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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #270 on: October 12, 2013, 11:42:58 pm »
Please keep discussion focused on leaders themselves, and not every other topic that surrounds them.


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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #271 on: October 13, 2013, 12:37:36 am »
What do you mean by suffering under Communist rule? only the rich people did there was no crimes in the communist states everyone had a job compared to the capitalist with the high amount of unemployed people, homeless etc. And dont drag the KGB or the GRU into this the USA was and are still using the CIA the exact same way as the sovjet used to the KGB and GRU. And it was the Sovjet union who won the war D-Day was completly uncessary the decisive moment of the war was at Stalingrad, Leningrad and Kursk.


Grammar nazis please leave me alone im swedish, english isnt my native langue.

You are completely fucking deluded.


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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #272 on: October 13, 2013, 12:41:07 am »
What do you mean by suffering under Communist rule? only the rich people did there was no crimes in the communist states everyone had a job compared to the capitalist with the high amount of unemployed people, homeless etc. And dont drag the KGB or the GRU into this the USA was and are still using the CIA the exact same way as the sovjet used to the KGB and GRU. And it was the Sovjet union who won the war D-Day was completly uncessary the decisive moment of the war was at Stalingrad, Leningrad and Kursk.


Grammar nazis please leave me alone im swedish, english isnt my native langue.

You are completely fucking deluded.

Coming from someone who has Mitt Romney as their avatar...

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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #273 on: October 13, 2013, 12:42:41 am »
Which is obviously meant sarcastic.

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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #274 on: October 13, 2013, 09:46:41 pm »
Which is obviously meant sarcastic.

Even if it's not, is it so hard for people to even try and pretend that they think other people's opinions are legitimate?

It's like if I said everyone who eats sweetcorn is wrong and spend many hours of my day trying to convince them of how wrong they are for eating those disgusting yellow teethy things.
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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #275 on: October 13, 2013, 10:02:59 pm »


Otto von Bismarck

When Otto von Bismarck  became its Prime Minister in 1862, Prussia was a second-rate power overshadowed by Russia, Austria, France, and Britain. It was also unstable, its ancient monarchy and traditional Junker landowning class threatened by the rising forces of pan-German nationalism and liberal democratic revolution. When Bismarck retired in 1890, Prussia was the dominant part of a united German Empire which had become the greatest power in Europe. The old monarchy had not only survived, but the Prussian King had been transformed into a German Emperor. The Prussian aristocracy had become the military-bureaucratic masters of a mighty state.

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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #276 on: October 13, 2013, 11:17:14 pm »
What do you mean by suffering under Communist rule? only the rich people did there was no crimes in the communist states everyone had a job compared to the capitalist with the high amount of unemployed people, homeless etc. And dont drag the KGB or the GRU into this the USA was and are still using the CIA the exact same way as the sovjet used to the KGB and GRU. And it was the Sovjet union who won the war D-Day was completly uncessary the decisive moment of the war was at Stalingrad, Leningrad and Kursk.


Grammar nazis please leave me alone im swedish, english isnt my native langue.

You are completely fucking deluded.


What dont like the truth? its based on facts?

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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #277 on: October 13, 2013, 11:29:49 pm »
Real communism never existed to begin with. All those communist states were authoritarian regimes  u could argue that it was the dictatorship of the proletariat which is the intermediate system between capitalism and communism according to Marx.
On top of that no regime ever called itsself communist Mao talked bout New Democracy and Lenin bout War Communism. But real communism didnt exist and is probably unrealistic to ever establish as a form of goverment what most people think of as communism these days are only pictures the western propaganda(mainly of the US during the cold war) painted in the end those systems always had more of the characteristics of Dictatorships than of communism .

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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #278 on: October 13, 2013, 11:30:16 pm »
So you're saying that the thousands of Allied soldiers who were killed defending and liberating France were unimportant?

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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #279 on: October 13, 2013, 11:32:46 pm »
Alot more Sovjets died defending the homeland im just saying that they did the most of the work. the germans only hade a few divisions on the westfront the majority was at the eastfront+ france gave up after 3 weeks they didnt really do much.

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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #280 on: October 13, 2013, 11:34:13 pm »
Real communism never existed to begin with. All those communist states were authoritarian regimes  u could argue that it was the dictatorship of the proletariat which is the intermediate system between capitalism and communism according to Marx.
On top of that no regime ever called itsself communist Mao talked bout New Democracy and Lenin bout War Communism. But real communism didnt exist and is probably unrealistic to ever establish as a form of goverment what most people think of as communism these days are only pictures the western propaganda(mainly of the US during the cold war) painted in the end those systems always had more of the characteristics of Dictatorships than of communism .


Agreed im not a a real communist the avatar is just to provoke certain nazis and people that belive in American propaganda.

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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #281 on: October 13, 2013, 11:36:02 pm »
I'm not seeing how the Eastern Front was more important than the Western.

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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #282 on: October 13, 2013, 11:36:56 pm »
I'm not seeing how the Eastern Front was more important than the Western.

Are you really this stupid? just count the amount of dead germans on the east and the west.

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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #283 on: October 13, 2013, 11:38:48 pm »
I'm not sure you understand how things work.

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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #284 on: October 13, 2013, 11:40:13 pm »
I'm not sure you understand how things work.

Please explain then.