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In Development / Re: Pike & Shotte - English Civil War Mod

« on: August 05, 2015, 01:40:14 am »

  I assure you sir, having bought and painted many of these figures and reading about the armies of the era, they are pretty accurate. The thing is we do not know as much about the uniforms of the era, only a few illustrations and scant literary material. For example, Prince Rupert's Horse is the only cavalry regiment we know the tunic colour of (they ordered red cloth for uniforms), we assume the cavalry generally wore whatever they could find.
  As I pointed out earlier, uniforms would generally wear out after only one campaign and had to be constantly replaced, sometimes uniform colours would change so you could see a mixture of colours (I seem to remember a Parliamentarian regiment started the war in yellow but had to switch to grey).
  I think this mod is shaping up to be really good and very accurate. You can never get things 100% right because we just do not know for sure. It is about best represting history in a way that people who play the game will find enjoyable and challenging.
  If I may also add a postscript about the Covenanter's. It would seem they very rarely wore armour, although I did here mention that Parliament gave them some supplies including armour but in limited numbers.
  I advise everyone to see the osprey books, I have two (infantry and cavalry) but I cannot find them at the moment. And if artillery is ever done, here are some pictures of a cannon (took this back in 2009). This is a smaller field piece, there were all sorts of types but I believe this is a Minion (please correct me if I am wrong).


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In Development / Re: Pike & Shotte - English Civil War Mod

« on: August 04, 2015, 07:06:16 pm »

  They would certainly be an interesting addition. You would probably do best to do a general 'Earl of Monstrose's' forces option if you want to fit them all into the Royalist roster. He had the Irish Brigade brought over from the Thirty Years War as well as his rampaging Highlanders, who had a variety of weapons from claymores to firearms as seen in the painting. That said, it would be a bit odd to have a bunch of Highlanders roaming about England as Montrose never ventured beyond Scotland (Charles did have a Scottish Officer on his staff at Naseby though who swore at him and urged him not to go and fight himself), although I did read once he was planning to move south to draw Parliamentarian/Covenanter forces away from the King but Naseby put an end to that.
  I would probably wait though, you can always do a second patch expanding the war to the rest of the Three Kingdoms. Best to keep it focused on England for the moment (the Covenanter's fit in of course as they were at Marston Moor).

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In Development / Re: Pike & Shotte - English Civil War Mod

« on: August 04, 2015, 06:46:04 pm »

  No problem, I have a few 28mm figures myself but the battery of my camera needs charging, if I get a chance I will post some (have a few pictures of the King's Lifeguard of Foote and some of Lieutenant General William Baillie’s Covenanter Regiment). The art of warlord games is always good for reference:
http://www.warlordgames.com/the-art-of-warlord-english-civil-war/
(The Covenanter's in their grey uniforms are at the bottom)

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In Development / Re: Pike & Shotte - English Civil War Mod

« on: August 04, 2015, 06:29:07 pm »

  From what I have heard with the tartans (and painting 28mm figures of them) it was quite random. Some of them had them slung across the shoulder like a sash. The patterns varied of course, there were not really any set patterns of tartan in this period. The Highlands were generally loyal to the King whilst the Lowlands were more where the Covenanters recruited from meaning that it was Royalists that tended to wear tartan. This site has some good pictures of what the Royalist Scottish regiments may have looked like (apparently some were still using bows and arrows):
http://auldearn1645.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/farquharson-of-monaltries-regiment.html

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In Development / Re: Pike & Shotte - English Civil War Mod

« on: August 04, 2015, 05:42:01 pm »

  May I just add as well that this mod is looking really promising. It is good you are looking into the specific regiments that fought in the conflict and trying to get the right uniforms. It is a bit of a murky subject though, some regiments may be issued with one colour uniform one year, they would wear out, and a completely new uniform would be issued the next, with a mxituer of the two sometimes being quite common. Sashes are an issue as well, some Parliamentarian regiments didn't wear orange, Cromwell is seen in one painting wearing white. The Earl of Essex' army definitely wore orange though and they were the main field army Parliament had to offer.
  I am sure this has probably been answered but will the Covenanter's be a separate faction? Seeing as though they fought both the King and Parliament it would make sense. And are they in grey uniforms? Most Covenanter's wore grey uniforms with blue bonnets.
  With the fife and drum you might do well to get in contact with an English Civil War re-enactment regiment, they know all the necessary drum calls, and see if they can perhaps lend something to the musical side of things. I do Napoleonic re-enacting myself but some men in my regiment might know a few from the Sealed Knot.
  I am sure you have probably heard this tune but I think it would be very fitting for background music:

  It was composed after the First Civil War but it has been used in documentaries about the conflict. It will be good when this mod comes out, I have just finished studying the Civil War at University and have had a keen interest in it for years (my home town was the only town in East Anglia to actually side with the King, apparently you can still see a hole in the church tower where a cannonball went through).

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In Development / Re: Pike & Shotte - English Civil War Mod

« on: August 04, 2015, 05:13:07 pm »

  Those figures are from Bicorne Miniatures: http://www.bicorne.net/
  They do specific figures for the King's Lifeguard, I have linked the pictures below.


  What the cavalry wore is the least well known part of the armies of the English Civil War. Most looked very similar, buff being very common. It is known that prince Rupert's Horse most likely wore red.
  I have an old Osprey book on the subject if you are interested.