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The General Political Thread
« on: January 29, 2017, 05:40:36 pm »
So, as we already have US Politics and UK Politics threads, and 90% of off-topic activity is on politics anyway, we might as well make this one about the upcoming elections.

March 15 - Dutch General Election. Polling puts Wilders at a win, but followed by current Prime Minister Rutte's (right-wing) Liberals. After that are pretty much all parties polling at anything between 15 to 5 seats, followed by a scatting of new parties wanting to get into parliament. It sure is a mess, and nobody really knows what we'll be waking up to on march the 16th.

April 23 - French Presidentiel Elections. Le Pen. Yeah, this needs no introduction.

11 & 18 June - French parliamentary elections

24 September 2017 - German Federal Elections. To Merkel, or not to Merkel?



I wonder, how many fellow Dutchmen or French and German members of our forum are eligable to vote?



And of course, no political thread is complete without a contest:

One free Custom Title for the period of a week for the non-Dutchman who can accurately guess the number of parties that will be on the Dutch ballot.
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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2017, 06:12:30 pm »
Is Le Pen actually winning in France?
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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2017, 06:30:35 pm »
Le Pen is extremely likely to gain entry into the second round. What happens next is the real question.

From another thread:

What's the main Dutch centre-right party? I assume it's not Wilders.

Now, it's the VVD, commonly known as the Liberals in english texts which is slighty deceiving. They're a centre-right party, which has more progressive wing, but also a good deal of non-religious conservatives. Between 1977 and 2010, the main centre-right was occupied by the CDA, the Christian-Democrats, who have declined into medium-size. They might make a slight gain in the election.

On the centre-left, I'd argue that we might end up with having no main centre-left party after the election.
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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2017, 06:48:36 pm »
Though since CDA abandoned their religious main course, they became centre-left.
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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2017, 06:55:42 pm »
I dont know what i'll be voting, I'd like to see defence getting more funding though.
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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2017, 08:02:00 pm »
You are Dutch, I assume?

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2017, 08:16:08 pm »
Though since CDA abandoned their religious main course, they became centre-left.

They're not centre-left. They've been floating around the economical middle for a while now, but as far as social-cultural items go, they're clearly on the right and Buma (their leader) has been taking them on an economical-right-course as well to prepare for the D66-CDA-VVD coalition we are very likely to get.

I dont know what i'll be voting, I'd like to see defence getting more funding though.

Pretty much everybody agrees on that, though.

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2017, 08:36:26 pm »
Wilders will win the most seats, no chance of becoming PM though. End result most likely a weak, grand coalition of the left and right headed by Rutte. Or maybe he'll resign post-election and allow a new leader/PM to take over to make coalition negotiations easier. Could be another Dutch election later this year if nobody can form a government which seems like a possible outcome too.

Le Pen? Dunno, depends if the French polls are as wrong as the British and American ones. They might well be, so wouldn't want to make a prediction on that.

As for Germany I think it will have to be a grand coalition between the CDU and SPD again. Can't really see many other options due to rise of AfD and Merkel's declining popularity. Still a while to go though.

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2017, 08:41:18 pm »
I don't expect much change in Germany, even with the AfD rising.

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2017, 08:45:49 pm »
You are Dutch, I assume?
Yes :P. All (read: Most) got some valid points. The only politician i somewhat like is Alexander Pechtold.
While writing this i did a test, apparantly D66 and PvdA came up.
I dunno, it feels (and probably is) chosing the lesser evil.

At the end of the day, I'm just a Greenkeeper and they dont have opinions :P
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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2017, 09:27:21 pm »
As long as you do vote.  :P

After all, we even have a party for non-voters this year  ::)

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2017, 04:54:47 am »
Don't we already have a general politics thread?

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2017, 11:20:16 am »
Maybe. It's probably on the 2nd page, or in other words, on the other side of the galaxy.

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2017, 12:45:03 pm »
I think Pim Fortuyn was the best leader the Netherlands never had-great shame he was assassinated he was better than Wilders. If I were Dutch I'd vote for Baudet.

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2017, 01:28:46 pm »
The wave of right-wing populism in the world as of late is absolutely disgusting.