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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #525 on: June 06, 2017, 05:05:25 pm »
imho Wellington is the most overrated commander of the Napoleonic Wars and Archduke Charles is the most underrated
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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #526 on: June 06, 2017, 08:05:23 pm »
Napoleon and Wellington were both great leaders.

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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #527 on: June 06, 2017, 09:05:24 pm »
I've heard that Napoleon wasn't a great military leader and that his generals did a lot of the leading for him.

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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #528 on: June 06, 2017, 11:02:02 pm »
I've heard that Napoleon wasn't a great military leader and that his generals did a lot of the leading for him.

You've heard wrong tbh

Austerlitz alone was a stroke of pure military genius. He was also what I would describe as a "complete commander" - by which I mean not only was he a master of battlefield tactics, but a masterful strategist/campaigner and an inspirational leader as well. Always maneuvering into advantageous positions, dividing allied opponents attempting to join forces and routing them each in detail, encircling entire armies (case in point being the Ulm Campaign), etc.

He became almost lazy as he got older and started using more direct tactics (arguably losing some of his genius) but even in the Hundred Days days campaign he frustrated Wellington with his movements ("Napoleon has humbugged me, by God; he has gained twenty-four hours' march on me").
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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #529 on: June 06, 2017, 11:05:55 pm »
I've heard that Napoleon wasn't a great military leader and that his generals did a lot of the leading for him.

You've heard wrong tbh

Austerlitz alone was a stroke of pure military genius. He was also what I would describe as a "complete commander" - by which I mean not only was he a master of battlefield tactics, but a masterful strategist/campaigner and an inspirational leader as well. Always maneuvering into advantageous positions, dividing allied opponents attempting to join forces and routing them each in detail, encircling entire armies (case in point being the Ulm Campaign), etc.

He became almost lazy as he got older and started using more direct tactics (arguably losing some of his genius) but even in the Hundred Days days campaign he frustrated Wellington with his movements ("Napoleon has humbugged me, by God; he has gained twenty-four hours' march on me").

Napoleon is truly a god for the things he accomplished. By far my favorite leader.


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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #530 on: June 06, 2017, 11:20:50 pm »
I've heard that Napoleon wasn't a great military leader and that his generals did a lot of the leading for him.

You've heard wrong tbh

Austerlitz alone was a stroke of pure military genius. He was also what I would describe as a "complete commander" - by which I mean not only was he a master of battlefield tactics, but a masterful strategist/campaigner and an inspirational leader as well. Always maneuvering into advantageous positions, dividing allied opponents attempting to join forces and routing them each in detail, encircling entire armies (case in point being the Ulm Campaign), etc.

He became almost lazy as he got older and started using more direct tactics (arguably losing some of his genius) but even in the Hundred Days days campaign he frustrated Wellington with his movements ("Napoleon has humbugged me, by God; he has gained twenty-four hours' march on me").
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Napoleon Bonaparte is the best for 1 reason. He made an army capable of fighting Wellington in under 100 days. An impressive achievement for any leader.
Organizational skills alone don't make you a great leader

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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #531 on: June 06, 2017, 11:37:08 pm »
He was great strategist, a sound tactician and a good leader. But, he was also a pretty damned good politician. Then again, you don't make it beyond Colonel without being one. He made General at an impossibly early age.
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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #532 on: June 06, 2017, 11:58:31 pm »
Napoleon  :)

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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #533 on: June 07, 2017, 09:30:57 am »
He was great strategist, a sound tactician and a good leader. But, he was also a pretty damned good politician. Then again, you don't make it beyond Colonel without being one. He made General at an impossibly early age.
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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #534 on: June 07, 2017, 09:37:53 am »
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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #535 on: June 07, 2017, 09:39:10 am »
He is gone now, no?

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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #537 on: June 07, 2017, 04:32:31 pm »
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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #538 on: June 07, 2017, 04:43:38 pm »
I personally really liked Diplex because he was funny and we all really wanted to impress him so everyone was constantly GF'ing and dueling to improve for the the YT stardom.

I also really enjoyed Karth because the old school LB's we used to have with the 3eVolt were some serious affairs.. alongside Tico. I don't really think anyone I know today can match those two's demeanor and lowkey use of trash talk and banter during LB's. Great guys
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Re: Favourite All Time Leader(s)
« Reply #539 on: June 07, 2017, 04:54:26 pm »
did i really turn this historical discussion into a NW related one