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Offline Zahari

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Cuirassiers
« on: January 12, 2014, 12:37:13 pm »


"After a long year of golden era, the time of the end has come to the heavy cavalry. Event the mightiest, the strongest of them - the cuirassiers couldn't stand the cataclism which the patch was for them. One by one, firstly people, then whole regiments turned their cloacs and joined the hussars. Right now nobody from the elite of cavalry community doesn't even think about creating a heavy cavalry regiment. But, it may sound impossible but we can change it.

What do I want:
  • Little thing that would buff heavy vs other cav, so it'll be playable again

How can we reach it?
Well, i have few ideas, those are:
  • Realism - cuirass invulnerable to melee dmg as a one hitpoint (OMG GTFO FAG)
  • Restoring old heavy horses health
  • Nerfing hussars (OMG GTFO FAG)
  • Other buffs (speed, sword, maneuverable etc

Another thing that bothers me is magical hussar's sabre thrust, which even without bonus from speed is somehow able to kill even a cuirassier from behind. Just sain'
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Re: Cuirassiers
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2014, 12:51:15 pm »
Good idea ;3

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Re: Cuirassiers
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2014, 01:10:09 pm »
+1

Not only cause i'm a cuirassier, but also because i really would like to see some competition between heavy and light cavalry. right now it's one sided...

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Re: Cuirassiers
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2014, 01:16:45 pm »
Good idea  ;)

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Re: Cuirassiers
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2014, 02:14:44 pm »
+1

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Re: Cuirassiers
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2014, 02:50:31 pm »
+1

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Re: Cuirassiers
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2014, 03:09:49 pm »
Good idea ;)
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Re: Cuirassiers
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2014, 03:30:21 pm »
i agree with it

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Re: Cuirassiers
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2014, 03:47:33 pm »
I agree Zahari, +1

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Re: Cuirassiers
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2014, 03:56:21 pm »
Good Idea¡¡ (;

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Re: Cuirassiers
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2014, 03:58:30 pm »
+1 Good idea.

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Re: Cuirassiers
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2014, 04:20:20 pm »
+1

"Their value as a heavy striking force during the Napoleonic Wars ensured that the French, Russian and Prussian armies continued to use cuirassier regiments throughout the 19th century" - wikipedia about cuirassiers. NW heavy cavalry is unable to fulfill this role after the last patch. Heavy horses are ridiculously easy to kill. They are only A BIT stronger that light horses but the light horses are much faster. As you probably know, there were many GOOD heavy regiment before the update. Only 2 good regiments remained (14pk and 1er Carabiniers).

My suggestions:
- heavy horses should have pre-patch stats
- French, Austrian and Russian cuirassiers should have better armor value.
- magical hussar's sabre thrust should be much weaker (maybe reduced speed bonus would help).


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Re: Cuirassiers
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2014, 04:27:31 pm »
+1, i agree.
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Re: Cuirassiers
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2014, 04:32:10 pm »
It is very good idea.I hope there will be more such good ideas. I wish you good luck .

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Re: Cuirassiers
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2014, 05:12:19 pm »
+1 from me as well, even though I don't consider myself a bad player, and usually handle myself adequately on the battlefield, it is noticeable that heavies facing hussars is rather one-sided if both sides have better than average players.

One could always try to beat it via tactics (heavies should stick together, hussars should pick off heavies one by one) etc. But it comes down to the fact that in a non-realistic game, 1 hussar taking out 5+ heavies simply because of his speed and agility, creates far more instability, than having heavy cavalry be stronger in HP and 'reach'. It simply makes sense that heavies are much stronger, as it makes sense for hussars to be more agile. Hussars should beat by numbers, not by evasion and 'skill' of a single member. Thus a nerf/boost would make sense as well.

Thus I concurr with Patrykus' suggestions
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My suggestions:
- heavy horses should have pre-patch stats
- French, Austrian and Russian cuirassiers should have better armor value.
- magical hussar's sabre thrust should be much weaker (maybe reduced speed bonus would help).


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