The General Political Thread

[StevenChilton]

When France acts in its own interests it's greedy but when Britain does the same it's fine 

When have I ever said that? Of course Britain has always pushed its national interest when it comes to the EU, almost all countries do. The difference is British politicians don't bang on about how 'European' they are, how much they love the EU etc. We've never pretended to be anything like that.

Macron on the other hand styled himself as the ultimate European. He claimed it was his task to build 'more Europe' and push for Eurozone federalism etc. The guy even had 'Ode to Joy' played rather than 'La Marseilles' during his victory rally. Now he's prepared to see the Irish economy take a hit for the sake of a few million euros. Lol.

[Toffee]

It's about priorities. Of course he wants to further European interests, but not at the expense of those who elected him.

[Duuring]

Macron is pro-European because it's serves French interest.

[StevenChilton]

Now *this* is interesting. CANZUK is actively being discussed by the Canadian Conservatives at their big pre-election convention. If it passes it'll be official party policy and form part of the 2019 manifesto.



Should pass given it's backed by the leadership...

[Toffee]

Is there anywhere where the points are expanded upon or have they only just outlined them atm? Would be interesting to read.

[StevenChilton]

Is there anywhere where the points are expanded upon or have they only just outlined them atm? Would be interesting to read.

I think they're initially outlined in general then delegates go in and debate the detail. Of course they'll have prepared the detailed proposals beforehand to go in with so a lot should get published soon. In 2019 the New Zealand government is publishing its 'Closer Commonwealth Economic Relations (CCER)' proposals, basically CANZUK under a different name, which is basically folding the UK and Canada into the various Trans-Tasman agreements that exist between Australia and NZ (yes, you can have free movement/free trade/residency rights/mutual recognition of standards and qualifications etc without 28 unelected Commissioners dictating things...).

Ironically for all this talk of CANZUK being 'Empire 2.0' it's not actually Britain that's pushing this.

[McPero]

Now *this* is interesting. CANZUK is actively being discussed by the Canadian Conservatives at their big pre-election convention. If it passes it'll be official party policy and form part of the 2019 manifesto.



Should pass given it's backed by the leadership...

Conservatives winnig in canada lul? Im surprised they arent banned yet.

[Furrnox]

Looks like the 2019 election might be a close one.

[Edwin]

Fired like a dog

[Edwin]

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/08/08/politics/donald-trump-primaries/index.html

Are we tired yet, folks?

[Conway]

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/08/08/politics/donald-trump-primaries/index.html

Are we tired yet, folks?

Not my president

[Duuring]

Yep. I suggest following Ballotpedia's updates on the primaries, they've been saying this for the last few months now. Pro-Trump Republicans are winning primaries and in several hotly contested primaries none of the candidates actually opposed Trump. Meanwhile, Republican primary turn-out is higher then that of the Democrats and that could predict a low turn-out for Democratic voters during the General.

Take the Arizone US Senate seat, for example. It has been rated the most likely Senate Seat to flip during the 2018. McSally, the party-supported candidate and poll-favorite used to be critical of Trump in 2016 but has completely 180-degree-turned, and her two opponents are completely aligned with the Trump administration. They are all running on a pro-Trump/Administration platform, in a very unsafe seat, in a midterm election. Honestly, if the Democrats don't take this seat, they might as well stop trying.

The Democrats are still in a good position to take back the House, but with the Senate is unlikely to flip, the effects of that are really limited. If they fail, you might as well re-name the Republican Party the Trump Party and I'm willing to bet Trump will be almost ensured the Republican nomination for 2020.

[StevenChilton]

Good time to be a Republican I guess. There's also a few old Democrat judges on the Supreme Court that Trump will replace so I wouldn't be surprised if Roe vs Wade gets overturned.

[Duuring]

Good time to be a Republican I guess.

Good time to be a Trump-er. Whether or not that's the same thing as a Republican is to be seen come November.

There's also a few old Democrat judges on the Supreme Court that Trump will replace so I wouldn't be surprised if Roe vs Wade gets overturned.

Not to mention the conservative judges he's planting down on all courts. The USA is going to feel this one for a long time.

[William]

BUT HOW CAN I HAVE MY 10TH ABORTION NOW 😩😩😩