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Title: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking *outdated*
Post by: Skyfall on January 15, 2016, 04:54:46 pm
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NAPOLEONIC WARS EUROPEAN RANKING

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi921.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad60%2FHard_Panzer%2F4%2520Brandenburgisches%2520Infantrie%2520Regiment%2FPoster_v3.png%7Eoriginal&hash=41f8012a2dce1b3717526a5ea6046e4feda3dd78)



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1. (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ficons.iconarchive.com%2Ficons%2Fcustom-icon-design%2Fround-world-flags%2F24%2FUnited-kingdom-icon.png&hash=8f28d5995a4b9ec5374941c2f52e3ebcd89ceec6) United Kingdom Iceland, 3309
2. (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ficons.iconarchive.com%2Ficons%2Fcustom-icon-design%2Fround-world-flags%2F24%2FFrance-icon.png&hash=a3f86a00d087af703f7820ab821ca710a9fcf6f8) France, 2746
3. (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ficons.iconarchive.com%2Ficons%2Fcustom-icon-design%2Fround-world-flags%2F24%2FGermany-icon.png&hash=a74102ba2f1386f53c6c50b7d8210ea1ec3d9671) Germany, 2105
4. (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ficons.iconarchive.com%2Ficons%2Fcustom-icon-design%2Fround-world-flags%2F24%2FNetherlands-icon.png&hash=5b1fd788d9183298514e7c421c2c762e4dd59086) Netherlands, 871
5. (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ficons.iconarchive.com%2Ficons%2Fcustom-icon-design%2Fround-world-flags%2F24%2FSweden-icon.png&hash=767e12fc39569dbc96ec5d6b0808a8e038085574) Sweden, 696
6. (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ficons.iconarchive.com%2Ficons%2Fcustom-icon-design%2Fround-world-flags%2F24%2FUkraine-icon.png&hash=2ef4f42b49b0766e3368b8ba0e53bf65d875e2a4) Ukraine, 534
7. (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ficons.iconarchive.com%2Ficons%2Fcustom-icon-design%2Fround-world-flags%2F24%2FRussia-icon.png&hash=64193105588c4bae36d66c8c999ebf995a711717) Russia, 520
8. (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ficons.iconarchive.com%2Ficons%2Fcustom-icon-design%2Fround-world-flags%2F24%2FDenmark-icon.png&hash=6b72912881f2cee39539454efa81d24f7e7a6d4c) Denmark, 430
9. (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ficons.iconarchive.com%2Ficons%2Fcustom-icon-design%2Fround-world-flags%2F24%2FBelgium-icon.png&hash=49fa1e59b673b20049b5cf6b5380ff190acdb0ea) Belgium, 420
10. (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ficons.iconarchive.com%2Ficons%2Fcustom-icon-design%2Fround-world-flags%2F24%2FCzech-Republic-icon.png&hash=dc40e448b513b8e777cdfcefe6de4f73e3d5e325) Czech Republic, 374
11. (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ficons.iconarchive.com%2Ficons%2Fcustom-icon-design%2Fround-world-flags%2F24%2FTurkey-icon.png&hash=f5ed2ad60a4c0459a670564bd8a6316bcab8f3d5) Turkey, 360
12. (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ficons.iconarchive.com%2Ficons%2Fcustom-icon-design%2Fround-world-flags%2F24%2FPoland-icon.png&hash=d1a9006b644634f950ce804bac773a1a28fb4db6) Poland, 336
13. (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ficons.iconarchive.com%2Ficons%2Fcustom-icon-design%2Fround-world-flags%2F24%2FSlovakia-icon.png&hash=60bb6b73508509b9a7e08b28cd9568f91b86ff25) Slovakia, 266
14. (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ficons.iconarchive.com%2Ficons%2Fcustom-icon-design%2Fround-world-flags%2F24%2FCroatia-icon.png&hash=786d5e6e3dcbe203a64db95d44cc365a364413cc) Yugoslavia, 252
15. (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ficons.iconarchive.com%2Ficons%2Fcustom-icon-design%2Fround-world-flags%2F24%2FIreland-icon.png&hash=e8b4799431f7cdedbbb5e278590266edccbf0db0) Ireland, 222
16. (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ficons.iconarchive.com%2Ficons%2Fcustom-icon-design%2Fround-world-flags%2F24%2FAustria-icon.png&hash=5443f059f151d9ac907622bf3dc71b3da7609e0a) Austria, 164
17. (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ficons.iconarchive.com%2Ficons%2Fcustom-icon-design%2Fround-world-flags%2F24%2FSpain-icon.png&hash=e624ac04afc26a59922cb7f5f3c8133393c0bd39) Spain, 156
18. (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ficons.iconarchive.com%2Ficons%2Fcustom-icon-design%2Fround-world-flags%2F24%2FSerbia-icon.png&hash=5199699cd15c89a5744dfc4c4ca83727b4e860e8) Serbia, 144
19. (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ficons.iconarchive.com%2Ficons%2Fcustom-icon-design%2Fround-world-flags%2F24%2FItaly-icon.png&hash=8e45d33e0f8005264d11db16bd9c587bbc3951e3) Italy, 102
20. (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ficons.iconarchive.com%2Ficons%2Fcustom-icon-design%2Fround-world-flags%2F24%2FFinland-icon.png&hash=cdfa7b3b974610169a682debd97975047151017c) Finland, 91
21. (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ficons.iconarchive.com%2Ficons%2Fcustom-icon-design%2Fround-world-flags%2F24%2FWales-icon.png&hash=b33fe9fd791efd3e1e4e7ff08b2ed2c5a126cd44) Wales, 81
22. (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ficons.iconarchive.com%2Ficons%2Fcustom-icon-design%2Fround-world-flags%2F24%2FLuxembourg-icon.png&hash=2372b40bef8e8c417df41f61cf9e116a133cd70d) Luxembourg, 53
23. (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ficons.iconarchive.com%2Ficons%2Fcustom-icon-design%2Fround-world-flags%2F24%2FNorway-icon.png&hash=197c115486ddcb2ea2d94b76d289f78b8df28f97) Norway, 10
24. (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ficons.iconarchive.com%2Ficons%2Fcustom-icon-design%2Fround-world-flags%2F24%2Fgreece-icon.png&hash=efa15effdaea4ffd626b58590f8d707762708ce5) Greece, 0
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Warning: I need to double-check the data. I'll do it in the next days

Spoiler
Canada (171 pts) and USA (72 pts) played in the NWWC 2013 and in the NWWC 2015. However, they are not in the ranking because they played on EU server with an high ping, it wouldnt be fair.
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F.A.Q.

How does it work?

Basically I used this formula for each match played by these nations:
Code
P = M x I x T
P = points gained
M = result of the match; 3 pt victory, 1 pt draw, 0 pt loss
I = importance of the match; 1 pt for the matches of the group stages, 2 pt for the quarter finals, 3 pt for the semifinals and the bronze matches and 4 points for the finals. NOTE: for the mini-NWWC this changed a bit, because it didn't have a group stage and it was a "mini" tournament, not as important as the other ones. So I used 1 pt for the 1st,2nd and 3rd round, 2 pt for the semifinals and bronze match, and 3 for the finals.
T = strength of the opposite team, this is calculated using (40 - n); n = ranking of the opposite team. NOTE: for the first tournament, the NWWC 2013, I ranked all the teams in the same position.
Moreover, for the matches lost with a gap of 3 or less rounds I gave 10 pt bonus for the team defeated.

Example
Group Stage NWWC 2029, match: UK (ranked 1st) vs Slovakia (ranked 13th). Results: UK wins 10-9
Scores: Slovakia 10 pts (bonus); UK pt = 3 x 1 x (40-13)= 81
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Why does Ukraine have more points than Russia?

Ukraine and Russia played as a single team for the first three tournaments. They played on their own for the mini-NWWC. So, both of them have the points of the Russia-Ukraine coalition + the points they made in the last tournament. Same for Czech Republic and Slovakia (that played as Czechoslovakia) and Canada and USA (played as North America in 2013).

What tournaments did you consider?

NWWC 2013 10v10 https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=9622.0
NWEC 2014 https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=14926.0
NWWC 2015 https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=22221.msg934929#msg934929
mini-NWWC https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=26870.msg1172068#msg1172068

How can I use this?

It could be used in the next tournaments. Anyway feel free to use it at your convenience.

Can I help you?

Sure, you could help me with a decent introduction (my english is shitty :) ) or with data and other stats that I'm planning to add, PM me!
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Skyfall on January 15, 2016, 04:55:03 pm
Rankings of the past years
previous rankings
2013

1.United Kingdom 864
2. France 576
   Germany 576
4 Netherlands 360
5. Russia-Ukraine 154
6 Sweden144
   Serbia 144
8  Turkey 106
9. Balkans 96
10 Austria 72
     North America 72
12 Poland24
     Denmark 24
14 Finland 0
     Greece 0
     Italy 0
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2014

1 United Kingdom 2079
2 France 1254
3 Germany 1056
4 Netherlands 538
5 Russia-Ukraine 430
6 Belgium 398
7 Yugoslavia (ex Balkans) 252
8 Sweden 228
9 Poland 198
10 Turkey182
11 Serbia 144
12 Ireland 78
13 Austria 72
     North america 72
15 Denmark 34
16 Czechoslovakia 10
17 Finland 0
     Greece 0
     Italy 0
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2015, before m-NWWC

1 United Kingdom 3309
2 France 2017
3 Germany 1787
4 Netherlands 871
5 Sweden 493
6 Russia-Ukraine 441
7 Denmark  430
8 Belgium 398
9 Turkey 350
10 Poland 336
11 Czechoslovakia 266
12 Yugoslavia 252
13 Ireland 147
14 Serbia144
15 Italy 102
16 Canada 99
17 Finland 81
    Wales 81
19 Austria 72
    USA 72
21 Spain 69
22 Greece 0
     Norway 0
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Winners
United Kingdom: 2013, 2014, 2015
France: 2015

Media
France v UK, final NWWC 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5-t_Si7POc
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UK v France, final NWEC 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E2YxyCaynY
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UK v Germany, final NWWC 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYDAFybD8FU
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stats coming soon
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: AeroNinja on January 15, 2016, 04:57:45 pm
420 Belgium. Whoop whoop.

I agree with the list. Tho, i would give France slightly more points. But that's just me.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Gokiller on January 15, 2016, 05:02:02 pm
To bad the first two NWEC's (pilot + first) weren't taken into account. :P

Finland seems to be really underrated though.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on January 15, 2016, 05:08:32 pm
Greece = 0

:'(

Btw Yugoslavia doesn't exist anymore
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: OttoFIN on January 15, 2016, 05:10:44 pm
I didn't know that people in Luxembourg play NW.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Skyfall on January 15, 2016, 05:16:45 pm
Quote from: The Mighty McLovin on January 15, 2016, 05:08:32 pm

Btw Yugoslavia doesn't exist anymore

Ikr, but the Balkans countries played as Yugoslavia a couple of times.

Quote from: Gokiller on January 15, 2016, 05:02:02 pm
To bad the first two NWEC's (pilot + first) weren't taken into account. :P

Lack of informations sorry :(
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: |Heinrich| on January 15, 2016, 05:21:37 pm
lol Yes! wales beat NA fuck you yankies
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Gokiller on January 15, 2016, 05:25:52 pm
Quote from: The Mighty McLovin on January 15, 2016, 05:08:32 pm
Greece = 0

:'(

Btw Yugoslavia doesn't exist anymore
There were Yugoslavian teams in the past.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Dazzer on January 15, 2016, 05:29:34 pm
Good work, but what is this for? I don't understand Maths  :P  ;D
Slovakia is better than Suomi and Murica  8)
Btw "Luxemburg" is spelled Luxembourg
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: maccle on January 15, 2016, 05:43:36 pm
Ye bois Canada #16 get it in
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Alexander on January 15, 2016, 06:07:44 pm
1v5 vs Germany was not enough.  :'(
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: CrumpetAwesome on January 15, 2016, 07:51:12 pm
Lol Brit's first as it should be ;)
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: GerRagnar on January 15, 2016, 07:56:09 pm
Quote from: CrumpetAwesome on January 15, 2016, 07:51:12 pm
Lol Brit's first as it should be ;)

just because of you
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: bobertini on January 15, 2016, 07:57:07 pm
SWEDEN BOIIS
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: BabyJesus on January 15, 2016, 08:14:10 pm
US below Canada lol
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Dazzer on January 15, 2016, 08:23:08 pm
Quote from: BabyJesus on January 15, 2016, 08:14:10 pm
US below Canada lol
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Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: RebelliouS on January 15, 2016, 08:24:26 pm
Disband Turkey innit too bad place  :(
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on January 15, 2016, 08:27:50 pm
I think USA/Canada should probs be removed from this cause the only tournaments we competed in EU wise, we were using all EU servers lol.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Sleek on January 15, 2016, 08:32:39 pm
Quote from: AP0CALYPS3 on January 15, 2016, 08:27:50 pm
I think USA/Canada should probs be removed from this cause the only tournaments we competed in EU wise, we were using all EU servers lol.

Also we ended up dropping out of most tournaments because of lack of interest or players
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: DayBoul on January 15, 2016, 08:38:56 pm
I would say that Sweden>Netherlands
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Gokiller on January 15, 2016, 08:46:16 pm
Quote from: DayBoul on January 15, 2016, 08:38:56 pm
I would say that Sweden>Netherlands
Why? The Dutch team performed overall (all 4 tournaments taken) better then the Swedish team. Hence why it has more points.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: bobertini on January 15, 2016, 09:02:11 pm
Quote from: Gokiller on January 15, 2016, 08:46:16 pm
Quote from: DayBoul on January 15, 2016, 08:38:56 pm
I would say that Sweden>Netherlands
Why? The Dutch team performed overall (all 4 tournaments taken) better then the Swedish team. Hence why it has more points.
Last training match vs NL Sweden beat them twice even as german eddie as an invite. But history NL is far more superior to SWE.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Gokiller on January 15, 2016, 09:11:54 pm
Yeah well if we're looking outside the sources of this ranking list. Then the Dutch team is definitely above Sweden, taking all performances from the past.
But the point was that the Netherlands are above Sweden using these specific sources.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Skyfall on January 15, 2016, 09:48:00 pm
Quote from: Sleek on January 15, 2016, 08:32:39 pm
Quote from: AP0CALYPS3 on January 15, 2016, 08:27:50 pm
I think USA/Canada should probs be removed from this cause the only tournaments we competed in EU wise, we were using all EU servers lol.

Also we ended up dropping out of most tournaments because of lack of interest or players

Honestly, average american ping is quite good, it's around 90-110 isnt'it? So yeah, it's obviously very high, but you can still play.
Turkish, balkanians and also italians have high pings too. Moreover hosting NWWC in France and Netherlands does make sense. It would be stupid host it in USA or Turkey.

Quote from: Gokiller on January 15, 2016, 09:11:54 pm
Yeah well if we're looking outside the sources of this ranking list. Then the Dutch team is definitely above Sweden, taking all performances from the past.
But the point was that the Netherlands are above Sweden using these specific sources.

That's true. However Sweden played really well in the last 2 tournaments and they gained a lot of points in the ranking. Tomorrow I'll upload the rankings of the past years so you'll be able to notice its evolution.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Petl25 on January 15, 2016, 09:50:54 pm
Czech republic 10th place. I wanted too see it ranked a little bit higher.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Skyfall on January 15, 2016, 09:58:00 pm
Quote from: Petl25 on January 15, 2016, 09:50:54 pm
Czech republic 10th place. I wanted too see it ranked a little bit higher.

They missed the 1st tournament
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Tammo on January 15, 2016, 10:57:18 pm
Quote from: Skyfall on January 15, 2016, 09:48:00 pm
Quote from: Sleek on January 15, 2016, 08:32:39 pm
Quote from: AP0CALYPS3 on January 15, 2016, 08:27:50 pm
I think USA/Canada should probs be removed from this cause the only tournaments we competed in EU wise, we were using all EU servers lol.

Also we ended up dropping out of most tournaments because of lack of interest or players

Honestly, average american ping is quite good, it's around 90-110 isnt'it? So yeah, it's obviously very high, but you can still play.
Turkish, balkanians and also italians have high pings too. Moreover hosting NWWC in France and Netherlands does make sense. It would be stupid host it in USA or Turkey.

Quote from: Gokiller on January 15, 2016, 09:11:54 pm
Yeah well if we're looking outside the sources of this ranking list. Then the Dutch team is definitely above Sweden, taking all performances from the past.
But the point was that the Netherlands are above Sweden using these specific sources.

That's true. However Sweden played really well in the last 2 tournaments and they gained a lot of points in the ranking. Tomorrow I'll upload the rankings of the past years so you'll be able to notice its evolution.

Like 4 people i know get 90 ping, im east coast and get 130 ping. Its doable, but having 1-70 ping is a huge advantage.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on January 15, 2016, 11:08:53 pm
^ when we played the Germans I had 180 ping.

I am also east coast.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: BillTheButcher on January 15, 2016, 11:12:14 pm
hey whaddya know, Another thread of people making up bs rankings and running with it
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Alexander on January 15, 2016, 11:19:07 pm
Quote from: AP0CALYPS3 on January 15, 2016, 11:08:53 pm
^ when we played the Germans I had 180 ping.

I am also east coast.
my friend, germans 2 ez
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on January 15, 2016, 11:20:25 pm
All I'm saying is because US/Canada cannot be accurately placed here, they should just be taken off.

This is a EU list, using EU tournaments (technically, the NWWC was open to us, but let's be real)

Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Skyfall on January 15, 2016, 11:28:18 pm
Quote from: AP0CALYPS3 on January 15, 2016, 11:20:25 pm
All I'm saying is because US/Canada cannot be accurately placed here, they should just be taken off.

I understood, but imho other nations had ping problems so we have to accept that the ping is part of the game. If you want to host the american nations cup it's fine and people from europe will decide if they want to partecipate or not. The North american community decided to join 2 of the european cups, they knew that the ping was a problem, but they played and they also won some matches. You should be proud of the 16th place of Canada tbh.

Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Skyfall on January 15, 2016, 11:29:40 pm
Anyway, if you and the other members of the team USA dont want to be on this ranking I will remove you, just let me know. Same for Canada
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on January 15, 2016, 11:39:33 pm
Its not a pride thing, its an accuracy thing.

I just dont feel like the US/Canada could possibly be accurately portrayed on these rankings. Even if we played equal rounds on NA/EU servers in these tournaments, the score still would not accurately portray the skill of either side.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Skyfall on January 15, 2016, 11:52:07 pm
I got your point. I have a different opinion but that's okay. Unfortunately I don't know any NA player so I cant ask anyone about it, but if you find other ex members , captains if possible, of the team USA with your same idea I'll remove USA from the ranking, no problem. You had a good point after all. I just need more than a single opinion. So, just let me know about it
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: BabyJesus on January 15, 2016, 11:56:04 pm
I'm captain of America. Make USA #1 or remove them!
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Cazasar on January 16, 2016, 12:46:43 am
Great list. Since I will host the next NWWC I might use these for Matchmaking :)

Its quite interesting how incredebly dominant the first 3 Nations are.

Sry for any spelling mistakes im slightly drunk :(
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Fwuffy on January 16, 2016, 12:56:37 am
Quote from: Cazasar on January 16, 2016, 12:46:43 am
Great list. Since I will host the next NWWC I might use these for Matchmaking :)

Its quite interesting how incredebly dominant the first 3 Nations are.

Sry for any spelling mistakes im slightly drunk :(
ye germany so dominant it ties with czechoslovakia which actually comes on top of the group, yeyeyeye
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Rhen on January 16, 2016, 01:15:16 am
Quote from: Cazasar on January 16, 2016, 12:46:43 am
Great list. Since I will host the next NWWC I might use these for Matchmaking :)

Its quite interesting how incredebly dominant the first 3 Nations are.

Sry for any spelling mistakes im slightly drunk :(

Yah, the three largest Western European nations in the community. Incredeble. xD
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Gokiller on January 16, 2016, 01:51:17 am
Quote from: Skyfall on January 15, 2016, 09:48:00 pm
That's true. However Sweden played really well in the last 2 tournaments and they gained a lot of points in the ranking. Tomorrow I'll upload the rankings of the past years so you'll be able to notice its evolution.
The Dutch team won the pilot and first NWEC though. Winning semi-finals/finals from the UK, France and Germany. But that was a while back though. Something the Swedes (most likely) never did.
But again those 'achievements' have nothing to do with the current ranking list. So, either way, the rankings look fine.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Theodin on January 16, 2016, 02:39:16 am
Well, you can check with Herishey, but I was team Canada captain, and Canada should not be on that list. We got destroyed in every single NWWC matchup, and only got a win because some team forfeited.
Quite honestly, the results would have been different on NA servers, and the list should represent that. Remove NA teams, please.
Although thanks for the #16 xD
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Kore on January 16, 2016, 02:53:35 am
Quote from: Skyfall on January 15, 2016, 09:58:00 pm
Quote from: Petl25 on January 15, 2016, 09:50:54 pm
Czech republic 10th place. I wanted too see it ranked a little bit higher.

They missed the 1st tournament

Czechoslovakia played 3 big tourneys + mini-NWWC

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=483.0
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Windflower on January 16, 2016, 02:56:18 am
Remove NA plz
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Gokiller on January 16, 2016, 03:35:24 am
Quote from: Kore on January 16, 2016, 02:53:35 am
Quote from: Skyfall on January 15, 2016, 09:58:00 pm
Quote from: Petl25 on January 15, 2016, 09:50:54 pm
Czech republic 10th place. I wanted too see it ranked a little bit higher.

They missed the 1st tournament

Czechoslovakia played 3 big tourneys + mini-NWWC

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=483.0
That one and the pilot aren't taken into account. Only the onces after that because there was a lack of data apparently.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Kore on January 16, 2016, 03:40:46 am
Quote from: Gokiller on January 16, 2016, 03:35:24 am
Quote from: Kore on January 16, 2016, 02:53:35 am
Quote from: Skyfall on January 15, 2016, 09:58:00 pm
Quote from: Petl25 on January 15, 2016, 09:50:54 pm
Czech republic 10th place. I wanted too see it ranked a little bit higher.

They missed the 1st tournament

Czechoslovakia played 3 big tourneys + mini-NWWC

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=483.0
That one and the pilot aren't taken into account. Only the onces after that because there was a lack of data apparently.
That's why I linked it, because it seems Skyfall was either lazy to search through the huge mess or lazy to take this one into account.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Carolus. on January 16, 2016, 06:31:48 am
Quote from: Gokiller on January 16, 2016, 01:51:17 am
Quote from: Skyfall on January 15, 2016, 09:48:00 pm
That's true. However Sweden played really well in the last 2 tournaments and they gained a lot of points in the ranking. Tomorrow I'll upload the rankings of the past years so you'll be able to notice its evolution.
The Dutch team won the pilot and first NWEC though. Winning semi-finals/finals from the UK, France and Germany. But that was a while back though. Something the Swedes (most likely) never did.
But again those 'achievements' have nothing to do with the current ranking list. So, either way, the rankings look fine.

Netherlands is like Sweden, only 50% more players with a 10th of our ping. Considering the performance prior to and during the mini-nwwc they should create a national holiday and throw a 2nd new years party just to celebrate their 4th place on this list.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Bakarat on January 16, 2016, 09:21:16 am
oh carolus thats harsh :( i will try to make the next nwwc cuz dutchies need bakabitch for moral support.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Skyfall on January 16, 2016, 09:28:45 am
Quote from: Kore on January 16, 2016, 03:40:46 am

That's why I linked it, because it seems Skyfall was either lazy to search through the huge mess or lazy to take this one into account.

I found that topic, the results of the final and the bronze match aren't updated

@NA boys, kk i'll remove you later
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Dokletian on January 16, 2016, 10:34:21 am
Cavalry Nations Cup:

France: 1st Place
Germany: 2nd Place
Spain: 3rd Place

Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Carolus. on January 16, 2016, 10:37:51 am
Quote from: Dokletian on January 16, 2016, 10:34:21 am
Cavalry Nations Cup:

France: 1st Place
Germany: 2nd Place
Spain: 3rd Place

Cav ;D who's the arty and skirm top dogz?

Quote from: Bakarat on January 16, 2016, 09:21:16 am
oh carolus thats harsh :( i will try to make the next nwwc cuz dutchies need bakabitch for moral support.

Haha do its, if you download a movie and stream an episode of south park at the same time to make the ping similar to mine i'll give you some proper cred if you win :)
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Bakarat on January 16, 2016, 11:28:04 am
i play with some torrents  on sometimes, highest ping i get is 30  :-[
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Carolus. on January 16, 2016, 11:52:31 am
Quote from: Skyfall on January 16, 2016, 09:28:45 am
Quote from: Kore on January 16, 2016, 03:40:46 am

That's why I linked it, because it seems Skyfall was either lazy to search through the huge mess or lazy to take this one into account.

I found that topic, the results of the final and the bronze match aren't updated

@NA boys, kk i'll remove you later

Up the importance of mnwwc

Quote from: Bakarat on January 16, 2016, 11:28:04 am
i play with some torrents  on sometimes, highest ping i get is 30  :-[

Hahaha still half my ping 8)
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Kore on January 16, 2016, 11:58:46 am
Quote from: Skyfall on January 16, 2016, 09:28:45 am
Quote from: Kore on January 16, 2016, 03:40:46 am

That's why I linked it, because it seems Skyfall was either lazy to search through the huge mess or lazy to take this one into account.

I found that topic, the results of the final and the bronze match aren't updated

@NA boys, kk i'll remove you later
Ah, didn't notice that, sorry.

Well NL won it, UK was a runner-up and France ended up third, but I don't know the scores, sadly.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Nick Lazanis on January 16, 2016, 12:07:46 pm
Yugoslavia? Wat
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Tardet on January 16, 2016, 12:18:54 pm
If you take the Cavarly Nation Cups into account, 1st and 2nd Edition, than France is probably the most regular Nation at high level. (Infantry : 3rd, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd / Cavalry : 2nd, 1st). But since the list is only Infantry Based, than you have done a pretty good work Skyfall, nothing I didn't know, but it just shows the UK superiority for so many years, which is all credits to them.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Skyfall on January 16, 2016, 12:24:42 pm
Quote from: Tardet on January 16, 2016, 12:18:54 pm
If you take the Cavarly Nation Cups into account, 1st and 2nd Edition, than France is probably the most regular Nation at high level. (Infantry : 3rd, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd / Cavalry : 2nd, 1st). But since the list is only Infantry Based, than you have done a pretty good work Skyfall, nothing I didn't know, but it just shows the UK superiority for so many years, which is all credits to them.

Thanks. I'm planning to add the cavalry ranking, but I need to double-check the infantry one and add some stats before.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Carolus. on January 16, 2016, 03:21:09 pm
Quote from: Skyfall on January 16, 2016, 12:24:42 pm
Quote from: Tardet on January 16, 2016, 12:18:54 pm
If you take the Cavarly Nation Cups into account, 1st and 2nd Edition, than France is probably the most regular Nation at high level. (Infantry : 3rd, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd / Cavalry : 2nd, 1st). But since the list is only Infantry Based, than you have done a pretty good work Skyfall, nothing I didn't know, but it just shows the UK superiority for so many years, which is all credits to them.

Thanks. I'm planning to add the cavalry ranking, but I need to double-check the infantry one and add some stats before.

Up the importance of the m-nwwc aswell.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Skyfall on January 16, 2016, 03:37:03 pm
Quote from: Carolusrex on January 16, 2016, 03:21:09 pm
Up the importance of the m-nwwc aswell.

It's not as important as the other cups, and it was just 5 v 5. Moreover, it didnt have a group stage. It's still important, but not as the other tournaments.

I added something in the second post and I removed NA from the ranking.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Carolus. on January 16, 2016, 04:09:00 pm
Quote from: Skyfall on January 16, 2016, 03:37:03 pm
Quote from: Carolusrex on January 16, 2016, 03:21:09 pm
Up the importance of the m-nwwc aswell.

It's not as important as the other cups, and it was just 5 v 5. Moreover, it didnt have a group stage. It's still important, but not as the other tournaments.

I added something in the second post and I removed NA from the ranking.

Why would you say that? I'd say everyone participating took it just as serious.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: huanmpth on January 16, 2016, 04:32:08 pm
Quote from: Dokletian on January 16, 2016, 10:34:21 am
Cavalry Nations Cup:

France: 1st Place
Germany: 2nd Place
Spain: 3rd Place

No, 1st is:
Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnocoastbias.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F09%2Fbigthree-610x250.jpg&hash=ba7cbef7477561d24216199728b6d52aa48db451)
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Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Skyfall on January 16, 2016, 04:58:05 pm
Quote from: Carolusrex on January 16, 2016, 04:09:00 pm

Why would you say that? I'd say everyone participating took it just as serious.
Ofc it was an important and serious tournament, but, without the group stage, it was easier to reach the quarter finals and the semifinals.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: PrideofNi on January 16, 2016, 05:52:21 pm
LOL Ireland stronk. If they would have let me form Ulster we could have went far higher.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Carolus. on January 16, 2016, 06:50:39 pm
Quote from: Skyfall on January 16, 2016, 04:58:05 pm
Quote from: Carolusrex on January 16, 2016, 04:09:00 pm

Why would you say that? I'd say everyone participating took it just as serious.
Ofc it was an important and serious tournament, but, without the group stage, it was easier to reach the quarter finals and the semifinals.

Thats bs. All the Big 3 Nations in the semis no big surprises. Just what nations are you thinking of if I may ask? Looking at the bracket pretty much all results are logic and well deserved. Still nice to see my buddies carrying on from last tourny and the close game against France to another tight one vs Germany in the m-nwwc.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Skyfall on January 16, 2016, 06:58:27 pm
Quote from: Carolusrex on January 16, 2016, 06:50:39 pm
Quote from: Skyfall on January 16, 2016, 04:58:05 pm
Quote from: Carolusrex on January 16, 2016, 04:09:00 pm

Why would you say that? I'd say everyone participating took it just as serious.
Ofc it was an important and serious tournament, but, without the group stage, it was easier to reach the quarter finals and the semifinals.

Thats bs. All the Big 3 Nations in the semis no big surprises. Just what nations are you thinking of if I may ask? Looking at the bracket pretty much all results are logic and well deserved. Still nice to see my buddies carrying on from last tourny and the close game against France to another tight one vs Germany in the m-nwwc.

Never said that they didnt deserve it. Whitout a group stage is obv easier to reach the quarter and semi finals. In the NNWC 2015 a team had to play 4 matches to reach the semi finals, in the mini-NWWC just 2 or 3. You can't say that the mini-NWWC was as important as the other NWWC, or anyway that is not my opinion. Got it?
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: DayBoul on January 16, 2016, 07:38:49 pm
Quote from: Cazasar on January 16, 2016, 12:46:43 am
Great list. Since I will host the next NWWC I might use these for Matchmaking :)

Its quite interesting how incredebly dominant the first 3 Nations are.

Sry for any spelling mistakes im slightly drunk :(

Sweden lost only 6-7 to Germany, remember ?

And I believe Austria should be higher ranked since they are far better than some Yougoslavian, Irish, Polish or Slovakian teams (No offense lads <3)
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Herishey on January 16, 2016, 07:42:46 pm
Quote from: DayBoul on January 16, 2016, 07:38:49 pm
Quote from: Cazasar on January 16, 2016, 12:46:43 am
Great list. Since I will host the next NWWC I might use these for Matchmaking :)

Its quite interesting how incredebly dominant the first 3 Nations are.

Sry for any spelling mistakes im slightly drunk :(

Sweden lost only 6-7 to Germany, remember ?

And I believe Austria should be higher ranked since they are far better than some Yougoslavian, Irish, Polish or Slovakian teams (No offense lads <3)
Yeah but they never were too sustainable in other NWEC/NWWC's unfortunately.

Nice idea tho.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: Norwegian13 on January 16, 2016, 08:22:47 pm
rip norway
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: Gokiller on January 16, 2016, 09:15:57 pm
Quote from: Carolusrex on January 16, 2016, 06:31:48 am
Netherlands is like Sweden, only 50% more players with a 10th of our ping. Considering the performance prior to and during the mini-nwwc they should create a national holiday and throw a 2nd new years party just to celebrate their 4th place on this list.
;D
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Carolus. on January 16, 2016, 10:25:36 pm
Quote from: Skyfall on January 16, 2016, 06:58:27 pm
Quote from: Carolusrex on January 16, 2016, 06:50:39 pm
Quote from: Skyfall on January 16, 2016, 04:58:05 pm
Quote from: Carolusrex on January 16, 2016, 04:09:00 pm

Why would you say that? I'd say everyone participating took it just as serious.
Ofc it was an important and serious tournament, but, without the group stage, it was easier to reach the quarter finals and the semifinals.

Thats bs. All the Big 3 Nations in the semis no big surprises. Just what nations are you thinking of if I may ask? Looking at the bracket pretty much all results are logic and well deserved. Still nice to see my buddies carrying on from last tourny and the close game against France to another tight one vs Germany in the m-nwwc.

Never said that they didnt deserve it. Whitout a group stage is obv easier to reach the quarter and semi finals. In the NNWC 2015 a team had to play 4 matches to reach the semi finals, in the mini-NWWC just 2 or 3. You can't say that the mini-NWWC was as important as the other NWWC, or anyway that is not my opinion. Got it?

IF you look at the nations making it to the QF and SF its the same nations that would have made it through a group stage anyways. Except for one nation, the Netherlands but they had a less competetive team that tournament and lost to a better Czech team. So there wasnt really any surprises imo. Instead of having a group stage Herishey just saved us alot of time. Cheers HeriNub. The amount of matches is irrelevant when the expected nations still wins their matches.

Quote from: DayBoul on January 16, 2016, 07:38:49 pm
Quote from: Cazasar on January 16, 2016, 12:46:43 am
Great list. Since I will host the next NWWC I might use these for Matchmaking :)

Its quite interesting how incredebly dominant the first 3 Nations are.

Sry for any spelling mistakes im slightly drunk :(

Sweden lost only 6-7 to Germany, remember ?

And I believe Austria should be higher ranked since they are far better than some Yougoslavian, Irish, Polish or Slovakian teams (No offense lads <3)

6-7, The lads we're so close. Like when we were up 9-7 vs France one tournament earlier but got nervous and froze and the Frenchies pulled it back making it 11-9 rip :'(
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: Skyfall on January 17, 2016, 12:11:59 am
Carolus I dont really see your point. That's fair enough imo, so I won't change it soz
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: Carolus. on January 17, 2016, 01:25:29 am
Quote from: Skyfall on January 17, 2016, 12:11:59 am
Carolus I dont really see your point.

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Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: Haze on January 17, 2016, 04:18:13 am
Nice to see France in 2nd,last m-nwwc was a lot of work from our side.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: Hannibaru on January 17, 2016, 12:02:03 pm
I have my own country of barbarian unicorns called narnia so please add me and my followers to the list
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Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: DayBoul on January 17, 2016, 01:59:32 pm
Quote from: Carolusrex on January 17, 2016, 01:25:29 am
Quote from: Skyfall on January 17, 2016, 12:11:59 am
Carolus I dont really see your point.

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Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars World Ranking
Post by: Alator on January 17, 2016, 02:05:42 pm
Quote from: Carolusrex on January 16, 2016, 10:25:36 pm
Quote from: Skyfall on January 16, 2016, 06:58:27 pm
Quote from: Carolusrex on January 16, 2016, 06:50:39 pm
Quote from: Skyfall on January 16, 2016, 04:58:05 pm
Quote from: Carolusrex on January 16, 2016, 04:09:00 pm

Why would you say that? I'd say everyone participating took it just as serious.
Ofc it was an important and serious tournament, but, without the group stage, it was easier to reach the quarter finals and the semifinals.

Thats bs. All the Big 3 Nations in the semis no big surprises. Just what nations are you thinking of if I may ask? Looking at the bracket pretty much all results are logic and well deserved. Still nice to see my buddies carrying on from last tourny and the close game against France to another tight one vs Germany in the m-nwwc.

Never said that they didnt deserve it. Whitout a group stage is obv easier to reach the quarter and semi finals. In the NNWC 2015 a team had to play 4 matches to reach the semi finals, in the mini-NWWC just 2 or 3. You can't say that the mini-NWWC was as important as the other NWWC, or anyway that is not my opinion. Got it?

IF you look at the nations making it to the QF and SF its the same nations that would have made it through a group stage anyways. Except for one nation, the Netherlands but they had a less competetive team that tournament and lost to a better Czech team. So there wasnt really any surprises imo. Instead of having a group stage Herishey just saved us alot of time. Cheers HeriNub. The amount of matches is irrelevant when the expected nations still wins their matches.

Quote from: DayBoul on January 16, 2016, 07:38:49 pm
Quote from: Cazasar on January 16, 2016, 12:46:43 am
Great list. Since I will host the next NWWC I might use these for Matchmaking :)

Its quite interesting how incredebly dominant the first 3 Nations are.

Sry for any spelling mistakes im slightly drunk :(

Sweden lost only 6-7 to Germany, remember ?

And I believe Austria should be higher ranked since they are far better than some Yougoslavian, Irish, Polish or Slovakian teams (No offense lads <3)

6-7, The lads we're so close. Like when we were up 9-7 vs France one tournament earlier but got nervous and froze and the Frenchies pulled it back making it 11-9 rip :'(

That match against Germany was the closest match I've seen in a while. Maybe would have won if not for that stunpoke on DasBrot in the first round. :c
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: Carolus. on January 17, 2016, 05:58:48 pm
Quote from: DayBoul on January 17, 2016, 01:59:32 pm
Quote from: Carolusrex on January 17, 2016, 01:25:29 am
Quote from: Skyfall on January 17, 2016, 12:11:59 am
Carolus I dont really see your point.

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Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: DayBoul on January 17, 2016, 06:23:05 pm
Quote from: Carolusrex on January 17, 2016, 05:58:48 pm
Quote from: DayBoul on January 17, 2016, 01:59:32 pm
Quote from: Carolusrex on January 17, 2016, 01:25:29 am
Quote from: Skyfall on January 17, 2016, 12:11:59 am
Carolus I dont really see your point.

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Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: Carolus. on January 17, 2016, 07:22:01 pm
Quote from: DayBoul on January 17, 2016, 06:23:05 pm
Quote from: Carolusrex on January 17, 2016, 05:58:48 pm
Quote from: DayBoul on January 17, 2016, 01:59:32 pm
Quote from: Carolusrex on January 17, 2016, 01:25:29 am
Quote from: Skyfall on January 17, 2016, 12:11:59 am
Carolus I dont really see your point.

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Haha how are you mon ami? :-*

Sick. Damn winter. &You ?  :P

Perfect m8, soon I'll get home from work. Wont be back until next friday so its almost a week off. First thing I will do is to pour me a big glass of whiskey and put in an enormous snus. Simply amazing! Then I'll go on TS and bully EPICxPIZZA a bit if he's online ;D
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: RebelliouS on January 17, 2016, 07:26:56 pm
If pilot was taken into account Turkey would be higher not 11th , because we beat 11-10 but as rules were applied it was announced as draw Poland (there is a video of this match recorded by Melton) which had really strong players back then . Also we beat Sweden which was also had a golden squad lead by Svensson (there is a video of this match recorded by Melton). Then we also had an amazing comeback against NL which won that cup score was like 8-3 or so we made it 10-10 (wish there was a video of this epic match :( ) but after Sweden got utterly shrekt by NL 11-0 we were eliminated  :-\

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrwkbUZYQpc - Polska vs Turkey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VYo2bVyn64 - Sweden vs Turkey
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: Windflower on January 17, 2016, 07:35:43 pm
you forgot to post Turkey vs Canada
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: DayBoul on January 17, 2016, 07:43:38 pm
Quote from: Carolusrex on January 17, 2016, 07:22:01 pm
Quote from: DayBoul on January 17, 2016, 06:23:05 pm
Quote from: Carolusrex on January 17, 2016, 05:58:48 pm
Quote from: DayBoul on January 17, 2016, 01:59:32 pm
Quote from: Carolusrex on January 17, 2016, 01:25:29 am
Quote from: Skyfall on January 17, 2016, 12:11:59 am
Carolus I dont really see your point.

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Calle is love, Calle is lyfe

Haha how are you mon ami? :-*

Sick. Damn winter. &You ?  :P

Perfect m8, soon I'll get home from work. Wont be back until next friday so its almost a week off. First thing I will do is to pour me a big glass of whiskey and put in an enormous snus. Simply amazing! Then I'll go on TS and bully EPICxPIZZA a bit if he's online ;D

Ay Whisky, scottish stuff m8
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: Carolus. on January 17, 2016, 08:20:37 pm
Quote from: RebelliouS on January 17, 2016, 07:26:56 pm
If pilot was taken into account Turkey would be higher not 11th , because we beat 11-10 but as rules were applied it was announced as draw Poland (there is a video of this match recorded by Melton) which had really strong players back then . Also we beat Sweden which was also had a golden squad lead by Svensson (there is a video of this match recorded by Melton). Then we also had an amazing comeback against NL which won that cup score was like 8-3 or so we made it 10-10 (wish there was a video of this epic match :( ) but after Sweden got utterly shrekt by NL 11-0 we were eliminated  :-\

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrwkbUZYQpc - Polska vs Turkey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VYo2bVyn64 - Sweden vs Turkey

A pilot is a pilot. Though some of the lower tier nations did well, its still a pilot. In the case of Sweden we have never done better or advanced as far in any of the earlier nations cup tournaments like we have in the two recent ones. The first editions of our team was never as strong as the current one and I dont believe there is anyone from the first two tournaments in the team today(?). Still we lack the ppl to put up a strong 10v10 team but its the same for all other nations except GB, France and Germany. Hence the dominance of said nations.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: RebelliouS on January 17, 2016, 08:21:55 pm
Quote from: Windflower on January 17, 2016, 07:35:43 pm
you forgot to post Turkey vs Canada

Dont have the recording of that unfortunately dunno who recorded it either , but that match was taken into account . Pilot was not taken into account 'cuz of that I found vids of it .
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: bobertini on January 17, 2016, 08:29:59 pm
Quote from: Carolusrex on January 17, 2016, 08:20:37 pm
Quote from: RebelliouS on January 17, 2016, 07:26:56 pm
If pilot was taken into account Turkey would be higher not 11th , because we beat 11-10 but as rules were applied it was announced as draw Poland (there is a video of this match recorded by Melton) which had really strong players back then . Also we beat Sweden which was also had a golden squad lead by Svensson (there is a video of this match recorded by Melton). Then we also had an amazing comeback against NL which won that cup score was like 8-3 or so we made it 10-10 (wish there was a video of this epic match :( ) but after Sweden got utterly shrekt by NL 11-0 we were eliminated  :-\

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrwkbUZYQpc - Polska vs Turkey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VYo2bVyn64 - Sweden vs Turkey

A pilot is a pilot. Though some of the lower tier nations did well, its still a pilot. In the case of Sweden we have never done better or advanced as far in any of the earlier nations cup tournaments like we have in the two recent ones. The first editions of our team was never as strong as the current one and I dont believe there is anyone from the first two tournaments in the team today(?). Still we lack the ppl to put up a strong 10v10 team but its the same for all other nations except GB, France and Germany. Hence the dominance of said nations.
sturk best captain eu
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: Skyfall on January 17, 2016, 09:03:51 pm
Pilot won't be taken into account sorry Rebellious. Maybe the second tournament, since Evan sent me some intresting informations, but I still need to think about it.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: Carolus. on January 17, 2016, 10:24:17 pm
Spoiler
Quote from: bobertini on January 17, 2016, 08:29:59 pm
Quote from: Carolusrex on January 17, 2016, 08:20:37 pm
Quote from: RebelliouS on January 17, 2016, 07:26:56 pm
If pilot was taken into account Turkey would be higher not 11th , because we beat 11-10 but as rules were applied it was announced as draw Poland (there is a video of this match recorded by Melton) which had really strong players back then . Also we beat Sweden which was also had a golden squad lead by Svensson (there is a video of this match recorded by Melton). Then we also had an amazing comeback against NL which won that cup score was like 8-3 or so we made it 10-10 (wish there was a video of this epic match :( ) but after Sweden got utterly shrekt by NL 11-0 we were eliminated  :-\

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrwkbUZYQpc - Polska vs Turkey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VYo2bVyn64 - Sweden vs Turkey

A pilot is a pilot. Though some of the lower tier nations did well, its still a pilot. In the case of Sweden we have never done better or advanced as far in any of the earlier nations cup tournaments like we have in the two recent ones. The first editions of our team was never as strong as the current one and I dont believe there is anyone from the first two tournaments in the team today(?). Still we lack the ppl to put up a strong 10v10 team but its the same for all other nations except GB, France and Germany. Hence the dominance of said nations.
sturk best captain eu
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Ofc, he's Swedish. Team is full of captains  8)
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: Evanovic on January 19, 2016, 09:34:24 pm
It's up to you since it's your ranking, but really if you include the Mini-NWWC in this ranking then you should have the NWEC "Pilot". It's described as a "Pilot" but it had plenty of teams in it and a really high level of competition, more so in my opinion than the Mini-NWWC. The real 'tester' happened before it in 2011, during Mount & Musket, the only reason it was called a "Pilot" was because Napoleonic Wars was a new game and it was the first time larger squads were being used. The tournament actually worked like any other NWEC or NWWC tournament.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: RebelliouS on January 21, 2016, 08:28:38 am
Quote from: Evanovic on January 19, 2016, 09:34:24 pm
It's up to you since it's your ranking, but really if you include the Mini-NWWC in this ranking then you should have the NWEC "Pilot". It's described as a "Pilot" but it had plenty of teams in it and a really high level of competition, more so in my opinion than the Mini-NWWC. The real 'tester' happened before it in 2011, during Mount & Musket, the only reason it was called a "Pilot" was because Napoleonic Wars was a new game and it was the first time larger squads were being used. The tournament actually worked like any other NWEC or NWWC tournament.

Yeah I totally agree , we had most of the european countries attending it .
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: Herishey on January 21, 2016, 09:11:39 am
Who won the first 2?
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: Carolus. on January 21, 2016, 09:28:48 am
Quote from: RebelliouS on January 21, 2016, 08:28:38 am
Quote from: Evanovic on January 19, 2016, 09:34:24 pm
It's up to you since it's your ranking, but really if you include the Mini-NWWC in this ranking then you should have the NWEC "Pilot". It's described as a "Pilot" but it had plenty of teams in it and a really high level of competition, more so in my opinion than the Mini-NWWC. The real 'tester' happened before it in 2011, during Mount & Musket, the only reason it was called a "Pilot" was because Napoleonic Wars was a new game and it was the first time larger squads were being used. The tournament actually worked like any other NWEC or NWWC tournament.

Yeah I totally agree , we had most of the european countries attending it .

I got mixed feelings about this. Having people attending the tournament back in 2011 really doesnt say anything about its level of competitiveness(is that even a word?) If you compare players today with players back then there's a very big difference skillwise. With that being said I think I see your point, all tournaments should count towards the ranking however I still think you're opinion about the m-nwwc is a bit too dismissive. Im just curious as too why you want to deminish the importance of it?

The 5v5 format sure doesn't make it less competitive, the fact it didnt have a groupstage didnt mean much in the end anyway except from saving us some time and effort and the players are more skilled today than they were back in 2011 also players not participating due whatever reasons is just part of life, ppl are busy with life, retire or move on. With that being said the m-nwwc(the most recent tournament) should, if anything, be more accurate and just as important than any of the old ones. Thoughts?

Quote from: Herishey on January 21, 2016, 09:11:39 am
Who won the first 2?

I believe that would be the UK and The Netherlands but Im not 100% sure. The memory is starting to fail this old man ;)
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: Gokiller on January 21, 2016, 11:11:23 am
The pilot and '1st' were won by the Netherlands. The UK won the first one after that if my memory serves me right.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: Herishey on January 21, 2016, 01:48:43 pm
I knew Netherlands won one, but didn't know which one it was.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: Gokiller on January 21, 2016, 02:24:20 pm
Well now you know they won two. :-*
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: Herishey on January 21, 2016, 02:34:30 pm
DutchCumbackDisYear?
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: Gokiller on January 21, 2016, 05:10:12 pm
Nope.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: Melton on January 21, 2016, 05:19:38 pm
Quote from: Herishey on January 21, 2016, 09:11:39 am
Who won the first 2?
Denmark and Denmark.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: DayBoul on January 21, 2016, 06:13:17 pm
Quote from: Herishey on January 21, 2016, 09:11:39 am
Who won the first 2?

New-Zealand and New-Zealand
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: Heist on January 28, 2016, 05:21:10 pm
Greece has 0... Atleast they have more points than they do money...
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: Kore on January 28, 2016, 05:37:12 pm
Quote from: Heist on January 28, 2016, 05:21:10 pm
Greece has 0... Atleast they have more points than they do money...

:D
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: McPero on January 28, 2016, 07:36:57 pm
Quote from: Kore on January 28, 2016, 05:37:12 pm
Quote from: Heist on January 28, 2016, 05:21:10 pm
Greece has 0... Atleast they have more points than they do money...

:D
They still have more money than USA.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: Earth Bby on January 28, 2016, 09:11:15 pm
Why even put Wales on here?
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: Skyfall on January 28, 2016, 09:45:49 pm
Quote from: Marks on January 28, 2016, 09:11:15 pm
Why even put Wales on here?

cuz they had played once
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: Caps on February 04, 2016, 12:32:10 pm
Past tournaments shouldnt be taken into account as much as a new one... Like newest tournament counts 1:1 one past that 1:2 then 1:3 and so on
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: Rhen on February 04, 2016, 01:44:42 pm
Norway. A total of 10 points. 8)
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: rikimaru114 on February 12, 2016, 05:25:57 pm
Quote from: Gokiller on January 21, 2016, 05:10:12 pm
Nope.

Says nope while he never played with this year dutch team D:
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: AeroNinja on February 12, 2016, 05:28:42 pm
If Hungary would have all the players online and still playing they would have a strong team also. :c
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: Sanitarium on February 15, 2016, 06:55:08 pm
Seeing Ukraine being on 6th spot while Turkey and Poland on 11 and 12 places made me cringe and laugh in the same time ;D
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: Norwegian13 on February 25, 2016, 10:39:16 am

Quote from: Rhen on February 04, 2016, 01:44:42 pm
Norway. A total of 10 points. 8)

We're just too good 8)
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: Carolus. on May 25, 2016, 02:46:00 pm
This needs an update bud :)
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: Tardet on May 25, 2016, 05:52:28 pm
Ye please, put Germany and Sweden on top!
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: Skyfall on May 25, 2016, 06:30:20 pm
Ich habe keine lust :(
maybe after my exams
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: Carolus. on June 01, 2016, 11:58:35 am
Quote from: Tardet on May 25, 2016, 05:52:28 pm
Ye please, put Germany and Sweden on top!

Not top mon ami but looking forward to bump down the kapsalon rangers from Holland one spot ;)
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: Carolus. on June 05, 2016, 08:09:00 am
Quote from: Lurvy on June 05, 2016, 12:20:25 am
America has already 2-0 EU though.

Then Santa Claus and the Easter bunny showed up at your birthday party, right?
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: Petl25 on June 05, 2016, 12:30:26 pm
After we (Czechoslovakians) gained the third place in NWWC 2016, we should be ranked higher now.  8)
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: Fwuffy on June 05, 2016, 12:40:34 pm
Quote from: Petl25 on June 05, 2016, 12:30:26 pm
After we (Czechoslovakians) gained the third place in NWWC 2016, we should be ranked higher now.  8)
First off we should have an entry as Czechoslovakia lol
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking
Post by: Skyfall on June 05, 2016, 03:19:19 pm
Quote from: Fwuffy on June 05, 2016, 12:40:34 pm
Quote from: Petl25 on June 05, 2016, 12:30:26 pm
After we (Czechoslovakians) gained the third place in NWWC 2016, we should be ranked higher now.  8)
First off we should have an entry as Czechoslovakia lol

Feel free to update it  8)
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking *outdated*
Post by: PrideofNi on June 05, 2016, 04:06:46 pm
Where is Ulster?
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking *outdated*
Post by: Phailur on June 05, 2016, 04:37:01 pm
Quote from: PrideofNi on June 05, 2016, 04:06:46 pm
Where is Ulster?
Controlled by the english kid
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking *outdated*
Post by: PrideofNi on June 05, 2016, 06:10:56 pm
All of Ireland's actual victories are Ulsters, pls update list
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking *outdated*
Post by: Nano on June 17, 2016, 04:54:12 am
I know this is old but you know
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gtIanVAbtNpKoX2M8nf_4_DUVyPCH0HnuZYLa68dvXE/edit#gid=0
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JzeutU8a36eezUlGdADQ9r0FqGsriop_pJgDlzXm2U8/edit#gid=0
They are only the groups however. They also are either missing data or there were a lot of drop-outs.
I know that the Netherlands won one of those two and UK won the other
UK was 2nd in one of them

Not sure about the rest.
Probably not enough data as mentioned.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking *outdated*
Post by: Carolus. on June 27, 2016, 10:00:15 am
bump
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking *outdated*
Post by: huanmpth on June 28, 2016, 02:47:17 pm
Iceland should be 1st.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking *outdated*
Post by: Carolus. on June 28, 2016, 06:19:51 pm
Quote from: huanmpth on June 28, 2016, 02:47:17 pm
Iceland should be 1st.

Ahahahaha #rekt
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking *outdated*
Post by: Louisss on June 28, 2016, 06:47:21 pm
Quote from: huanmpth on June 28, 2016, 02:47:17 pm
Iceland should be 1st.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking *outdated*
Post by: Skyfall on June 28, 2016, 08:07:00 pm
Brexit

Updated meme.0
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking *outdated*
Post by: Haze on June 28, 2016, 10:37:19 pm
Quote from: Skyfall on January 15, 2016, 04:54:46 pm
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Vive l'iceland
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking *outdated*
Post by: Carolus. on July 01, 2016, 01:57:04 pm
update?
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking *outdated*
Post by: McPero on July 14, 2016, 02:21:50 pm
Why are first tournaments not considered? Hekko's first two.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking *outdated*
Post by: Skyfall on July 14, 2016, 04:32:09 pm
Quote from: McPero on July 14, 2016, 02:21:50 pm
Why are first tournaments not considered? Hekko's first two.
Lack of informations and motivation
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking *outdated*
Post by: McPero on July 15, 2016, 09:17:26 am
Quote from: Skyfall on July 14, 2016, 04:32:09 pm
Quote from: McPero on July 14, 2016, 02:21:50 pm
Why are first tournaments not considered? Hekko's first two.
Lack of informations and motivation
There is enough info m8
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking *outdated*
Post by: Skyfall on July 15, 2016, 10:12:46 am
Quote from: McPero on July 15, 2016, 09:17:26 am
Quote from: Skyfall on July 14, 2016, 04:32:09 pm
Quote from: McPero on July 14, 2016, 02:21:50 pm
Why are first tournaments not considered? Hekko's first two.
Lack of informations and motivation
There is enough info m8

So go and make your fucking list
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking *outdated*
Post by: Furrnox on July 15, 2016, 10:31:28 am
FIFA Rating = Skyfall Rating
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking *outdated*
Post by: Carolus. on July 15, 2016, 03:12:41 pm
Quote from: Skyfall on July 15, 2016, 10:12:46 am
Quote from: McPero on July 15, 2016, 09:17:26 am
Quote from: Skyfall on July 14, 2016, 04:32:09 pm
Quote from: McPero on July 14, 2016, 02:21:50 pm
Why are first tournaments not considered? Hekko's first two.
Lack of informations and motivation
There is enough info m8

So go and make your fucking list
Title: Re: Napoleonic Wars European Ranking *outdated*
Post by: McPero on July 15, 2016, 03:48:00 pm
Quote from: Carolusrex on July 15, 2016, 03:12:41 pm
Quote from: Skyfall on July 15, 2016, 10:12:46 am
Quote from: McPero on July 15, 2016, 09:17:26 am
Quote from: Skyfall on July 14, 2016, 04:32:09 pm
Quote from: McPero on July 14, 2016, 02:21:50 pm
Why are first tournaments not considered? Hekko's first two.
Lack of informations and motivation
There is enough info m8

So go and make your fucking list
So just say you are lazy m8 no need for salt.


Carolusrex I'm warning you for the last time stop cyber-bullying me, thank you.