Freeland come next election. All other parties vapourize their leadership (Except for Bernier, who is gunned down by the dairy cartel).

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Provincial elections are a shitshow to poll anyways. 338 got the last election almost perfectly and the polls he sources from are usually reliable so idk!

Speaking as someone who voted in the CPC leadership race, O'Toole was everyone's second or third choice - and I think that applies to Canadians in general as well. But he (and the party) are doing a fine job at both marketting him and running a sound campaign. CPC's always had ground game but policy and war rooming was always questionable, but this time they're leaving the ground game to the locals and focussing exclusively on marketting and war rooming and it's working. O'Toole has barely left Ottawa, which means he's fresh as hell, sees the trends before Trudeau, and isn't getting hammered on the road by op media. It's a strategy that will work best in courting suburban Ontario seats, I think.

Green collapse is funny. National media basically begged for them to be relevant for a decade, and after Lizzie couldn't get anything more than 2-3 seats, they're basically as effective as the PPC. Paul isn't even going to win her riding, by a lot!

If the CPC cut into the Liberal seat count in Ontario by like 5-10 and flip a couple seats in BC/ATL then O'Toole gets another shot tbh. Unless he does something stupid he's proven to be a better leader than Scheer, which will help his cause

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5884 on: August 26, 2021, 09:33:55 pm »
Spoiler
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Canadian election szn!

LPC started out with a decent chance of a majority but a week into the campaign they've not run a good one so far, while the CPC has rolled out some popular policy proposals

Latest projections have the Liberals winning another minority but with less seats - due in large part to a more competitive CPC than last time and a more stable NDP

Popular vote has tightened in the past few days with the CPC and LPC running at basically a dead heat

Bloc facing some serious questions in whether they can repeat last election's success in Quebec

Green party imploding and the PPC not a serious threat

Gonna be an interesting one! You can check out the polls and projections at 338canada.com
voting bloc  8) f*** trudeau
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Good man!

Spoiler
Spoiler
Canadian election szn!

LPC started out with a decent chance of a majority but a week into the campaign they've not run a good one so far, while the CPC has rolled out some popular policy proposals

Latest projections have the Liberals winning another minority but with less seats - due in large part to a more competitive CPC than last time and a more stable NDP

Popular vote has tightened in the past few days with the CPC and LPC running at basically a dead heat

Bloc facing some serious questions in whether they can repeat last election's success in Quebec

Green party imploding and the PPC not a serious threat

Gonna be an interesting one! You can check out the polls and projections at 338canada.com
[close]
I'd be weary of tracking polls using just 338, they absolutely botched the NS election, PC-NS had a 13% chance of a minority and wound up with a firm majority. They also had NL Libs winning a sweeping majority back in March, when in reality they gained a single seat (although the election being fucked up by the third wave of COVID may have factored in).

Tories have been doing a good job at marketing O'Toole for name recognition and he isn't as controversial as Scheer, if they can turn that into more BC, ATL, and GTA seats they may have a shot a a minority gov't. Had my man MacKay been leader I'd say that win would be a guarantee.

Only Liberal shot at a majority imo is if they can win Quebec and maybe a few urban seats out west.

The death of the Greens since May stepped down might return enough seats back to the NDP to keep Jagmeet around.

My overall prediction is a Lib min, Trudeau pulls a Mulroney and hands a shitfest to Freeland come next election. All other parties vapourize their leadership (Except for Bernier, who is gunned down by the dairy cartel).

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Provincial elections are a shitshow to poll anyways. 338 got the last election almost perfectly and the polls he sources from are usually reliable so idk!

Speaking as someone who voted in the CPC leadership race, O'Toole was everyone's second or third choice - and I think that applies to Canadians in general as well. But he (and the party) are doing a fine job at both marketting him and running a sound campaign. CPC's always had ground game but policy and war rooming was always questionable, but this time they're leaving the ground game to the locals and focussing exclusively on marketting and war rooming and it's working. O'Toole has barely left Ottawa, which means he's fresh as hell, sees the trends before Trudeau, and isn't getting hammered on the road by op media. It's a strategy that will work best in courting suburban Ontario seats, I think.

Green collapse is funny. National media basically begged for them to be relevant for a decade, and after Lizzie couldn't get anything more than 2-3 seats, they're basically as effective as the PPC. Paul isn't even going to win her riding, by a lot!

If the CPC cut into the Liberal seat count in Ontario by like 5-10 and flip a couple seats in BC/ATL then O'Toole gets another shot tbh. Unless he does something stupid he's proven to be a better leader than Scheer, which will help his cause
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Going to be interesting to see if the Greens return to their old strategy of trying to up their popular vote so they can receive funding. It was May who decided to focus on key seats over national support, she basically obliterated their grassroots framework and centralized control to her office. Gonna be interesting if they revert to their old system in the future. The fact that they're fighting for all but one seat and polling behind the BQ nationally is fucking hilarious.

Completely agree that O'Toole is doing far better than expected, makes me wonder if throwing out my membership card when he won and retreating to provincial politics was a sound choice :/ Unless they gain substantial seats however I doubt he'll be kept on, the Tory touch is still present: give the party a gov't or gtfo. Given his military experience I'd be interested to see how he handles the semi-ongoing shitfest in CAF leadership.

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5885 on: August 27, 2021, 02:11:10 am »
Afghanistan is a shitshow
It was always going to end this way. Coulda stayed another 20 years for the same thing. Should've never went in there in the first place.

Once we killed Osama we should've bailed. These Afghanis would rather have Sharia law anyways. They don't want democracy. They'll have tribal wars for the next 25 years until the next superpower wants to try and tame them. We gave them everything necessary to fight these dudes and they just didn't care lol.
Most of the population does not want sharia. As I understand it there are some organizations within the country focusing on getting women out of the country due to the increased risk. Never the less Bush #2 caused this and now everyone is blaming trump or biden :D

I saw a report that 99% of Muslims in Afghanistan would support Sharia law.

Here’s a tweet with a picture of the data
https://twitter.com/swati_gs/status/1427265492868235273?s=21

These people like living that way. Most of the country is tribes run by warlords essentially. Backwards civilization.

I don't think mobs of people would be trying to escape the country, and basically killing themselves clinging onto planes if they "liked" living that way, and I don't think a nearly decade-old poll of 1,000 people is enough to support that stance.

Obviously the people in the “modernized” city of Kabul are gonna want to flee. They are some of the few people living in what we’d call generally normal conditions with basic human rights. The rest of the country lives in a way we can’t really comprehend because it’s so backwards. If a majority of people there supported the way of life we expect, surely they would have put up some form of resistance after we left them with all the necessary means of doing so. I just hope all the people that want to leave are able to get home.
Finally a good take here

Kabul is not Afghanistan, its like saying NYC is America. They have an ancient way of life and they are happy living that way free of western degeneracy.

Also 13 killed today at least RIP to my bros

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5886 on: August 27, 2021, 10:24:09 am »
The sharia itself isn‘t defined but just a compilation of statements and instructions always left to be interpret. The Taliban do it in the most conservative way possible, something the majority does not agree with.

Anyway, the whole thing is totally lost and probably NATO‘s greatest defeat to this day. Plus - and this might be the only good thing we can possibly take from this debacle - after the last four turbulent years in the transatlantic alliance, we see once again that the United States simply aren’t fit for leadership anymore. Europe should finally take it‘s matters (and especially it‘s defense) into it‘s own hands and stop being so dependent.
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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5887 on: August 27, 2021, 06:25:27 pm »
The sharia itself isn‘t defined but just a compilation of statements and instructions always left to be interpret. The Taliban do it in the most conservative way possible, something the majority does not agree with.

Anyway, the whole thing is totally lost and probably NATO‘s greatest defeat to this day. Plus - and this might be the only good thing we can possibly take from this debacle - after the last four turbulent years in the transatlantic alliance, we see once again that the United States simply aren’t fit for leadership anymore. Europe should finally take it‘s matters (and especially it‘s defense) into it‘s own hands and stop being so dependent.
It's not difficult to call Afghanistan NATO's greatest defeat when the three other wars were all victories. The U.S managed to remain fit for leadership after the categorically bigger defeat it faced in Vietnam. It doesn't follow that despite having a larger and more advanced military than ever, 22,000 casualties in a counter-insurgency over a 20 year period voids it's ability to protect it's allies.

Not certain what you mean by "turbulent last four years" in NATO. If by that you mean the Trump presidency, then your final recommendation for Europe to look to it's own defence basically aligns itself with his policy towards NATO.

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5888 on: August 27, 2021, 08:55:35 pm »
It's not difficult to call Afghanistan NATO's greatest defeat when the three other wars were all victories. The U.S managed to remain fit for leadership after the categorically bigger defeat it faced in Vietnam. It doesn't follow that despite having a larger and more advanced military than ever, 22,000 casualties in a counter-insurgency over a 20 year period voids it's ability to protect it's allies.

Not certain what you mean by "turbulent last four years" in NATO. If by that you mean the Trump presidency, then your final recommendation for Europe to look to it's own defence basically aligns itself with his policy towards NATO.
Should have said 'the West' instead of NATO, my bad.

The problem I see is not a military one; it would be a damn shame if even with this needlessly big military budget the United States wouldn't be capable of executing large military operations. No, it is much more one of political will to take over the leadership of the West and not just think 'America first'. The hasty and uncommunicative retreat out of Afghanistan is just another example of that apparently lacking.

By 'transatlantic alliance' I mean the traditionally close partnership between European countries and the US, not just NATO. The Trump presidency and it's continuous attacks have left a bitter taste for most Europeans. Even though Biden is trying his best to act like nothing has happened, these wounds will need time to heal. Though, will they have the sufficent time to? What if after the current chaos Trump gets another 4 years? Or another politican with similar views on foreign affairs?

I am by no means proposing for Europe to cut all it's ties with the United States - a proposal most unrealistic with nothing to gain from neither sides anyway - but the current events in addition to the experiences made by Europe the past years should lead to them being more pro-active and independent, since you simply cannot fully rely on the United States anymore.
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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5889 on: August 30, 2021, 04:10:48 pm »
Latest election projection has the CPC in the lead, but still statistically tied with the LPC. I was not expecting these kind of numbers - but there's still a few weeks to go, so not over yet!


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« Reply #5890 on: September 01, 2021, 01:37:52 pm »
Can we discuss inflation / if American is immune to it and they can just let the machine go brrrr because the banks own the money and not the people?

As this is a game forum let's keep it on topic, if the dollar does go nuclear the entire games industry will be wiped out.


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« Reply #5891 on: September 01, 2021, 06:53:51 pm »
Can we discuss inflation / if American is immune to it and they can just let the machine go brrrr because the banks own the money and not the people?

As this is a game forum let's keep it on topic, if the dollar does go nuclear the entire games industry will be wiped out.

People will game regardless if the dollar is worth zero.
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« Reply #5892 on: September 01, 2021, 07:28:16 pm »
Can we discuss inflation / if American is immune to it and they can just let the machine go brrrr because the banks own the money and not the people?

As this is a game forum let's keep it on topic, if the dollar does go nuclear the entire games industry will be wiped out.

People will game regardless if the dollar is worth zero.

Majority of large western development companies use dollars to pay developers / fund their own development staff. Customers aren't the issue.

You'll see the rise of Eastern influence in video game media just like we're seeing with social media.




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« Reply #5893 on: September 01, 2021, 08:51:42 pm »
Is it a bad thing that I think Democracy is a joke and I wish the world still welcomed authoritarian style leadership and governments?


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« Reply #5894 on: September 01, 2021, 09:25:33 pm »
Is it a bad thing that I think Democracy is a joke and I wish the world still welcomed authoritarian style leadership and governments?

Are you the Bart Baker of FSE