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Off Topic / Re: US Politics thread

« on: January 07, 2017, 05:21:10 am »

This video shows why I personally will never ever vote again.

ftfy

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Off Topic / Re: US Politics thread

« on: January 07, 2017, 02:22:47 am »

Anyways I do hope Trump understands the threat of the bear Vladimir Putin, it's pretty rare to have 4 intelligence heads this confident about Russian hacking

Pretty fucked that they'd push such an absurd claim through the most prestigious government organizations like that, and now people are relying solely on their faith in authority to believe this, and completely abandoning free thought in its entirety. It really shows just how far gone we are.

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Off Topic / Re: US Politics thread

« on: December 31, 2016, 01:29:25 am »

Surely he picked 'the best cabinet choices he could possibly make'. That's why he made a brain surgeon secretary for Housing and Urban Development. Everyone knows Ben Carson's experience regarding affordable housing and development.

I mean Obama's current head of DHS never had 0 experience with anything Homeland Security related and was a lawyer so...theres many appointees throughout many administrations who had 0 experience in the field they were chosen to lead. Regarding Ben Carson the fact he was also running for President also on top of being a smart ass mofo I think he will have no problem heading Housing and Urban Development...cant get much worse than the bozos running it now and the same can be said with the VA.

It can get much, much worse and the fact of the matter is that all of the people entering this administration have ties to the past one, and the ones before it for decades and even centuries. The president can't seriously challenge the power structure, he's just one person. We're talking about a complete monolith here, not just some empty institution that can be changed at the whim of a few people once they occupy their positions. Whatever happens in the next few years, there's a trajectory that we're following, and it's going to continue regardless of the puppet sitting in the oval office.

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Off Topic / Re: US Politics thread

« on: December 30, 2016, 10:21:35 pm »

Trump's goldman sachs picks are quite funny tbh. Is there anyone who still believes he's an outsider to the political establishment at all now? Literally the exact same people that the Clintons asaociate with.

Funny?No.

I can see why someone would think they are a complete opposite of what he promised when he said he would "drain the swamp" but I would disagree. Yes, he has the richest cabinet ever assembled but these wealthy successful individuals and bankers running his economy are not working for the banks anymore they are working on behalf of the United States government and I believe they will bring their deal making skills and overall money making attitude back to the USA again and make our economy great again. The thing is with Trump is that he wants to succeed and be the best President ever and he will do all he can to make that happen. He picked the best cabinet choices he could possibly make, also what did you expect him to hire guys off craigs list for the economy positions? lol.

I don't see how you can think they're not working for their respective private interests. How exactly do you think Trump makes these decisions? Because he liked the cut of his jib? It's about business and power, not just personal competance. Goldman sachs is one of the most powerful banking firms in the world and closely tied to the US government and economy. Yes, Trump wants to succeed, and in order to do that he knows he needs to cozy up with the people who can make or break him. If you think he got to this point on his own and legitimately opposed the big govt and business, well I think you're severely underestimating their power.

This establishment is what makes us who we are - there is no escaping it. Trump is president because he has played their game in many critical ways. And if he legitimately resists these people and structures, he will be punished like JFK. We'll see what he does, but so far all he has done is go back on his promises to appoint his own cabinet. Right now this is extremely similar to what Clinton's would have been.

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Off Topic / Re: US Politics thread

« on: December 24, 2016, 06:43:48 pm »

The point is that he represents the wall street lobby, which is what Trump claimed to oppose. And I doubt Sachs would choose that guy if they didn't think he would represent them properly.

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Off Topic / Re: US Politics thread

« on: December 24, 2016, 05:34:44 pm »

Trump's goldman sachs picks are quite funny tbh. Is there anyone who still believes he's an outsider to the political establishment at all now? Literally the exact same people that the Clintons asaociate with.

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Off Topic / Re: World Politics Thread - Round 2

« on: December 10, 2016, 07:53:44 am »

It's not contoversial at all that we are transitioning to world government. The globalists aren't just a fringe ideology, they're the most powerful people in the world right now. You can read Kissinger's words, George Bush sr's speech in 1990 where he literally said we're entering a new world order, the philosophies of the fouders of the league of nations, EU and UN, along with all the other leaders of the Europe since the enlightenment. The world has gone through many orders, and it's only natural that a new one will arise once the world crisis reaches its boiling point.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steady-state_economy
^they want this

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Off Topic / Re: US Politics thread

« on: December 07, 2016, 04:24:27 am »

This is what happens when you play too much Arma and counterstrike.

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Off Topic / Re: World Politics Thread - Round 2

« on: December 06, 2016, 05:38:35 am »

So you really think that Trump defeated globalism? A one world government has been a project centuries in the making, and we're already pretty much there and getting closer by the year. Just read the UN accords to see that it's not a secret or even controversial. All they need is the next big catastrophe and they can convince the public to accept the next step, which will probably be relatively soon at this rate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_government

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Off Topic / Re: World Politics Thread - Round 2

« on: December 06, 2016, 02:31:01 am »

>Fall of Globalism
Lol. They haven't even initiated the next step yet. NWO soon.

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Off Topic / Re: US Politics thread

« on: December 03, 2016, 02:13:06 am »

Would you rather we spend billions of dollars bombing them?

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Off Topic / Re: US Politics thread

« on: December 02, 2016, 06:35:26 pm »

Not all babies are born in hospitals, but besides that even if you do have some form of ID, millions of people are barred from voting for other reasons. Voter ID laws require you to get an ID like a drivers license, passport or state id. Also, even if someone has a birth certificate I'm not sure it counts everywhere, especially where you need to jump through hoops to register like the deep south.

^And wtf, it was already mentioned that a lot of people don't have legal jobs. Do you think there are drug dealer cards?

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Off Topic / Re: US Politics thread

« on: December 02, 2016, 01:31:46 am »

Most of the people who don't have IDs also don't have legal jobs, pay rent unofficially and buy cars with cash or through barter, or just stealing. But this is a relatively large percentage of the population, and also keep in mind that there are something like 2 million people in prison here who can't vote, and 5.8 million with past convictions (roughly 1% of the whole population put together). Oh yeah, and almost 5 million on probation and parole but that doesn't matter.

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Off Topic / Re: US Politics thread

« on: December 02, 2016, 01:02:27 am »

Dunno, maybe there are lots of people in America who have never traveled, never worked, never had to buy or rent a house, never had to learn to drive, never had to open a bank account, etc. Maybe they weren't even issued with a birth certificate when they were born. Who knows, maybe the Amish population of the USA is bigger than I thought?

Yes, that is how it is in America because unlike Europe we have a working class that makes up like 75% of the population and a government that doesn't give a shit about anything except profit. So there are third world conditions in a lot of the derp south and inner cities. But are you really refusing to believe there are this many people like that after all the zesty news coverage we've been getting?

Btw you don't need an ID for many of those things you listed.

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Off Topic / Re: US Politics thread

« on: December 02, 2016, 12:09:29 am »

The problem is that states have different standards for giving out IDs, so in many areas it is next to impossible to get one if you have no income, or you're a felon (nearly impossible to avoid in some places where people are picked up off the street and charged with drug possession as a standard procedure), or if you have no permanent home, job, former registration in the state system, or other things. It's meant to intentionally disenfranchise democratic voters in the south, but they do the same thing with Republican voters in swing states like PA and Ohio.

It should just tell you that our system is so convoluted and fucked that only a complete overhaul of abolition of the current method will make it fair. That is, if you accept that voting is fair, or that it's real at all. But let's leave that out and assume it is, you can't just have a nationwide voter ID requirement without also reforming the standards for giving out IDs in every state.