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Historical Rosters/Documents
« on: December 19, 2013, 05:33:19 pm »
Heyo guys! I was wondering if anyone has any Napoleonic Rosters laying around? Sadly I can't find any Prussian ones since they were all destroyed during WW2. If anyone had access to any, or any other interesting Napoleonic documents, that would be awesome! Thanks everyone. 
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Re: Historical Rosters/Documents
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2013, 12:10:05 am »
What do you mean with rosters?

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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2013, 07:20:08 am »
Sorry, I meant muster rolls.
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Re: Historical Rosters/Documents
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2013, 07:30:00 am »
why exactly do you need them?

try here- http://www.findmypast.com.au/articles/world-records/full-list-of-united-kingdom-records/armed-forces-and-conflict/napoleonic-war-records

it would depend on what sort of muster roll you want.

Regular Infantry, Officers, Militia etc...


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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2013, 12:44:07 pm »
What do you mean with "Muster Roll"?
The Formations or the Rankstructure?

I would help, but I don't know what you exactly wanted to know....
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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2013, 05:18:53 pm »
I don't need them for any particular reason, I would just like to see them. I don't know how to say this any different, a list of the names of men in a regiment, and their ranks. I am looking for absolutely anything, but preferably infantry.
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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2013, 05:26:31 pm »
http://hougoumont.wordpress.com/4-third-foot-guards/

Here's a small example. Jezza/James Grant used to have a thread a few months ago where he provided similar information. I'll see if I can dig it up.

EDIT; Boom.

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=3657.0

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Re: Historical Rosters/Documents
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2013, 05:45:25 pm »
The regimental books of all NL regiments between 1813 and...1840(?) are online.

They aren't simple rosters though. They give all the names and information of all NCO's and enlisten men who signed up. Many men leave the regiments before those got into a fight - Transfers as well as desertion, sometimes as quick as the following day . It's not really you take a quick look at.

Oh, and it's all in Dutch  :P

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Re: Historical Rosters/Documents
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2013, 01:00:49 am »
http://hougoumont.wordpress.com/4-third-foot-guards/

Here's a small example. Jezza/James Grant used to have a thread a few months ago where he provided similar information. I'll see if I can dig it up.

EDIT; Boom.

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=3657.0

This is exactly what I was looking for! Thank you so much!

The regimental books of all NL regiments between 1813 and...1840(?) are online.

They aren't simple rosters though. They give all the names and information of all NCO's and enlisten men who signed up. Many men leave the regiments before those got into a fight - Transfers as well as desertion, sometimes as quick as the following day . It's not really you take a quick look at.

Oh, and it's all in Dutch  :P

That would be helpful... If I could speak Dutch.. :-[
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Re: Historical Rosters/Documents
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2013, 01:13:32 am »
To give you an idea of what it looks like, here's something I copied from it. It's the info of Martinus Fox, a corporal of the 7th battalion of the line who was interestingly enough born in the USA.

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And here's the link to it anyway.

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Re: Historical Rosters/Documents
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2014, 12:04:13 am »
Wonder how that came about.
Of course, I also think lines should be able to move in double rank without having emotional breakdowns.

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Re: Historical Rosters/Documents
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2014, 12:16:18 am »
There's always the possibility he made it all up. It happened. Actually...STORY TIME!

One (Belgian) sergeant-major named De Bruyn took the huge gamble by saying had been no less then a chef D'escadron in a French cavarly regiment, and was therefor given the same rank in the NL army, which meant he became a major (By law, Officers had to be given their old rank or a promotion). For some reason, they didn't find out and nobody ratted him out (or just nobody of his old regiment went to join the Netherlands army, which is more likely).

How did it turn out? Well, he was promoted to full Colonel and given command of the 2nd Carabiniers and served at Waterloo. He and his regiment fought splendidly and the 2nd is still seen as the best cavalry regiment of the NL army, and possibly the best heavy cavalry regiment of the entire campaign, considering the only other heavy cavalry formations were the British Union and Household brigade - and we all know how much they fucked up.

Not sure what happened with De Bruyn after the campaign, but as far as I know he had a good military career. They didn't find out he lied until far into the 20th century.

Edit: And talking about Colonels, I just became one. How appropriate.

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« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2014, 12:36:22 am »
Edit: And talking about Colonels, I just became one. How appropriate.

Cool, for what?

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Re: Historical Rosters/Documents
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2014, 12:40:03 am »
Forum rank, Petschie  ;)

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« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2014, 02:05:19 am »
Oh, right on. ::)