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Regiments / Re: 8th Brandenburg Infantry regiment [CIS/EU]
« on: September 25, 2021, 03:38:34 pm »
[VL] Return?

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Groupfighting Teams / Re: ENIGMA
« on: August 28, 2021, 12:24:58 pm »
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About us

      Coming soon     




Roster

Team Captain(s)
Captain:
DarkTemplar
Co-Captains:
Blacktham
Wolpi
               Members
Bunter Igel
Felix
Gerher
Nightwing
Moskito
MaNdar1nch1k
Phoen!x


Trials
Eastwind




                                       
Palmares

PUT TEXT HERE

                                       
Record

Victory
ENIGMA 15:06 CCCP
ENIGMA 15:14 ProudBoys
ENIGMA 15:14 Poosy
ENIGMA 15:11 NSS
ENIGMA 15:10 CCCP
ENIGMA 15:12 Poosy
ENIGMA 15:07 Fluss
ENIGMA 15:07 Gordon
ENIGMA 15:13 CCCP
ENIGMA 15:05 Virgins
ENIGMA 15:13 NSS
ENIGMA 20:12 CCCP
ENIGMA 15:05 CCCP
ENIGMA 15:10 Poosy
ENIGMA 15:08 BlackKnights
ENIGMA 15:08 Amaterasu
ENIGMA 15:09 CCCP
ENIGMA 15:11 Fluss
ENIGMA 15:07 CCCP
ENIGMA 15:11 Virgins
ENIGMA 15:02 Amigos
ENIGMA 15:07 NSS
ENIGMA 15:13 Virgins
ENIGMA 15:10 Fluss
ENIGMA 15:09 NPP
ENIGMA 15:11 CCCP
ENIGMA 15:10 BlackKnights
ENIGMA 15:14 Virgins
ENIGMA 15:08 NPP
ENIGMA 15:09 CCCP


Tournaments

EGS Season 2
Tournament 1
Spoiler
(5vs5, 4th Place)

ENIGMA 05:01 GVT
ENIGMA 04:05 Virgins
ENIGMA 05:00 13e Academy
ENIGMA 05:00 Elements

ENIGMA 07:02 NSS

ENIGMA 05:07 Poosy

ENIGMA 06:07 Proud Boys
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               Defeat
ENIGMA 11:15 Amaterasu
ENIGMA 11:15 Virgins
ENIGMA 10:15 CCCP
ENIGMA 14:15 Poosy
ENIGMA 09:15 Poosy
ENIGMA 12:15 Poosy
ENIGMA 12:15 Virgins
ENIGMA 12:15 Poosy
ENIGMA 14:15 CCCP
ENIGMA 05:15 Poosy
ENIGMA 13:15 BlackKnights
ENIGMA 11:15 Poosy
ENIGMA 11:15 Virgins
ENIGMA 07:15 ProudBoys
ENIGMA 14:15 Poosy















THREAD PROVIDED BY SKAENN'S WORKSHOP
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Shit, I got to learn German quickly

I thought you were going to play for the Soviet Union.

Germans > Soviet .. Simple equation.. ;D

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European Groupfighting Series / Re: EGS | Teams and Sign-Ups
« on: August 19, 2021, 08:58:21 pm »
Emergency Substitute Application

Name:MaNdar1nch1k
Steam Link: https://steamcommunity.com/id/MaNdar1nch1k/
GUID: 527035

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Groupfighting Teams / Re: ENIGMA
« on: August 19, 2021, 02:19:15 pm »
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About us

      Coming soon     




Roster

Team Captain(s)
Captain:
DarkTemplar
Co-Captains:
Blacktham
Wolpi
               Members
Bunter Igel
Felix
Gerher
Nightwing
Moskito
MaNdar1nch1k
Phoen!x


Trials
Eastwind




                                       
Palmares

PUT TEXT HERE

                                       
Record

Victory
ENIGMA 15:06 CCCP
ENIGMA 15:14 ProudBoys
ENIGMA 15:14 Poosy
ENIGMA 15:11 NSS
ENIGMA 15:10 CCCP
ENIGMA 15:12 Poosy
ENIGMA 15:07 Fluss
ENIGMA 15:07 Gordon
ENIGMA 15:13 CCCP
ENIGMA 15:05 Virgins
ENIGMA 15:13 NSS
ENIGMA 20:12 CCCP
ENIGMA 15:05 CCCP
ENIGMA 15:10 Poosy
ENIGMA 15:08 BlackKnights
ENIGMA 15:08 Amaterasu
ENIGMA 15:09 CCCP
ENIGMA 15:11 Fluss
ENIGMA 15:07 CCCP
ENIGMA 15:11 Virgins
ENIGMA 15:02 Amigos
ENIGMA 15:07 NSS
ENIGMA 15:13 Virgins
ENIGMA 15:10 Fluss
ENIGMA 15:09 NPP
ENIGMA 15:11 CCCP
ENIGMA 15:10 BlackKnights
ENIGMA 15:14 Virgins
ENIGMA 15:08 NPP
ENIGMA 15:09 CCCP


Tournaments

EGS Season 2
Tournament 1
Spoiler
(5vs5, 4th Place)

ENIGMA 05:01 GVT
ENIGMA 04:05 Virgins
ENIGMA 05:00 13e Academy
ENIGMA 05:00 Elements

ENIGMA 07:02 NSS

ENIGMA 05:07 Poosy

ENIGMA 06:07 Proud Boys
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               Defeat
ENIGMA 11:15 Amaterasu
ENIGMA 11:15 Virgins
ENIGMA 10:15 CCCP
ENIGMA 14:15 Poosy
ENIGMA 09:15 Poosy
ENIGMA 12:15 Poosy
ENIGMA 12:15 Virgins
ENIGMA 12:15 Poosy
ENIGMA 14:15 CCCP
ENIGMA 05:15 Poosy
ENIGMA 13:15 BlackKnights
ENIGMA 11:15 Poosy
ENIGMA 11:15 Virgins
ENIGMA 07:15 ProudBoys
ENIGMA 14:15 Poosy















THREAD PROVIDED BY SKAENN'S WORKSHOP
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Shit, I got to learn German quickly

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Groupfighting Teams / Re: Looking for a groupfighting team or members?
« on: August 13, 2021, 08:40:43 pm »
I have once more decided to grace this thread with my presence. Please give me a reason not to be here.

https://steamcommunity.com/id/55thfaggotstreet

x2

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Groupfighting Teams / Re: Proud Boys
« on: June 29, 2021, 05:41:54 pm »

Oo.. I see how it is..

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Groupfighting Teams / Re: Proud Boys
« on: June 24, 2021, 10:38:19 pm »
Im gone for 2 nights and this happens, at least i see twister, desant and mandarin carrying again !

Shit happens mate  ;D

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Groupfighting Teams / Re: Lusitanos Groupfighting Team
« on: April 23, 2021, 11:25:38 pm »
Thats it, I am joining a second gf team too

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Groupfighting Teams / Re: Constellis Groupfighting team
« on: April 22, 2021, 11:08:13 pm »
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Tournament


European 5v5 Tournament IV

Placement


6th Place


Already told R1bazz that it was wrong, but I'm glad people have to waste their time on shit like this.  ;D
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He has nothing better to do  ;D

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Because all those people appear in more than one era. Longevity was taken into account as well as other factors (it says at the bottom of the thread).

 :)
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Not sure what you are trying to say there  :P

Thing is I don't know why you're using me as a comparison when even though I wasn't as active I used to be back in the days, I still won tournaments here and there (RGL with 85e, NWWC in 2017). I'm sure you would have better understood my case if you did bother to check the past tournaments results in 2020-21 beforehand.

He is using you as a comparison because you both are in top 10 in one era only. Pretty self-explanatory if you ask me.
Yeah that side makes sense but the eras were only used in relation to the all time in a few ways. E.g. if you were top 10 in 2 eras you instantly go to tier 1, if you were top 10 in one era you're instantly into tier 4 or above, etc (this excludes the early eras in some cases if those players were not active after).
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Just to point out some eras are longer than others, I.e. if there was an era for 2015 and 2016, I probs would of made it to top 10 in both era then somehow that would automatically make me tier 1. That does not seem right to me. Doing it by year would of been more consistent and fair.

The fact you took activity into consideration makes things very debatable and very hard to judge. For example, a player could come to NW scene, and play competitively for 6-12 month and absolutely dominate the NW scene by winning everything. This player could be the best player to ever play NW but then because he/she decides to quit, after a short period of time for whatever reason, they do not deserve a high tier? In that case, the tiers do not truly represent players skill, does it? Now on the contradictory side, I do see your point, as players activity duration demonstrates for how long and well a player can upkeep their skill which is a fair point however if you refer back to the example I mentioned few sentences back, if a player leaves NW when they are playing well, then who are you/we to change them for how long they would have upkept being in the top 10. This has to be judged based on their prime.

You say all of this is based on facts... but Axiom was not around in 2015-2016... So I am very confused as to why he is on top 30 even. It makes sense to follow a list that was made back in 2015 by Haze, Lebrave and about 7 other players because it was done based on facts back then....  P.S Axiom you are a legend so nothing personal here.

I know it may look like I am moaning about being in tier 3 and not tier 2 and in all honesty there is no way to please everyone with their score (unless we give everyone tier 1 but even then people would probs still complain xD). I just dont agree with methodology used. There is not a lot of consistency here. As I said before, solely based on the front page, I, Nosswill and Clash appeared only once in Era's and therefore I have the same right to claim tier 2 as they do. Now you did defend it by saying they were in top 40 in other era's but solely based on the front page.. there is no top 40... so that defeats the point you made.

Don't take any of this as an attack on your Herishey, because what you have done here is amazing. This probs took you and others many weeks and hours to do.
If you want a list without any subjective opinion from other players and unbiased stats, you should probably go to the Historia Continuum thread made by Tardet and Tiberias. But taken into account how much work and how many people worked on Gibbys and Herisheys list, it is safe to say that there are some minor things to discuss about, but all in all it represents the overall competetive state of NW quite well.
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I agree with you Nosswill

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The reason why Nosswill and Clash are in a higher tier kinda makes sense so I don't understand the confusion.
Whilst Nosswill and Clash might have the same type of era rating as you had (top 10 in one era), they kept playing and picked up some medals here and there afterwards as well. They might not have been considered top 30 players during the time after their peak, even though that is always highly subjective, but they continued playing and therefore kept popping up in the tournament archive of Tardet and Tiberias after their "peak era". This archive is what was mostly used for this list as seen here:
Resources
The primary resource for this list is Tardet and Tiberias' tournament archive, which we are very grateful for being given access to.

It thus makes sense that they will have a higher rating. Where they had a peak where they reached top 10 in an era, and kept playing and thus kept appearing in tournaments. You reached top 10 in an era and stopped playing. You argue "how can you say that I wouldn't have kept playing at this high level", but at the same time I could argue "how are these list makers going to be able to evaluate your skill through periods where you didn't play". You can hardly expect them to pretend like you would've kept up the same level as you had back then when you weren't around to show it.
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I never said "how can you say that I wouldn't have kept playing at this high level", it was just an example. My point was not to evaluate skill through periods where a player did not play. As it is an unknown how they would of performed if they decided to stay or could stay.

In terms of tourneys won, I suppose that's also not the best way of recording individual skill. So for example, if you put any tier 1 player in a shit team (aka they play with their friends), they will never win anything because 1 player cannot carry the whole team therefore does that make tier 1 player a bad player because they did not win anything? Saying all this, tourneys won is the only way of judging an individuals skill I suppose... I personally cannot think of another way of recording someone skills apart from their tourney achievement...

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To be fair to Manda he did play the occasionally tournament for TBE even in 2017/2018 and now he is playing again however on the contrary he was never regarded as a top 20 player during those times.

I would say for Tier 2 you have to have to have a decent amount of tournament wins across a couple of different years, all-time is always going to be biased towards longevity not raw skill or talent as there is no point comparing that across eras (later will always be better).
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I agree with everything you said there Golden. but apparently, I do not need to be top 20 to be in tier 2... You have to be top 40 according to Herishey's comment earlier.  I was even in GB team in 2018 (even though I left the game again as soon as I got into the team (My Bad)) .

In regards to longevity then the list is not "All Time Player Ranking" it is more like "All Time Tourney Winners" as it simply demonstrates how many tourney they have won throughout the duration of their time on NW.  As you rightly said, later era's will always be better than the older ones due to them bring new styles to the game.
Dont cry mandarin, ill teach u some stuff tonight, dw soon ull reach top agin !
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me no want top plus you noob.

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Because all those people appear in more than one era. Longevity was taken into account as well as other factors (it says at the bottom of the thread).

 :)
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Not sure what you are trying to say there  :P

Thing is I don't know why you're using me as a comparison when even though I wasn't as active I used to be back in the days, I still won tournaments here and there (RGL with 85e, NWWC in 2017). I'm sure you would have better understood my case if you did bother to check the past tournaments results in 2020-21 beforehand.

He is using you as a comparison because you both are in top 10 in one era only. Pretty self-explanatory if you ask me.
Yeah that side makes sense but the eras were only used in relation to the all time in a few ways. E.g. if you were top 10 in 2 eras you instantly go to tier 1, if you were top 10 in one era you're instantly into tier 4 or above, etc (this excludes the early eras in some cases if those players were not active after).
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Just to point out some eras are longer than others, I.e. if there was an era for 2015 and 2016, I probs would of made it to top 10 in both era then somehow that would automatically make me tier 1. That does not seem right to me. Doing it by year would of been more consistent and fair.

The fact you took activity into consideration makes things very debatable and very hard to judge. For example, a player could come to NW scene, and play competitively for 6-12 month and absolutely dominate the NW scene by winning everything. This player could be the best player to ever play NW but then because he/she decides to quit, after a short period of time for whatever reason, they do not deserve a high tier? In that case, the tiers do not truly represent players skill, does it? Now on the contradictory side, I do see your point, as players activity duration demonstrates for how long and well a player can upkeep their skill which is a fair point however if you refer back to the example I mentioned few sentences back, if a player leaves NW when they are playing well, then who are you/we to change them for how long they would have upkept being in the top 10. This has to be judged based on their prime.

You say all of this is based on facts... but Axiom was not around in 2015-2016... So I am very confused as to why he is on top 30 even. It makes sense to follow a list that was made back in 2015 by Haze, Lebrave and about 7 other players because it was done based on facts back then....  P.S Axiom you are a legend so nothing personal here.

I know it may look like I am moaning about being in tier 3 and not tier 2 and in all honesty there is no way to please everyone with their score (unless we give everyone tier 1 but even then people would probs still complain xD). I just dont agree with methodology used. There is not a lot of consistency here. As I said before, solely based on the front page, I, Nosswill and Clash appeared only once in Era's and therefore I have the same right to claim tier 2 as they do. Now you did defend it by saying they were in top 40 in other era's but solely based on the front page.. there is no top 40... so that defeats the point you made.

Don't take any of this as an attack on your Herishey, because what you have done here is amazing. This probs took you and others many weeks and hours to do.
If you want a list without any subjective opinion from other players and unbiased stats, you should probably go to the Historia Continuum thread made by Tardet and Tiberias. But taken into account how much work and how many people worked on Gibbys and Herisheys list, it is safe to say that there are some minor things to discuss about, but all in all it represents the overall competetive state of NW quite well.
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I agree with you Nosswill

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The reason why Nosswill and Clash are in a higher tier kinda makes sense so I don't understand the confusion.
Whilst Nosswill and Clash might have the same type of era rating as you had (top 10 in one era), they kept playing and picked up some medals here and there afterwards as well. They might not have been considered top 30 players during the time after their peak, even though that is always highly subjective, but they continued playing and therefore kept popping up in the tournament archive of Tardet and Tiberias after their "peak era". This archive is what was mostly used for this list as seen here:
Resources
The primary resource for this list is Tardet and Tiberias' tournament archive, which we are very grateful for being given access to.

It thus makes sense that they will have a higher rating. Where they had a peak where they reached top 10 in an era, and kept playing and thus kept appearing in tournaments. You reached top 10 in an era and stopped playing. You argue "how can you say that I wouldn't have kept playing at this high level", but at the same time I could argue "how are these list makers going to be able to evaluate your skill through periods where you didn't play". You can hardly expect them to pretend like you would've kept up the same level as you had back then when you weren't around to show it.
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I never said "how can you say that I wouldn't have kept playing at this high level", it was just an example. My point was not to evaluate skill through periods where a player did not play. As it is an unknown how they would of performed if they decided to stay or could stay.

In terms of tourneys won, I suppose that's also not the best way of recording individual skill. So for example, if you put any tier 1 player in a shit team (aka they play with their friends), they will never win anything because 1 player cannot carry the whole team therefore does that make tier 1 player a bad player because they did not win anything? Saying all this, tourneys won is the only way of judging an individuals skill I suppose... I personally cannot think of another way of recording someone skills apart from their tourney achievement...

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To be fair to Manda he did play the occasionally tournament for TBE even in 2017/2018 and now he is playing again however on the contrary he was never regarded as a top 20 player during those times.

I would say for Tier 2 you have to have to have a decent amount of tournament wins across a couple of different years, all-time is always going to be biased towards longevity not raw skill or talent as there is no point comparing that across eras (later will always be better).
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I agree with everything you said there Golden. but apparently, I do not need to be top 20 to be in tier 2... You have to be top 40 according to Herishey's comment earlier.  I was even in GB team in 2018 (even though I left the game again as soon as I got into the team (My Bad)) .

In regards to longevity then the list is not "All Time Player Ranking" it is more like "All Time Tourney Winners" as it simply demonstrates how many tourney they have won throughout the duration of their time on NW.  As you rightly said, later era's will always be better than the older ones due to them bring new styles to the game.

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Because all those people appear in more than one era. Longevity was taken into account as well as other factors (it says at the bottom of the thread).

 :)
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Not sure what you are trying to say there  :P

Thing is I don't know why you're using me as a comparison when even though I wasn't as active I used to be back in the days, I still won tournaments here and there (RGL with 85e, NWWC in 2017). I'm sure you would have better understood my case if you did bother to check the past tournaments results in 2020-21 beforehand.

He is using you as a comparison because you both are in top 10 in one era only. Pretty self-explanatory if you ask me.
Yeah that side makes sense but the eras were only used in relation to the all time in a few ways. E.g. if you were top 10 in 2 eras you instantly go to tier 1, if you were top 10 in one era you're instantly into tier 4 or above, etc (this excludes the early eras in some cases if those players were not active after).
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Just to point out some eras are longer than others, I.e. if there was an era for 2015 and 2016, I probs would of made it to top 10 in both era then somehow that would automatically make me tier 1. That does not seem right to me. Doing it by year would of been more consistent and fair.

The fact you took activity into consideration makes things very debatable and very hard to judge. For example, a player could come to NW scene, and play competitively for 6-12 month and absolutely dominate the NW scene by winning everything. This player could be the best player to ever play NW but then because he/she decides to quit, after a short period of time for whatever reason, they do not deserve a high tier? In that case, the tiers do not truly represent players skill, does it? Now on the contradictory side, I do see your point, as players activity duration demonstrates for how long and well a player can upkeep their skill which is a fair point however if you refer back to the example I mentioned few sentences back, if a player leaves NW when they are playing well, then who are you/we to change them for how long they would have upkept being in the top 10. This has to be judged based on their prime.

You say all of this is based on facts... but Axiom was not around in 2015-2016... So I am very confused as to why he is on top 30 even. It makes sense to follow a list that was made back in 2015 by Haze, Lebrave and about 7 other players because it was done based on facts back then....  P.S Axiom you are a legend so nothing personal here.

I know it may look like I am moaning about being in tier 3 and not tier 2 and in all honesty there is no way to please everyone with their score (unless we give everyone tier 1 but even then people would probs still complain xD). I just dont agree with methodology used. There is not a lot of consistency here. As I said before, solely based on the front page, I, Nosswill and Clash appeared only once in Era's and therefore I have the same right to claim tier 2 as they do. Now you did defend it by saying they were in top 40 in other era's but solely based on the front page.. there is no top 40... so that defeats the point you made.

Don't take any of this as an attack on your Herishey, because what you have done here is amazing. This probs took you and others many weeks and hours to do.

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Because all those people appear in more than one era. Longevity was taken into account as well as other factors (it says at the bottom of the thread).

 :)
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Not sure what you are trying to say there  :P
I believe he meant although he isn't in the top 30 era's he's been generally active in the comp scene longer than you have, as has Nosswill.

The French era goes from late 2016 to early 2018. Which means the majority of that period you agree you weren't a top player in.

It does not quite make sense. I am trying to understand the methodology here, and its nothing personal to ClaSh or Nosswill. I think they are great players and to be clear, do not think they deserve a lower tier. 

The thing I am trying to understand is... I am in tier 3 because I appeared in top 30 only once and lucky to even get a tier 3 because of it according to you, yet, ClaSh and Nosswill have also only appeared in Era section once but they deserve tier 2 because they have been active for longer even though they were not in the top 30? This is not necessarily true, I played prior to 2015 (in teams such as VL, Fruitninja and more), I just simply was not in top 30 like Nosswill and Clash were in the years I was top...

I think what Herishey is trying to say is you're shit mate,

couldn't even get into UA smhhhhh
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Its cus I have no nationality...
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The list is not based on the era's purely, as I said before the entire criteria is included on the thread. But longevity was taken into account and there wasn't a long period where you were a 'top' player or like in Clash's case where he has become active again now and its back into the 'top 40' somewhere where as you are not. All of these things have to be taken into account.

I am sure it was...

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At the end of "The Twin Titan" Era, players rankings were published on another forum. Unfortunately, Bob (forum owner) has deleted/amended the forum but the original rankings, can be found on the link below. P.S pretty sure Axiom was not even round that year hence why he was not included in the list below. I'll leave this here and go back to my cave before things EXPLODE.

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=28402.1020
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if ur talking about the salakien post, that was just his opinion, not a ranking
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Salakien copied the ratings and then added his opinion in brackets.

Anyway, I've done my job, sparked this community, now I am out before I get bullied and become sad
no i vividly remember you being top rated and me 2nd or 3rd with drake
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Yeah I was top 1 for that year but then Extazz and HaZe complained so then I got moved down haha. Regardless, I was higher than 8th for that year... I suppose it just shows how well things have been taken into account...

 
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All of these things have to be taken into account.
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You realise that the 1-10 in the era are not in order........ same for 11-20, 21-30. They are just in alphabetical order because it's impossible to say that X player is better than Y player when their skill or impact at a time is so close.

Fairs, but Axiom was not even around, you were not top 10, and Tiberias well.. Ill leave the link below..

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=28402.1395

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Because all those people appear in more than one era. Longevity was taken into account as well as other factors (it says at the bottom of the thread).

 :)
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Not sure what you are trying to say there  :P
I believe he meant although he isn't in the top 30 era's he's been generally active in the comp scene longer than you have, as has Nosswill.

The French era goes from late 2016 to early 2018. Which means the majority of that period you agree you weren't a top player in.

It does not quite make sense. I am trying to understand the methodology here, and its nothing personal to ClaSh or Nosswill. I think they are great players and to be clear, do not think they deserve a lower tier. 

The thing I am trying to understand is... I am in tier 3 because I appeared in top 30 only once and lucky to even get a tier 3 because of it according to you, yet, ClaSh and Nosswill have also only appeared in Era section once but they deserve tier 2 because they have been active for longer even though they were not in the top 30? This is not necessarily true, I played prior to 2015 (in teams such as VL, Fruitninja and more), I just simply was not in top 30 like Nosswill and Clash were in the years I was top...

I think what Herishey is trying to say is you're shit mate,

couldn't even get into UA smhhhhh
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Its cus I have no nationality...
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The list is not based on the era's purely, as I said before the entire criteria is included on the thread. But longevity was taken into account and there wasn't a long period where you were a 'top' player or like in Clash's case where he has become active again now and its back into the 'top 40' somewhere where as you are not. All of these things have to be taken into account.

I am sure it was...

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At the end of "The Twin Titan" Era, players rankings were published on another forum. Unfortunately, Bob (forum owner) has deleted/amended the forum but the original rankings, can be found on the link below. P.S pretty sure Axiom was not even round that year hence why he was not included in the list below. I'll leave this here and go back to my cave before things EXPLODE.

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=28402.1020
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if ur talking about the salakien post, that was just his opinion, not a ranking
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Salakien copied the ratings and then added his opinion in brackets.

Anyway, I've done my job, sparked this community, now I am out before I get bullied and become sad
no i vividly remember you being top rated and me 2nd or 3rd with drake
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Yeah I was top 1 for that year but then Extazz and HaZe complained so then I got moved down haha. Regardless, I was higher than 8th for that year... I suppose it just shows how well things have been taken into account...

 
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All of these things have to be taken into account.
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