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Re: North American Gold 5v5 League [Season 3][Semi-Finals]
« Reply #1545 on: June 23, 2020, 04:26:43 pm »
don’t really think anyone cheats anymore. Those of us who have spread out hours over the years don’t realize how much the grinders on this game play. I have around 1700 ish hours over 5 years and there’s ppl with 3k in 3 years. I think gavin has a shit ton too

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Re: North American Gold 5v5 League [Season 3][Semi-Finals]
« Reply #1546 on: June 23, 2020, 04:31:57 pm »
don’t really think anyone cheats anymore. Those of us who have spread out hours over the years don’t realize how much the grinders on this game play. I have around 1700 ish hours over 5 years and there’s ppl with 3k in 3 years. I think gavin has a shit ton too

The only cheat I think/know people use is to see other people’s health.
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Re: North American Gold 5v5 League [Season 3][Semi-Finals]
« Reply #1547 on: June 23, 2020, 04:41:29 pm »
does anybody have that admin module thing that allows you to see player names in spectator?
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Re: North American Gold 5v5 League [Season 3][Semi-Finals]
« Reply #1548 on: June 23, 2020, 04:53:58 pm »
does anybody have that admin module thing that allows you to see player names in spectator?
should ask NickyJ or Jetch maybe

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Re: North American Gold 5v5 League [Season 3][Semi-Finals]
« Reply #1549 on: June 23, 2020, 05:23:37 pm »
does anybody have that admin module thing that allows you to see player names in spectator?
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Re: North American Gold 5v5 League [Season 3][Semi-Finals]
« Reply #1550 on: June 23, 2020, 05:56:57 pm »
don’t really think anyone cheats anymore. Those of us who have spread out hours over the years don’t realize how much the grinders on this game play. I have around 1700 ish hours over 5 years and there’s ppl with 3k in 3 years. I think gavin has a shit ton too

The only cheat I think/know people use is to see other people’s health.

I agree with this because people will come up to me who I haven’t seen all round when I have 0 health and try to one punch me when they shouldn’t know my health
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Re: North American Gold 5v5 League [Season 3][Semi-Finals]
« Reply #1551 on: June 23, 2020, 06:23:13 pm »
What’s even wrong with having health hack? One hits are prevalent enough and stab damage inconsistent enough that knowing someone’s health really doesn’t help that much

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Re: North American Gold 5v5 League [Season 3][Semi-Finals]
« Reply #1552 on: June 23, 2020, 07:23:13 pm »
What’s even wrong with having health hack? One hits are prevalent enough and stab damage inconsistent enough that knowing someone’s health really doesn’t help that much

Punch/kick kills mostly. If I know someone is low health I’ll play either really aggressive or really defensive depending on who it is. You can get a glance kill and know to just face hug. Or you can just wait until they slip up and punish them knowing you will one shot them. It also tells you the player names I believe so it can help with callouts of the enemy players. If I knew everyone around me it would make getting first picks much easier tbh.
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Re: North American Gold 5v5 League [Season 3][Semi-Finals]
« Reply #1553 on: June 23, 2020, 07:53:12 pm »
What’s even wrong with having health hack? One hits are prevalent enough and stab damage inconsistent enough that knowing someone’s health really doesn’t help that much

Punch/kick kills mostly. If I know someone is low health I’ll play either really aggressive or really defensive depending on who it is. You can get a glance kill and know to just face hug. Or you can just wait until they slip up and punish them knowing you will one shot them. It also tells you the player names I believe so it can help with callouts of the enemy players. If I knew everyone around me it would make getting first picks much easier tbh.

Pretty much this.

While having something that lets you see people's health is probably not as bad as unblockable/autoblock w/e, having information that no one else has access to, and the game doesn't naturally grant access to is still an unfair advantage.

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Re: North American Gold 5v5 League [Season 3][Semi-Finals]
« Reply #1554 on: June 23, 2020, 08:22:14 pm »
don’t really think anyone cheats anymore. Those of us who have spread out hours over the years don’t realize how much the grinders on this game play. I have around 1700 ish hours over 5 years and there’s ppl with 3k in 3 years. I think gavin has a shit ton too
Cheats are unnatural gameplay. Gavin blocking ability is very, very natural. For instance someone I find unnatural with how they block is Piktonss, going 0-100 in a span of a year, I was on par with thinking he cheated, but in reality he is just a blocking grinder. People still thought Matt cheated a bit back, but now you can see that he is just really good, because he plays a absolute ton. Auto honestly doesn't even separate skill nowadays, people can honestly beat a cheater because of the sheer amount of experience people have gained over the years. Obviously a health hack is different, but def autoblock/chamber, are not as effective. Mainly due to the fact it becoming more about smart decisions, and other parts of your game that make you better besides only your mechanics. Most people can just block just as good as a autoblocker, because they have either played very long to the point where they don't even think when doing it, or they dropped a ton of time into it. It isn't like in FPS games where you legit instant kill people cause of aimbot. Obviously these guys would perform better, but the point I am making is you will know a cheater when you see one. Most of the decision making they make are  not calculated at all, and most high level guys don't need it because it can make their blocking worse.

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Re: North American Gold 5v5 League [Season 3][Semi-Finals]
« Reply #1555 on: June 23, 2020, 08:26:35 pm »
not gonna lie having a minimap is probably better then like autoblock and being able to see health. Just knowing where everyone is a lot better I feel like
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Re: North American Gold 5v5 League [Season 3][Semi-Finals]
« Reply #1556 on: June 23, 2020, 08:51:14 pm »
What’s even wrong with having health hack? One hits are prevalent enough and stab damage inconsistent enough that knowing someone’s health really doesn’t help that much

Punch/kick kills mostly. If I know someone is low health I’ll play either really aggressive or really defensive depending on who it is. You can get a glance kill and know to just face hug. Or you can just wait until they slip up and punish them knowing you will one shot them. It also tells you the player names I believe so it can help with callouts of the enemy players. If I knew everyone around me it would make getting first picks much easier tbh.

Pretty much this.

While having something that lets you see people's health is probably not as bad as unblockable/autoblock w/e, having information that no one else has access to, and the game doesn't naturally grant access to is still an unfair advantage.
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Basically just going to reiterate what has already been said.

Though the ability to see someone's health isn't exceptionally useful in a gf, it becomes extremely pertinent in regards to dueling. The inconsistency inherent to NW's melee damage is the exact reason why such an advantage can have a palpable affect on duels and dueling play-styles. While a legitimate player has little to no reliable method of discerning an opponent's health (beyond analyzing any change in behavior/play-style they exhibit once on low health, which largely relies on repeated experience with said player), someone utilizing health hacks prepossesses knowledge which otherwise requires a significant amount of both experience and awareness. Said knowledge can in turn be utilized to maximize a player's chance of winning a duel by attempting higher probability hit, lower probability damage stabs at close range once their opponent's health is depleted sufficiently. Not to mention the boon to degenerate Turk-kickers.

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Re: North American Gold 5v5 League [Season 3][Semi-Finals]
« Reply #1557 on: June 23, 2020, 09:04:45 pm »
There are many cheaters nowadays and it's truly saddening to see what was once a fun, community based game devoid of trolls and cheaters turn into the cesspool that is 2016+ NW.

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Re: North American Gold 5v5 League [Season 3][Semi-Finals]
« Reply #1558 on: June 23, 2020, 09:12:03 pm »
There are many cheaters nowadays and it's truly saddening to see what was once a fun, community based game devoid of trolls and cheaters turn into the cesspool that is 2016+ NW.

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Re: North American Gold 5v5 League [Season 3][Semi-Finals]
« Reply #1559 on: June 23, 2020, 09:13:07 pm »
There are many cheaters nowadays and it's truly saddening to see what was once a fun, community based game devoid of trolls and cheaters turn into the cesspool that is 2016+ NW.

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