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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #285 on: October 13, 2013, 11:45:42 pm »
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« Reply #286 on: October 13, 2013, 11:47:32 pm »
What do you mean by suffering under Communist rule? only the rich people did there was no crimes in the communist states everyone had a job compared to the capitalist with the high amount of unemployed people, homeless etc. And dont drag the KGB or the GRU into this the USA was and are still using the CIA the exact same way as the sovjet used to the KGB and GRU. And it was the Sovjet union who won the war D-Day was completly uncessary the decisive moment of the war was at Stalingrad, Leningrad and Kursk.

You are completely fucking deluded.


What dont like the truth? its based on facts?

You're comparing criminal rates between a totalitarian police state, where dissidents are punished by a permanent visit to Siberia to a liberal democracy. Unemployment tends to be slightly lower in states that mandate collective farms and industries compared to free-market, business-oriented economies.The claim that there was no suffering under soviet rule shows how little of Soviet history you truly understand, or want to understand.

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« Reply #287 on: October 13, 2013, 11:49:56 pm »
Agreed im not a a real communist the avatar is just to provoke certain nazis and people that belive in American propaganda.

You do realize that war-photo was staged and photoshopped? They added more smoke for a dramatic effect, as well as removing one of the watches on the soldier (He had two, obviously looted), because the Soviets said stealing did not exist in their 'perfect' communist society, just like you just claimed.

What front was more important does not matter. Both the UK and the USSR could not have done without US support, especially tanks, weapons and other machinery.

Nobody wanted the D-Day landing more then the Soviets, especially Stalin himself, as they knew they would be unable to take on the whole German army - They needed an extra front.

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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #288 on: October 13, 2013, 11:51:25 pm »
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« Reply #289 on: October 13, 2013, 11:53:33 pm »
What do you mean by suffering under Communist rule? only the rich people did there was no crimes in the communist states everyone had a job compared to the capitalist with the high amount of unemployed people, homeless etc. And dont drag the KGB or the GRU into this the USA was and are still using the CIA the exact same way as the sovjet used to the KGB and GRU. And it was the Sovjet union who won the war D-Day was completly uncessary the decisive moment of the war was at Stalingrad, Leningrad and Kursk.

You are completely fucking deluded.


What dont like the truth? its based on facts?

You're comparing criminal rates between a totalitarian police state, where dissidents are punished by a permanent visit to Siberia to a liberal democracy. Unemployment tends to be slightly lower in states that mandate collective farms and industries compared to free-market, business-oriented economies.The claim that there was no suffering under soviet rule shows how little of Soviet history you truly understand, or want to understand.


There was suffering under the Sovjet rule but, i just want show how the USA is using the same "tactics" as the Sovjets or whats worst a permament visit to siberia or a killerdrone destroying your house and killing your family? having american bombers destroy your village having isreal troops kill your familiy using American weapons. or starving to death? booth countries are horrible im no real communist this avatar is used to provoke stupid nazis.

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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #290 on: October 13, 2013, 11:56:40 pm »
Yeah cos the US has totally killed multiple millions of people, the FBI and CIA are totally the same as the Cheka, wake up mate.


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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #291 on: October 13, 2013, 11:57:03 pm »
Agreed im not a a real communist the avatar is just to provoke certain nazis and people that belive in American propaganda.

You do realize that war-photo was staged and photoshopped? They added more smoke for a dramatic effect, as well as removing one of the watches on the soldier (He had two, obviously looted), because the Soviets said stealing did not exist in their 'perfect' communist society, just like you just claimed.

What front was more important does not matter. Both the UK and the USSR could not have done without US support, especially tanks, weapons and other machinery.

Nobody wanted the D-Day landing more then the Soviets, especially Stalin himself, as they knew they would be unable to take on the whole German army - They needed an extra front.

I do indeed know that and as i said its just to provoke nazis but and Communism wasnt perfect neither was the red army but they won the war and are you really in need of americans taking the honor for the war when you have pushed the germans back from leningrad to poland.

 the american supplies where extremly important i just wanna show you all how important the Sovjet was during the 2nd world war and remove the picture of the USA as Europes saviors.

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« Reply #292 on: October 13, 2013, 11:58:55 pm »
Yeah cos the US has totally killed multiple millions of people, the FBI and CIA are totally the same as the Cheka, wake up mate.

Ever heard of Iran, Afganistan, Iraq? or killerdrones? or what they did to southamerican socialist regims? time to wake up and get ride of the image of the perfect of the USA regim.

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« Reply #293 on: October 14, 2013, 12:00:59 am »
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this avatar is used to provoke stupid nazis.

Many people died before they could make that pictur. Many people died, in fact, for the sole purpose of taking that picture, so using it for that purpose is pretty much as disrespective as can be.

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i just wanna show you all how important the Sovjet was during the 2nd world war and remove the picture of the USA as Europes saviors.

'The sovjet' is used to describe on person living in the USSR. If you can't even get that right, how are we supposed to take you serious? You are just making an idiot of yourselves, and of the men you are trying to 'defend'. Just stop.

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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #294 on: October 14, 2013, 12:03:39 am »
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the american supplies where extremly important i just wanna show you all how important the Sovjet was during the 2nd world war and remove the picture of the USA as Europes saviors.


Yes, because we all need yo be enlightened by you about Soviet's and WW2.

Yeah cos the US has totally killed multiple millions of people, the FBI and CIA are totally the same as the Cheka, wake up mate.

Ever heard of Iran, Afganistan, Iraq? or killerdrones? or what they did to southamerican socialist regims? time to wake up and get ride of the image of the perfect of the USA regim.

Yes, but those arn't anything to the same scale as the actions of Stalin or Lenin before him.


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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #295 on: October 14, 2013, 12:04:30 am »
What do you mean by suffering under Communist rule? only the rich people did there was no crimes in the communist states everyone had a job compared to the capitalist with the high amount of unemployed people, homeless etc. And dont drag the KGB or the GRU into this the USA was and are still using the CIA the exact same way as the sovjet used to the KGB and GRU. And it was the Sovjet union who won the war D-Day was completly uncessary the decisive moment of the war was at Stalingrad, Leningrad and Kursk.

You are completely fucking deluded.


What dont like the truth? its based on facts?

You're comparing criminal rates between a totalitarian police state, where dissidents are punished by a permanent visit to Siberia to a liberal democracy. Unemployment tends to be slightly lower in states that mandate collective farms and industries compared to free-market, business-oriented economies.The claim that there was no suffering under soviet rule shows how little of Soviet history you truly understand, or want to understand.


There was suffering under the Sovjet rule but, i just want show how the USA is using the same "tactics" as the Sovjets or whats worst a permament visit to siberia or a killerdrone destroying your house and killing your family? having american bombers destroy your village having isreal troops kill your familiy using American weapons. or starving to death? booth countries are horrible im no real communist this avatar is used to provoke stupid nazis.

Do you really think the systematic murder of millions, and repression of hundreds of millions over nearly a century can compare to the destruction of some remote villages?

I'm not wasting any more time on this. Hopefully you will understand how wrong you are with time.

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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #296 on: October 14, 2013, 12:05:54 am »
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this avatar is used to provoke stupid nazis.

Many people died before they could make that pictur. Many people died, in fact, for the sole purpose of taking that picture, so using it for that purpose is pretty much as disrespective as can be.

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i just wanna show you all how important the Sovjet was during the 2nd world war and remove the picture of the USA as Europes saviors.

'The sovjet' is used to describe on person living in the USSR. If you can't even get that right, how are we supposed to take you serious? You are just making an idiot of yourselves, and of the men you are trying to 'defend'. Just stop.

Iam very sorry for bad english but im not from an english speaking country.  And im not defending Stalin trying to compare him George Bush to show that the USA also have done bad things. people died for that picture? so the USA have never done such a thing? sacrifed lifes for proganda? now i admit you guys are right i cant defend the Sovjet unions leaders but i wanna compare them to the USA and i hold on that that.

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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #297 on: October 14, 2013, 12:08:59 am »
What do you mean by suffering under Communist rule? only the rich people did there was no crimes in the communist states everyone had a job compared to the capitalist with the high amount of unemployed people, homeless etc. And dont drag the KGB or the GRU into this the USA was and are still using the CIA the exact same way as the sovjet used to the KGB and GRU. And it was the Sovjet union who won the war D-Day was completly uncessary the decisive moment of the war was at Stalingrad, Leningrad and Kursk.

You are completely fucking deluded.


What dont like the truth? its based on facts?

You're comparing criminal rates between a totalitarian police state, where dissidents are punished by a permanent visit to Siberia to a liberal democracy. Unemployment tends to be slightly lower in states that mandate collective farms and industries compared to free-market, business-oriented economies.The claim that there was no suffering under soviet rule shows how little of Soviet history you truly understand, or want to understand.


There was suffering under the Sovjet rule but, i just want show how the USA is using the same "tactics" as the Sovjets or whats worst a permament visit to siberia or a killerdrone destroying your house and killing your family? having american bombers destroy your village having isreal troops kill your familiy using American weapons. or starving to death? booth countries are horrible im no real communist this avatar is used to provoke stupid nazis.

Do you really think the systematic murder of millions, and repression of hundreds of millions over nearly a century can compare to the destruction of some remote villages?

I'm not wasting any more time on this. Hopefully you will understand how wrong you are with time.

Some remote villages? was Hiroshima a village or nagasaki? didnt alot of people die in Vietnamn?

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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #298 on: October 14, 2013, 12:10:16 am »
Now lets stop this before the admins bans/mutes us all.

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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #299 on: October 14, 2013, 12:10:40 am »
The bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki saved millions of lives. If you do not understand that, you are really not worth any of our time.