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[Sadman]

I've said this to voluble over steam aswell, but extazz your playstyle in groupfights is so passive that you become a liability for your team. In the last two tournaments and in the practice gf with NL I played directly opposite of you, or the other mid player (depending on if someone flankswapped). In all 3 of these groupfights you were so passive that you gave me the complete freedom to get picks on you and your teammates. The only way you would kill me is if I threw a straight stab at you. Now let's compare this with the groupfight against chimpz. I played against vol, golden cr3a and fotin in mid. And they had me locked down for the whole groupfight, I couldn't get any picks anywhere, and was utterly useless in middle. Their playstyle didnt allow me any space in middle. But yours gave me all the freedom I wanted.

You can spout all your bullshit about how I'm a new gen and about how many tournaments you've won. But it doesn't matter in the end. You lebrave and haze are past your prime.

Not against you Rikkert but why do you care about Extazz's playstyle ? What I mean is that if he's too passive It's better for you since you can get picks on the flanks.

The debate concerning the french players cancerous playstyles is on since at least 2015, and it'll always be an eternal subject of discussions. But what I mean is that we still use, nowadays, the tactics that Haze developped in the past. I have the example of my team, the ChimpZ, where we are almost doing the same things like in FrenchTouch 3 years ago. So, no, Extazz, Lebrave and Haze are not rusty.

I said it because those 3 are acting like they're fucking gods gift to earth.

And because I love FSE drama

Watch your language new gen!!!! HaZe and ExtaZz invented showtime and solidity tactics, chambers, 2v1, flagpole, groupfighting, napoleonic wars and low ping meta!!!!!!!!!!! uR jUsT jEaLoUs As PeR uSuAl!!1!1!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bagins]

Their strategies might work when they are all playing with it together win the original team, but it seems that they have not learnt to play outside of that and are riding off of their past in that sense.

[Voluble123]

@Rikkert : I'd take lebrave on my team anyday over 99% of players in that game. Opinions are opinions, Amical match are amical. Win are facts.

Yeah at the end of the day you have only just come back and you are simply saying you would take LeBrave based on your opinion on him which dates back to last years NWWC and the 5-0 lost to ChimpZ. In that match LeBrave went 1-7 and lost to Hokej in mid and inevitably FrenchTouch disbanded soon after! Seriously though, I can see how LeBad is good and if he has the right teammate who understands him it can be good for the team, but those people are too rare and he gets exposed alot and picked and it is as simple as that for the past year or so.

ExtaZz is another case of being overrated, when he is in a top team who are getting alot of picks on the flanks, he just swoops in and is very fucking good in open melee and he cleans up and confirms kills. Don't get me wrong, it is a skill in itself and its good to confirm kills and it minimizes the risk of losing outnumbering situations and I praise him for that. But in terms of general positioning and reaction time and decision making, he is not keeping up with the times and he leaves so many gaps due to his natural instincts to back off and outrange his opponent directly opposite him. This may work if someone was dumb enough to try outrange him time and time again, but people are smart enough to know his main strength and avoid doing that, he lacks the ability to be aggresive and hold a line as he natural backs off to maintain range to bait people in to get his indvidual outrange kill. But as Rikkert has mentioned, ExTaZz backs off too much and leaves room for side stabs OR to gain a foothold of middle and force the team back, this is replicated in every Gf and every scenario as its his default instinct and his biggest strength (backing off to outrange) which people manipulate and man handle him.

So finally, If LeBrave and others believe they should be way higher and believe ExtaZz should be placed top of the list, just remember the list is based from RECENT TOURNAMENTS, this means any fucking persons opinion or amical matches or wins are facts BULLSHIT means nothing as it was YEARS AGO and not in the past month or so tournaments. Every player has good and bad spells and ExTaZz is in one at the moment No one can say he is top 1 based on performances in 4v4, 5v5, 5v5PTK, 6v6, 7v7. Don't give a fuck about bad english as I don't stop for longer than 2 seconds to think about what im saying k thxs brb

[LeBrave]

"Duels means nothing"
Yeah your passive "support" playstyle in GF to hide your lack of skill, we see you.

You probably didnt understand meaning of duels.Duels are just about blocking,patience,more blocking and patience and more blocking and patience.Chambers and kicks are just raspberries on top of cake

just say dueling is game of patience lmao 

Exactly patience and blocking skills.Thats all

If it's that simple, why you didn't won any duel tournament? Just wondering

And why you didnt win any?Wtf is that question.You know what happened?In first tournament i was winning 4-2 against Exoticfail in semifinal but my mom shut down my computer and i lost 5-0.You can find that brackets.Second tournament i was second after Extazz and third they kicked me from tournament with Ledger.Try to use your brain bro first.A i was too second in sword tournament then shut up 

Come on hokej, you've created the most boring, tragic, and crazyest duel meta in that game of all the players that played, and our duel meta still reigned supreme. Where is your 1v1 ? I often say if we we'rent there, you'd have 6 1v1 titles by now hokej but you have 0. Look back in 2016.
Shame hokej. Remember your losses and don't talk about that anymore.

The way you played has not been rewarded, look back with maximou in sword, still has not been rewarded, it doesn't work against accordingly skilled dueler, especially if you let the other guy which worked his offensives skill set up his attempts and he can last a lot of time like that.

Ledger, its true that blocking is too overpowered (even on native), blocking is unbeatable, but your statement on duel still is false to me. Duel can be actually very tense and enjoyable. Hokej has been beaten, it hasn't take 30 minutes, but it need very high proficiency in chamber, kicking, swapstab timing aswell as endurance, in short, he can't absolutly avoid every aspect of a duel.
When he stab he takes a risk, when he moves he takes a risk, if he don't do anything, he is also taking a risk finally.


@Rikkert : I'd take lebrave on my team anyday over 99% of players in that game. Opinions are opinions, Amical match are amical. Win are facts.

But would you take him because he is your friend and you like him or would you take him because he is genuinly good? In our practice nwwc match you saw Melsyo and me just went for LeBrave all the time and that was usually our pick. It is admireable when you defend your friend but you must also face the fact that he was out of position all the time and not as good in groupfights as in duels.

He take me because i'm her friend and i play with drake since 2013 but not only cuz we are friend but cuz i'm à genious player and one of the most skilled eu and one of the best Dueler of all time and not only since 2015 but since 2012 so Heinrich u can trashtalk but we both know you are a little Dick when you want pour ft7 and its same with all the players show me your real skill  jt i think its rly poor

Was on m'y Phone with french corrector, pretty hard

[Tardet]

LeBrave is not half as good as he thinks he is yet he is genuinely twice better than what people think he is.

[Voluble123]

LeBrave is not half as good as he thinks he is yet he is genuinely twice better than what people think he is when he is with a teammate who understands him and assists him.

I AGREE

[Rikkert]

He take me because i'm her friend and i play with drake since 2013 but not only cuz we are friend but cuz i'm à genious player and one of the most skilled eu and one of the best Dueler of all time and not only since 2015 but since 2012 so Heinrich u can trashtalk but we both know you are a little Dick when you want pour ft7 and its same with all the players show me your real skill  jt i think its rly poor

I said it because those 3 are acting like they're fucking gods gift to earth.

[Eamon]

I've said this to voluble over steam aswell, but extazz your playstyle in groupfights is so passive that you become a liability for your team. In the last two tournaments and in the practice gf with NL I played directly opposite of you, or the other mid player (depending on if someone flankswapped). In all 3 of these groupfights you were so passive that you gave me the complete freedom to get picks on you and your teammates. The only way you would kill me is if I threw a straight stab at you. Now let's compare this with the groupfight against chimpz. I played against vol, golden cr3a and fotin in mid. And they had me locked down for the whole groupfight, I couldn't get any picks anywhere, and was utterly useless in middle. Their playstyle didnt allow me any space in middle. But yours gave me all the freedom I wanted.

You can spout all your bullshit about how I'm a new gen and about how many tournaments you've won. But it doesn't matter in the end. You lebrave and haze are past your prime.

Not against you Rikkert but why do you care about Extazz's playstyle ? What I mean is that if he's too passive It's better for you since you can get picks on the flanks.

The debate concerning the french players cancerous playstyles is on since at least 2015, and it'll always be an eternal subject of discussions. But what I mean is that we still use, nowadays, the tactics that Haze developped in the past. I have the example of my team, the ChimpZ, where we are almost doing the same things like in FrenchTouch 3 years ago. So, no, Extazz, Lebrave and Haze are not rusty.

I said it because those 3 are acting like they're fucking gods gift to earth.

And because I love FSE drama

Drake is so far up his own arse whilst being inside his own room on the computer that he hasn't seen actually seen daylight.

[Radulf]

He take me because i'm her friend and i play with drake since 2013 but not only cuz we are friend but cuz i'm à genious player and one of the most skilled eu and one of the best Dueler of all time and not only since 2015 but since 2012 so Heinrich u can trashtalk but we both know you are a little Dick when you want pour ft7 and its same with all the players show me your real skill  jt i think its rly poor

I said it because those 3 are acting like they're fucking gods gift to earth.

He's probably laughing behind his screen to see that people are really taking what he says seriously

Dont feed LeBrave guys

[Nock]

more drama please

[Heinrich Adelmann]

"Duels means nothing"
Yeah your passive "support" playstyle in GF to hide your lack of skill, we see you.

You probably didnt understand meaning of duels.Duels are just about blocking,patience,more blocking and patience and more blocking and patience.Chambers and kicks are just raspberries on top of cake

just say dueling is game of patience lmao 

Exactly patience and blocking skills.Thats all

If it's that simple, why you didn't won any duel tournament? Just wondering

And why you didnt win any?Wtf is that question.You know what happened?In first tournament i was winning 4-2 against Exoticfail in semifinal but my mom shut down my computer and i lost 5-0.You can find that brackets.Second tournament i was second after Extazz and third they kicked me from tournament with Ledger.Try to use your brain bro first.A i was too second in sword tournament then shut up 

Come on hokej, you've created the most boring, tragic, and crazyest duel meta in that game of all the players that played, and our duel meta still reigned supreme. Where is your 1v1 ? I often say if we we'rent there, you'd have 6 1v1 titles by now hokej but you have 0. Look back in 2016.
Shame hokej. Remember your losses and don't talk about that anymore.

The way you played has not been rewarded, look back with maximou in sword, still has not been rewarded, it doesn't work against accordingly skilled dueler, especially if you let the other guy which worked his offensives skill set up his attempts and he can last a lot of time like that.

Ledger, its true that blocking is too overpowered (even on native), blocking is unbeatable, but your statement on duel still is false to me. Duel can be actually very tense and enjoyable. Hokej has been beaten, it hasn't take 30 minutes, but it need very high proficiency in chamber, kicking, swapstab timing aswell as endurance, in short, he can't absolutly avoid every aspect of a duel.
When he stab he takes a risk, when he moves he takes a risk, if he don't do anything, he is also taking a risk finally.


@Rikkert : I'd take lebrave on my team anyday over 99% of players in that game. Opinions are opinions, Amical match are amical. Win are facts.

But would you take him because he is your friend and you like him or would you take him because he is genuinly good? In our practice nwwc match you saw Melsyo and me just went for LeBrave all the time and that was usually our pick. It is admireable when you defend your friend but you must also face the fact that he was out of position all the time and not as good in groupfights as in duels.

He take me because i'm her friend and i play with drake since 2013 but not only cuz we are friend but cuz i'm à genious player and one of the most skilled eu and one of the best Dueler of all time and not only since 2015 but since 2012 so Heinrich u can trashtalk but we both know you are a little Dick when you want pour ft7 and its same with all the players show me your real skill  jt i think its rly poor

Was on m'y Phone with french corrector, pretty hard

We are talking about groupfighting and you being out of position all the time? Yeh you could defenitely beat me in a ft7 but I'm not talking about duels am I? Just face the fact that you're good at duels but not at groupfighting

[nIvan]

Rikkert is probably laughing behind his screen looking at people taking what he says seriously.

Don’t feed Rikkert guys

[Nero_]

stokedale

[Knightmare]

all of u die =)

[Nock]

all of u die =)